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P10 - Finish Position

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Ending the swing. From follow-through position until the end of the motion.
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All right, coaches, here we go with the last installment of the position

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program, looking

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at P10.

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This is the finished position.

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So we are going to keep it in the context of arms versus body, bracing versus

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coasting

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and a little bit of revealing the path and things like that.

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But this is really an extension of looking at P8, but it can give us some

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details that

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we might not just see from looking at P8.

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So just keeping in context, the simple movement guide, we'll do our last little

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recap of this.

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So what's moving, what's not, whenever you're looking at movement, you can kind

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of think

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about the muscles in the fascia and you can think about what part is moving.

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In order to move, you have to have some anchor.

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So some of the common fixed points or anchors are going to be the main joint.

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So the foot, the knee connect as an anchor, the pelvis, the hip, the ribs are a

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common

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one, the shoulder, the elbows and the wrist can actually get locked in place

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and be a

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fixed point.

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So always think relationships versus just absolutes.

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So local versus global, what's happening for one area might be a compensation

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for something

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nearby.

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So common areas to look at are the hips and the feet working together, the hips

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and the

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shoulders working together, the rib cage working with either the hips or the

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shoulders, the

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shoulders and the wrists, I already said that.

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So those are kind of some of the big relationships, but it's helpful to think

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about how one part

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of the body is influencing another.

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And out versus outside in, each joint has stabilizers as well as movers.

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So if we think about the first goal is to get the joint kind of centered or

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stabilized,

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then the big movers can act more forcefully.

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If the joint is sloppy, you'll typically not be able to recruit as many motor

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units and

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you won't be able to get as much out of the movers.

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Superarms is not so much related to this, although one key thing is a lot of

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golfers

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will pull their arms in closer as they get to the finish position to kind of

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take some

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of the load off of their body.

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That's commonly, we'll talk about it a little bit later, but that's commonly

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kind of a bracing

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and using more of the shoulders versus using more of the core.

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So we'll get little glimpses at the finish position as far as what they were

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thinking

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about both the path and the face, or sorry, path and how they create speed, but

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not much

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with the face control.

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That's kind of over at P8.

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What gets loaded gets unloaded.

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So this is a great place to look at, well, what is this golfer doing to end the

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movement?

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You can see what they like to move and what they don't like to move.

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That might help you influence what's going on down in the more important phases

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.

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Same thing with working the pattern backwards.

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If you look at what's moving into the finish, you can figure out what they

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might be avoiding

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or what their preferences are.

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And then, of course, pushing the car analogy, that's what we want to use, the

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big guys to

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absorb force.

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So we should be seeing some of the big guys moving here in the finish.

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So all of them get involved in this.

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All right.

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So just a quick recap, we've got P1 through 4, which is the backswing.

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Main goals, if you've got all the individual power points, you can see the

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details, but

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main goals are shifting pressure and kind of loading up while maintaining a

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center or

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centered pivot in some sense.

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So not much vertical lateral movement.

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And then organizing the face and path so that we're in position to organize the

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path in

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the face during that first phase of the downswing.

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So first phase of the downswing, we've got P5 through 10 here.

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So early part of the downswing, we're trying to apply max pressure into that

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lead foot

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while maintaining lag or increasing some of the wrist and shoulder stretch

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during that

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downswing.

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So we're going to lead that movement more from the core, we're trying to

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already start

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organizing the face so that by this shaft parallel checkpoint, we've got our

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body creating

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a lot of the speed, but the club and arms are in a good position where we can

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then get

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some shaft lean and good compression at impact.

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As we release through to this finish position, we've got the bracing going on

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maintaining

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the spine angle, centerness of our hub or centerness of our pivot.

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And then as we look in this follow through, we can kind of see the main like

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the after

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effects of where we're using our body, where we're using our arms, what was our

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swing direction,

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we'll get some cues there.

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So there's our quick recap of the release or repeat the last video that we shot

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.

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So stable pelvis slide, arms extending through impact to create this flat spot,

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more extended

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trail wrist or flex lead wrist at impact than it set up.

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So if they were really strong, they might work more towards the neutral.

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If they were really weak, they'll have an exaggerated position.

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But getting the wrist more in that movement there helps with squaring the club

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face and

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creating shaft lean given body driven pivot.

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The dominant normal force down at impact is pretty much unavoidable.

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The key is to get it happening more from body rotation pulling on the club

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versus just

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the arms pulling on the club.

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The shaft lean and looking at the impact line.

