Bump Then Turn The Hips Discussion

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In this concept video, we're going to talk about going laterally before going

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rotationally.

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So we're specifically going to look at transition, and we're going to look at

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the movement of

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the pelvis, and I'm going to use some 3D graphs, I'm going to use some 2D

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images to help you

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see some of the subtleties of this key piece to your transition.

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In the Forces in Motion seminar, Dr. Cheatham presented in his database, which

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is one of

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the largest databases of tour pros in the world, in his database, 96% of the

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tour pros demonstrated

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this pattern.

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Now I've looked at my own, and I've seen pretty much the same pattern, but I'm

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going to break

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it down into hopefully a little bit more detail.

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So the pattern is essentially that the lateral motion towards the target is

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going to proceed

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the rotational motion towards the target.

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So basically, they're making their backswing, at some point the pelvis is going

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to start

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moving towards the target while it's still rotating backward, and then it's

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going to

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rotate forward.

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I'm going to talk a little bit about how are things that's happening and why,

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and what

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it means for when you're training and trying to put in reps.

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But there's generally two different patterns that I see on tour.

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One would be that it happens relatively early in the backswing, and that tends

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to happen

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if the golfer has a slower hip contribution.

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So the people who have really explosive hips tend to do it a little bit later.

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I'll show you when these two phases happen.

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So I don't have a single golfer who has their pelvis move towards the target

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during the

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takeaway.

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But some golfers will have a little bit of movement away from the target, and

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then right

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about here, shaft parallel is where the transition of their lower body from

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moving away from

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the target towards the target happens.

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So they'll start shifting towards the target gradually and a little bit more

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slowly than

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the ones who go a little bit later.

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The second option would be right around or a little bit past arm parallel.

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The pelvis starts moving towards the target as they get an additional maybe

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five degrees

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of pelvic rotation.

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So there's this lateral movement while the pelvis is still rotating away from

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the target.

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That's similar to that Jackson 5 move, which is why I'm big on teaching that,

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especially

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if you struggle with the driver or slicing the ball.

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So getting a little bit of that lateral movement before you start to get any of

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your rotational

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movement can be important for your transition sequencing.

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Now I think it's important to recognize that some of this transition lateral

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movement doesn't

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have to be an active feeling.

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So I usually describe it as either a feeling of falling into the front foot,

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which some

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of the vertical force talks about.

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Some of the vertical force studies will show that there's kind of an unweight

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ing of that

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front foot.

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And you can see if my pelvis and my upper body are not directly over my foot or

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directly

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over my right foot.

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If I then unweight my left foot, that's going to cause my body to fall that way

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.

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Now I can also fall in a little bit more golfish way where the pelvis leads and

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the upper

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body doesn't quite go with it.

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But that will give me enough of the lateral bump that when I then actively

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start rotating

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my lower body, it's already taken care of with the lateral.

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That will tend to happen a little bit more with the second pattern, which is a

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little

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bit of the later lateral movement.

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I've had some golfers question about using that trail hip to really initiate it

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.

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The trail hip rotators will tend to cause rotation, even if you're trying to

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get more

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of that lateral movement.

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So that's why it's a little bit of a softer movement for most people.

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Some golfers, if you're really tied into kind of a spinning pattern, you may

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have to feel

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a little bit more of an active movement, but I think of it more as almost like

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the intensity

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of a step or a fall, not quite so much like a jump.

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The active phase I think comes a little bit later.

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So after you've already kind of shifted and gotten into that front foot, that's

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when a

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little bit more of the intensity kicks in.

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This lateral movement before the rotation tends to give the look of that squat.

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In transition, as opposed to if you were to just spin as you go down, that

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wouldn't give

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quite the knee separation or the look of the squat.

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One of the reasons that this can be important is amateurs, as I said, tend to

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struggle with

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rotation and then moving lateral, kind of like this, as opposed to linear and

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then going

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into rotation.

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So they go like amateurs will go like this and then move forward, kind of like

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that in

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one movement.

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And what ends up happening is they don't move the pelvis as far forward as the

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torpor average

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of about half a pelvis, a third of a pelvis.

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So they'll tend to kind of stay a little bit more centered, which causes st

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eeper angles

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of attack and causes leftward path, causing toe hits, poor contact, and

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troubles with

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the driver.

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So if you're struggling with those, then I would recommend that you take a

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closer look

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at your transition movement of your hips, whether it starts at shaft parallel

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or sorry,

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yeah, shaft parallel or arm parallel, but it's going to hopefully happen well

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before

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you get the arms all the way to the top of the swing.

