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Live Q&A: Short Game Common Complaints - April 15, 2018

Live Q&A discussing member questions regarding common short game faults and fixes. 

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all right welcome to another YouTube

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live event this one I'm gonna focus on

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the short game after I have a bunch of

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questions after the Masters and I get a

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fair number of questions related to a

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wedge play in particular and so I

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figured we'd do a class or a talk

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specifically about that but if you have

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questions about other areas feel free to

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post them and as always just go ahead

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and introduce yourself if you're on the

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chat and I haven't talked with you or

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worked with you in person before so

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what's your name where you're at okay

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I'm gonna run through a handful of these

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questions but as live ones come in I'll

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jump over and answer so the first

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question that kinda helped trigger this

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was a question last week from Franco he

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asked how do I avoid getting under and

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stuck with a closed Club face so many

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many short game problems originated from

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having the club getting inside or under

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plane and having the club shut the

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problem with that is that if you used

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really good cast pattern and just did a

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normal kind of short game pivot you

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would tend to hit it fat or thin and at

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the very least you tend to hit a lot of

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leading edge contact so you'd hit the

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front edge of the end of the ground

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leaving you very little margin of error

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no so as far as getting the club stuck

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in inside there there are a handful of

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there a small handful of culprits that

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will cause that pattern one from the

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face on look most good wet players when

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I look at their 3d graphs tend to have a

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slight shift towards the target in the

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backswing if you tend to have more of a

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shift into your right foot with some

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body rotation you can see that if the

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body rotates and you shift that will

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tend to bring the club a little bit more

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inside compared to if you stayed a

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little bit more left and did the

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same basic body pivot so if I shift and

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rotate versus if I stay more left having

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more of a tilt and rotate

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that's one common culprit for getting

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the club's bucket inside second one

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would be related to the arms compared to

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the body so most good wedge players will

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tend to keep their hands more or less in

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front of their chest so if your takeaway

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is dominated by primarily to the trail

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arm pulling the club across your body

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now let's on the right side of your body

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it's way back here so that means in

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order to get the bottom of the swing out

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in front of the golf ball I would have

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to rotate my body pretty aggressively

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and keep the arms back well by rotating

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my body keeping the arms back that's

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tender that's going to tend to produce

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too much power for these short little

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shots and so that can cause they need to

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kind of stall or decelerate or release

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the arm so if you keep your hands a

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little bit more in front of your chest

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then that prevents the club from getting

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too far inside in order to do so so in

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order to keep the hands more in front of

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the chest you're probably going to feel

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like there's more rotation with your

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hands as opposed to flexion extension

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and abduction so I'm not really pulling

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my arms across and closing like this I'm

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more or less keeping the wrists in about

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the same position and having a bit more

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rotation if you're not used to that

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feeling of keeping the clubface square

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through a rotation which looks a little

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bit more like that it will tend to feel

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like it's very manipulated one of the

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ways you can confirm it is if you do a

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left arm only back swing and then put

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the right hand on it's very rare that

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you would pull the club dead inside with

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just your left hand so it's more natural

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that you're gonna swing the club on

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plane it's kind of a quick little hack

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fix and he actually asked when he does

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it with one hand

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specifically the trail hand it was fine

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what that probably tells me is that it's

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more of the left arm pulling across and

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more of the more of the lack of tilt

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that's probably when he has both hands

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on the club it's a little bit more of a

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body shift okay come back to Brian's

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question because it's less about the

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short game so Fred had a question about

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the short game kinematics sequence and

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the pelvis and chest graphs okay so the

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the short game kinematics sequence for

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those of you who are unaware of the

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kinematic sequence it's a 3d graph that

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shows the rotational speeds of different

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aspects of your body with the full swing

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there's a tendency that you'll see the

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lower body rotate first then the upper

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body then the arm then the club as far

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as the sequencing and order of

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transition with the with the short game

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what you'll tend to see is you'll still

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see that same order as far as lower body

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upper body arms club the club can go

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ahead of the arm sometimes but you'll

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typically still see the same pattern the

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biggest difference is you won't see a

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lot of acceleration peaking you'll tend

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to see very flat graph so the phrase

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that I use is instead of rotating and

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then bracing with the short game shot

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you'll tend to see a coasting pattern

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where basically the body and the arms

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are almost moving at the same speed all

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the way through the downswing there's

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not a whole lot of acceleration

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deceleration or acceleration transfer of

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energy most of the energy is being

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controlled more from the shoulders so I

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use the metaphor quite a bit of an

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underhand toss is more similar to a

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wedge shot as far as the basic rules and

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the power source so with an underhand

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toss the shoulder is more my power

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source and my lower body and Han

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are more supporting my accuracy with an

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overhand throw I'm gonna have more of a

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weight shift more of this sequencing and

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then more of a snap at the end so that

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more of the transfer of energy from the

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my lower body through the core and into

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the hands so the kinematic sequence it's

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going to look fairly flat as far as the

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chest and the pelvis graphs the

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rotations aren't that dramatically

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different other than you typically won't

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see a really big x-factor stretch in

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transition you will tend to see the

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upper body a little bit more open at

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setup and at impact compare the pelvis

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and the pelvis bend will stay relatively

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consistent there's not going to be quite

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as much pelvic tuck or glute squeeze on

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the way through the bigger difference

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you'll see on 3d is more of the Linear's

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so with the with the short game shot

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you'll tend to see a little bit more of

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a drift of the upper body forward and

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you'll tend to see a little bit more of

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a drift upward you won't see quite as

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much down and back in the short game

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shot as you would in the full swing so

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I'll answer the first kind of live

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question so Dennis it's asking about

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greenside bunker z' maybe 30 yards to

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the pin so a longer green side bunker

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shot much difficulty determining how

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best they hit the longer sand shots that

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is definitely like there's a reason