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So with the irons, shoulder, hip, shaft, hand, kind of all in line just after

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impact with

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the driver, it's more of the hip and shaft that helps with controlling dynamic

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loft and

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getting maximum compression, transferring energy to the golf ball.

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For consistency, we want and for playability, we want our steeps and shallows

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to match our

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ball flight goals.

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So a little bit inside out for a draw, a little bit outside in for fade, but

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having a good

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low point and depth control so that we have this nice gentle gradual bottom of

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the swing,

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that's the flat spot that tends to give us consistency.

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Okay, when we decode the release, we kind of look at scoop versus tour.

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So in the scoop release, you will typically see the trail wrist going towards

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flexion

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or rehinging or the arm going into excessive internal rotation.

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The lead wrist, you'll tend to see going towards extension, rehinging or ret

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raction of the shoulder

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blade and usually with no supination, so it'll tend to look more like that.

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With the trail hand, we can get into, are they pushing more with the thumb on

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the club or

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are they pushing more with that first finger or the first pressure point of

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this right index

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finger through the release, you want to see the elbows getting closer together

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versus

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getting wider or further apart.

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Typically when they get further apart, you'll see very limited supination when

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they're

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going together, getting closer together, it's easier for that lead forearm to

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supinate.

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From the body's perspective, we will tend to see with more the scoop, you'll

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tend to see

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a little bit of kind of a buckle in that lead leg, that's when I'm really kind

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of anchoring

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in the knee and the quad, it's a sign of getting more of my speed from my arms

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and you'll, or

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if I'm doing a lot with my arms, you will tend to see not a lot of body

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rotation.

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Part of that is because the pec and the lat tend to have or have facial

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attachments onto

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the pelvis, so the pec right here, the lat back here, but both of those are

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going to not

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be as strong in this position as they would be in this position, so when you

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start firing

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your arms, you're going to line things up so that it can fire and work more

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effectively.

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And then you got the geometric aspect, which is as I stand up, this is going to

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straighten.

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So as this arm straightens, I need to create more distance, otherwise I would

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hit the ground.

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So it does help control low point, it does help close the face, it helps go

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normal, but

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it creates this narrow bottom of the swing and typically has a faster club face

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closing,

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which doesn't work as well for consistency.

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Okay, so as a reminder, P8, one of my favorite positions to analyze, you see a

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lot of what's

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going on here, how well they're using the body, the core, how well they're

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doing ulnar

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deviation, how well they're doing supination, this gives you a really good path

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checkpoint,

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club face checkpoint.

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If you have the club face in view, I don't in these two videos, or these two

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pictures,

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you can see the spine angle, so how well they mained centered pivot, you can

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see remnants

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of the impact line, so what kind of axis tilt and body location they had at

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impact.

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This is one of my, one of the more telling positions, so you want to get really

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good

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at looking at it.

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But sometimes things will show up as we approach more of the finish position.

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So as we go to P10, that's kind of the end of the swing, we're going to scan a

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number

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of different things.

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You've got the lead hip to foot relationship.

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So if I had a vertical line right here, you can see that the hip is just

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slightly behind

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the foot, as opposed to directly on top of the middle of the foot.

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You can look at trail hip buckle.

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So how well has this hip stayed up?

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Basically, if I get into this position here, if I drop like this, that's called

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a trendelenburg,

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if you're looking at gate analysis, where basically I'm not using the glute med

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ius on

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the side to control the level of the pelvis, and I'm kind of like sinking

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totally into

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the hip capsule.

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I'm kind of going until I get on stretch of the capsule instead of using the

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muscle.

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That can be a sign if I did that early, that's going to create some really big

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low point

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issues.

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All right, so we got slight spine angle, so still slightly tilted.

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We're making sure that the shoulders haven't really shrugged, that the arms are

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staying

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out in front of the chest.

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We'll see that from the face on view.

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But one of the other good ones to look at here is that lead arm to shoulder

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height.

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So as I get into this finish position, especially from that down the line view,

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you can look

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at looking for about a right angle in that lead arm.

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Some people will finish way down here, and others will finish way up here.

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So you'll kind of see these two kind of like that or like that.

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But if those arms stay in front and the body is rotating it through, then this

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will tend

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to form more of that right angle.

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Also you'll see the shaft position compared to the head.

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So if it's gone like way up, it'll be more vertical.

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That's usually a sign of an overly into out path, or some too much body

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extension on the

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way through, and then coming around more like this, that would be typically

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more of kind

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of a lead shoulder pull or retraction.

