2016 WGFS - Driver Vs Iron Presentation
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What are the 3D differences between the driver and iron swing.
This is a webinar version of my 2016 World Golf Fitness Summit presentation on Swing Bias - 3D differences between driver and iron swing.
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Hi, I'm Tyler Farrell with Golf Smart Academy.
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This webinar, I'm going to present the presentation that I gave at the World
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Golf Fitness Summit
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in October of 2016 in New Orleans.
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The topic is looking at the 3D differences between the driver and the iron
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swing.
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Basically addressing the question, is there one swing that you can use
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throughout the
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bag or do you need to make adjustments to your swing other than just setup when
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you're
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going from, say, a driver to a short iron?
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Now in this presentation, I'm going to break it down into two different parts.
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In the first part, we're going to look at a bunch of 3D graphs.
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So if you're a golf coach or just a 3D golf nerd and you want to see some of
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the data
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behind the concepts that I tend to teach, I'm going to present that for about
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15 minutes
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or so.
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If you want to just jump to the end, you know, if you're not really into the 3D
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space and
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you really just want to jump to the end and see some of the before and afters
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and look
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at more 2D video practical applications, I think that that's fine.
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I'll put a little link here where you can jump right to when we start looking
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at golf
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swings instead of looking at 3D graphs.
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So I'll show you how understanding some of the differences between driver and
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iron can
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help you make changes.
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So this was one individual lesson who basically by understanding a different
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pivot concept
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was able to completely change his release and ball flight.
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And then I have another example where we'll go through a golfer who was driving
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the ball
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really well but struggling with his iron play.
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Because what I've noticed with both my students as well as myself is it's rare
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that you have
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the best driver day and the best iron day on the same day.
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So in this, the rest of this presentation, we're going to take a look at why
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that might
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be the case.
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Before I get into the data, I interviewed a number of coaches trying to figure
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out what
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they thought might be the difference between the driver swing and the iron
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swing.
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Now some coaches continue to stress that there's no difference, it's just set
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up.
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But many golf instructors focus on the access tilt or the position of the body
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and what
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changes during the swing with a driver and during an iron.
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Other coaches tend to focus more on what the goals are.
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So with a driver, you're trying to hit for angles and you're trying to maximize
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distance
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where with an iron, you're trying to strike it solidly and control trajectory
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and proximity
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to the hole.
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Now a few biomechanists described the driver swing as more of a total body
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activity while
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the iron swing is more of an upper body activity.
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Let's look at the data and see which ones of these hypotheses the data supports
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.
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So before we jump into the data, I want to give a big thank you to Johnson-Cl
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aire for
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providing some of these tour pro folders.
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I have a lot of driver swings, but he was able to share 31 different tour pro
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folders
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which had driver, five iron, a short iron, whether it was eight iron through
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wedge as
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well as a 30 yard pitch shot.
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So I was able to analyze some of these patterns and see if it was more of a
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spectrum or see
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if they were the same or where it changed and come up with some theories as to
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why.
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So the first section, we're going to go over the kinematic sequence, some
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positional changes
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between the upper and lower body and then some movements during the release
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specifically
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looking at supination.
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Again in the second half of this presentation, you can just jump ahead and see
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some case studies
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of how we apply this 3D data because I don't necessarily think every golfer out
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there needs
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to understand the 3D data, but if you're a coach, it can be really helpful for
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helping
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you think about the movement patterns in a more specific way.
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So my goal is to present you with the data and visuals and let you come up with
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ways
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that you can teach it.
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I'm not here to say that there's one perfect way to adjust the swing just
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because the graphs
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are a little bit different, but I want to get your brain thinking about the
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actual differences
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between the two and hopefully you can come up with some creative ways to get
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your students
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to make these changes and make it feel as seamless or athletic as possible.
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Now we know that the angle of attack tends to change throughout the bag.
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We know that with the short iron it's going to be somewhat down and with the
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driver it's
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going to be flat or even up.
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Hopefully up if you're trying to maximize distance.
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One of the questions is that we've kind of struggled with is is this purely a
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setup change,
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purely a equipment change or is there an intentional change to how the golfer
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is trying
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to swing the club.
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Hopefully the 3D data will shed a little light on which of these is the case.
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Now with the 3D data I took a look at a number of different parameters, but in
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this presentation
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because I was limited to 45 minutes I focused on the kinematic sequence changes
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, the axis
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tilt changes which would be we'll look at the differences in the sway graphs
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and then
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the lead wrist looking at supination.
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But as you can see if you want to pause this slide you can see that there were
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changes
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in what the body did, in how the club worked, as well as in the arms and the
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legs and if
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you have a good data set you can take a look at some of these patterns as well
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and see
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if your data matches the data that I was looking at.
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So the general change in the kinematic sequence, if you've looked at 3D and you
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've seen some
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of these 3D graphs you may be familiar with the two on screen.
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We have kind of the standard or classic full swing kinematic sequence and then
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we have
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the standard or classic 30 yard wedge shot.
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The 30 yard wedge shot has more of a fanning pattern, more of a cast pattern
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where the club
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is moving faster than the arm, arm moving faster than the torso, the torso
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moving faster
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than the pelvis even though the transition sequence is the same.
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With the full swing we see more of a downswing loading pattern so we see more
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of a lower body
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moving faster than the upper body, upper body moving faster than the arm, arm
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moving faster
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than the club to help maximize the speed gains and to potentially help with a
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little
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bit of the path requirements for the driver.
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The question is, is this more of a switch where you go from driver and all your
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full swing
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should look like the top graph and then once you get to these half shots it
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switches or
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is it more of a spectrum?
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Let's take a look at some different full swing graphs to help possibly explain
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that pattern.
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Is it more of a switch or is it more of a spectrum?
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The general trend with the kinematic sequence was that the driver swing was
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more of a loading
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pattern and then the wedge swing was more of a cast pattern so we'll look at a
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number
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of different examples so you can visualize what I'm talking about but while
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each individual
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golfer kept a little bit of their own signature and their own pattern, you'll
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see from looking
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at these graphs that tour pros do make some subtle shifts to how they're
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applying energy
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and how they are swinging the golf club within full swings, whether it's a
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short iron like
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an eight iron iron wedge or a full swing with the driver, it is not exactly the
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same pattern.
