Tactile Coaching Foundations Lecture - Part 2

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So, most of you have followed the website and kind of know some of my

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philosophy.

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I think the simple approach is our whole goal is to play better, right?

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But in order to play better, we really have to focus on the other two with our

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students,

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which is the better light.

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Okay. We have to focus on the diagnosing and training aspect.

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So that we can actually change how we're playing, right?

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Play is like the barometer.

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So, you can get better by just playing, but if we can become a little bit more

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precise

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with our diagnosis and a little bit more specific with our training,

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then my experience and my hope is for your students that you'll be able to play

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better faster.

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Okay. So I always broke it down to the three big questions of what do you want

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the club to do?

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Because ultimately, it's the club that hits the ball.

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How can the body do it?

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And then either how do you train it or how is the mind going to control the

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body?

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What are thoughts that might work for adjusting how the body's moving?

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So I use this slide in a lot of presentations just as kind of the big buckets

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of,

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you could become an expert and have a great career if you focused on any one of

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those.

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You have the sports psychologist and you have the, like, the strategist,

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like a decade system, things like that, right?

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So you could just focus on the brain.

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You could just focus on the body and do a lot of drills, kind of like I do.

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Or you could be more of a body worker, work more on the fitness side.

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And you could, a lot of people focus on just the club hitting the ball,

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either the clubfitters or people who teach primarily off of launch monitor and

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track man.

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So there's ways to improve, which is great.

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But it also can lead you wondering, well, where should I start with each

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student?

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Should I just talk about the club?

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Should I talk about the body?

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How do I actually want to, like, design this plan?

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And that's where I always felt that my background in fitness kind of gave me

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a little bit of an advantage of, like, well, when you're designing an exercise

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plan,

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you want to start with, what's the ultimate exercise plan I want this person to

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get to?

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Like, I want them to do, like, Olympic cleans.

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But they're, they have terrible posture and, like, a weak core.

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So I can't start them there.

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What's, like, a breadcrumb?

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What's a series of exercises I can do to get them to where I want them to go?

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And that's kind of how I approach looking at the golf swing.

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Crawling?

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Crawling?

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Before walking, before running, before, yeah.

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Exactly.

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So looking at each of those perspectives,

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let's first start with, like, well, what could be measured, right?

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So with the club, the ball, we can measure a lot of things with the launch

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monitor,

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with the body movement.

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We have 3D and force plates, Pierre was talking about.

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As far as I don't know that much about the brain measurements other than FMRI

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studies.

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But I haven't, that's not something that I stay active with.

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So that's why there's a big question mark there.

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There's probably some stuff, or if not, it's coming.

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OK, so launch monitor goals.

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You'll hear a lot of different kind of ranges and windows.

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But I think most instructors who use a lot of launch monitors would agree that

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of the big parameters, like, you could specialize in optimizing landing angle.

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But that's probably, like, further down the list.

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That's probably not going to do a whole lot for most of your students, right?

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I think the bigger fish are looking at swing paths, swing directions, swing

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plane,

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club face angle, both direction as well as dynamic loft, contact location, ball

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speed,

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low point.

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Those are kind of big, kind of some of the big buckets or big categories that

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your students

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might struggle with, right?

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They either have a major path issue, a major face issue, a major low point

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issue.

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And you can use the launch monitor to help guide that.

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OK, and that can set us up for what do we want to do body-wise.

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And we said there's two big technologies.

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You have the force plates as well as the 3D.

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Now, I wouldn't consider myself a force plate expert.

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I'm aware of it.

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We just got a system, and I'm still having it installed, so I haven't actually

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had anyone

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on it yet.

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But we got the Fenris.

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So I'm--

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Motion to Coach.

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Yeah, Motion to Coach.

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They have AMTI plates, and I'm a big believer in Johnson-Claire.

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He's one of the more critical thinkers, and he's involved with it, so I'm

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hoping that

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I can help kind of influence how they progress.

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But the plates are versatile.

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They could be used with other systems as well.

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So it's more the cameras and the AI 3D that I'll be hoping to influence.

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Yes.

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So now, I have attended Dr. Kwan's class, and I had to talk with Mike Duffy.

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There's definitely some force plate patterns, but if you just ask them, what's

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the ultimate

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goal of force plate-- what are the two or three things that I should be looking

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for?

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Everybody has, I would say, a really definitive-- if you get this, you will

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improve your golf

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game.

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You might say, hey, if you change this pattern, you'll improve your speed.

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You could eliminate some early extension, but it can't quite be tied to contact

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ball flight the way the launch monitor stuff can.

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There's a level in between, because it's very far away from where the club and

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the golf

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ball is.

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But I'll be excited to play around with it.

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It can be used for two big purposes, so you can either use it for evaluating a

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swing,

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how are they doing it, and does it match what they're overall movement pattern?

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Or you can use it as a training device of, hey, how can you increase the

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vertical pressure

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under the lead foot?

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How can you get your pressure shifting faster into the trail foot, whatever?

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You can use it for calibrating fields as well.

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The three big categories I'd say most would agree with is there does appear to

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be some

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type of kinetic sequence that typically you're going to want to see the linear

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force followed

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by the rotational force, and then lastly, the vertical force during the release

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That'll match up with a lot of what we're going to talk about and see as far as

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the body

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movements that I've seen on 3D.

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But the big warning that Mike Duffy gave was like, yeah, that's a great

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sequence, but

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the timing can vary so much that it's almost like you can't coach just the one

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pattern.

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For some, that lateral movement might start halfway in the backswing, and for

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others,

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it might start at the top of the swing, and that could be, they could both be

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doing it

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right.

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Oh, did we get there?

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Oh, okay.

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The other one that seems very clear.

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Welcome.

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Hi.

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There you go.

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Wait.

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No problem.

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You're not mind it.

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Lawrence will get you signed in.

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We're just going through some of the theory.

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We're trying to take on how many -- not launch monitors, but like systems to

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help, so the

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fourth place, you have a fourth box they have track range, so like how many is

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too many

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to incorporate without using the computer, right?

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Like, if all they're to help us.

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Correct.

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But then we're going to just say, okay, we're going to take it easy and use all

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numbers.

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Yes.

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So are there ones in New York to be better to use for a different system level

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or --

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I primarily -- I'll be curious to see how much I used -- how much I showed the

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plate and the data to the student.

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In one sense, having it all up there, like, they don't know where to look, so

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they're

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just going to focus on what you're saying, where if you only have one thing,

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like, you

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know, I'll -- I have track man running kind of on at all times, and I have one

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who I have to shut it off because the only thing he's going to look at is angle

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of attack,

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and he's going to turn it into a chicken wing contest to pull down to increase

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his angle

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of attack every single time.

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And so we've talked multiple lessons about how to increase angle of attack by

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using the

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body better, but he'll get overly focused on that number where when he's making

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of the body progress, the technology now becomes, like, a limiting factor or a

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limiter.

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So I'd probably say one or two.

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I think if you had, like, I think if you had force plates in 3D and, like, I

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don't know,

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some type of biofeedback for, like, your, you know, like, focus band or

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that, I think all of that would be complicated, but I think focusing on one or

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two at maximum

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is probably as much as I would do.

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But part of this class, I'm going to teach you, like, I don't do a whole lot of

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3D anymore.

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I used it a lot when I was trying to learn what to do.

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And now that I kind of know what to look for, I can get, I think, some faster

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improvement

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just because I know what to look for, and I'm going to put you through a drill.

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I know what change probably would have happened.

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I don't know to the exact degree, since I'm not really measuring anymore, but I

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know what

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probably would have changed.

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And so that's the whole purpose of this first presentation is, like, what are

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we trying

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to change?

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>> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> Yeah.

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>> Yes.

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>> Yes.

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I still like it.

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Don't get me wrong.

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I love to be, because, you know, but I'm going to show you, like, one of the

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slides and

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one of the, like, one of the potential, we've got the World Golf Fitness Summit

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coming

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back.

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And one presentation idea I'm, I'm toying around with is, like, well, what does

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3D miss?

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Like, what are the things that aren't seen on 3D that I think are really

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important?

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I think there's a lot that is on 3D that's really important.

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>> What?

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>> Um.

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>> Tension in muscles.

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>> Okay.

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It's like two slides away.

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What else do you think?

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>> Tension in muscles.

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What else gets missed on 3D?

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>> What's firing?

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>> Mm.

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I mean, yes, but what else gets missed on 3D?

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Any, any body parts get missed?

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Nobody talks about shoulder blades.

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>> Right?

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>> Right?

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Because they're, they're very hard to measure.

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I think AI has the best chance of being able to, like, measure them or

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calculate what

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they're doing.

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>> Right.

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>> And the spine.

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You get very global, like, the, the spine is measured at the top and the bottom

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like, like some of the details of, like, what the middle of the spine is doing

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are, like,

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totally lost.

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>> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> The ribcage sway.

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>> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> Yeah, I had a, we had a video on that, too.

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>> And that.

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>> On Instagram.

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Um, now just, I'll, um, I'm, I'm fine with the term.

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It's technically lumbar translation.

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It's not really what the ribs are doing, but ribcage sway seems like it's going

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to stick.

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>> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> Oh, we're going to talk about it.

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>> [INAUDIBLE]

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>> Yeah, it, the.

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>> So the, the big difference is when you go into side bend, the, the facet

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joints lock,

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like they engage is what they call it.

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When you go into translation, as long as you don't go into end range, they're

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still free.

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So when you go into side bend first, then they've engaged, now they turn as one

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unit.

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When you go into translation first, they can still turn independently.

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But that's not part of force play.

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That's more of, um, yeah, I mean, so, like I was, I was down in West Palm Beach

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last week,

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sitting with an 80 year old who flew me out because he, he's just a golf nut.

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And we were working, he was loving translation, like that was his big key.

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So you joke, but it, um, and you know, whether or not he knows the extent of

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that term, doesn't

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really matter.

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Like that was his term for what he needed to do.

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Yeah, that feel, um, and I'm not sure how he would have got there with just a

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motor learning,

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or with a thought of external cue, right?

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Um, okay.

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So we had the connect sequence, the lead leg timing, um, and then, uh, so the,

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the lead

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peak force does have a very strong connection to club head speed.

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Um, so the, the force being, uh, right around when lead arm is parallel and

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then the torque

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being more when the shaft is vertical, um, like the more that you can put into

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the system

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at that point, um, there's a strong correlation to club head speed.

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Um, now the question becomes a little, you know, how do you do it?

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Right?

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How do you put more force into the ground?

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Do you just tell someone like push harder?

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Um, I don't think that's enough.

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So we'll, we'll, we'll talk about how, um, movements of the spine and positions

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the body

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can influence that.

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Um, can you just spend a minute talking about those terms on lead, lead leg

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peak force and

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work time and just, as a sort of background platform?

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Um, yeah, I can.

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It'll, um, I'll, I'll give it like a real quick, um, just because I started,

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this is

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not my area of expertise and it's not, and it's also not the main focus.

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But I also, if you're going to have a, a doubt about it, let's, let's get that

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clear.

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Um, so basically, um, so we'll use the simple analogy of, do you know the

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difference between

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force and torque?

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Okay, so if I'm holding on to this, we'll say the center of mass is right here

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in the

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center.

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If I push it through the center of mass, this is going to move linearly, that

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was a force.

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If I push outside of where the center of mass is, it's going to twist and that

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's now

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a torque.

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Um, so it's, it's basically the direction that the energy is moving into the,

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into the

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object, um, compared to where the center of mass is.

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Um, so there's the, like, the linear push of the, the foot and then there's

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compared

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to where your center of mass is, there's like a distance between where, where

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that is.

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Um, and the greater the distance combined with how much you push will create

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more of

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a greater torque.

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And that frontal plane torque has a strong correlation to called that speed.

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Yeah, moment or, uh, so the, the torque is, man, you're taking me back to like

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college

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physics, but, uh, the moment arm is one of the components for calculating the

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torque.

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I'll leave that to like Duffy and Kwan and the guys who know those formulas

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inside and

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out.

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Um, I'm more of a practical, um, application guy.

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Uh, and then the other one is an early shift in the backswing.

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Um, an early shift to the right creates more momentum that you can then engage

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your muscles

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against.

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So it, uh, it, it also has a correlation to club head speed, probably not quite

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as strong

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as the lead leg timing, but, um, like, if you wanted somebody to swing like

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Kyle Berkshire

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or, you know, Joe Miller, like in the 140s, it would be really hard to do that

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without

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having a big pressure shift right early.

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Okay.

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We'll move on because there are, there are literally seminars you could take

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just on

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the force plate stuff.

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And I don't want to bastardize those since that's not my area of expertise.

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Okay.

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Uh, so now 3D graphs, I feel like I can talk with almost anybody about at least

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the AMM

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ones.

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Um, if we were going to boil down 3D like I wanted to do with force plate, I

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would say

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the big topics would basically be everything you're trying to look at is things

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that are

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related to the kinematic sequence, uh, things that are related to arc width and

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things

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that are related to axial velocity.

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So kinematic sequence is looking at the rotational speeds at different parts of

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your body.

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Um, essentially the, the classic model is from the ground up looking at pelvic

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speed,

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uh, ribcate or torso rotation, lead arm and then club.

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Um, and there's kind of this tour pattern that, uh, TPI and Greg Rose and Phil

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Tietam and

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before that Chris Welsh and, uh, there have been lots of people who've said

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that this

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is kind of the signature of consistent ball striking.

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Um, the one I really keyed in on was arc width, which I hadn't heard people

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talk about previously,

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but that was looking at the space between the mid-hands point on the grip and

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the sternum.

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And basically, um, the timing of when that was reaching its widest point, um, I

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think

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that has a strong connection with, uh, some of the research on the flat spot

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and creating

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more of a gradual change to the club down to the bottom when it's moving fast

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and when

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we're making contact, I think that gives you a little bit more margin of air.

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So for me, that was always the, the highest predictor of, of consistency.

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The people who had the, the arc width graph, um, that was kind of lengthening

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through impact

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tended to complain about consistency less.

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Yes.

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Yes, Tom.

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[inaudible]

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Yes.

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[inaudible]

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We're going to boil that down to, but yes, we're going to boil that down to two

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big variables

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for most people.

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Um, but, but yes, uh, I actually think the kinematic sequence, um, like more of

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the reason to get

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into that body position is to help create that flatter bottom of the swing and,

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and have

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more precision with arc width rather than speed.

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I've actually seen a lot of long drive guys have more of a stacked sequence and

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not like

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the, the peaking order that, um, they, you know, some of the researchers might

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say is

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ideal.

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Um, I think the classic kinematic sequence is more about like consistency, um,

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and that

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axial velocity is looking at, uh, club face rate of closure essentially, but

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looking at

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the twist of the club that yeah, uh, so it, well it's measuring the sensors on

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the shaft.

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So it's measuring the shaft, but there's like a 90, it's like 98 or 99%

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correlation

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between what the face is doing and what the shaft is doing.

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Um, so I presented with Phil, uh, when he did his dissertation where he was

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basically saying

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axial velocity doesn't matter for consistency.

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Um, and my take on that was essentially yeah, but, um, like if you're, I

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thought one of the

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big, uh, one of the big issues with it was, um, I, I still think that axial

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velocity has

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a strong connection to consistency based on what I saw with amateurs.

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If you were to, if you were to like the problem with, uh, the problem I saw

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with Phil's, and

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you can tell him trying to be careful in how I say it because it was, you know,

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his dissertation

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and, um, the data was very good, but it was all based on tour pros.

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So imagine if I was saying that body fat percentage of Olympians doesn't really

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matter.

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So therefore for average people like it doesn't really matter what your, uh,

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body fat percentages.

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And I included my, um, my data, uh, so when I took a bunch of amateurs, over 75

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% of his

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database was in the low handle twist velocity category, but when he took his

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population

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of just tour pros, he was able to break it up into one third, one third, one

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third.

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So there were more people in his higher category of handle twist, but by a, a

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global picture,

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even the people in the high were like relatively low.

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So, um, you know, whether or not, uh, it's, it's enough that if you just gave

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me a, now

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I do believe what he said, um, I don't, with all of this stuff, with all of the

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data stuff,

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um, all the 3D, all the force plates, the, the thing I keep hearing over and

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over again

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is don't obsess over the number.

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It's more about looking at the pattern.

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And that's where I did really like 3D because you could see the whole swing at

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once.

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Um, and so the pattern of the axial velocity is probably more important than

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the actual

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number.

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Um, but I do think the number could still be important, or you know, that's why

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, like

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sports box, I only look at it so much because it doesn't show the, like the

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motion of it

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kind of graph.

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And just, yeah.

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It does numbers and you get it in the back way on that.

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So.

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Yeah.

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Like, you know, I look at it real quickly, maybe to see, you know, turn numbers

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, sway

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numbers.

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I keep asking them when the graphs come up.

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And they always felt like, uh, the only people who wanted the graphs were us.

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Yeah.

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Like the average person just wants a number.

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Um, so.

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Yeah.

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I'll be, I'll be curious.

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We can ask Phil.

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He's gonna be here.

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Um, okay.

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So this is my, like what's missing from the data with launch monitors.

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If I give you all the launch monitor data, can you tell me if it was a good

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shot or not?

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Or can you tell me if this person has a tendency to fat or thin shots?

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Well, you know, you can't see tendencies.

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I mean, you could see off of a, you know, centerness of contact, um, a little

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bit, right?

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You know, centeredness contact, it's, um, you know, the launch conditions are

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good, stuff

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like that.

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A low point is good, uh, a smash factor.

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Now low point is the interesting one because I've been asking for low point

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depth, right?

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So you could have low point location, but if the low point depth is too great,

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you'd

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still hit it fat, right?

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Would you look at very little strike location?

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Well you could, but that is also influenced by dynamic loft and like how they

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're controlling

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the club face.

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So you could probably get to a certain place, but I think that, I think that

517
00:23:04.400 --> 00:23:06.400
there are missing

518
00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:11.640
parameters that would help make it, like, more of what we're looking for.

519
00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:15.310
I think low point depth is a big one, which you could kind of somewhat reverse

520
00:23:15.310 --> 00:23:15.880
engineer

521
00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:17.800
by location of height.

522
00:23:17.800 --> 00:23:22.510
Um, but I also think rate of change of the parameters, like instead of just

523
00:23:22.510 --> 00:23:23.280
giving me,

524
00:23:23.280 --> 00:23:27.550
like where they were right there, well, somebody who's changing those numbers

525
00:23:27.550 --> 00:23:28.400
much quicker

526
00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:32.240
is going to tend to be less consistent than somebody who is changing those

527
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:33.040
numbers more

528
00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:34.040
gradually.

529
00:23:34.040 --> 00:23:40.540
Yeah, that's kind of part of the whole flat spot philosophy, and a big part of

530
00:23:40.540 --> 00:23:41.040
what I've

531
00:23:41.040 --> 00:23:43.920
put in the stock tour swing book.

532
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:48.530
And then, so that leads you into like, well, what's their club face control

533
00:23:48.530 --> 00:23:48.800
here?

534
00:23:48.800 --> 00:23:50.360
What's their club face control here?

535
00:23:50.360 --> 00:23:51.800
What's the path?

536
00:23:51.800 --> 00:23:56.510
You get a little bit with kind of swing direction, but you can't tell me like,

537
00:23:56.510 --> 00:23:57.480
is this person

538
00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:04.400
at this point, like, lining up for poor angle of attack?

539
00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.940
But that would be very useful if we were looking at the entire club over a

540
00:24:07.940 --> 00:24:09.120
bigger window instead

541
00:24:09.120 --> 00:24:12.920
of just the moment of contact.

542
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:18.000
And with the 3D and the force blade, we already talked about muscle engagement,

543
00:24:18.000 --> 00:24:19.280
fascia tension.

544
00:24:19.280 --> 00:24:23.120
You can't see how the foot is working, um, because it's within the shoe, so

545
00:24:23.120 --> 00:24:23.760
that's kind

546
00:24:23.760 --> 00:24:29.120
of a tricky one, can't see shoulder blade motion, you can't see spine details.

547
00:24:29.120 --> 00:24:34.660
Those are some pretty big movement factors, right?

548
00:24:34.660 --> 00:24:39.360
So that's part of why I wanted to put this class together, um, is that we're

549
00:24:39.360 --> 00:24:39.840
gonna talk

550
00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:43.920
more about these movements that I think create the graphs that we want, create

551
00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:44.440
the force

552
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:48.050
blade patterns that we want rather than just like, you know, I sat in classes

553
00:24:48.050 --> 00:24:48.520
where it

554
00:24:48.520 --> 00:24:52.160
was like, hey, you just need to get more, more vertical pressure.

555
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:54.200
How do I do it?

556
00:24:54.200 --> 00:24:56.680
Just try and push harder.

557
00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:03.200
The best I heard, um, uh, when I went out to Denmark this past year, I was

558
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:04.240
meeting with

559
00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:07.430
a coach and he was talking about a force blade guy who had come out and

560
00:25:07.430 --> 00:25:07.800
measured all the

561
00:25:07.800 --> 00:25:11.220
students and he would just basically, like, if they needed to do it more, he

562
00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:13.800
said it louder

563
00:25:13.800 --> 00:25:19.120
instead of saying it differently, um, so, and who knows about the mind, that'll

564
00:25:19.120 --> 00:25:20.440
be fun.

565
00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:22.380
I don't.

