P1 to P2 - Takeaway

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Alright so here we are digging through starting the swing so we're going to

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take a look at the takeaway or going from P1 to P2 or initiating the movement

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however you want to phrase it.

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We're going to talk about arms versus body turn versus lift and then some of

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the key anatomy structures that we mentioned in the kind of the first year

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program.

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Okay so here we go quick refresher on the key movement guide so we're going to

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look at what's moving what's not find the fixed point.

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Think relationally so local versus global kind of what's happening at the joint

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versus what's happening at the surface inside out stabilizers versus movers.

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Not going to talk too much about lever arms and this that's more about speed,

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why we'll maybe a little bit talking about the path in the face, what gets

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loaded gets unloaded so we'll talk about why golfers might have certain

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movements in their takeaway,

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which relates to the work the pattern backwards so the takeaway sets things up

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for what the brain wants to do in the downswing or I always say the backswing

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is like a look into the future of what the brain wants to do.

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So just because we're going to talk about the takeaway in this first doesn't

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mean that I would necessarily address the takeaway first in trying to solve it.

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And then the pushing the car analogies more of a downswing sequence so the ones

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that really apply what's moving what's not find the fixed point.

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Relationally inside out and what's loaded gets unloaded.

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Alright, so just so that we're on the same page.

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Here's what we're talking about as far as some basic checkpoints for setup or P

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And we'll just go through them kind of top to bottom left to right so we got

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arm hang which basically looking at the structure of where the hands compared

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to the shoulder socket that involves like when we're looking at that we can

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think

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about well what influence would that have on the neck, what influence would

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that have on the shoulder and therefore the connection to the core.

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Looking at alignment, we want to scan forearm alignment shoulder alignment.

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You can look at ribs as well I don't have it on that list but pelvis thighs

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feet basically working from the club backwards.

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Now as you start getting towards the pelvis and feet keep in mind that some

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minor asymmetry is normal.

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And usually your representation of what's going on at the pelvis very few

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people have a truly level pelvis so that naturally creates one leg that's a

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little bit shorter than the other.

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And so having a little bit of rotation or a little bit of shift to try to try

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to forward the golfer to try to level out the pelvis that's kind of natural.

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So there's sometimes where a lower body alignment you're not going to be able

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to really influence because of what's going on with the pelvis unless they're

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really working on it.

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And then hips to feet line is kind of looking at where is the tailbone compared

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to the feet that can you know where the shoulders compared to the toes where's

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the tailbone compared to the heels that can help give you a rough estimate as

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far as weight distribution.

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From the face on view we can look at axis tilt so sternum to pelvis kind of

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looking at that we can look at grip strength and grip location.

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And we can look at weight distribution so we can look at to look at weight

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distribution from right to left you can basically look at where is the pelvis

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compared to the heels.

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Or what kind of angle do you see at each of the legs the one that is more

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vertical will typically have more weight.

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Okay so then the takeaway takes us to P2 or when the club is parallel to the

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ground.

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So here we can look at what's going on in the trail arm by looking at the

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amount of bend that can give you an indication as far as what the right side of

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the body or the trail side of the body is doing.

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We've got the shoulder hip slash tilt so starting to look at the angle making

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sure that neither of them are turning to level.

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Hip turn versus chest turn so looking at the spacing of the knees and looking

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at the amount of chest to see how much the ribs the spine and the lower body

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have have turned to take it away.

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Second we can look at the club face location so looking at is it parallel to

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the spine is it closed is it toe up not making too big of a judgment at this

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point just kind of observations.

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We can also look at the hands to club to look at the club path this camera

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angle is not 100% down the hand line so it'll make it look a little bit more

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close I naturally or a little more inside I almost always bring the club a

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little bit inside.

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Sometimes one was swinging really well it's in line with the hands but if I don

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't work on it it tends to come inside a little bit but it's not quite as much as

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that camera angle is showing.

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From the face on view you can look at the shoulder tilt you can look at sway

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versus turn this is a much better view for looking at the extension of the

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spine so to see if the head is moving off the ball or if the spine is starting

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to go into extension or get flat at that point.

