Integrating Speed Training

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The goal is to cover how we see speed, both on 3D and then somewhat visually.

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As a little bonus topic, we're going to cover some wrist anatomy.

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I did a presentation for the World Golf Fitness Summit where I went into what

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the arms do

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during the downswing.

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As a bonus, I'm going to record a little updated version, so a little bit more

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in depth on

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a couple different topics, but I'm going to record a version of that for the

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coaches in

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the very near future.

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And then after we go through that, we're going to go over the questions and the

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swing discussions.

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So I'm not quite sure how long this is going to take, but I'm willing to stay

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on as long

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as we have questions to answer.

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Okay, so as far as seeing speed from 3D, the most common way to look at it is

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if you're

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looking at the downswing, so we've got a kinematic sequence graph, you look for

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how long and

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how much one part of the body is moving faster than the more proximal part of

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the body.

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So for example, if I have my hips or the red line on top of the green line,

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that means

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my hips are moving faster than my torso.

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That means I'm stretching and creating some power that way.

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The filtium wrote an article that you can find on his website about stretching,

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writing,

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or fanning, or basically the three different muscle activations you've got

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concentric when

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it is the muscle is shortening or activating.

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I'm getting a call from Tech Support, hello?

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Okay, was it not showing when, could you hear me?

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Okay, I will take away, I will go back and not do full swing, thanks.

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Alright, so it sounds like I can't use the presenter view when using it, so we

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're going

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to go through it this way, right here.

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Okay, sorry about that, I guess this is why we're doing these beta tests.

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Okay, for the topics of the webinar, we're going to cover 3D and the Mach 3

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system, we're

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going to get into some little bit more wrist anatomy in depth, and then we're

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going to

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cover the coaches swing, or the swing submissions as well as the coaches

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questions.

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So generally when we're looking at creating power, we're looking at the kinem

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atic sequence

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and we're looking at the transition, primarily the first half of the downswing.

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So basically when the lines go from negative to positive, and in what order.

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So Phil Cheetham wrote an article that you can read on his website, but simply

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if the

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segment closer to the ground is moving faster than the segment closer to the

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club, you're

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loading or you're stretching that segment.

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So in this case, we're looking at the red line being the pelvis and the green

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line being

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the torso, and what we're seeing is the red line cross zero first, followed by

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the green

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line, and you'll see all this space right here where the red line is over the

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green line.

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They're creating a little bit of a stretch, and that one Dr. Rose has talked

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about, you

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could take the space or the volume between those two curves and create some

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type of measurement

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for the amount of power gained within one segment.

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So in this right here, both segments are moving at about the same speed.

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And then this over here, the segment is moving slower.

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So that would look, we're testing.

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So if we use, we'll use the pelvis because that's what that was essentially

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demonstrating.

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So basically the first graph where the lower body is increasing stretch, you

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the lower body move away from the upper body.

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So that would look kind of more like that.

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The second one, you would see these two segments move together.

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And then the third one, you would see the upper body kind of leaving behind the

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body.

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So one of the interesting things, that's one way to look at power comparing

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golfer, but it's also a good way to look at power when you're comparing

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different swings.

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So for example, I've got the same tour golfer, very elite golfer, and I've got

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it zoomed

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in on his transition sequence.

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So you can see the red is above the green for a long period of time.

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The green is above the blue for a long period of time.

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The blue has a little bit of writing through here, and then the blue is well

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above the

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brown for a long period of time.

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So the red above the green, that's his core load.

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The green above the blue shows that there's not a whole lot of shoulder load,

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but there's

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a tiny bit.

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And then the blue above the brown shows that there's a fair amount of wrist

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load, or it

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could be elbow, but in this case it's wrist.

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This is the same golfer if you look at his pitch sequence.

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So this is more of a 30 yard shot.

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So on a 30 yard shot, you can see that he's got the red above the green.

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So his hips are leading, he's got a little bit of a hip stretch.

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But then if we kind of jump over here, the club is moving faster than the arm,

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the arm

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is moving faster than the torso, the torso is moving faster than the hips.

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That's the classic fanning and creates more of a kind of coasting type look, or

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everything

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looking like it's moving in rhythm.

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Where in the full swing version, you'll see a lot more of kind of a dynamic

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loading sequence.

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And not everyone has access to 3D, so here's a version of how you can see it in

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2D.

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So in 2D, if you're looking for the loading, you want to look for the lower

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body leading

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first.

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I use a reference of basically the thighs getting parallel to the ground.

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So you'll see this is Cameron Champ, obviously a long hitter, gets his thighs

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back parallel

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to the target line, roughly when the lead arm is parallel to the ground.

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Then from there, you'll see the chest getting roughly parallel to the target

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line.

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About the time the shaft is parallel to the ground.

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He's actually earlier than that, which is pretty impressive.

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And then lastly, you'll see the arms and hands kind of going through two

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different versions.

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Collecting some clips so I can do an analysis on him because obviously

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everybody loves to

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talk about his swing right now.

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He had a great win and very, very impressive what he's able to do off the tee.

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So here you can see from the face on view, you basically just have to look for,

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at this block here moving before his chest and then his chest essentially

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moving before

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his arms.

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You notice how during that zone right through there, there's not much shoulder

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and arm action.

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Most of that is happening from the body and then down through there, you'll see

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more of

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the arm action.

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So that's the closest way you can look at it from 2D, either looking at the

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line and looking at the parallel, the relationships compared to the target line

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, or from the face

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on view and just kind of scrubbing back and forth.

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So then, that's kind of the way to look at the power in the golf swing.

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This brings me to my trip down to San Antonio and checking out Mike Room Tausky

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's program.

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So I first saw some of the stuff Mike was posting with messing around with

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ropes and

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I'll show some videos that I just thought, "Hey, you know, Dr. Kwan was talking

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rope swinging a few years ago as a good way to feel kind of the load and being

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able to

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feel more of the force coming from the body instead of from the hands or from

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the couple."

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This seems like just a bigger extension on that.

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While I got some good benefit from using the small ropes, I've seen a lot more

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even in

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the first summer, few, I'd say, month and a half that I've been really messing

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with looking at Mike's stuff.

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So he uses in his, I should not say whips, it should, so at his club or at his

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facility,

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he uses ropes, chains and hoses, not whips, so that'll be corrected for the

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presentation.

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I felt the chains and the ropes were the best.

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The hoses have a really interesting feel to them, but I'm probably not going to

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a whole lot of the hose stuff in my particular facility.

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I'm definitely going to be implementing a bunch of the rope stuff, and I'm

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do my best to get some of the chains because I will show you quickly the chain

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stuff was

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really, really neat.

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And that was what I would say is the main benefit to going down.

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You'll get to, if you go and have a chance to meet with him, he's got some

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pretty good

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protocols on how thick of a rope to use, how the width of or the length of the

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PVC, the

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width of the PVC.

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So he's got all these different kind of stations set up that you can try out,

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and it was neat

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to go there in his group because the ones that were really beneficial for me

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necessarily the ones that were really beneficial for some of the other guys and

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vice versa.

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But one of the stations that everybody seemed to love was the chain.

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Okay, so as far as the speed goes, he's got 10 kind of rules that he goes

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through as

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far as when you're training speed, you should be primarily focused on speed or

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100% focused

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on speed.

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To do that, you need to do short sets.

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He keeps his sets less than eight seconds.

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So it's short fast intense rest, but he wants to maintain that throughout.

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You don't do speed training to basically fatigue yourself.

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You shouldn't walk out the door feeling beat up.

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You should walk out the door feeling like you could swing your fastest.

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So part of that, he does short sets with a lot of rest in order to prevent

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too much fatigue.

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He doesn't have a whole kind of workout circuit.

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A lot of the stuff is more geared around, there's a good warm up and then just

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of total body swinging.

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Your goal for creating speed, which a few of the questions that we'll get to

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a bit are related to, is to make every movement a total body movement.

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He believes that you should measure club at speed each session and then, which

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so he had

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charts or kind of, he would list how much each of his students had gained in

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speed.

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And he'd say that you'll typically see some peaks and valleys to that.

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Not everyone is going to increase speed at the same rate.

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Some people are going to have faster improvements and then kind of plateau and

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then gain again.

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Some people are going to have more gradual improvements.

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Everybody's a little bit different there, but if you're measuring it, people

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can start

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to connect, did this work for me or was this a bad one?

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And then the last piece, again, I kind of threw out the hoses, but the ropes

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and the

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chains force you to kind of react to the resistance, because the resistance is

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constantly changing,

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which is very different than when you're lifting a weight or barbell, dumbbell,

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even kettlebells

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have a little bit less of that.

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Okay, so now I've got a bunch of videos and pictures from his facility.

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So some of you may recognize this pro, but this little station here, this was

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the coolest thing out there, which was this little chain that gradually got

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thicker.

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And the goal was a few warm up swings and then there's that eight seconds as

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fast as

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you can, and you'll see he gets out of it pretty quickly, because you can't go

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hard for very long.

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But the chain has just kind of a regular grip and then it gets gradually

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thicker.

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I'm not sure how far it was every 10 feet, every 15 feet, but they're going to

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be making

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a kind of commercial product available to this and I can't wait to get my hands

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on one

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of these.

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As you can see through there, it's all one thickness and then right about there

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it switches.

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And there were about three or four different lengths all the way to the end.

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If you're using, because what'll happen, if it's all the same, if it's all

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light chain,

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as you swing it'll work in towards you, so you either have to have more weight

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at the

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end, which this kind of does, or you could put it down a hill so that it can't

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climb up

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at you.

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Both of those were pretty useful.

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The thing that was interesting about this, I almost can't describe the feeling

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in transition.

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It felt very light in transition and then seemed to get heavier as you got

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closer to impact.

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then you really

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have to work hard, it does force you to apply the speed with the arms later,

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which there's

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a few questions about, so we will absolutely cover.

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Okay, and now the rest of the videos here from his place will be me messing

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around with

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them.

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So he has a couple of different length pieces of PVC.

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So this one is just an 18-inch kind of flexible PVC pipe.

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I'll show you a version I found at Home Depot, but the good one you can get at

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Amazon.

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And this is doing these two different clips, or me, doing some figure eight

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circles back

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and forth up and down.

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So basically doing some, let's say wrist forearm shoulder training.

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So precision of forearm, both right-handed, both left-handed.

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You could do them after you've done them right-handed, left-handed.

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I think you could, if you were putting it in a class, you could do both hands

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as well.

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But you get a pretty good, I don't want to say cardio workout, but you do get a

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good beating doing this stuff.

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I wouldn't put this in kind of the speed category.

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of the jet stick.

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This I think of as almost more coordination training.

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And it's really cool.

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There are some things that are hard to communicate, but easy to feel when you

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start using a rope.

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This next one was a little bit longer cord, which was kind of cool.

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But the thing I really liked, which I'll show you what I'm messing around with

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now, is I'm

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swinging an axe handle there, and I'm actually doing trail hand open.

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So because the axe handle has a flat face to it, you can really feel the right

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hand pushing

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against the club.

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So I'm planning to mess around with the axe handle and just doing some club

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face awareness

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things.

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Mike liked to separate skill and club face from the speed generation.

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So everything he did in there was all about speed.

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But I've found that if in my personal experience, I think you can get better

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transfer or carry

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over if you train club face as well as sequencing.

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So I think this is one of the best tools for training that because it has the

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broad flatness

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that allows you to feel a club face rather than just the rope like this PVC.

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So now what you got here is me swinging.

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This one has an 18 inch PVC and then 18 inch of a PVC connector, so it's called

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a flexible

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PVC connection.

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And those two linked together create a really neat feel because it's very

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different than

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when you're just swinging a PVC.

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I'll show you one in slow motion where you can really feel some of that shall

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owing and

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the club loading.

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So here's one in slow motion and you can see what's getting trained at the tip

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end.

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So you can see some really cool exaggerations on building and maintaining lag.

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So when I mess around with this, I'm going to try to get some good video of

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students

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doing it as well.

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Because the longer the stick and the more flexible the stick, the easier it is

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to get

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that loading feel.

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And so this is called the shallow stick.

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I think it's got a really good combination of longer and flexible tip to allow

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you to

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feel that shallow movement.

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Let's see, I think this is just, yeah, so John Sinclair was asking me to do

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something

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specific, kind of exaggerating almost, really exaggerating that shallow move.

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Like I said, that's going to be one of my favorite ones to mess around with.

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Now it's hard.

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What you'll see is I tried to go right back into the next rep and the rope got

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all out

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of position.

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It really forces you to wait for it.

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So if you have any of your students who have a tendency to really pull hard in

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transition,

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then this can be a very valuable tool.