566
00:25:22.380 --> 00:25:27.200
Okay, so quick review of where I think we are right now.

567
00:25:27.200 --> 00:25:33.040
So club hits the ball, um, we talked about contact and ball flight.

568
00:25:33.040 --> 00:25:36.800
Those are our, like, the whole reason we're looking at it is to improve contact

569
00:25:36.800 --> 00:25:37.120
and to

570
00:25:37.120 --> 00:25:38.720
improve ball flight.

571
00:25:38.720 --> 00:25:43.910
Um, as far as ball flight direction, I think these are pretty, um, universally

572
00:25:43.910 --> 00:25:44.960
understood.

573
00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:49.670
You have, uh, the club face and the club path as the two big variables and that

574
00:25:49.670 --> 00:25:50.120
creates

575
00:25:50.120 --> 00:25:54.820
a face to path relationship, um, the ball is roughly going to start closer to

576
00:25:54.820 --> 00:25:55.080
where the

577
00:25:55.080 --> 00:25:59.240
club face is, um, and then it's going to curve based on the face to path

578
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:00.440
relationship.

579
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:04.400
Um, now you can also see centeredness of contact and compression.

580
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:08.050
You could tell that this one because the face is closed, um, you're going to

581
00:26:08.050 --> 00:26:08.800
hit it higher

582
00:26:08.800 --> 00:26:11.880
up on the face and you're going to get a little bit more compression where this

583
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:12.040
one where

584
00:26:12.040 --> 00:26:15.460
the face is open, you're going to hit it lower on the face and you're going to

585
00:26:15.460 --> 00:26:16.200
get more spin

586
00:26:16.200 --> 00:26:20.640
but less compression.

587
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:27.610
For contact, you have the 3D path of the club, so the swing direction combined

588
00:26:27.610 --> 00:26:28.440
with the low

589
00:26:28.440 --> 00:26:33.170
point, combined with the height, and then you also have the spin loft or that

590
00:26:33.170 --> 00:26:34.080
compression

591
00:26:34.080 --> 00:26:39.480
kind of that club face, uh, the loft compared to angle of the attack.

592
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:46.800
Okay, with the body swings the club, this is where I think we are.

593
00:26:46.800 --> 00:26:50.560
We've got kind of basic anatomy, we've got our common graphs for the 3D

594
00:26:50.560 --> 00:26:51.560
movement patterns

595
00:26:51.560 --> 00:26:55.070
and then we've got the advanced anatomy which is what I continually try to

596
00:26:55.070 --> 00:26:55.760
study because

597
00:26:55.760 --> 00:26:59.520
it's very advanced and I don't think there are that many people who have it

598
00:26:59.520 --> 00:27:00.360
totally figured

599
00:27:00.360 --> 00:27:01.360
out.

600
00:27:01.360 --> 00:27:05.390
Um, because this is what I'm calling basic anatomy which is basically like we

601
00:27:05.390 --> 00:27:06.000
have these

602
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:10.910
joints that have these capabilities of movement, um, the joints are surrounded

603
00:27:10.910 --> 00:27:11.760
by fascia and

604
00:27:11.760 --> 00:27:17.790
those are moved by muscles, um, and if you just understand kind of the big, the

605
00:27:17.790 --> 00:27:18.640
big muscles

606
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:23.340
and how they, how they work, you can have a rough sense of how the person is

607
00:27:23.340 --> 00:27:23.760
moving.

608
00:27:23.760 --> 00:27:27.920
We'll come to the advanced anatomy in a second.

609
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:31.370
The 3D graphs, uh, typically you have your kinematic sequence, I think, ark

610
00:27:31.370 --> 00:27:32.040
with an axial

611
00:27:32.040 --> 00:27:37.120
velocity are really good but they're not always, uh, commonly presented.

612
00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:41.070
The ones that are commonly presented are typically like your sways, your lifts,

613
00:27:41.070 --> 00:27:41.680
your thrust,

614
00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.440
so your linear movements as well as your rotational movements of the body, um,

615
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.040
and then the lead

616
00:27:47.040 --> 00:27:53.210
wrist, sometimes trail wrist, uh, but you could also, we, we do get 3D of the,

617
00:27:53.210 --> 00:27:54.200
the elbows

618
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.690
and the shoulders, the shoulders are a little messy but, um, the big ones you

619
00:27:57.690 --> 00:27:58.280
'll see are

620
00:27:58.280 --> 00:28:02.120
typically the, the thorax and the pelvis and the ones that I put in the, uh,

621
00:28:02.120 --> 00:28:02.720
like level

622
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:08.020
2 class, um, and I forget who's gone through all the, all the content that I

623
00:28:08.020 --> 00:28:08.840
have out on

624
00:28:08.840 --> 00:28:13.420
the website but, um, as part of the level 2, I just go through like the basics

625
00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:13.880
of these

626
00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:17.680
graphs so that you feel really comfortable, um, interpreting it.

627
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:23.670
But, um, we're going to go into a much deeper understanding of how to apply

628
00:28:23.670 --> 00:28:24.720
them in this

629
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.120
class today.

630
00:28:26.120 --> 00:28:33.100
Okay, the advanced anatomy, let's see, can anyone identify what the middle

631
00:28:33.100 --> 00:28:36.720
structure is?

632
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:42.280
The knee.

633
00:28:42.280 --> 00:28:44.320
Back in the knee.

634
00:28:44.320 --> 00:28:49.910
So, what I would say is advanced anatomy is kind of not just understanding

635
00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:50.640
there's a

636
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:55.720
joint there but how does that joint relate to all the other joints?

637
00:28:55.720 --> 00:29:00.420
And that's where you do get into this kind of like spiderweb matrix of how

638
00:29:00.420 --> 00:29:00.800
everything

639
00:29:00.800 --> 00:29:05.500
is connected, um, but that gets us into when Logan was talking about lines of

640
00:29:05.500 --> 00:29:05.920
tension.

641
00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.810
Well, the lines of tension go through these connection points or these

642
00:29:09.810 --> 00:29:11.080
connection systems,

643
00:29:11.080 --> 00:29:16.750
the fascia, um, and so, uh, I don't think you have to know this to be a good

644
00:29:16.750 --> 00:29:17.440
golf coach

645
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:22.300
but when you get into, um, this actually would have been the perfect and not

646
00:29:22.300 --> 00:29:23.080
prepared to

647
00:29:23.080 --> 00:29:28.470
show a case study that's on my phone but to all describe it, um, but when you

648
00:29:28.470 --> 00:29:29.440
understand

649
00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:33.880
it it allows you to problem solve some of your trickier cases.

650
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:38.150
I think just knowing the basics and if you just master the drills and the hands

651
00:29:38.150 --> 00:29:38.720
on stuff

652
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:42.210
we're going to cover you're going to be able to like wow the majority of your

653
00:29:42.210 --> 00:29:42.920
students.

654
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:47.900
I had a student who has, um, he's had some really bad low point kind of like

655
00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:48.640
shifts way

656
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:53.550
off the ball and kind of like hangs back, um, he's a good player though, um,

657
00:29:53.550 --> 00:29:54.200
played in

658
00:29:54.200 --> 00:29:57.620
college and just kind of like got stiffer and got more and more off the ball

659
00:29:57.620 --> 00:29:58.200
and like,

660
00:29:58.200 --> 00:30:03.040
you know, we've all got that guy who was a great ball striker and then kind of

661
00:30:03.040 --> 00:30:03.600
worked

662
00:30:03.600 --> 00:30:06.960
in way, worked his way into a pretty deep funk.

663
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.980
Um, so we were working on trying to get a little bit more, uh, spine extension

664
00:30:10.980 --> 00:30:11.320
or what's

665
00:30:11.320 --> 00:30:16.880
called negative torsion in the backswing and, um, I'll have to, I'll have to

666
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:17.720
pull it up

667
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:23.020
and I'll show you in, in the morning or after lunch, um, but basically we were

668
00:30:23.020 --> 00:30:23.680
trying to

669
00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:29.560
work on getting some extension and his normal swing, um, you look at his face

670
00:30:29.560 --> 00:30:30.560
and nothing

671
00:30:30.560 --> 00:30:31.560
happens.

672
00:30:31.560 --> 00:30:35.110
Now I'm trying to get him to go into extension and as he's getting set up right

673
00:30:35.110 --> 00:30:35.640
before he

674
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:40.630
pulls the trigger, his eyebrows shoot up, he goes like this right before every

675
00:30:40.630 --> 00:30:41.080
swing

676
00:30:41.080 --> 00:30:45.150
when we're trying to get extension and I'm just standing there like do I even

677
00:30:45.150 --> 00:30:45.680
tell him

678
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:49.930
about this because I remember, I remember back in, uh, college when a

679
00:30:49.930 --> 00:30:51.040
girlfriend told

680
00:30:51.040 --> 00:30:53.780
me I had like angry eyes when I was trying to hit the golf ball and it messed

681
00:30:53.780 --> 00:30:54.120
me up for

682
00:30:54.120 --> 00:30:55.680
like a month, right?

683
00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:00.490
So what do I make this guy where he's already, um, so I let him know because I

684
00:31:00.490 --> 00:31:01.320
wanted him

685
00:31:01.320 --> 00:31:06.610
to talk to his trainer of the basically he's trying to use like the farthest

686
00:31:06.610 --> 00:31:07.320
end of the

687
00:31:07.320 --> 00:31:12.020
extension chain so instead of getting the extension happening in this area of

688
00:31:12.020 --> 00:31:13.360
the body, he's trying

689
00:31:13.360 --> 00:31:18.040
to start the movement with his face, with his frontalis muscle.

690
00:31:18.040 --> 00:31:24.620
Um, so that's where if you understand it, then you'll kind of, it'll make sense

691
00:31:24.620 --> 00:31:25.040
and

692
00:31:25.040 --> 00:31:28.230
you'll know what, where to look and what to look for or why some of these

693
00:31:28.230 --> 00:31:28.720
little curve

694
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:34.200
walls might throw like come at you, um, but I'm, I'm confident that not many

695
00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:35.640
other instructors

696
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:40.350
would have queued in on that as even a thing to look at, but he was just

697
00:31:40.350 --> 00:31:41.320
getting set up

698
00:31:41.320 --> 00:31:43.040
and then his eyes would get really big.

699
00:31:43.040 --> 00:31:46.680
He hit it better, so I was okay with it.

700
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:51.680
Um, but by understanding some of the back of the knee or, you know, it was

701
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.080
before, I

702
00:31:53.080 --> 00:31:56.280
will never say the swing is solved.

703
00:31:56.280 --> 00:32:01.000
I think that's a dangerous, it got, it moved things in the right direction.

704
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:02.000
Yeah.

705
00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:05.980
As one of my, I commonly tell people like, if you think you're going to get to

706
00:32:05.980 --> 00:32:06.480
a point

707
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:10.840
where your swing is done, then you pick the wrong game.

708
00:32:10.840 --> 00:32:15.030
Um, what's better is if I said you're going to show up tomorrow and I'm going

709
00:32:15.030 --> 00:32:15.560
to roll

710
00:32:15.560 --> 00:32:19.200
a dice and you're going to have this miss, but you know how to fix it.

711
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.830
So when you're getting warmed up, you can kind of like dial in and find the

712
00:32:21.830 --> 00:32:22.160
swing for

713
00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:23.320
that day.

714
00:32:23.320 --> 00:32:28.910
Um, I had, so when I was down in Florida, I had dinner with, um, the, the 80

715
00:32:28.910 --> 00:32:29.640
year old

716
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.740
guy had played on tour and his son was like one of the top collegiate golfers

717
00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:33.920
played

718
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:37.110
on tour for a little while and we were having dinner and he was saying like,

719
00:32:37.110 --> 00:32:37.920
yeah, you know,

720
00:32:37.920 --> 00:32:41.190
some days you're, you're warming up and you got every shot and you can't wait

721
00:32:41.190 --> 00:32:41.640
and there's

722
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.720
other days you got no shots and there's some, some days where, you know, the

723
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:46.400
club feels

724
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:51.110
really heavy or light or, you know, I feel quick or slow, like it changes every

725
00:32:51.110 --> 00:32:51.640
day.

726
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.600
That's the fun part.

727
00:32:54.600 --> 00:33:01.080
And he was a really good ball striker, so I tend to listen to those guys.

728
00:33:01.080 --> 00:33:04.270
The people who wanted to be more of like, I just get it and it's the same

729
00:33:04.270 --> 00:33:04.880
feeling every

730
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:05.880
time.

731
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:09.640
I, I often talk and you've heard me in videos, I talk about not chasing

732
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:10.680
feelings because

733
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:12.800
those will change, right?

734
00:33:12.800 --> 00:33:16.260
That's, that's, there's probably a brain component that I don't totally

735
00:33:16.260 --> 00:33:17.600
understand, but especially

736
00:33:17.600 --> 00:33:21.720
the fascia, like that's going to change.

737
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:22.720
Okay.

738
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:23.720
Yeah.

739
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:26.120
That's going to change from like, morning to evening.

740
00:33:26.120 --> 00:33:27.120
Yes.

741
00:33:27.120 --> 00:33:32.040
Just based on, you know, the interest in your body, you're warming up, your

742
00:33:32.040 --> 00:33:34.200
muscles, blood

743
00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:35.200
flow.

744
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:36.200
Yeah.

745
00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:38.810
I did a case study in, in one of the online coaches where I had a guy getting

746
00:33:38.810 --> 00:33:39.040
ready for

747
00:33:39.040 --> 00:33:42.850
a tournament, so I saw him Friday night, Saturday morning, or Saturday

748
00:33:42.850 --> 00:33:43.680
afternoon.

749
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:49.040
So I'm, so I'm three times in a 24 hour period and I showed how like his swing

750
00:33:49.040 --> 00:33:49.880
changed each

751
00:33:49.880 --> 00:33:50.880
time.

752
00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:55.850
Um, I know like, I have one of those delicious watches and, you know, it can

753
00:33:55.850 --> 00:33:56.960
change because

754
00:33:56.960 --> 00:34:01.160
I have it in centimeters, like just the length of your back swing, you know,

755
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:02.080
throughout the

756
00:34:02.080 --> 00:34:06.220
day can change, you know, three, four, five centimeters, which may not seem a

757
00:34:06.220 --> 00:34:07.040
lot, but

758
00:34:07.040 --> 00:34:08.040
it's a lot.

759
00:34:08.040 --> 00:34:09.040
It's, it's enough.

760
00:34:09.040 --> 00:34:10.040
Yeah.

761
00:34:10.040 --> 00:34:11.040
Yeah.

762
00:34:11.040 --> 00:34:12.040
Absolutely.

763
00:34:12.040 --> 00:34:13.040
Yeah.

764
00:34:13.040 --> 00:34:14.040
And you said not chasing feelings.

765
00:34:14.040 --> 00:34:15.600
What would you say is a better reference?

766
00:34:15.600 --> 00:34:19.640
Um, so either outcomes or positions as benchmarks.

767
00:34:19.640 --> 00:34:24.720
So I think it's important to have a feel library or a feel database.

768
00:34:24.720 --> 00:34:28.980
Um, so I remember, uh, Pia and Lynn talking about how they wanted you to have

769
00:34:28.980 --> 00:34:29.720
five feels

770
00:34:29.720 --> 00:34:32.240
for each of your major keys.

771
00:34:32.240 --> 00:34:36.920
So like, and that's what I mean by it's not just, I'm, yes, you're going to

772
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:37.360
play based

773
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.170
on some feels or feelings, but, um, those are not going to be the same every

774
00:34:42.170 --> 00:34:42.720
single

775
00:34:42.720 --> 00:34:43.720
day.

776
00:34:43.720 --> 00:34:48.040
So you have to be willing to like try something new.

777
00:34:48.040 --> 00:34:49.040
Yeah.

778
00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:50.040
Yeah.

779
00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:55.000
You should have five feelings based on your each key.

780
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.400
Jack Nicholas said most tour golfers have three to five keys.

781
00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:59.400
Yeah.

782
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.680
On the upper end.

783
00:35:01.680 --> 00:35:02.680
Yeah.

784
00:35:02.680 --> 00:35:07.000
And you just need to zero in on the, the one that'll be the best for that day.

785
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:12.200
Um, I, the, I mean, you've played where you'll have a field that lasts for a

786
00:35:12.200 --> 00:35:13.900
couple rounds

787
00:35:13.900 --> 00:35:15.760
of a month.

788
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:16.760
Three holes.

789
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:17.760
Yeah.

790
00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:18.760
Exactly.

791
00:35:18.760 --> 00:35:19.760
That's going.

792
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:20.760
Yeah.

793
00:35:20.760 --> 00:35:25.480
Um, so if you did go down the, the mind route, I just wanted to add a little

794
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:26.440
bit again.

795
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:31.760
This is not the main focus or my area of expertise, um, but this is where the,

796
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:32.280
the,

797
00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:36.680
um, internal versus external focus is where I put that bullet.

798
00:35:36.680 --> 00:35:40.660
Um, so, uh, he was asking about my opinion on it, um, because you've been

799
00:35:40.660 --> 00:35:41.440
studying it

800
00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:42.440
pretty good.

801
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:54.980
Like, so I'm going to be, um, on Tuesday, I'm speaking on a panel at the open

802
00:35:54.980 --> 00:35:55.560
forum and

803
00:35:55.560 --> 00:36:00.600
the, the title of the panel is like, um, how do you fix somebody who's had a

804
00:36:00.600 --> 00:36:01.640
long standing

805
00:36:01.640 --> 00:36:02.640
swing issue?

806
00:36:02.640 --> 00:36:03.640
Right?

807
00:36:03.640 --> 00:36:06.830
Like how do you fix someone who's had a bad, a bad swing for some time and

808
00:36:06.830 --> 00:36:07.320
there's some

809
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.020
people who are in the, the motor learning side and then there is, uh, me and I

810
00:36:12.020 --> 00:36:12.120
think

811
00:36:12.120 --> 00:36:17.400
Brian Manzala on more of the, no, you've got to like, you got to change it.

812
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:21.560
Um, and you're going to use internal cues or internal feelings.

813
00:36:21.560 --> 00:36:28.880
Um, so, uh, I'm supposed to put together a little like teaser, uh, presentation

814
00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:30.200
beforehand,

815
00:36:30.200 --> 00:36:31.200
so I haven't done that yet.

816
00:36:31.200 --> 00:36:37.370
So this will be like, there's almost like the, the drive run, um, but my big

817
00:36:37.370 --> 00:36:38.320
take on it is

818
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.480
essentially if you look at a lot of the research and you've, you've looked at

819
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:42.040
some of the studies,

820
00:36:42.040 --> 00:36:43.040
right?

821
00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:44.040
Looking.

822
00:36:44.040 --> 00:36:52.600
Um, they usually, oh, he's smart, um, they're usually very short term.

823
00:36:52.600 --> 00:36:59.040
They're usually like one small skill, like I'm, I'm, I would love to see, uh,

824
00:36:59.040 --> 00:37:00.760
that's

825
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:01.760
the classic one.

826
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:02.760
Yeah.

827
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:05.480
Into like off of a mat into a target.

828
00:37:05.480 --> 00:37:11.760
Um, and so you can kind of get into like, is it performance versus learning?

829
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:16.470
Um, like there are, like, I would love to see a study where they looked at

830
00:37:16.470 --> 00:37:17.480
strokes gained

831
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:22.180
on different categories and they had one person do nothing but external for a

832
00:37:22.180 --> 00:37:22.400
season

833
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.920
and another person do nothing but internal.

834
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:30.280
Now one of the challenges I think is, um, in the, the normal, like the basic ch

835
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:31.640
ipping one,

836
00:37:31.640 --> 00:37:36.350
they'll say like, um, the one group is going to focus on the club moving like a

837
00:37:36.350 --> 00:37:37.160
pendulum.

838
00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:41.170
So it's kind of like this external visual and the other is going to focus on

839
00:37:41.170 --> 00:37:41.840
like the right

840
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:43.440
arm, something like that.

841
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:45.440
Is that the one you saw or?

842
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:46.440
Yeah.

843
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:47.440
Yeah.

844
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.440
And then suddenly with a club.

845
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:51.440
Okay.

846
00:37:51.440 --> 00:38:02.200
So this is where like, um, I would look at those and say there's two big

847
00:38:02.200 --> 00:38:04.160
questions.

848
00:38:04.160 --> 00:38:06.200
One, do they need to work on their right arm?

849
00:38:06.200 --> 00:38:11.510
Like, is that a helpful thought or is that just like, is an internal extension

850
00:38:11.510 --> 00:38:12.600
of the

851
00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:14.200
right hand and come like in a good impact?

852
00:38:14.200 --> 00:38:15.200
Yeah.

853
00:38:15.200 --> 00:38:16.200
But do they need that?

854
00:38:16.200 --> 00:38:17.200
Exactly.

855
00:38:17.200 --> 00:38:23.840
And the other question is like, do you are, I believe that some people are more

856
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:25.080
feel capable

857
00:38:25.080 --> 00:38:26.080
than others.

858
00:38:26.080 --> 00:38:29.270
Do you like, there are some people who I'm going to give more external cues

859
00:38:29.270 --> 00:38:30.040
because when

860
00:38:30.040 --> 00:38:34.120
I ask them to, to move their arm, like, you know, they, they do something else.

861
00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:35.120
Right?

