9 3 Lead Arm Only
Improve Your Swing with Lead Arm Focus: 9 to 3 Drill
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Feel how a lead arm dominant swing improves your contact and consistency
- Identify and correct common issues like scooping and losing control with the trail arm
- Practice alternating between lead arm and both arms to solidify your swing fundamentals
In this video, you'll learn a lead arm only drill that emphasizes proper swing mechanics from the 9 to 3 position. This targeted practice helps you gain better control and connection in your swing, especially beneficial for mid to high handicappers.
Tyler Ferrell. Golf Digest Best Teachers in California, 2026-27. The only person named to both Golf Digest's Best Young Teachers in America and Best Golf Fitness Professionals lists. Author of The Stock Tour Swing.
Video Transcript
WEBVTT
1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.250
This drill is lead arm only nine to three. So in the release section, I break
2
00:00:06.250 --> 00:00:07.280
down what each arm
3
00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:12.350
should do and what's going on with the trail as well as the lead. But I find
4
00:00:12.350 --> 00:00:13.200
for a lot of golfers,
5
00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:17.440
especially if you're kind of in that mid-handy cap, maybe even into the upper-
6
00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.280
handy cap. So with a
7
00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.960
five and below, I love working on each hand and making them work perfectly. But
8
00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:25.440
for a lot of
9
00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.260
golfers, just working on that lead hand swinging through, kind of staying
10
00:00:30.260 --> 00:00:31.040
connected,
11
00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:36.320
getting into a good checkpoint on the way through. And then once I've got that
12
00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:37.280
good checkpoint,
13
00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:42.480
putting the right arm on and then just trying to get back there. It forces you
14
00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:43.120
to be a little
15
00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:47.770
bit more lead side dominant, which for many golfers is a good thing. But what
16
00:00:47.770 --> 00:00:49.440
it really helps with is
17
00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:53.380
if you tend to struggle with kind of scooping and breaking down and having no
18
00:00:53.380 --> 00:00:54.080
awareness of what's
19
00:00:54.080 --> 00:00:58.400
going on with the lead side, because the trail side is really overpowering it,
20
00:00:58.400 --> 00:00:59.440
focusing on the lead
21
00:00:59.440 --> 00:01:05.090
arm during release can really be helpful. So you're just going to alternate
22
00:01:05.090 --> 00:01:07.360
hitting shots with just
23
00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:11.920
the lead arm and then hitting shots with both hands on the club. So with the
24
00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:12.800
lead arm only,
25
00:01:12.800 --> 00:01:17.990
I'm hitting a little kind of nine to three, and then I'm going to take my trail
26
00:01:17.990 --> 00:01:19.200
hand and put it on
27
00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.550
and check where that club is. So it shouldn't be way to the left, kind of like
28
00:01:23.550 --> 00:01:25.520
so. There shouldn't
29
00:01:25.520 --> 00:01:31.160
be a whole lot of bend in that arm. So from the face on view, that arm's going
30
00:01:31.160 --> 00:01:32.480
to be pretty straight,
31
00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.960
the club's going to be pointing kind of out towards my left hip, like so. And
32
00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:37.840
the club face will be
33
00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:44.960
pretty close to vertical. So from face or from down the target line, it'll look
34
00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:47.200
kind of like so.
35
00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:51.520
And I'm just working on kind of really being somewhat relaxed and letting it
36
00:01:51.520 --> 00:01:52.320
swing, but making
37
00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:57.330
sure that I make contact with the ground as I do this. A lot of golfers, when
38
00:01:57.330 --> 00:01:58.560
they try to do this
39
00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:03.790
lead arm only, will really try to hold off that face rotation. And allowing
40
00:02:03.790 --> 00:02:05.520
that arm to rotate
41
00:02:05.520 --> 00:02:11.520
is one of the key parameters that I see with pretty much every Tour Pro, where
42
00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:12.640
I rarely see
43
00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:16.580
that with amateurs. They tend to, amateurs tend to want to hold their forms
44
00:02:16.580 --> 00:02:17.600
pretty tight.
