Connecting motorcycle move to ulnar deviation

Reply

Connecting motorcycle move to ulnar deviation  

  By: Petteri N on Dec. 11, 2025, 4:29 a.m.

Hey Tyler!

Have been diving into a lot of the content here and have been able to improve my swing significantly over past couple of months.

One thing I have been struggling to understand and implement is combining motorcycle move and ulnar deviation. Both moves make sense and are easy to do individually while isolating the moves with a club without a swing.

I saw in one thread you suggested that this should feel like a one move but I have difficulties putting these together. When I only focus on the motorcycle, I hit the ball relatively well without a flip. But when adding ulnar deviation, the flip seems to come back especially when adding more speed.

In terms of feel and timing of these moves, how should I combine these? Begin at the same time from the top of the backswing or in a more blended motion starting with motorcycle or something else?

Cheers from Finland!

Reply

Re: Connecting motorcycle move to ulnar deviation  

  By: Tyler F on Dec. 13, 2025, 7:54 a.m.

Hi Petteri,

Good question! The wrists can be tricky and everyone seems to have different feels. I do think the blend of flexion and ulnar deviation can feel unified since they share similar muscles and are coupled motions. Typically the motorcycle happens slightly before the ulnar deviation.

In your comment, you mention that you hit it well with the motorcycle feel but it gets worse with ulnar deviation. You might already be doing ulnar deviation when you try to do just the motorcycle. A video would help, you can see it at impact from the DTL and post impact is easier to see in the face on follow through position. Usually golfers who need to work on ulnar deviation complain about diggy ground contact, possibly deep divots, pulls, overdraws, having trouble adding vertical ground force movements, and two-way misses.

I think the first step is seeing if you need to work on both, just one, or neither and then go from there. Feel free to post a video if you're unsure.

Happy Golfing in Finland,
Tyler

Reply

Re: Connecting motorcycle move to ulnar deviation  

  By: Petteri N on Dec. 17, 2025, 12:26 a.m.

Thanks for the feedback!

My typical miss is indeed to the left. One thing I already figured out which helped a bit was to feel the unhinge from trail wrist as supination. I think previously I just dumped the unhinge from lead wrist without paying attention to right forearm/wrist which tends to be overactive in my swing.

I attached DTL and Face-on swings here. Wrist action doesnt seem 100% correct from the video to my untrained eye but it has been getting better. I am relatively new player and I know there are plenty of things to work on my swing, especially in transition, to get into better delivery position to actually execute the correct wrist motions. One thing I can clearly see is that the club is coming from very inside of the plane.

If you could take a look and point me to some areas to focus on, that would be greatly appreciated!

Happy upcoming holidays!

-Petteri

 Last edited by: Petteri N on Dec. 17, 2025, 2:05 a.m., edited 2 times in total.
Reply

Re: Connecting motorcycle move to ulnar deviation  

  By: Tyler F on Dec. 18, 2025, 5:09 a.m.

Hi Pettteri,

I often say, "your body can only work as well as your arms, and your arms only as well as your body." I think your arms are fairly good and can't get much better until you improve your body work. I think you have two big opportunities with your body, getting in a better position at the top of the swing and better sequencing in transition.

If you look at your delivery position, your chest is very closed and tilted behind the ball. That's what makes your path come well from the inside. If you're upper body was more stacked, you'd have a hard time coming that far from the inside.

Overall, I think your follow-through is quite good, which usually means you're physically capable of using the body differently.

I'd set up some kind of axis tilt station and work on the top of backswing position first, then work on sequencing from there.

Happy Golfing,
Tyler

PS - When your that far closed and tilted behind the ball it's very hard to apply good vertical forces, it's very hard to have good ulnar deviation without good vertical forces.

Subscribe now for full access to our video library. Subscribe now