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Often times that's going to create more of an outside in path down at the

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bottom or a

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little bit more steep.

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So that's where we're looking at this shaft to head/spinangle relationship.

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From this face on view, we can see the get full body rotation, especially

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looking at the

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hip to belt buckle.

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Are they internally rotating that lead hip, externally rotating that trail hip.

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Lead foot turnout, so we can see where the weight is on that foot.

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We can also see the body position compared to the feet, I don't know if that

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listed there,

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but if your hips are more in the center of your stance, that can be an

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indication of maybe

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poor lower body mechanics or needing poor lower body mechanics to match a club

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face

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problem.

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This is where elbows in front of the chest.

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So basically as I get to that finish position, there should be still some good

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shoulder blade

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integrity.

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I don't want to have those arms kind of pulling in a lot, and I don't want

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those shoulders

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pulling up a lot.

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So if those arms stay out in front, which is good, sorry to say, interior

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activation,

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then I'm going to continue to get my rib cage to move around a whole lot more.

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That tends to create some of this smoothness or width down at the bottom.

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Then lastly, you've got the extension of the hips and spine.

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So you can scan, are they getting into some extension?

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And if they are, is it happening uniformly throughout the spine and hips, or is

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it just

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happening at one part?

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So you'll see I'm not quite as extended through my upper thoracic, it's getting

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better.

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But that's one of my physical restrictions.

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And in this particular swing, maybe not quite as extended through the hip as we

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might want

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to see, but overall not too bad.

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Okay.

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So quick summary of that, you've got basically looking at your hips, your core,

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your shoulders

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and your feet, hips, looking at pelvis rotation from the face on, and extension

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from the

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face on, from the core, kind of looking through the spine for a fluid curve,

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with side bend

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from the down the line and extension from the face on.

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And then the shoulders looking at minimal shrugging, not too much, pull one way

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or the

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other, although it's kind of still in front of the chest.

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Foot and ankle, that'll give you a little insight into is the rotation

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happening more

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from the knee and ankle, or is it happening more from the foot.

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Okay.

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So now let's dive into some of these favorite swings we've been analyzing here.

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So we got Alan first.

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If we just take a look at these two images, we can see that there's a lot we

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can learn

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from this follow through that we might not have seen from just looking at the,

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or sorry,

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the finish compared to the follow through.

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So we can see by comparing the follow through the finish, the hips didn't quite

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get around,

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more of the extension is happening in the lower back, still quite rounded there

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in the

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upper back, shoulders are a little bit shrugged.

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And you know, he's kind of on the very outside of the middle of the foot, right

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?

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Okay, so if we take a quick look at that, so again, on the way through, we can

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see if

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we kind of scrub back and forth through there, there's a kind of lack of

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extension of that

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trail hip.

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So we'll see the ankle kind of come up in the leg, not necessarily straight

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ening the

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trail leg, not necessarily straightening.

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Now we'll see why he's getting onto the outside of that foot, he's not getting

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a whole lot

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of extension from that hip either.

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So potentially getting a little bit more hip tuck or bracing coming from the gl

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utes would

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help clean up what's happening in both the knees and the ankle.

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Secondly, if we go through, we can see that right shoulder kind of really

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reaching with

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the club.

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He keeps the elbows kind of in front of his chest pretty good, but he does have

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more of

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a shrug if we were able to see from the down the line, we probably see that

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space pretty

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closed off and we probably wouldn't see a really good maintenance of his spine

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angle.

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But you can see that there are definitely, okay, just as a general looks like

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he's kind

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of avoiding his hips, so we see some excessive compensations at the ankles and

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the shoulders.

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So that might be something we'd investigate on the lessensee.

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Alright, so Mr. Happy Feet looking at the finish, we can see not a whole lot of

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maintenance

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of the spine angle, very vertical, the trail hip, or sorry, the lead hip to

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foot.

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You can see it's pretty much on top of instead of still in that angle.

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Something going on in that foot we'll look at because there's no extension of

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that ankle.

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And then shoulders, especially this right shoulder is up a little bit, but

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overall not

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too bad, okay, so dynamically, we can see there's just kind of an early

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extension pattern.

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Right, so there's a fair amount of vertical movement, but then on the way

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through that

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vertical movement kind of stops right about here and then it just goes into

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rotation,

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which is where we see that foot coming more off the ground.

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The brace or the ending of that arm extension there isn't happening as much

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from the obliques

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in the core, so much as it is just kind of pulling those arms across the body.

