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Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on Feb. 9, 2025, 2:12 p.m.

Ok! I’ve tracked the sensation that leads to the super left ball to my left upper arm/shoulder complex, and I see that I could use some more UD, but my anatomical eyes aren’t keen enough to narrow it down any further. May I borrow yours? I have it side by side with an ideal shot(for me) for comparison. Side note: this was one of only two significant left misses off the tee today.
I included a F/O from my warmup with a F/O from the course; the were both good although the course was a slight overdraw.

I included the short approach shot just because I was super proud of the progress I’ve made on those. I hit 9 greens today, a PR for sure, on the way to 79.

Thank you Tyler!

Zach

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Tyler F on Feb. 10, 2025, 1:15 p.m.

In old school language, it looks like you got a little quick on the left driver shot.

The hands get a little more out early, the body stands up causing a swallowing late and the club path is more in to out with a faster closing club face. It's a little hard to compare the clips because of the frame rate, but hopefully you can see it in the screenshots.

The short approach looked really good, swing is definitely trending. Keep it up.
Tyler

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on Feb. 11, 2025, 10:59 a.m.

Thanks so much man!!!

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on Feb. 20, 2025, 1:39 p.m.

Traveled back to the handcuff release video. It’s moderately terrifying for me, but the only way to get this look of structure. I think this is the look of structure?

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on Feb. 21, 2025, 7:42 a.m.

Through some combination of bracing and core engagement, I’m finding that I can release the absolute bonkers out of it with my forearms and my wiffles aren’t going left. Well, they are, but gently. I’ll be able to report more after my Sunday round but I’m highly encouraged. 🙂🤞

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on Feb. 23, 2025, 12:26 p.m.

Hit 12 greens today. 12! Although, I did manage to make two doubles and shoot 79. But 12 greens!!
Range vs course here… I think trail side bend is the next item to be addressed(head on pillow), as well as easing up on my lateral move in the downswing, but holy smokes I’m excited!

Thank you Tyler!!

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on Feb. 24, 2025, 6:14 a.m.

Mornin Tyler!

One more question and then I’ll stop bugging you on this particular thread, because you wouldn’t have put all the work in that you did for players to consult you about the minutiae of their swing journeys- that’s the whole point of GSA, correct?
I’m really pumped though, and can’t wait to play again. 12 greens!

Ok the question is- I was looking at course vs range, and I see that that left ball goes with floppy disconnected arms. Is the point of the whole bracing system kind of a check and balance against the desire of the forearms to collapse into an ultra-closed spot? Like, the body stays hard so the arms can stay soft?

On the range, that left scap bracing key works like a charm no matter how hard I rotate the face. The course was a different story, but I got it ironed out after a rocky start.

As always, thank you!!
Your duffer,

Zach

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Tyler F on March 2, 2025, 12:51 p.m.

Hi Zach,

I wish I had the time to call each student every day and help talk through their thoughts, but it just isn't feasible. Also, I want my players to own their swings, makes them more resilient if something happens in the middle of a round. So feel free to keep posting when you need some help, just understand it's not always immediate and timely :)

Congrats on the 12 greens! Now we are getting into fun/boring golf territory!

I'm okay with that description of body stable/hard so arms can be more soft. Ideally, I think of it as more of a continuous chain with somewhat even tension. I think in the stall flip pattern, a golfer has tension in the legs and tension in the arms, but at least one gap in the middle. So the upper and lower have to be timed rather than working together. But yes, for you, floppy disconnected arms would typically cause more of a left miss. What can happen with the lead scap bracing is that on the course it starts turning into more of a slide/tilt which "feels" similar to the scap bracing. I have a video coming out soon on the lead hip bracing that I think will be helpful for you. Even in the picture you posted with this comment, the hip is a little too far past the ankle and could cause the stall flip. Stay tuned for the lead hip bracing video!

Congrats again!

Happy Golfing,
Tyler

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on March 6, 2025, 7:38 a.m.

Thanks so much! I don’t begrudge you a little wait time in between replies; to the contrary, I’m humbled by the amount of time you do manage to carve out for us duffers.
And, the farther I get into this, the crazier it strikes me. There are things that feel like other things but are wildly different looks and then things that feel wildly different and look almost the same.
In prep for your video I’m cuing on Wilco Nienaber’s rotation, mostly because he has cartoonishly long legs that are super easy for me to visualize. You’re absolutely right about the contact problems I encountered, and the cure for me seems to be a combination of the “shaft spinning” release and lead arm high.

Thank you so much for taking the time! It’s silly season with music for me so I don’t get to play much golf this time of year, but I look forward to the next time I do.

Yours,
Zach

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Tyler F on March 16, 2025, 8:32 a.m.

Yes, I haven't filmed it yet, but I've outlined a video addressing that phenomenon. I phrase it, "some things feel dramatic and look subtle, other things look subtle but feel dramatic".

Lead arm high is another way of feeling ulnar deviation. It's a common feel I hear from good players as their are working through improving the flat spot. I think because for so long, a high shaft was discouraged and the "proper feel" was swing low and left.

Your release is looking a lot better. I can't say I love the trail leg squating move in the beach video. But the follow through is looking much more stable.

Happy Golfing,
Tyler

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on March 14, 2025, 3:42 p.m.

Here’s one more in the wild, 80%ish. Seems to me the release is cleaner and pivot more centered- imma keep chugging this direction!

Z

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Zach F on March 27, 2025, 5:56 a.m.

Tyler,

Your language about the chain with fairly even tension throughout really stuck with me. I’m doing my best to navigate this on my own, but this is one where I feel like you might just be able to eyeball the video and tell immediately where my chain breaks down. I haven’t been able to pinpoint it, but it’s the spot where my chain always breaks down; I don’t think there’s another place where I lose linkage. I feel like it’s in my right side; logically it would be the oblique crunch, but focusing on the oblique seems to be hit and miss as a solution. Whatever the difference is between these two moves though, that’s the ticket. Hopefully you can also see I’ve also been working on lead hip bracing; that video was magical, and managed to put specifics on a vaguery, which you are so very good at.

As always, thank you Tyler!
Hope you’re well
And I found a spatula

Z

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Re: Need your eyes please  

  By: Tyler F on April 6, 2025, 8:28 p.m.

Glad that hip bracing idea is translating well. It's been a helpful breakthrough for me as a coach, but I never know if it's going to work in the do-it-yourself video translation or not.

But yes, the swing looks cleaner through the ball with the better hip bracing. Also, to use their obliques really well, the pelvis needs to provide a stable anchor. That's part of the role of the hip bracing.

Happy golfing,
Tyler

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