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that's a tough shot it's you either have

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to use your standard green side shot and

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move the contact point very close to the

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golf ball which gives you a little bit

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of risk of maybe catching it thin or

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what I recommend for most of my you know

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above 10 10 handicap players to do is to

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use more of like a 9-iron on that shot

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and use their basic bunker technique I'm

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actually a fan of using nine irons

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wedges eight irons as a greenside

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practice because it still forces you to

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use the back of the club it actually

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encourages you to get the handle a

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little bit lower

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and it it tends to because the club is a

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little bit lower it almost encourages

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you needing to get more of a steep angle

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attack which is helpful for both

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creating spin or distance control as

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well as for controlling the bottom of

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the swing most most poor bunker players

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have a tendency to not get too steep

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they can get outside but it's not that

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they're getting too steep what typically

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happens as they frequently get too wide

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with either having too much upper body

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tilt behind the ball this way or from

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getting the arms too much behind that

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way and then they tend to have the

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bottom of swing too far back so they'll

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either blade it or chunk it and leave it

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in the bunker so with a little longer

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Club it encourages more of that back

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tilting behind the ball so it forces you

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to work a little bit harder on the

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movement that I think is really helpful

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for good locally control or solidness of

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contact in the bunkers so for for your

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standard 30-yard shot I would probably

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go with more of a 9-iron wedge unless

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you have a lot of practice time and have

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really good bunker technique to begin

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with most you know with a sand wedge or

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58-degree wedge

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I'll tell most of my students to get

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good at hitting that about 15 yards as a

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baseline and then learn to take a little

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off with it

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but it's hard to get that to go all the

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way to 30 yards because the second you

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start trying to swing harder you'll have

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a tendency to get more lower body

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involved which has a tendency to create

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more shaft lean and that affects your

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low point most good bunker players and

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we'll talk about the club passing the

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handle down to the bottom and that's

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hard to do when you're swinging too hard

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from your body okay

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we'll get back on to some of the email

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questions and the next question was also

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from Fred he was asking for how do you

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control trajectory so it's difficult

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with the ship

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one to three inches towards the target

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named cast yes there's a trouble kind of

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matching the pace of the arms as a cast

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as well as the the shift of the upper

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body well so I in general I coach most

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of my students to avoid the three major

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just death moves of wedges three major

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death moves being more of a sequencing

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error of pulling on the handle and

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creating a whole lot of lag number two

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getting too much tilt behind the ball

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though that's actually the first one I

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usually teach and then the last one

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being more of an upper body dive so a

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lot of golfers who have kind of a

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flinchy or Yip tend to have more of the

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upper body diving down towards the golf

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ball that can create a little bit of too

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steep of an angle of attack forcing you

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to get shaft lean taking away bounce the

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whole host anyway the the main one that

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I'll focus on for usually the first

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lesson in order to get solid contact is

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keeping the shoulders more level and

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usually that feels like keeping the

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right shoulder high

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I'll show golfers how to figure out if

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they have too much side then from the

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spine or the hips but focusing on

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keeping the shoulder that right shoulder

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high helps to create a place where you

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don't have to have a whole lot of handle

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drag in order to make solid contact and

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so then you can control the trajectory

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by moving the ball position just

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slightly back in your stance slightly

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forward playing with little things like

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opening the club face slightly or

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bringing it more towards square I never

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like to really get it too close unless

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you're hitting a low running specialty

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shot and then you can play around with

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how much how much hand action you have

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down at the bottom so creating more of

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the hit from the hands versus creating

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more of the hit from the body pivot so

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if you have a little bit softer hands

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and

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more body pivot it'll tend to have a

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little less spin and come out lower if

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you tend to have a little bit more of

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the hands passing down to the bottom it

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will tend to come a little bit higher

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with a little bit more spin so if you're

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struggling with contact though I would

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first go after shoulders level and then

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I would go after the cast pattern and

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one of the common things that I see with

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the cast pattern is the cast pattern is

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more of a whole arm and shoulder release

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so basically putting energy into the

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club from the whole arm it's not just

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throwing with the wrist what I tend to

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see is some golfers cast it with the

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wrist but then because they keep this

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arm on the side and keep it in more of a

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loaded position they get into this side

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Bend pattern so letting the arm

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especially the trail arm just fully

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lengthen and release to bring the club

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down towards impact while keeping the

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shoulders level tends to create

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environment where you're gonna have more

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solid contact his next question

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it's a fret add a bunch of short game

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was part of the reason we went this

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direction foot pressure in the finesse

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and distance wedges so you know with the

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with the full swing we're gonna have

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more of a load into the right leg shift

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into the left leg and then getting in

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more towards that left heel with the

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finesse wedge more of the pressure is

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going to stay in the left heel for the

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majority of the shot and it it's gonna

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tend to be a little bit flatter so I

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usually like let's say that this club is

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my foot and I'll usually draw it on the

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whiteboard and I'll basically say okay

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here's the my toes here's my heel I'll

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say if you divide it in half I want you

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to keep your pressure in this left half

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of the of your foot the entire swing so

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basically keeping it from the ball of

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the foot backwards during the entire

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swing and not having a really aggressive

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or pronounced

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press into the ground

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the same way you would with your full

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swing I do that usually by focusing on

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keeping the knees a little bit softer

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instead of having more of a bracing

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pattern on the way through all right I

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see a question come in what causes a

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wedge shot to fall out of the sky

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quickly so for the club for the ball to

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fall out of the sky it's typically going

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to have less spin now frequently that

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combination happens when a golfer has

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too much side bend and they'll feel like

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the ball slides up the face because you

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with that side Bend it's easier to get a

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little bit of grass in between the ball

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in the club and youth it's easier to add

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a little bit too much loft and get the

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feeling of the ball sliding up the face

