Spinning Your Wedge Shot

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In this content video, we're going to discuss spin with your wedges.

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So how do we create backspin?

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That's a common question that I get.

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How do I hit that low spinning wedge shot?

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Well before we go out and talk about some of the technique associated with spin

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, let's

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cover some of the physics or just some of the basics here.

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There are a number of different factors and I might have omitted something but

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the big

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ones are going to be these four here.

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So we'll talk about each of them, how they relate to spin and then hopefully

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that will

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help you visualize what we're trying to do and help you figure out how to read

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feedback.

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So the first thing here is spin loft.

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Spin loft is the difference between the loft presented at impact, so not

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necessarily the

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loft on the club but the true loft that the ball is seeing at impact and the

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difference

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between that and angle of attack.

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So for example, if I had a, and spin has created the same way in each sport and

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with each club.

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So the things that make you create too much spin with your driver are the same

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things

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we want to add here for the wedges and the things that bring your spin down

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with the driver

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would be the things that we want to avoid here.

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So here I have a wedge and it's got 58 degrees of loft, so this was at its

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resting position.

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This would be on about a 58 degree angle.

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So if I was this swing flat, there I've got this gap, that gap would be

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considered spin

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loft.

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So if I kept the loft the same and I hit more down on it that would increase

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the difference

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between the two and up to a certain point we'd get more spin.

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I'll talk about that here in a second.

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But what a lot of people do is when they hit down, they don't change the loft

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and so the

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two move together and then you just start hitting it lower but the spin number

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doesn't

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really change.

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So it just comes out lower and releases instead of lower with more spin.

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So if you're going to create more spin from your technique, we have to increase

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the difference

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between those two up to a certain point.

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So there's something called spin loft mountain which is basically, you know, if

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those numbers

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are too close together, you get really low spin and as they increase, you

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continue to

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increase spin.

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But when they get to a certain point, you lose out on creating friction and the

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ball

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just kind of slides on the face and spin starts going down.

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So spin goes up and then it kind of reaches this peak.

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That peak I've seen, let's just say somewhere in the 50, 45, the 60 range, I've

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seen a bunch

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of different numbers presented, I think it's just important to understand that

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there is

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a theoretical kind of max loft for where you would create spin and if you get

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to that

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point, then the only other way is to increase spin would be some of these other

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factors.

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So the other factors are going to basically revolve around creating more

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friction, right?

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If I played a lot of tennis and if you're trying to kind of spin the ball, it

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makes

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sense that to create spin, the paddle or the racket is going to be pointing in

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a different

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direction than the paddle is traveling and the faster I could do it, the more

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that I

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could create spin and kind of the more I could get the ball to like grab the

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club, the more

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I would create spin or grab the racket I should say.

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So we're trying to create friction, we can influence that based on contact

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location and

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we can increase that by increasing speed and the number one thing in order to

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create friction

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is to have a really quality premium golf ball and clean wedges.

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Some of the guys who really spin it, you're not going to like to hear this, but

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some of

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the guys who really spin it get new wedges every single week.

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That's not practical for most of us, but at least keeping the face clean and

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playing a

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good golf ball, Pro-V1, Chromesoft, TaylorMade, whatever, one of the higher

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spinning golf balls.

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I have seen on track man when a pinnacle or a top flight falls into the range

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basket next

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to the Pro-V's, the launch can increase as much as 10, 12 degrees higher if I'm

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hitting

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back to back shots and I go from one of these premium balls to an old beat up

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range ball

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that's just hard with hard cover and the dimples of them worn down and

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everything.

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These are the factors that are a little bit directly in our control because

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they're more

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about the equipment, but the technique is going to have a bigger impact on

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changing spin

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loft, contact location and speed.

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In general, similar to what we talk about with the driver, the lower you hit it

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on the face,

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the more speed you have and the closer the spin loft is to your peak, the more

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spin that

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we're going to create.

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When we go out and we talk a little bit about the technique associated with

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spin, just keep

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in mind that these are the factors that you're trying to maximize when you're

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trying to create

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spin and we're really trying to just slice the cover with greater loft compared

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to the

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angle of attack and we'll go through how I like to teach that as far as

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technique goes

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here in a second.

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Okay, so now that we understand our overall theory, we're trying to increase

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spin loft

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and increase friction, so we're trying to have a good angle of attack and we're

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trying

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to have enough loft and the differential between those two is going to create

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spin.

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We want to make sure that we have clean contact with a new ball and clean

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contact.

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Sometimes some golfers talk about hitting it more on the toe in order to

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increase spin.

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I think there is a little bit of merit to that.