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So in the rest of the video, we're going to look at 3D and 2D examples to help

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you visualize

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this pelvis movement during transition.

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We'll start by looking at some video, because if you're not used to looking at

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3D, sometimes

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it's a little bit of a challenge.

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So if you're looking at 2D video, you can look at the space between the outside

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of the

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pelvis or you can try to imagine the volume of the pelvis and look at where the

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center

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is.

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So in this particular example with Anthony Kim, you'll see that black pole in

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the background

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lines up pretty well with his right hip.

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Now what you'll see is right in here is the space is increasing and you'll see

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that his

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pelvis is slightly moving towards the target.

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So basically between right around here and right around there, even though his

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pelvis

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is continuing to rotate or his hip is rotating, which moves his pelvis in the

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backswing, you'll

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see that he's shifting towards the target.

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And it's not until he gets in right around here that you'll see more of the

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rotation

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happening.

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So probably right around here is when it's starting to rotate, but all through

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here it

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is slowly laterally moving in the direction of the target.

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You'll be able to see it a little bit easier from the back view.

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So you can see that lateral movement happening even though his pelvis is still

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or his hip

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is still rotating.

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So right in through there, he's still rotating into the hip as his pelvis is

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moving towards

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the target, and then right in through there is when he starts rotating, but by

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then he

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is already kind of initiated the slow movement of his lower body in the

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direction of the

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target before the rotation.

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So looking at a couple more examples, here we can see Rory who's got good

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little sway during

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his takeaway, but then you'll see that the pelvis starts to move towards his

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target right

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around there, and it's not going to start rotating until right around there,

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just before his

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hand starts changing direction.

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So you'll see that that lateral movement right in through there is going to

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lead into or

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happen before the pelvis rotation, and then they'll both continue through the

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majority

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of the downswing or through the majority of the transition until he gets into

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his bracing

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pattern.

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And then over here on the left, we've got Matt Kuchar, so less of a sway off

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the ball, but

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a little bit of a shift through his takeaway, and then you can see it start

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moving right

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in through here in the direction of the target.

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It's a little bit more subtle with his pattern, but you'll see that it's got

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that lateral movement

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happening right in through here before his pelvis gets into its rotation

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through there.

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So while roughly 96% of Torpo is demonstrating this pattern of slide or bump

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before rotation,

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next we'll take a look at a couple amateurs demonstrating the rotation before

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the bump.

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Now let's take a look at two amateur golfers demonstrating the rotate then

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slide pattern.

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Now it can be a challenge to see on 2D, so we'll look at some 3D right after

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this.

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But what you'll tend to see is as you go up towards the top of the swing, you

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'll see

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that there's no little bump movement.

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You'll see that that pelvis starts rotating right in there, and then it starts

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shifting.

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So it'll be a rotation movement, and then possibly a shift, or in this

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particular case

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not much of a shift at all.

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Now over on the right, we'll see the sway continues all the way up towards the

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top of

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the swing, and then if you watch his belt buckle, you'll see it start to rotate

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right

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there.

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You'll see the pelvis start to rotate, and then it's still rotating as it now

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gets into

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its lateral movement or slide pattern.

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But this will be easier to see when we compare the pro and the amateur golfers

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on 3D.

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Alright hopefully you follow it along with the videos, those are sometimes

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easier to

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see.

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Now we're going to take a look at some 3D graphs.

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If you've never seen a 3D graph, it's basically a timeline of a golf swing.

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So the black vertical lines represent different events in time.

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Here we have a dress, or the start of the swing, and we have top of the swing,

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impact,

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and finish.

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So all this is backswing, from this line to this line is the downswing, and

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from this

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line to this line is the follow through.

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The two different lines I have represent the lateral or the rotational movement

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So the red line is the pelvis rotation, the pelvis rotation you can see goes

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negative

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when it's rotating away from the target, and then when it changes direction is

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when

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the golfer starts rotating towards the target, when it crosses zero, when the

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pelvis would

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be facing the golf ball, and then when it goes positive, it's rotated more

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towards

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the target.

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The green line is the pelvis sway.

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When it goes negative, the golfer is moving the pelvis, the center of the pel

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vis away

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from the target, and when it goes positive, it is moving in the direction of

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the target.

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Now because I have them both on the same screen, and the rotation is much

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bigger in terms

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of value, it'll be a little harder to see the exact pattern of the linear

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movement.

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So what I've done is I've taken the snapshot of the golfer here that's where

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this green

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line falls on the graph.

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So this position right here is this position on the graph, and what you'll see

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is I've

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got it for the tour pros where the pelvis starts moving laterally towards the

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target.