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I'm going to mention this in the summary piece, but one of the things that

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perhaps I haven't

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stressed as much as I should on the site is that if you have a steepening in

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transition,

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it's almost always connected to how you're powering the swing.

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If you are powering the swing more from the hips and core, more rotary, the

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club will

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shallow.

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If you're powering it more from the arms and shoulders, the club will steepen.

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So almost 100% of the time when someone has a steepening problem in transition,

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they're

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going to have to work on getting some amount of shallow.

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Okay, so now I made a couple of these before I went out to see them, because I

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just wanted

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to mess around with some of my students and see what kind of reactions I was

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getting.

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And you'll see one of the common themes is a lot more of trying to use the body

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, trying

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to use the upper body to essentially throw the whip, right?

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And so he's essentially getting a little bit more of a pushing action.

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I'll show you one more over here.

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So this you can see not quite as fluid as far as sequencing the arms.

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And that's very much what happens with these two golfers in their actual golf

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swing.

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So this is doing some two-way speed with the jet stick, one of Mike's few

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programs.

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And I've actually referred a few of these out and sold a bunch, and so far

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everybody

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likes it.

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I like the feeling of the jet stick a lot more than something like the orange

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whip.

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And there's two main things that Mike uses for speed that makes sense to me

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anyway.

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One is over here on the left where your goal is to get the speed kind of

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throwing it out

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towards the target.

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And then the other one is, and I've used the rope and chain for both of these,

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but the

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other one is essentially trying to get the same amount of speed back and forth.

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When you're trying to get the same amount of speed back and forth, your body

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pivot has

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to stay very tight and you have to stay kind of grounded.

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If you start throwing your body too much in one direction, kind of sway slide

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or thrust,

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you won't be able to create the speed going back in the same direction.

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So these tools from a coordination standpoint, I think, are very good at

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getting a golfer

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to feel improved sequencing without having to necessarily talk too much about

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sequencing.

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They just kind of figure some of the stuff out when they're swinging a rope

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compared

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to when they're swinging a golf club.

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Now the challenge, they're not controlling a clubface and they're not

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controlling a path,

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but they're working on sequencing.

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Got another example here.

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So this is one of the things that one of the other instructors and myself kind

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of liked

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is imagine if I, and I put this in because this was before I went, it's not

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perfect,

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but I've got a longer PVC.

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Imagine if I had jin choking up closer to the handle there, then I could almost

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use it like

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an alignment stick sticking out the butt end and learning to get that snap or

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pop of the

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club more from the whip of the body and less from the hands.

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You would not be able to, basically you would hit yourself on the side if you

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were getting

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all of the speed from the hands.

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So I'm trying to play around with different ways that I can use this for

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training the

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release and the feelings of the release.

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Now my first version of the flexible tool was a cardboard tube because I

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thought that

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would have enough, just cardboard tubes last about a week before someone squee

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zes as so

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tight they fall apart.

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So I don't necessarily recommend that.

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But this is a golfer essentially trying to get it more with the body, but

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really doing

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it more with the upper.

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I'm going to walk you through a few little progressions, you'll see that it's

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happening

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more from that right arm, essentially what he's doing with that right arm is

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you can

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see it kind of throwing behind and then slowing down as it goes through.

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I showed him what I wanted it to look like.

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So I wanted it to have more kind of acceleration through there and less

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acceleration kind of

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through there.

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One of the reasons that Mike liked that seems to resonate with some golfers is

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you don't

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want to speed up the hands with your arms while the club is traveling downward.

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You want to speed up the hands later in the swing when it's going more towards

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the target.

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So then this is him again playing around and feeling more of that late

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acceleration.

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So now you can see just in a span of about 10 minutes, we found a tool that he

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can use

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to get good sequence training, but now we're going to have to adapt the way he

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controls

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the path and the way he controls the club face to match a better sequencing.

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But for this golfer whose main goal is distance, this will be an important

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piece of the puzzle.

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And then this one I wanted to show you make sure that you give them enough rope

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or else

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essentially they're going to get to the end of the rope too soon.

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You want there to be plenty of slack and I'll demonstrate that with the little

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home version

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I've got set up here.

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I also have been messing around with doing more of a split grip like I was

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doing with

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the axe so that it forces them to use their core even a little bit more.

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Okay, so the main tool, if you were just going to mess around with this, I just

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added these

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two pictures so that you can kind of see Docline has a loop at one end, which

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makes it really

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easy for attaching this type of stuff and it's a little bit more weather

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resistant.

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And then the purpose of this picture is you see those buckets.

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That's what he uses for kind of keeping clutter out of the way.

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So you basically coil them in like a snake and then you know where you've got

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each length

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tool it should help with kind of organization and cleanup because my teaching

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facility already

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gets a little bit messy so that was one of my key takeaways.

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Alright, so if we're breaking it down, you basically need two different handle

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length.

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One, let's say three to four feet, I'd air more on like the forefoot,

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especially if you're

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able to get the flexible connector, it works great.

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And then a short one, say a foot to 18 inches for doing more of the wrist arm

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training.

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So the longer the handle, the more that it's about the body and the legs, and

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then the

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short ones, the more that it's about the arms.

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I didn't get any videos of his other tool, which is he basically has a long

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stick, I'll

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show you here in two seconds.

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So he has a long stick that he basically puts in the middle of your body and it

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's really

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good for getting just your hips to activate.

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The two main tools that he uses are the rope and the chain.

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I'm airing more towards the rope for safety and simplicity, but once I can get

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a hand on

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that graduated chain, I'll let you know how well I like that.

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And then as far as motions, the two-way speed going back and forth is great for

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kind of

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working on balance, working on sequencing while maintaining a more centered

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pivot, and

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then speed out in front is good at kind of training that kinematic sequence and

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the getting

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the energy from the ground early in the hands late.

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So let me swing that back to here.

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Okay, so the one piece of equipment that I was describing, so here's the axe

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handle.

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So you can see it's got a flat, flat face, and just for feeling essentially

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where that

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would be in space, this thing's really cool.

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What he had was a longer PVC pipe, so about six feet, so imagine a couple feet

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extending

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in each direction with ropes hanging out the sides.

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And then you hold it in close and you'd essentially just try to create whips

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going back and forth

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by turning from your lowered body.

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A couple golfers who were more upper body dominant really got a change in their

509
00:29:41.150 --> 00:29:41.600
lower

510
00:29:41.600 --> 00:29:43.200
body load pattern.

511
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:47.970
For me personally, it was a little bit tougher because this position kind of

512
00:29:47.970 --> 00:29:48.760
exaggerates

513
00:29:48.760 --> 00:29:55.260
some of my next stuff, and I already have a lot more lower body power in my

514
00:29:55.260 --> 00:29:56.240
swing.

515
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:03.420
So the rope things, here's a, you can get this one at Home Depot, it's just a

516
00:30:03.420 --> 00:30:04.480
flexible

517
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:05.480
PVC pipe.

518
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:10.710
So you see that it's got, it's basically for connecting a couple of pieces, but

519
00:30:10.710 --> 00:30:11.280
it has

520
00:30:11.280 --> 00:30:13.760
a little bit more of the give to it.

521
00:30:13.760 --> 00:30:19.900
The one that there's something called a flex PVC connect, those were kind of

522
00:30:19.900 --> 00:30:21.060
the keywords

523
00:30:21.060 --> 00:30:25.320
load for, I found it on Amazon, but it's even more and more flexible.

524
00:30:25.320 --> 00:30:28.230
So I'm going to play around with this one because they didn't have the one that

525
00:30:28.230 --> 00:30:28.640
I really

526
00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:30.720
wanted yesterday.

527
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:37.930
And then this is just that, that docking rope and the key thing to the key

528
00:30:37.930 --> 00:30:38.880
piece of

529
00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.920
the docking rope is at one end, it already has a loop.

530
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:49.820
So what you can either do is if you have like I have basically an old thing

531
00:30:49.820 --> 00:30:50.760
that I can,

532
00:30:50.760 --> 00:30:54.600
you know, that's heavy enough that it won't get pulled and I can just attach a

533
00:30:54.600 --> 00:30:55.000
clip to

534
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:56.000
it.

535
00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:59.960
So that way I can quickly and easily take it in and out.

536
00:30:59.960 --> 00:31:06.790
Or you can, if you have like a chair or one of those, what some people talk

537
00:31:06.790 --> 00:31:07.520
about was

538
00:31:07.520 --> 00:31:12.690
either using stakes or the, the poles that you put, you know, like dog leashes

539
00:31:12.690 --> 00:31:13.400
attached

540
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.840
to where you screw it into the ground.

541
00:31:15.840 --> 00:31:19.400
Those would both work really well with this thing.

542
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:24.590
So if you're messing around with the rope, you basically want to make sure that

543
00:31:24.590 --> 00:31:25.360
you've

544
00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:29.600
got enough slack so that you're not going to hit it and you basically, you don

545
00:31:29.600 --> 00:31:30.040
't want

546
00:31:30.040 --> 00:31:33.400
to do it directly in line with where this is attached.

547
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:34.960
So right now it's attached there.

548
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:38.960
If I did it directly in line will happen is when it gets to the end, it will

549
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:39.840
come snapping

550
00:31:39.840 --> 00:31:40.840
back at me.

551
00:31:40.840 --> 00:31:46.180
So at minimum, you want like a 30 degree angle or so, but facing the attachment

552
00:31:46.180 --> 00:31:47.080
is probably

553
00:31:47.080 --> 00:31:52.210
a little bit safer and then getting that snap late through the ball, instead of

554
00:31:52.210 --> 00:31:52.880
getting

555
00:31:52.880 --> 00:32:01.770
that snap down at the ball, I'd say you don't want to, you don't want to get

556
00:32:01.770 --> 00:32:03.080
pulled by the

557
00:32:03.080 --> 00:32:04.440
rope at the end.

558
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:10.290
So you want to make sure that you've got at least I'd say 35, 25, 35 feet at

559
00:32:10.290 --> 00:32:11.480
the minimum,

560
00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:13.680
but we were using mostly 50 foot rope.

561
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:18.450
So depending on how much space you have, I'll let you know if the one I was

562
00:32:18.450 --> 00:32:19.040
able to get

563
00:32:19.040 --> 00:32:25.420
last night is the 25 foot rope, I'll let you know how that works as far as

564
00:32:25.420 --> 00:32:26.360
space.

565
00:32:26.360 --> 00:32:32.340
I think it should be good when I could, when we were inside on like a gym floor

566
00:32:32.340 --> 00:32:33.200
, I could

567
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:36.790
see how if you only had 25 feet, it wouldn't be enough because it has a lot of

568
00:32:36.790 --> 00:32:37.240
carry, but

569
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.010
I think out in my facility where I'm all be doing this mostly on grass, I think

570
00:32:42.010 --> 00:32:42.480
the added

571
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:48.230
friction from the grass will make it so that the 25 foot is a little bit better

572
00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:48.760
or works

573
00:32:48.760 --> 00:32:50.600
out fine.

574
00:32:50.600 --> 00:33:00.330
Okay, so let me get back to the PowerPoint, we're going to get into some

575
00:33:00.330 --> 00:33:02.880
questions now.

576
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:09.110
So before we get into just discussion questions, I figured the more fun stuff

577
00:33:09.110 --> 00:33:11.000
is to look at

578
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:12.600
the swing.

579
00:33:12.600 --> 00:33:18.490
So one of our coaches sent in, new student of a month ago, he's a nine handicap

580
00:33:18.490 --> 00:33:18.880
.

581
00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:22.900
When we first started, he was hitting everything on the heel and shanking a lot

582
00:33:22.900 --> 00:33:23.740
of shots, tends

583
00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:27.170
to move towards his toes during the swing, I've been working on the butt

584
00:33:27.170 --> 00:33:27.920
fingerprint

585
00:33:27.920 --> 00:33:32.270
back 45 and some nine to three drills with him, I've also done some shank gate

586
00:33:32.270 --> 00:33:33.120
type drills

587
00:33:33.120 --> 00:33:37.480
and have used the doctor's shoals for awareness, any other suggestions.

588
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:48.040
So I'll bring it up in analyzer, actually this works pretty well.

589
00:33:48.040 --> 00:33:58.130
So there's a couple little pieces going on, so my first goal, if we're trying

590
00:33:58.130 --> 00:33:59.640
to improve

591
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:04.480
his brain's ability to sense where the heel and the toe is in space, all right?

592
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:09.250
So I've got to, I've got to first see what he's recognizing or what he's

593
00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:10.240
registering.

594
00:34:10.240 --> 00:34:14.580
So first question is almost always going to be, okay, where on the club are you

595
00:34:14.580 --> 00:34:15.240
hitting?