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I tell most golfers if you ever have

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that feeling where the ball just slides

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up the face and comes out a little dead

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it's usually a result of side bend

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there's a chance you could do it more

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with the wrist down at the bottom but

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it's almost always too much side bend

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too much access tulip coming into the

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ball the with a let's say 10 to 20 yard

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wedge shot dr. Neil was was talking at a

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conference that I was speaking at and he

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said that most of the numbers are let's

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say somewhere between 5 to 10 degrees of

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angle of attack with a lot of the better

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wedges wedge players being closer to the

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you know the 7 to 10 range so a little

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bit steeper so if you can imagine in

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order to hit down 10 degrees and not

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have a whole lot of cut spin then we're

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sorry then the path would be let's say

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six seven maybe upwards of 10 degrees

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out to in so that pull of coming a

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little bit out to end is part of what

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gets the ball to launch a little bit

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lower and it tends to help with the

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clean contact so it doubles in clean

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contact helping to get the face and then

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basically having a little bit more of a

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pull pattern in that pull pattern comes

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from the shoulders being level a little

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bit more of a chop action with the arms

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instead of a lift action with the arms

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and more body turn on the way through

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cool see turf yeah so sliding up the

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face I would definitely do some

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awareness girls more on side Bend

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that's it sounds like that's exactly

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what's happening Rick is asking what

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causes high and mid handicappers to flip

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their rips their wrist line chip shots

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okay so flipping the wrist on chip shots

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it can come from a variety of different

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of problem patterns I would say the most

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common would be starting with your hands

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too far forward for the higher handicap

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they start with the hands too far

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forward and then instead of let's say I

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would say in instead of having more of

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the impact can hit controlled by the

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body pivot and arm straightening they

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tend to control it more with the hand

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straightening so what they do is they

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set up with the hands too far forward

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like this and then flip the hands down

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at the bottom moving the bottom of swing

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backward usually what I do first is I'll

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have them get set up and then I'll take

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them to impact and I'll basically say

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okay where your hands are at impact

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we're gonna bring the club around and

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I'll come to this point and kind of

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guide them into hitting my hands more

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with a grip working around instead of

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hitting it more with either the club

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head or getting the grip going straight

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towards the target a lot of poor amateur

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or higher handicap golfers have a

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tendency to have the handle moving

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straight towards impact or sorry trick

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straight towards the target through

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impact as opposed to keeping

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being left and keeping the club face

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more let's say quiet or worse where

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Peter s how to chip off very tight

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almost bear hardpan so when you're

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chipping off bear hard pan there's two

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different options

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you can either play a little bit more

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shaft lean with the hands but then you

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have to be really careful to make sure

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that the body pivot is hitting it on the

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way through because if you get a little

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bit more hand action with that shaft

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lean you don't have the bounce to save

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you

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so that becomes a real problem when I

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coach most golfers to do is to get that

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to lengthen the right side of their

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spine and basically get that right side

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of the ribcage really tall that helps

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encourage more of a left path steep

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angle of attack and it allows you to

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cast and even flip a little bit and not

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hit it fat so you can use the the old

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Stan Utley

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where are your fingers along your leg

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and basically trying to get the left

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hand lower at set up and then pretty

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much staying there the the thing off

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tight lies is the common approach of

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hands back handle forward tilt behind

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almost always creates Bounce issues so

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if you're not very good with controlling

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the bottom of the swing while keeping

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that shaft lean I tend to err on a

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little bit more left he'll let me jump

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back to a couple of these emails and

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I'll get to I see a couple more

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questions coming in and I had a few

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questions unrelated to short game but

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that's what how these live Q&A works so

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Brian asked about down cocking the

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wrists in the downswing so basically why

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is it bad to have too much radial what

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are the problems it causes as well as

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maybe a drill to solve it so basically

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what he's describing is what what was

00:21:49.140 --> 00:21:52.320
commonly talked as lag is increased

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this radial deviation are basically

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hinging the left wrist like this now

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what what you'll see on 3d is that the

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left wrist might increase a degree or

00:22:04.470 --> 00:22:06.870
two during the downswing it doesn't

00:22:06.870 --> 00:22:10.039
change very much at all in fact many

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higher handicap golfers who have a look

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of more of a cast like this will

00:22:15.690 --> 00:22:18.840
increase their radial deviation more

00:22:18.840 --> 00:22:21.120
than golfers who look like they have

00:22:21.120 --> 00:22:25.980
more lag and it's because of the the 3d

00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:28.259
aspect if I get it more closer to the

00:22:28.259 --> 00:22:30.299
camera like this it will tend to look

00:22:30.299 --> 00:22:36.480
like it has more more or sari less lag

00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:39.629
even if I have more radial deviation

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where if I have it back this way even if

00:22:42.330 --> 00:22:45.419
I have more only deviation it will tend

00:22:45.419 --> 00:22:47.490
to look as if it has more lag to it

00:22:47.490 --> 00:22:49.320
because you're looking more at the angle

00:22:49.320 --> 00:22:53.100
instead of oblique to the angle so what

00:22:53.100 --> 00:22:55.289
a lot of golfers do is they pull down

00:22:55.289 --> 00:22:58.289
quite like this trying to create extra

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lag and hinge but the problem is that

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does two things one when you really

00:23:03.269 --> 00:23:04.950
change this way you can see and you can

00:23:04.950 --> 00:23:06.779
try it your wrist will naturally want to

00:23:06.779 --> 00:23:09.509
extend and the extension of the wrist

00:23:09.509 --> 00:23:12.149
tends to open the clubface so now I have

00:23:12.149 --> 00:23:14.009
a situation where the club is very

00:23:14.009 --> 00:23:16.559
vertical and the clubface is really open

00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:21.179
so it presentable ever a shallow angle