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So you can see this right here is where this golfer has moved the furthest away

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from the

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target, and his pelvis is going to slowly start moving towards the target, and

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then it picks

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up a little bit of speed right around there.

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So if you wanted to, you could think of the early movement as more of that fall

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, and then

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as it starts accelerating, that would be a little bit more of the push, and you

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can see

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that both of those are happening well before the pelvis changes direction,

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which will be

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much closer to the top of the swing.

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In AMM, the top of the swing is defined by when the club head changes direction

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.

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So you can see there's a lateral movement before, and well before, the rot

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ational movement.

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We'll look at a couple other tour pros, and then look at the amateurs to see

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the subtle

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differences between the two.

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All right, here's another tour pro.

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This one is demonstrating more of the late pattern.

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So you'll see a little shift during the takeaway, and then a secondary little

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shift as he goes

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to set the club, and right around here is when the pelvis is going to start

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moving towards

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the target.

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But you can see that there's still a good few degrees, probably about five

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degrees of

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pelvis rotation away from the target while the pelvis is still moving laterally

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, or while

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the pelvis has already started moving laterally in the direction of the target.

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I've got one more example for you.

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This is the same golfer, same golf swing.

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I've just got two different points in time snapshot.

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One would be when the pelvis is the furthest away from the target.

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So you can see right there in the middle of the takeaway for this particular

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golfer is

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when the pelvis is the furthest away from the target, and then it starts moving

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back towards

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the target from there.

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That's where some golfers feel the bump really early.

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Now you can see that there's a little bit of a plateau kind of right here

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around zero.

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That's this point.

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So right around here is when the golfer is kind of going to set his arms and

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having

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a little bit less of the lateral movement towards the target.

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But after that, you can see that there's a clear pattern of the lower body

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moving in

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the direction of the target laterally, and you can see that that pattern starts

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right

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around here, but the pelvis rotation would happen much closer to when the club

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is near

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the top of the swing.

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This golfer is probably going to get the top of the swing pretty close to

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parallel, and

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the pelvis rotation would happen 10 degrees short of parallel or something

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along those

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lines.

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Now we'll look at a few amateur golfers and we'll be able to see a clear

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distinction

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where a clear difference in the pattern of how their pelvis and their lateral

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movement

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and rotation relate to each other.

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Now with amateur golfers, I've got the green line at the bottom of the pelvis

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rotation.

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So what you'll be able to see is from this point on, the pelvis is now rotating

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towards

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the target.

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You can see with this particular golfer, it's very close to where the bottom of

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the

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sway slide graph is, but it's actually, the sway slide graph is just a couple

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clicks

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after it.

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So this one's very, very close, but I wanted to show you kind of a closer

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pattern, similar

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to what we might have seen with one of those amateur golfers on the 2D, where

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they're pretty

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much changing direction at the same time.

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Typically, when they have that pattern, you won't see nearly as much of a shift

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of the

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pelvis towards the target, which can cause the steeper angle of attack as well

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as the

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path problem specifically for the driver.

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Here we have another golfer, has a little bit of that double peak pattern, but

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you can

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see this is the change of direction of the rotation, and you can see that the

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change

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of direction of the lateral movement happens again a few clicks after the pel

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vis changes

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direction.

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This is much more common with an amateur golfer compared to the 96% of tour

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pros who

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have the pattern that we looked at with the first three patterns.

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We've got one more example.

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This golfer has been told that he hangs back his very little lateral movement

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towards the

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target.

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What you can see on the graph is that the pelvis changes direction rotationally

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here before

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the top of the swing, but you can see that his pelvis doesn't change direction

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linearly

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until the pelvis is rotated a good 10 degrees open in the downswing.

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His pelvis is basically going to look like it stays over that right foot as it

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starts

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rotating, and then it's not until well late in the downswing that you're going

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to see

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any amount of lateral shift.

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Hopefully this discussion video helps clarify what's going on with the pelvis

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during transition.

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Again, 96% of tour pros demonstrate the pattern that we saw both in the 2D

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versions as well

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as the 3D versions where the pelvis is going to move laterally towards the

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target before

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it goes rotation.

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This doesn't mean that you have to be really explosive as you saw some of them

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do it very

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gradually and more like it is falling towards the target, but it is a key part

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to the proper

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pelvis transition sequence, especially when you get into the ideal angle of

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attack and

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path for creating optimal launch with the driver.

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If you're struggling with your pelvis, hopefully this helps you start to

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understand and visualize

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how to use some of the drills here in the transition section to help you with

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the lower

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body movement as you go from swinging the club back to swinging the club

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towards the

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target.