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You can also see from this view what's happening at the foot have they already

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started to sway to the outside of the foot or is the inside edge of the foot

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still keeping pressure.

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Then you can also start to see the trail arm bend from this view as well. One

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indication on the arm bend is you can start to look at the height of the club

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compared to where it was set up and see how much the arms have been lifted as

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opposed to swung back.

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Okay so the major goals of the takeaway are to shift pressure that's going to

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become an important part of the transition and so shifting it there quickly and

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a fair amount is helpful for what we want to do in transition.

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We're trying to start the face to path relationship so if you get too far

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inside or too far outside that can cause problems especially on less than full

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shots or specific clubs.

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And then we want to load the muscles, we want to load the muscles or start

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loading the muscles that we're going to use in transition.

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And so oftentimes what we'll see is the takeaway movement gives us a glimpse

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into what they want to do in transition because it shows us they're going to

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load the muscles that they're going to want to fire in transition.

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Okay so now if we're looking through our movement takeaway goal.

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Everything that I've seen says that the first movement starts at the left foot,

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which totally makes sense if I'm going to rotate away from the target if I'm

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going to rotate this direction.

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I have the options from my lower body, I have the options from my lower body of

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pushing my left foot away so pushing that way or pulling my right leg or

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pulling my pelvis with the inside of my right leg.

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So it would make sense that I would want to use the left hip muscles, they're

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going to be a little bit more forceful in terms of pushing me away or sorry

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pushing me away from that into right word rotation.

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Now that movement can be a combination of external rotation of the hip, it can

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be an abduction or pulling that leg outward, more of a lateral, almost like a

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skater type movement, and it can be a little bit of an extension of the knee if

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you're using a lot of the quad.

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Now keep in mind if we're thinking globally and we're thinking inside out to

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push the left foot.

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I want to stabilize my core, I want to initiate from the core first so I want

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my TVA to create a stable platform for the pelvis, maybe even a little bit of

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my six pack abs so that when I go to initiate or when I go to use the glute

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muscles.

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It doesn't pull my spine out of position, or if I was to go to use the quad,

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which wouldn't be ideal but again, I wouldn't want it to pull my pelvis out of

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position, I need to create a stable platform to transfer that energy down the

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leg and into the foot.

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Now just because that's what we see doesn't mean that that's what everybody

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does, there are some takeaway alternatives. So some golfers will look at some

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videos here coming up shortly, some golfers will tend to start at the shoulders

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and either lift or pull on the club more with the arms.

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It's usually the left arm, either the peck or deltoid or it was the main two,

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it can't actually be the bicep as well.

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And the trail arm is often either the bicep, the lat or even the mid trap rhomb

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oids, like the shoulder blade movement kind of pulling on the lawn mower, kind

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of like that.

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So as far as core alternatives, if I'm not going to use the legs, if I'm not

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going to use the glutes, then I could always start it more with my core, or I

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could start it with my back.

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So the core in the back are going to look somewhat similar, but if you

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experiment with it, you can feel slight different patterns, where if I'm doing

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it more from lifting or going into slight extension, that's going to have less

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of a rotational look and more of kind of a arm shoulder look to it, even though

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it was initiated from the back.

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As far as the obliques go, the obliques are going to have a little bit more

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side bend built into their movement because they move the body obliquely, that

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's how they got their name.

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So those are just kind of the general patterns, but now let's take a look at

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some examples before we dive into a little bit more of the theory.

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Okay, so I've got someone some slides and some will just pull up.

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Here we've got a member of the site named Alan, and that's going to be a little

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bit in our way.

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So I'm just going to kind of scrub it back and forth a few times, and then we

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'll dig in.

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Okay, so just scan, you know, either from top down or bottom up, and then let's

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talk about what we might have saw.

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Okay, so the things that will be the most apparent are, you can see his head

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rotation to start the movement, and you'll see his lack of lower body movement

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to start the movement.

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Well, if we zoom in, or if we focus, I should say, you'll tend to see right

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before he starts, right there, right before he starts, as his head is going to

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shift, you'll see that he flexes both of his knees, and they actually go out a

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little bit.

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So if I was to pinpoint that little movement right as he starts, his knees are

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going out like that.

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I'm exaggerating, but he's basically going like this.