45
00:02:17.600 --> 00:02:21.540
You tend to see more of this forearm rotation in Tour Pros with the longer
46
00:02:21.540 --> 00:02:23.120
clubs. So with the driver
47
00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:29.800
or five iron compared to when looking at a short, whether it's eight iron or 50
48
00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:30.960
degree wedge or
49
00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:36.610
something like that. So again, doing just a little kind of nine to three,
50
00:02:36.610 --> 00:02:38.000
focusing on that club
51
00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:43.640
feeling wide. And then putting both hands on the club, either doing kind of an
52
00:02:43.640 --> 00:02:44.480
open hand or just
53
00:02:44.480 --> 00:02:50.320
both hands on the club. And feeling that left arm really lead and rotate
54
00:02:50.320 --> 00:02:53.280
through those shots
55
00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:58.110
will help you work on kind of this flat spot building in the bottom of the
56
00:02:58.110 --> 00:02:58.960
swing. Because if
57
00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:03.750
this arm starts bending and breaking down on the way through, it's very hard to
58
00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:04.720
have the club
59
00:03:04.720 --> 00:03:09.510
continuing kind of down and staying low to the ground. So you're going to tend
60
00:03:09.510 --> 00:03:10.240
to have a smaller
61
00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.330
margin of air, especially with the longer clubs, where you wouldn't want to
62
00:03:13.330 --> 00:03:14.480
have your upper body
63
00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:18.850
shifting on top of the golf ball in order to balance that out. So if you're
64
00:03:18.850 --> 00:03:19.920
struggling with
65
00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:27.390
working on the club between impact and follow through position, try working
66
00:03:27.390 --> 00:03:29.920
some lead arm only
67
00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:35.520
and simplifying it to a kind of a simple one arm feel, where that arm is just
68
00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:37.120
kind of softly
69
00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:42.760
rotating, but staying pretty firm as it's rotating. So the the wrist isn't
70
00:03:42.760 --> 00:03:43.120
really
71
00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.910
breaking down and going this way. It's just kind of gently rotating, then put
72
00:03:47.910 --> 00:03:49.440
the trail harm on.
73
00:03:49.440 --> 00:03:53.360
I promise if you work on that, it'll really help the way that the the club
74
00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:53.920
works and the way that
75
00:03:53.920 --> 00:03:56.640
that your swing will work from impact
76
00:03:56.640 --> 00:03:58.400
to that follow through position.
1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.250
This drill is lead arm only nine to three. So in the release section, I break
2
00:00:06.250 --> 00:00:07.280
down what each arm
3
00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:12.350
should do and what's going on with the trail as well as the lead. But I find
4
00:00:12.350 --> 00:00:13.200
for a lot of golfers,
5
00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:17.440
especially if you're kind of in that mid-handy cap, maybe even into the upper-
6
00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.280
handy cap. So with a
7
00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.960
five and below, I love working on each hand and making them work perfectly. But
8
00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:25.440
for a lot of
9
00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.260
golfers, just working on that lead hand swinging through, kind of staying
10
00:00:30.260 --> 00:00:31.040
connected,
11
00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:36.320
getting into a good checkpoint on the way through. And then once I've got that
12
00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:37.280
good checkpoint,
13
00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:42.480
putting the right arm on and then just trying to get back there. It forces you
14
00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:43.120
to be a little
15
00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:47.770
bit more lead side dominant, which for many golfers is a good thing. But what
16
00:00:47.770 --> 00:00:49.440
it really helps with is
17
00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:53.380
if you tend to struggle with kind of scooping and breaking down and having no
18
00:00:53.380 --> 00:00:54.080
awareness of what's
19
00:00:54.080 --> 00:00:58.400
going on with the lead side, because the trail side is really overpowering it,
20
00:00:58.400 --> 00:00:59.440
focusing on the lead
21
00:00:59.440 --> 00:01:05.090
arm during release can really be helpful. So you're just going to alternate
22
00:01:05.090 --> 00:01:07.360
hitting shots with just
23
00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:11.920
the lead arm and then hitting shots with both hands on the club. So with the
24
00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:12.800
lead arm only,
25
00:01:12.800 --> 00:01:17.990
I'm hitting a little kind of nine to three, and then I'm going to take my trail
26
00:01:17.990 --> 00:01:19.200
hand and put it on
27
00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.550
and check where that club is. So it shouldn't be way to the left, kind of like
28
00:01:23.550 --> 00:01:25.520
so. There shouldn't
29
00:01:25.520 --> 00:01:31.160
be a whole lot of bend in that arm. So from the face on view, that arm's going
30
00:01:31.160 --> 00:01:32.480
to be pretty straight,
31
00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.960
the club's going to be pointing kind of out towards my left hip, like so. And
32
00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:37.840
the club face will be
33
00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:44.960
pretty close to vertical. So from face or from down the target line, it'll look
34
00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:47.200
kind of like so.