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What was interesting was tour pros pretty consistently made these changes to
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their swings
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where amateurs usually made the same swing with every club in their bag and
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tended to
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struggle with one end or the other depending on which end their pattern better
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matched.
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So here's how we're going to look at these graphs.
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I'm going to put up the driver and the iron version and then we're going to
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eyeball some
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of these differences.
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I'm not going to throw a ton of numbers at you, we're just going to look at the
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general
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movement patterns.
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Now if you've never seen a kinematic sequence graph, basically we have a
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timeline of the
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golf swing so we have a dress, top of the swing, impact finish.
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So this is all backswing, right here is downswing and then between these two
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lines is the follow
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through, when a line is negative it's rotating away from the target, when it's
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positive
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it's rotating towards the target.
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And what we can see is the red line is the pelvis, the green line is the thorax
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, the blue
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line is the left arm or lead arm and then the brown line is the club.
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So this particular golfer you can see is lower body change direction when it
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went from
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a negative to positive change direction here, clearly before the upper body
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then the upper
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body before the arm before the club and you can see that the red line is above
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for part
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of the downswing, the blue line is above for part of the downswing, that's more
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of a
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loading pattern.
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What we see here is the, when we now look at the wedge swing we can see that
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the red and
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the green kind of change direction together and the red is underneath the other
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graphs
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for the entire downswing.
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We can see that the blue and the brown are pretty much mirrored on top of each
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other, if
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I kind of toggle back and forth, you can see the general shift of being less of
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a load
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and more of a cast when we get to the wedge.
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So here's another golfer and in this one we'll see primarily a lower body or a
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hip change.
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So we can see the red line being well above the green line and kind of going
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first and
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faster and then if we shift we can see that the red line is now kind of in with
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going
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at about the same speed as the other parts of the body, kind of like so.
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Here's another example of a golfer who makes adjustments to both the hips and
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trunks.
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You can look at that transition starting sequence and we can see pretty clearly
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that that red
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line goes from leading the early part of the downswing to now just kind of
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supporting.
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We can see that the torso kind of follows in that same casting pattern as well.
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Okay, so we see that the tour pros tend to use a similar pattern throughout the
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bag but
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it's more of a cast.
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What about amateurs?
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Now amateurs are typically going to struggle with one end or the other and more
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often than
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not they struggle with the driver.
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So here's a mid-handicap golfer with their driver and we can see that it's
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already a
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cast pattern.
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We can see that it's going to be difficult to be or even if it becomes more of
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a cast
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pattern it's never a loading pattern which is part of what's required to have
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the proper
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angle of attack and hit a driver well.
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So we can see that yes the lower body does get a little bit slower but you can
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see for
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all intended purposes most of the swing doesn't really change.
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In fact if we compare this as his driver this is his wedge we can see that the
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lower body
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actually has better sequencing and starts earlier with the wedge than it did
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with the
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driver.
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So again this is an example of a golfer failing to make the changes between a
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driver and a
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wedge swing so this golfer is much better with hitting the short irons than he
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is with
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hitting the driver.
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Here's another golfer who has a pretty clear cast pattern and we can see the
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shift between
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these two you can see that the overall pattern looks about the same.
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The scale is just a little different so the graph is kind of jumping around but
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you can
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see that the pattern between the two is pretty close to the same.
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One last example we've got driver here and wedge here you can see that if
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anything this
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golfer actually struggles with having more of a load pattern with the wedge
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here than
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he does with the driver.
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So he has more of a cast pattern with the driver than he does with the wedge
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but the
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wedge he actually demonstrates more of the downswing loading pattern.
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So this 10 handy cap tends to struggle a little bit more with wedge consistency
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contact.
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Okay so we saw that pros made these adjustments to their patterns where am
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ateurs typically
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kept the same pattern or in one case actually reversed the pattern in the wrong
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direction.
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So looking back at our hypotheses we can rule out that the swings are identical
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or at least
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I'm willing to rule out that the swings are identical and that it's a just ball
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position.
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I think we've built some support for the case that it's a total body versus an
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upper body
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move and I think we've built some case for the speed versus precision argument
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but we
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haven't done much to address some of the other goals like the angle of attack
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or the
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axis tilt or a sweet verse strike.
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So that's what we'll look at next when we talk more about these positions.
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Now this image up here is the same golfer hitting a full swing with a sand
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wedge on
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the right and a driver on the left.
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Now we can see that there are some different looks to these movements.
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We can see that the upper body is a little bit more on top of the lower body
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there's
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differences in the extension or the width between the upper body and the hands
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and we
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can see that there's differences in the arm straightening.
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Now again I'm not here to tell you that these need to be intentional
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differences but I am
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going to show you the data that shows that you do need to make some adjustments
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if you're
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going to have success with both clubs.
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What I found looking at the general trends is that there is a big difference in
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the sway
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pattern.
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So the sway is the movement of the upper body or the lower body either towards
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the target
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or away from the target.
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So it's not just a bad thing like a sway in the backswing it's just the term we
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use
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for the linear movement of the body in that plane.
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The general pattern was the the irons were more stacked and the driver had more
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of a tilt
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away from the target.
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Most golfers adjusted the thorax while keeping the lower body the same but
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about or a small
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percentage adjusted the pelvis while keeping the upper body the same and a
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handful of them
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changed both.
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But it was about two thirds of the golfers who kept the lower body or the pel
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vis pretty
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consistent and made mostly adjustment with the thorax.
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There was a difference in both the lift and the thrust pattern but they aren't
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as significant
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so we're not going to look at them in this video.
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Okay so this golfer is that typical pattern that adjusts the thorax.
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This graph is now looking at the pelvis, sway is thrust and lifts.
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The pelvis sway is the main graph we're going to look at which is the red line.
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So the red line is looking at the linear movement of the pelvis towards or away
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from
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the target.
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When it goes negative it's swaying off the ball or it's moving away from the
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target
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when it goes positive it is swaying towards the target.
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So this golfer had a little bit of a weight shift during takeaway and then more
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of a centered
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pivot and then shifted towards the target and the downswing and kind of slid on
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the
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way through.
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If you look down at the bottom of the screen, bottom left you can see the
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amount of sway
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at impact.
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So I have all these graphs kind of frozen at that point in time.
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So between setup and impact the golfer shifted 5.4 inches closer to the target
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for the driver.