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Now he does a pretty good job of maintaining the shoulder position, so there's

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not like

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a really big collapse or shrugging.

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Let's see what's happening from that face on.

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So again, this is where we see kind of, okay, everything is spinning, that

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could be just

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the foot looks a little odd, there could be a restriction like an artificial

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right hip

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or something like that, preventing the external rotation so the knee has to go

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with the hip,

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and so that's why we see that foot going.

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As he gets into a finished position other than the early extension and kind of

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the overuse

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of the arms, there's nothing kind of glaring at that position.

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He's probably pretty consistent, but probably complains about some limitations,

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especially

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distance.

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Not an awful move.

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Okay, so if we're looking at the overturner in the garage, again scanning,

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first thing

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that jumps out, it could be because the shirt will look at dynamically, you can

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see there's

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not really an extension of those hips, right?

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The pelvis is still tipped forward, the hip is still in slight flexion, ankles

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kind of

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look okay, not a lot of knee extension, that makes sense with the hips, pretty

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good spine

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extension and shoulders don't look like they're in too much of a problem, you

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know, that

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elbow to spine angle looks pretty good there, let's see what it looks like

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dynamically.

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Alright, so now let's do face on first.

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Okay, so we go through to that follow through position, and there's where the

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hip should

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continue extending, but we can see no extension from that hip, all the

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extension is happening

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more excessively here at the knees and then getting some up in that spine.

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Again, you know, not a drastic or dramatic finish issue, I think most of his is

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down

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here in the release, if we look from here, he does a pretty good job of

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maintaining that

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angle of the hip compared to the foot, maintain some spine angle, shoulders

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aren't too bad,

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maybe a little shrug of that left shoulder, like left shoulder is not quite

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working around

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the body at that point, staying in protraction maybe a bit too long, but the

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big thing is

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that excessive movement of the knees moving, compensating for the hip action,

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and then

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the lack of hip extension there in the follow through.

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Okay, so looking at this follow through position, like going on there, we can

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see the weight

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distribution, right, she's very centered, trail foot is still flat, so that's

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why we're

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not getting full pelvis rotation, we can see arms aren't, didn't stay in front,

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there's

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not a whole lot of width there, in fact, I don't even know if I can get my arm

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into

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that flexible finish position, so it looks like a lot of the speed was absorbed

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up in

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the shoulder girdle, with a little bit of rotation, definitely not a lot of

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vertical

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stuff happening, all right, so first we'll look at this face on, so we can see

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starting

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kind of right in here, that body is done and all that speed gets absorbed from

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the arms,

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so that's definitely, you know, there's not a lot of hip action going on, the

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hips stay

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in a little bit of flexion, and definitely we don't get the extension through

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the legs,

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so that kind of fits the puzzle, now this is the one where she's kind of

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pulling those

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arms in to decrease the lever arm, because if she kept her arms out wide, she

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would have

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to use like the bigger muscles to absorb the speed, instead of if she pulls it

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in close

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that decreases, you know, the effort required from the body to move the club,

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she can do

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it much easier, you can move it just with your arms when it's in close a whole

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lot easier

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than when it's out there, when it's out there you're going to want to use the

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bigger muscles,

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so what do we see from the down the line, probably, so we're going to see that

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arms staying very

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low, right, so that's a classic sign of the arm retraction kind of whipping the

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club around,

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so potentially that's a lead arm pull, just as much as it is a trail arm throw,

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when you

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see that lead shoulder kind of really pulling around like that, that'd be

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something to

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investigate, and it's just another view of what we see with not a whole lot of

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hitting

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it with the hip, so some sort of triangle 9 to 3 would probably work pretty

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well in this

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case, just to kind of get the sense of where we want the pelvis to finish and

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how we want

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it to work through the hitting area, okay, so not a bad look and follow through

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, not a

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lot of shrugging, definitely lacking some spine extension, especially in the

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upper thoracic,

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that's kind of common, and we can see kind of lacking some of the mid thoracic

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right

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bend, it's getting maybe a little bit of sag of that right hip, but overall not

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too bad,

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let's see what it looks like dynamically, okay, so as he gets swinging you'll

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see

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going through there's kind of this little chase move of the upper body, that's

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when he's looking

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for a different way to absorb the speed, he could be going into extension and

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that would

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create more of a fuller looking finish, but that extension would have to happen

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from the

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hips in the upper spine, he doesn't look like he wants to do that, from the

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down the line,

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there's kind of that more arm movement, so there's not a lot of kind of