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Now that's not really good for rotating, because they're both going out equally

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, but that activates my glutes, stabilizes my pelvis, so that makes it really

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easy for a more stable fixed point at the pelvis for me to then move my arms.

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The head rotation could be something going on visually, but oftentimes that

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head rotation is going to create a little bit of tension on one side of the

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neck.

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When you create tension on the neck, that actually creates a more strong fixed

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point for the shoulder, so typically, if he turns his head, he's doing more of

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a side bend.

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The other thing that that can do, similar to how we talked about the pelvis

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being pretty level, or having asymmetric legs helps balance out the pelvis, oft

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entimes if your neck doesn't have perfect alignment, then these little head

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movements help get the cervical spine in alignment so that it can turn better.

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I haven't talked with him or screened him or any of that stuff, so there's a

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couple different reasons he might be doing that head movement, but if we're

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looking at the takeaway, if I was to break him down, we go, knees get wide,

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arms start moving, and then rib cage tends to move more laterally.

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We'll talk about everything after here in the next webinar, not this one. This

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one we're just covering from here to there. We can see there's definitely a

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mechanical pattern where it's more upper body dominant, and the knees just

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reveal that he's using his pelvis more for stability, rather than to initiate

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the movement.

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I often refer to this as more of a back lift or a back move instead of a back

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swing.

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All right, here's another fun amateur call Mr. Happy Feet, so we can see, you

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know, if we're looking through this, there's decent movement of the lower body.

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You can see that the club might get just a touch outside. We'll identify that a

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little bit later, but the interesting thing is more, you'll see, picks up his

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left foot and actually rotates it out.

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Can you see that? It starts kind of square, and then it moves just slightly out

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, and then as he shifts his weight, he picks up his left heel.

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So left heel comes up, and then left heel goes down.

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Now this could just be kind of a rhythm thing, but let's talk through why

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someone might do that. When you pick up that toe, you're most likely activating

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to be allesanterior, or one of muscles on your left foot.

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Or one of muscles on the front of the shin.

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That creates a better fixed point and more tension for this quad on the left

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side.

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The other thing that it does is when you pull it open or up and out like that,

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that actually creates knee rotation.

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So those are two different signs that he's using more of his knees to initiate

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that movement rather than the hips.

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And you'll see that as he starts the club back, his hips are actually rotating

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in the opposite direction.

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Again, sorry, his pelvis is rotating in the opposite direction, but his knee

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and ankle are rotating in the correct direction.

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So he's doing this more from the lower limbs, less from the core.

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Same thing over here on the right side.

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So when he goes on to the toes, going on to the toe typically puts more tension

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here in the quad.

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So if you think of a soccer player changing direction, it's very hard for them

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to do it from their heels, it's much easier to do it from the toe or the front

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of the leg.

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And that's because it creates the tension going through the quad.

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So I can either lift up the toe to help stabilize the knee.

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That helps rotate the tibia outward.

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Or I could push into the toe so that I can rotate the pelvis stronger from the

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quad.

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So one of them is a little bit more knee dominant, one of them is more pelvis

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dominant.

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But you can see Mr. Happy Feet, oftentimes those happy feet are a way of using

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the knees or the quads instead of the glutes and the core.

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Okay, and then we'll look at one more example before we get into a little bit

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more theory after looking for at a couple of tour pros.

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And this one is just a blurry clip, but I want you to see, you can see minor,

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not a whole lot of lower body movement.

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You'll see that the knees tend to move more laterally, and it's a bigger, it's

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kind of an upper body shift.

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So he's shifting the pressure a lot, but we're seeing that it's mostly

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happening from the upper body.

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He's using his lower body more as an anchor to help stabilize the pelvis.

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Okay, so now let's look through a number of tour pros, and we'll start to see a

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much more consistent pattern.

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And there's that pattern right there. There's a little bit of a pelvis shift

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laterally just before the grip starts moving.

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And then the pelvis shift continues as the core and the shoulders bring the

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club back, or the core and the rib cage bring the club back.

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So I like these clips that are both face on and down the line so you can kind

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of see it.

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You'll see the pelvis and the club and the rib cage are moving at a little bit

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more of a consistent rate, but he had that little bump to start it.

