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Best
Young Teachers in
America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.
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Insight - Adjusting From A Life Of Hockey
Playing hockey can train some great things in your golf swing. Most hockey players that I have tested have great sequencing, and usually have good hip speed. But there are a few major things that hockey players struggle with. As Liam Mucklow said recently, "hockey players love to get 'steep and deep'". This is because it is a very helpful condition for hitting a good slap shot, but it's not helpful for hitting a golf ball correctly. The three issues I see that ex-hockey players face are typically.
- Sway
- Excessively closed clubface (especially in takeaway)
- Forward lunge
This package of swing faults can be frustrating because often times it results in fairly solid mid irons, but struggles with both the wedges and driver swings.
Playing hockey can train some great things in your golf swing. Most hockey players that I have tested have great sequencing, and usually have good hip speed. But there are a few major things that hockey players struggle with. As Liam Mucklow said recently, "hockey players love to get 'steep and deep'". This is because it is a very helpful condition for hitting a good slap shot, but it's not helpful for hitting a golf ball correctly. The three issues I see that ex-hockey players face are typically.
- Sway
- Excessively closed clubface (especially in takeaway)
- Forward lunge
This package of swing faults can be frustrating because often times it results in fairly solid mid irons, but struggles with both the wedges and driver swings.
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this insight is adjusting from a life of
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hockey so as i've been in colorado here
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for a while i've been working with more
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and more hockey players
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they tend to have a pattern just like
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those tennis players just like those
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baseball players tend to have a pattern
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so there's three major things that i see
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consistently with hockey players doesn't
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mean that you're going to see them with
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everyone but if
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you're a x hockey player and you
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struggle with these issues hopefully
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this will help you understand why and
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give you some strategies to work on them
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so the three major things that hockey
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players are going to do with the golf
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club is they're going to tend to
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sway a little bit off of the ball
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they're going to tend to keep the club
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face closed or restrict forearm rotation
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during the backswing and they're going
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to tend to have a forward lunge of the
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upper body so these are three big
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movements that are helpful when i'm
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hitting a slap shot but problematic when
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i'm swinging a golf club so the the sway
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is essentially going to be this lateral
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movement and typically their initiation
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which would be good with a hockey stick
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is going to be that closed-faced um and
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they will have some of the most
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closed-faced of anybody who i've ever
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measured on 3d
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but they'll tend to have closed face
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with a little bit of a sway
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as opposed to rotating and kind of
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letting my upper body turn into my trail
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side they tend to stay a little bit more
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lead side bent
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which by itself can make it uh
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problematic for hitting the driver um
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unless i have this major jump on the way
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down which a lot of them tend to do
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the other one that i've seen more and
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more and from talking to one of my
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ex-hockey players he says that this is
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actually encouraged in hockey
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of the sports this is one of the few
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that i never really played but
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during the hockey slap shot you're going
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to want to have your upper body drifting
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towards the net
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during the entire time you're not going
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to want to post up and go like so um
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because you have the tendency to fan or
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swing over top of the puck this upper
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body covering movement like so tends to
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let you hit behind it and then keep the
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blade close to the ice as it goes
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through the puck but when it comes to
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golf this can cause big time angle of
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attack issues as well as forcing you to
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cast both to
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hold off some of this face rotation
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and to shallow out the club from this
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steep upper body movement so they tend
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to struggle with what i think are some
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of the more
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annoying problems one of which being
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fat wedges
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because i'm taking it away closed and
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i'm forward lunging kind of like so i'll
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tend to fall into this early extension
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pattern late
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and get the path coming too much from
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the inside
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now with a hockey slap shot i can hit
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behind it and
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that actually helps with a slap shot but
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the problem is with a golf club if i'm
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if i do that if i come from the inside
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and have the club bottom out behind it
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i'll typically get leading edge strikes
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so i'm going to get
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laying sod or i'm going to pull my arms
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in i'm going to blade it so if you're
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working on getting out of hockey
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and becoming more of a golfer one of the
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things that i would recommend is working
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on this stable pivot which we teach
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during the backswing in the transition
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section
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and then working on having a little bit
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more forearm rotation
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on the way back
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by letting it open up kind of like so
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it'll allow you to
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square it um
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without using that forward lunge and
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that forward lunge
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can be great for
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iron play it can be great for a few
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specific shots
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but
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typically hurts your wedges typically
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hurts your driver and so i think it's
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kind of one of those problems you want