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pressure happening,

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there's not a lot of movement in the core and the legs, but overall kind of

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geometry for an

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upper body dominant swing, eight to bed, he doesn't like lose a lot of the

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integrity in the shoulder,

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it's just not being powered enough from the body to carry it all the way to a

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full finish,

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not bad, okay so looking at a couple tour pros, we got body scan looking at hip

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shoulders core

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and feet, so here we got Rory, if we go through from this follow through

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position, you'll see

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arms are staying out wide, kind of wrist, wrist or moving with it, so it's kind

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of like he's

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holding on to a cable that's pulling him and his body, his ribs are moving with

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it and extending,

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his hip is moving with it and extending, he's getting through into that,

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getting pulled into a

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total body kind of rotational pattern, you'll see that the shoulders maybe a

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little bit of trail,

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or lead, sorry trail shoulder hike, I always get confused in the follow through

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, but overall

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very good looking shoulder integrity, so if we go just to that

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finish position and you'll see he drifts a little bit out of the the side bend,

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that's part of why

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that trail or that right shoulder had to have a little bit more of the shrug,

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kind of so there

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might be something going on in that sling there, but overall elbows shoulders

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maintain pretty good

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extension or width staying in front of the chest, so he hasn't collapsed there,

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his body has kept

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going with it, but not excessive just rotation, there's the vertical movement

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and extension of the

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hip, overall great looking positions, all right finished positions are a little

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boring, but let's

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at least at the tour level, so here we go from follow through taking him up

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into that finished

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position, you'll see lots of movement and flexibility in the hips, because he's

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actually getting past,

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let's see where he's compensating, because he's getting a lot of movement in

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the ankle,

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but a lot of internal rotation at that hip, so potentially the abs and the core

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aren't absorbing

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enough, kind of avoids using the abs a little bit, you'll see that through

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there the hips keep

507
00:27:54.760 --> 00:28:01.560
rotating, the ankles rotate, but the ribs don't really move a lot through there

508
00:28:01.560 --> 00:28:02.760
compared to how

509
00:28:02.760 --> 00:28:09.640
much the arms move and compared to how much the hips move, so he does a good

510
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:10.440
job of keeping the

511
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:17.310
shoulder integrity, but the differential between his chest and his hips is kind

512
00:28:17.310 --> 00:28:19.720
of low, his ribs

513
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:24.290
look like they're not moving quite as well as say we saw with Rory, but really

514
00:28:24.290 --> 00:28:25.400
good hip extension,

515
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:29.840
lots of hip flexibility, little danger getting in the outside of the ankle that

516
00:28:29.840 --> 00:28:32.120
much, but if he was

517
00:28:32.120 --> 00:28:36.510
gonna not do that he'd have to absorb it more with the core or with the abs,

518
00:28:36.510 --> 00:28:38.920
again looking at

519
00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:46.350
the positions I like to see that looks really good, shaft angle, elbow line,

520
00:28:46.350 --> 00:28:48.920
lead hip to foot,

521
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.200
all that stuff looks really consistent, that's probably part of the reason why

522
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:53.160
he's such a

523
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:59.390
consistent ball striker, okay so again when you're scanning these positions,

524
00:28:59.390 --> 00:29:00.840
just wanted to look

525
00:29:00.840 --> 00:29:03.210
through and talk through a couple, but when you're scanning these positions you

526
00:29:03.210 --> 00:29:03.880
're looking at

527
00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:09.240
from the arm perspective, one's work top down, you've got your shoulder

528
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:09.800
rotation,

529
00:29:09.800 --> 00:29:14.580
scapular position, especially looking at how much shrug and protraction, ret

530
00:29:14.580 --> 00:29:15.400
raction you got going

531
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:20.200
on, you got the abs versus the core, or sorry the abs and the core looking at

532
00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:21.880
glutes versus back,

533
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:27.400
so hip extension versus back extension versus hip flexion going using the hip

534
00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:28.520
flexors or quad,

535
00:29:28.520 --> 00:29:32.530
like little knee buckles, and then where is the spinous extending, is it

536
00:29:32.530 --> 00:29:34.520
happening in the thoracic

537
00:29:34.520 --> 00:29:40.580
spine, the ribs, or is it just happening, so is it happening in the thoracic

538
00:29:40.580 --> 00:29:42.360
spine, or is it happening

539
00:29:42.360 --> 00:29:47.640
down in the lumbar spine, so or is it happening throughout the whole spine,

540
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:48.280
which would be more