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So one of the more exaggerated takeaways is Rory.

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So sometimes it's hard to get the clips that have like a really good takeaway.

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You'll see he lifts his thumb, his head has a little counter rotation, but the

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big thing is you'll see from here, there's a little kind of squat and shift.

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And you'll see he actually pushes off the toe. If you remember, we were looking

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at the amateur pushing off the heel with the toe off the ground to initiate the

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more common pattern.

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This here where basically the foot is pushing up and away against the ground to

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rotate and open the lower body.

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So you'll typically see this exaggerated movement on long hitters who grew up

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probably skinny because they had to kind of maximize the use of what's going on

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with the legs.

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Okay, one more fun one. We all know Matt Wolf has the crazy, crazy takeaway,

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right?

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Where he's starting with that counter rotation, but if we look at it, it's

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actually pretty classic.

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If we were to start his swing there, right, all this is kind of a rhythm move,

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more of a trigger.

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But then when he gets into the actual movement pattern with a little bit of

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forward press, as he's starting that forward press, he's starting that lower

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body or that weight shift.

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And then basically continues that movement. The pelvis is bringing the club

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back to there. The arms are lifting more in this pattern than, say, in most,

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but you can see that lower body having just a slight lateral and rotational

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pressure shift to get things moving in the right direction.

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Okay, so we're not just going to look at swings for the whole presentation. Let

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's talk a little bit of theory.

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So when it comes to looking at turn, if we're looking at how a golfer who is

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doing primarily rotation, these are kind of the traits or the muscles that we

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're going to look at.

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So the glutes are going to be a big part of the hip rotation, combined with the

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adductors on the opposite side, but typically the glutes on the side initiating

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the movement will be one of the more important muscles for this turn component.

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That will then be complemented by, to rotate the spine, there's two main

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muscles who interact together.

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So if you remember from the core, your oblique goes from your ribs down to your

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pelvis, it's one of the few muscles that does have an attachment that crosses

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the midline, makes it really powerful rotator.

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But it moves me obliquely, so when it activates, it pulls me down and across

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like this.

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So in order for me to do that, I need to balance it with the transverseospinal

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is, which is a smaller muscle, but there's many of them.

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And so when you're looking at the volume, you can actually rotate pretty

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powerfully with the small little muscle because there's four of them attached

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to each vertebral segment.

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Three or four, depending on what part of the spine.

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So the abs and the transverseospinalis are the big rotators of the spine, and

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then that's more the inner unit, and then you've got the lat, which can help

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with rotation as well, in concert with the transverseospinalis.

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Okay, to bring the arms along for the ride, so this is the first, we're really

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talking about this kind of like one piece takeaway where the shoulders are

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working in concert with the core, as opposed to moving my arms more

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independently.

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Specifically, not so much my arms, but looking at my shoulder blade movement

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moving independently.

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So the connection, that stability, largely comes from serratus anterior if done

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correctly, so the inside of the shoulder blade there.

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But it could also come from the pec or corko brachialis, it could come from the

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lat, it could come from subscapularis, a little bit tricep, there's any of the

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muscles that kind of cover that armpit area could be involved, but the one that

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I really like to get involved is serratus anterior.

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From a fixed point perspective, this is the one where, classically, you'll see

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it in kind of the middle of the left foot.

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So it basically grips against the ground, so then I can spiral that whole leg

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away from it.

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Now the trail leg must receive it, so the fixed point is going to quickly move

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to the right leg, and it's going to stay more on the inside, almost underneath

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the big toe.

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That's where the fascia link for the glute ultimately connects through the gl

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ute connects to the knee, if you remember.

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I'm going to talk about some of these details, so the glute has the superficial

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and deep fibers, the deep fibers connect up here, but the superficial fibers

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connect all the way down here to the lateral tubercle of the tibia.

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And then that goes through posterior tibialis, which wraps underneath and

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connects right underneath there, right underneath the big toe.

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So if you want full tension going into that glute, you put pressure on the

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inside of the big toe.

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When you see golfers moving towards the outside of the foot, it's a slightly

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different line, typically that goes more into the quad and contributes more to

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an arm pull pattern, as opposed to a leg or hip driven pattern.