00:23:21.179 --> 00:23:23.669
of attack to the ball and how do I get

00:23:23.669 --> 00:23:26.639
that clubface to square so what more

00:23:26.639 --> 00:23:28.110
golfers do is when they're trying to

00:23:28.110 --> 00:23:30.120
create or when more of the Tour pattern

00:23:30.120 --> 00:23:32.549
would be is trying to create more of the

00:23:32.549 --> 00:23:37.379
load-in extension of the trail wrist as

00:23:37.379 --> 00:23:40.019
opposed to extension of the lead wrist

00:23:40.019 --> 00:23:43.169
and getting that face to rotate sooner

00:23:43.169 --> 00:23:46.320
which requires or almost always is

00:23:46.320 --> 00:23:48.889
accompanied by earlier ulnar deviation

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so I'm not trying to hinge it as much as

00:23:52.769 --> 00:23:54.990
possible but focusing more on the

00:23:54.990 --> 00:23:56.970
clubface same square or the wrist thing

00:23:56.970 --> 00:23:59.009
neutral tends to prevent that over

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setting up

00:24:00.590 --> 00:24:03.020
top so if you have a you know as a

00:24:03.020 --> 00:24:05.630
simple drill I have you can take a piece

00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:08.179
of tape or put a ruler or a tee or

00:24:08.179 --> 00:24:09.950
something in a golf glove and you can

00:24:09.950 --> 00:24:11.659
basically make sure that that wrist

00:24:11.659 --> 00:24:13.400
stays pretty straight if the wrist

00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:16.490
doesn't extend it's very hard to over

00:24:16.490 --> 00:24:21.169
set the wrist okay Chris Chris s

00:24:21.169 --> 00:24:23.210
watching jordan Spieth and Masters last

00:24:23.210 --> 00:24:25.580
week it looked like he doesn't hinge on

00:24:25.580 --> 00:24:27.169
chip Pitt shots

00:24:27.169 --> 00:24:28.789
looks like he rolls the wrist under

00:24:28.789 --> 00:24:31.909
thoughts or thought that was not correct

00:24:31.909 --> 00:24:34.490
it's uh it's becoming a more common

00:24:34.490 --> 00:24:37.149
pattern you've got guys like Jason Day

00:24:37.149 --> 00:24:39.429
and Steve Stricker who kind of

00:24:39.429 --> 00:24:43.520
popularized the basically almost keeping

00:24:43.520 --> 00:24:47.200
the same amount of hinge owner deviation

00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:49.429
setting up more square and then

00:24:49.429 --> 00:24:52.669
controlling that low point more by the

00:24:52.669 --> 00:24:56.029
upper body getting far enough forward as

00:24:56.029 --> 00:24:59.000
opposed to some golfers who teach a

00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:02.899
little bit quicker wrist set you know I

00:25:02.899 --> 00:25:04.970
tend to personally gravitate a little

00:25:04.970 --> 00:25:06.559
bit more towards that

00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.659
Spieth pattern that you were seeing the

00:25:08.659 --> 00:25:10.909
the key there is um if you are going to

00:25:10.909 --> 00:25:13.100
if you're looking at from a geometry

00:25:13.100 --> 00:25:15.649
same point if you're going to keep this

00:25:15.649 --> 00:25:19.130
part wide then I cannot get any of this

00:25:19.130 --> 00:25:21.140
behind the ball whatsoever you're gonna

00:25:21.140 --> 00:25:24.080
hear me say this probably multiple times

00:25:24.080 --> 00:25:27.710
today but if you're going to do more of

00:25:27.710 --> 00:25:29.960
that pattern where you're preventing the

00:25:29.960 --> 00:25:32.539
wrist from hinging and you're basically

00:25:32.539 --> 00:25:36.440
keeping it that only deviation then you

00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:38.870
have to get more of the steepness from

00:25:38.870 --> 00:25:42.110
staying forward kind of like this but I

00:25:42.110 --> 00:25:45.070
tend to find it works out pretty well so

00:25:45.070 --> 00:25:49.520
the the under flip part of that is more

00:25:49.520 --> 00:25:54.080
result of not letting that wrist flip or

00:25:54.080 --> 00:25:56.840
extend sorry to close the face and the

00:25:56.840 --> 00:25:59.120
under flip part especially on the really

00:25:59.120 --> 00:26:01.190
tight lies will help with getting more

00:26:01.190 --> 00:26:04.880
of a bounce contact so the key is just

00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.940
like a high handicapper hitting a slice

00:26:07.940 --> 00:26:09.940
they'll tend to lunge

00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:12.159
forward and use that under flip well

00:26:12.159 --> 00:26:15.159
that pattern creates a slight pole which

00:26:15.159 --> 00:26:17.710
gives you enough friction and the

00:26:17.710 --> 00:26:19.899
steepness of angle of attack but using

00:26:19.899 --> 00:26:21.250
the bounce so it's a pretty good

00:26:21.250 --> 00:26:24.190
combination for especially really tight

00:26:24.190 --> 00:26:25.659
grass like they were playing with the

00:26:25.659 --> 00:26:30.549
Masters okay Lee was asking how to keep

00:26:30.549 --> 00:26:32.919
the ball from checking when striking

00:26:32.919 --> 00:26:35.470
chip shots want the ball to hit the

00:26:35.470 --> 00:26:39.039
ground and start rolling if you're

00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:44.649
getting a lot of spin there are okay so