596
00:34:15.240 --> 00:34:20.230
If he says it's on the heel versus the toe, then we're at least in the right

597
00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:21.320
ballpark.

598
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.550
But he may think he's hitting it way on the toe, he may have no clue, that's

599
00:34:24.550 --> 00:34:25.120
the first

600
00:34:25.120 --> 00:34:28.760
step is we have to understand where it is on the club.

601
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:34.580
And what I would probably do is I would, actually I'll bring this up in the

602
00:34:34.580 --> 00:34:35.680
analyzer to make

603
00:34:35.680 --> 00:34:41.440
it easier for me to draw lines.

604
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:49.340
So what I would probably do, hopefully you can see this, okay, this is the next

605
00:34:49.340 --> 00:34:50.120
one over

606
00:34:50.120 --> 00:34:51.520
here.

607
00:34:51.520 --> 00:34:58.350
So what I would do is I would get my camera out and I would do a video where I

608
00:34:58.350 --> 00:34:59.320
basically

609
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.720
had the camera zoomed in there.

610
00:35:01.720 --> 00:35:08.920
So I'd be standing relatively close right on the target line, not like good

611
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:10.240
camera, you

612
00:35:10.240 --> 00:35:13.120
know, like where you put the camera for analyzing the swing.

613
00:35:13.120 --> 00:35:16.360
So not in line with the hands, right in line with the target line.

614
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:21.420
And then what I would do is I would zoom in and slow it down here and he would

615
00:35:21.420 --> 00:35:21.920
see this

616
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:27.710
one wasn't bad, but it is potentially flirting with maybe a little bit extra

617
00:35:27.710 --> 00:35:28.400
heel.

618
00:35:28.400 --> 00:35:34.180
And this is him probably feeling like it was way out, you know, like he was

619
00:35:34.180 --> 00:35:34.860
falling backward

620
00:35:34.860 --> 00:35:39.640
or, or trying to hit it more on the toe.

621
00:35:39.640 --> 00:35:44.400
Then I would do, once he, we understood that it was hitting it on the heel.

622
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.730
The next thing is I would show him that there are two ways to hit it on the

623
00:35:48.730 --> 00:35:49.360
heel.

624
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:53.120
One is if the club face is coming in wide open.

625
00:35:53.120 --> 00:36:04.560
And two is if the club is just moving way out towards the target.

626
00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:13.260
So basically I would have golf ball here and I would show him, all right, there

627
00:36:13.260 --> 00:36:13.760
's two ways

628
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:15.040
to bring the hosel out.

629
00:36:15.040 --> 00:36:20.110
One would be the club face coming in wide open like this, or two is I set up

630
00:36:20.110 --> 00:36:20.760
here and

631
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.440
just the club is moving that way.

632
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:28.120
And I would ask him which one of those two does he think is going on?

633
00:36:28.120 --> 00:36:32.890
Because again, a big piece of this is figuring out what piece of information he

634
00:36:32.890 --> 00:36:33.520
's paying

635
00:36:33.520 --> 00:36:38.840
attention to, not just what's happening and what's the best way to fix it.

636
00:36:38.840 --> 00:36:44.650
So hopefully he would say the club is moving out, in which case I would go to

637
00:36:44.650 --> 00:36:45.480
some type

638
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:48.320
of awareness thing.

639
00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:54.320
So like the shank gate, almost always my first go to is the, put the three T's.

640
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:57.910
So I would put two T's and then one in the middle and I'd have them set up to

641
00:36:57.910 --> 00:36:58.600
the middle

642
00:36:58.600 --> 00:37:02.160
T, just like the shank gate.

643
00:37:02.160 --> 00:37:07.040
So inside T on an angle like this, outside T vertical, middle T right here and

644
00:37:07.040 --> 00:37:07.440
I'd say

645
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:11.380
try and hit the middle T and if he hit the outside T, because I'd have a pretty

646
00:37:11.380 --> 00:37:11.800
tight

647
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:15.940
window there, he would start to recognize, wow, the club is moving further away

648
00:37:15.940 --> 00:37:16.200
from

649
00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:17.200
me.

650
00:37:17.200 --> 00:37:21.020
So then the next step is trying to get him to hit the inside T and then I would

651
00:37:21.020 --> 00:37:21.600
replace

652
00:37:21.600 --> 00:37:26.150
the middle T with a golf ball and I'd say, can you hit the golf ball with the

653
00:37:26.150 --> 00:37:26.560
toe and

654
00:37:26.560 --> 00:37:30.160
the inside T with the heel?

655
00:37:30.160 --> 00:37:33.510
If he's able to figure all that out, then it's basically questioning and

656
00:37:33.510 --> 00:37:34.120
probing and

657
00:37:34.120 --> 00:37:37.720
helping him figure out, well, how are you doing that, are you controlling it

658
00:37:37.720 --> 00:37:38.240
more by

659
00:37:38.240 --> 00:37:41.800
where your body is, more by where your arms are, more by your weight

660
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:42.840
distribution, more

661
00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:47.720
by your tempo, how are you doing it?

662
00:37:47.720 --> 00:37:52.280
Once we've got the skill figured out, we're working on the heel toe awareness.

663
00:37:52.280 --> 00:37:56.420
So once we have that skill figured out, then I talked to him about technique

664
00:37:56.420 --> 00:37:57.160
and I'd help

665
00:37:57.160 --> 00:38:02.940
him understand that we're layering in technique to improve the skill of where

666
00:38:02.940 --> 00:38:03.560
the club is

667
00:38:03.560 --> 00:38:05.440
striking the ground.

668
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:11.320
So the next piece I would do is I would give him a little less feedback.

669
00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:16.380
So what I would do with the Dr. Scholespray is not just spray the face, but

670
00:38:16.380 --> 00:38:17.320
what I would

671
00:38:17.320 --> 00:38:23.100
do is I would draw, I'll do it a little bit away from the golf ball, but

672
00:38:23.100 --> 00:38:23.920
actually we'll

673
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.120
do it over the golf ball.

674
00:38:26.120 --> 00:38:33.450
So I would draw a box like this and then I would draw kind of lines divided

675
00:38:33.450 --> 00:38:34.760
this way.

676
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:53.540
So I would put the golf ball in the middle of the box and I would basically,

677
00:38:53.540 --> 00:38:53.680
let's see

678
00:38:53.680 --> 00:39:02.560
if this is, tech support is letting me know that, all right, is that better?

679
00:39:02.560 --> 00:39:03.560
Hopefully.

680
00:39:03.560 --> 00:39:09.920
All right, like I said, we're working through some of these bugs.

681
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:11.240
Appreciate you guys being patient.

682
00:39:11.240 --> 00:39:17.200
So this is what I was describing, I'll redraw it, okay.

683
00:39:17.200 --> 00:39:21.240
So I've got him, let's say I've got the golf ball here.

684
00:39:21.240 --> 00:39:28.250
I would draw a box like this on the ground with the Dr. Scholespray or spray

685
00:39:28.250 --> 00:39:29.080
paint and

686
00:39:29.080 --> 00:39:34.080
I would basically put a little dividing line just like this.

687
00:39:34.080 --> 00:39:41.090
So now I would have, actually I got disoriented, I would draw it this way,

688
00:39:41.090 --> 00:39:42.920
sorry about that.

689
00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:48.830
So I would draw it this way so we could do multiple balls and then I would put

690
00:39:48.830 --> 00:39:49.400
the dividing

691
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.760
lines kind of like this.

692
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:57.540
And so what I would do is I would have him set up with the golf ball in the

693
00:39:57.540 --> 00:39:58.520
middle, black's

694
00:39:58.520 --> 00:40:01.950
not going to work very well, I would set up with the golf ball in the middle of

695
00:40:01.950 --> 00:40:03.400
that box.

696
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:06.680
And then what we would do is we would recognize where did I make contact

697
00:40:06.680 --> 00:40:08.600
compared to the ground.

698
00:40:08.600 --> 00:40:13.640
If I make contact with the divot anywhere out towards this line, then I'm in

699
00:40:13.640 --> 00:40:14.360
jeopardy

700
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.080
of getting closer to a shank.

701
00:40:17.080 --> 00:40:23.330
So now the goal is to hit the inside line in the golf ball and the way we're

702
00:40:23.330 --> 00:40:24.040
going to

703
00:40:24.040 --> 00:40:28.810
do that, the two main technical things that we might go after would be the

704
00:40:28.810 --> 00:40:30.680
weight distribution.

705
00:40:30.680 --> 00:40:35.870
So you can see he gets a little bit more kind of extension towards the golf

706
00:40:35.870 --> 00:40:36.600
ball.

707
00:40:36.600 --> 00:40:40.660
And then the main one would probably be getting a feel of hitting the ball

708
00:40:40.660 --> 00:40:41.900
without that right

709
00:40:41.900 --> 00:40:46.800
arm extending out towards the golf ball quite so much.

710
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:52.080
So that right arm has a tendency to get straight.

711
00:40:52.080 --> 00:40:56.850
And depending on his level of technical awareness, and since you guys are

712
00:40:56.850 --> 00:40:58.460
coaches, I would probably

713
00:40:58.460 --> 00:41:03.000
start to look at the path of the hands.

714
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:08.560
So right about there is impact and you can see from there through there, that's

715
00:41:08.560 --> 00:41:10.080
not bad.

716
00:41:10.080 --> 00:41:14.920
If some golfers who shank the ball between those two frames, the handle would

717
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:15.620
be moving

718
00:41:15.620 --> 00:41:19.220
out towards the golf ball and that would be a problem.

719
00:41:19.220 --> 00:41:23.990
For him, if we were to look from the face-on view, I imagine this right arm

720
00:41:23.990 --> 00:41:25.080
would be more

721
00:41:25.080 --> 00:41:27.680
extended behind his body.

722
00:41:27.680 --> 00:41:31.280
But the two main things I'm going after are the body shifting that way and the

723
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:31.880
right arm

724
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:34.440
extending too soon.

725
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:40.940
And I would use that visual feedback until he could consistently prove that he

726
00:41:40.940 --> 00:41:41.480
could

727
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:44.800
hit the inside part of the box.

728
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:48.500
Probably working on where the club is striking the ground.

729
00:41:48.500 --> 00:41:51.700
Okay, let me just jump back.

730
00:41:51.700 --> 00:41:53.990
I'm probably just going to stick on that, because we're going to look at the

731
00:41:53.990 --> 00:41:54.700
golfer here

732
00:41:54.700 --> 00:41:56.500
on the left.

733
00:41:56.500 --> 00:42:02.280
But let me just read, Nick is the one who sent this in, he said, "I'm seeing

734
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:02.740
this sort

735
00:42:02.740 --> 00:42:05.740
of pattern being promoted as the way to rotate."

736
00:42:05.740 --> 00:42:09.320
Here we see the instructor following the science by keeping the center mass of

737
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:10.140
the club behind

738
00:42:10.140 --> 00:42:11.340
the hands.

739
00:42:11.340 --> 00:42:15.340
And I see what I see is a golfer dropping their arms behind their body, getting

740
00:42:15.340 --> 00:42:16.200
into a seriously

741
00:42:16.200 --> 00:42:17.200
stuck position.

742
00:42:17.200 --> 00:42:19.100
There's no wipe going on.

743
00:42:19.100 --> 00:42:23.360
And I also see an underhanded swing with the right arm nearly supinating all

744
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:23.900
the way

745
00:42:23.900 --> 00:42:24.900
to impact.

746
00:42:24.900 --> 00:42:29.040
This pattern looks like it could be a shank, bring a shank into play, and I

747
00:42:29.040 --> 00:42:29.940
imagine it's

748
00:42:29.940 --> 00:42:32.540
a power rubber as well.

749
00:42:32.540 --> 00:42:33.540
Okay.

750
00:42:33.540 --> 00:42:44.030
So this is kind of the trendy exaggerated shift on top, all rotation, tons of

751
00:42:44.030 --> 00:42:45.420
ulmer.

752
00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:51.830
And I do agree the way that this is getting demonstrated creates a couple

753
00:42:51.830 --> 00:42:54.060
potential problems.

754
00:42:54.060 --> 00:43:02.760
It's very hard to get the arms that far behind your body and not run the risk

755
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:04.140
of the hand

756
00:43:04.140 --> 00:43:09.270
path going way out unless you have a tremendous amount of rotation and possibly

757
00:43:09.270 --> 00:43:10.300
the upper body

758
00:43:10.300 --> 00:43:12.740
ahead of the lower body.

759
00:43:12.740 --> 00:43:17.900
So the place where I'd be kind of concerned would be right about here.