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So that's why you'll see a lot of guys who do the pressure studies, we'll talk

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about that first knuckle of the big toe being like one of the million dollar

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pressure points that good players don't move too much laterally off of that

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where amateurs can shift quite far off of it.

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Okay, so the sway pattern, this happens more of a lateral push, this usually

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happens more from a knee, but it can also be driven by kind of the lateral gl

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ute.

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The right foot or the trail foot isn't likely receiving the motion, meaning the

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foot might be just kind of rolling as a block, and more of the resistance is

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happening at the knee or the IT band.

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And we already talked about getting to the outside of the foot can be a really

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powerful lever for our powerful connection through the pelvis for pulling down

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with the upper body.

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So that can be one component, it's also a way to shift mass instead of just

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pressure, so you know a lot of people were brought, got into this game and were

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told you got to shift your weight and started thinking more about shifting mass

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instead of just shifting pressure.

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But it builds a fixed point, usually on the outer edge of the foot, not ideal

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for them, that lateral, what we want to initiate with in transition.

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And the pushing off of the outside edge of the foot is usually like, like I

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said, it's either connected to the upper body pole or a lateral movement, but

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it doesn't have a very good platform for for turning the tibia.

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So it doesn't have a very good platform for rotating the foot and the ankle, it

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's much more set up for pushing vertically.

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Okay, last major alternative would be more of a lifting pattern, this is the

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golfer who kind of sees the swing as more of an up and down action.

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Typically the lift is either going to come from kind of the front of the

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shoulder, kind of lifting, we've got anterior deltoid, we've got the pet can

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actually lift, you can do more of a bicep lift.

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Or I could actually be doing like a pull like an upper back type movement, you

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know, like a Jim Hardy one plane pulling back here.

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That can create too much of a lifting or arm dominant pattern.

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Typically, if you see this, if it's a true arm lift pattern, you'll see them

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like that first gentleman kind of lock out the knees, they'll lock out the

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lower body so the pelvis doesn't move a whole lot.

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It will be a lot harder to execute that lift pattern with really good pelvis

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movement.

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Okay, so that's the rough overview.

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So then when you're looking, you can scan through kind of what's happening in

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the shoulders, the core, the pelvis, not just looking at the checkpoints, but

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looking at how your golfer is moving from position one to position two.

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When we're looking at these position checkpoints, a couple things to keep in

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mind.

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Face and path checkpoints, basically, we want the club roughly in line with the

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hands with the club face that's, you know, closer to spine angle.

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We don't really like to see it any more open than vertical, but vertical is

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probably okay.

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Tempo wise, I have a phrase where I say it's called a backswing, not a back

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move.

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If your backswing is too slow, then it doesn't load the glue.

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So basically think of it as like, if I go to lift, have you ever gone to lift

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to say a carton of juice or milk that you thought was full and it was empty and

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you went to pick it up and it kind of went flying?

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And your brain actually kind of like, stop the muscle from lifting anymore,

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where if it had been heavy, you would have been able to activate the muscle

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longer and harder.

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So it's a weird dichotomy to think, if the object is too light, I can't apply

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maximum force to it.

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I need some resistance to activate all the motor units and get more muscle

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activity.

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Well, when it comes to my body, the speed will help me load the muscle and

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create more motor units.

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And because I'm going to use the same muscles to slow down my weight shift into

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this right leg, that I'm then going to use to fire in transition.

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That becomes a stretch shorten or pre stretch that allows me to fire more

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forcefully.

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So if I'm too slow in the backswing, I can't load my leg muscles as effectively

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as if I had a little bit quicker tempo.

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Position wise, if the club is too inside, then either I didn't have enough lift

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or I didn't have enough arm rotation or from a tilt perspective.

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If I kind of didn't have enough side tilt and didn't have any extension, so if

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I have more of a look like this, where the shoulders are turning level to the

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ground instead of a level to my spine angle, then that's going to cause the

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club to come inside.

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Typically, when it goes outside, you know, it's just not enough turn, not

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enough hips, not enough lower body.

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It's just an arm dominant lift type move. It is possible that I get too much

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side bend, but that's, for me, that's rare.