00:26:44.649 --> 00:26:48.850
the the main factors for spin are club

00:26:48.850 --> 00:26:51.759
head speed and solidness of contact the

00:26:51.759 --> 00:26:53.769
if you make really solid contact

00:26:53.769 --> 00:26:55.299
then you're gonna tend to get a lot of

00:26:55.299 --> 00:26:56.769
friction which is going to create a lot

00:26:56.769 --> 00:26:59.590
of speed and if you have a lot of club

00:26:59.590 --> 00:27:00.100
head speed

00:27:00.100 --> 00:27:02.860
you're gonna tend to create more spin so

00:27:02.860 --> 00:27:04.600
that's part of the reason why Tour Pros

00:27:04.600 --> 00:27:07.899
tend to make contact away from the

00:27:07.899 --> 00:27:09.700
center of the club either or slow on the

00:27:09.700 --> 00:27:11.289
bottom of the face or slightly more on

00:27:11.289 --> 00:27:14.259
the toe so that they can swing faster in

00:27:14.259 --> 00:27:16.509
order to create more spin so if you're

00:27:16.509 --> 00:27:20.080
trying to take off spin what you can try

00:27:20.080 --> 00:27:22.539
to do is take the hands a little bit

00:27:22.539 --> 00:27:25.179
more out of it so that it's more of a

00:27:25.179 --> 00:27:28.960
body pivot release and try to hit it a

00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:30.759
little bit more in the center of the

00:27:30.759 --> 00:27:34.500
club instead of low or even on the toe

00:27:34.500 --> 00:27:38.220
but the big one I would say is more

00:27:38.220 --> 00:27:41.019
basically if you if you move contact

00:27:41.019 --> 00:27:42.759
from away from the center to the center

00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:44.110
you're gonna get a lot more energy

00:27:44.110 --> 00:27:46.600
transfer so that by itself is going to

00:27:46.600 --> 00:27:48.250
require that you swing a little bit

00:27:48.250 --> 00:27:53.019
slower but I would I'd say that's one

00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:53.440
option

00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.389
the second option of course is you can

00:27:55.389 --> 00:27:57.970
always go down in clubs you know

00:27:57.970 --> 00:28:00.789
basically take away some of the loft

00:28:00.789 --> 00:28:04.659
but usually if you get more of the body

00:28:04.659 --> 00:28:06.639
release of everything coming through

00:28:06.639 --> 00:28:09.009
together without having a whole lot of

00:28:09.009 --> 00:28:10.750
hand speed down at the bottom

00:28:10.750 --> 00:28:12.519
it keeps the club head speed a little

00:28:12.519 --> 00:28:20.679
bit lower okay mark asked about when

00:28:20.679 --> 00:28:22.809
you're just off the green so like three

00:28:22.809 --> 00:28:24.309
turns off the green and you've got a

00:28:24.309 --> 00:28:26.440
little bit thicker kind of grabby grass

00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.710
or whether it's a like a po ana or like

00:28:29.710 --> 00:28:31.779
a Bermuda if you've got kind of more of

00:28:31.779 --> 00:28:34.179
that grass that's going to absorb a lot

00:28:34.179 --> 00:28:39.129
of the energy what do you do so when it

00:28:39.129 --> 00:28:40.929
when you have grass that can potentially

00:28:40.929 --> 00:28:43.059
absorb the energy you want to have a

00:28:43.059 --> 00:28:46.080
little bit steeper angle of attack and

00:28:46.080 --> 00:28:49.809
in order to this is almost the opposite

00:28:49.809 --> 00:28:51.370
of how do I take off spin you're gonna

00:28:51.370 --> 00:28:53.320
take off spin on that shot because it's

00:28:53.320 --> 00:28:54.999
in grabby grass and it's gonna be

00:28:54.999 --> 00:28:56.710
virtually impossible to get ball first

00:28:56.710 --> 00:28:58.929
contact you're going to get friction

00:28:58.929 --> 00:29:02.499
reduction from having debris in between

00:29:02.499 --> 00:29:04.990
the clubface and the golf ball so if you

00:29:04.990 --> 00:29:08.619
set up with a little bit more left

00:29:08.619 --> 00:29:11.710
shoulder low and then the the big thing

00:29:11.710 --> 00:29:14.169
on that is making sure that you're going

00:29:14.169 --> 00:29:15.789
to use the bounce of the club so making

00:29:15.789 --> 00:29:19.230
sure that on the way coming through that

00:29:19.230 --> 00:29:22.840
the loft of the club or the face has

00:29:22.840 --> 00:29:25.269
very little rotation golfers who tend to

00:29:25.269 --> 00:29:27.580
have a little bit more face rotation

00:29:27.580 --> 00:29:30.970
which is great for the full swing that

00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:33.669
will cause more bounce issues and when

00:29:33.669 --> 00:29:35.799
you're in that grabby grass it will tend

00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.649
to get the club to kind of stall or stop

00:29:38.649 --> 00:29:41.950
so really feeling more of what we talked

00:29:41.950 --> 00:29:43.600
about earlier of a little bit of that

00:29:43.600 --> 00:29:45.340
under release where the palm stays

00:29:45.340 --> 00:29:47.679
facing up and the face stays a little

00:29:47.679 --> 00:29:50.259
bit more open and then making sure that

00:29:50.259 --> 00:29:53.320
it's not sliding under by making sure

00:29:53.320 --> 00:29:54.940
that you're hitting more of almost the

00:29:54.940 --> 00:29:56.740
pull pattern with the upper body

00:29:56.740 --> 00:29:59.169
slightly more on top that combination

00:29:59.169 --> 00:30:02.169
tends to work really well out of out of

00:30:02.169 --> 00:30:04.330
Bermuda out of really thick rough when

00:30:04.330 --> 00:30:07.690
you don't want to have to swing too hard

00:30:07.690 --> 00:30:09.279
so if you're just slightly off the green

00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:15.450
falls in that category okay so Chris

00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:19.990
also asked keeping the upper body and

00:30:19.990 --> 00:30:22.269
lower body connected so this is separate

00:30:22.269 --> 00:30:24.789
from short game but more getting into

00:30:24.789 --> 00:30:28.289
just kind of some physical of transition

00:30:28.289 --> 00:30:31.240
so he was asking about keeping the upper

00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.370
body and lower body connected which