760
00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:24.350
If we were to see this from the face on view, this appearance to me looks like

761
00:43:24.350 --> 00:43:25.300
the upper

762
00:43:25.300 --> 00:43:30.380
body would be leaning more towards the target than the lower body.

763
00:43:30.380 --> 00:43:35.260
So the upper body would be essentially passed or his chest would be passed as

764
00:43:35.260 --> 00:43:36.460
pelvis linearly

765
00:43:36.460 --> 00:43:39.420
towards the target.

766
00:43:39.420 --> 00:43:48.280
It's gonna be really difficult not to be steep or outside from there unless you

767
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:49.220
do essentially

768
00:43:49.220 --> 00:43:55.000
what this golfer is doing with the arms, but the problem is the body has the

769
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:55.820
greatest influence

770
00:43:55.820 --> 00:43:58.100
on your overall path tendency.

771
00:43:58.100 --> 00:44:01.230
While you can change stuff with the arms, the overall path tendency is gonna

772
00:44:01.230 --> 00:44:01.500
come more

773
00:44:01.500 --> 00:44:02.640
from the body.

774
00:44:02.640 --> 00:44:12.250
If the body is that far forward then it's really hard not to get steep with

775
00:44:12.250 --> 00:44:14.140
your pivot.

776
00:44:14.140 --> 00:44:17.650
And when your upper body is that far forward and you're steep, the only ways

777
00:44:17.650 --> 00:44:18.360
you're gonna

778
00:44:18.360 --> 00:44:22.680
shallow it out are typically going to be scooping, flipping, or lifting the

779
00:44:22.680 --> 00:44:23.240
arms.

780
00:44:23.240 --> 00:44:29.410
So this golfer is doing a little bit more of flipping and lifting the arms

781
00:44:29.410 --> 00:44:30.440
which will

782
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.920
potentially throw the hosel more into view.

783
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:42.400
The other thing is this is very, very late as far as getting the push from the

784
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:44.240
lower body.

785
00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:50.020
So when we were talking about power production, right around here is where that

786
00:44:50.020 --> 00:44:50.700
left leg should

787
00:44:50.700 --> 00:44:54.440
start to be going more vertical.

788
00:44:54.440 --> 00:45:00.330
That left leg creating some of the vertical action to raise that left shoulder

789
00:45:00.330 --> 00:45:01.140
and start

790
00:45:01.140 --> 00:45:05.910
going into side bend and you'll see that he's still going very rotary and he

791
00:45:05.910 --> 00:45:06.580
doesn't really

792
00:45:06.580 --> 00:45:11.780
start pushing with the legs until all the way down towards impact.

793
00:45:11.780 --> 00:45:15.680
And that's because pushing with the legs would create more of a shallowness,

794
00:45:15.680 --> 00:45:16.520
but he's already

795
00:45:16.520 --> 00:45:20.980
so shallow with his arms that he couldn't have the extra shallowness.

796
00:45:20.980 --> 00:45:24.360
He has to air on getting more steep.

797
00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:31.200
So I would be very concerned with kind of the long term ability to strike long

798
00:45:31.200 --> 00:45:31.820
irons

799
00:45:31.820 --> 00:45:37.610
with this pattern, but he might be able to get away with it with the short ir

800
00:45:37.610 --> 00:45:38.400
ons as well

801
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:45.330
as off the tee where the low point balance of the path is not quite as critical

802
00:45:45.330 --> 00:45:45.700
.

803
00:45:45.700 --> 00:45:51.500
But yes, I don't see a ton of this coming in as an actual swing.

804
00:45:51.500 --> 00:46:00.120
This is impressive in how well they're able to actually demonstrate some of the

805
00:46:00.120 --> 00:46:00.900
trendy

806
00:46:00.900 --> 00:46:02.720
phrases that are going around.

807
00:46:02.720 --> 00:46:06.720
Like he's actually able to do some of the moves that I feel are exaggerated

808
00:46:06.720 --> 00:46:07.360
feels.

809
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.560
He's actually doing them in swing.

810
00:46:09.560 --> 00:46:16.400
Okay, let me jump back to the PowerPoint, but while so that you can kind of

811
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:17.680
think through

812
00:46:17.680 --> 00:46:25.630
what we're about to look at, this is the next wing and I'll read his

813
00:46:25.630 --> 00:46:27.760
description.

814
00:46:27.760 --> 00:46:38.040
Okay, so you're getting a little snapshot of what we're going to look at.

815
00:46:38.040 --> 00:46:45.980
Okay, so description of that one.

816
00:46:45.980 --> 00:46:48.020
This is his actual swing.

817
00:46:48.020 --> 00:46:51.780
One of our coaches wanted to discuss his own move, which is fine.

818
00:46:51.780 --> 00:46:56.120
This wing is what I feel like I have to do in order to be somewhat of a good

819
00:46:56.120 --> 00:46:56.940
position.

820
00:46:56.940 --> 00:47:00.280
For me, I have to think nine to three with some speed.

821
00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:05.170
If I just swing like I did prior to this program, then all sorts of issues

822
00:47:05.170 --> 00:47:05.980
emerge.

823
00:47:05.980 --> 00:47:09.040
One too much lateral shift on the downswing.

824
00:47:09.040 --> 00:47:16.130
Right arm releases club in plane, so more of a scoop, backing out of the shot

825
00:47:16.130 --> 00:47:17.600
and flipping.

826
00:47:17.600 --> 00:47:22.710
So if we're thinking through that too much lateral shift is a steepener, right

827
00:47:22.710 --> 00:47:23.880
arm releases,

828
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:27.200
backing out of the shot, flipping are all shallowers.

829
00:47:27.200 --> 00:47:33.720
So basically what he's describing is when he does a full swing from there, the

830
00:47:33.720 --> 00:47:34.320
power

831
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:39.480
source tends to be more of an upper body lunge.

832
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:45.000
Now this is where the rope stuff might come in handy because the upper body lun

833
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:46.200
ge is a

834
00:47:46.200 --> 00:47:51.980
steepening movement from the body compared to say a steepening movement from

835
00:47:51.980 --> 00:47:52.760
the arms.

836
00:47:52.760 --> 00:48:01.560
We can see from here that the upper body compared to the door there is drifting

837
00:48:01.560 --> 00:48:02.560
a bit more

838
00:48:02.560 --> 00:48:05.800
forward or away from the camera.

839
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:14.280
So that upper body drifting towards that target is helping pull the arms more

840
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:15.280
down.

841
00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:20.280
By pulling the arms more down, that's created two problems.

842
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:25.290
One it's created the steepening path and two sequencing wise, the muscles that

843
00:48:25.290 --> 00:48:25.880
pull your

844
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:30.560
arms down also stop your body from rotating.

845
00:48:30.560 --> 00:48:35.440
So it forces those arms to want to go a little bit earlier.

846
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.410
Now the reason that he feels the benefit from the nine to three is if you start

847
00:48:39.410 --> 00:48:40.080
the swing

848
00:48:40.080 --> 00:48:46.440
from here, you're typically not going to push the club down.

849
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:50.260
If you start the swing from here, you're typically going to pull in the

850
00:48:50.260 --> 00:48:51.480
direction the club is

851
00:48:51.480 --> 00:48:56.250
pointing so you're going to get better body contribution and more speed towards

852
00:48:56.250 --> 00:48:56.920
the target

853
00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:59.560
instead of towards the golf ball.

854
00:48:59.560 --> 00:49:06.280
So it looks like he does a decent job of controlling the club face.

855
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.480
It's possible that's something he'll have to mess around with, but it looks

856
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:10.000
like that's

857
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:17.900
more of a sequencing and low point control issue to work through rather than

858
00:49:17.900 --> 00:49:18.760
the club

859
00:49:18.760 --> 00:49:19.760
face.

860
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:23.950
A club face is always related, but it looks at least, I can't really see the

861
00:49:23.950 --> 00:49:24.840
club face,

862
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:31.080
but it appears that the wrists are in a little bit more of a on-top or rotated

863
00:49:31.080 --> 00:49:32.280
position.

864
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:38.380
So I think that the scoop can either be shallowing the club late or it can be

865
00:49:38.380 --> 00:49:39.440
closing the club

866
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:40.440
face late.

867
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:45.270
And it appears that he's kind of doing it more for the shallowness and the path

868
00:49:45.270 --> 00:49:45.880
because

869
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:50.650
it looks like the club is just working to get down towards the ground as

870
00:49:50.650 --> 00:49:51.440
opposed to

871
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.440
see more of a club face squaring.

872
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:59.040
Okay, so let me jump back.

873
00:49:59.040 --> 00:50:11.440
All right, so now those were the three swings sent in.

874
00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:17.640
So now, let me jump back to the PowerPoint real quick to go over one.

875
00:50:17.640 --> 00:50:25.960
I had a question about some of the wrist stuff in my presentation and I'm going

876
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:27.000
to go into

877
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:32.130
a little bit more in depth on that and then we'll go over just the discussion

878
00:50:32.130 --> 00:50:35.000
style questions.

879
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:46.440
Okay, so with the wrist, I'll just do kind of the overview here.

880
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.240
So when we're looking at the wrist and the forearms, for the forearms, there

881
00:50:49.240 --> 00:50:49.480
are two

882
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:50.480
main bones.

883
00:50:50.480 --> 00:50:54.820
You've got your radius on the thumb side, which is the thicker bone here,

884
00:50:54.820 --> 00:50:55.760
thinner bone

885
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:56.760
here.

886
00:50:56.760 --> 00:51:01.530
And then you've got the ulna on the pinky side, which is more, which is the

887
00:51:01.530 --> 00:51:02.280
thin bone

888
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:05.720
down of the wrist and the thick bone up at the elbow.

889
00:51:05.720 --> 00:51:10.880
So they kind of have this almost like pincher look to them.

890
00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:16.670
And the wrist or the hand is actually eight bones, and that's going to be

891
00:51:16.670 --> 00:51:17.440
important when

892
00:51:17.440 --> 00:51:21.160
we look at these combined movements.

893
00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:26.940
Because the natural, when you're talking simplistically, we break it up into

894
00:51:26.940 --> 00:51:27.400
flexion

895
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:31.680
extension on a radial deviation, pronation, supination.

896
00:51:31.680 --> 00:51:36.040
But physiologically, let me jump that.

897
00:51:36.040 --> 00:51:42.560
So physiologically, the joint tends to move in more of a combined movement.

898
00:51:42.560 --> 00:51:49.400
And the reason is if you look at these eight bones of the wrist, there's four

899
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:50.160
bones on

900
00:51:50.160 --> 00:51:52.680
the inside and four bones on the outside.

901
00:51:52.680 --> 00:52:00.680
And they kind of create a gliding kind of sub joint there.

902
00:52:00.680 --> 00:52:06.040
They act as one unit, but they behave like two different independent rows.

903
00:52:06.040 --> 00:52:10.440
So let me, I think we're getting better at being able to stop and share.

904
00:52:10.440 --> 00:52:16.540
So the two joints kind of sit on top of each other right here, kind of on top

905
00:52:16.540 --> 00:52:17.240
like this.

906
00:52:17.240 --> 00:52:22.360
And they have some sliding this way, they have some rotation this way.

907
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:29.310
So what ends up happening is, for example, when you go to extend your wrist

908
00:52:29.310 --> 00:52:30.280
like this,

909
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:33.800
you have two different rows, think of it as like a joint of three.

910
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:37.320
So it's here, this is the first row, this is the second row.

911
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:41.310
When you go into extension, more of the more of the extension is happening from

912
00:52:41.310 --> 00:52:41.920
the distal

913
00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:42.920
row.

914
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:48.040
And when you go into flexion, more of it is happening from the proximal row.

915
00:52:48.040 --> 00:52:54.480
Now those two rows aren't 100% parallel, they're on a little bit of an oblique

916
00:52:54.480 --> 00:52:55.480
axis.

917
00:52:55.480 --> 00:53:04.160
And what we'll see when we jump back to that slide there is you'll see that on

918
00:53:04.160 --> 00:53:05.360
the thumb

919
00:53:05.360 --> 00:53:10.340
side, there's more of the bones towards the thumb side of the wrist than

920
00:53:10.340 --> 00:53:11.600
towards the pinky

921
00:53:11.600 --> 00:53:12.600
side.

922
00:53:12.600 --> 00:53:16.590
So the muscle attachments that tend to pull you into extension with a

923
00:53:16.590 --> 00:53:18.400
combination of how

924
00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:26.300
the wrist joint is a little bit higher above than it is below, that blocks the

925
00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:26.640
first row

926
00:53:26.640 --> 00:53:28.240
from going into extension.

927
00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:31.400
So most of the extension happens here, all the attachments or more of the

928
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:31.880
attachments

929
00:53:31.880 --> 00:53:32.880
are on the thumb side.

