Return of Heel Contact

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Return of Heel Contact  

  By: Gabriel M on June 11, 2025, 7:59 p.m.

I had a problem with heel contact when I was working on my in to out which originally lead me to this site, but the turtle shell helped me immensely to the point where I get almost too much toe contact.

I've made great progress on my wipe while swinging through the ball and have been hitting the best looking draws of my life for a while. While working on my follow through I came to the conclusion I am too much arms and not enough body. As soon as I try to use my chest and body more through the swing I have been getting nasty hozel shots again, while also having low point issues resulting in bad chunks way behind the ball. I also remember hitting heel/hozel shots after reading James Sieckmann's book when trying to flight the ball with more chest rotation and less hips for approach shots. Similarly after watching the finesse wedge videos that showed up again on me.

I know I have good supination and release mechanics and I am not throwing the club out/tumbling or leaning towards my ball in the downswing. My theory is my timing is off incorporating my body, and that maybe I need to unhinge sooner and also have body extension sooner. When I tried that I didn't get the hozel shanks but I did get heel shots far from the middle of the face. I'm also getting nasty hooks when I do get clean contact, but I know that's just because I was probably mechanically rotating the face through impact compensating for not using my body and now that I am using my body I need to be more passive holding my motorcycle through impact.

Tyler, just wondering since you are a seasoned coach, if hozel/heel shots are a common swing fault that comes with using more body through the swing, and if so what exactly is happening so I can fix.

Thanks for all your support on this site, you've answered all my questions in the comments and message boards. I have been accelerating my swing development so much on here and my knowledge of the swing is so deep I can easily diagnose or fix most of my problems on my own, it's an amazing feeling and fun to play golf with a bit more confidence on what's going on and how it all works.

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Re: Return of Heel Contact  

  By: Gabriel M on June 13, 2025, 8:04 a.m.

I think I figured it out playing yesterday. The cue to use the chest for me creates a lunge with my upper body which gives me an OOT type of swing, and especially when trying to swing in-to-out it creates a heel/shank. I need to use the body and chest to move through the swing but keep in mind rotating around the spine like a windmill for a proper body pivot.

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Re: Return of Heel Contact  

  By: Tyler F on June 22, 2025, 9:44 a.m.

Hi Gabriel,

Glad you were able to figure it out. As a little layer of detail, the shank is RARELY caused by a pure swing direction issue. Many golfers have really high numbers for their path (either hook or slice) but rarely slice it. The bigger issue is usually moving the center of the body down and/or toward the golf ball. I could see how trying to use your upper body might encourage a lunge into the ball and more of a heel miss. I usually use the turtle shell move, or a hoola hoop to help coordinate the body movement so it's not moving into the ball.

If the shanks are gone, is the hook now the biggest miss?

Happy Golfing,
Tyler

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Re: Return of Heel Contact  

  By: Gabriel M on June 22, 2025, 11:56 a.m.

Turns out it wasn't so much the body pivot, it was a need for more right side bend, but not at my hips, more in my upper body/spine. Happens more on wedges when I am not doing the hip bump/jackson 5. Using a pic of Viktor Hovland which demonstrates the changes I needed, I guess I sometimes, unbeknownst to myself, switch to a more erect posture which causes random heel/hozel shots for me.

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Re: Return of Heel Contact  

  By: Tyler F on June 29, 2025, 10:05 a.m.

Glad you figured it out. It's really just semantics, but generally, the body pivot refers to the movement of the body. The angles the body moves on. The timing of it's motions and activations. The stiffness or fluidity of it. All different components. So I'd say that the angle of the body is components of the body pivot, and a really common source of the heel/hosel.

Happy Golfing,
Tyler

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