35
00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:51.520
And I'm just working on kind of really being somewhat relaxed and letting it
36
00:01:51.520 --> 00:01:52.320
swing, but making
37
00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:57.330
sure that I make contact with the ground as I do this. A lot of golfers, when
38
00:01:57.330 --> 00:01:58.560
they try to do this
39
00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:03.790
lead arm only, will really try to hold off that face rotation. And allowing
40
00:02:03.790 --> 00:02:05.520
that arm to rotate
41
00:02:05.520 --> 00:02:11.520
is one of the key parameters that I see with pretty much every Tour Pro, where
42
00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:12.640
I rarely see
43
00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:16.580
that with amateurs. They tend to, amateurs tend to want to hold their forms
44
00:02:16.580 --> 00:02:17.600
pretty tight.
45
00:02:17.600 --> 00:02:21.540
You tend to see more of this forearm rotation in Tour Pros with the longer
46
00:02:21.540 --> 00:02:23.120
clubs. So with the driver
47
00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:29.800
or five iron compared to when looking at a short, whether it's eight iron or 50
48
00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:30.960
degree wedge or
49
00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:36.610
something like that. So again, doing just a little kind of nine to three,
50
00:02:36.610 --> 00:02:38.000
focusing on that club
51
00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:43.640
feeling wide. And then putting both hands on the club, either doing kind of an
52
00:02:43.640 --> 00:02:44.480
open hand or just
53
00:02:44.480 --> 00:02:50.320
both hands on the club. And feeling that left arm really lead and rotate
54
00:02:50.320 --> 00:02:53.280
through those shots
55
00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:58.110
will help you work on kind of this flat spot building in the bottom of the
56
00:02:58.110 --> 00:02:58.960
swing. Because if
57
00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:03.750
this arm starts bending and breaking down on the way through, it's very hard to
58
00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:04.720
have the club
59
00:03:04.720 --> 00:03:09.510
continuing kind of down and staying low to the ground. So you're going to tend
60
00:03:09.510 --> 00:03:10.240
to have a smaller
61
00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.330
margin of air, especially with the longer clubs, where you wouldn't want to
62
00:03:13.330 --> 00:03:14.480
have your upper body
63
00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:18.850
shifting on top of the golf ball in order to balance that out. So if you're
64
00:03:18.850 --> 00:03:19.920
struggling with
65
00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:27.390
working on the club between impact and follow through position, try working
66
00:03:27.390 --> 00:03:29.920
some lead arm only
67
00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:35.520
and simplifying it to a kind of a simple one arm feel, where that arm is just
68
00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:37.120
kind of softly
69
00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:42.760
rotating, but staying pretty firm as it's rotating. So the the wrist isn't
70
00:03:42.760 --> 00:03:43.120
really
71
00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.910
breaking down and going this way. It's just kind of gently rotating, then put
72
00:03:47.910 --> 00:03:49.440
the trail harm on.
73
00:03:49.440 --> 00:03:53.360
I promise if you work on that, it'll really help the way that the the club
74
00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:53.920
works and the way that
75
00:03:53.920 --> 00:03:56.640
that your swing will work from impact
76
00:03:56.640 --> 00:03:58.400
to that follow through position.
Tyler Ferrell. Golf Digest Best Teachers in California, 2026-27. The only person named to both Golf Digest's Best Young Teachers in America and Best Golf Fitness Professionals lists. Author of The Stock Tour Swing.
9 3 Lead Arm Only
Improve Your Swing with Lead Arm Focus: 9 to 3 Drill
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Feel how a lead arm dominant swing improves your contact and consistency
- Identify and correct common issues like scooping and losing control with the trail arm
- Practice alternating between lead arm and both arms to solidify your swing fundamentals
In this video, you'll learn a lead arm only drill that emphasizes proper swing mechanics from the 9 to 3 position. This targeted practice helps you gain better control and connection in your swing, especially beneficial for mid to high handicappers.