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And potentially, it could have not enough forearm roll as well.

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So if I get more shoulder rotation, that's going to help bring the arms up and

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keep them in plane.

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But if I go like this and I just didn't have enough of this forearm rotation,

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then it could cause the club to travel outside the plane.

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So, whether it's arm or forearm can have a big impact there.

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But I don't get overly nit picky as long as it's within, you know, kind of a

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reasonable range.

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So from a little bit inside to a little bit outside is fine.

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If it starts getting well inside the hip or, you know, well outside the hands,

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then I'll probably address it.

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But I'm usually looking takeaway wise for what's happening with the legs and

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the core, because I think that sets up what's going to happen in transition.

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More so than just having the perfect positions.

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All right, so key body relationships with the shoulders, slight arm rotation

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and good connection through that serratus anterior.

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When it comes to the ab core, I want the obliques and I want to make sure that

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the pelvis isn't losing its integrity so that the TBA is on.

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That way when I go to push the leg, I'm going to transfer more of that energy

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into the pelvis and ultimately up through the spine into the arms.

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So then last we've got looking at the hips and then the legs or the knees.

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Am I rotating and using my quads or am I using, sorry, rotating and using my gl

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utes or am I using more of my quads?

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You can get an idea of that based on where the weight distribution is in the

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foot as well as what other movements are happening.

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So remember thinking local and global, so global thinking the quads are going

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to help with some arm pull patterns more so than the glutes would.

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The glutes would help more with core rotation.

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Okay, common assessment that I use for the takeaway, which I teach in the in-

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person clinic, is the resisted takeaway drill, which is basically when a golfer,

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I've just got putter nearby, but I'll have a golfer get in their setup position

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and I'll just have them rotate against some resistance and that way I can kind

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of feel are they doing it more from their arms or are they doing it from the

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hips.

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So this is where we can play around with kind of feeling some muscle activ

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ations.

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You'll tend to feel the whole club move not just the club head.

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So if I'm up here, if it's if it's just that, that's going to be more of kind

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of an arm pattern where if I'm giving it a little bit more of the whole club

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moving, that's usually happening with the core and the abs and the glutes.

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So you want to watch for tension when they're doing this movement. Are they

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really gripping the forearms? Are they tightening their jaw or their neck?

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All those different options can give you indicators of where they're moving

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from, but with some practice and what we teach in the live clinic, you can feel

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some more of it.

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Alright, let's take a look at a few more swings. Some of these submitted by the

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coaches. Couple that I just handpicked.

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So some of these swings I think will make more sense or be more useful in other

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phases, but here's a look at one of our coaches and we see pretty good kind of

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tour pattern, little weight shift initiation, actually really like that.

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There'll be some stuff we'll discuss for this one in transition that will

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probably make a little bit more sense.

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Now we do see from the down the line, there's a little bit more of kind of a

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knee set. So potentially that's leading us to think that maybe this is a little

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bit more knee centric instead of hip centric.

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00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:13.980
Let's see if we go back and look at this. And that's why having multiple views,

456
00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:17.000
you can see it's a lot harder to see from this face on view.

457
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:21.650
It just looks like a slight kind of sitting or lowering, but maybe a little

458
00:35:21.650 --> 00:35:26.000
knee centric, but definitely lower body leading the takeaway.

459
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:31.250
So overall, pretty good move. I'm just putting a watch on what's going on there

460
00:35:31.250 --> 00:35:36.240
and we'll take a look at that when we look at other phases of the swing, but

461
00:35:36.240 --> 00:35:39.000
you know, path and face checkpoints.

462
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:47.720
Everything looks pretty solid at this point. Maybe a touch of kind of upper

463
00:35:47.720 --> 00:35:54.000
body, upper body shift there at the kind of the second half of the takeaway, if

464
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:55.000
we will.

465
00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:01.450
Okay, so this submission, I want to thank our coaches. This is going to be a

466
00:36:01.450 --> 00:36:04.000
fun one to analyze down the road.

467
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:09.740
If we're just looking at takeaway, I'm like, okay, you know, club face is a

468
00:36:09.740 --> 00:36:14.000
little shut. He's got some funky wrist stuff going on here.

