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Timing vs. Position: Key Insights for Better Golf Swings

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify whether your swing issues stem from timing or position
  • Learn how proper sequencing of body movements affects your shots
  • Recognize common positioning mistakes during your backswing

In this video, you'll learn the crucial difference between training your body's positions and movements in the golf swing. Understanding these concepts will help you identify whether you're facing timing or positioning issues in your game.

Video Transcript
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this video is training positions versus training movements now there's two

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different things that we're going to be working on as you go through this golf

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smart academy program training the positions of where your body is and

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training the movements or the relative timing of when these things are

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happening so I I like to use I'll tell people all the timers help my students

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you are doing the right movements but you got to work on timing or the timing

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is

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pretty good but you don't quite have the movement right you're you're saving it

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with a wrong movement so it's important to understand which you're working on

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is

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it the timing or is it the movements here's the example or here's the analogy

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imagine I'm I'm shooting a ball in basketball right so ideally I want to

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have kind of a 90 degree angle something like this this is kind of my

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positions and I want to extend my arm towards the target just like so you know

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at roughly 60 70 degree angle everybody's a little bit different those would be

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the positions now the timing would be I want to push my legs first then I want

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to use my shoulder then I want to use my elbow then I want to use my wrist I

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could use my wrist first and then use my arm and that would be more of a

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timing miss issue versus a position a position issue would be if I was

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extending my arm over here that's not that's the right timing but it's gonna

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be hard to make a shot at the basket right there or let's say I had my arm

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like this and I shot like that again this could be very good timing but I'm

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out of position versus this being good position and I could essentially have a

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timing issue kind of like that so here's where the most common ones that I'm

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going to see when we're looking at golf typically position wise you're going to

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see during the backswing either the upper body kind of bend or sorry stand up

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and

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not have enough side tilt or you're gonna have the upper body move off the

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ball or you're gonna have the lower body sway those are some of our big common

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problems that we have featured in the common swing fault section other

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positions that will typically have trouble with will be where the arms are

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going so having the clubface to open not doing the motorcycle not starting with

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the lower body those are all going to be more positions than they are gonna be

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timings the typical timings that we're gonna see are going to be either just

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from a broad sense getting the arms involved too soon so I could be in a

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pretty good position but if those arms are getting involved too soon that can

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affect my quality of contact the cousin to that would be the lower body not

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getting not leading the downswing compared to the upper body so typically

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when you're gonna have positional issues you're gonna have a worse contact

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problem so it's typically gonna get your path very off sometimes it can get

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your face very off but it's gonna cause major contact issues when you tend to

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have more sequencing issues you'll have like minor contact issues and you'll

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tend to have distance inconsistencies so you may have trouble hitting the same

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distance shot after shot but if you're using video you should be able to see

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is it a sequence thing is it more of a position thing is it a timing what do

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you actually need to work on but oftentimes confusing a sequencing problem

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and just saying oh I got too quick I need to slow down that's more of a

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sequencing thought when oftentimes those are actual position problems and if

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you

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think it's a position problem such as all the clubface was open but I hooked

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the ball essentially that's probably gonna be more of a timing thing so use

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the feedback that you can whether it's the ball flight the contact or video and

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that'll help you not spend so much time chasing the wrong thing it'll help you

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focus on if you're working on a position or you're working on a timing

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possibly both but by knowing exactly what to work on it'll help speed up the

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learning process
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Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

Timing vs. Position: Key Insights for Better Golf Swings

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify whether your swing issues stem from timing or position
  • Learn how proper sequencing of body movements affects your shots
  • Recognize common positioning mistakes during your backswing

In this video, you'll learn the crucial difference between training your body's positions and movements in the golf swing. Understanding these concepts will help you identify whether you're facing timing or positioning issues in your game.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.160
this video is training positions versus training movements now there's two

2
00:00:05.160 --> 00:00:08.480
different things that we're going to be working on as you go through this golf

3
00:00:08.480 --> 00:00:13.080
smart academy program training the positions of where your body is and

4
00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:17.640
training the movements or the relative timing of when these things are

5
00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:23.920
happening so I I like to use I'll tell people all the timers help my students

6
00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:28.520
you are doing the right movements but you got to work on timing or the timing