862
00:38:35.120 --> 00:38:36.320
We've, we've seen that.

863
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.200
So like, are we, are we classifying these people?

864
00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:40.920
Are we evaluating them?

865
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:45.630
And then lastly, if you ask me to think about like the club head, I would

866
00:38:45.630 --> 00:38:46.520
probably start

867
00:38:46.520 --> 00:38:49.960
the club head moving and I would feel something in my body and I would shift

868
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:50.680
the focusing

869
00:38:50.680 --> 00:38:54.040
there and then I would have to go back to thinking about the club head.

870
00:38:54.040 --> 00:38:56.760
So my question would be, what does that get coded as?

871
00:38:56.760 --> 00:39:01.880
Was that an internal or an external feel?

872
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.910
And so that's where like, uh, the swing is long enough where I think you could

873
00:39:05.910 --> 00:39:06.960
have like

874
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:09.440
the, the focus go back and forth.

875
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:13.200
And I just don't think that there's enough specificity in terms of like

876
00:39:13.200 --> 00:39:14.320
actually measuring

877
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:15.800
that they actually did it.

878
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:20.560
Like, I told you to focus on the club or you really had no feel of your body.

879
00:39:20.560 --> 00:39:24.440
The example I give is, um, well, just let me finish this off.

880
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:28.680
In terms of terminology, internal versus external just to, just to play.

881
00:39:28.680 --> 00:39:32.120
Internal would essentially be like feeling like a joint position or like muscle

882
00:39:32.120 --> 00:39:32.600
tension.

883
00:39:32.600 --> 00:39:37.300
So something within my body and external would be typically, um, feeling the

884
00:39:37.300 --> 00:39:38.360
club or, or,

885
00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:40.720
um, something outside of my body.

886
00:39:40.720 --> 00:39:45.000
Uh, so one of the classic ways that they'll explain is an internal would be, I

887
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:45.440
want to

888
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.840
feel my leg push into the ground.

889
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:54.640
And then external would be like, I want to feel my shoe push into the ground.

890
00:39:54.640 --> 00:39:58.420
It's like a separate, you know, I'm going a different level and creating some

891
00:39:58.420 --> 00:39:59.600
space between

892
00:39:59.600 --> 00:40:03.000
like where I am and what's actually moving.

893
00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:04.000
Yeah.

894
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:05.000
Yeah.

895
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.000
Yeah.

896
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:12.970
I, I, I tried to avoid using some of those terms in my manual, but, um, pro, uh

897
00:40:12.970 --> 00:40:13.680
, like

898
00:40:13.680 --> 00:40:17.180
a proximal feel would be something like closer to the center of the body where

899
00:40:17.180 --> 00:40:17.920
a distal feel

900
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.280
would be like more further away.

901
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:24.460
Um, so in the external, it would be like a proximal feel might be the grip and

902
00:40:24.460 --> 00:40:25.060
a distal

903
00:40:25.060 --> 00:40:30.560
feel might, or a focus might be like the target way out there.

904
00:40:30.560 --> 00:40:31.560
Yeah.

905
00:40:31.560 --> 00:40:32.560
And they'll.

906
00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:34.960
The internal is, is your body is feeling correct.

907
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:39.660
And most of the research when they do those simple, those simple studies points

908
00:40:39.660 --> 00:40:40.760
that, um,

909
00:40:40.760 --> 00:40:45.730
simple external is better for performance or like they'll typically have them

910
00:40:45.730 --> 00:40:46.400
do a task

911
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:51.320
and then retest it that week and they'll, they'll show that they did better if

912
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:51.720
they

913
00:40:51.720 --> 00:40:56.720
had external focus and they'll say basically like the conclusion is you should

914
00:40:56.720 --> 00:40:57.800
think primarily

915
00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:58.800
externally.

916
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:03.840
Are you, were you listening to me beforehand?

917
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:04.840
You're here for this class.

918
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:05.840
No.

919
00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:16.190
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm, um, yeah, so here's the, here's where I would support them

920
00:41:16.190 --> 00:41:16.600
a little

921
00:41:16.600 --> 00:41:17.600
bit.

922
00:41:17.600 --> 00:41:22.300
You're the, if you think about one specific body part, then you're typically

923
00:41:22.300 --> 00:41:22.660
going to

924
00:41:22.660 --> 00:41:27.400
like over stabilize and kind of lock down the areas around it.

925
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.120
And that would disrupt the fluidness of the motion required for precision.

926
00:41:31.120 --> 00:41:32.120
Yeah.

927
00:41:32.120 --> 00:41:36.720
Which I, I don't totally disagree with.

928
00:41:36.720 --> 00:41:43.000
Um, now the, when I go back to golf, um, Jack Nicholas talks about he didn't

929
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:44.280
win a major

930
00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:48.170
until he had, or when he won his first major, he had like five swing thoughts

931
00:41:48.170 --> 00:41:48.840
and Arnold

932
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:52.900
Palmer said I didn't learn to win until I learned to quiet the mind and have no

933
00:41:52.900 --> 00:41:53.640
thoughts.

934
00:41:53.640 --> 00:41:58.600
Now one of the things that now here's where I would kind of unify things.

935
00:41:58.600 --> 00:42:04.060
Um, I believe that a good movement has a sense from the start through, like it

936
00:42:04.060 --> 00:42:04.920
has a detailed

937
00:42:04.920 --> 00:42:09.000
feel of the whole movement that it can plan out before it begins, right?

938
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:12.570
So from beginning to end, I think what Jack Nicholas was describing was not a

939
00:42:12.570 --> 00:42:13.840
swing thought,

940
00:42:13.840 --> 00:42:17.750
like a verbal cue, like keep my left arm straight, but more of a sensation that

941
00:42:17.750 --> 00:42:18.680
he felt during

942
00:42:18.680 --> 00:42:20.680
a certain phase of the swing.

943
00:42:20.680 --> 00:42:24.870
And I think he had a very clear feel of the whole swing, which became five

944
00:42:24.870 --> 00:42:26.140
swing thoughts,

945
00:42:26.140 --> 00:42:33.180
where I think Arnold Palmer had a very, like a feel of the swing that required

946
00:42:33.180 --> 00:42:34.200
no cues.

947
00:42:34.200 --> 00:42:38.900
So as long as you have a complete picture of the swing, I think you're going to

948
00:42:38.900 --> 00:42:39.020
hit

949
00:42:39.020 --> 00:42:40.420
some great shots, play great golf.

950
00:42:40.420 --> 00:42:44.350
I think that's one way you could unify those two, what seemed like opposing

951
00:42:44.350 --> 00:42:45.140
comments.

952
00:42:45.140 --> 00:42:47.580
I'd say Jack, can I close one percent?

953
00:42:47.580 --> 00:42:48.580
What?

954
00:42:48.580 --> 00:42:49.580
His win first?

955
00:42:49.580 --> 00:42:50.580
Yeah.

956
00:42:50.580 --> 00:42:51.580
He was pretty good.

957
00:42:51.580 --> 00:42:52.580
Yeah.

958
00:42:52.580 --> 00:43:09.140
Yeah, and there's probably room for learning versus performing, right?

959
00:43:09.140 --> 00:43:12.640
So like on the lesson tee, maybe we're a little more internal, but then towards

960
00:43:12.640 --> 00:43:13.060
the end of

961
00:43:13.060 --> 00:43:17.900
the lesson, we have to shift them a little more external and you can educate

962
00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:18.920
your students

963
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:19.920
on this.

964
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.240
Usually they like it.

965
00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:29.210
You don't have to go into a whole lot of detail, but so anyway, from the mind

966
00:43:29.210 --> 00:43:30.640
perspective, we'll

967
00:43:30.640 --> 00:43:35.540
talk a little bit about some quick adult learning principles that I'd like to

968
00:43:35.540 --> 00:43:36.240
share.

969
00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:41.000
Again, you could become an expert in practice sessions.

970
00:43:41.000 --> 00:43:44.990
There are people who, you know, game like golf and things like that, who are

971
00:43:44.990 --> 00:43:45.760
really good

972
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:50.880
at designing practices to get people to work towards specific goals because

973
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:51.860
even just doing

974
00:43:51.860 --> 00:43:55.040
that can help you score better probably faster.

975
00:43:55.040 --> 00:44:01.640
We're going to talk a little bit about awareness, so the motor learning side of

976
00:44:01.640 --> 00:44:02.780
feeling your

977
00:44:02.780 --> 00:44:09.750
body and then some of the classic more like sports psychology of performance

978
00:44:09.750 --> 00:44:10.500
state.

979
00:44:10.500 --> 00:44:15.420
So how do you build confidence or how do you handle anxiety?

980
00:44:15.420 --> 00:44:19.820
Those are two different areas that we could research a little bit more.

981
00:44:19.820 --> 00:44:25.390
From real quick, from the like adult learning perspective, and I'm doing a

982
00:44:25.390 --> 00:44:26.460
terrible job

983
00:44:26.460 --> 00:44:30.340
here, movement Trump sitting.

984
00:44:30.340 --> 00:44:34.360
So like engage, basically the more engagement you can have, the deeper the

985
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.380
learning is going

986
00:44:35.380 --> 00:44:36.580
to be.

987
00:44:36.580 --> 00:44:44.800
So movement Trump sitting because you're up and there's a connection between

988
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:46.260
the movement

989
00:44:46.260 --> 00:44:49.260
aspects of the brain and like when you're learning something.

990
00:44:49.260 --> 00:44:55.340
So it kind of links somewhat to like condition state learning.

991
00:44:55.340 --> 00:45:00.780
But it also, the more that you're moving around, you're more engaged, there's

992
00:45:00.780 --> 00:45:01.300
better

993
00:45:01.300 --> 00:45:05.060
blood flow, better breathing, other things that will help you kind of like stay

994
00:45:05.060 --> 00:45:05.380
more

995
00:45:05.380 --> 00:45:06.380
attentive, right?

996
00:45:06.380 --> 00:45:11.620
If you're just sitting there, it's very easy to kind of zone out, doze off.

997
00:45:11.620 --> 00:45:15.400
Talking Trump listening because I have to, there's a packet of information.

998
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.860
When I listen, I just hear it, it's one system.

999
00:45:17.860 --> 00:45:22.820
To think about it or to talk, I have to like think about it, visualize it, and

1000
00:45:22.820 --> 00:45:23.780
then verbalize

1001
00:45:23.780 --> 00:45:24.780
it.

1002
00:45:24.780 --> 00:45:29.320
So I'm using multiple systems and I'm engaging with that information greater.

1003
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:33.320
So oftentimes with my students, I'm asking questions because I want them to

1004
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:33.940
talk more

1005
00:45:33.940 --> 00:45:37.460
so than me just telling them what I saw.

1006
00:45:37.460 --> 00:45:40.020
You'll see that a lot this weekend.

1007
00:45:40.020 --> 00:45:45.780
Images Trump words, especially if you haven't gotten on the same page that your

1008
00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:46.580
words and

1009
00:45:46.580 --> 00:45:50.120
my words are the same, right?

1010
00:45:50.120 --> 00:45:54.830
I use an example of like, if I say rotate your body, you could rotate from your

1011
00:45:54.830 --> 00:45:55.300
feet,

1012
00:45:55.300 --> 00:45:57.950
you could rotate from your knees, you could rotate from your hips, you could

1013
00:45:57.950 --> 00:45:58.620
rotate lumbar

1014
00:45:58.620 --> 00:46:02.140
spine, thoracic spine, shoulder blades, or cervical spine.

1015
00:46:02.140 --> 00:46:06.020
So when I say rotate your body, I'm going to make sure that what I'm saying is

1016
00:46:06.020 --> 00:46:06.420
what I

1017
00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:11.270
actually want you to do, and what you're hearing is what I actually want you to

1018
00:46:11.270 --> 00:46:11.740
do.

1019
00:46:11.740 --> 00:46:16.940
And so the important thing with that piece of the communication is to make sure

1020
00:46:16.940 --> 00:46:17.300
that

1021
00:46:17.300 --> 00:46:20.660
you're just on the same page.

1022
00:46:20.660 --> 00:46:24.500
Writing Trump's reading for again, again the same reason speaking Trump's

1023
00:46:24.500 --> 00:46:25.940
listening.

1024
00:46:25.940 --> 00:46:28.630
Shorter Trump's longer just because the, like, and that's where I said I'm

1025
00:46:28.630 --> 00:46:29.420
totally breaking

1026
00:46:29.420 --> 00:46:34.440
all these rules here, but the longer you go, the less likely you are to retain

1027
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:35.220
the whole

1028
00:46:35.220 --> 00:46:36.900
thing, right?

1029
00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:40.690
So it's easier for adults, especially to learn in short chunks, which is part

1030
00:46:40.690 --> 00:46:41.580
of why

1031
00:46:41.580 --> 00:46:44.860
most of the videos on the site are like three to five minutes.

1032
00:46:44.860 --> 00:46:49.570
They probably should be one to two, but I kind of get up there and talk through

1033
00:46:49.570 --> 00:46:49.900
it how

1034
00:46:49.900 --> 00:46:54.780
I would with a student, so they're probably a little longer than they could be.

1035
00:46:54.780 --> 00:46:58.890
And then different Trump's the same, if you, you know, how many times have you

1036
00:46:58.890 --> 00:46:59.380
told your

1037
00:46:59.380 --> 00:47:04.400
student the same thing like ten times in a row, sometimes it clicks on that ten

1038
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:05.060
time,

1039
00:47:05.060 --> 00:47:09.240
but oftentimes it would be better to like approach it from a different angle,

1040
00:47:09.240 --> 00:47:09.620
just to

1041
00:47:09.620 --> 00:47:13.460
make them kind of like think about it slightly differently.

1042
00:47:13.460 --> 00:47:16.260
Because it re-engages them with the information.

1043
00:47:16.260 --> 00:47:23.750
Okay, as far as the awareness of where your body is in space, this is a Givoye

1044
00:47:23.750 --> 00:47:24.820
kind of

1045
00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:26.620
little road map.

1046
00:47:26.620 --> 00:47:32.060
If you want to build feel, we want to follow these, this hierarchy.

1047
00:47:32.060 --> 00:47:34.780
And I do think the best golf is played down here in complex.

1048
00:47:34.780 --> 00:47:38.800
That's where Jack Nicholas and Arnold Palmer were when they were just kind of

1049
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:39.620
like sensing

1050
00:47:39.620 --> 00:47:44.660
the whole swing, but not overly focused on one area.

1051
00:47:44.660 --> 00:47:52.470
So a transcendental reference, I frequently use the example of like working on

1052
00:47:52.470 --> 00:47:53.500
posture.

1053
00:47:53.500 --> 00:47:58.200
So a transcendental reference is something external to the body that your body

1054
00:47:58.200 --> 00:47:58.700
will not

1055
00:47:58.700 --> 00:47:59.700
question.

1056
00:47:59.700 --> 00:48:02.180
So like, let's say I wanted to work on posture.

1057
00:48:02.180 --> 00:48:04.460
My brain is pretty confident that this is straight.

1058
00:48:04.460 --> 00:48:08.620
So if I were to stand up against the mirror and get my back, oh, I was

1059
00:48:08.620 --> 00:48:10.180
definitely forward.

1060
00:48:10.180 --> 00:48:12.780
So now I can feel where straight is.

1061
00:48:12.780 --> 00:48:16.960
But as I walk away, I kind of have, I don't have the same benefit of when I'm

1062
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:17.740
up against

1063
00:48:17.740 --> 00:48:18.740
the reference.

1064
00:48:18.740 --> 00:48:22.100
So the transcendental reference is a fixed reference.

1065
00:48:22.100 --> 00:48:26.800
In golf, that typically is like putting shafts on the ground, head covers,

1066
00:48:26.800 --> 00:48:27.620
water bottles,

1067
00:48:27.620 --> 00:48:34.590
whatever objects swinging near walls, the old circle that you would swing along

1068
00:48:34.590 --> 00:48:34.780
.

1069
00:48:34.780 --> 00:48:38.700
Those are things that you're not really going to question as an athlete.

1070
00:48:38.700 --> 00:48:43.790
One question, if you have two students that never work, but one has higher body

1071
00:48:43.790 --> 00:48:44.700
awareness,

1072
00:48:44.700 --> 00:48:48.460
you only have an hour when the other one is low, it's not to feel like you've

1073
00:48:48.460 --> 00:48:48.700
got an

1074
00:48:48.700 --> 00:48:52.660
accomplished lot more with the one that has a little bit more body awareness.

1075
00:48:52.660 --> 00:48:54.700
Depends what their problem is.

1076
00:48:54.700 --> 00:49:02.140
We're always going to start with the problem we're trying to solve.

1077
00:49:02.140 --> 00:49:07.340
And one of the tricky things, I think there's a higher capability, like if I

1078
00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:08.260
needed them

1079
00:49:08.260 --> 00:49:13.750
and let's just say, for example, I needed them to do three things differently

1080
00:49:13.750 --> 00:49:14.460
in order

1081
00:49:14.460 --> 00:49:18.380
to really reach like a good level ball striking.

1082
00:49:18.380 --> 00:49:22.980
On the one with the higher awareness, I might do all three in one lesson.

1083
00:49:22.980 --> 00:49:26.380
On the one with lower awareness, that might be a season.

1084
00:49:26.380 --> 00:49:29.020
Like I might do three lessons on just one thing that gets them hitting it

1085
00:49:29.020 --> 00:49:29.500
better and

1086
00:49:29.500 --> 00:49:31.140
they might be happy.

1087
00:49:31.140 --> 00:49:38.300
I have a hockey player, an ex hockey player, and we've done six lessons on the

1088
00:49:38.300 --> 00:49:39.180
grip.

1089
00:49:39.180 --> 00:49:42.600
He doesn't practice very much, he hates slicing the ball, he always comes in

1090
00:49:42.600 --> 00:49:43.100
with a super

1091
00:49:43.100 --> 00:49:50.260
weak grip, and he's not going to grind to learn different release mechanics.

1092
00:49:50.260 --> 00:49:53.300
So we really work on the precision of the grip.

1093
00:49:53.300 --> 00:49:59.300
Now he has a super high body awareness, like he's a very good, probably comes

1094
00:49:59.300 --> 00:50:00.820
from Canada.

1095
00:50:00.820 --> 00:50:05.300
I'm sure he comes from Canada.

1096
00:50:05.300 --> 00:50:11.420
But given where he is and what problem we're trying to solve, I don't need to

1097
00:50:11.420 --> 00:50:12.380
jump into

1098
00:50:12.380 --> 00:50:14.740
the fact that he can feel everything really well.

1099
00:50:14.740 --> 00:50:19.780
I need the simple solution because he's not going to put in the reps to get to

1100
00:50:19.780 --> 00:50:20.900
this level.

1101
00:50:20.900 --> 00:50:25.420
So first was transcendental reference.

1102
00:50:25.420 --> 00:50:31.880
Level two is receptors, and this can be visual, feel, rhythm, technically it

1103
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:33.260
could be pain,

1104
00:50:33.260 --> 00:50:40.410
it could be smell, any receptors are giving you information that we can use to

1105
00:50:40.410 --> 00:50:41.440
help build

1106
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.460
the awareness of that part of the body.

1107
00:50:43.460 --> 00:50:48.910
So in this particular example where I had the mirror up against my back that I

1108
00:50:48.910 --> 00:50:49.420
could

1109
00:50:49.420 --> 00:50:50.420
feel it.

1110
00:50:50.420 --> 00:50:55.580
If I turn sideways, there I can fix my posture based on visual.

1111
00:50:55.580 --> 00:51:01.820
Now this is where it's really interesting because this is level two, and this

1112
00:51:01.820 --> 00:51:02.880
is video.

1113
00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:09.220
How many students overly rely on video, especially as they're getting ready to

1114
00:51:09.220 --> 00:51:11.420
go out and play?

1115
00:51:11.420 --> 00:51:13.500
Yeah, me too.

1116
00:51:13.500 --> 00:51:21.320
Now I will try to, if I do use video, if I'm playing, I played about 10 times

1117
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:22.420
last year

1118
00:51:22.420 --> 00:51:27.130
and seven of them were in two member guest type situations where it was like

1119
00:51:27.130 --> 00:51:27.820
three days

1120
00:51:27.820 --> 00:51:32.510
in a row, four days in a row, but in the four days in a row, I would use video

1121
00:51:32.510 --> 00:51:33.140
every morning

1122
00:51:33.140 --> 00:51:36.560
when I was warming up on the range at the very beginning and kind of see what I

1123
00:51:36.560 --> 00:51:36.900
wanted

1124
00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:40.700
to do that day and then I would get a feel for it.

1125
00:51:40.700 --> 00:51:43.890
And then I would try to integrate it and go through my four club circuit and

1126
00:51:43.890 --> 00:51:44.220
make sure

1127
00:51:44.220 --> 00:51:46.260
I can do it with all my clubs.

1128
00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:49.140
And then it was just kind of, let's go see what happens.

1129
00:51:49.140 --> 00:51:55.050
But if you just stop at video or if you did it right before, I'll caution my

1130
00:51:55.050 --> 00:51:55.980
students

1131
00:51:55.980 --> 00:52:01.470
like, hey, if you can't feel this, if you have to use video, then you have to

1132
00:52:01.470 --> 00:52:01.980
lower

1133
00:52:01.980 --> 00:52:03.380
your expectations.