469
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:21.320
For sure. But if we look from here, okay, he's got a little bit of lower body

470
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:25.000
lead, fairly centered pivot idea.

471
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:29.340
We can, you know, this is an older clip or older video, so it's going to be

472
00:36:29.340 --> 00:36:34.080
hard to analyze some of the face path things, but we can see that the club face

473
00:36:34.080 --> 00:36:38.000
is quite shut at that position.

474
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:43.050
In fact, you can see how shut it is. I'll just let this play through so that

475
00:36:43.050 --> 00:36:48.460
you can enjoy what we're going to get to analyze later. This is definitely one

476
00:36:48.460 --> 00:36:54.000
of the more creative golf swings, I think I've ever seen.

477
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:59.360
So thanks for sending this in. Take a look at that position. Oh boy, we're

478
00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:04.000
going to analyze the heck out of this and some of the later ones.

479
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:08.760
But just as far as takeaway, there's some funky wrist, so some control things,

480
00:37:08.760 --> 00:37:13.000
but he's actually starting it with a pretty good muscle load pattern.

481
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:20.320
Okay, a couple more. Here we've got more of an upper body dominant pattern. You

482
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:26.710
'll see again, knee activity typically leads itself to stabilizing the pelvis so

483
00:37:26.710 --> 00:37:30.000
that the arms can move freer or better.

484
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:36.050
So what you'll see there, he's got that little use the quad stabilize the pel

485
00:37:36.050 --> 00:37:42.210
vis lift the arms club face gets in is, you know, he's got a stronger grip so it

486
00:37:42.210 --> 00:37:44.000
shows up closed.

487
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:48.950
He gets it a little inside because of the direction of the arm motion, but we

488
00:37:48.950 --> 00:37:54.230
would play around with that. But again, we'll see that little bounce move will

489
00:37:54.230 --> 00:37:59.000
kind of locks the pelvis in place so then the other upper body can get moving.

490
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:04.300
We'll look at some of the later swing or later classes. We'll take a look at

491
00:38:04.300 --> 00:38:09.000
this some more, but you can see even though the lower body leads.

492
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:13.970
So the system, you know, if I had him on 3D, it might look like he has a lower

493
00:38:13.970 --> 00:38:18.730
body lead. You can see visually that it's more of an upper body dominated swing

494
00:38:18.730 --> 00:38:19.000
.

495
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:24.300
The takeaway and some of the other factors kind of give a give away that he's

496
00:38:24.300 --> 00:38:30.000
using more his shoulder griddle and upper body, not so much the lower body.

497
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:37.320
Okay, one last coach submission. So again, we're going to we'll see some

498
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:41.000
interesting stuff in the release pattern when we get there for this gentleman.

499
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:46.320
But as far as the takeaway goes, if I'm just looking at this, it's a little bit

500
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:51.560
more of an upper body, but I'm thinking it's more of kind of chest and rib cage

501
00:38:51.560 --> 00:38:53.000
initiating it.

502
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:57.950
So it looks like he's using a fair amount of obliques and lats like it looks

503
00:38:57.950 --> 00:39:02.880
like the majority of what's moving is more here at the bottom of the rib cage

504
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:07.000
more more so than kind of really at the shoulder blades.

505
00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:12.490
And so that's part of what creates that lateral translation off the ball. From

506
00:39:12.490 --> 00:39:20.020
here, we'll see a little bit of that right leg action as kind of almost a

507
00:39:20.020 --> 00:39:24.000
trigger or counter rotation.

508
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:29.490
You will see that sometimes but it looks to me like timing lies that upper body

509
00:39:29.490 --> 00:39:34.910
is moving before that lower body really starts to get going and then once the

510
00:39:34.910 --> 00:39:39.000
upper body has momentum, the lower body gets in quick.

511
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:55.000
Now, path and face look like they're not too bad. So as far as takeaway goes

512
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:55.000
again, I don't think that's where this golfer is getting into a whole lot of

513
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:55.000
trouble. All I'm taking away from this is, alright, maybe we've got a chest or

514
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:55.000
upper body dominated swing.