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In general, most of the technique that we teach in this course are going to

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help you

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create more spin because you're going to get better contact and overall good

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wedge technique

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tends to create some spin.

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We'll talk about the two big technical contributions, I think, and then we'll

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talk about some of

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the barriers to spin, which is likely what more of you are going to be trying

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to overcome.

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Why aren't you spinning the ball as much as you think you should?

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The two big goals for creating spin are getting a little bit more stacked, so

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feeling like

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your upper body is helping increase the angle of attack or upper body is

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increasing some

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of the steepness that brings us to one of our first barriers to spin, which is

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having too

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much access tilt.

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Access tilt lowers the low point, which makes you more likely to bottom out a

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little bit

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behind the ball or at the very least have a shallow angle of attack.

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It tends to bring the club a little bit more from the inside, but it's more

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this low point

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getting behind the ball and lowering the low point, it tends to have the big

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influence

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on spin creation.

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If anything, we want to air on being a little bit more upper body stacked, a

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little forward

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lunge is the worst thing for trying to create spin.

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Second thing is getting some shaft lean, so getting the hands ahead, but having

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some

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release, especially some of that ulnar deviation coming through on the way

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through.

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I find that golfers who try to hold off the release too much, tend to either

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create more

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of almost like a punch shot feel where they don't create spin or they tend to

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get diggy

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and get contact too high on the face because they're not releasing it.

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Those two can contribute to spin or spin problems, I should say.

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Getting off can be a problem, but on the other end, having more of a flip

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release can also

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be a big barrier to spin.

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You end up having too much loft and not enough angle of attack and that

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combination brings

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your spin loft too high.

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You cross over that spin loft mountain, so if you're launching it in the 34, 35

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, 35,

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seeing people launching it as high as 40, they tend to have less spin than if

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we can get

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this launching at or below half the loft.

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If you have a 60 degree wedge, 30 degrees or a little bit below, this is a 58,

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I'm going

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to be targeting 29 or lower as my launch and we'll be monitoring the spin.

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Big barriers creating too much access till having more of a hold off release or

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an over

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the top at the bottom can be big problems.

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Things that don't necessarily have a huge impact, having a little bit more of a

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forward

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lunge, having a little bit more early extension or stand up, and as long as I

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can get my hands

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ahead, having a little bit more scoop down to the bottom isn't the worst thing

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for creating

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spin.

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We'll demonstrate and we'll walk through and you'll be able to see how some of

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these movements

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can influence spin here as we go through some shots.

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Let's go through a little demo, a couple of shots here, so we'll have the track

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man number

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so that you can kind of see hitting off mats just to kind of get a little bit

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better control

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of the elements and that's just where I have my trackman default setup.

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So first one we're going to stack a little bit and then feel, okay, so that was

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pretty

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close to the baseline there, hit spin loft somewhere around 55 degrees, angled

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attack

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around 11, launch angle at 28.9, so again pretty close to half the loft.

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If you're with a 60 it can be a tiny bit higher, we'll see if we can get that

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one even a little

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bit lower and potentially keep the loft the same and increase the spin a little

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bit.

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So we'll see if we can stay a little bit more stacked up with that upper body.

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Okay, so we got the launch down, but we got the launch down but you'll see the

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angle

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of attack went down but I hit that a little bit cleaner on the toe so I was

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able to increase

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the friction even though the spin loft came down, so that's why I say there's a

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couple

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different factors, it's not just spin loft but that has a big influence on it.

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So next let's demonstrate more of a scoopy release where I'm going to have the

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hands

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back, so the loft will be a lot more but I'm guessing the angle of attack

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hit that a little fat, kind of on purpose, you'll see the launch angle jumps

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way up to 36 degrees,

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that had pretty much a zero angle of attack, spin loft dropped a little bit, my

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loft went up by a good amount up to 49 degrees and the spin goes way down when

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you hit it fat

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like that, so I hit it higher on the club because I hit it fat which brings a

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spinlet down,

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I got also the angle of attack decreased a ton by about 10 degrees, so let's go

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ahead and see if

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we can do another good one, so stack on top, launch that there, that's coming

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out pretty good,

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so that launched good for me, 27.8, 12 degree angle of attack, spin went way up

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, spin loft went up

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even though dynamic loft went down, so that's kind of my max spin right there

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on a 50 yard shot,

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somewhere around 8000 is pretty good for me, we'll show the one other, so we

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saw the scoop how that

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takes away spin, now I'm going to do one where I'm going to preset almost like

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a driver with a

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little bit of axis tilt and we'll see what numbers we get for that, it's back