1134
00:52:03.380 --> 00:52:08.510
And the other thing I do is when I'm using video in that state or in that sense

1135
00:52:08.510 --> 00:52:09.300
, before

1136
00:52:09.300 --> 00:52:14.180
I show them, I will ask them, what is this going to look like?

1137
00:52:14.180 --> 00:52:16.360
That key question, like, hey, I'm going to show you this, what is this going to

1138
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:16.620
look

1139
00:52:16.620 --> 00:52:17.620
like?

1140
00:52:17.620 --> 00:52:19.700
Yeah, I didn't really do it.

1141
00:52:19.700 --> 00:52:20.700
Okay.

1142
00:52:20.700 --> 00:52:21.700
What's the benchmark?

1143
00:52:21.700 --> 00:52:22.940
Where do you think it's going to be?

1144
00:52:22.940 --> 00:52:27.130
Like really try to make them, and I won't do that at the very beginning when I

1145
00:52:27.130 --> 00:52:27.820
'm working

1146
00:52:27.820 --> 00:52:31.890
with a new student, but as they're getting better, this is how I'm progressing

1147
00:52:31.890 --> 00:52:32.460
them through

1148
00:52:32.460 --> 00:52:38.580
it is now we move into level three, which is cortical, which is basically your

1149
00:52:38.580 --> 00:52:39.260
brain.

1150
00:52:39.260 --> 00:52:43.530
So you're no longer relying just on the sensations, you're taking that

1151
00:52:43.530 --> 00:52:45.540
sensation and you're running

1152
00:52:45.540 --> 00:52:51.180
it through the filter almost like after the fact.

1153
00:52:51.180 --> 00:52:56.170
And so that's where I'll ask, there's something in the release I didn't like,

1154
00:52:56.170 --> 00:52:57.300
what happened?

1155
00:52:57.300 --> 00:52:59.100
What'd you do?

1156
00:52:59.100 --> 00:53:01.730
And that's where they have to do the thinking, they have to do the talking,

1157
00:53:01.730 --> 00:53:02.260
they have to

1158
00:53:02.260 --> 00:53:06.340
process the information to show that they're feeling this swing.

1159
00:53:06.340 --> 00:53:11.100
If they're just like, ah, it was on the toe, we're still way back down here.

1160
00:53:11.100 --> 00:53:14.940
We're not ready to move on.

1161
00:53:14.940 --> 00:53:20.670
And then, so in this case with the posture example, it would be like if

1162
00:53:20.670 --> 00:53:21.900
somebody saw

1163
00:53:21.900 --> 00:53:26.090
me from across the room and said, Tyler, you're posture, and I just, all right,

1164
00:53:26.090 --> 00:53:27.060
there we go,

1165
00:53:27.060 --> 00:53:28.620
I haven't fixed it.

1166
00:53:28.620 --> 00:53:31.810
I didn't look, I didn't have any extra feedback, I didn't use the trends of no

1167
00:53:31.810 --> 00:53:32.220
reference,

1168
00:53:32.220 --> 00:53:36.260
I just used my brain to like fix my posture.

1169
00:53:36.260 --> 00:53:38.700
And then the last one would be when it's more automatic.

1170
00:53:38.700 --> 00:53:43.480
So this would be like, um, like if I was playing like a medicine ball catch,

1171
00:53:43.480 --> 00:53:44.300
and I had to focus

1172
00:53:44.300 --> 00:53:49.760
on my posture as I was doing a medicine ball catch, or potentially if I was

1173
00:53:49.760 --> 00:53:50.820
telling a story

1174
00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:55.690
while swinging a golf club, I've had students do that like, tell me about your

1175
00:53:55.690 --> 00:53:56.580
last Thanksgiving

1176
00:53:56.580 --> 00:54:01.320
while you're swinging the golf club, like anybody getting a fight and that you

1177
00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:01.780
'll see

1178
00:54:01.780 --> 00:54:05.020
their brains just explode, trying to think about that.

1179
00:54:05.020 --> 00:54:07.740
But in other sports, like I played a lot of basketball and I could have a

1180
00:54:07.740 --> 00:54:08.420
conversation

1181
00:54:08.420 --> 00:54:12.520
when I was shooting, or tennis or something like that.

1182
00:54:12.520 --> 00:54:17.650
But that's a good test for being in more of this complex state, which for me is

1183
00:54:17.650 --> 00:54:18.180
going

1184
00:54:18.180 --> 00:54:25.900
to be a little bit more resilient to pressure, a higher level of awareness.

1185
00:54:25.900 --> 00:54:33.140
I think that's one of the more useful like brain things to get really good at.

1186
00:54:33.140 --> 00:54:38.540
Okay, back to the body swinging the club.

1187
00:54:38.540 --> 00:54:39.540
How are we doing?

1188
00:54:39.540 --> 00:54:42.640
Does anybody need two minutes?

1189
00:54:42.640 --> 00:54:47.520
Alright, this is going to, this is engaging like a lot of the stuff that we've

1190
00:54:47.520 --> 00:54:48.140
already

1191
00:54:48.140 --> 00:54:49.140
covered now.

1192
00:54:49.140 --> 00:54:50.140
Okay?

1193
00:54:50.140 --> 00:54:55.900
Don't forget the flat shoulder turn for one of my, the flat shoulder turn.

1194
00:54:55.900 --> 00:54:56.900
What do you mean?

1195
00:54:56.900 --> 00:54:57.900
What do you mean?

1196
00:54:57.900 --> 00:54:58.900
Don't forget.

1197
00:54:58.900 --> 00:55:01.260
We discussed about it.

1198
00:55:01.260 --> 00:55:04.780
I'm happy to discuss any of that stuff.

1199
00:55:04.780 --> 00:55:09.900
Okay, so pivot discussion, what do, what do we look for in a good pivot?

1200
00:55:09.900 --> 00:55:13.660
Anybody not know what I mean by pivot?

1201
00:55:13.660 --> 00:55:16.420
Yeah.

1202
00:55:16.420 --> 00:55:23.070
What I mean by pivot is basically like if you took away essentially like the

1203
00:55:23.070 --> 00:55:24.000
arms and we

1204
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:28.460
just looked at what the, like the spine, the legs, the body, all that stuff.

1205
00:55:28.460 --> 00:55:36.700
But essentially when we're looking at the movements of the body, right?

1206
00:55:36.700 --> 00:55:41.140
I usually break it down into the, you have the backswing and the downswing.

1207
00:55:41.140 --> 00:55:45.970
I break the backswing into kind of takeaway or like initiation and then setting

1208
00:55:45.970 --> 00:55:46.580
the club

1209
00:55:46.580 --> 00:55:50.540
and then downswing into kind of transition and release.

1210
00:55:50.540 --> 00:55:56.750
But from a brain perspective, you would want it, it's more of just, there's

1211
00:55:56.750 --> 00:55:57.820
prepare and

1212
00:55:57.820 --> 00:56:00.700
act, right?

1213
00:56:00.700 --> 00:56:03.060
So the downswing is one action.

1214
00:56:03.060 --> 00:56:06.250
The backswing is the preparation and there's that transition phase where you're

1215
00:56:06.250 --> 00:56:06.780
going from

1216
00:56:06.780 --> 00:56:08.720
one to the other.

1217
00:56:08.720 --> 00:56:12.480
And if we wanted to kind of like detail the pivot, we would look at, well, what

1218
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:13.100
's happening

1219
00:56:13.100 --> 00:56:14.100
at the foot?

1220
00:56:14.100 --> 00:56:15.100
What's happening at the knee?

1221
00:56:15.100 --> 00:56:18.140
What's happening at the hip, spine, scapula, arms.

1222
00:56:18.140 --> 00:56:22.840
This is going to help us figure out what we're going to do with these drills,

1223
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:23.420
right?

1224
00:56:23.420 --> 00:56:29.220
So what do we want to have happen in the backswing?

1225
00:56:29.220 --> 00:56:32.900
Any, anybody want to take some stabs?

1226
00:56:32.900 --> 00:56:40.100
Why are we showing you there's all these different, we want to turn everywhere?

1227
00:56:40.100 --> 00:56:48.860
So you want to keep, okay, so let's start at the foot.

1228
00:56:48.860 --> 00:56:50.860
How do I create a base with the foot?

1229
00:56:50.860 --> 00:56:54.340
Retrying or three pieces of the triangle of your foot.

1230
00:56:54.340 --> 00:57:00.260
What controls the three pieces of the triangle?

1231
00:57:00.260 --> 00:57:07.230
I'm looking for an anatomical, the rest of the leg, I mean, we're still in the

1232
00:57:07.230 --> 00:57:07.700
foot.

1233
00:57:07.700 --> 00:57:11.280
And there will be some stuff where I'm probably going to say things anatom

1234
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:12.140
ically that are

1235
00:57:12.140 --> 00:57:14.300
beyond what I think you need to know.

1236
00:57:14.300 --> 00:57:17.380
But in this discussion, I'm going to go more deep.

1237
00:57:17.380 --> 00:57:22.670
So at the foot, the big one that we want to control is the navicular, which is

1238
00:57:22.670 --> 00:57:23.540
the inside

1239
00:57:23.540 --> 00:57:24.900
part of the triangle.

1240
00:57:24.900 --> 00:57:30.720
So the triangle is typically the heel, yep, the navicular and the cuboid, like

1241
00:57:30.720 --> 00:57:31.660
those sides

1242
00:57:31.660 --> 00:57:33.700
of the foot.

1243
00:57:33.700 --> 00:57:41.460
So with your navicular, you're going to basically push it towards the ground.

1244
00:57:41.460 --> 00:57:43.580
The cuboid is the other side of the foot.

1245
00:57:43.580 --> 00:57:47.640
If it were to not do anything, it would roll with it, so it wants to resist as

1246
00:57:47.640 --> 00:57:48.140
well.

1247
00:57:48.140 --> 00:57:52.700
So basically, the foot is almost going to like grip against the ground.

1248
00:57:52.700 --> 00:57:55.020
And what does that do?

1249
00:57:55.020 --> 00:58:02.820
You mentioned it creates kind of this anchor, part of your body.

1250
00:58:02.820 --> 00:58:07.030
It creates a really strong platform for the glute because the glute actually

1251
00:58:07.030 --> 00:58:07.740
wraps down

1252
00:58:07.740 --> 00:58:11.900
the leg and then underneath the bottom of the foot and connects on the big toe.

1253
00:58:11.900 --> 00:58:19.050
So if we basically, if I was to simplify that by making it more complex, like

1254
00:58:19.050 --> 00:58:20.620
the complexity

1255
00:58:20.620 --> 00:58:26.690
anatomy, basically, I'm trying to load this whole tissue from the foot to the

1256
00:58:26.690 --> 00:58:27.340
hip.

1257
00:58:27.340 --> 00:58:29.460
And this is basically, well, how do I do that?

1258
00:58:29.460 --> 00:58:35.720
It's the third part of the triangle, the cuboid, the navicular.

1259
00:58:35.720 --> 00:58:36.720
The calcaneus.

1260
00:58:36.720 --> 00:58:37.720
The calcaneus?

1261
00:58:37.720 --> 00:58:38.720
The heel.

1262
00:58:38.720 --> 00:58:41.620
So it's the heel on this?

1263
00:58:41.620 --> 00:58:44.180
Yeah, it forms.

1264
00:58:44.180 --> 00:58:48.290
There's a couple of different models as far as like looking at how the foot

1265
00:58:48.290 --> 00:58:48.980
moves.

1266
00:58:48.980 --> 00:58:56.180
And I think I did like a little bit more detailed anatomy in one of the coach's

1267
00:58:56.180 --> 00:58:57.300
webinars.

1268
00:58:57.300 --> 00:59:00.620
But basically, the foot has two primary functions.

1269
00:59:00.620 --> 00:59:05.390
It either becomes rigid by forming an arch so that it can transmit force from

1270
00:59:05.390 --> 00:59:05.940
the leg

1271
00:59:05.940 --> 00:59:10.650
into the ground or it becomes more mobile or flat so that it creates a bigger

1272
00:59:10.650 --> 00:59:11.180
surface

1273
00:59:11.180 --> 00:59:12.980
area and can absorb force.

1274
00:59:12.980 --> 00:59:17.060
So it goes from a absorb force rigid to push the transmit force.

1275
00:59:17.060 --> 00:59:18.580
Is it the kind of spiral?

1276
00:59:18.580 --> 00:59:19.580
Yes.

1277
00:59:19.580 --> 00:59:22.060
Yeah, it kind of has like a plate.

1278
00:59:22.060 --> 00:59:23.060
Yeah.

1279
00:59:23.060 --> 00:59:24.060
Yeah.

1280
00:59:24.060 --> 00:59:25.060
Yeah.

1281
00:59:25.060 --> 00:59:29.940
Can you talk about footwear issues?

1282
00:59:29.940 --> 00:59:32.180
I love these.

1283
00:59:32.180 --> 00:59:36.460
Yeah, most golf footwear is way too narrow.

1284
00:59:36.460 --> 00:59:43.440
And so it prevents the big toe from working really well and it often causes

1285
00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:44.700
like the navicular

1286
00:59:44.700 --> 00:59:48.180
and cuboid to kind of fight and not have enough space.

1287
00:59:48.180 --> 00:59:49.900
I would love wider toe box.

1288
00:59:49.900 --> 00:59:52.540
That's the main thing that I would be looking for.

1289
00:59:52.540 --> 00:59:56.380
Now I think in golf it's probably an advantage to have a little bit of a heel.

1290
00:59:56.380 --> 01:00:00.660
Like I don't think I would want like a zero, like a flat shoe.

1291
01:00:00.660 --> 01:00:01.660
Yeah.

1292
01:00:01.660 --> 01:00:02.660
Yeah.

1293
01:00:02.660 --> 01:00:09.580
Then Nick Faldo said they gave him like 30 yards or something, right?

1294
01:00:09.580 --> 01:00:18.140
But I think having a wide enough toe box would be more any.

1295
01:00:18.140 --> 01:00:23.490
So that's the whole, yes, the whole argument with like orthotics is essentially

1296
01:00:23.490 --> 01:00:24.420
that they

1297
01:00:24.420 --> 01:00:27.580
tend to believe that once you get past a certain point you can't really change

1298
01:00:27.580 --> 01:00:28.420
that capacity.

1299
01:00:28.420 --> 01:00:32.480
So if you have a flat foot that isn't very good at transmitting force, then you

1300
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:32.900
put an

1301
01:00:32.900 --> 01:00:34.740
arch in it.

1302
01:00:34.740 --> 01:00:38.980
The harder one is if you have a rigid foot, what do you do?

1303
01:00:38.980 --> 01:00:44.500
You don't push on the top of it in order to be able to absorb more speed.

1304
01:00:44.500 --> 01:00:48.130
That could be, remember I said, that's one of the things that's missing from 3D

1305
01:00:48.130 --> 01:00:48.440
.

1306
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:54.110
And I maybe 10 times a year I'll ask someone to take off their shoes and look

1307
01:00:54.110 --> 01:00:54.860
at their

1308
01:00:54.860 --> 01:00:55.860
feet when they're swinging.

1309
01:00:55.860 --> 01:00:59.460
Like it's not something that's in my normal roll of decks.

1310
01:00:59.460 --> 01:01:04.420
But I think some of the things that you might see with like knees and hips are

1311
01:01:04.420 --> 01:01:05.380
like a direct

1312
01:01:05.380 --> 01:01:10.260
result of what's happening at the foot and we're just not looking there.

1313
01:01:10.260 --> 01:01:12.220
And I put myself in that category.

1314
01:01:12.220 --> 01:01:16.920
I think a lot of call fronts don't learn enough about like the ankles and the

1315
01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:17.100
knees and what's

1316
01:01:17.100 --> 01:01:18.100
going on.

1317
01:01:18.100 --> 01:01:19.100
Yeah.

1318
01:01:19.100 --> 01:01:20.100
So not exactly.

1319
01:01:20.100 --> 01:01:23.290
So it's like, you know, you might see like the knee cave out on the backs or

1320
01:01:23.290 --> 01:01:23.820
something

1321
01:01:23.820 --> 01:01:24.820
like that.

1322
01:01:24.820 --> 01:01:25.820
You're just like, stop doing that.

1323
01:01:25.820 --> 01:01:29.730
But it's probably something so low or above it and we're just like, all right,

1324
01:01:29.730 --> 01:01:30.140
so that

1325
01:01:30.140 --> 01:01:31.140
takes us to the knee.

1326
01:01:31.140 --> 01:01:32.580
What do we want the knee to do?

1327
01:01:32.580 --> 01:01:37.980
Kind of goes back to the spiral a little bit too.

1328
01:01:37.980 --> 01:01:38.980
Yeah.

1329
01:01:38.980 --> 01:01:39.980
So which way?

1330
01:01:39.980 --> 01:01:42.020
Like it spirals out a little bit.

1331
01:01:42.020 --> 01:01:46.420
So it extends and it takes spirals like that.

1332
01:01:46.420 --> 01:01:47.420
Yeah.

1333
01:01:47.420 --> 01:01:50.860
So the knee is going to have a little bit of external rotation.

1334
01:01:50.860 --> 01:01:57.380
Now this is where it's a good, good place to talk about like, if you maximize

1335
01:01:57.380 --> 01:01:58.900
one movement,

1336
01:01:58.900 --> 01:02:03.140
you sacrifice movement at the other, at like the adjacent areas.

1337
01:02:03.140 --> 01:02:04.620
So golf's tricky.

1338
01:02:04.620 --> 01:02:06.180
I sometimes use the example.

1339
01:02:06.180 --> 01:02:10.240
It's like, it's like throwing a punch, throwing a kick and jumping all at the

1340
01:02:10.240 --> 01:02:11.060
same time.

1341
01:02:11.060 --> 01:02:15.000
And you're collectively trying to do the best at all of them, but not by over

1342
01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:15.620
doing one

1343
01:02:15.620 --> 01:02:16.620
of them.

1344
01:02:16.620 --> 01:02:20.070
Like if you tried to throw the hardest punch, it would probably mess up your

1345
01:02:20.070 --> 01:02:20.700
kick or your

1346
01:02:20.700 --> 01:02:21.700
jump.

1347
01:02:21.700 --> 01:02:22.700
Does that make sense?

1348
01:02:22.700 --> 01:02:27.740
So the knee, we basically want it to kind of go like that, but on a very small

1349
01:02:27.740 --> 01:02:28.460
level.

1350
01:02:28.460 --> 01:02:33.170
So when you say we're externally rotating the knee that comes from either the

1351
01:02:33.170 --> 01:02:33.740
ankle or

1352
01:02:33.740 --> 01:02:34.740
the hip?

1353
01:02:34.740 --> 01:02:37.340
No, the knee.

1354
01:02:37.340 --> 01:02:40.910
The knee, when it's bent, has 30 degrees of rotation, 35 degrees, something

1355
01:02:40.910 --> 01:02:41.620
like that,

1356
01:02:41.620 --> 01:02:42.620
30 or 35.

1357
01:02:42.620 --> 01:02:44.620
I'll have to double check.

1358
01:02:44.620 --> 01:02:53.020
Like if my knee is bent, and I go like that, what turned in?

1359
01:02:53.020 --> 01:02:54.020
From where?

1360
01:02:54.020 --> 01:02:55.020
That's what I don't know.

1361
01:02:55.020 --> 01:02:56.460
My knee.

1362
01:02:56.460 --> 01:02:59.380
This is knee rotation.

1363
01:02:59.380 --> 01:03:05.760
So I can go out slightly like that, which is rotating like the actual knee

1364
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:06.660
joint.

1365
01:03:06.660 --> 01:03:10.940
But the important point is that the ankle is more of a hinge.

1366
01:03:10.940 --> 01:03:14.860
The foot is it you're keeping your foot stable on the ground?

1367
01:03:14.860 --> 01:03:15.860
Correct.

1368
01:03:15.860 --> 01:03:20.040
So I'm keeping that cuboid because if I wanted to do maximum rotation, I lose

1369
01:03:20.040 --> 01:03:21.580
that connection.

1370
01:03:21.580 --> 01:03:24.700
So that's why we started there of like, okay, I want to get that connection.

1371
01:03:24.700 --> 01:03:29.460
And now when I do this, I've built some tension into it.

1372
01:03:29.460 --> 01:03:34.460
The one example would be if I turn this in, like I'm stopping the, I'm

1373
01:03:34.460 --> 01:03:36.700
restricting my rotation,

1374
01:03:36.700 --> 01:03:41.140
but at a very local level, if I turn, if I connect the foot, turn that out.

1375
01:03:41.140 --> 01:03:44.960
Now I'm stopping the rotation, but I can feel tension building all up along

1376
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:46.620
that whole side.

1377
01:03:46.620 --> 01:03:48.620
That tension is potential power.

1378
01:03:48.620 --> 01:03:49.620
Yes.

1379
01:03:49.620 --> 01:03:54.480
This is TV centric that you watch high levels to a, to a pros and when the

1380
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:55.380
camera shows

1381
01:03:55.380 --> 01:03:59.180
on their feet, they're, they're, they're solid on the ground.

1382
01:03:59.180 --> 01:04:03.390
I wish we could see in their shoes because you would see like some gripping and

1383
01:04:03.390 --> 01:04:04.020
twisting

1384
01:04:04.020 --> 01:04:10.570
and not just like, you'll often see the big, like the inside of the big toe on

1385
01:04:10.570 --> 01:04:11.460
the trail

1386
01:04:11.460 --> 01:04:13.500
foot come off the ground slightly.