Video Transcript
WEBVTT
1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.250
This drill is lead arm only nine to three. So in the release section, I break
2
00:00:06.250 --> 00:00:07.280
down what each arm
3
00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:12.350
should do and what's going on with the trail as well as the lead. But I find
4
00:00:12.350 --> 00:00:13.200
for a lot of golfers,
5
00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:17.440
especially if you're kind of in that mid-handy cap, maybe even into the upper-
6
00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.280
handy cap. So with a
7
00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.960
five and below, I love working on each hand and making them work perfectly. But
8
00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:25.440
for a lot of
9
00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.260
golfers, just working on that lead hand swinging through, kind of staying
10
00:00:30.260 --> 00:00:31.040
connected,
11
00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:36.320
getting into a good checkpoint on the way through. And then once I've got that
12
00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:37.280
good checkpoint,
13
00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:42.480
putting the right arm on and then just trying to get back there. It forces you
14
00:00:42.480 --> 00:00:43.120
to be a little
15
00:00:43.120 --> 00:00:47.770
bit more lead side dominant, which for many golfers is a good thing. But what
16
00:00:47.770 --> 00:00:49.440
it really helps with is
17
00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:53.380
if you tend to struggle with kind of scooping and breaking down and having no
18
00:00:53.380 --> 00:00:54.080
awareness of what's
19
00:00:54.080 --> 00:00:58.400
going on with the lead side, because the trail side is really overpowering it,
20
00:00:58.400 --> 00:00:59.440
focusing on the lead
21
00:00:59.440 --> 00:01:05.090
arm during release can really be helpful. So you're just going to alternate
22
00:01:05.090 --> 00:01:07.360
hitting shots with just
23
00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:11.920
the lead arm and then hitting shots with both hands on the club. So with the
24
00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:12.800
lead arm only,
25
00:01:12.800 --> 00:01:17.990
I'm hitting a little kind of nine to three, and then I'm going to take my trail
26
00:01:17.990 --> 00:01:19.200
hand and put it on
27
00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:23.550
and check where that club is. So it shouldn't be way to the left, kind of like
28
00:01:23.550 --> 00:01:25.520
so. There shouldn't
29
00:01:25.520 --> 00:01:31.160
be a whole lot of bend in that arm. So from the face on view, that arm's going
30
00:01:31.160 --> 00:01:32.480
to be pretty straight,
31
00:01:32.480 --> 00:01:36.960
the club's going to be pointing kind of out towards my left hip, like so. And
32
00:01:36.960 --> 00:01:37.840
the club face will be
33
00:01:37.840 --> 00:01:44.960
pretty close to vertical. So from face or from down the target line, it'll look
34
00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:47.200
kind of like so.
35
00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:51.520
And I'm just working on kind of really being somewhat relaxed and letting it
36
00:01:51.520 --> 00:01:52.320
swing, but making
37
00:01:52.320 --> 00:01:57.330
sure that I make contact with the ground as I do this. A lot of golfers, when
38
00:01:57.330 --> 00:01:58.560
they try to do this
39
00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:03.790
lead arm only, will really try to hold off that face rotation. And allowing
40
00:02:03.790 --> 00:02:05.520
that arm to rotate
41
00:02:05.520 --> 00:02:11.520
is one of the key parameters that I see with pretty much every Tour Pro, where
42
00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:12.640
I rarely see
43
00:02:12.640 --> 00:02:16.580
that with amateurs. They tend to, amateurs tend to want to hold their forms
44
00:02:16.580 --> 00:02:17.600
pretty tight.
45
00:02:17.600 --> 00:02:21.540
You tend to see more of this forearm rotation in Tour Pros with the longer
46
00:02:21.540 --> 00:02:23.120
clubs. So with the driver
47
00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:29.800
or five iron compared to when looking at a short, whether it's eight iron or 50
48
00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:30.960
degree wedge or
49
00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:36.610
something like that. So again, doing just a little kind of nine to three,
50
00:02:36.610 --> 00:02:38.000
focusing on that club
51
00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:43.640
feeling wide. And then putting both hands on the club, either doing kind of an
52
00:02:43.640 --> 00:02:44.480
open hand or just
53
00:02:44.480 --> 00:02:50.320
both hands on the club. And feeling that left arm really lead and rotate
54
00:02:50.320 --> 00:02:53.280
through those shots
55
00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:58.110
will help you work on kind of this flat spot building in the bottom of the
56
00:02:58.110 --> 00:02:58.960
swing. Because if
57
00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:03.750
this arm starts bending and breaking down on the way through, it's very hard to
58
00:03:03.750 --> 00:03:04.720
have the club
59
00:03:04.720 --> 00:03:09.510
continuing kind of down and staying low to the ground. So you're going to tend
60
00:03:09.510 --> 00:03:10.240
to have a smaller
61
00:03:10.240 --> 00:03:13.330
margin of air, especially with the longer clubs, where you wouldn't want to
62
00:03:13.330 --> 00:03:14.480
have your upper body
63
00:03:14.480 --> 00:03:18.850
shifting on top of the golf ball in order to balance that out. So if you're
64
00:03:18.850 --> 00:03:19.920
struggling with
65
00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:27.390
working on the club between impact and follow through position, try working
66
00:03:27.390 --> 00:03:29.920
some lead arm only
67
00:03:29.920 --> 00:03:35.520
and simplifying it to a kind of a simple one arm feel, where that arm is just
68
00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:37.120
kind of softly
69
00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:42.760
rotating, but staying pretty firm as it's rotating. So the the wrist isn't
70
00:03:42.760 --> 00:03:43.120
really
71
00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.910
breaking down and going this way. It's just kind of gently rotating, then put
72
00:03:47.910 --> 00:03:49.440
the trail harm on.