515
00:39:55.000 --> 00:40:07.430
We'll have to wait and see how the rest of it unfolds. Okay, and then I wanted

516
00:40:07.430 --> 00:40:08.830
to end with one of the greatest Jack here. Now everybody always talked about

517
00:40:08.830 --> 00:40:11.000
that head turn as a trigger or sorry as like the initiation of his takeaway.

518
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:15.670
You'll see that there's a pause and then you'll see that the arms kind of move

519
00:40:15.670 --> 00:40:20.290
in or stiffen at the shoulder blade that's where he gets his arm connection

520
00:40:20.290 --> 00:40:25.900
piece. And then right there you'll see the weight shift move or the little

521
00:40:25.900 --> 00:40:29.000
pressure shift lower body is moving

522
00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:33.730
core is rotating. Everything looks really good through there. Now he's in this

523
00:40:33.730 --> 00:40:38.620
clip he's talking through so there's a bunch of weird kind of pauses but it was

524
00:40:38.620 --> 00:40:43.000
the best one I could find as far as boom looking at that takeaway.

525
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:48.780
Now he does it in a very kind of rhythmic head turn arms tightens weight shift

526
00:40:48.780 --> 00:40:53.000
and I think some of that rhythm helps with consistency.

527
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:56.680
But from an overall pattern standpoint it looks like he's using a really good

528
00:40:56.680 --> 00:41:00.740
spiral going from the legs through the core into the shoulders. One of the

529
00:41:00.740 --> 00:41:03.000
classic one piece takeaways.

530
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:09.130
Okay so in summary the key movements for the takeaway that you want to monitor

531
00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:14.980
are the foot in the foot initiation slash hip rotation so what's the first

532
00:41:14.980 --> 00:41:18.000
trigger what's the lower body doing.

533
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:24.450
Then look at the core connection. So how is the core transferring that up to

534
00:41:24.450 --> 00:41:30.740
the arms is it happening independent like is there no arm connection or is it

535
00:41:30.740 --> 00:41:35.000
going into more side bend rotation extension.

536
00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:41.920
All those pieces side tilt is there enough left bend that's going to be an

537
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:49.370
indicator of using hopefully some abs. And also that's going to help create or

538
00:41:49.370 --> 00:41:57.000
be a sign that we're moving the pelvis on a little bit of a tilt because we're

539
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.000
set up at an angle instead of turning

540
00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:03.570
rotationally you can use the glutes and still get out of position with that if

541
00:42:03.570 --> 00:42:07.730
you don't have enough of that side tilt arm connection again through the serr

542
00:42:07.730 --> 00:42:08.000
atus.

543
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:12.750
I'm not a huge fan of kind of squeezing the shoulder blades back. I'm more a

544
00:42:12.750 --> 00:42:18.620
fan of kind of setting those shoulder blades in more kind of down in in which

545
00:42:18.620 --> 00:42:22.000
is more of a serratus interior activation.

546
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:26.360
And then a little bit of shoulder rotation in this first stage there's very

547
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:31.270
little wrist movement. There can be a little bit of extension. There can be a

548
00:42:31.270 --> 00:42:38.660
little bit of lead arm pronation but most of it's happening from below the

549
00:42:38.660 --> 00:42:40.000
elbows.

550
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:44.690
Or you know, more in the core, more closer to the ground than the elbows the

551
00:42:44.690 --> 00:42:50.000
the forearms and the hands aren't doing quite as much in the takeaway movement.

552
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.230
What we'll do in the next presentation is we'll look at more setting the club

553
00:42:54.230 --> 00:42:58.000
which will definitely have some arm and some hand movements.

554
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.540
So hopefully this gives you some perspective. I want you to look at a bunch of

555
00:43:01.540 --> 00:43:05.630
your students and just kind of look through what's happening at the legs the

556
00:43:05.630 --> 00:43:09.000
core and start to see if you can put some of these pieces together

557
00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.000
to why and how your golfers are moving in the takeaway.

558
00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.100
Alright, hope you enjoyed it. Look forward to seeing you in the next

559
00:43:17.100 --> 00:43:21.380
presentation where we tackle setting the club or finishing the rest of the back

560
00:43:21.380 --> 00:43:22.000
swing.