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Now with an eight iron the golfer shifted 5.1 inches so it was a little bit
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less but
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pretty close and if I toggle back and forth you can see the overall pattern for
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the red
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is pretty consistent, pretty similar between these two.
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Now if we look at the upper body it's the same graph so we're looking at the
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red line
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which is the thorax sway and we'll see a little bit of a shift during off the
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ball during
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the takeaway and then a little bit of a shift towards the target during the
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early part of
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the downswing and then once they've done that little shift towards the target
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you'll
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see with the driver there's a pretty significant movement away from the target.
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I refer to that movement as part of the bracing strategy or how they use their
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body to help
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stabilize and get in the position to deliver the arms in the right way.
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So this golfer shifted about two and a half inches towards the target and then
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by the
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end of their release so roughly when the club's about parallel they're about 1.
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5 inches away
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from wherever they started but you can see that between those two there's a
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pretty consistent
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movement away from the target.
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Now here we have that same golfer with an iron and we saw that the pelvis was
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about the
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same we can see that the pattern, the shape of the red line between these two
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looks pretty
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similar but we can see that some of the magnitudes are different so this golfer
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had about the
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same shift towards the target during transition that movement helps create the
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pressure in
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the lead foot and then during the release we can see that this golfer didn't
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shift nearly
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as much off the ball, in fact or sorry away from the target, not off the ball.
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So this golfer shifted towards the target and then when they made contact they
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're about
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1.6 inches closer to the target than where they started.
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So because we're comparing where they started if a golfer sets up with more
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tilt and gets
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more behind the ball with a driver and then sets up more stacked with an iron
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we're going
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to tend to see even with that the upper body is going to get more in front of
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where they
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started with the iron where with the driver they're going to work their way
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more behind
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where they started.
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So even though they're starting further away they still work more behind with
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the driver.
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But this golfer if we toggle back and forth we can see the differences even
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though the
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pattern looks similar we can see that this golfer is not shifting their upper
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body nearly
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as far away from the target during the release and that creates the difference
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in the axis
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tilt.
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So this golfer had the pelvis move about the same amount but there was a little
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over a
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one inch difference in where the position of the upper body was and that helped
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create
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the axis tilt different for the driver compared to the short iron.
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Now here's a second golfer looking at another one of the classic patterns of
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more of the
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thorax adjusters.
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So this golfer actually shifted their lower body 3.7 inches with both the
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driver and the
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iron driver and nine iron you can see very little difference in the pattern of
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the red
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line.
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There's a little difference in the pattern of the blue line and green line but
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we're
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primarily looking at the red line for this section.
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So now we can go back and forth between the driver and the iron and we can see
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again
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that similar shift so while they shifted about the same amount towards the
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target to help
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apply the pressure into the lead foot we can see during the release with the
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driver this
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golfer works about two and a half inches or a total of about four or five
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inches away
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from the target from the maximum point there to the maximum point there and at
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impact it's
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about half an inch further away than where he started with the driver and then
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with an
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iron we can see that he goes from about a little less than two and a half to
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right
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around zero so he has about half the amount of shift away from the target even
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though the
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pelvis was in exactly the same position so you can see the general slope change
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as well
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as the magnitude change.
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Here's one more thorax adjuster because it's the more dominant pattern I wanted
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to show
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a few examples.
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So this golfer shifted seven point one inches towards the target with the
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driver seven inches
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with the eight iron and again you can see a pretty consistent pattern or
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similar looking
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graphs between these two that's clearly the same golfer.
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Now if we look at the adjustment of the upper body we can see that there's a
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pretty big
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difference between the upper body.
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Now this golfer doesn't get quite as far away from the golf ball so this golfer
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is
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probably going to or sorry away from the target this golfer is probably going
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to have more
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of a downward angle of attack because his upper body is still two point one
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inches closer
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than where it started he doesn't really have a big shift away from the target
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but with
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the iron you can see that it's less so you can see that this is a more of a
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gradual slope
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it's not quite as sharp and you can see that he finishes two and a half inches
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closer you
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know his lowest peak is two and a half inches closer than where he started so
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that upper
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body is definitely shifting more towards the target with the iron than he was
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with the
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driver while the blue and the green stay somewhat consistent.
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Now there was a small subset of golfers who tended to adjust the pelvis instead
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of the
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upper body so that looks more like this.
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With the driver this golfer if I just showed you these two without us looking
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at the scale
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you would say that that's pretty close to the same pattern but if we look at
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the values
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we can see that in the bottom left hand corner with the driver he's shifted
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nine inches towards
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the target with the pitching wedge he's only shifted 6.3 inches towards the
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target so about
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a three inch difference between where his lower body was compared to the start
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position.
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So now what we'll see by looking at his upper body is we can see that the upper
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body graphs
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tend to have a more consistent pattern so he only had a shift of a difference
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of about
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point eight inches so the difference between his lower body and his upper body
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still increased
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about two inches based on the difference between the driver and the iron but he
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did it more
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by increasing the lower body not by moving the upper body back and that two
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inch the the
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average in the database was about two point one inches of additional shift.
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So now here's the smallest subset was more of the adjuster of both so neither
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of them
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is going to stay the same they're going to change kind of different amounts in
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order
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to create that two inch difference between the upper body or the two inch
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greater difference
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between the upper body and the lower body for their own pattern.
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So here we've got golfer going six point four inches with the driver and then
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five point
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eight inches with the iron and then with the upper body we can see a similar
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looking pattern
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but his upper body moves about point six inches closer to the target with the
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iron than it
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did with the driver.
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So he had a little bit of shift from lower body and a little bit of shift from
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the upper
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body and that combo gives him the access tilt that he's looking for.
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In general there's a pretty big difference in the pattern when we compare the
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two ends
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of the spectrum when we're looking at this axis still or we're looking at this
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way those
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irons there tend to be more stacked so you know just a couple inch difference
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whether
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it's two to four or something like that difference between the upper body and
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the lower body but
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with the driver you'll see a much greater difference especially if you look at
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the maximum difference
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such as at the end of their release it can be somewhere in the you know five
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six even
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up to eight inch difference between the upper body and the lower body.
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So if your upper body is directly on top of your lower body you're probably
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going to
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struggle with the driver.
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So what about amateurs if we look at them we're going to tend to see a little
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bit of
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change right similar to what we saw with the kinematic sequence.