1387
01:04:13.500 --> 01:04:15.940
You'll often see a little bit of that.

1388
01:04:15.940 --> 01:04:16.940
Okay.

1389
01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:18.500
And when I just did that, my foot's about to cramp.

1390
01:04:18.500 --> 01:04:21.260
I need to do my foot exercises.

1391
01:04:21.260 --> 01:04:22.260
Yeah.

1392
01:04:22.260 --> 01:04:23.260
Okay.

1393
01:04:23.260 --> 01:04:37.550
So we're, we're up to the knee, three tendencies, I would say, because I, like

1394
01:04:37.550 --> 01:04:38.700
I didn't put

1395
01:04:38.700 --> 01:04:39.900
a lot of numbers in there.

1396
01:04:39.900 --> 01:04:42.980
It was more like the patterns, right?

1397
01:04:42.980 --> 01:04:48.590
Like the only, I believe the only numbers I put in were a few things related to

1398
01:04:48.590 --> 01:04:49.300
the lateral

1399
01:04:49.300 --> 01:04:53.060
movement of the upper body and the movements of the wrist as like goals of as

1400
01:04:53.060 --> 01:04:53.500
far as how

1401
01:04:53.500 --> 01:04:59.100
much to do and everywhere else, it's more of, and you're jumping ahead.

1402
01:04:59.100 --> 01:05:00.420
You're, you're good at this.

1403
01:05:00.420 --> 01:05:05.060
You know where I'm going on purpose, I guess.

1404
01:05:05.060 --> 01:05:10.980
So the two sides will just jump.

1405
01:05:10.980 --> 01:05:14.080
I'm just closing the loop on that question.

1406
01:05:14.080 --> 01:05:18.020
This picture here is from an instructor giving a fitness class to people who

1407
01:05:18.020 --> 01:05:18.700
know what they're

1408
01:05:18.700 --> 01:05:23.710
doing and they are all trying to stretch their so as, their hip flexor, which

1409
01:05:23.710 --> 01:05:24.660
is basically

1410
01:05:24.660 --> 01:05:28.420
right there, right?

1411
01:05:28.420 --> 01:05:29.700
That's myofascial stretching.

1412
01:05:29.700 --> 01:05:32.890
So the class that I'm doing, the four day class, it's like going to be newer

1413
01:05:32.890 --> 01:05:33.180
stuff of

1414
01:05:33.180 --> 01:05:34.180
that.

1415
01:05:34.180 --> 01:05:39.740
But if this was a golf swing, who's doing it the best?

1416
01:05:39.740 --> 01:05:42.660
Which one's got the right arm angle?

1417
01:05:42.660 --> 01:05:47.620
Well they're all different body types.

1418
01:05:47.620 --> 01:05:53.140
So is someone doing this versus someone doing that versus someone doing that,

1419
01:05:53.140 --> 01:05:54.140
are they doing

1420
01:05:54.140 --> 01:05:59.740
different things?

1421
01:05:59.740 --> 01:06:05.420
But I just told you the same goal, they're building tension in the same place.

1422
01:06:05.420 --> 01:06:11.090
So this is where part of the philosophy of this whole class is I'm going to try

1423
01:06:11.090 --> 01:06:11.460
to help

1424
01:06:11.460 --> 01:06:16.160
you teach your students where to feel tension, not so much teach them exactly

1425
01:06:16.160 --> 01:06:16.740
what it's going

1426
01:06:16.740 --> 01:06:18.140
to look like.

1427
01:06:18.140 --> 01:06:23.840
Like I want you to be able to look at that picture and see where is tension,

1428
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:24.780
like where

1429
01:06:24.780 --> 01:06:28.380
is the tension and where are the gaps in the tension, like how can I make that

1430
01:06:28.380 --> 01:06:29.020
better?

1431
01:06:29.020 --> 01:06:32.520
It's Jack Nicholas.

1432
01:06:32.520 --> 01:06:35.780
I'm hoping that we'll get to some level of that.

1433
01:06:35.780 --> 01:06:39.540
But I basically put this in here as like we don't want to get overly obsessed

1434
01:06:39.540 --> 01:06:40.620
about like

1435
01:06:40.620 --> 01:06:45.470
some of these angles and things that we might see on video that would have more

1436
01:06:45.470 --> 01:06:46.340
of a numeric

1437
01:06:46.340 --> 01:06:48.460
component compared to looking at tension.

1438
01:06:48.460 --> 01:06:51.880
And that's why we're going through this little pivot discussion of trying to

1439
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:52.300
like how do

1440
01:06:52.300 --> 01:06:57.370
I wrap that line of tension all the way up like through the whole body up into

1441
01:06:57.370 --> 01:07:01.380
the arms?

1442
01:07:01.380 --> 01:07:05.740
And that's like what that picture shows is what thing you can't measure.

1443
01:07:05.740 --> 01:07:06.740
Correct.

1444
01:07:06.740 --> 01:07:19.280
Okay, so we've got the foot, the knee at the hip, it's probably the easiest one

1445
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:20.500
, what do

1446
01:07:20.500 --> 01:07:23.980
we want?

1447
01:07:23.980 --> 01:07:31.940
Yeah, so a little bit, I'm okay with a little bit of displacement deeper and a

1448
01:07:31.940 --> 01:07:33.180
little bit

1449
01:07:33.180 --> 01:07:35.060
of relative internal rotation.

1450
01:07:35.060 --> 01:07:38.480
So it's actually, it's kind of maintaining that tension going outward, but the

1451
01:07:38.480 --> 01:07:38.780
pelvis

1452
01:07:38.780 --> 01:07:43.200
is turning more into it to create that tension into the hip, right?

1453
01:07:43.200 --> 01:07:45.780
So there's some relative internal rotation, ha ha.

1454
01:07:45.780 --> 01:07:51.080
So in the hip, the hip is like this is his claw and his socket, the hip is

1455
01:07:51.080 --> 01:07:52.420
moving back?

1456
01:07:52.420 --> 01:07:57.020
Not in the hip, like the pelvis is moving back.

1457
01:07:57.020 --> 01:08:00.670
The hip is kicked forward, like if I'm just standing here, the hip is not out

1458
01:08:00.670 --> 01:08:01.460
to the side,

1459
01:08:01.460 --> 01:08:04.340
it's on an angle kind of about like that.

1460
01:08:04.340 --> 01:08:09.630
So when I turn, partly because it's angled forward, I'm going to get create

1461
01:08:09.630 --> 01:08:10.500
like an even

1462
01:08:10.500 --> 01:08:12.980
greater stretch in the glute.

1463
01:08:12.980 --> 01:08:13.980
Yes?

1464
01:08:13.980 --> 01:08:20.430
This is trail side awareness, can we automatically assume the lead side's going

1465
01:08:20.430 --> 01:08:21.260
to be okay?

1466
01:08:21.260 --> 01:08:29.420
So I'm putting it more from kind of like just to avoid having this be a two

1467
01:08:29.420 --> 01:08:30.820
hour slide.

1468
01:08:30.820 --> 01:08:35.520
And because I believe that you have more wiggle room and freedom of the lead

1469
01:08:35.520 --> 01:08:36.140
side during

1470
01:08:36.140 --> 01:08:41.000
the backswing, because this is the side that's actually getting like loaded,

1471
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.140
there are things

1472
01:08:42.140 --> 01:08:46.760
where the lead side would be a restriction to how well you could do the trail

1473
01:08:46.760 --> 01:08:46.980
side.

1474
01:08:46.980 --> 01:08:51.690
So I would never say that if you just do it on the right side, it will be like

1475
01:08:51.690 --> 01:08:52.300
good enough

1476
01:08:52.300 --> 01:08:57.050
and the swing will be perfect, but for many of your students, if you do get

1477
01:08:57.050 --> 01:08:57.740
them to do

1478
01:08:57.740 --> 01:09:01.380
it well on the trail side, it's probably good enough.

1479
01:09:01.380 --> 01:09:03.990
I'll have some students who are like, is it okay that my knee is coming in a

1480
01:09:03.990 --> 01:09:05.340
little bit?

1481
01:09:05.340 --> 01:09:07.630
And then I'll show them what it would feel like in their hip if they didn't,

1482
01:09:07.630 --> 01:09:08.140
and they're

1483
01:09:08.140 --> 01:09:12.820
like, okay, I'm going to let my knee keep coming in because that hurts.

1484
01:09:12.820 --> 01:09:17.520
So I'll try to teach some of those rules when we're going through the hands on

1485
01:09:17.520 --> 01:09:17.940
stuff, because

1486
01:09:17.940 --> 01:09:22.840
I'm sure people in here are going to feel like, man, I don't like the way that

1487
01:09:22.840 --> 01:09:23.580
feels.

1488
01:09:23.580 --> 01:09:28.460
For a while, I don't know if all of you know, part of the reason I study the

1489
01:09:28.460 --> 01:09:29.620
body is because

1490
01:09:29.620 --> 01:09:33.070
I had some injuries, like I didn't play golf for about 10 years, I'm just kind

1491
01:09:33.070 --> 01:09:33.540
of getting

1492
01:09:33.540 --> 01:09:34.540
back into it.

1493
01:09:34.540 --> 01:09:38.800
You'll notice that there's a big gap in the site where I don't do a whole lot

1494
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:39.260
of full

1495
01:09:39.260 --> 01:09:45.780
swing drivers, or there are lots of controlled three quarter iron shots.

1496
01:09:45.780 --> 01:09:50.480
And part of that was because when I would do real practice, I would get really

1497
01:09:50.480 --> 01:09:51.380
bad headaches

1498
01:09:51.380 --> 01:09:52.700
from like what's going on.

1499
01:09:52.700 --> 01:09:58.670
So like me trying to do it better has gotten better as I've been, the part of

1500
01:09:58.670 --> 01:09:59.620
the reason

1501
01:09:59.620 --> 01:10:04.100
I go to these classes is I also get treatment from the instructor.

1502
01:10:04.100 --> 01:10:07.590
And as we've been working on my fascia, my body's getting better, my swing's

1503
01:10:07.590 --> 01:10:08.060
getting

1504
01:10:08.060 --> 01:10:10.100
better, I'm able to play a little bit more.

1505
01:10:10.100 --> 01:10:17.070
I'm hoping 24 will be the year that I can like really get back to feeling that

1506
01:10:17.070 --> 01:10:20.220
's, yeah,

1507
01:10:20.220 --> 01:10:26.880
I had been kind of going to different doctors and you know, Janet Alexander,

1508
01:10:26.880 --> 01:10:27.980
she had been

1509
01:10:27.980 --> 01:10:31.590
helping me with my exercise program and she had a knee injury and she went in s

1510
01:10:31.590 --> 01:10:32.740
oggy and

1511
01:10:32.740 --> 01:10:37.010
he like fixed it like that and she was like, yeah, I don't know who this guy is

1512
01:10:37.010 --> 01:10:37.700
, but you

1513
01:10:37.700 --> 01:10:38.700
should go see him.

1514
01:10:38.700 --> 01:10:40.660
That was like seven years ago.

1515
01:10:40.660 --> 01:10:55.310
Yes, it would be more eccentric loading, eccentric is when the muscles are leng

1516
01:10:55.310 --> 01:10:56.180
thening.

1517
01:10:56.180 --> 01:11:04.900
And so as I'm twisting into it, that whole side is getting stretched as well.

1518
01:11:04.900 --> 01:11:12.710
Yeah, so it would be, you wouldn't really call it, it would be concentrically

1519
01:11:12.710 --> 01:11:13.660
acting,

1520
01:11:13.660 --> 01:11:15.620
but it wouldn't be concentrically loading.

1521
01:11:15.620 --> 01:11:19.460
You typically talk about eccentric loading, you think you could do concentric

1522
01:11:19.460 --> 01:11:20.100
loading.

1523
01:11:20.100 --> 01:11:22.220
I'll have to ask Mike Duffy.

1524
01:11:22.220 --> 01:11:26.260
You can answer later if it gets off track, but a lot of things you're talking

1525
01:11:26.260 --> 01:11:26.780
about like

1526
01:11:26.780 --> 01:11:30.340
the knee that hip on the backswing loading, like would it be advantageous for

1527
01:11:30.340 --> 01:11:31.460
like a little

1528
01:11:31.460 --> 01:11:36.170
trail foot flare and it's like, have you determined what's too much or not

1529
01:11:36.170 --> 01:11:38.140
enough?

1530
01:11:38.140 --> 01:11:43.660
Yes, and yes, and yes, how do you determine what's enough?

1531
01:11:43.660 --> 01:11:49.970
We can do like a quick little demo or exercise after that or when we go out

1532
01:11:49.970 --> 01:11:50.940
there.

1533
01:11:50.940 --> 01:11:57.610
But yes, it's not something that I obsess on unless I think it's limiting some

1534
01:11:57.610 --> 01:11:58.340
of this

1535
01:11:58.340 --> 01:12:02.740
loading or unloading in the downswing case.

1536
01:12:02.740 --> 01:12:06.540
All right, spine.

1537
01:12:06.540 --> 01:12:11.540
One of my favorites, any guesses?

1538
01:12:11.540 --> 01:12:14.380
Rotate.

1539
01:12:14.380 --> 01:12:20.460
An extension.

1540
01:12:20.460 --> 01:12:24.500
So the technical term for that would be negative torsion.

1541
01:12:24.500 --> 01:12:26.900
Negative torsion is a blended movement.

1542
01:12:26.900 --> 01:12:31.500
So torsion is a blend of extension and rotation or flexion and rotation.

1543
01:12:31.500 --> 01:12:33.300
So this is positive torsion.

1544
01:12:33.300 --> 01:12:35.900
This is negative torsion.

1545
01:12:35.900 --> 01:12:41.050
And so there's a little bit of negative torsion with a little bit of axial

1546
01:12:41.050 --> 01:12:42.060
extension where

1547
01:12:42.060 --> 01:12:49.870
it's trying to get a little bit longer, but also doing just a little bit of

1548
01:12:49.870 --> 01:12:51.300
side bend.

1549
01:12:51.300 --> 01:12:58.180
So if it's true negative torsion, then it's pretty much one to one.

1550
01:12:58.180 --> 01:13:05.180
If they get it going this way, two left, I've done two early, two months.

1551
01:13:05.180 --> 01:13:09.060
Yeah, so you mean people are kind of like that.

1552
01:13:09.060 --> 01:13:16.260
I would say that something else was wrong as in, well, I didn't really do the

1553
01:13:16.260 --> 01:13:17.300
external

1554
01:13:17.300 --> 01:13:18.860
rotation of the knee.

1555
01:13:18.860 --> 01:13:21.100
I didn't really load the hip.

1556
01:13:21.100 --> 01:13:24.420
And I didn't get any rotation of the ribs.

1557
01:13:24.420 --> 01:13:26.100
I just did a side bend.

1558
01:13:26.100 --> 01:13:29.590
And oftentimes what happens when they do that is it's more of a side bend of

1559
01:13:29.590 --> 01:13:30.260
like the hip

1560
01:13:30.260 --> 01:13:33.460
and the pelvis where the spine didn't actually change much.

1561
01:13:33.460 --> 01:13:40.100
It's kind of like this versus that.

1562
01:13:40.100 --> 01:13:45.740
And this is again where you can get really messy with the terminology.

1563
01:13:45.740 --> 01:13:48.900
So that's why I say like where it's happening rather than the term.

1564
01:13:48.900 --> 01:13:52.920
Because some people will call this spine bend, some people will call this spine

1565
01:13:52.920 --> 01:13:53.300
tilt, some

1566
01:13:53.300 --> 01:13:58.980
people will call it lateral flexion, it's just dealer's choice.

1567
01:13:58.980 --> 01:14:00.580
What word do they like?

1568
01:14:00.580 --> 01:14:05.980
Can your head help with that, like look at the sky?

1569
01:14:05.980 --> 01:14:07.940
Your head is part of the spine.

1570
01:14:07.940 --> 01:14:08.940
Yeah.

1571
01:14:08.940 --> 01:14:12.060
We're going to do an exercise where we work on neck movement.

1572
01:14:12.060 --> 01:14:13.700
Yeah.

1573
01:14:13.700 --> 01:14:16.580
It's not the first one I go to for a lot of people.

1574
01:14:16.580 --> 01:14:17.580
Yeah.

1575
01:14:17.580 --> 01:14:23.620
I mean you know the forehead guy, yeah I was definitely guiding the neck.

1576
01:14:23.620 --> 01:14:24.620
So negative towards him.

1577
01:14:24.620 --> 01:14:25.780
What about the scapula?

1578
01:14:25.780 --> 01:14:27.780
What is the scapula?

1579
01:14:27.780 --> 01:14:28.780
Shoulder blade.

1580
01:14:28.780 --> 01:14:29.780
Pre-traction?

1581
01:14:29.780 --> 01:14:30.780
Shoulder blade.

1582
01:14:30.780 --> 01:14:31.780
Back here.

1583
01:14:31.780 --> 01:14:32.780
Pre-traction.

1584
01:14:32.780 --> 01:14:33.780
Yeah.

1585
01:14:33.780 --> 01:14:34.780
Retraction.

1586
01:14:34.780 --> 01:14:35.780
Pro-traction.

1587
01:14:35.780 --> 01:14:36.780
Yeah.

1588
01:14:36.780 --> 01:14:41.940
So retraction, pro-traction, little elevation.

1589
01:14:41.940 --> 01:14:46.640
So it's a little bit of movement of retraction, depression, elevation, prot

1590
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:47.180
raction.

1591
01:14:47.180 --> 01:14:48.380
Kind of like this.

1592
01:14:48.380 --> 01:14:51.930
So we've loaded into the foot, we've loaded into the knee, we've loaded into

1593
01:14:51.930 --> 01:14:52.460
the hip,

1594
01:14:52.460 --> 01:14:57.610
we got that negative torsion, and then we got the shoulder blades in that

1595
01:14:57.610 --> 01:14:58.660
position.

1596
01:14:58.660 --> 01:15:01.340
Now what about the arms?

1597
01:15:01.340 --> 01:15:05.100
I know I said the pivot doesn't really include the arms, but in this case, what

1598
01:15:05.100 --> 01:15:05.660
about the

1599
01:15:05.660 --> 01:15:06.660
shoulders?

1600
01:15:06.660 --> 01:15:09.740
It just follow.

1601
01:15:09.740 --> 01:15:13.580
How would that build tension?

1602
01:15:13.580 --> 01:15:15.020
I think it looks that way.

1603
01:15:15.020 --> 01:15:21.020
Do you see the arms where you can get some of our functions right now?

1604
01:15:21.020 --> 01:15:25.250
So the trail arm, a little bit external, and the lead arm, a little bit

1605
01:15:25.250 --> 01:15:26.300
internal would

1606
01:15:26.300 --> 01:15:33.100
be kind of like the maximum like sling tension.

1607
01:15:33.100 --> 01:15:37.810
Now if you do it to like the greatest of your capabilities, then you have no

1608
01:15:37.810 --> 01:15:39.500
room for increasing

1609
01:15:39.500 --> 01:15:42.820
it on the way down.

1610
01:15:42.820 --> 01:15:48.990
So that can be like you want to load it, but not like you're trying to do the

1611
01:15:48.990 --> 01:15:50.340
worst stretch

1612
01:15:50.340 --> 01:15:51.620
you've ever done.

1613
01:15:51.620 --> 01:15:58.420
How much elevation is there through the arms?

1614
01:15:58.420 --> 01:15:59.660
Depends.

1615
01:15:59.660 --> 01:16:00.660
[inaudible]

1616
01:16:00.660 --> 01:16:01.660
Yeah.

1617
01:16:01.660 --> 01:16:02.660
[inaudible]

1618
01:16:02.660 --> 01:16:03.660
Yeah.

1619
01:16:03.660 --> 01:16:04.660
[inaudible]

1620
01:16:04.660 --> 01:16:12.060
Yeah, but I think you want tension.

1621
01:16:12.060 --> 01:16:15.480
You always hear me say kind of more the armpit and kind of like the inside

1622
01:16:15.480 --> 01:16:16.940
versus more like

1623
01:16:16.940 --> 01:16:20.540
shrugging the shoulders and getting it more on the outside or top side.

1624
01:16:20.540 --> 01:16:27.780
So I'm generally trying to get the tension more kind of in front and in like in

1625
01:16:27.780 --> 01:16:30.180
the serratus,

1626
01:16:30.180 --> 01:16:36.740
the long head of the tricep, like the internal side of the shoulder.

1627
01:16:36.740 --> 01:16:44.420
Okay, downswing.

1628
01:16:44.420 --> 01:16:48.180
These are what our field drills, our tactile drills are going to be trying to

1629
01:16:48.180 --> 01:16:48.740
help that

1630
01:16:48.740 --> 01:16:52.100
stuff, especially the spine and shoulder blades.

1631
01:16:52.100 --> 01:16:54.100
Those are the tricky ones.

1632
01:16:54.100 --> 01:16:55.100
[inaudible]

1633
01:16:55.100 --> 01:17:01.940
So we're going to transfer to the ball, I like that.

1634
01:17:01.940 --> 01:17:05.780
So now we're kind of switching to the lead leg, but how do we get there?

1635
01:17:05.780 --> 01:17:06.780
How do we transfer?