541
00:29:48.280 --> 00:29:53.000
ideal, or is there no extension, it's just staying in flexion and getting all

542
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.520
of the lift from

543
00:29:54.520 --> 00:29:58.250
the arms, which is a common pattern you'll see, especially with some of your

544
00:29:58.250 --> 00:29:58.920
older guys,

545
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:03.820
foot connection, are we ending up all the way on the outside of the toes, or

546
00:30:03.820 --> 00:30:04.760
are we ending up on

547
00:30:04.760 --> 00:30:10.590
the cuboid, if you're on the cuboid you'll have a little bit of inversion of

548
00:30:10.590 --> 00:30:12.440
the foot, or getting

549
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:16.320
to the outside of the foot, but not like a Jordan speed, or you know all the

550
00:30:16.320 --> 00:30:17.160
way on the outside of

551
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:21.110
the ankle, and then is the trail foot fully extended, is the knee fully

552
00:30:21.110 --> 00:30:23.720
extended, those can give you

553
00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.910
insights into how they're using that right leg, are they going through

554
00:30:26.910 --> 00:30:28.440
extension, or are they just

555
00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:35.280
turning, so if I'm going through like a triple extension pattern, then as I'm

556
00:30:35.280 --> 00:30:36.760
going through,

557
00:30:36.760 --> 00:30:40.810
this foot is kind of pushing, that knee is pushing, all that is done, so that I

558
00:30:40.810 --> 00:30:42.440
'm getting full glute

559
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:49.230
activity there, where if I kind of stay level and kind of spin more, then that

560
00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:51.080
foot will tend to

561
00:30:51.080 --> 00:30:55.880
kick back, kind of like so, so you'll see by the finish position that there's a

562
00:30:55.880 --> 00:30:57.320
blend of rotation,

563
00:30:57.320 --> 00:31:03.880
as well as vertical force. So Michael Manavian posted a picture a little while

564
00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:04.280
back, I thought

565
00:31:04.280 --> 00:31:09.010
this would be perfect for the finish position, it was kind of an attack at Nick

566
00:31:09.010 --> 00:31:10.040
Faldo, at least

567
00:31:10.040 --> 00:31:14.380
that's how I interpreted it, but it is interesting to see this is what happened

568
00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:16.200
throughout his career,

569
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:20.680
you can you can see over here on the right is young Nick Faldo, you can see

570
00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:22.040
full hip and leg

571
00:31:22.040 --> 00:31:27.530
extension, you know maybe elbow is a little high in shafts oracle, but that was

572
00:31:27.530 --> 00:31:28.760
a little bit more

573
00:31:28.760 --> 00:31:35.250
part classic with that, the swing style in that day, but lots of rotation, lots

574
00:31:35.250 --> 00:31:36.200
of extension,

575
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:41.220
and you'll see throughout the years he got less hip extension, less spine

576
00:31:41.220 --> 00:31:42.680
extension,

577
00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:48.750
so the arm might be a little bit higher, these are pretty close to the same,

578
00:31:48.750 --> 00:31:50.200
but you can just see

579
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:56.190
dynamically there's a lot less going on in the core, now it's no secret that he

580
00:31:56.190 --> 00:31:58.040
kind of prioritized

581
00:31:58.040 --> 00:32:05.090
accuracy over power, and so using his body less effectively didn't really hurt

582
00:32:05.090 --> 00:32:06.040
his goals, but it

583
00:32:06.040 --> 00:32:09.980
probably shortened his career because he started getting lapped in terms of

584
00:32:09.980 --> 00:32:11.720
distance, so just thought

585
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:18.770
that was an interesting thing, interesting way to look at what like how you can

586
00:32:18.770 --> 00:32:19.560
use the finish

587
00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:22.470
just to see all right how much of their body are they using, are they using

588
00:32:22.470 --> 00:32:23.480
their whole body to

589
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:29.440
swing this club or are they just using their arms, okay so now with Mr. Good

590
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:31.000
looking swing here,

591
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:37.930
pretty much all the key checkpoints maybe a little bit going on there, maybe a

592
00:32:37.930 --> 00:32:39.880
little bit of kind of

593
00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:47.520
excessive rotation here, maybe not quite some hip extension, let's look at it

594
00:32:47.520 --> 00:32:48.680
dynamically,

595
00:32:48.680 --> 00:33:00.840
okay so from this follow-through position we can see kind of coming out of the

596
00:33:00.840 --> 00:33:01.560
extension of the

597
00:33:01.560 --> 00:33:08.190
hips instead of continuing to go into it, so again a little like excessive