00:30:33.370 --> 00:30:37.570
souls are engaged this is a common

00:30:37.570 --> 00:30:39.880
pattern I've had a handful of cases in

00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.309
the last month or so of golfers coming

00:30:42.309 --> 00:30:44.590
in knowing that they want to have the

00:30:44.590 --> 00:30:47.410
lower body lead first but doing it in a

00:30:47.410 --> 00:30:49.660
way that doesn't really influence the

00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:52.410
club I'll show you what I make so the I

00:30:52.410 --> 00:30:55.120
give the answer first the main muscles

00:30:55.120 --> 00:30:57.430
that are going to connect the pelvis to

00:30:57.430 --> 00:31:00.010
the ribcage are your abdominals and your

00:31:00.010 --> 00:31:04.020
back muscles so basically having the

00:31:04.020 --> 00:31:06.270
internal oblique external oblique

00:31:06.270 --> 00:31:08.860
transverse abdominus rectus abdominus

00:31:08.860 --> 00:31:13.059
and then multifidus or your Paris finals

00:31:13.059 --> 00:31:18.760
and primarily your transverse or spine

00:31:18.760 --> 00:31:21.910
alice those guys are the core connection

00:31:21.910 --> 00:31:26.860
of the pelvis to the ribcage what can

00:31:26.860 --> 00:31:31.960
happen is some golfers get more like

00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.260
disassociation kind of like this but no

00:31:35.260 --> 00:31:38.350
energy moves from the pelvis to the

00:31:38.350 --> 00:31:39.790
ribcage it kind of gets absorbed in the

00:31:39.790 --> 00:31:41.350
back or I should say it doesn't really

00:31:41.350 --> 00:31:43.600
move all the way into the club so what I

00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:45.309
frequently do is I'll go to the top of

00:31:45.309 --> 00:31:46.420
swing and apply a little bit of

00:31:46.420 --> 00:31:48.460
resistance and I'll say when you turn

00:31:48.460 --> 00:31:51.460
your lower body I should feel that

00:31:51.460 --> 00:31:53.500
effort getting into the handle of the

00:31:53.500 --> 00:31:56.470
club and in order to even do it against

00:31:56.470 --> 00:31:58.990
myself like this I feel that my abs are

00:31:58.990 --> 00:32:01.510
getting a little bit more turned on so

00:32:01.510 --> 00:32:03.700
happens some golfers in order to

00:32:03.700 --> 00:32:06.490
sequence properly have more of a feeling

00:32:06.490 --> 00:32:10.600
of their body working more as one unit

00:32:10.600 --> 00:32:13.210
instead of a feeling of big

00:32:13.210 --> 00:32:16.710
disassociation and then almost having to

00:32:16.710 --> 00:32:19.679
re speed up in the arms in the hands so

00:32:19.679 --> 00:32:22.270
the big ones would be TVA internal

00:32:22.270 --> 00:32:25.720
oblique external oblique rectus being

00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:29.260
more from like big power regeneration

00:32:29.260 --> 00:32:32.260
not necessarily that connection so lots

00:32:32.260 --> 00:32:34.870
of your core activation breathing dead

00:32:34.870 --> 00:32:41.800
bugs that style Fred also asked one non

00:32:41.800 --> 00:32:46.660
short game related question so as far as

00:32:46.660 --> 00:32:47.350
ex

00:32:47.350 --> 00:32:49.419
sizes for increasing distance and

00:32:49.419 --> 00:32:52.270
preventing injury he was hoping that we

00:32:52.270 --> 00:32:55.059
could talk maybe about both exercises

00:32:55.059 --> 00:32:58.360
that improve distance and exercises that

00:32:58.360 --> 00:33:00.730
reduce injury risk and what would be

00:33:00.730 --> 00:33:04.299
five non-negotiable exercises so

00:33:04.299 --> 00:33:07.840
exercise is always a tricky topic I I

00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:11.260
study exercise I like I go to more

00:33:11.260 --> 00:33:15.280
classes and discuss exercise protocols

00:33:15.280 --> 00:33:17.460
in theory more than I do

00:33:17.460 --> 00:33:21.190
going to say golf swing style classes I

00:33:21.190 --> 00:33:24.130
get a lot of my ideas as far as how the

00:33:24.130 --> 00:33:26.530
golf swing works from understanding how

00:33:26.530 --> 00:33:29.380
the body moves and then um comparing

00:33:29.380 --> 00:33:31.270
that against a lot of the 3d data that

00:33:31.270 --> 00:33:34.390
I've had access to so the hard thing is

00:33:34.390 --> 00:33:37.510
from an exercise standpoint if we're

00:33:37.510 --> 00:33:40.000
going after distance and injury the main

00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:41.860
thing the main thing from an injury

00:33:41.860 --> 00:33:43.600
perspective is to distribute force

00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:45.669
through your whole body and keep joints

00:33:45.669 --> 00:33:47.799
closer to their end range of motion for

00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:51.820
longer so not going to end range of

00:33:51.820 --> 00:33:54.880
motion with high speed and not absorbing

00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.250
like not having poor energy transfer

00:33:57.250 --> 00:33:59.260
from one joint to the next I would say

00:33:59.260 --> 00:34:01.750
from an energy standpoint the most

00:34:01.750 --> 00:34:04.240
common places where that breaks down is

00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.640
either at the hips the lower back the

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.619
ribcage or the shoulder blades so I

00:34:08.619 --> 00:34:13.119
would really focus on hip mobility and

00:34:13.119 --> 00:34:17.320
strength exercises pelvis control and SI

00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.310
joint stability exercises ribcage