1636
01:17:06.780 --> 01:17:07.780
[inaudible]

1637
01:17:07.780 --> 01:17:08.780
Yeah, okay.

1638
01:17:08.780 --> 01:17:09.780
How do I do that?

1639
01:17:09.780 --> 01:17:10.700
Do I push with the foot?

1640
01:17:10.700 --> 01:17:11.700
[inaudible]

1641
01:17:11.700 --> 01:17:12.700
Okay.

1642
01:17:12.700 --> 01:17:13.700
Good answer.

1643
01:17:13.700 --> 01:17:14.700
[inaudible]

1644
01:17:14.700 --> 01:17:38.600
What were you talking about with Genkis and so we're up there and potentially I

1645
01:17:38.600 --> 01:17:40.620
could have

1646
01:17:40.620 --> 01:17:43.810
added not just a negative torsion if you were really trying to get it to a high

1647
01:17:43.810 --> 01:17:44.100
level,

1648
01:17:44.100 --> 01:17:49.250
you would actually sway a little bit to the right to load it even more, and

1649
01:17:49.250 --> 01:17:49.940
then I'm

1650
01:17:49.940 --> 01:17:53.780
going to have a little bit of a load.

1651
01:17:53.780 --> 01:17:57.440
That's what shifts it into the ball to foot, but without engaging the vertebra

1652
01:17:57.440 --> 01:17:58.060
versus it's

1653
01:17:58.060 --> 01:18:01.140
starting to go into right side bend kind of right away.

1654
01:18:01.140 --> 01:18:02.140
[inaudible]

1655
01:18:02.140 --> 01:18:10.740
Well, now I would say, so here, this is one of the tricky things I think with

1656
01:18:10.740 --> 01:18:12.740
the measurement

1657
01:18:12.740 --> 01:18:19.710
because this movement here is like helping to create some of this pelvis

1658
01:18:19.710 --> 01:18:21.260
movement here.

1659
01:18:21.260 --> 01:18:26.640
So you're going to see the pelvis move first, but I think that the movement is

1660
01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:28.020
being originated

1661
01:18:28.020 --> 01:18:29.660
from the spine.

1662
01:18:29.660 --> 01:18:30.660
[inaudible]

1663
01:18:30.660 --> 01:18:39.500
Well, so the measurements will happen at the ground before it comes here.

1664
01:18:39.500 --> 01:18:45.390
So does everyone know what the TVA is, transverse abdominis, your deepest ab

1665
01:18:45.390 --> 01:18:46.260
muscle?

1666
01:18:46.260 --> 01:18:49.620
It's like a weight belt that wraps around this way.

1667
01:18:49.620 --> 01:18:54.470
So when they look at back pain, there's a system of evaluating the TVA where

1668
01:18:54.470 --> 01:18:55.300
basically

1669
01:18:55.300 --> 01:18:59.940
you're laying on the table and the therapist has his hand on your core and your

1670
01:18:59.940 --> 01:19:00.340
TVA and

1671
01:19:00.340 --> 01:19:04.420
basically they're asking you, okay, move your leg, move your other leg, move

1672
01:19:04.420 --> 01:19:05.060
your arm,

1673
01:19:05.060 --> 01:19:06.060
move your neck.

1674
01:19:06.060 --> 01:19:11.280
Basically, the test is before I move anything else, this should fire first.

1675
01:19:11.280 --> 01:19:18.660
So if I want to push against the ground, then I need to activate my core first.

1676
01:19:18.660 --> 01:19:25.900
Like if this is all, if this is all like loose and I try to push, it should be.

1677
01:19:25.900 --> 01:19:26.900
That's why they test it.

1678
01:19:26.900 --> 01:19:30.900
And when it's not reflective, you have back pain.

1679
01:19:30.900 --> 01:19:33.660
So it should be, it shouldn't be something that you have to keep, but it might

1680
01:19:33.660 --> 01:19:34.300
be something

1681
01:19:34.300 --> 01:19:37.140
that you'll feel when we're doing some of these hands on drills.

1682
01:19:37.140 --> 01:19:40.390
You'll kind of be like, wow, he just, like I'll tell you what you feel a lot is

1683
01:19:40.390 --> 01:19:40.820
you'll

1684
01:19:40.820 --> 01:19:44.270
go up there and like everything is tight and there's no motion, like there's no

1685
01:19:44.270 --> 01:19:44.860
mobility,

1686
01:19:44.860 --> 01:19:48.020
there's no fluidity of it.

1687
01:19:48.020 --> 01:19:49.020
Okay.

1688
01:19:49.020 --> 01:19:53.500
So how do you know if it's firing or not?

1689
01:19:53.500 --> 01:20:00.470
That's a much deeper, like a statement I always make is there are two scenarios

1690
01:20:00.470 --> 01:20:00.860
.

1691
01:20:00.860 --> 01:20:03.500
You have a bad back who's trying to play golf or you have a bad golf swing that

1692
01:20:03.500 --> 01:20:03.860
causes

1693
01:20:03.860 --> 01:20:04.860
back pain.

1694
01:20:04.860 --> 01:20:09.560
And that's really the bucket you're trying to figure out is like, is your back

1695
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:10.100
pain because

1696
01:20:10.100 --> 01:20:14.980
of golf or is it just, I have a bad back because of other things, but I also

1697
01:20:14.980 --> 01:20:15.860
play golf and

1698
01:20:15.860 --> 01:20:18.780
that puts a high load on it.

1699
01:20:18.780 --> 01:20:20.620
Does that make sense?

1700
01:20:20.620 --> 01:20:22.580
But we might be able to talk about it.

1701
01:20:22.580 --> 01:20:23.580
We'll see.

1702
01:20:23.580 --> 01:20:25.020
This is, this is staying longer than I thought it would.

1703
01:20:25.020 --> 01:20:38.940
So this is, again, when I have it broken down into prepare and load, I would

1704
01:20:38.940 --> 01:20:40.620
put that as

1705
01:20:40.620 --> 01:20:44.020
they've already started their downswing.

1706
01:20:44.020 --> 01:20:48.710
So there's terminology, like that's one of the challenges of the 3D world is

1707
01:20:48.710 --> 01:20:49.060
what's the

1708
01:20:49.060 --> 01:20:50.060
top of the swing?

1709
01:20:50.060 --> 01:20:53.250
Is it when the club changes direction or is it when the pelvis changes

1710
01:20:53.250 --> 01:20:53.620
direction?

1711
01:20:53.620 --> 01:20:57.380
Like rob-neal system measures it when the pelvis changes direction, TPI system

1712
01:20:57.380 --> 01:20:57.860
measures

1713
01:20:57.860 --> 01:20:59.500
it when the club changes direction.

1714
01:20:59.500 --> 01:21:06.620
So if you look at the timing of the graphs in transition, they'll be different.

1715
01:21:06.620 --> 01:21:11.800
But yes, I'm trying to simplify it partly because it's complex enough that I

1716
01:21:11.800 --> 01:21:12.460
don't even

1717
01:21:12.460 --> 01:21:18.220
know if I could draw exactly where it's starting, but I know that the trans,

1718
01:21:18.220 --> 01:21:19.700
like this movement

1719
01:21:19.700 --> 01:21:24.410
of like, this is part of, the translation is part of how you spike the ground

1720
01:21:24.410 --> 01:21:24.980
force under

1721
01:21:24.980 --> 01:21:27.500
the lead foot by arm parallel.

1722
01:21:27.500 --> 01:21:28.500
Right?

1723
01:21:28.500 --> 01:21:35.470
Yeah, so one of the most, like from a training standpoint, I wouldn't say that

1724
01:21:35.470 --> 01:21:36.980
this is something

1725
01:21:36.980 --> 01:21:40.630
you coached, but from a training standpoint, one of the most important things

1726
01:21:40.630 --> 01:21:41.260
for the left

1727
01:21:41.260 --> 01:21:45.780
leg is the movement of the patella, of the left knee.

1728
01:21:45.780 --> 01:21:53.590
The ability of it to basically like slide over the knee joint and then back,

1729
01:21:53.590 --> 01:21:54.380
right?

1730
01:21:54.380 --> 01:22:00.580
To be able to do that is like really fluid patella movement more so than like

1731
01:22:00.580 --> 01:22:01.580
what's happening

1732
01:22:01.580 --> 01:22:02.940
in the lead hip.

1733
01:22:02.940 --> 01:22:07.960
I kind of think like people love the key in on internal rotation of the lead

1734
01:22:07.960 --> 01:22:09.460
hip is like,

1735
01:22:09.460 --> 01:22:14.160
you know, if you don't have that, like everything's bad, I think that gets over

1736
01:22:14.160 --> 01:22:15.340
blown, overdone.

1737
01:22:15.340 --> 01:22:20.560
But I think the movement of the left knee gets underdone because yeah, that

1738
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:21.620
kind of feeling

1739
01:22:21.620 --> 01:22:27.970
there that also has some of the feeling of like the rhythm of transition where

1740
01:22:27.970 --> 01:22:28.740
it's really

1741
01:22:28.740 --> 01:22:34.160
hard to do that like aggressively and a lot of students feel like they're

1742
01:22:34.160 --> 01:22:35.340
creating a ton

1743
01:22:35.340 --> 01:22:40.630
of tension and like pulling down and kind of creating a lot of the force too

1744
01:22:40.630 --> 01:22:41.340
early in

1745
01:22:41.340 --> 01:22:43.500
the downswing.

1746
01:22:43.500 --> 01:22:46.100
And this translation move is like an anti-tension move.

1747
01:22:46.100 --> 01:22:54.380
So does your left knee go in the same line as your toe because your left toe?

1748
01:22:54.380 --> 01:22:59.180
It depends.

1749
01:22:59.180 --> 01:23:02.630
I don't think that's a bad starting point to see where it's going, but I'm

1750
01:23:02.630 --> 01:23:03.300
still going

1751
01:23:03.300 --> 01:23:11.180
to say like depends like if it's big toe, second toe, third toe, it potentially

1752
01:23:11.180 --> 01:23:11.740
like

1753
01:23:11.740 --> 01:23:18.340
and that's where Mike Duffy was talking about different swing styles,

1754
01:23:18.340 --> 01:23:19.860
potentially if you

1755
01:23:19.860 --> 01:23:24.040
had more of a like a front post style golfer, I don't love those terms, but if

1756
01:23:24.040 --> 01:23:24.740
you had more

1757
01:23:24.740 --> 01:23:27.520
of a front post style or a rear post, you might have it going in slightly

1758
01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:28.060
different

1759
01:23:28.060 --> 01:23:33.620
directions to build the same tension.

1760
01:23:33.620 --> 01:23:38.980
But the important thing is when we do this, we can like, it's complex, there's

1761
01:23:38.980 --> 01:23:39.460
lots of

1762
01:23:39.460 --> 01:23:40.460
different answers.

1763
01:23:40.460 --> 01:23:44.220
If you fall for in front of you, it's easier, there's like one more clear

1764
01:23:44.220 --> 01:23:44.860
answer.

1765
01:23:44.860 --> 01:23:46.580
Does that make sense?

1766
01:23:46.580 --> 01:23:50.500
So I'll always have a hard time answering those questions.

1767
01:23:50.500 --> 01:23:56.780
Excuse me Tyler, can you come back on the use of the foot with your upper body?

1768
01:23:56.780 --> 01:24:00.100
Well so that's where the feeling of falling, right?

1769
01:24:00.100 --> 01:24:05.320
If I was to like totally unweight that, then when I do this little translation

1770
01:24:05.320 --> 01:24:06.660
which I originally

1771
01:24:06.660 --> 01:24:11.690
kind of called more of a left crunch, but I kind of like the translation term

1772
01:24:11.690 --> 01:24:12.220
better.

1773
01:24:12.220 --> 01:24:16.910
So when you do that movement, it feels very much like I'm getting ready to jump

1774
01:24:16.910 --> 01:24:17.260
, like

1775
01:24:17.260 --> 01:24:19.380
it feels like that movement there.

1776
01:24:19.380 --> 01:24:21.420
It's just on a slight angle.

1777
01:24:21.420 --> 01:24:24.180
But you're alone with your upper body a little?

1778
01:24:24.180 --> 01:24:25.180
Yes.

1779
01:24:25.180 --> 01:24:28.660
With your spine, your flexion, your nobody.

1780
01:24:28.660 --> 01:24:34.100
So if I was like up against the wall here, right?

1781
01:24:34.100 --> 01:24:40.420
I can push against my foot to move my upper body that way, right?

1782
01:24:40.420 --> 01:24:43.420
So my foot would read, I pushed with my foot.

1783
01:24:43.420 --> 01:24:46.840
That's where the force plate guys are right, yeah I'm pushing with my right

1784
01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:47.260
foot.

1785
01:24:47.260 --> 01:24:51.970
But I feel like I'm doing this more from my, like I'm pushing into it with my

1786
01:24:51.970 --> 01:24:52.660
shoulder.

1787
01:24:52.660 --> 01:24:55.620
Does that make sense?

1788
01:24:55.620 --> 01:24:59.420
If you told me standing in this position, push with my foot and I didn't know

1789
01:24:59.420 --> 01:25:00.260
what you meant,

1790
01:25:00.260 --> 01:25:04.220
I would probably just do this, and this thing's not moving.

1791
01:25:04.220 --> 01:25:08.140
But if I said, hey push that over, you would see my foot graph go way up.

1792
01:25:08.140 --> 01:25:10.140
Does that make sense?

1793
01:25:10.140 --> 01:25:13.140
Thank you.

1794
01:25:13.140 --> 01:25:14.140
Yeah.

1795
01:25:14.140 --> 01:25:18.020
That's also when I try to explain pressure versus weight.

1796
01:25:18.020 --> 01:25:22.460
That's one of the ways I got that from Andreas Collie.

1797
01:25:22.460 --> 01:25:28.020
He's a European coach, very good.

1798
01:25:28.020 --> 01:25:34.990
Okay, so we did the foot, the knee has, so we're landing into the ball of the

1799
01:25:34.990 --> 01:25:35.820
foot.

1800
01:25:35.820 --> 01:25:40.790
If anything, this one's less about the navicular cuboid, it's more about it

1801
01:25:40.790 --> 01:25:42.140
kind of like going

1802
01:25:42.140 --> 01:25:47.740
towards supination or kind of the foot rolling slightly like this, but it's

1803
01:25:47.740 --> 01:25:48.860
going to land

1804
01:25:48.860 --> 01:25:52.980
in the ball of the foot into kind of that ready position, yeah?

1805
01:25:52.980 --> 01:25:57.540
And when you do that, the kneecap is sliding up above the knee.

1806
01:25:57.540 --> 01:26:00.020
That's an important movement of the knee.

1807
01:26:00.020 --> 01:26:05.550
But again, I think that's more like for most of your golfers, that never comes

1808
01:26:05.550 --> 01:26:05.900
up.

1809
01:26:05.900 --> 01:26:09.440
But if you're working with a tour pro and he's asking you, like, hand

1810
01:26:09.440 --> 01:26:10.580
transition just kind

1811
01:26:10.580 --> 01:26:15.180
of, it feels a little sticky, like it doesn't feel like fluid.

1812
01:26:15.180 --> 01:26:17.020
What can I do in the gym?

1813
01:26:17.020 --> 01:26:20.210
That's where you could, well, you know, you could talk to your trainer or maybe

1814
01:26:20.210 --> 01:26:20.620
your kneecap

1815
01:26:20.620 --> 01:26:24.460
is a little stuck.

1816
01:26:24.460 --> 01:26:29.170
But that's never one, like, you're not going to fix that on the lesson tee

1817
01:26:29.170 --> 01:26:30.020
because you're

1818
01:26:30.020 --> 01:26:33.820
not going to say, hey, move your kneecap differently, right?

1819
01:26:33.820 --> 01:26:37.420
But it's something to be aware of as part of the pivot.

1820
01:26:37.420 --> 01:26:40.610
I think the thing that you'll be able to do a lot with is the translation

1821
01:26:40.610 --> 01:26:41.700
movement and

1822
01:26:41.700 --> 01:26:45.700
kind of like getting into the ball of that lead foot.

1823
01:26:45.700 --> 01:26:50.700
So once you're in your negative torsion, well, so I was in negative torsion.

1824
01:26:50.700 --> 01:26:54.880
I get into positive fort torsion as I'm going into translation, but we, so we

1825
01:26:54.880 --> 01:26:55.500
'll jump up

1826
01:26:55.500 --> 01:26:56.700
to the spine.

1827
01:26:56.700 --> 01:26:58.540
So I was in negative torsion.

1828
01:26:58.540 --> 01:27:03.420
Now I'm in positive torsion as I've loaded that, that foot.

1829
01:27:03.420 --> 01:27:07.180
And then I'm going to go back into negative torsion the other way.

1830
01:27:07.180 --> 01:27:10.980
Oh, that's again, negative torsion because it's around the spine.

1831
01:27:10.980 --> 01:27:11.980
Yeah.

1832
01:27:11.980 --> 01:27:15.610
So I'm like, negative torsion, positive torsion, negative torsion, it's kind of

1833
01:27:15.610 --> 01:27:16.100
more like

1834
01:27:16.100 --> 01:27:17.100
that movement.

1835
01:27:17.100 --> 01:27:18.100
Oh.

1836
01:27:18.100 --> 01:27:19.100
It's a terminology question.

1837
01:27:19.100 --> 01:27:20.100
What gets translated?

1838
01:27:20.100 --> 01:27:22.740
You talk about translation, what is translation?

1839
01:27:22.740 --> 01:27:25.460
This is lumbar translation.

1840
01:27:25.460 --> 01:27:31.680
So the lumbar, vertebra are kind of going like this instead of like this would

1841
01:27:31.680 --> 01:27:32.380
be more

1842
01:27:32.380 --> 01:27:35.140
like side bend.

1843
01:27:35.140 --> 01:27:39.980
This has like, and I'm correct.

1844
01:27:39.980 --> 01:27:43.260
And now the tricky thing is it's really about that much.

1845
01:27:43.260 --> 01:27:47.410
It's not, I'm trying to like exaggerate it to demonstrate, but the difference

1846
01:27:47.410 --> 01:27:47.940
between

1847
01:27:47.940 --> 01:27:52.820
there and there is look, they're not crazy dissimilar.

1848
01:27:52.820 --> 01:27:58.460
And that's why I think on 3D, like this gets missed.

1849
01:27:58.460 --> 01:28:00.420
Because at the same time, it's kind of going like this.

1850
01:28:00.420 --> 01:28:06.640
So how do I, you know, how do I know it wasn't like that to get this forward

1851
01:28:06.640 --> 01:28:07.540
versus that

1852
01:28:07.540 --> 01:28:10.180
or is it tricky?

1853
01:28:10.180 --> 01:28:14.900
And that's why I don't think it's been talked about a lot.

1854
01:28:14.900 --> 01:28:22.300
But yes, though, so the spine, negative torsion, positive torsion, negative t

1855
01:28:22.300 --> 01:28:23.140
orsion, with a

1856
01:28:23.140 --> 01:28:28.980
little bit of side bend.

1857
01:28:28.980 --> 01:28:29.980
It'll feel...

1858
01:28:29.980 --> 01:28:34.690
I'm sorry, positive torsion is going to look like you're spine is rounded this

1859
01:28:34.690 --> 01:28:35.220
way.

1860
01:28:35.220 --> 01:28:36.220
Yeah.

1861
01:28:36.220 --> 01:28:37.220
That's the turtle shell.

1862
01:28:37.220 --> 01:28:38.220
Flex as opposed to the tendon shell.

1863
01:28:38.220 --> 01:28:40.420
That's why I call it the turtle shell.

1864
01:28:40.420 --> 01:28:48.630
If the side bend come from the lateral of the hip from the pelvis, or is it

1865
01:28:48.630 --> 01:28:49.820
more than

1866
01:28:49.820 --> 01:28:52.900
it can be separate?

1867
01:28:52.900 --> 01:28:58.060
If I had to pick a more, I would say it's more coming from the shoulder blade.

1868
01:28:58.060 --> 01:29:02.270
It's more coming from the shoulder blade trying to slide around the rib cage

1869
01:29:02.270 --> 01:29:03.100
kind of down

1870
01:29:03.100 --> 01:29:09.740
and around like this, rather than just doing it from the pelvis.

1871
01:29:09.740 --> 01:29:13.530
And that's why you'll see some people who have a ton of slide and buckle have

1872
01:29:13.530 --> 01:29:14.340
the shoulder

1873
01:29:14.340 --> 01:29:20.370
blade really high, where it'd be really hard to have that movement and have

1874
01:29:20.370 --> 01:29:21.620
that movement

1875
01:29:21.620 --> 01:29:25.860
and not like chunk hook it.

1876
01:29:25.860 --> 01:29:28.860
Okay.

1877
01:29:28.860 --> 01:29:36.540
So we talked when I'm jumping ahead, I said what the scapula is going to do.

1878
01:29:36.540 --> 01:29:39.220
Let's go back to the hip.

1879
01:29:39.220 --> 01:29:46.060
So the hip, right one's pretty easy, what's it going to do?

1880
01:29:46.060 --> 01:29:52.060
Yeah, so it was in relative internal rotation.

1881
01:29:52.060 --> 01:29:54.860
It's going to have a little bit of external rotation.

1882
01:29:54.860 --> 01:29:58.860
What about the lead hip?