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to get out of so if you're coming from
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hockey you got to learn to let the club
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face rotate a little bit more you've got
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to learn to stabilize your pivot
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and usually you'll have to work on a
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little bit of this early extension
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pattern but if you do i promise you can
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find that this game is just as fun and a
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lot less dangerous
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something that you can do well into your
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older years so good luck adjusting from
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a life of hockey into a life of golf
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this insight is adjusting from a life of
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hockey so as i've been in colorado here
00:00:05.839 --> 00:00:07.759
for a while i've been working with more
00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:10.160
and more hockey players
00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:11.920
they tend to have a pattern just like
00:00:11.920 --> 00:00:13.280
those tennis players just like those
00:00:13.280 --> 00:00:15.040
baseball players tend to have a pattern
00:00:15.040 --> 00:00:17.920
so there's three major things that i see
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consistently with hockey players doesn't
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mean that you're going to see them with
00:00:21.039 --> 00:00:22.480
everyone but if
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you're a x hockey player and you
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struggle with these issues hopefully
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this will help you understand why and
00:00:28.160 --> 00:00:30.240
give you some strategies to work on them
00:00:30.240 --> 00:00:32.079
so the three major things that hockey
00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:33.520
players are going to do with the golf
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club is they're going to tend to
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sway a little bit off of the ball
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they're going to tend to keep the club
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face closed or restrict forearm rotation
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during the backswing and they're going
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to tend to have a forward lunge of the
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upper body so these are three big
00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:49.920
movements that are helpful when i'm
00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.559
hitting a slap shot but problematic when
00:00:52.559 --> 00:00:55.520
i'm swinging a golf club so the the sway
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is essentially going to be this lateral
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movement and typically their initiation
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which would be good with a hockey stick
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is going to be that closed-faced um and
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they will have some of the most
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closed-faced of anybody who i've ever
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measured on 3d
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but they'll tend to have closed face
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with a little bit of a sway
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as opposed to rotating and kind of
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letting my upper body turn into my trail
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side they tend to stay a little bit more
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lead side bent
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which by itself can make it uh
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problematic for hitting the driver um
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unless i have this major jump on the way
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down which a lot of them tend to do
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the other one that i've seen more and
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more and from talking to one of my
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ex-hockey players he says that this is
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actually encouraged in hockey
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of the sports this is one of the few
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that i never really played but
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during the hockey slap shot you're going
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to want to have your upper body drifting
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towards the net
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during the entire time you're not going
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to want to post up and go like so um
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because you have the tendency to fan or
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swing over top of the puck this upper
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body covering movement like so tends to
00:02:04.320 --> 00:02:07.920
let you hit behind it and then keep the
00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:09.759
blade close to the ice as it goes
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through the puck but when it comes to
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golf this can cause big time angle of
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attack issues as well as forcing you to
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cast both to
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hold off some of this face rotation
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and to shallow out the club from this
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steep upper body movement so they tend
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to struggle with what i think are some
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of the more
00:02:28.800 --> 00:02:31.760
annoying problems one of which being
00:02:31.760 --> 00:02:33.200
fat wedges
00:02:33.200 --> 00:02:35.440
because i'm taking it away closed and
00:02:35.440 --> 00:02:37.760
i'm forward lunging kind of like so i'll
00:02:37.760 --> 00:02:39.760
tend to fall into this early extension
00:02:39.760 --> 00:02:41.120
pattern late
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and get the path coming too much from
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the inside
00:02:44.080 --> 00:02:46.000
now with a hockey slap shot i can hit
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behind it and
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that actually helps with a slap shot but
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the problem is with a golf club if i'm
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if i do that if i come from the inside
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and have the club bottom out behind it
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i'll typically get leading edge strikes
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so i'm going to get
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laying sod or i'm going to pull my arms
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in i'm going to blade it so if you're
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working on getting out of hockey
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and becoming more of a golfer one of the
00:03:10.239 --> 00:03:11.599
things that i would recommend is working
00:03:11.599 --> 00:03:13.760
on this stable pivot which we teach
00:03:13.760 --> 00:03:15.360
during the backswing in the transition
00:03:15.360 --> 00:03:16.319
section
00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:19.200
and then working on having a little bit
00:03:19.200 --> 00:03:22.159
more forearm rotation
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on the way back
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by letting it open up kind of like so
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it'll allow you to
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square it um
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without using that forward lunge and
00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.239
that forward lunge
00:03:36.239 --> 00:03:37.760
can be great for
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iron play it can be great for a few
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specific shots
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but
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typically hurts your wedges typically
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hurts your driver and so i think it's
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kind of one of those problems you want
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to get out of so if you're coming from
00:03:48.239 --> 00:03:49.920
hockey you got to learn to let the club
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face rotate a little bit more you've got
00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:54.400
to learn to stabilize your pivot
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and usually you'll have to work on a
00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:57.760
little bit of this early extension
00:03:57.760 --> 00:04:00.080
pattern but if you do i promise you can
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find that this game is just as fun and a
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lot less dangerous
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something that you can do well into your
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older years so good luck adjusting from
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a life of hockey into a life of golf
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