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So here's a amateur golfer who's wedge swing so the driver swing he had an
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extra inch of
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shift towards the target so it went 4.8 to 3.8 but we can see over all the
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patterns kind
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of about the same.
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So that'd be fine we're expecting to see a little bit more shift away from the
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target
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with the with the iron than we do with the driver and we can see that there's a
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little
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bit of a shift but again these two are also very close four inch shift with the
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driver
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so we were expecting to see that actually be less than the wedge he shifted
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more than
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the wedge so the actual difference between the axis tilt stayed about the same
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because
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he he gained some with the pelvis but then he lost some based on the pelvis and
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thorax.
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So both shifted but the difference was pretty much the same on that case.
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Now we've got another golfer who we can see has a about a one inch difference
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between
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where the pelvis is and then if we jump to the lower body this is the driver
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and then
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this is the wedge we can see one point five inch difference but the driver is
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actually
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more ahead or closer to the target than the wedge so he negates what he gains
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with the
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pelvis again it ends up being about the same relationship and that's a very
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consistent
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pattern that you'll see with kind of the mid handicap level where whatever that
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axis
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tilt relationship is with one swing they'll typically have that with all of
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their full
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swings.
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So amateurs frequently retain those similar axis tilt relationships and that
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typically
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causes a problem at one end of the spectrum or the other.
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Back to our hypotheses we know that there's some differences but we're starting
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to confirm
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what a lot of the coaches thought the one piece that I couldn't really confirm
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was standing
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further away from the golf ball and that's just not measured on the 3D system
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but the
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good news is pros were or coaches were kind of looking in the right areas and
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the data
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is supporting the difference in the patterns of the load versus the cast and
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the more axis
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tilt versus less axis tilt so amateurs really just need to learn to adjust a
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few key parameters
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in order to have success throughout the bag.
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Now let's look at one thing that was not mentioned by the coaches but that I
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think is incredibly
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useful which is looking at the amount of supination because the what the body
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does and what happens
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in the load pattern is typically going to affect what happens in the release
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and vice versa.
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So what we're going to look at is just one simple parameter we're going to look
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at the
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blue line.
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The blue line is looking at pronation supination when it is negative it's pron
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ating and when
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it's positive it is supinating.
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So what we'll see here is the golfer with the left wrist is going to have some
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pronation
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and reach maximum value somewhere in mid downswing and then supinate during the
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entire release.
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Now what's interesting is you'll see a similar pattern but the supination value
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will tend
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to be increased on the driver swing.
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So he's going to get into a more of a supinated position by the end of the
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release when he
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gets up here compared to what he does with the wedge.
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So here's another example and we can look at the actual numbers.
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So somewhere down here you know whether that's 60 just below 56 we can see he
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gets close
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to 70 degrees of supination by the end of the release.
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Now if we look at the wedge swing we'll see a little bit less or pretty close
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to the same
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amount of pronation during the downswing but we'll see significantly less sup
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ination
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on the way through.
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One of the interesting ones that I saw looking at the amateurs was this golfer
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who actually
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had more supination with his wedge swing than he does with the driver swing.
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This is also the golfer who tended to have more of a cast pattern with the
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driver than
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he had with the wedge.
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So what you'll see is the more that you load those risks by using good
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sequencing, good
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proximal to distal loading patterns you'll tend to see more of this supination
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value
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increase with the release.
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So this golfer gets close to 80 degrees supination on the way through with the
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driver close to
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60 degrees.
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This relates to a lot of the arm tension that amateurs describe.
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When they feel like they're bracing or they're squeezing their forms to help
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control the club
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face on the way through or to start bending their arms like they're getting
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into a chicken
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wing pattern those will tend to diminish the amount of supination on the way
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through.
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So that was just a quick little point that I think gets overlooked when talking
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about
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the differences between the iron and the driver.
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But there are definitely some differences between the amount of supination in
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the driver and
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the iron swing if it's going to look the same on video.
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I'll show you what I mean.
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So we're going to get into some case studies.
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We're going to look at some 2D examples so that you'll be able to relate what
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you're
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seeing on these graphs to what actually happens with 2D video, the way most of
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us are used
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to looking at it.
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So the coaching keys would be looking at the access tilt, the power source, the
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release
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style and something that I don't have data for but has worked very well for me
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which
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is looking at club height to ground.
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Now in this presentation we're going to look at a couple of different key
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concepts.
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So the follow away from the target or the access tilt movement when we look at
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the driver's
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case study and with the iron we're going to look at a little bit of low point
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training.
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So here is a single lesson before and after.
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This is looking at a case study looking at the amount of tilt.
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So this golfer we had been working together for a few lessons already mostly
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working
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on the release and I'll show you what we did during this lesson to get the
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changes
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to go from this over here on the left, this amount of extension to this over
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here on the
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right.
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So here's the initial swing.
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This was one of his swings during warm up and you can see those arms bending on
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the way
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through.
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Now here he is during warm up with an iron and he described having some good
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success
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with his iron consistency and most of the pros who I showed this to at the
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World Golf
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00:31:43.460 --> 00:31:46.300
Fitness Summit agreed that this looks better.
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He's got more arm extension, there's still a little bit of maybe a scoopish
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00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:51.500
pattern but
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00:31:51.500 --> 00:31:54.220
he's got much better arm extension on the way through.
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00:31:54.220 --> 00:31:58.410
It looks like he's doing something different with the driver than the iron but
661
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now from
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looking at the data perhaps you'll understand that he's actually doing closer
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00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:03.580
to the same
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thing with the driver and the iron and that's why it looks different.
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00:32:09.140 --> 00:32:13.760
So I wanted him to understand the difference in the relationship of the axis
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tilt.
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00:32:14.340 --> 00:32:19.060
So I gave him a drill that we have on the site to help him feel pushing into
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that front
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leg while those arms extend past his body and making sure that his upper body
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00:32:26.010 --> 00:32:26.900
fell away
671
00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:31.520
from the target a little bit helping to create that improved axis tilt.
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00:32:31.520 --> 00:32:36.270
So we discussed it and he did this drill took about three minutes in between
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that first
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00:32:36.980 --> 00:32:40.380
swing and what you're going to see right here.