1883
01:29:58.860 --> 01:30:01.540
It's going to send an internal rotate back.

1884
01:30:01.540 --> 01:30:04.020
Absolutely relative.

1885
01:30:04.020 --> 01:30:06.500
Relatively what?

1886
01:30:06.500 --> 01:30:14.710
So in anatomy language, absolute would be like, okay, so if I start with my arm

1887
01:30:14.710 --> 01:30:15.380
here,

1888
01:30:15.380 --> 01:30:21.350
if I raise my arm up, this would be absolute adduction, where I'm lifting the

1889
01:30:21.350 --> 01:30:22.100
arm away

1890
01:30:22.100 --> 01:30:23.700
from the body.

1891
01:30:23.700 --> 01:30:27.810
This would be relative adduction, where I got the same movement because the

1892
01:30:27.810 --> 01:30:28.500
body moved

1893
01:30:28.500 --> 01:30:30.300
away from the arm.

1894
01:30:30.300 --> 01:30:35.780
So basically, this would be absolute internal rotation, but I could be trying

1895
01:30:35.780 --> 01:30:36.500
to go that

1896
01:30:36.500 --> 01:30:40.100
way and rotate this faster, and I would have more of a relative internal

1897
01:30:40.100 --> 01:30:40.780
rotation.

1898
01:30:40.780 --> 01:30:41.780
Relative.

1899
01:30:41.780 --> 01:30:42.780
Relative.

1900
01:30:42.780 --> 01:30:46.020
So show me the absolute internal next line.

1901
01:30:46.020 --> 01:30:51.310
Yeah, all the answers are on the next slide, but that's why we're talking

1902
01:30:51.310 --> 01:30:52.260
through it on

1903
01:30:52.260 --> 01:30:53.260
this slide.

1904
01:30:53.260 --> 01:31:00.230
So relative would be basically like, I'm turning the leg in, or sorry, absolute

1905
01:31:00.230 --> 01:31:00.860
would be, I'm

1906
01:31:00.860 --> 01:31:04.890
turning the leg in, absolute would be this, and then relative would be, I'm

1907
01:31:04.890 --> 01:31:05.620
turning my

1908
01:31:05.620 --> 01:31:11.850
body into it, and I could do relative while it's going that way, but it's still

1909
01:31:11.850 --> 01:31:12.880
an internal

1910
01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:13.880
rotation.

1911
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:17.970
Like the hip, I would say the hip is trying to externally rotate, but it never

1912
01:31:17.970 --> 01:31:18.740
gets there,

1913
01:31:18.740 --> 01:31:19.740
and that's where I...

1914
01:31:19.740 --> 01:31:25.260
Because the body is passing it, yeah.

1915
01:31:25.260 --> 01:31:30.340
So that's where measurement wise, when, you know, I used to fight more of the

1916
01:31:30.340 --> 01:31:30.980
people who

1917
01:31:30.980 --> 01:31:35.690
would say like dual external rotation, because if you really did like dual

1918
01:31:35.690 --> 01:31:37.180
external rotation,

1919
01:31:37.180 --> 01:31:38.500
your pelvis wouldn't move.

1920
01:31:38.500 --> 01:31:39.500
It would stay pointing this way.

1921
01:31:39.500 --> 01:31:41.060
There wouldn't be any rotation.

1922
01:31:41.060 --> 01:31:45.930
I think more of that has, like, that look has to do with what's happening with

1923
01:31:45.930 --> 01:31:46.660
that left

1924
01:31:46.660 --> 01:31:51.570
foot going into supination, because the hip is definitely going into internal

1925
01:31:51.570 --> 01:31:52.460
rotation.

1926
01:31:52.460 --> 01:31:55.500
Does that make sense?

1927
01:31:55.500 --> 01:32:00.340
But I think it's not like, it's not going in the opposite direction.

1928
01:32:00.340 --> 01:32:03.060
It's going towards the target.

1929
01:32:03.060 --> 01:32:04.060
That's the...

1930
01:32:04.060 --> 01:32:10.260
Your lead leg needs to firm up a little bit in order to get into that rotation.

1931
01:32:10.260 --> 01:32:12.900
What do you mean, firm up?

1932
01:32:12.900 --> 01:32:17.460
Yeah, so where does that...

1933
01:32:17.460 --> 01:32:20.140
Where does it get firmed up?

1934
01:32:20.140 --> 01:32:23.140
I think it starts at the foot.

1935
01:32:23.140 --> 01:32:24.140
Starts at the foot.

1936
01:32:24.140 --> 01:32:27.260
What else?

1937
01:32:27.260 --> 01:32:30.180
What else firms up that leg?

1938
01:32:30.180 --> 01:32:31.180
And I want to just pick...

1939
01:32:31.180 --> 01:32:32.180
Anyone else?

1940
01:32:32.180 --> 01:32:33.180
What?

1941
01:32:33.180 --> 01:32:37.040
The knee internally rotates as well.

1942
01:32:37.040 --> 01:32:38.540
You mean externally rotate?

1943
01:32:38.540 --> 01:32:40.580
Well, no, I meant internally rotate.

1944
01:32:40.580 --> 01:32:41.580
Good.

1945
01:32:41.580 --> 01:32:42.940
Internally rotates with the...

1946
01:32:42.940 --> 01:32:45.540
It's a relative internal rotation with the hip.

1947
01:32:45.540 --> 01:32:49.060
That's not a movement that's sent in the left foot.

1948
01:32:49.060 --> 01:32:50.060
What...

1949
01:32:50.060 --> 01:32:51.060
What...

1950
01:32:51.060 --> 01:32:52.060
This is more of a...

1951
01:32:52.060 --> 01:32:53.340
All right, golf question.

1952
01:32:53.340 --> 01:32:56.530
If your student has more of kind of like a buckle like this, what gets them to

1953
01:32:56.530 --> 01:32:57.060
straighten

1954
01:32:57.060 --> 01:32:58.060
it?

1955
01:32:58.060 --> 01:33:03.300
Pressure into the ground pushing to the ground.

1956
01:33:03.300 --> 01:33:04.300
Okay.

1957
01:33:04.300 --> 01:33:05.300
Probably.

1958
01:33:05.300 --> 01:33:06.300
That's probably the measurement.

1959
01:33:06.300 --> 01:33:08.000
And that's a standard kind of golf answer.

1960
01:33:08.000 --> 01:33:15.220
I mean, maybe, but no.

1961
01:33:15.220 --> 01:33:16.220
Somewhere else.

1962
01:33:16.220 --> 01:33:17.220
Higher up.

1963
01:33:17.220 --> 01:33:19.440
What's the spine do?

1964
01:33:19.440 --> 01:33:20.440
Yeah.

1965
01:33:20.440 --> 01:33:23.840
And the extension of the spine.

1966
01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:24.840
The negative torsion.

1967
01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:28.850
So basically, if I'm in this position and then the spine starts to go into

1968
01:33:28.850 --> 01:33:29.740
extension,

1969
01:33:29.740 --> 01:33:32.200
that takes the leg into extension.

1970
01:33:32.200 --> 01:33:36.400
If this stays down, it's not like they're just like snapping.

1971
01:33:36.400 --> 01:33:40.550
If I go into negative torsion, kind of explosively, that foot is going to

1972
01:33:40.550 --> 01:33:41.880
follow the spine and

1973
01:33:41.880 --> 01:33:43.640
go backward.

1974
01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:47.250
But if I was like staying flex like this and I just tried to like jump backward

1975
01:33:47.250 --> 01:33:47.920
by pushing

1976
01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:52.100
the foot backward, like that doesn't really do anything.

1977
01:33:52.100 --> 01:33:55.750
So a big part of what firms it up is I translated so I'm far enough ahead so

1978
01:33:55.750 --> 01:33:56.560
that when I go

1979
01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:00.520
into that extension, that negative torsion, my low point is still forward.

1980
01:34:00.520 --> 01:34:05.810
If I was back here and I tried to go into that negative torsion, my low point's

1981
01:34:05.810 --> 01:34:06.560
terrible

1982
01:34:06.560 --> 01:34:08.640
and I probably shake it.

1983
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:10.680
I demonstrate that one a lot.

1984
01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:11.680
A fat shank.

1985
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:12.680
Does that make sense?

1986
01:34:12.680 --> 01:34:13.680
Yeah.

1987
01:34:13.680 --> 01:34:20.650
I have asked you on the website about to transition because it feels like you

1988
01:34:20.650 --> 01:34:22.160
're leaving like

1989
01:34:22.160 --> 01:34:23.360
external rotation.

1990
01:34:23.360 --> 01:34:24.360
Yes.

1991
01:34:24.360 --> 01:34:27.160
But you're actually in the internal rotation.

1992
01:34:27.160 --> 01:34:28.160
Correct.

1993
01:34:28.160 --> 01:34:41.800
And I am fine with feels that are wrong, like completely wrong.

1994
01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:46.490
I know Ernie L's won the U.S. Open feeling like he did that from the top of

1995
01:34:46.490 --> 01:34:47.000
this one.

1996
01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:50.490
I'm fine with feels that are wrong, I'm just, I'm kind of picky about

1997
01:34:50.490 --> 01:34:51.560
descriptions that

1998
01:34:51.560 --> 01:34:52.560
are too wrong.

1999
01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:54.160
Does that make sense?

2000
01:34:54.160 --> 01:34:55.160
Does that make sense?

2001
01:34:55.160 --> 01:34:56.160
Yeah.

2002
01:34:56.160 --> 01:34:57.160
Yeah.

2003
01:34:57.160 --> 01:35:00.640
Does this discussion help clarify what I meant on the website?

2004
01:35:00.640 --> 01:35:01.640
Exactly.

2005
01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:03.400
You can see why I didn't.

2006
01:35:03.400 --> 01:35:06.400
It's kind of a funny answer, but I've got it.

2007
01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:07.400
Okay.

2008
01:35:07.400 --> 01:35:10.000
Two of your time left before was your upper body.

2009
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:11.000
The spine.

2010
01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:12.000
Spine.

2011
01:35:12.000 --> 01:35:13.680
Yeah.

2012
01:35:13.680 --> 01:35:18.560
That's going to create the firmness of the lead leg.

2013
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.750
We can, I'm sure there will be somebody who has a little bit of a buckle and we

2014
01:35:21.750 --> 01:35:22.040
're going

2015
01:35:22.040 --> 01:35:27.120
to fix that with the rib cage.

2016
01:35:27.120 --> 01:35:28.120
Yeah.

2017
01:35:28.120 --> 01:35:31.960
That's the, one of the encouraging thing is who here has something in their

2018
01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:32.480
swing that

2019
01:35:32.480 --> 01:35:37.320
they hate the look of it.

2020
01:35:37.320 --> 01:35:42.000
So you are going to walk away from this class knowing how to change that look

2021
01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:42.280
and having

2022
01:35:42.280 --> 01:35:44.400
the decision of do I want to do it.

2023
01:35:44.400 --> 01:35:48.360
And I'm, I'm, most of you are going to say yes, but yeah, you're going to know

2024
01:35:48.360 --> 01:35:48.680
how to

2025
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:49.680
change that look.

2026
01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:50.680
Yeah.

2027
01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:56.320
Yeah.

2028
01:35:56.320 --> 01:36:01.680
That way I don't have to say, you know, that's where you're kind of exactly.

2029
01:36:01.680 --> 01:36:02.680
Yeah.

2030
01:36:02.680 --> 01:36:03.680
Okay.

2031
01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:10.000
Uh, scapula, I already showed that one, but the, the right side, scapula is the

2032
01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:10.840
shoulder

2033
01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:11.840
blade.

2034
01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:14.680
Um, the shoulder blade retracted at the top.

2035
01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:19.390
It's going to continue retracting and then about halfway down as it starts to

2036
01:36:19.390 --> 01:36:19.920
deliver,

2037
01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:23.440
it's going to slide along the rib cage kind of like this ideally.

2038
01:36:23.440 --> 01:36:26.640
And the lead one is not going to follow it.

2039
01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:31.800
It's going to get, have basically the ribs pulling away from it.

2040
01:36:31.800 --> 01:36:35.480
So it's actually doing this, but a relative movement.

2041
01:36:35.480 --> 01:36:40.040
It's doing more of an elevation and protection, but a relative movement.

2042
01:36:40.040 --> 01:36:47.680
So it's not really going like this, more this is pulling out of the way.

2043
01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:55.200
And then the arms, what they're swinging, they're just following.

2044
01:36:55.200 --> 01:37:01.640
Um, so the ideally, the lead one is going into some internal rotation.

2045
01:37:01.640 --> 01:37:07.310
The trail one went into some external rotation early, but then you basically

2046
01:37:07.310 --> 01:37:09.040
run out of capability.

2047
01:37:09.040 --> 01:37:13.740
So it starts going into internal rotation on the way through or during the

2048
01:37:13.740 --> 01:37:14.120
release.

2049
01:37:14.120 --> 01:37:20.740
So like on a hack motion, you see two types of supination, you know, some

2050
01:37:20.740 --> 01:37:21.760
players supinate

2051
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:24.880
like that to the ball and then some actually.

2052
01:37:24.880 --> 01:37:29.960
Well hack motion is measuring a global movement, not a relative movement.

2053
01:37:29.960 --> 01:37:33.280
So hack motion is basically measuring where this is in space.

2054
01:37:33.280 --> 01:37:36.960
So if I went like this and I went like that, it would measure that I supinated

2055
01:37:36.960 --> 01:37:39.000
because

2056
01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:41.760
it moved.

2057
01:37:41.760 --> 01:37:47.050
But if I went here and I went like that, it would graph differently than if I

2058
01:37:47.050 --> 01:37:47.800
went like

2059
01:37:47.800 --> 01:37:48.800
that.

2060
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:49.800
Okay.

2061
01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.960
Is there anybody left arm that's actually going like this?

2062
01:37:52.960 --> 01:37:53.960
No.

2063
01:37:53.960 --> 01:37:55.960
Everyone's supinated?

2064
01:37:55.960 --> 01:37:56.960
Yeah.

2065
01:37:56.960 --> 01:38:07.200
Even like a, um, I mean, let, uh, no.

2066
01:38:07.200 --> 01:38:11.600
I would like, I can't, I haven't seen data on everybody.

2067
01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:16.300
And I, I question a little bit how I think this segment would actually be

2068
01:38:16.300 --> 01:38:17.760
fairly accurate.

2069
01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:25.130
Um, anatomically, like you are, if you are stronger in pulling when the, the

2070
01:38:25.130 --> 01:38:26.080
bones are

2071
01:38:26.080 --> 01:38:29.880
in a super, super needed position than when they're in a pronated position.

2072
01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:34.890
And so I think that's a big part of why we're getting into this, this position

2073
01:38:34.890 --> 01:38:35.560
so that I

2074
01:38:35.560 --> 01:38:38.640
can create more force away.

2075
01:38:38.640 --> 01:38:44.720
I have this on the left, I think it's like the players, bones are at birth.

2076
01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:45.720
So they, they can't.

2077
01:38:45.720 --> 01:38:47.200
So he can't do this.

2078
01:38:47.200 --> 01:38:48.200
Correct.

2079
01:38:48.200 --> 01:38:49.200
He can do it.

2080
01:38:49.200 --> 01:38:50.200
Yes.

2081
01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:51.280
Uh, a whole or he can do a little bit in the rest.

2082
01:38:51.280 --> 01:38:52.280
Yeah.

2083
01:38:52.280 --> 01:38:56.400
So how do you teach that person to think Tim Clark?

2084
01:38:56.400 --> 01:39:01.080
Tim Clark is the model for great ball striker who had that same birth.

2085
01:39:01.080 --> 01:39:06.940
I've, I've had a handful, but yeah, Tim Clark, just find him on YouTube, um,

2086
01:39:06.940 --> 01:39:08.040
typically going

2087
01:39:08.040 --> 01:39:11.080
to be almost a little bit more of like a butterfly grip.

2088
01:39:11.080 --> 01:39:15.770
Um, and you'll have to be a little bit more like lenient as far as like some,

2089
01:39:15.770 --> 01:39:16.200
some elbow

2090
01:39:16.200 --> 01:39:21.480
bend and stuff like that, but the, the trickier thing is speed.

2091
01:39:21.480 --> 01:39:22.880
Tim Clark wasn't the longest hitter.

2092
01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:23.880
Right.

2093
01:39:23.880 --> 01:39:24.880
I haven't seen a model.

2094
01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:26.880
Somebody who did it.

2095
01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:27.880
Yeah.

2096
01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:28.880
Um.

2097
01:39:28.880 --> 01:39:29.880
Yeah.

2098
01:39:29.880 --> 01:39:30.880
Yeah.

2099
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:33.520
But you'll see, you'll see that if you coach long enough, you will, you'll come

2100
01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:33.840
across

2101
01:39:33.840 --> 01:39:35.840
somebody who they're like, I can't do this.

2102
01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:38.600
They're like this, it'll be like that.

2103
01:39:38.600 --> 01:39:40.960
That's as much as they can super meet.

2104
01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:41.960
Yep.

2105
01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:46.840
You say, wait a minute, but you ain't going to drive, you don't know, but he

2106
01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:47.000
has to say

2107
01:39:47.000 --> 01:39:50.000
he's got the one.

2108
01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:51.000
Ah.

2109
01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:52.000
See?

2110
01:39:52.000 --> 01:39:53.000
Yeah.

2111
01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:54.400
But his right one was good.

2112
01:39:54.400 --> 01:39:55.400
His right one was good.

2113
01:39:55.400 --> 01:39:57.360
It was just the left.

2114
01:39:57.360 --> 01:40:00.320
Well, yeah, that's more normal.

2115
01:40:00.320 --> 01:40:03.600
I've never had one where it was just once.

2116
01:40:03.600 --> 01:40:04.600
Yeah.

2117
01:40:04.600 --> 01:40:05.600
Yeah.

2118
01:40:05.600 --> 01:40:09.640
It was just the left one and the right one was good because he wanted, how old

2119
01:40:09.640 --> 01:40:10.200
is he?

2120
01:40:10.200 --> 01:40:11.200
Oh, okay.

2121
01:40:11.200 --> 01:40:15.440
I was like, if he's a kid, I might switch him and have him play lefty.

2122
01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:19.490
I could, that'd be easier to work around, but, um, the main thing, I would

2123
01:40:19.490 --> 01:40:20.640
probably strengthen

2124
01:40:20.640 --> 01:40:24.120
the grip so that now it only has to get to there.

2125
01:40:24.120 --> 01:40:25.120
It doesn't.

2126
01:40:25.120 --> 01:40:26.120
Perfect.

2127
01:40:26.120 --> 01:40:27.120
See?

2128
01:40:27.120 --> 01:40:28.120
You're already there.

2129
01:40:28.120 --> 01:40:29.120
So Kyra, I just saw a video.

2130
01:40:29.120 --> 01:40:33.760
You're talking about a seated release on a, an S wedge.

2131
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:34.760
Yes?

2132
01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:35.760
What it looked like.

2133
01:40:35.760 --> 01:40:42.520
I'll be, so I'm, um, yes, I, I like to see more of this.

2134
01:40:42.520 --> 01:40:43.520
I don't love my swing.

2135
01:40:43.520 --> 01:40:47.300
I mean, there's stuff that I'll see on my swing and I'm like, I know exactly

2136
01:40:47.300 --> 01:40:47.560
why I'm

2137
01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:59.120
doing that if I hate that, um, so there, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

2138
01:40:59.120 --> 01:41:02.320
So this one is doing more of the internal rotation.

2139
01:41:02.320 --> 01:41:11.940
So the whole arm is like, there is, there is some like independent movement,

2140
01:41:11.940 --> 01:41:13.460
especially

2141
01:41:13.460 --> 01:41:16.650
when the arm is bent, like the forearm will move independent of the shoulder,

2142
01:41:16.650 --> 01:41:17.040
but when

2143
01:41:17.040 --> 01:41:23.400
the arms pretty straight, um, it's going to move more as one unit.

2144
01:41:23.400 --> 01:41:28.260
And so it'll typically want to do it more, like on the full swing release, you

2145
01:41:28.260 --> 01:41:28.720
'll do

2146
01:41:28.720 --> 01:41:33.920
it more from the forearm and then from the shoulder, um, but it, it'd be really

2147
01:41:33.920 --> 01:41:34.400
weird

2148
01:41:34.400 --> 01:41:39.140
to have them, um, aggressively moving in opposite directions.

2149
01:41:39.140 --> 01:41:40.680
Control wise, that's fine.

2150
01:41:40.680 --> 01:41:42.400
It built, it builds tension.

2151
01:41:42.400 --> 01:41:48.160
Um, so with the, like, with the full swing, we're going to see more of the, the

2152
01:41:48.160 --> 01:41:48.960
internal

2153
01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:49.960
rotation.

2154
01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:55.060
Um, with the finesse wedge, my main purpose there is that a lot of players will

2155
01:41:55.060 --> 01:41:56.040
do a steepening

2156
01:41:56.040 --> 01:42:00.040
movement past their body, kind of like this, um, which gives you a diggy

2157
01:42:00.040 --> 01:42:00.800
leading edge

2158
01:42:00.800 --> 01:42:01.800
contact.

2159
01:42:01.800 --> 01:42:06.510
Um, by getting more of that supination, ulnar deviation, you get the club a

2160
01:42:06.510 --> 01:42:07.400
little bit more

2161
01:42:07.400 --> 01:42:08.400
back there.