930
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.770
So when you go into extension, it pulls the thumb up towards the elbow, which

931
00:53:37.770 --> 00:53:38.280
is that

932
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:45.400
combination of extension with radial deviation.

933
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:49.320
And then the opposite, you can see there's a little bit more space there.

934
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:54.200
When you pull that down, it's going to tend to move on that axis, which is

935
00:53:54.200 --> 00:53:55.120
going to pull

936
00:53:55.120 --> 00:53:58.560
it into ulnar deviation, I'll demonstrate that again.

937
00:53:58.560 --> 00:54:03.280
But here's a quick little visual of what's going on.

938
00:54:03.280 --> 00:54:08.830
These eight bones, one book I read described it as like a bunch of walnuts in a

939
00:54:08.830 --> 00:54:09.240
bag, but

940
00:54:09.240 --> 00:54:11.560
they're perfectly fitting together.

941
00:54:11.560 --> 00:54:15.960
And they act almost like little gears, creating different tensions.

942
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:20.800
And when you go to extend the wrist, the bones shift a little bit this way.

943
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.280
So this is radial deviation or a reduction.

944
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:30.760
And then when you go to ulnar deviate or adduct, it goes more this way.

945
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:35.320
So you can see here's kind of the sticking point and bone wise.

946
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:38.790
When you go into radial deviation, here's the sticking point and bone wise when

947
00:54:38.790 --> 00:54:39.160
it goes

948
00:54:39.160 --> 00:54:40.920
into ulnar deviation.

949
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:44.740
You've got more space when it goes into ulnar deviation, which is why you have

950
00:54:44.740 --> 00:54:45.280
more range

951
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:46.520
of motion there.

952
00:54:46.520 --> 00:54:51.590
And the attachments that take it into extension or radial deviation tend to

953
00:54:51.590 --> 00:54:52.800
connect on these

954
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:57.070
bones that are more up towards the thumb side, which helps make those two

955
00:54:57.070 --> 00:54:58.160
movements happen

956
00:54:58.160 --> 00:55:01.960
together.

957
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:06.730
So if you're looking at the wrist, you'll stand it up here, instead of thinking

958
00:55:06.730 --> 00:55:07.040
that

959
00:55:07.040 --> 00:55:11.960
it does this, this, this, this, it really does that, that.

960
00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:16.120
So the natural line of action is more of an oblique movement.

961
00:55:16.120 --> 00:55:21.090
It's not really like you can do these movements, but the natural physiology, if

962
00:55:21.090 --> 00:55:22.680
you were to

963
00:55:22.680 --> 00:55:27.450
maximize how your muscles and the joints move together, it would be this way

964
00:55:27.450 --> 00:55:27.840
and it would

965
00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.480
be that way, those two going hand in hand.

966
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:35.440
So in general, that right wrist is going to get into this loaded position.

967
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:40.210
And then it starts to come through impact, but it's not fully there, it impacts

968
00:55:40.210 --> 00:55:40.480
.

969
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:46.540
In fact, it approximates the, it's, it's close to one of the positions that has

970
00:55:46.540 --> 00:55:48.520
the greatest

971
00:55:48.520 --> 00:55:54.300
freedom of movement, which is when you have about 15 degrees of ulnar deviation

972
00:55:54.300 --> 00:55:54.640
and a

973
00:55:54.640 --> 00:55:56.920
fair amount of extension.

974
00:55:56.920 --> 00:56:02.160
This is where kind of we write, we eat like in this position is where we have

975
00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:02.800
some of the

976
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:08.580
highest precision that's pretty close to that right arm flying wedge type field

977
00:56:08.580 --> 00:56:09.480
training.

978
00:56:09.480 --> 00:56:12.920
The left arm works more this way.

979
00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:16.480
So it's the combination of ulnar deviation and flexion.

980
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:19.200
And then the weight of the club pulls it more towards the extension.

981
00:56:19.200 --> 00:56:25.040
But the movements it's doing is more of that, um, unhinged and flexing.

982
00:56:25.040 --> 00:56:29.040
All right, it's been a little while.

983
00:56:29.040 --> 00:56:35.880
So let me just check and see what kind of questions we've been having in other

984
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:36.280
than

985
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:37.280
holy cow.

986
00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:42.880
Look at all these technical issues, black screen and stuff like that.

987
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:50.930
Um, perfect, could you apply, uh, could that apply to the club as well,

988
00:56:50.930 --> 00:56:52.600
flexible shafts

989
00:56:52.600 --> 00:56:58.080
makes it easier to shallow, uh, you know, I haven't played around with that.

990
00:56:58.080 --> 00:57:06.800
Um, that might be something I'm thinking through, um, you might be a little bit

991
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:07.840
more limited

992
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:13.120
in terms of how well that would work actually hitting a golf ball.

993
00:57:13.120 --> 00:57:19.960
So I do believe that getting, um, too many or sorry, the more flexible shaft

994
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:20.940
would allow

995
00:57:20.940 --> 00:57:26.720
it to shallow, shallow opens up the face and the more bending of the shaft, the

996
00:57:26.720 --> 00:57:27.080
harder

997
00:57:27.080 --> 00:57:29.000
it is to motorcycle.

998
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:36.080
Um, so there is a, I think you'd get to a, um, kind of cost benefit analysis

999
00:57:36.080 --> 00:57:36.800
where two

1000
00:57:36.800 --> 00:57:40.600
flexible shaft might make it easier to shallow, but harder to square the face.

1001
00:57:40.600 --> 00:57:44.200
Um, but that's something worth maybe messing around with.

1002
00:57:44.200 --> 00:57:52.140
Um, I know that, uh, TBT is able to do more flexible shafts and better control

1003
00:57:52.140 --> 00:57:52.840
of the

1004
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:58.630
torque, um, and most of the people gutting fit through TBT tend to do better

1005
00:57:58.630 --> 00:57:59.400
with a more

1006
00:57:59.400 --> 00:58:00.400
flexible shaft.

1007
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.720
That could be potentially why, um, yes.

1008
00:58:05.720 --> 00:58:06.720
All right.

1009
00:58:06.720 --> 00:58:07.720
Perfect.

1010
00:58:07.720 --> 00:58:12.280
So now let me jump back because that would look like the only question.

1011
00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:16.120
So let me jump back to the questions that came in beforehand.

1012
00:58:16.120 --> 00:58:20.130
Now my goal with these, uh, kind of coaches calls is, uh, I had a bunch of the

1013
00:58:20.130 --> 00:58:20.840
questions

1014
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:23.520
come in and kind of in the last 24 hours.

1015
00:58:23.520 --> 00:58:27.790
Um, if, if I do a better job of asking for the questions early and if we get

1016
00:58:27.790 --> 00:58:28.480
them early

1017
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.530
enough, I'll be able to, you know, pull up examples or pictures to help make it

1018
00:58:32.530 --> 00:58:33.000
easier

1019
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:38.200
instead of me just kind of walking through and demonstrating, but, um, I'll do

1020
00:58:38.200 --> 00:58:38.800
my, my

1021
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:39.800
best.

1022
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:43.630
And if you find that something I discuss, you want to go in a little bit more

1023
00:58:43.630 --> 00:58:44.080
depth,

1024
00:58:44.080 --> 00:58:48.380
like a little PowerPoint or something, um, you can let me know afterwards as

1025
00:58:48.380 --> 00:58:48.880
well as

1026
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.880
part of the feedback for this.

1027
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:51.880
Okay.

1028
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:56.650
Uh, so had a couple of questions from Robbie, um, as far as junior golf

1029
00:58:56.650 --> 00:58:58.160
development goes,

1030
00:58:58.160 --> 00:59:02.920
when would you attack someone who has excessive jump side bend pattern?

1031
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.470
Um, basically, okay, so they get all their power from their legs and, and, you

1032
00:59:07.470 --> 00:59:07.840
know,

1033
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:12.080
this would have been a great one to see exactly where it's coming from.

1034
00:59:12.080 --> 00:59:18.240
Um, but when would you address too much of the vertical jump?

1035
00:59:18.240 --> 00:59:24.360
So even, even with kids, I like to layer, like, okay, there's three skills to

1036
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:25.060
playing

1037
00:59:25.060 --> 00:59:26.060
golf.

1038
00:59:26.060 --> 00:59:29.160
You got to control the path, which is low point and swing direction.

1039
00:59:29.160 --> 00:59:33.000
You got to control the face to path, um, which is how much it's going to curve

1040
00:59:33.000 --> 00:59:33.460
and where

1041
00:59:33.460 --> 00:59:34.560
it's going to start.

1042
00:59:34.560 --> 00:59:40.000
And then you've got to control the sequencing or how you create power.

1043
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.250
What I would imagine is if they have too much jump side bend, then they're

1044
00:59:44.250 --> 00:59:45.000
probably going

1045
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:48.360
to have trouble with either the face to path or the path.

1046
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:53.130
And so I would use making them struggle with one of the other skills as the

1047
00:59:53.130 --> 00:59:53.920
gateway to opening

1048
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.200
them up to working on, uh, technique.

1049
00:59:57.200 --> 01:00:03.420
Um, but if they're having, so I wouldn't necessarily just change a jump side

1050
01:00:03.420 --> 01:00:04.800
bend pattern just

1051
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:09.040
for the sake of changing it, I would change it because they're having trouble.

1052
01:00:09.040 --> 01:00:12.530
The club face is closing too fast because of the way they're pulling away, um,

1053
01:00:12.530 --> 01:00:13.120
or they're

1054
01:00:13.120 --> 01:00:16.600
having a, having trouble getting low point far enough forward.

1055
01:00:16.600 --> 01:00:20.810
Those will be the two main things that I would worry about with having too much

1056
01:00:20.810 --> 01:00:21.960
of a jump

1057
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:23.440
side bend pattern.

1058
01:00:23.440 --> 01:00:30.300
Um, but I would say that that's going to be a lot easier when you, uh, when you

1059
01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:31.200
get into

1060
01:00:31.200 --> 01:00:37.090
let's say, you know, more in the 15 years old, 14, 15 year old range, um, than

1061
01:00:37.090 --> 01:00:37.880
if they're

1062
01:00:37.880 --> 01:00:44.900
really jumping a lot as a 10 to 12 year old, um, just cause as the core, as

1063
01:00:44.900 --> 01:00:46.360
they go through

1064
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:50.140
their growth, typically the legs get stronger than the core and it's not until

1065
01:00:50.140 --> 01:00:50.560
a little

1066
01:00:50.560 --> 01:00:53.000
bit later that the core catches up.

1067
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:59.790
But things like the, the rope and doing, uh, core activity, um, you know, like

1068
01:00:59.790 --> 01:01:00.320
I, I would

1069
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:05.170
definitely get them doing some medicine ball stuff, more, maybe some upper body

1070
01:01:05.170 --> 01:01:06.040
core rotation

1071
01:01:06.040 --> 01:01:11.430
stuff, um, earlier on, uh, to see if it's more of a pattern or if it's more of

1072
01:01:11.430 --> 01:01:12.400
a, you

1073
01:01:12.400 --> 01:01:17.180
know, just ingrained imbalance, um, because it's very easy for kids to get too

1074
01:01:17.180 --> 01:01:17.880
lower body

1075
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:20.320
dominant as far as power goes.

1076
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:25.340
Uh, his second question, um, the trail hands thing on the ground in follow

1077
01:01:25.340 --> 01:01:26.240
through.

1078
01:01:26.240 --> 01:01:30.680
How does that affect, um, first of all, do you like training that?

1079
01:01:30.680 --> 01:01:33.920
How would that likely affect the path face?

1080
01:01:33.920 --> 01:01:40.760
Um, so my main issue with trying to keep that trail foot on the ground, it, it

1081
01:01:40.760 --> 01:01:41.320
helps the

1082
01:01:41.320 --> 01:01:45.440
foot learn how to kind of bank and push against the ground properly.

1083
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:53.270
Um, but it is very hard for most golfers to get to a full finish, um, unless

1084
01:01:53.270 --> 01:01:53.920
they have

1085
01:01:53.920 --> 01:01:58.800
a very high amount of external rotation of the trail hip.

1086
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:07.890
So if I'm, if that foot stays planted on the ground, then basically doing this

1087
01:02:07.890 --> 01:02:08.980
with the

1088
01:02:08.980 --> 01:02:13.560
trail hip is the only way I can get my belt buckle to face towards the target.

1089
01:02:13.560 --> 01:02:18.490
So now I'm, I'm on the very inside of my foot and that's about as far as I can

1090
01:02:18.490 --> 01:02:19.040
get with

1091
01:02:19.040 --> 01:02:20.040
the hip.