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00:32:40.380 --> 00:32:43.960
So this was the very next swing after doing his drill and understanding the
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concept better
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00:32:45.860 --> 00:32:50.370
and he was able to increase his launch angle and pick up about 30 yards but the
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00:32:50.370 --> 00:32:51.020
big thing
679
00:32:51.020 --> 00:32:56.780
was he was able to control his trajectory in the amount of curve.
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00:32:56.780 --> 00:33:02.550
He was no longer afraid of the smother hook after practicing it for the rest of
681
00:33:02.550 --> 00:33:05.820
the session.
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00:33:05.820 --> 00:33:11.280
Okay, so he had been working on the supination and we added the axis tilt and
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the difference
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between the two.
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00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:20.100
Now his iron swing and his driver's swing the release looks very similar but
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the important
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00:33:21.300 --> 00:33:24.420
thing is it looks similar because he's now doing different things.
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If you were to now use some of this information that you've been presented with
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take a look
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00:33:30.060 --> 00:33:33.750
at the location of his upper body compared to either the golf ball or compared
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to the
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00:33:34.140 --> 00:33:38.090
pelvis and you can see that they're pretty much on top of each other just a
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00:33:38.090 --> 00:33:38.820
slight tilt
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00:33:38.820 --> 00:33:39.820
away.
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00:33:39.820 --> 00:33:43.840
Now over here with the driver we can or with the afterversion we can see that
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that right
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00:33:44.540 --> 00:33:49.040
shoulder is well behind the golf ball the chest is behind kind of his right hip
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00:33:49.040 --> 00:33:49.300
.
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00:33:49.300 --> 00:33:54.260
He's got a lot more axis tilt which helps produce more of this flat bottom to
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00:33:54.260 --> 00:33:55.060
the swing.
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00:33:55.060 --> 00:33:59.570
Now we have a golfer demonstrating some low point control so this golfer was
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00:33:59.570 --> 00:34:00.260
struggling
703
00:34:00.260 --> 00:34:04.420
more with iron consistency was driving the ball great.
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00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:10.660
So what you'll see here I'll let this play a couple times is you'll see the
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00:34:10.660 --> 00:34:11.940
club working
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00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:15.580
up quickly after impact.
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00:34:15.580 --> 00:34:20.730
Now I had him in slow motion show me the release that he was training and you
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00:34:20.730 --> 00:34:22.460
can see that
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00:34:22.460 --> 00:34:28.290
the low points pretty much in the middle of his stance and then starting to
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00:34:28.290 --> 00:34:29.180
work up very
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00:34:29.180 --> 00:34:35.500
quickly right through impact and you can also see that the club face is tending
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to stay open.
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00:34:37.160 --> 00:34:42.740
We've addressed all those issues with a cluster of drills and I'll show you
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here in a second.
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00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:47.860
Now if you're not used to seeing that drill of just like a slow motion release
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00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:48.060
here's
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00:34:48.060 --> 00:34:55.110
a student who has more of a iron base wing demonstrating kind of the same thing
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and what
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00:34:55.700 --> 00:35:00.770
you'll we're doing the same drill I should say and what you'll see is that his
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tendency
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is to have the club working much more high to low where the golfer previously
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00:35:06.140 --> 00:35:06.900
was having
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00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:10.500
much more low to high.
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00:35:10.500 --> 00:35:15.820
So now after doing a drill called nine to low point that we use on the site he
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was working
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00:35:16.540 --> 00:35:20.100
on getting without letting his upper body lunge that's why he had the stick
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00:35:20.100 --> 00:35:20.620
here he was
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00:35:20.620 --> 00:35:25.220
working on getting the club to bottom out more in front of the golf ball.
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00:35:25.220 --> 00:35:29.630
So now what you'll tend to see is a little bit more neutral pattern where the
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00:35:29.630 --> 00:35:30.180
club is
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00:35:30.180 --> 00:35:34.660
coming down through contact and then working up on the way through.
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00:35:34.660 --> 00:35:38.730
But you'll see that after impact the club is lower to the ground with that arm
733
00:35:38.730 --> 00:35:39.420
extension
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it's less of a club working up pattern.
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00:35:44.180 --> 00:35:52.370
So here we've got both versions we'll try to get them about even after impact
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you can
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00:35:53.220 --> 00:35:56.710
see this is a little bit more of that driver base movement where the club is
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00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:57.280
coming up
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00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.580
pretty quickly this is more of the iron base movement where he's got a little
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00:36:00.580 --> 00:36:01.140
bit better
741
00:36:01.140 --> 00:36:04.820
access tilt and that club working more down.
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00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:09.720
So it doesn't have to look perfectly but if you make some smart adjustments to
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your pattern
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00:36:11.060 --> 00:36:15.460
you can make progress with either the iron or the driver.
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00:36:15.460 --> 00:36:21.320
The next goal is then to train going back and forth between those two shots so
746
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that
747
00:36:21.780 --> 00:36:26.140
you have a better success rate of being able to pull it off on the course.
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If you struggle with one area of the other I would tend to suggest with the
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00:36:30.680 --> 00:36:31.420
driver you
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00:36:31.420 --> 00:36:35.940
would want to focus on access tilt the club path as well as the face-to-path
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00:36:35.940 --> 00:36:37.040
relationship.
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00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:41.560
I use a number of drills on the website frequently to help people with these
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00:36:41.560 --> 00:36:42.500
concepts mostly
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00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:46.290
revolving around how the lower body works since it's more of a total body
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00:36:46.290 --> 00:36:47.060
activity and
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00:36:47.060 --> 00:36:51.440
how to create the proper access tilt as well as how to release the club with a
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00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:52.060
little bit
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00:36:52.060 --> 00:36:55.780
more supination to support more of that loading pattern.
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00:36:55.780 --> 00:36:59.920
With iron consistency I'm typically working on more low point control or face-
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00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:00.580
to-target
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00:37:00.580 --> 00:37:05.800
relationship so things such as the open right hand or getting a little bit more
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00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:06.500
access tilt
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00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:10.000
and learning where the upper body should be in space and potentially tempo
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drills work
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00:37:10.660 --> 00:37:14.940
really well for this particular problem but one of the goal standards I go for
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with low
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point control is the arm extension timing and direction which I have a number
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of different
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videos to help support.