598
00:33:08.190 --> 00:33:10.440
extension from the legs,

599
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:15.490
not quite as much, so excessive extension from the knees, not quite as much

600
00:33:15.490 --> 00:33:16.600
from the hips,

601
00:33:16.600 --> 00:33:27.520
so that's where we'll see through there it's kind of like mostly rotation

602
00:33:27.520 --> 00:33:28.680
instead of having a little

603
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:32.280
bit more of the vertical force, if the vertical was happening from the legs

604
00:33:32.280 --> 00:33:33.560
then he might have to have

605
00:33:33.560 --> 00:33:40.610
a little bit more rotation from the ribs, so he gets a little excess happening

606
00:33:40.610 --> 00:33:41.960
at the knees and a

607
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:46.760
little excess happening at the shoulders, those are both kind of avoiding this

608
00:33:46.760 --> 00:33:49.160
hip and core part of

609
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:54.350
the equation just a little bit, but overall really good looking move, all right

610
00:33:54.350 --> 00:33:55.400
our main brooks,

611
00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:03.160
so brooks here we've got very little pelvis rotation, more borax and shoulder

612
00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:04.440
rotation,

613
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:10.930
don't even get to some of the checkpoints but the arms stay in front, not a ton

614
00:34:10.930 --> 00:34:11.800
of shrugging,

615
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:17.120
maybe not a lot of hip extension but not too shabby, let's see what it looks

616
00:34:17.120 --> 00:34:18.520
like dynamically,

617
00:34:18.520 --> 00:34:25.570
all right so looking at it dynamically, this is a good one for just kind of

618
00:34:25.570 --> 00:34:26.200
understanding

619
00:34:26.200 --> 00:34:30.860
this whole find the fixed point and what's moving, what's not idea, so on the

620
00:34:30.860 --> 00:34:33.000
way through you'll see

621
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:37.130
if you look at the right ankle just stare right here where the mouse is, if you

622
00:34:37.130 --> 00:34:38.280
look at that right

623
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.090
ankle there's not a lot of movement, if you look at the knee that right knee

624
00:34:42.090 --> 00:34:43.080
there's not a lot of

625
00:34:43.080 --> 00:34:46.560
movement, if you look at the hip there's not a lot of movement, he's basically

626
00:34:46.560 --> 00:34:47.720
locked that right leg

627
00:34:47.720 --> 00:34:52.570
against the ground, that's the fixed point for his shoulder to then kind of

628
00:34:52.570 --> 00:34:53.720
throw past, so you'll

629
00:34:53.720 --> 00:35:01.480
see that right arm extension and kind of internal rotation whip the club over

630
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.320
all through there,

631
00:35:03.320 --> 00:35:08.840
so he's created this fixed point down here around his pelvis, probably into his

632
00:35:08.840 --> 00:35:09.800
ribs so that the

633
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:18.610
shoulder can internally rotate even faster, so we don't get, this probably is

634
00:35:18.610 --> 00:35:20.600
little rotation

635
00:35:20.600 --> 00:35:26.360
of the pelvis as I've seen, maybe it's a little bit more there, but overall

636
00:35:26.360 --> 00:35:27.880
this is very much an

637
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:32.140
upper body dominant swing with a lower body brake or lower body support or

638
00:35:32.140 --> 00:35:34.440
encouraging that upper

639
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:39.780
body movement, now it's pretty, I would expect to see a lot more early

640
00:35:39.780 --> 00:35:41.480
extension, but he gets

641
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:45.720
more of that the shallowing and early extension movement from his upper body

642
00:35:45.720 --> 00:35:46.600
moving backward

643
00:35:46.600 --> 00:35:51.790
rather than his legs moving in, he kind of keeps that lower body very fixed,

644
00:35:51.790 --> 00:35:52.600
that probably helps

645
00:35:52.600 --> 00:35:58.210
minimize some of the chaos but it also limits some of the power, all right,

646
00:35:58.210 --> 00:35:59.320
looking at this position

647
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.790
other than maybe, okay we've got a vertical shaft and maybe the elbow's touch

648
00:36:04.790 --> 00:36:05.800
high, but overall

649
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:13.070
good integrity in the shoulder is good symmetric extension, good location there

650
00:36:13.070 --> 00:36:14.120
, maybe a

651
00:36:14.120 --> 00:36:20.920
tad on the outside of the foot, so maybe a little excessive lower body rotation