1092
01:02:20.040 --> 01:02:24.880
The only way I'm going to get to a full finish is if my foot comes up a little

1093
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:25.480
bit.

1094
01:02:25.480 --> 01:02:30.280
So you do have to be careful with golfers who have tight external hip rotation,

1095
01:02:30.280 --> 01:02:31.480
uh, for,

1096
01:02:31.480 --> 01:02:36.250
for certain if you give them that drill, um, typically what will happen is

1097
01:02:36.250 --> 01:02:37.080
because the

1098
01:02:37.080 --> 01:02:41.850
hip will get stuck, they'll start to extend a little bit, which will cause the,

1099
01:02:41.850 --> 01:02:42.240
them to

1100
01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:45.640
close the club face and typically swing the path a little bit to the left.

1101
01:02:45.640 --> 01:02:50.650
Um, so if it's a trail hip restriction, they'll probably err on getting more of

1102
01:02:50.650 --> 01:02:51.400
like a pull

1103
01:02:51.400 --> 01:02:57.180
hook, um, probably hitting some, some steeper fat shots as well, um, because

1104
01:02:57.180 --> 01:02:58.200
the upper body

1105
01:02:58.200 --> 01:03:07.120
may shift forward to take some of the pressure off of the, off of the, um, hip.

1106
01:03:07.120 --> 01:03:08.120
All right.

1107
01:03:08.120 --> 01:03:11.600
I've got a couple of questions coming in.

1108
01:03:11.600 --> 01:03:15.840
Also hard to see from behind, but there does not appear to be right lateral.

1109
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:18.600
Oh, that was back with the, uh, Jim Fert person.

1110
01:03:18.600 --> 01:03:19.600
Yes.

1111
01:03:19.600 --> 01:03:20.600
I completely agree.

1112
01:03:20.600 --> 01:03:25.960
Um, question as far as, could you attach a rope to the end of the orange whip?

1113
01:03:25.960 --> 01:03:26.960
That's interesting.

1114
01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:32.520
I haven't, um, I've got some, some old rope that I might play around with.

1115
01:03:32.520 --> 01:03:38.650
I'm not sure what, uh, yeah, I think, I think that could potentially work like

1116
01:03:38.650 --> 01:03:39.640
even better

1117
01:03:39.640 --> 01:03:41.160
than the shallow stick.

1118
01:03:41.160 --> 01:03:44.480
Um, yeah, I'll have to, I'll have to mess around with that.

1119
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.520
Good, good idea there, Chris.

1120
01:03:46.520 --> 01:03:50.160
Um, all right, back to some of these questions.

1121
01:03:50.160 --> 01:03:57.480
Uh, Tim was asking about speed for, for ages three to four, four, five to six.

1122
01:03:57.480 --> 01:04:02.380
Um, basically there's a, you know, he's seen some of the, uh, pressure board,

1123
01:04:02.380 --> 01:04:03.200
seen, seen

1124
01:04:03.200 --> 01:04:08.250
the Mike ropes, uh, kids love the ropes, um, and so do some of my, uh, older

1125
01:04:08.250 --> 01:04:09.240
golfers.

1126
01:04:09.240 --> 01:04:14.360
So you saw I had some of the older and female, you know, older females using

1127
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:15.560
the rope stuff.

1128
01:04:15.560 --> 01:04:17.160
They think that's a lot of fun.

1129
01:04:17.160 --> 01:04:25.660
Um, so the, the kids, um, have liked it as well, especially if I do stuff with

1130
01:04:25.660 --> 01:04:26.560
them and

1131
01:04:26.560 --> 01:04:30.160
give them little targets to try to snap the rope at.

1132
01:04:30.160 --> 01:04:33.180
Um, everybody likes to hit stuff with the rope.

1133
01:04:33.180 --> 01:04:38.160
And I think it's really good for, for developing that, that late sequencing.

1134
01:04:38.160 --> 01:04:43.600
Um, I also love for kids doing, um, sprinting and jumping.

1135
01:04:43.600 --> 01:04:51.500
Um, and the, the jet stick, the speed chain, um, works pretty well for them as

1136
01:04:51.500 --> 01:04:52.000
well.

1137
01:04:52.000 --> 01:04:58.040
Uh, I don't differentiate a huge, for me, three to four and five to six kind of

1138
01:04:58.040 --> 01:04:58.360
fit in

1139
01:04:58.360 --> 01:04:59.360
the same category.

1140
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:04.220
Um, but I don't, I don't do a ton of juniors under the age of about, I'd say,

1141
01:05:04.220 --> 01:05:05.760
13, 14.

1142
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:11.540
Um, but when I do in my mind, I'm kind of breaking it up with, uh, like, I've

1143
01:05:11.540 --> 01:05:12.360
got, um,

1144
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:17.130
two kids who were like seven, eight years old, um, they're a lot more, you know

1145
01:05:17.130 --> 01:05:17.560
, keep

1146
01:05:17.560 --> 01:05:23.160
everything simple, um, and air more on kind of the big gross patterns.

1147
01:05:23.160 --> 01:05:26.690
Once you get to about that 12 year old range, I think you can start getting

1148
01:05:26.690 --> 01:05:27.400
into a little

1149
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:34.320
bit more of the fine tuning details, uh, question on 4D motion.

1150
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:36.240
How should I use it with my students?

1151
01:05:36.240 --> 01:05:43.070
Um, I, the, the best thing I, I like 4D motion for, um, and to be, to be fair,

1152
01:05:43.070 --> 01:05:44.160
I've just kind

1153
01:05:44.160 --> 01:05:46.440
of got mine up and messing around with it.

1154
01:05:46.440 --> 01:05:51.290
Um, but the, the simplest thing is where you put it in just the live biofeed

1155
01:05:51.290 --> 01:05:52.200
back mode,

1156
01:05:52.200 --> 01:05:59.060
um, and use one or two sensors, just to train a specific, like small movement

1157
01:05:59.060 --> 01:05:59.960
in space,

1158
01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:04.190
do 10 to 15 reps or so, um, and then take it off and try to duplicate with a

1159
01:06:04.190 --> 01:06:04.760
club.

1160
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:08.760
So have them do it with the feedback, get video of what it looks like, usually

1161
01:06:08.760 --> 01:06:09.080
just

1162
01:06:09.080 --> 01:06:15.920
on my phone, and then try to duplicate it with the club, um, and kind of go off

1163
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:16.280
the

1164
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:17.280
comparison there.

1165
01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:21.100
So not just using biofeedback, but biofeedback as well as visual, I think can

1166
01:06:21.100 --> 01:06:22.040
be very helpful.

1167
01:06:22.040 --> 01:06:30.080
Um, I like it a lot for, um, tilt, um, it's okay for the, for the wrist.

1168
01:06:30.080 --> 01:06:32.520
I've got to play around with it a little bit more there.

1169
01:06:32.520 --> 01:06:36.720
Um, I'll keep you, I'll keep you posted as I play around with the 4D motion

1170
01:06:36.720 --> 01:06:37.280
more.

1171
01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:42.050
Um, that might be one of the things that I can do in an upcoming webinar would

1172
01:06:42.050 --> 01:06:42.680
be more

1173
01:06:42.680 --> 01:06:49.620
like, uh, whether it's 4D or KVEST or, or it's, um, hack motion or some of

1174
01:06:49.620 --> 01:06:50.640
those simpler

1175
01:06:50.640 --> 01:06:53.360
3D systems, what do you have to watch out for?

1176
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:57.320
Um, the one thing, since I brought that up, the one thing I'd be here, uh, I

1177
01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:58.000
got to mess

1178
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:02.850
around with a hack motion, and, uh, one of the things we found was if you took

1179
01:07:02.850 --> 01:07:03.800
the clip

1180
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:09.560
and you attached it to the glove, like they recommend, um, we had, I think 13

1181
01:07:09.560 --> 01:07:10.320
or 14 degrees

1182
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:11.760
of extension.

1183
01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:16.720
Just because I had my 3D system there, we took off the, the clip and taped it

1184
01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:17.200
to the

1185
01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:18.440
back of the hand.

1186
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:23.210
The same swinger, so the same person swinging the club had one degree of

1187
01:07:23.210 --> 01:07:24.000
extension.

1188
01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:29.440
So there's a potential that the weight, like the, the club getting pulled off

1189
01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:30.120
of the, the

1190
01:07:30.120 --> 01:07:34.890
glove, because it's just not quite as tight as being taped to the skin, is over

1191
01:07:34.890 --> 01:07:35.360
reading

1192
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.320
some of the extension down at impact.

1193
01:07:38.320 --> 01:07:40.720
So just got to be careful with that.

1194
01:07:40.720 --> 01:07:46.600
It could also be, um, over reading some of the owner deviation.

1195
01:07:46.600 --> 01:07:53.610
Is there any question came in, um, is there any downside to training

1196
01:07:53.610 --> 01:07:56.200
exaggerated hand separation

1197
01:07:56.200 --> 01:07:58.440
using the axe handle?

1198
01:07:58.440 --> 01:08:01.000
Um, I don't think so.

1199
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:07.880
I, I, I use like a split grip drill for a lot of anti flip style stuff, um, and

1200
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:08.440
I haven't

1201
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:13.210
had, you know, with, with proper dosing, I, I don't think it can cause any real

1202
01:08:13.210 --> 01:08:13.960
problems.

1203
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:16.560
Did you send a copy of the PowerPoint to us?

1204
01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:17.560
Uh, sure.

1205
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:24.540
Um, you're going to have access the, um, you're going to have this video to be

1206
01:08:24.540 --> 01:08:25.880
able to watch

1207
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:30.650
again because the, you know, if I send the, the PDF of the PowerPoint, the

1208
01:08:30.650 --> 01:08:31.280
videos won't

1209
01:08:31.280 --> 01:08:32.280
play.

1210
01:08:32.280 --> 01:08:36.100
Um, and most of the PowerPoint was videos, but let me know if there's something

1211
01:08:36.100 --> 01:08:36.680
specific

1212
01:08:36.680 --> 01:08:41.000
in there that you want to see and perhaps I can do that.

1213
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:45.680
Uh, Chris was asking, what produces the most speed with the arms?

1214
01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:48.600
Is it supination, extension of the arms, releasing radial?

1215
01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:53.740
Um, and there's a, there are a couple of questions that kind of came in as far

1216
01:08:53.740 --> 01:08:56.400
as, um,

1217
01:08:56.400 --> 01:09:00.280
where was the other question?

1218
01:09:00.280 --> 01:09:05.830
So as far as like, if you look at Dr. Juan, Sasha McKenzie stuff, they talk

1219
01:09:05.830 --> 01:09:06.240
about creating

1220
01:09:06.240 --> 01:09:08.960
all that maximum force early.

1221
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:14.780
And then if you, you know, look at, or you listen to, you know, Joe Mayo, Jeff

1222
01:09:14.780 --> 01:09:15.600
Smith,

1223
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:19.240
or Mike Romontowski, it's speed late going through.

1224
01:09:19.240 --> 01:09:21.400
Um, how does that all work?

1225
01:09:21.400 --> 01:09:28.520
Um, so the, the force is created early primarily from the body movement.

1226
01:09:28.520 --> 01:09:33.290
If you get too active with the arms early, it will limit how much you can

1227
01:09:33.290 --> 01:09:34.520
typically, uh,

1228
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.640
get the vertical force in that left foot, which is usually what, um, the, the

1229
01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:38.940
ground

1230
01:09:38.940 --> 01:09:45.780
force guys are looking at, um, and the maximum linear speed, which is just a,

1231
01:09:45.780 --> 01:09:46.600
which will

1232
01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:55.440
be after when you created the maximum force is somewhere up around here.

1233
01:09:55.440 --> 01:09:59.630
The right around there is when the handle is moving its fastest, whoops, in a

1234
01:09:59.630 --> 01:10:00.120
linear

1235
01:10:00.120 --> 01:10:05.900
fashion, and then from there, the real magic is taking all that linear speed

1236
01:10:05.900 --> 01:10:06.800
and converting

1237
01:10:06.800 --> 01:10:09.280
it into angular speed.

1238
01:10:09.280 --> 01:10:14.170
And that's the, the interesting thing why I went that way with this question is

1239
01:10:14.170 --> 01:10:14.840
amateurs

1240
01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:21.680
and pros don't have that great of a difference between their linear speed of

1241
01:10:21.680 --> 01:10:22.680
the handle,

1242
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:26.400
but they have a tremendous difference between the angular speed.