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If you enjoyed this presentation and getting into a little bit more of the
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details of
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00:37:25.900 --> 00:37:31.180
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of share all the
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thoughts of what I learn from doing classes and what I come up with when
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working with
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my students and what I learn from other instructors so it's kind of my drop box
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for all the different
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swing ideas to help amateur golfers and those do-it-yourself style golfers as
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well as golf
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coaches.
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I've got an upcoming book called the stock tour swing which should be around
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either
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by the end of the year or early in 2017 and I'm working on a coaches
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certification but
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if you have any questions about anything presented in this webinar or anything
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else please don't
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hesitate to contact me Tyler at Golfsmart Academy or you can submit a question
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through
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the site.
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Thank you for taking a look at my presentation from the World Golf Fitness
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Summit 2016 on
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driver versus iron differences.
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Hi, I'm Tyler Farrell with Golf Smart Academy.
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This webinar, I'm going to present the presentation that I gave at the World
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Golf Fitness Summit
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in October of 2016 in New Orleans.
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The topic is looking at the 3D differences between the driver and the iron
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swing.
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Basically addressing the question, is there one swing that you can use
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throughout the
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bag or do you need to make adjustments to your swing other than just setup when
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you're
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going from, say, a driver to a short iron?
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Now in this presentation, I'm going to break it down into two different parts.
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In the first part, we're going to look at a bunch of 3D graphs.
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So if you're a golf coach or just a 3D golf nerd and you want to see some of
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the data
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behind the concepts that I tend to teach, I'm going to present that for about
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15 minutes
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or so.
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If you want to just jump to the end, you know, if you're not really into the 3D
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space and
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you really just want to jump to the end and see some of the before and afters
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and look
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at more 2D video practical applications, I think that that's fine.
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I'll put a little link here where you can jump right to when we start looking
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at golf
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swings instead of looking at 3D graphs.
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So I'll show you how understanding some of the differences between driver and
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iron can
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help you make changes.
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So this was one individual lesson who basically by understanding a different
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pivot concept
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was able to completely change his release and ball flight.
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And then I have another example where we'll go through a golfer who was driving
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the ball
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really well but struggling with his iron play.
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Because what I've noticed with both my students as well as myself is it's rare
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that you have
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the best driver day and the best iron day on the same day.
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So in this, the rest of this presentation, we're going to take a look at why
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that might
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be the case.
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Before I get into the data, I interviewed a number of coaches trying to figure
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out what
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they thought might be the difference between the driver swing and the iron
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swing.
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Now some coaches continue to stress that there's no difference, it's just set
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up.
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But many golf instructors focus on the access tilt or the position of the body
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and what
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changes during the swing with a driver and during an iron.
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Other coaches tend to focus more on what the goals are.
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So with a driver, you're trying to hit for angles and you're trying to maximize
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distance
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where with an iron, you're trying to strike it solidly and control trajectory
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and proximity
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to the hole.
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Now a few biomechanists described the driver swing as more of a total body
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activity while
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the iron swing is more of an upper body activity.
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Let's look at the data and see which ones of these hypotheses the data supports
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So before we jump into the data, I want to give a big thank you to Johnson-Cl
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aire for
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providing some of these tour pro folders.
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I have a lot of driver swings, but he was able to share 31 different tour pro
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folders
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which had driver, five iron, a short iron, whether it was eight iron through
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wedge as
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well as a 30 yard pitch shot.
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So I was able to analyze some of these patterns and see if it was more of a
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spectrum or see
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if they were the same or where it changed and come up with some theories as to
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why.
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So the first section, we're going to go over the kinematic sequence, some
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positional changes
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between the upper and lower body and then some movements during the release
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specifically
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looking at supination.
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Again in the second half of this presentation, you can just jump ahead and see
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some case studies
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of how we apply this 3D data because I don't necessarily think every golfer out
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there needs
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to understand the 3D data, but if you're a coach, it can be really helpful for
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helping
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you think about the movement patterns in a more specific way.
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So my goal is to present you with the data and visuals and let you come up with
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ways
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that you can teach it.
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I'm not here to say that there's one perfect way to adjust the swing just
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because the graphs
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are a little bit different, but I want to get your brain thinking about the
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actual differences
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between the two and hopefully you can come up with some creative ways to get
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your students
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to make these changes and make it feel as seamless or athletic as possible.
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Now we know that the angle of attack tends to change throughout the bag.
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We know that with the short iron it's going to be somewhat down and with the
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driver it's
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going to be flat or even up.
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Hopefully up if you're trying to maximize distance.
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One of the questions is that we've kind of struggled with is is this purely a
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setup change,
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purely a equipment change or is there an intentional change to how the golfer
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is trying
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to swing the club.
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Hopefully the 3D data will shed a little light on which of these is the case.
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Now with the 3D data I took a look at a number of different parameters, but in
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this presentation
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because I was limited to 45 minutes I focused on the kinematic sequence changes
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, the axis
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tilt changes which would be we'll look at the differences in the sway graphs
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and then
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the lead wrist looking at supination.
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But as you can see if you want to pause this slide you can see that there were
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changes
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in what the body did, in how the club worked, as well as in the arms and the
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legs and if
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you have a good data set you can take a look at some of these patterns as well
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and see
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if your data matches the data that I was looking at.
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So the general change in the kinematic sequence, if you've looked at 3D and you
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've seen some
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of these 3D graphs you may be familiar with the two on screen.
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We have kind of the standard or classic full swing kinematic sequence and then
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we have
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the standard or classic 30 yard wedge shot.
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The 30 yard wedge shot has more of a fanning pattern, more of a cast pattern
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where the club
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is moving faster than the arm, arm moving faster than the torso, the torso
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moving faster
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than the pelvis even though the transition sequence is the same.
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of a lower body
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moving faster than the upper body, upper body moving faster than the arm, arm
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moving faster
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than the club to help maximize the speed gains and to potentially help with a
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little
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bit of the path requirements for the driver.
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full swing
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should look like the top graph and then once you get to these half shots it
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switches or
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is it more of a spectrum?
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that pattern.
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Is it more of a switch or is it more of a spectrum?
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The general trend with the kinematic sequence was that the driver swing was
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more of a loading
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pattern and then the wedge swing was more of a cast pattern so we'll look at a
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number
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of different examples so you can visualize what I'm talking about but while
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each individual
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golfer kept a little bit of their own signature and their own pattern, you'll
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see from looking
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at these graphs that tour pros do make some subtle shifts to how they're
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applying energy
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and how they are swinging the golf club within full swings, whether it's a
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short iron like
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an eight iron iron wedge or a full swing with the driver, it is not exactly the
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same pattern.