652
00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:21.400
action,

653
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:26.760
because we can see this foot and this foot, let's take a look at it dynamically

654
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.240
, so from the face on

655
00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:36.710
view, he's kind of deceiving us here in the finish position, because if we look

656
00:36:36.710 --> 00:36:38.040
at it through

657
00:36:38.040 --> 00:36:43.660
there, not a lot of hip extension, definitely more of a rotation movement, but

658
00:36:43.660 --> 00:36:44.760
then he kind of

659
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.740
masks it to get into a really good looking finish position, so glad we got this

660
00:36:49.740 --> 00:36:51.080
one in here, he'll

661
00:36:51.080 --> 00:36:56.060
show you how when you're looking at the release, you've got to look at it in

662
00:36:56.060 --> 00:36:57.400
kind of the purity

663
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.990
of what's happening in the release, because sometimes what they do is that they

664
00:37:00.990 --> 00:37:01.480
kind of

665
00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.490
do a move that isn't great and then they kind of fake it and get to the

666
00:37:05.490 --> 00:37:06.520
position that they

667
00:37:06.520 --> 00:37:13.930
think they should, so if we look at it more through there, kind of upper body

668
00:37:13.930 --> 00:37:15.080
dominant,

669
00:37:15.080 --> 00:37:21.570
club kind of whips over and then he gets into that more body movement, so the

670
00:37:21.570 --> 00:37:22.200
timing

671
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:30.760
isn't really what we would expect to see or what we saw with Rory and Colin, so

672
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:37.320
he's got the physical capability to get there, means that it's more of a

673
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.000
coordination/movement

674
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:44.960
pattern rather than avoiding it. All right, and then one of the best, great

675
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.120
extension, look at that

676
00:37:46.680 --> 00:37:52.840
tiptoe leg extension, we had a touch shoulder, we had kind of a higher finish,

677
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:53.720
let's look at the

678
00:37:53.720 --> 00:38:00.770
great Jack Nicholas dynamically, all right, dynamically, we got Golden Bear

679
00:38:00.770 --> 00:38:03.240
getting into all

680
00:38:03.240 --> 00:38:07.300
these classic positions, come on, okay, so we get into that follow through

681
00:38:07.300 --> 00:38:08.360
position and then

682
00:38:10.040 --> 00:38:16.000
just a little bit of arm extension, so potentially he would have had to absorb

683
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:17.320
a little bit more in

684
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:23.150
that shoulder girdle, he's got a little shrug going on there, so that shrug and

685
00:38:23.150 --> 00:38:24.360
lift is kind of the

686
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:29.110
way that he's using his upper trap and deltoids to kind of absorb it versus if

687
00:38:29.110 --> 00:38:30.520
he had those shoulders

688
00:38:30.520 --> 00:38:35.770
kind of more retracted and spinning around, he would be doing it more from the

689
00:38:35.770 --> 00:38:37.480
core and he'd feel

690
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:44.850
kind of a little bit more wit through there, but great hip extension, again, it

691
00:38:44.850 --> 00:38:46.680
's a non-critical

692
00:38:46.680 --> 00:38:52.200
aspect, be curious if he has any shoulder or neck issues at this point, but

693
00:38:52.200 --> 00:39:02.040
he had to find any flaws in this guy's movement, but my job is to help you just

694
00:39:02.040 --> 00:39:03.320
look at the movement

695
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:09.510
objectively and not get too swayed by who's doing it or how well it's working,

696
00:39:09.510 --> 00:39:10.280
if we're looking,

697
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:15.960
if we're scanning each of our key segments, looks good, looks good, looks good,

698
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:16.760
could be slightly

699
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.850
improved, but looks pretty good, so hopefully this whole series has helped you

700
00:39:20.850 --> 00:39:21.720
come up with a

701
00:39:21.720 --> 00:39:27.420
different way to look at movement and giving you some ideas on how to analyze

702
00:39:27.420 --> 00:39:28.600
the golf swing

703
00:39:28.600 --> 00:39:32.940
based on the key positional references as well as what's happening dynamically

704
00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:33.400
through those

705
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:39.640
phases so that you can understand those key positional checkpoints may be even

706
00:39:39.640 --> 00:39:40.360
a little bit

707
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:45.690
deeper. As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to email or

708
00:39:45.690 --> 00:39:46.600
comment and

709
00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:52.360
look forward to checking out the second part of level two when we start diving

710
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:53.720
into the 3D graphs

711
00:39:53.720 --> 00:39:54.760
coming up soon.

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