00:34:21.310 --> 00:34:24.310
mobility disassociation and all the

00:34:24.310 --> 00:34:27.730
planes and I use a lot of L dubba

00:34:27.730 --> 00:34:30.190
technique exercises in order to try to

00:34:30.190 --> 00:34:32.050
create some more space there and some

00:34:32.050 --> 00:34:34.210
more mobility in those joints and then

00:34:34.210 --> 00:34:36.850
scapular control in really getting a

00:34:36.850 --> 00:34:39.820
good handle on the shoulder blades

00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:43.720
because the shoulder blade can quickly

00:34:43.720 --> 00:34:45.730
if it starts to get too elevated or

00:34:45.730 --> 00:34:47.830
protracted can make it really hard to do

00:34:47.830 --> 00:34:51.970
good shallowing movements and from a

00:34:51.970 --> 00:34:55.090
longevity standpoint forces you to do a

00:34:55.090 --> 00:34:56.970
little bit more action from

00:34:56.970 --> 00:34:59.790
elbow in the wrist and less from the

00:34:59.790 --> 00:35:02.099
trunk so that can relate to either for

00:35:02.099 --> 00:35:04.950
our wrist neck issues or you may then

00:35:04.950 --> 00:35:06.599
actually compensate with the lower back

00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:10.859
so many golfers have a tight ribcage and

00:35:10.859 --> 00:35:13.140
then that stress either goes down into

00:35:13.140 --> 00:35:15.780
the lower back or up into the neck and

00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:20.340
shoulder so exercises that work on the

00:35:20.340 --> 00:35:24.030
ribs movement would probably be my my

00:35:24.030 --> 00:35:27.800
biggest tip as far as injury prevention

00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:30.480
he was asking about hypertrophy and the

00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.260
the hard thing there is there are

00:35:33.260 --> 00:35:36.890
there's not enough research as far as to

00:35:36.890 --> 00:35:39.510
hypertrophy of the muscles and its

00:35:39.510 --> 00:35:41.580
relationship to club head speed there

00:35:41.580 --> 00:35:46.170
are too many anecdotal issues of golfers

00:35:46.170 --> 00:35:49.230
on tour getting bigger getting stronger

00:35:49.230 --> 00:35:52.410
in losing club head speed you know some

00:35:52.410 --> 00:35:58.140
as many as 10 I've heard of one student

00:35:58.140 --> 00:36:00.540
who were one tour pro who's lost about

00:36:00.540 --> 00:36:02.550
10 miles per hour from doing about six

00:36:02.550 --> 00:36:06.810
months of strength training so in the in

00:36:06.810 --> 00:36:08.940
the global sense I don't think you have

00:36:08.940 --> 00:36:11.359
to do a ton of hypertrophy training to

00:36:11.359 --> 00:36:14.670
improve your ball speed but if you were

00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:16.619
I would probably say the safest area is

00:36:16.619 --> 00:36:19.530
to go after would be more your your core

00:36:19.530 --> 00:36:22.619
and your hips possibly scapular control

00:36:22.619 --> 00:36:27.180
but definitely be a little cautious with

00:36:27.180 --> 00:36:29.280
too much internal rotation training so

00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:30.960
whether it's bench press or lat pulldown

00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:32.040
or pull-ups

00:36:32.040 --> 00:36:35.430
those can create some some problematic

00:36:35.430 --> 00:36:36.810
patterns I've had that handful of

00:36:36.810 --> 00:36:39.450
juniors who start taking weightlifting

00:36:39.450 --> 00:36:40.770
class and then we have to rebalance

00:36:40.770 --> 00:36:43.800
their their face and path because of too

00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.410
much internal rotation exercises or

00:36:46.410 --> 00:36:50.490
hypertrophy training in the gym okay let

00:36:50.490 --> 00:36:52.440
me see you got another couple questions

00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:56.220
coming in do you advocate changing

00:36:56.220 --> 00:36:58.410
alignment based on angle attack for

00:36:58.410 --> 00:37:00.450
example wedges have a steeper angle of

00:37:00.450 --> 00:37:02.520
attack so it pushes the path to the

00:37:02.520 --> 00:37:06.930
right so would you aim more left

00:37:06.930 --> 00:37:16.559
oh my my gut instinct on that is I

00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:18.300
wouldn't necessarily change it just

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:22.950
based on the angle of attack because the

00:37:22.950 --> 00:37:25.319
the relationship would be more the face

00:37:25.319 --> 00:37:27.450
alignment combined with the angle of

00:37:27.450 --> 00:37:28.980
attack so you could have the same angle

00:37:28.980 --> 00:37:30.660
of attack and very different face

00:37:30.660 --> 00:37:32.930
alignments and your start line would be

00:37:32.930 --> 00:37:36.720
would be different so I would probably

00:37:36.720 --> 00:37:40.680
go more off of face alignment and in

00:37:40.680 --> 00:37:43.020
terms of how open close you're setting

00:37:43.020 --> 00:37:45.890
up with the club face rather than the

00:37:45.890 --> 00:37:47.220
angle of attack

00:37:47.220 --> 00:37:49.770
I think the angle of attack can help

00:37:49.770 --> 00:37:52.500
negate some of the clubface opening and

00:37:52.500 --> 00:37:55.710
create more of a pull situation but I

00:37:55.710 --> 00:37:57.809
wouldn't just make my set of changes

00:37:57.809 --> 00:38:01.530
based on that okay Edie is coming in

00:38:01.530 --> 00:38:04.500
with with a finesse wedge I seem to pull

00:38:04.500 --> 00:38:08.819
the ball left okay so you want to rule

00:38:08.819 --> 00:38:11.220
out or you'd want to figure out is the

00:38:11.220 --> 00:38:13.890
pole coming more from too much face

00:38:13.890 --> 00:38:15.839
rotation so the clubface is just coming

00:38:15.839 --> 00:38:20.309
in too closed or is the pole coming in

00:38:20.309 --> 00:38:22.470
more from the path being way to the left

00:38:22.470 --> 00:38:27.329
or possibly alignment I if it's more of

00:38:27.329 --> 00:38:30.480
the path going to the left if you have a

00:38:30.480 --> 00:38:32.880
good trajectory and you're hitting a

00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:35.880
solid and it's just a pole then I would