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up on the screen,

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preset a little bit of this axis tilt, so that launches much higher over 31,

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angle of attack was

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down five, spin is going to be not terrible, I hit that pretty clean, outside

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the tendency is to

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catch it a little bit fat or thin, which can lower the spin, let's do that one

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more time,

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so I'll see if I can slide a little bit more kind of like that, so I hit that

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clean,

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that's probably going to be close to some of the same numbers, yeah, so spin

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was still pretty good,

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let's see if we can do that one more time where we get it just a little bit fat

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, so I'm going to

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set up a little bit more here, that was I think going to be lower on the spin,

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so I set up a little

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bit more and then slid, still hit that okay, but you will see the launch angle

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tends to go up higher,

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I tend to find that golfers who get that launch angle higher than 30 will say,

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tend to have some

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contact issues because it's usually a sign of not having enough shaft lean, so

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there's just kind of

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some quick, quick little numbers, now the other one that I wanted to show is a

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couple things that

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happen when we start messing around with the equipment, okay, so first

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equipment change,

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I got a title as velocity and a Callaway ERC, let's just baseline kind of the

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wedge technique I'm

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going for again, kind of more like that, so that again launched 28, okay, so

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there again close to

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the baseline numbers, now let's do the same thing with a title as velocity, you

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can hear a totally

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different sound and that launched at 36 degrees, so this is part of the reason

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why and you can see

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spin dropped down to 4800 just by changing the golf balls, we'll do the same

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thing here

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with the Callaway ERC soft,

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hit that a little bit harder, launch wasn't too bad, spin wasn't terrible on

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that,

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so perhaps that ball's not quite as hard as I thought it was, again I've seen

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closer to

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what we saw there with the velocity, I'll see if I can find any other pinnacles

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or something like

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that real quick, okay this is always fun, we've got, let's see if we can hold

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that up there,

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we've got a spalding range ball, this thing's probably as old as I am, and then

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I got another

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velocity and a nitro that just felt hard, I couldn't find any pinnacles,

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sometimes other balls get

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kind of mixed in the range baskets here, or the range buckets that we use, okay

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so let's try to get

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kind of similar, you'll see launch goes way up, again up to about 36 degrees,

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so we're seeing about

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it, eight degree launch change, just from changing off balls and spin went down

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all the way to 4,000,

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so if you're trying to work on low launching or high spinning shots, you have

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to be careful of

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the range that you're practicing at and the balls that you're using, just know

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that it's not going

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to look like a torshot unless you're using some quality equipment, let's do one

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more or two more,

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I got the velocity, that felt like it should have had some good spin, but it

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launched at 34

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and spin was down around 5,000, let's try this nitro ball and see if it has any

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more spin compared

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to the other ones that we've been hitting, oh nope that felt like a rock when I

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hit it, launched at

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38, that was probably the closest to kind of those old topflights and spin,

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spin was not awful but

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not great, right, so we were consistently hitting these around 50 yards and you

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can see how

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my speed didn't change dramatically on a bunch of those shots but depending on

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either the

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technique or the equipment I was using, I got a big spin change, the one other

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thing I want to show

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is cleanness of face, so I'm going to put a little bit of water on the face and

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we're going to see

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how that influences spin, okay so we'll see over here, you can see kind of the

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reflection, I just

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put a little bit of water on the face and now we'll hit a couple shots and we

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will see what this does

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to the spin for you, so same technique, that felt like it should have spun

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pretty well, again that

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launched up at 38 degrees, we saw that these Pro-V's were launching closer to

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28 and the spin rate

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dropped all the way down to 3,200, so almost let's say 2/3 less spin, something

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like that,

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so I'll tell people when oftentimes my 8 o'clock lessons when they're still do

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on the ground want

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to work on getting more spin and I'll tell them look we have to make sure that

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we really clean

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the wedge and the golf ball and maybe even dry off some of the turf where we're

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going to be hitting

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from because if it is wet that's going to have a big influence on dropping the

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spin, so make sure

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you clean your face if you're working on spin because that dry face is going to

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help with friction,

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so keep this in mind when you're working on either the trajectory gate or any

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of the launch drills

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that if you're not getting it to launch low enough double check your equipment

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the equipment's fine

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then you do want to look at technique as far as being nice and stacked to help

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improve your

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angle of attack and if you're not getting spin then double check the release to

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make sure that

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it's not quite a hold off but you're actually getting some shaft lean but still

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finishing

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with a little bit of ulnar deviation kind of some of this wrist action on the

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way through

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that combination has shown for me and my students to be some of the big factors

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for

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helping increase your your spin with your low launching distance wedge