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What was interesting was tour pros pretty consistently made these changes to
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their swings
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where amateurs usually made the same swing with every club in their bag and
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tended to
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struggle with one end or the other depending on which end their pattern better
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matched.
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So here's how we're going to look at these graphs.
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I'm going to put up the driver and the iron version and then we're going to
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eyeball some
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of these differences.
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I'm not going to throw a ton of numbers at you, we're just going to look at the
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general
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movement patterns.
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timeline of the
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golf swing so we have a dress, top of the swing, impact finish.
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So this is all backswing, right here is downswing and then between these two
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lines is the follow
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through, when a line is negative it's rotating away from the target, when it's
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positive
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it's rotating towards the target.
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, the blue
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line is the left arm or lead arm and then the brown line is the club.
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went from
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a negative to positive change direction here, clearly before the upper body
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then the upper
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body before the arm before the club and you can see that the red line is above
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for part
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of the downswing, the blue line is above for part of the downswing, that's more
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of a
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loading pattern.
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the red and
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the green kind of change direction together and the red is underneath the other
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for the entire downswing.
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other, if
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I kind of toggle back and forth, you can see the general shift of being less of
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a load
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and more of a cast when we get to the wedge.
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hip change.
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So we can see the red line being well above the green line and kind of going
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first and
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faster and then if we shift we can see that the red line is now kind of in with
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going
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at about the same speed as the other parts of the body, kind of like so.
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Here's another example of a golfer who makes adjustments to both the hips and
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trunks.
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that that red
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line goes from leading the early part of the downswing to now just kind of
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supporting.
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Okay, so we see that the tour pros tend to use a similar pattern throughout the
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bag but
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it's more of a cast.
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often than
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not they struggle with the driver.
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already a
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cast pattern.
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a cast
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pattern it's never a loading pattern which is part of what's required to have
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the proper
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angle of attack and hit a driver well.
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see for
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all intended purposes most of the swing doesn't really change.
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lower body
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actually has better sequencing and starts earlier with the wedge than it did
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with the
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driver.
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So again this is an example of a golfer failing to make the changes between a
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driver and a
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wedge swing so this golfer is much better with hitting the short irons than he
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is with
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hitting the driver.
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Here's another golfer who has a pretty clear cast pattern and we can see the
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shift between
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these two you can see that the overall pattern looks about the same.
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The scale is just a little different so the graph is kind of jumping around but
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you can
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see that the pattern between the two is pretty close to the same.
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One last example we've got driver here and wedge here you can see that if
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anything this
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golfer actually struggles with having more of a load pattern with the wedge
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here than
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he does with the driver.
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So he has more of a cast pattern with the driver than he does with the wedge
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but the
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wedge he actually demonstrates more of the downswing loading pattern.
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So this 10 handy cap tends to struggle a little bit more with wedge consistency
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contact.
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Okay so we saw that pros made these adjustments to their patterns where am
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ateurs typically
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kept the same pattern or in one case actually reversed the pattern in the wrong
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direction.
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So looking back at our hypotheses we can rule out that the swings are identical
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or at least
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I'm willing to rule out that the swings are identical and that it's a just ball
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position.
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I think we've built some support for the case that it's a total body versus an
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upper body
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move and I think we've built some case for the speed versus precision argument
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but we
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haven't done much to address some of the other goals like the angle of attack
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or the
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axis tilt or a sweet verse strike.
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So that's what we'll look at next when we talk more about these positions.
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Now this image up here is the same golfer hitting a full swing with a sand
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wedge on
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the right and a driver on the left.
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Now we can see that there are some different looks to these movements.
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We can see that the upper body is a little bit more on top of the lower body
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there's
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differences in the extension or the width between the upper body and the hands
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and we
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can see that there's differences in the arm straightening.
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Now again I'm not here to tell you that these need to be intentional
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differences but I am
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going to show you the data that shows that you do need to make some adjustments
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if you're
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going to have success with both clubs.
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What I found looking at the general trends is that there is a big difference in
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the sway
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pattern.
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So the sway is the movement of the upper body or the lower body either towards
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the target
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or away from the target.
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So it's not just a bad thing like a sway in the backswing it's just the term we
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use
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for the linear movement of the body in that plane.
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The general pattern was the the irons were more stacked and the driver had more
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of a tilt
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away from the target.
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Most golfers adjusted the thorax while keeping the lower body the same but
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about or a small
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percentage adjusted the pelvis while keeping the upper body the same and a
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handful of them
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changed both.
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But it was about two thirds of the golfers who kept the lower body or the pel
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vis pretty
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consistent and made mostly adjustment with the thorax.
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There was a difference in both the lift and the thrust pattern but they aren't
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as significant
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so we're not going to look at them in this video.
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Okay so this golfer is that typical pattern that adjusts the thorax.
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This graph is now looking at the pelvis, sway is thrust and lifts.
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The pelvis sway is the main graph we're going to look at which is the red line.
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So the red line is looking at the linear movement of the pelvis towards or away
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from
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the target.
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When it goes negative it's swaying off the ball or it's moving away from the
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target
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when it goes positive it is swaying towards the target.
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So this golfer had a little bit of a weight shift during takeaway and then more
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of a centered
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pivot and then shifted towards the target and the downswing and kind of slid on
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the
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way through.
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If you look down at the bottom of the screen, bottom left you can see the
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amount of sway
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at impact.
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So I have all these graphs kind of frozen at that point in time.
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So between setup and impact the golfer shifted 5.4 inches closer to the target
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for the driver.
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Now with an eight iron the golfer shifted 5.1 inches so it was a little bit
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less but
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pretty close and if I toggle back and forth you can see the overall pattern for
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the red
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is pretty consistent, pretty similar between these two.
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Now if we look at the upper body it's the same graph so we're looking at the
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red line
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which is the thorax sway and we'll see a little bit of a shift during off the
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ball during
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the takeaway and then a little bit of a shift towards the target during the
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early part of
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the downswing and then once they've done that little shift towards the target
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you'll
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see with the driver there's a pretty significant movement away from the target.