00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:38.040
potentially adjust my stance there's no

00:38:38.040 --> 00:38:39.569
real rule of thumb that you have to be a

00:38:39.569 --> 00:38:42.210
certain amount open my gut is you're

00:38:42.210 --> 00:38:44.849
probably getting more of the pull from

00:38:44.849 --> 00:38:46.950
too much face rotation which would lead

00:38:46.950 --> 00:38:49.109
towards a Diggy miss pattern and if

00:38:49.109 --> 00:38:52.020
that's more of the case then I'd work on

00:38:52.020 --> 00:38:56.010
the single arm releases for the finesse

00:38:56.010 --> 00:38:59.700
wedge and work on keeping the same loft

00:38:59.700 --> 00:39:01.859
and face relationship through the

00:39:01.859 --> 00:39:03.630
follow-through instead of letting it

00:39:03.630 --> 00:39:05.750
really twist over like the full swing

00:39:05.750 --> 00:39:08.099
and also have another question I'm

00:39:08.099 --> 00:39:10.440
having frequent thin shots with my irons

00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:12.930
I focus on the steep sand showers but

00:39:12.930 --> 00:39:15.240
it's continued struggle the direction is

00:39:15.240 --> 00:39:18.359
good but thin okay so the main culprits

00:39:18.359 --> 00:39:20.339
for a thin shot with the full swing

00:39:20.339 --> 00:39:22.680
are either going to be more of a

00:39:22.680 --> 00:39:24.900
underflip style release which would be

00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:29.009
more typically lead arm training or it

00:39:29.009 --> 00:39:31.979
would be too much early extension and

00:39:31.979 --> 00:39:34.920
side-bend so either the body is getting

00:39:34.920 --> 00:39:36.719
a little bit too shallow moving the low

00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:41.160
point backward or the release is getting

00:39:41.160 --> 00:39:43.140
a little bit too scoopy too flippy

00:39:43.140 --> 00:39:47.969
moving the low point backward so I would

00:39:47.969 --> 00:39:51.660
evaluate if it's the the easiest way to

00:39:51.660 --> 00:39:54.690
beat would be to look at video from the

00:39:54.690 --> 00:39:58.890
face on you look more at the release and

00:39:58.890 --> 00:40:01.589
seeing through impact is the right-hand

00:40:01.589 --> 00:40:04.559
stain under you know all the way into

00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.380
the follow-through or is the right hand

00:40:06.380 --> 00:40:08.819
getting a little bit more on top that

00:40:08.819 --> 00:40:11.369
would if it's staying under that can

00:40:11.369 --> 00:40:13.019
lead towards that thin pattern or from

00:40:13.019 --> 00:40:15.869
the down the line checking to see if the

00:40:15.869 --> 00:40:17.519
butt is moving too much in towards the

00:40:17.519 --> 00:40:19.349
golf ball or the knee is getting out

00:40:19.349 --> 00:40:23.880
past the feet that would be one other

00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:26.190
area that you could potentially look at

00:40:26.190 --> 00:40:32.180
I heard that there was some that came in

00:40:32.219 --> 00:40:34.869
but it looks like that was Ed's question

00:40:34.869 --> 00:40:37.269
so thank you ed for jumping over from

00:40:37.269 --> 00:40:40.029
email and moving it here to more the

00:40:40.029 --> 00:40:43.229
Facebook banner or the YouTube pattern

00:40:43.229 --> 00:40:49.900
alright I think that about covers all of

00:40:49.900 --> 00:40:54.489
the all of the email questions I had in

00:40:54.489 --> 00:40:57.089
so if you have any last-minute questions

00:40:57.089 --> 00:40:59.140
post them right now

00:40:59.140 --> 00:41:02.469
if I don't get to them I will save them

00:41:02.469 --> 00:41:05.289
for the next YouTube or yeah YouTube

00:41:05.289 --> 00:41:08.200
live event I hope you're still enjoying

00:41:08.200 --> 00:41:11.920
these um we're gonna be making a little

00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:14.140
announcement with the site so always

00:41:14.140 --> 00:41:17.799
working on stuff but thanks again it's

00:41:17.799 --> 00:41:19.660
beautiful out here so I'm probably gonna

00:41:19.660 --> 00:41:22.089
head over and maybe do a little practice

00:41:22.089 --> 00:41:24.849
myself if you have any questions that we

00:41:24.849 --> 00:41:27.130
didn't get to cover either about short

00:41:27.130 --> 00:41:28.989
game or about the full swings please

00:41:28.989 --> 00:41:32.709
send them to me through the email at

00:41:32.709 --> 00:41:35.799
support at golf smart Academy com

00:41:35.799 --> 00:41:38.289
there's another YouTube video on the

00:41:38.289 --> 00:41:40.779
three danger wedge or the three danger

00:41:40.779 --> 00:41:42.069
moves a wedge play if you're struggling

00:41:42.069 --> 00:41:44.499
and I'll demonstrate kind of three moves

00:41:44.499 --> 00:41:45.759
you really want to avoid if you're

00:41:45.759 --> 00:41:47.229
struggling with finesse or distance

00:41:47.229 --> 00:41:49.329
wedges and if you haven't checked it out

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of course take a look at my book and

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check out my website where I've got lots

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of videos discussing in detail the

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different areas the different concepts

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and drills on how to train it so thanks

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again for coming in for another YouTube

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live and we will hopefully post another

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one of these very shortly

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