1243
01:10:26.400 --> 01:10:31.390
So basically better golfers are able to take the speed that they create and

1244
01:10:31.390 --> 01:10:32.280
transfer it

1245
01:10:32.280 --> 01:10:38.060
into rotational speed, and that primarily comes from more of the supination, um

1246
01:10:38.060 --> 01:10:38.600
, with

1247
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:43.370
a little bit of the releasing the radial, um, flexion extension doesn't have a

1248
01:10:43.370 --> 01:10:43.760
whole

1249
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:44.760
lot.

1250
01:10:44.760 --> 01:10:50.900
Um, the, the trail arm extension, uh, has some that is probably about a half to

1251
01:10:50.900 --> 01:10:51.560
a third

1252
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:56.330
of that of the supination, the supination speeds, um, are typically going to be

1253
01:10:56.330 --> 01:10:56.640
quite

1254
01:10:56.640 --> 01:10:57.640
high.

1255
01:10:57.640 --> 01:11:03.320
Um, so if I had to pick one, one arm movement that was producing the most speed

1256
01:11:03.320 --> 01:11:03.440
, it would

1257
01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:05.440
probably be that.

1258
01:11:05.440 --> 01:11:11.960
Um, is there any downside to training exaggerated handset right now?

1259
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:14.720
Oh, no, I already answered that one.

1260
01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:21.480
All right, let me go through got a few other emails.

1261
01:11:21.480 --> 01:11:25.680
Um, all right, so we talked a little bit.

1262
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:31.760
So if the arms are soft in transition, the body is typically creating more of

1263
01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:33.160
the speed.

1264
01:11:33.160 --> 01:11:37.930
So that's why these two things aren't necessarily like mutually exclusive,

1265
01:11:37.930 --> 01:11:38.800
creating a lot of

1266
01:11:38.800 --> 01:11:43.570
force early typically feels slower with the arms and the hands and then

1267
01:11:43.570 --> 01:11:44.760
transferring all

1268
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:47.080
that speed late typically feels very faster.

1269
01:11:47.080 --> 01:11:51.850
So a lot of golfers will produce better kinematics sequence force patterns by

1270
01:11:51.850 --> 01:11:52.440
feeling like they're

1271
01:11:52.440 --> 01:11:57.520
speeding up late, not by doing exactly what the science says and going early,

1272
01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:59.440
um, linear

1273
01:11:59.440 --> 01:12:01.320
versus nonlinear foot traces.

1274
01:12:01.320 --> 01:12:05.480
So you can have the foot trace going towards the target or going into the toe

1275
01:12:05.480 --> 01:12:06.020
and then

1276
01:12:06.020 --> 01:12:09.620
into the heel, typically going into the toe and then into the heel would be a

1277
01:12:09.620 --> 01:12:10.080
little

1278
01:12:10.080 --> 01:12:14.420
bit more powerful, um, because it's going into the toe where that foot is

1279
01:12:14.420 --> 01:12:15.340
pushing against

1280
01:12:15.340 --> 01:12:19.500
the ground in the direction of the target line to help create the rotation.

1281
01:12:19.500 --> 01:12:23.660
If it's just going towards the target, you'll, you'll almost be like trying to

1282
01:12:23.660 --> 01:12:25.060
spin on ice

1283
01:12:25.060 --> 01:12:29.460
instead of really kind of gripping and pushing against the ground.

1284
01:12:29.460 --> 01:12:34.450
Um, there might be something as far as more consistency with the linear, but,

1285
01:12:34.450 --> 01:12:35.100
uh, I don't

1286
01:12:35.100 --> 01:12:41.460
know that that's necessarily worth it, um, center pressure to front foot at P

1287
01:12:41.460 --> 01:12:42.220
five.

1288
01:12:42.220 --> 01:12:48.000
Uh, recent GG video with Ruiz showed COP go backward in transition to shallow

1289
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:49.260
the club,

1290
01:12:49.260 --> 01:12:52.660
um, never gets more than 60 43 impact.

1291
01:12:52.660 --> 01:13:00.540
So, uh, the, whenever you're looking at the foot stuff, um, I definitely would

1292
01:13:00.540 --> 01:13:01.020
look at

1293
01:13:01.020 --> 01:13:05.900
the, um, like the sample size and the reliability of the system.

1294
01:13:05.900 --> 01:13:09.930
I know that, um, body tracks can have a fair amount of availability, a

1295
01:13:09.930 --> 01:13:11.020
variability just

1296
01:13:11.020 --> 01:13:12.020
system to system.

1297
01:13:12.020 --> 01:13:15.650
Um, doesn't mean that they're, they're not bad, but if you're going off of

1298
01:13:15.650 --> 01:13:16.380
something

1299
01:13:16.380 --> 01:13:21.420
where you like, where you see 60 40, um, just know that there's probably some w

1300
01:13:21.420 --> 01:13:22.100
iggle room

1301
01:13:22.100 --> 01:13:23.100
with that.

1302
01:13:23.100 --> 01:13:28.240
Uh, Sashos got the, the AMTI plates with it, which is a lot more, and he has

1303
01:13:28.240 --> 01:13:29.020
two, one

1304
01:13:29.020 --> 01:13:38.420
for each foot, um, the, his, his research is probably the best at, um, so he

1305
01:13:38.420 --> 01:13:39.660
showed that

1306
01:13:39.660 --> 01:13:45.440
the greater the pressure in the lead foot at arm parallel, so the earlier you

1307
01:13:45.440 --> 01:13:45.780
get it

1308
01:13:45.780 --> 01:13:49.460
there, typically the more that you're going to be able to produce club S speed.

1309
01:13:49.460 --> 01:13:54.310
Um, and so the earlier you get it there and the greater you can get it there,

1310
01:13:54.310 --> 01:13:54.900
the more

1311
01:13:54.900 --> 01:13:58.820
you're going to produce, um, club head speed.

1312
01:13:58.820 --> 01:14:03.860
I, the, the problem, one of the other problems with pressure is if you're not

1313
01:14:03.860 --> 01:14:04.500
looking at

1314
01:14:04.500 --> 01:14:08.400
the total force, like this person may be pushing really hard with the left and

1315
01:14:08.400 --> 01:14:08.980
really hard

1316
01:14:08.980 --> 01:14:14.500
with the right, as opposed to, um, pushing less with the left.

1317
01:14:14.500 --> 01:14:19.270
So let's say you're pushing 200 Newton meters with the left and then the right

1318
01:14:19.270 --> 01:14:19.700
goes from

1319
01:14:19.700 --> 01:14:22.300
pushing, you know, 40 to 80.

1320
01:14:22.300 --> 01:14:25.820
Well, now the pressure is shifted more towards the right, even though the left

1321
01:14:25.820 --> 01:14:26.420
was pushing

1322
01:14:26.420 --> 01:14:29.020
the same intensity the whole time.

1323
01:14:29.020 --> 01:14:36.920
Um, so pressure is probably not quite as useful as force, but pressure is much

1324
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:37.300
more

1325
01:14:37.300 --> 01:14:42.020
readily available, um, because it's a lot cheaper to measure.

1326
01:14:42.020 --> 01:14:49.920
Um, alright, a few more, what, uh, if you have any other questions, please, uh,

1327
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:50.220
put

1328
01:14:50.220 --> 01:14:57.100
them in the, the chat and I'll do my best to get through anything.

1329
01:14:57.100 --> 01:15:05.000
Uh, okay, I see a couple, um, can you speak to the position of the neck at set

1330
01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:05.300
up and

1331
01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:07.140
its effect on the backswing?

1332
01:15:07.140 --> 01:15:10.700
I have them look through the bottom of their eyes, thoughts.

1333
01:15:10.700 --> 01:15:12.900
Um, okay.

1334
01:15:12.900 --> 01:15:20.160
So when it comes to the, when it comes to the neck, um, what's, okay, when it

1335
01:15:20.160 --> 01:15:20.760
comes

1336
01:15:20.760 --> 01:15:26.530
to the orienting yourself in space, there are five major areas that humans will

1337
01:15:26.530 --> 01:15:26.860
use.

1338
01:15:26.860 --> 01:15:32.530
They use the bottoms of the feet, um, they use their eyes, their ears, their

1339
01:15:32.530 --> 01:15:33.060
jaw, and

1340
01:15:33.060 --> 01:15:34.140
their spine.

1341
01:15:34.140 --> 01:15:38.910
Um, so maybe in another talk, I'll go into more detail on those, but the

1342
01:15:38.910 --> 01:15:39.820
orientation

1343
01:15:39.820 --> 01:15:46.220
of the neck, they could be positioning it off on a funny angle in order to get

1344
01:15:46.220 --> 01:15:46.780
their,

1345
01:15:46.780 --> 01:15:52.000
like, the, the actual vertebra and their jaw more in line, um, or they could be

1346
01:15:52.000 --> 01:15:52.820
doing it

1347
01:15:52.820 --> 01:15:57.580
so that they can see what's like, so that it looks a certain way with the eyes.

1348
01:15:57.580 --> 01:16:03.360
Um, as far as looking through the bottom of the eyes versus, um, through the

1349
01:16:03.360 --> 01:16:03.820
center

1350
01:16:03.820 --> 01:16:10.300
of the eyes, the, I think the most important thing there, um, everything I've

1351
01:16:10.300 --> 01:16:10.940
seen about

1352
01:16:10.940 --> 01:16:15.660
the quiet eye is that you want more of a wide field of vision.

1353
01:16:15.660 --> 01:16:21.580
So, um, perhaps looking out the bottom of the eye, um, that will create more

1354
01:16:21.580 --> 01:16:22.260
tension

1355
01:16:22.260 --> 01:16:26.580
through, uh, by looking down, that will create more tension in the spinal cord.

1356
01:16:26.580 --> 01:16:31.350
Um, so it could limit some spine rotation, having them look down, but it would

1357
01:16:31.350 --> 01:16:31.460
also

1358
01:16:31.460 --> 01:16:36.230
put the joints possibly in better alignment, so you might free up more, um,

1359
01:16:36.230 --> 01:16:36.980
rotation that

1360
01:16:36.980 --> 01:16:37.980
way.

1361
01:16:37.980 --> 01:16:41.140
Most of these things, when you look at the, the body, there's kind of a cost

1362
01:16:41.140 --> 01:16:41.360
benefit

1363
01:16:41.360 --> 01:16:47.780
analysis where if they have better, um, say spine flexibility, they might be

1364
01:16:47.780 --> 01:16:48.500
able to get

1365
01:16:48.500 --> 01:16:50.380
away with looking through the bottom of the eyes.

1366
01:16:50.380 --> 01:16:55.150
If they're, if they have less spine flexibility, they may need less tension in

1367
01:16:55.150 --> 01:16:55.660
the, in the

1368
01:16:55.660 --> 01:17:00.430
spinal cord or the matter, um, by having looking more through the center of the

1369
01:17:00.430 --> 01:17:00.980
sockets.

1370
01:17:00.980 --> 01:17:12.190
Um, as far as the, um, the neck orientation, the, I would say that the

1371
01:17:12.190 --> 01:17:14.860
hierarchy, um, making,

1372
01:17:14.860 --> 01:17:19.630
like, if you're not comfortable screening a golfer for seeing what their neck

1373
01:17:19.630 --> 01:17:20.020
range

1374
01:17:20.020 --> 01:17:25.940
of motion is, um, then look for the shoulders first times, if they start

1375
01:17:25.940 --> 01:17:27.140
struggling, when

1376
01:17:27.140 --> 01:17:30.450
they're getting into certain positions, it usually means that they're

1377
01:17:30.450 --> 01:17:31.420
potentially trying

1378
01:17:31.420 --> 01:17:36.410
to free up some flexibility in the neck and that you might have to try to find

1379
01:17:36.410 --> 01:17:37.260
a position

1380
01:17:37.260 --> 01:17:42.030
where, um, they have a little bit more range of motion, uh, but jumping back to

1381
01:17:42.030 --> 01:17:42.660
the, the

1382
01:17:42.660 --> 01:17:47.450
eyes and the wide field of view, um, the goal is that it, it's kind of a

1383
01:17:47.450 --> 01:17:48.700
diffuse look.

1384
01:17:48.700 --> 01:17:54.480
Um, the, I heard one, one guy describe it as more like, uh, almost like when we

1385
01:17:54.480 --> 01:17:54.660
were

1386
01:17:54.660 --> 01:18:00.560
doing those magic eyes back in the day, um, where you see it, but you're not

1387
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:01.740
really focused

1388
01:18:01.740 --> 01:18:02.740
on it.

1389
01:18:02.740 --> 01:18:07.680
So if they're, if they're too intent with where their eyes are, then I think it

1390
01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:08.260
's more

1391
01:18:08.260 --> 01:18:13.580
likely gonna disrupt the pattern rather than, um, help it.