73
00:03:49.440 --> 00:03:53.360
I promise if you work on that, it'll really help the way that the the club
74
00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:53.920
works and the way that
75
00:03:53.920 --> 00:03:56.640
that your swing will work from impact
76
00:03:56.640 --> 00:03:58.400
to that follow through position.
1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.250
This drill is lead arm only nine to three. So in the release section, I break
2
00:00:06.250 --> 00:00:07.280
down what each arm
3
00:00:07.280 --> 00:00:12.350
should do and what's going on with the trail as well as the lead. But I find
4
00:00:12.350 --> 00:00:13.200
for a lot of golfers,
5
00:00:13.200 --> 00:00:17.440
especially if you're kind of in that mid-handy cap, maybe even into the upper-
6
00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:19.280
handy cap. So with a
7
00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:24.960
five and below, I love working on each hand and making them work perfectly. But
8
00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:25.440
for a lot of
9
00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.260
golfers, just working on that lead hand swinging through, kind of staying
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connected,
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getting into a good checkpoint on the way through. And then once I've got that
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good checkpoint,
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putting the right arm on and then just trying to get back there. It forces you
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to be a little
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bit more lead side dominant, which for many golfers is a good thing. But what
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it really helps with is
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if you tend to struggle with kind of scooping and breaking down and having no
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awareness of what's
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going on with the lead side, because the trail side is really overpowering it,
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focusing on the lead
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arm during release can really be helpful. So you're just going to alternate
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hitting shots with just
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the lead arm and then hitting shots with both hands on the club. So with the
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lead arm only,
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I'm hitting a little kind of nine to three, and then I'm going to take my trail
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hand and put it on
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and check where that club is. So it shouldn't be way to the left, kind of like
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so. There shouldn't
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be a whole lot of bend in that arm. So from the face on view, that arm's going
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to be pretty straight,
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the club's going to be pointing kind of out towards my left hip, like so. And
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the club face will be
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pretty close to vertical. So from face or from down the target line, it'll look
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kind of like so.
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And I'm just working on kind of really being somewhat relaxed and letting it
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swing, but making
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sure that I make contact with the ground as I do this. A lot of golfers, when
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they try to do this
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lead arm only, will really try to hold off that face rotation. And allowing
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that arm to rotate
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is one of the key parameters that I see with pretty much every Tour Pro, where
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I rarely see
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that with amateurs. They tend to, amateurs tend to want to hold their forms
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pretty tight.
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You tend to see more of this forearm rotation in Tour Pros with the longer
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clubs. So with the driver
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or five iron compared to when looking at a short, whether it's eight iron or 50
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degree wedge or
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something like that. So again, doing just a little kind of nine to three,
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focusing on that club
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feeling wide. And then putting both hands on the club, either doing kind of an
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open hand or just
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both hands on the club. And feeling that left arm really lead and rotate
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through those shots
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will help you work on kind of this flat spot building in the bottom of the
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swing. Because if
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this arm starts bending and breaking down on the way through, it's very hard to
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have the club
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continuing kind of down and staying low to the ground. So you're going to tend
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to have a smaller
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margin of air, especially with the longer clubs, where you wouldn't want to
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have your upper body
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shifting on top of the golf ball in order to balance that out. So if you're
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struggling with
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working on the club between impact and follow through position, try working
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some lead arm only
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and simplifying it to a kind of a simple one arm feel, where that arm is just
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kind of softly
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rotating, but staying pretty firm as it's rotating. So the the wrist isn't
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really
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breaking down and going this way. It's just kind of gently rotating, then put
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the trail harm on.
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I promise if you work on that, it'll really help the way that the the club
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works and the way that
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that your swing will work from impact
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to that follow through position.
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