7
00:00:28.520 --> 00:00:28.600
is

8
00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:31.880
pretty good but you don't quite have the movement right you're you're saving it

9
00:00:31.880 --> 00:00:37.040
with a wrong movement so it's important to understand which you're working on

10
00:00:37.040 --> 00:00:37.320
is

11
00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:42.000
it the timing or is it the movements here's the example or here's the analogy

12
00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:47.440
imagine I'm I'm shooting a ball in basketball right so ideally I want to

13
00:00:47.440 --> 00:00:50.680
have kind of a 90 degree angle something like this this is kind of my

14
00:00:50.680 --> 00:00:56.480
positions and I want to extend my arm towards the target just like so you know

15
00:00:56.480 --> 00:01:03.360
at roughly 60 70 degree angle everybody's a little bit different those would be

16
00:01:03.360 --> 00:01:08.560
the positions now the timing would be I want to push my legs first then I want

17
00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:11.520
to use my shoulder then I want to use my elbow then I want to use my wrist I

18
00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:17.120
could use my wrist first and then use my arm and that would be more of a

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timing miss issue versus a position a position issue would be if I was

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00:01:24.360 --> 00:01:28.560
extending my arm over here that's not that's the right timing but it's gonna

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be hard to make a shot at the basket right there or let's say I had my arm

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like this and I shot like that again this could be very good timing but I'm

23
00:01:39.440 --> 00:01:45.280
out of position versus this being good position and I could essentially have a

24
00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.920
timing issue kind of like that so here's where the most common ones that I'm

25
00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:56.560
going to see when we're looking at golf typically position wise you're going to

26
00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:02.360
see during the backswing either the upper body kind of bend or sorry stand up

27
00:02:02.360 --> 00:02:02.480
and

28
00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:06.200
not have enough side tilt or you're gonna have the upper body move off the

29
00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:09.720
ball or you're gonna have the lower body sway those are some of our big common

30
00:02:09.720 --> 00:02:15.160
problems that we have featured in the common swing fault section other

31
00:02:15.160 --> 00:02:19.120
positions that will typically have trouble with will be where the arms are

32
00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:23.560
going so having the clubface to open not doing the motorcycle not starting with

33
00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:28.520
the lower body those are all going to be more positions than they are gonna be

34
00:02:28.520 --> 00:02:34.000
timings the typical timings that we're gonna see are going to be either just

35
00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:38.880
from a broad sense getting the arms involved too soon so I could be in a

36
00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:43.120
pretty good position but if those arms are getting involved too soon that can

37
00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:49.080
affect my quality of contact the cousin to that would be the lower body not

38
00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:54.640
getting not leading the downswing compared to the upper body so typically

39
00:02:54.640 --> 00:02:59.680
when you're gonna have positional issues you're gonna have a worse contact

40
00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:04.200
problem so it's typically gonna get your path very off sometimes it can get

41
00:03:04.200 --> 00:03:09.200
your face very off but it's gonna cause major contact issues when you tend to

42
00:03:09.200 --> 00:03:14.360
have more sequencing issues you'll have like minor contact issues and you'll

43
00:03:14.360 --> 00:03:18.880
tend to have distance inconsistencies so you may have trouble hitting the same

44
00:03:18.880 --> 00:03:25.120
distance shot after shot but if you're using video you should be able to see

45
00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:31.680
is it a sequence thing is it more of a position thing is it a timing what do

46
00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:38.360
you actually need to work on but oftentimes confusing a sequencing problem

47
00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:43.200
and just saying oh I got too quick I need to slow down that's more of a

48
00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:47.420
sequencing thought when oftentimes those are actual position problems and if

49
00:03:47.420 --> 00:03:47.480
you

50
00:03:47.480 --> 00:03:51.920
think it's a position problem such as all the clubface was open but I hooked

51
00:03:51.920 --> 00:03:57.480
the ball essentially that's probably gonna be more of a timing thing so use

52
00:03:57.480 --> 00:04:02.120
the feedback that you can whether it's the ball flight the contact or video and

53
00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:07.800
that'll help you not spend so much time chasing the wrong thing it'll help you

54
00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:11.120
focus on if you're working on a position or you're working on a timing

55
00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:15.880
possibly both but by knowing exactly what to work on it'll help speed up the

56
00:04:15.880 --> 00:04:18.840
learning process
Related topics
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