1392
01:18:13.580 --> 01:18:17.600
They shouldn't be able to, like, read something perfectly clear, uh, when they

1393
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:18.380
're swinging.

1394
01:18:18.380 --> 01:18:21.550
It should be kind of a soft, diffuse gaze where they're kind of seeing

1395
01:18:21.550 --> 01:18:22.380
everything all

1396
01:18:22.380 --> 01:18:23.380
at once.

1397
01:18:23.380 --> 01:18:28.300
Um, Jules has a question, what are most, what are the most likely causes of

1398
01:18:28.300 --> 01:18:29.260
rage shoulders

1399
01:18:29.260 --> 01:18:35.050
through impact immediately after, um, that ink that, uh, indicates lots of

1400
01:18:35.050 --> 01:18:35.780
tension in

1401
01:18:35.780 --> 01:18:36.780
the swing?

1402
01:18:36.780 --> 01:18:41.560
Um, yeah, so I would say, um, we're talking about kind of shrugging or pulling

1403
01:18:41.560 --> 01:18:42.500
the shoulders

1404
01:18:42.500 --> 01:18:44.660
in that way through impact.

1405
01:18:44.660 --> 01:18:49.530
That can help with moving the low point forward, um, that can help with closing

1406
01:18:49.530 --> 01:18:51.860
the club face.

1407
01:18:51.860 --> 01:18:55.740
That can help with, um, absorbing the speed.

1408
01:18:55.740 --> 01:19:02.460
Um, so any of those three, it could be done to protect the left shoulder.

1409
01:19:02.460 --> 01:19:06.560
It could be done because they're trying to hold off, um, rotation of the

1410
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:07.380
forearm.

1411
01:19:07.380 --> 01:19:12.150
Um, it could be, it could happen because they're limited in terms of the

1412
01:19:12.150 --> 01:19:13.140
flexibility of the

1413
01:19:13.140 --> 01:19:14.140
forearm.

1414
01:19:14.140 --> 01:19:20.970
Um, that there's, there's a number of really logical causes for why they might,

1415
01:19:20.970 --> 01:19:21.460
um, be

1416
01:19:21.460 --> 01:19:24.340
kind of struggling and pulling in, uh, through impact.

1417
01:19:24.340 --> 01:19:30.290
So I would, I would, um, kind of work through the role of Dax and C. Can they

1418
01:19:30.290 --> 01:19:31.100
do it in nine

1419
01:19:31.100 --> 01:19:32.100
to three?

1420
01:19:32.100 --> 01:19:37.940
Um, then it's probably more speed related, um, if not, uh, can they do it?

1421
01:19:37.940 --> 01:19:43.930
Can they do a left arm only, um, because that one's really hard to shrug and,

1422
01:19:43.930 --> 01:19:44.500
uh, make

1423
01:19:44.500 --> 01:19:45.500
solid contact.

1424
01:19:45.500 --> 01:19:50.180
So that would be a couple, a couple of ways to investigate it.

1425
01:19:50.180 --> 01:19:55.220
Tim Taylor, what are the top three things you focus on junior golfers new to

1426
01:19:55.220 --> 01:19:55.900
golf?

1427
01:19:55.900 --> 01:19:58.060
What drills do you perform for spatial awareness?

1428
01:19:58.060 --> 01:20:00.700
Um, so junior golfers new to golf.

1429
01:20:00.700 --> 01:20:07.300
Um, I, I keep, I focus on ground contact and, uh, club face control.

1430
01:20:07.300 --> 01:20:13.420
So, um, teaching kind of club face open, club face closed, like out in front,

1431
01:20:13.420 --> 01:20:14.020
club face

1432
01:20:14.020 --> 01:20:19.810
open, club face closed, club face square at shaft parallel, same thing, follow

1433
01:20:19.810 --> 01:20:20.460
through

1434
01:20:20.460 --> 01:20:21.460
same thing.

1435
01:20:21.460 --> 01:20:24.460
If the ball goes left, it was closed, if it goes right, it was open.

1436
01:20:24.460 --> 01:20:28.150
And so working on that, if they have a hard time making contact, then working

1437
01:20:28.150 --> 01:20:28.740
on a little

1438
01:20:28.740 --> 01:20:32.800
bit more of kind of like a triangle drill and brushing the ground and then try

1439
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:33.300
to brush

1440
01:20:33.300 --> 01:20:38.070
the ground with the ball is, um, if they can't brush the ground, then typically

1441
01:20:38.070 --> 01:20:38.780
juniors have

1442
01:20:38.780 --> 01:20:41.780
a whole lot of extra, you know, upper body movement.

1443
01:20:41.780 --> 01:20:47.560
So potentially keeping that upper body, um, learning to, whether it's with a

1444
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:48.340
pool noodle

1445
01:20:48.340 --> 01:20:53.310
or me kind of creating a little box, just helping them visually orient where

1446
01:20:53.310 --> 01:20:54.020
their upper

1447
01:20:54.020 --> 01:20:56.860
body is in space.

1448
01:20:56.860 --> 01:21:00.910
Once you have those two, then it's more of like a rhythm thing, trying to

1449
01:21:00.910 --> 01:21:02.340
create more,

1450
01:21:02.340 --> 01:21:03.900
um, a little bit more speed.

1451
01:21:03.900 --> 01:21:08.740
That's where I'll use the rope or medicine balls or throwing, um, or, uh,

1452
01:21:08.740 --> 01:21:09.700
hockey stick

1453
01:21:09.700 --> 01:21:17.640
or stuff like that, uh, Jules, Mack told me that from P six on the head should

1454
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:18.700
go back

1455
01:21:18.700 --> 01:21:22.530
while she, you should be looking at the ball and tilting head towards the

1456
01:21:22.530 --> 01:21:23.120
target.

1457
01:21:23.120 --> 01:21:24.120
What do you think?

1458
01:21:24.120 --> 01:21:30.950
Um, yeah, I mean, every, every 3D, especially with, uh, driver shows that from

1459
01:21:30.950 --> 01:21:32.020
P six through

1460
01:21:32.020 --> 01:21:38.850
P eight, the thorax or the head is going to be going back this way and the head

1461
01:21:38.850 --> 01:21:39.700
looking

1462
01:21:39.700 --> 01:21:45.790
at the ball, um, or tilting towards the target is going to help facilitate the

1463
01:21:45.790 --> 01:21:46.900
rotation inside

1464
01:21:46.900 --> 01:21:52.690
of P seven, but yeah, I'm a, I'm a huge believer that a lot of bad drivers of

1465
01:21:52.690 --> 01:21:54.240
golf ball, um,

1466
01:21:54.240 --> 01:21:58.060
one of the main things that is limiting them is their attempt to try to get

1467
01:21:58.060 --> 01:21:58.880
onto that front

1468
01:21:58.880 --> 01:21:59.880
foot.

1469
01:21:59.880 --> 01:22:06.120
I teach a lot of, you know, trying to hang back, um, with the driver as a, and

1470
01:22:06.120 --> 01:22:06.880
cover it

1471
01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:08.400
more with the iron.

1472
01:22:08.400 --> 01:22:14.190
So I see that a lot, um, Mike, I'm definitely not going to get to all these

1473
01:22:14.190 --> 01:22:15.240
questions.

1474
01:22:15.240 --> 01:22:19.450
I have a student that can create a lot of speed when they focus on lead foot

1475
01:22:19.450 --> 01:22:20.300
early on the

1476
01:22:20.300 --> 01:22:24.180
downswing, but they lose their arm extension early.

1477
01:22:24.180 --> 01:22:29.960
But when they slow down or swing 10 miles per hour, they can focus on right

1478
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:30.980
wrist extension

1479
01:22:30.980 --> 01:22:43.390
and ulnar, um, gosh, so, yes, for, for some golfers, if they, um, let me, uh,

1480
01:22:43.390 --> 01:22:44.820
let me show

1481
01:22:44.820 --> 01:22:51.160
something from, bear with me one second.

1482
01:22:51.160 --> 01:22:53.020
All right.

1483
01:22:53.020 --> 01:23:00.000
So I'm collecting some video for, for doing a analysis on Cameron.

1484
01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:08.090
Uh, let me see if any of these are, okay, um, where's the one where I've got a

1485
01:23:08.090 --> 01:23:08.980
couple

1486
01:23:08.980 --> 01:23:15.580
that are zoomed in pretty good.

1487
01:23:15.580 --> 01:23:17.480
I think this will work though.

1488
01:23:17.480 --> 01:23:23.510
What you'll typically see is golfers who hit the ball a long, long way, um,

1489
01:23:23.510 --> 01:23:24.340
will tend

1490
01:23:24.340 --> 01:23:28.740
to go motorcycle a little bit later.

1491
01:23:28.740 --> 01:23:35.220
Um, so you'll see at this position that lead wrist has a, a bit of extension.

1492
01:23:35.220 --> 01:23:41.280
So that allows him to get more pull through the, the lats.

1493
01:23:41.280 --> 01:23:47.310
And then from right about here, down through impact, you'll see that he's able

1494
01:23:47.310 --> 01:23:47.860
to get a

1495
01:23:47.860 --> 01:23:48.860
little bit more flexion.

1496
01:23:48.860 --> 01:23:52.290
I, I don't want to waste the time looking for it, but I have a better, um,

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video where

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you can see it close up.

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01:23:54.660 --> 01:24:01.260
Um, that's a little bit, I mean, that's a coordination move.

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He's figured out how to time it right so that he can create max power early and

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then more

1502
01:24:07.700 --> 01:24:10.100
control with the wrist late.

1503
01:24:10.100 --> 01:24:20.540
What it sounds like is that your student hasn't quite figured that out yet.

1504
01:24:20.540 --> 01:24:25.770
And so he can either control the clubface with the, um, owner, or the flexion

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01:24:25.770 --> 01:24:26.460
of the

1506
01:24:26.460 --> 01:24:32.370
lead wrist, right, wrist extension, um, or he can create maximum speed by going

1507
01:24:32.370 --> 01:24:32.980
, you

1508
01:24:32.980 --> 01:24:39.420
know, faster with the wrist, but, um, so jumping back and forth between those

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01:24:39.420 --> 01:24:40.260
two is a good

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01:24:40.260 --> 01:24:43.660
way to kind of give them exposure to each of them.

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01:24:43.660 --> 01:24:50.500
Um, the other option is what could be happening is when they get a ton of lead

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01:24:50.500 --> 01:24:52.220
foot, um, the,

1513
01:24:52.220 --> 01:24:55.380
the upper body could be getting out of position and now their steeps and shall

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01:24:55.380 --> 01:24:55.860
ows is out of

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01:24:55.860 --> 01:25:01.640
balance and they have to use, um, so even though their speed increases, their

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01:25:01.640 --> 01:25:02.460
low point control

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01:25:02.460 --> 01:25:08.780
goes off and so they, they kind of have to, have to throttle it back, um, it,

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01:25:08.780 --> 01:25:10.700
it would

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01:25:10.700 --> 01:25:11.700
be tough.

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01:25:11.700 --> 01:25:16.770
So I, I definitely do some swings to, to break that out, I would do some swings

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01:25:16.770 --> 01:25:17.500
with full

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01:25:17.500 --> 01:25:21.150
speed and see if they can control where the club hits the ground, that'll let

1523
01:25:21.150 --> 01:25:21.580
me know

1524
01:25:21.580 --> 01:25:25.590
if they can do speed and path, um, if they can do that, but then can't do it

1525
01:25:25.590 --> 01:25:26.220
with a golf

1526
01:25:26.220 --> 01:25:29.380
ball, then I know that it's a pure club face, um, so that would be the

1527
01:25:29.380 --> 01:25:29.900
different shape,

1528
01:25:29.900 --> 01:25:35.020
the model I would use, um, tools with juniors, I know, I encourage them to

1529
01:25:35.020 --> 01:25:36.020
think of the golf

1530
01:25:36.020 --> 01:25:39.890
club as a tool similar to the ones that they know, that gets the coordination

1531
01:25:39.890 --> 01:25:40.300
that they

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01:25:40.300 --> 01:25:45.340
can find, um, that brings them pleasure and starts in that plot, I taught it.

1533
01:25:45.340 --> 01:25:50.350
Yeah, if they, if they have a background in tennis or hockey or baseball or,

1534
01:25:50.350 --> 01:25:51.180
you know,

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01:25:51.180 --> 01:25:59.800
some other racket or, um, stick sport, yes, it's awesome to be able, uh, to, um

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01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:00.820
, bring

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01:26:00.820 --> 01:26:05.590
what they already know how to do as part of the program, um, instead of having

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01:26:05.590 --> 01:26:05.980
to learn

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01:26:05.980 --> 01:26:08.940
everything, uh, straight from there.