2162
01:42:08.400 --> 01:42:12.340
And then if you do some of that negative torsion, you get really good bounce

2163
01:42:12.340 --> 01:42:13.240
engagement.

2164
01:42:13.240 --> 01:42:22.520
So it's, it oftentimes a drill, we're trying to like avoid the bad move.

2165
01:42:22.520 --> 01:42:27.320
And I would say this would be the bad move that I'm trying to avoid, um, with

2166
01:42:27.320 --> 01:42:27.960
the lead

2167
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:28.960
arm release.

2168
01:42:28.960 --> 01:42:29.960
Right?

2169
01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:30.960
And we're going to, right?

2170
01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:31.960
So I tried it on the full swing.

2171
01:42:31.960 --> 01:42:32.960
It seemed to help.

2172
01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:33.960
All right.

2173
01:42:33.960 --> 01:42:35.520
We're going to do this.

2174
01:42:35.520 --> 01:42:39.180
I mean, we're going to go through, if you looked ahead, like I'm sure he did,

2175
01:42:39.180 --> 01:42:39.560
we're

2176
01:42:39.560 --> 01:42:43.410
going to go through the single arm drills with the, the finesse wedge, the

2177
01:42:43.410 --> 01:42:45.080
hopefully,

2178
01:42:45.080 --> 01:42:46.800
this one's taking longer than I thought.

2179
01:42:46.800 --> 01:42:50.440
But, um, I'm sure we'll be able to pick up or I have a really time-boxed

2180
01:42:50.440 --> 01:42:51.440
everything.

2181
01:42:51.440 --> 01:42:53.840
I'm just hoping that it's all going to align.

2182
01:42:53.840 --> 01:42:58.550
Um, but we'll, we'll go through single arm drills and everything kind of

2183
01:42:58.550 --> 01:42:59.200
working on the

2184
01:42:59.200 --> 01:43:00.560
different details of them.

2185
01:43:00.560 --> 01:43:03.750
We're going to, again, this first presentation is more, let's get on the same

2186
01:43:03.750 --> 01:43:04.200
page as far

2187
01:43:04.200 --> 01:43:06.800
as why we're even going to try to do these drills.

2188
01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:07.880
What are we trying to change?

2189
01:43:07.880 --> 01:43:09.640
Are we trying to change the launch monitor?

2190
01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:11.160
Are we trying to change the 3D?

2191
01:43:11.160 --> 01:43:12.960
Are we trying to change some of these fashion lines?

2192
01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:14.480
Like what are we trying to change?

2193
01:43:14.480 --> 01:43:16.840
Does that make sense?

2194
01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:18.560
Um, okay.

2195
01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:24.640
So as he said, I did give you the, the slide that has like the big bucket

2196
01:43:24.640 --> 01:43:26.000
answers as far

2197
01:43:26.000 --> 01:43:29.840
as what we were going through, but I wanted to talk through that.

2198
01:43:29.840 --> 01:43:36.130
Do the arms, like the lead arm, does it on the backside you're loading, does it

2199
01:43:36.130 --> 01:43:36.640
, does

2200
01:43:36.640 --> 01:43:41.840
it add ducts and then on the unloading it adds ducts or no?

2201
01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:44.640
It's, uh, slightly, probably.

2202
01:43:44.640 --> 01:43:49.520
Um, again, there's, there are some things that are a little trickier

2203
01:43:49.520 --> 01:43:51.360
measurement wise.

2204
01:43:51.360 --> 01:43:56.060
And when you're looking at it, you can't see if on most 3Ds, you can't see if

2205
01:43:56.060 --> 01:43:56.360
that was

2206
01:43:56.360 --> 01:43:59.120
shoulder blade movement or if it was arm movement.

2207
01:43:59.120 --> 01:44:03.330
Gears does it probably better as far as just looking at the arm where AMM, it's

2208
01:44:03.330 --> 01:44:03.960
going to

2209
01:44:03.960 --> 01:44:04.960
have both of them.

2210
01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:06.600
So there's just going to measure differently.

2211
01:44:06.600 --> 01:44:08.560
There'd be little.

2212
01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:13.240
I get to, I get a, I get worried if that gets too far around.

2213
01:44:13.240 --> 01:44:17.950
Partly, if you get too much per attraction, it tends to restrict negative tors

2214
01:44:17.950 --> 01:44:18.400
ion so it

2215
01:44:18.400 --> 01:44:22.400
can like pull you into a position where you're going to shift off the ball.

2216
01:44:22.400 --> 01:44:26.600
Typically that can cause like low point issues, especially with like half shots

2217
01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:27.160
and wedge

2218
01:44:27.160 --> 01:44:28.160
shots.

2219
01:44:28.160 --> 01:44:36.280
All right, so we already beat this slide up, Bryce will be really happy.

2220
01:44:36.280 --> 01:44:46.480
Um, now, here's another layer specifically for the spine, okay?

2221
01:44:46.480 --> 01:44:52.650
Um, when we look at like, and this, this is, you don't need to know this, but I

2222
01:44:52.650 --> 01:44:53.200
think

2223
01:44:53.200 --> 01:44:55.440
it's cool if you do, okay?

2224
01:44:55.440 --> 01:45:00.480
Um, if we look at the spine, there's, there's different layers, right?

2225
01:45:00.480 --> 01:45:04.500
So when we're talking about rotate the spine, there's essentially five

2226
01:45:04.500 --> 01:45:05.560
different layers

2227
01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:11.980
of fascia that we're going to be trying to move or create tension through.

2228
01:45:11.980 --> 01:45:15.560
The most superficial are the ones you'll be the most familiar with, which on

2229
01:45:15.560 --> 01:45:16.080
the front

2230
01:45:16.080 --> 01:45:20.780
side, it's basically the skin going across from the pec down through the abs to

2231
01:45:20.780 --> 01:45:21.400
the pelvis

2232
01:45:21.400 --> 01:45:24.640
and into the inner thigh, like very superficial.

2233
01:45:24.640 --> 01:45:27.320
So the pec, the abs to the adductor.

2234
01:45:27.320 --> 01:45:32.080
On the deeper layer, you have the diaphragm and the psoas that are very close

2235
01:45:32.080 --> 01:45:36.760
to the spine.

2236
01:45:36.760 --> 01:45:42.610
On the back side, you have the big muscles of the lat and the QL kind of going

2237
01:45:42.610 --> 01:45:43.320
across

2238
01:45:43.320 --> 01:45:45.320
the opposite glute with the lat.

2239
01:45:45.320 --> 01:45:49.340
The QL just goes in three different directions, but it's, it stays on the same

2240
01:45:49.340 --> 01:45:50.040
side, but it's

2241
01:45:50.040 --> 01:45:55.050
going across this way through the barreco lumbar fascia, the big thick, like

2242
01:45:55.050 --> 01:45:55.680
diamond

2243
01:45:55.680 --> 01:45:58.400
in the lower back.

2244
01:45:58.400 --> 01:46:02.480
On the deeper level, you, right next to the spine, you have the transverso spin

2245
01:46:02.480 --> 01:46:03.000
alis, which

2246
01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:07.560
is one of the muscles of the multiphidus, the three main, like erector groups.

2247
01:46:07.560 --> 01:46:11.560
Like I said, you don't have to know any of this, but I think it's cool if you

2248
01:46:11.560 --> 01:46:12.000
do.

2249
01:46:12.000 --> 01:46:20.390
The deepest layer is like through the skin of your kidneys, the inner lining of

2250
01:46:20.390 --> 01:46:21.480
your ribcage

2251
01:46:21.480 --> 01:46:25.270
or the skin around your lungs, and it goes up into the neck through what's

2252
01:46:25.270 --> 01:46:25.760
called the

2253
01:46:25.760 --> 01:46:28.560
mid cervical fascia, really deep.

2254
01:46:28.560 --> 01:46:31.940
You will have players where you get them in the impact position or at the top

2255
01:46:31.940 --> 01:46:32.240
of the

2256
01:46:32.240 --> 01:46:33.240
swing.

2257
01:46:33.240 --> 01:46:34.240
They're like, "I can't breathe."

2258
01:46:34.240 --> 01:46:38.000
It's because that's on stretch, and they're feeling their lungs are actually

2259
01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:39.480
being constricted.

2260
01:46:39.480 --> 01:46:42.120
Now, what do you do with that information?

2261
01:46:42.120 --> 01:46:47.470
Again, that's not really our place, but that can be something that if your

2262
01:46:47.470 --> 01:46:48.400
player has a

2263
01:46:48.400 --> 01:46:53.320
trainer or a therapist and you want to really wow them, be like, "Hey, just

2264
01:46:53.320 --> 01:46:54.320
connect me with

2265
01:46:54.320 --> 01:46:55.320
your therapist."

2266
01:46:55.320 --> 01:47:00.020
I'll say, "Hey, we were doing this position, and this felt really tight, and he

2267
01:47:00.020 --> 01:47:00.400
was feeling

2268
01:47:00.400 --> 01:47:01.400
like you couldn't breathe.

2269
01:47:01.400 --> 01:47:05.480
I think there's something going on with this ribcage."

2270
01:47:05.480 --> 01:47:09.200
Or he was doing this, and he was getting a radiating thing.

2271
01:47:09.200 --> 01:47:11.280
He felt like his neck was going to explode.

2272
01:47:11.280 --> 01:47:18.800
I think he's got some tension going on in his mid cervical fascia.

2273
01:47:18.800 --> 01:47:27.560
But that's deeper anatomy as far as how this negative positive version aligns.

2274
01:47:27.560 --> 01:47:32.270
In general, when you go to move something, the deeper it is, the more of a

2275
01:47:32.270 --> 01:47:33.080
restriction

2276
01:47:33.080 --> 01:47:34.480
it'll be.

2277
01:47:34.480 --> 01:47:38.660
It'll hit restriction first on the deeper level before it gets to the outer

2278
01:47:38.660 --> 01:47:39.300
level.

2279
01:47:39.300 --> 01:47:44.010
That was a TPI guy, and we did tons of stuff stretching your abs, or a little

2280
01:47:44.010 --> 01:47:45.080
bit stretching

2281
01:47:45.080 --> 01:47:48.520
your abs, but we didn't do a whole lot of, you do some breathing, but we didn't

2282
01:47:48.520 --> 01:47:48.820
do a

2283
01:47:48.820 --> 01:47:54.120
whole lot of working on the diaphragm, we did a hip flexor stretch.

2284
01:47:54.120 --> 01:47:58.830
We didn't do very much on the transverse-o-spinalis, so it's kind of like, as a

2285
01:47:58.830 --> 01:48:00.600
more complete picture,

2286
01:48:00.600 --> 01:48:04.840
you would work on all three, or both of the anterior and posterior chains as

2287
01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:05.460
well as the

2288
01:48:05.460 --> 01:48:06.460
deep chain.

2289
01:48:06.460 --> 01:48:10.640
All right, we're getting close.

2290
01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:12.100
Putting it all together.

2291
01:48:12.100 --> 01:48:16.970
During the backswing, we are trying to create displacement and distance, like

2292
01:48:16.970 --> 01:48:17.860
we're trying

2293
01:48:17.860 --> 01:48:23.980
to move and create a long hand path and load these slings, or chains, while

2294
01:48:23.980 --> 01:48:25.740
staying relatively

2295
01:48:25.740 --> 01:48:30.440
centered so that we don't have to make a major compensation during the down

2296
01:48:30.440 --> 01:48:30.940
swing.

2297
01:48:30.940 --> 01:48:34.130
During the transition, we're going to shift our weight and pressure into the

2298
01:48:34.130 --> 01:48:34.480
ball of the

2299
01:48:34.480 --> 01:48:38.600
lead foot, we're going to create a little bit more of this downswing load in

2300
01:48:38.600 --> 01:48:39.260
that left

2301
01:48:39.260 --> 01:48:42.320
leg that we're then going to unload.

2302
01:48:42.320 --> 01:48:46.250
We're going to try and get the center or mass of the club to fall a little bit

2303
01:48:46.250 --> 01:48:46.920
under the

2304
01:48:46.920 --> 01:48:47.920
hand path.

2305
01:48:47.920 --> 01:48:53.120
We're going to start squaring the face with a little bit of that axial velocity

2306
01:48:53.120 --> 01:48:54.440
, and then

2307
01:48:54.440 --> 01:48:59.560
we can kind of line up, I put this in here, but it's probably more of a release

2308
01:48:59.560 --> 01:49:00.200
issue.

2309
01:49:00.200 --> 01:49:02.800
We're going to line up the face and path for the desired ball flight.

2310
01:49:02.800 --> 01:49:06.220
There's probably a different ideal if you want to hit a fade versus a draw in

2311
01:49:06.220 --> 01:49:06.880
terms of some

2312
01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:10.040
of these positions and relationships.

2313
01:49:10.040 --> 01:49:16.030
Then during the release, we're going to transfer all that power to the club by

2314
01:49:16.030 --> 01:49:18.400
releasing the

2315
01:49:18.400 --> 01:49:23.640
lead leg and creating some of this powerful negative torsion.

2316
01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:26.400
We're going to get the body into this bracing position.

2317
01:49:26.400 --> 01:49:30.080
The double benefit of this negative torsion is it creates fast rib cage speed,

2318
01:49:30.080 --> 01:49:30.440
but it

2319
01:49:30.440 --> 01:49:35.740
also creates a position where now we're in a position where the club is being

2320
01:49:35.740 --> 01:49:36.320
pulled

2321
01:49:36.320 --> 01:49:39.510
by our body instead of just being in a position where you're going to pull

2322
01:49:39.510 --> 01:49:40.000
against it with

2323
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:43.640
your arms so we can handle more speed.

2324
01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:47.910
This is really when we're trying to create that 3D flat spot, which this

2325
01:49:47.910 --> 01:49:48.960
movement, this

2326
01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:55.040
body movement all does, and we're trying to create whatever face-to-path

2327
01:49:55.040 --> 01:49:56.280
relationship

2328
01:49:56.280 --> 01:49:58.840
for the desired ball flight.

2329
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:03.550
Going back to that very first slide on the face-to-path or on the launch

2330
01:50:03.550 --> 01:50:04.480
monitor stuff,

2331
01:50:04.480 --> 01:50:11.010
we're trying to slightly open face for a fade, slightly close face for a draw,

2332
01:50:11.010 --> 01:50:13.720
fairly neutral.

2333
01:50:13.720 --> 01:50:17.520
I usually use with my students an outcome goal.

2334
01:50:17.520 --> 01:50:19.040
We're either trying to hit the ball more solid.

2335
01:50:19.040 --> 01:50:20.040
We're trying to hit the ball straighter.

2336
01:50:20.040 --> 01:50:25.720
We're trying to hit the ball far, or further, or control distance.

2337
01:50:25.720 --> 01:50:30.570
We're all three, but I often say if you're working on all three, you're not

2338
01:50:30.570 --> 01:50:31.520
really working

2339
01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:32.520
on any of them.

2340
01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:35.640
You're just having fun swinging a golf club.

2341
01:50:35.640 --> 01:50:43.980
There's some overlap, especially when you've played for a long enough period of

2342
01:50:43.980 --> 01:50:44.920
time.

2343
01:50:44.920 --> 01:50:45.920
I'll give you an example.

2344
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:49.420
I had one of the guys who I worked with last week.

2345
01:50:49.420 --> 01:50:53.640
He came in like one of the worst heel shanks that I've seen.

2346
01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:56.700
He had been doing a bunch -- he was fine this summer, and then he started doing

2347
01:50:56.700 --> 01:50:56.760
the stack

2348
01:50:56.760 --> 01:51:00.530
system, got him kind of lunging a little bit in towards the golf ball and

2349
01:51:00.530 --> 01:51:01.480
really pulling

2350
01:51:01.480 --> 01:51:07.080
down to create speed, and he was basically crowding the plate.

2351
01:51:07.080 --> 01:51:11.250
He had questions about top of backswing, and I was like, "Whoa, priority number

2352
01:51:11.250 --> 01:51:11.720
one.

2353
01:51:11.720 --> 01:51:13.320
We've got to get better feedback.

2354
01:51:13.320 --> 01:51:15.720
We have to hit the ball relatively solidly."

2355
01:51:15.720 --> 01:51:20.120
We worked mostly on things that control low point.

2356
01:51:20.120 --> 01:51:24.100
But then, once we got a little bit better contact, then we started to talk

2357
01:51:24.100 --> 01:51:24.680
about the

2358
01:51:24.680 --> 01:51:27.440
ball flight and started to work more on straightness.

2359
01:51:27.440 --> 01:51:31.230
I like to have some type of outcome goal, so we're going to be able to track if

2360
01:51:31.230 --> 01:51:31.640
we're

2361
01:51:31.640 --> 01:51:33.160
actually getting better.

2362
01:51:33.160 --> 01:51:41.680
Then it becomes less of a student who texted me, "I'm just not feeling enough

2363
01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:42.480
of the load

2364
01:51:42.480 --> 01:51:44.800
in my leg at the top of the swing."

2365
01:51:44.800 --> 01:51:46.680
I'm like, "Well, how's that showing up?

2366
01:51:46.680 --> 01:51:49.960
Are you miss hitting it, or are you having trouble controlling the club face?"

2367
01:51:49.960 --> 01:51:53.880
Like, if I just gave you a better feel, how long is that going to last?

2368
01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:54.880
Usually.

2369
01:51:54.880 --> 01:52:04.640
Usually comes up in the interview, like, "How can I help you today?

2370
01:52:04.640 --> 01:52:08.640
What shot are you struggling with, or what's the miss that is driving you crazy

2371
01:52:08.640 --> 01:52:09.000
?"

2372
01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:15.970
I always say, "If you fix your worst miss, you're moving in the right direction

2373
01:52:15.970 --> 01:52:16.440
."

2374
01:52:16.440 --> 01:52:19.800
So oftentimes, I'll ask them, like, "I want to be more consistent."

2375
01:52:19.800 --> 01:52:22.040
I'll say, "Well, what does a consistent swing look like?"

2376
01:52:22.040 --> 01:52:23.040
I want to hit the ball further.

2377
01:52:23.040 --> 01:52:25.040
Well, what's a powerful swing look like?

2378
01:52:25.040 --> 01:52:28.260
This is, again, going back to some of those motor or those adult learning

2379
01:52:28.260 --> 01:52:28.960
principles of

2380
01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:32.600
trying to get them to think that it's not just like one thought.

2381
01:52:32.600 --> 01:52:36.780
I want to get away from the idea that there's just this magic best golf swing,

2382
01:52:36.780 --> 01:52:37.440
and I just

2383
01:52:37.440 --> 01:52:40.690
need to do that, and it's more of like, "Okay, there are these pieces that we

2384
01:52:40.690 --> 01:52:41.120
're going to

2385
01:52:41.120 --> 01:52:47.640
match up in order to create the swing that we want for you."

2386
01:52:47.640 --> 01:52:51.840
And I'll usually ask basically what creates the swing, but once you have your

2387
01:52:51.840 --> 01:52:52.560
clear goal

2388
01:52:52.560 --> 01:52:56.600
and you know what you need to work on, then it's time to get to work.

2389
01:52:56.600 --> 01:53:00.760
Getting to work on the basic level, we can do swing thoughts.

2390
01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:06.160
We can set up stations, but we now know that that's not the most advanced

2391
01:53:06.160 --> 01:53:08.040
awareness training.

2392
01:53:08.040 --> 01:53:12.740
We can use training aids, some more things, those are a stepping stone, just

2393
01:53:12.740 --> 01:53:13.640
like a station.

2394
01:53:13.640 --> 01:53:16.830
Tech points are a little bit better because you have to keep putting it back in

2395
01:53:16.830 --> 01:53:18.280
that position.

2396
01:53:18.280 --> 01:53:23.440
If you have references, then it's stage two instead of stage three.

2397
01:53:23.440 --> 01:53:27.280
Slow motion drills is easy.

2398
01:53:27.280 --> 01:53:28.360
Some people love them.

2399
01:53:28.360 --> 01:53:31.240
They'll just do slow motion reps instead of doing drills.

2400
01:53:31.240 --> 01:53:35.600
I'm okay with that, especially if it's coordinated with checkpoints.

2401
01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:39.040
And then tactile drills, that's what we're going to go over a lot today.

2402
01:53:39.040 --> 01:53:41.450
There are some students who will come in and specifically be like, "Doo, can

2403
01:53:41.450 --> 01:53:41.960
you do what

2404
01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:42.960
you did last time?

2405
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:46.160
Can you just like help me feel, like move my ribs again?"

2406
01:53:46.160 --> 01:53:48.960
Like, that was great.

2407
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:55.240
Okay, so play diagnose train, diagnose and train.

2408
01:53:55.240 --> 01:53:57.480
We got club goals, body goals, brain goals.

2409
01:53:57.480 --> 01:54:01.300
We're going to determine the outcome, and then we're going to train with drills

2410
01:54:01.300 --> 01:54:01.560
.

2411
01:54:01.560 --> 01:54:06.680
Two different ways to get to work.

2412
01:54:06.680 --> 01:54:12.800
I love that picture.

2413
01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:14.840
Should we take like a five minute break?

2414
01:54:14.840 --> 01:54:18.840
Was that a lot to cover?

2415
01:54:18.840 --> 01:54:20.320
Okay, sorry.