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In this analysis video we're going to discuss a question from one of our

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members

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about how Jim Furek is able to get his trail elbow behind him but still be a

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successful

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consistent ball striker. Most golfers who get the trail elbow behind them that

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much are going to

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struggle with contact issues as well as direction issues for the student who

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has agreed to let us

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look at his swing and compare him to Jim to hopefully get to the bottom of what

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is Jim doing

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differently than what most amateurs do when they get their arm behind him. In

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this video we're

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primarily going to look around impacts we're going to look mostly between

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impact and follow through

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kind of that zone there and we're primarily going to look at what's happening

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with the right shoulder

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what's happening with the left shoulder and what's happening with the pivot.

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There are a number of

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golfers who get their arm behind them but Jim is probably one of the worst

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offenders you can see

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how far he gets his arm behind his body. From this other view you can see a

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really clear

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picture of how that right arm is actually behind his rib gauge as he's coming

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down into impact.

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Let's discuss the problem most golfers face when their arm gets that far behind

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their body.

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Typically when the arm gets behind the body as we'll see right here with this

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amateur student

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you'll also see that shoulder blade going into elevation so as the elbow is

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going behind

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the shoulder is typically going up. Jim Fury does a pretty good job of even

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though the arm gets

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behind that shoulder continues to go down. So when he's into this impact

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position here his shoulder

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is depressed it's down in the socket compared to it being elevated here with

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the amateur student.

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In order to complement that he's going to have to do some stuff with the left

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arm we'll talk

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about here in a second but he's also going to have to use his pivot with more

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side bend and more

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rotation. Here you can see the golfer doesn't have quite as much side bend or

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rotation. A reference

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that I like to give is if you were looking at the height of the elbow compared

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to the height of the

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hip you could see that he gets his elbow right here kind of down below his belt

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or close to the

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height of his hip would be right around there it's a little bit above that but

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it's below the iliac

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crest or the pelvis. If we looked over here at the amateur you can see that the

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elbow is much higher

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than the hip. That makes sense because he's going to have to straighten his arm

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in order to get the

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club down there and when he straightens that arm with the arm behind that's too

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many shallows that

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moves the low point further behind the golf ball because Jim is able to keep

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that arm behind him

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and bend that does move the bottom of the swing backward but he's able to

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rotate a ton which moves

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the bottom of the swing far enough forward that he's able to make solid contact

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. Jim's not alone

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in his ability to rotate and side bend. Here if you look at Colin Morikawa his

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arm is in front but

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the elbow is again close to the height of the hip you'll see that as a useful

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reference for golfers

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who tend to have lots more rotation and side bend. If you compare that to a gol

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fer who has a little

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bit more arm extension you'll typically see that elbow higher than the hip

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similar to what we were

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seeing with the amateur student. Unfortunately if you do that and get the arms

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behind that usually

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causes or contributes to the cluster of inconsistency that usually you'll face.

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But let's not stop there

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let's take a look at the left arm to see what Jim feels doing differently

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during the release

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compared to the amateur. So a quick exercise to help you feel what Jim's

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feeling is find your

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hip bones to kind of find the top there's your pelvis as you come down your hip

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bones right about

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there and then if you take your elbow and you side crunch and so it's at about

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that same height

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and then if you were to put your arm behind your back now you'd feel that in

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order to get the club

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to impact you'd really have to rotate and side bend that's pretty much what Jim

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experiencing if you are if you feel it really uncomfortably when you get into

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that position

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then you probably want to pick a different strategy. All right so now let's

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look at the shoulders

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especially the left arm through impact so we can see that Jim gets into this

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well open position

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body is basically facing the target. I want you to watch his left arm and you

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'll see how straight

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and in front of his body his arm is during the release. We'll look at it from a

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more

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traditional view here in a second. Over here typically when the right arm gets

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behind and high

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and it has to straighten the arms have a tendency to kind of pass the body and

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this left arm will

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pull around the body and you'll see how that left arm kind of disappears as the

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arm is pulling

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around the body. So a lot of golfers struggle from getting the arm behind on

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one side to the

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arm behind on the other that kind of looks more like pulling around like this

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as opposed to a release

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where the arms stay more in front of the body which Jim is able to do even

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though it gets behind

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and then extends out. If we compare that to Jim Fürich notice how you can see

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his left bicep

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long into the release here where here his left bicep is pulling behind his body

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that's being

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accompanied by the right shoulder is going up and this right arm is rotating

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inward or counterclockwise

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and that left arm is pulling down and back that creates a steep shoulder

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challenge that you then

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have to navigate and it typically causes the clubface to close quite quickly

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requiring you to come in

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with the clubface a little bit more open usually creates some clubface

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consistency issues where Jim

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Fürich had one of the slowest rates of closure during his release because of

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this really good arm

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action. Here's a great view for looking at that left arm action down the target

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line not always

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the easiest camera angle to get but you can really see how that left arm is

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helping the club go more

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towards the target but staying in front of the body and that shoulder is

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staying in a more stable

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position. All right we looked at the left and the right arm individually now

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let's look at the

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shoulder blades. So if we look at the shoulder blades in general I'm a fan of

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more shallow shoulder

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blades or shoulder blades where when you approach impact the right shoulder

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blade is a little bit

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more down and behind and the left shoulder blade is a little bit more up and in

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front so that creates

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kind of more of a relationship where the shoulders are tilted more this way or

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or they're kind of

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tilted that way where this right is down and that left is up. The problem for

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robotic offers is when

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they get the arm behind that tends to tilt the shoulder blades in the opposite

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direction that

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tends to get this right shoulder blade going up and that left shoulder blade

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going down. One

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way you can look at that is here if we take them through into their follow

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through position you can

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see how much space Jim has between his shoulder and his ear. If I kind of scrub

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the clip back and

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forth you can see how the shoulder isn't really elevating much it's just kind

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of you see the body

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turning you see the arm moving but the shoulder blade isn't moving up towards

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his ear. If you look

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over here on the right with the amateur you'll see that early in transition you

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can see that there's a

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fair amount of space there and as he starts down that shoulder blade is coming

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in towards his ear

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a little bit and so when he gets down he's continuing to move in that direction

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you'll see that the

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shoulder is moving not just around but also up so when he gets into this

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position over here

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you'll see Jim's shoulders are tilted a little bit more that way and the

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student's shoulders

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are tilted a little bit more this way and so that creates more of a steeper

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shoulder action

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which then requires a compensation of early extension or tilting or chicken

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winging and all

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those create a poorer flat spot and more a higher rate of closure with the club

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face giving you

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contact issues as well as direction issues but hopefully you found this helpful

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golf is all about

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figuring out your matchups if you are trying to navigate figuring out what's

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going on in your

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swing it's helpful to know how to analyze your your swing i would start with

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impact and how good

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is your flat spot that comes down to the timing of the arm extension as well as

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the position or

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the orientation of your pivot once you identify what's going on with your

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impact zone what's going

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on with your contact then it should be fairly straightforward to identify which

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body part

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you need to train and we have drills to help you focus on each of the key

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components during

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each of the key phases so thanks for watching i hope to help you become your

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own best golf coach