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I refer to that movement as part of the bracing strategy or how they use their
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body to help
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stabilize and get in the position to deliver the arms in the right way.
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So this golfer shifted about two and a half inches towards the target and then
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by the
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end of their release so roughly when the club's about parallel they're about 1.
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5 inches away
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from wherever they started but you can see that between those two there's a
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pretty consistent
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movement away from the target.
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Now here we have that same golfer with an iron and we saw that the pelvis was
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about the
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same we can see that the pattern, the shape of the red line between these two
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looks pretty
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similar but we can see that some of the magnitudes are different so this golfer
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had about the
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same shift towards the target during transition that movement helps create the
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pressure in
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the lead foot and then during the release we can see that this golfer didn't
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shift nearly
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as much off the ball, in fact or sorry away from the target, not off the ball.
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So this golfer shifted towards the target and then when they made contact they
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're about
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1.6 inches closer to the target than where they started.
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So because we're comparing where they started if a golfer sets up with more
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tilt and gets
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more behind the ball with a driver and then sets up more stacked with an iron
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we're going
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to tend to see even with that the upper body is going to get more in front of
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where they
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started with the iron where with the driver they're going to work their way
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more behind
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where they started.
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So even though they're starting further away they still work more behind with
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the driver.
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But this golfer if we toggle back and forth we can see the differences even
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though the
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pattern looks similar we can see that this golfer is not shifting their upper
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body nearly
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as far away from the target during the release and that creates the difference
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in the axis
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tilt.
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So this golfer had the pelvis move about the same amount but there was a little
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over a
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one inch difference in where the position of the upper body was and that helped
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create
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the axis tilt different for the driver compared to the short iron.
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Now here's a second golfer looking at another one of the classic patterns of
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more of the
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thorax adjusters.
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So this golfer actually shifted their lower body 3.7 inches with both the
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driver and the
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iron driver and nine iron you can see very little difference in the pattern of
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the red
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line.
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There's a little difference in the pattern of the blue line and green line but
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we're
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primarily looking at the red line for this section.
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So now we can go back and forth between the driver and the iron and we can see
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again
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that similar shift so while they shifted about the same amount towards the
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target to help
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apply the pressure into the lead foot we can see during the release with the
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driver this
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golfer works about two and a half inches or a total of about four or five
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inches away
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from the target from the maximum point there to the maximum point there and at
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impact it's
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about half an inch further away than where he started with the driver and then
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with an
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iron we can see that he goes from about a little less than two and a half to
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right
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around zero so he has about half the amount of shift away from the target even
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though the
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pelvis was in exactly the same position so you can see the general slope change
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as well
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as the magnitude change.
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Here's one more thorax adjuster because it's the more dominant pattern I wanted
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to show
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a few examples.
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So this golfer shifted seven point one inches towards the target with the
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driver seven inches
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with the eight iron and again you can see a pretty consistent pattern or
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similar looking
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graphs between these two that's clearly the same golfer.
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Now if we look at the adjustment of the upper body we can see that there's a
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pretty big
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difference between the upper body.
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Now this golfer doesn't get quite as far away from the golf ball so this golfer
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is
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probably going to or sorry away from the target this golfer is probably going
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to have more
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of a downward angle of attack because his upper body is still two point one
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inches closer
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than where it started he doesn't really have a big shift away from the target
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but with
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the iron you can see that it's less so you can see that this is a more of a
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gradual slope
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it's not quite as sharp and you can see that he finishes two and a half inches
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closer you
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know his lowest peak is two and a half inches closer than where he started so
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that upper
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body is definitely shifting more towards the target with the iron than he was
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with the
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driver while the blue and the green stay somewhat consistent.
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Now there was a small subset of golfers who tended to adjust the pelvis instead
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of the
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upper body so that looks more like this.
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With the driver this golfer if I just showed you these two without us looking
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at the scale
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you would say that that's pretty close to the same pattern but if we look at
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the values
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we can see that in the bottom left hand corner with the driver he's shifted
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nine inches towards
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the target with the pitching wedge he's only shifted 6.3 inches towards the
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target so about
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a three inch difference between where his lower body was compared to the start
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position.
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So now what we'll see by looking at his upper body is we can see that the upper
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body graphs
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tend to have a more consistent pattern so he only had a shift of a difference
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of about
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point eight inches so the difference between his lower body and his upper body
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still increased
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about two inches based on the difference between the driver and the iron but he
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did it more
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by increasing the lower body not by moving the upper body back and that two
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inch the the
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average in the database was about two point one inches of additional shift.
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So now here's the smallest subset was more of the adjuster of both so neither
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of them
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is going to stay the same they're going to change kind of different amounts in
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order
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to create that two inch difference between the upper body or the two inch
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greater difference
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between the upper body and the lower body for their own pattern.
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So here we've got golfer going six point four inches with the driver and then
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five point
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eight inches with the iron and then with the upper body we can see a similar
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looking pattern
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but his upper body moves about point six inches closer to the target with the
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iron than it
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did with the driver.
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So he had a little bit of shift from lower body and a little bit of shift from
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the upper
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body and that combo gives him the access tilt that he's looking for.
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In general there's a pretty big difference in the pattern when we compare the
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two ends
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of the spectrum when we're looking at this axis still or we're looking at this
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way those
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irons there tend to be more stacked so you know just a couple inch difference
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whether
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it's two to four or something like that difference between the upper body and
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the lower body but
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with the driver you'll see a much greater difference especially if you look at
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the maximum difference
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such as at the end of their release it can be somewhere in the you know five
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six even
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00:24:08.260 --> 00:24:11.900
up to eight inch difference between the upper body and the lower body.
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So if your upper body is directly on top of your lower body you're probably
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going to
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struggle with the driver.
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So what about amateurs if we look at them we're going to tend to see a little
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bit of
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change right similar to what we saw with the kinematic sequence.
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So here's a amateur golfer who's wedge swing so the driver swing he had an
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extra inch of
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shift towards the target so it went 4.8 to 3.8 but we can see over all the
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patterns kind
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of about the same.
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So that'd be fine we're expecting to see a little bit more shift away from the
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target
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with the with the iron than we do with the driver and we can see that there's a
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little
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bit of a shift but again these two are also very close four inch shift with the
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driver
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so we were expecting to see that actually be less than the wedge he shifted
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more than
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the wedge so the actual difference between the axis tilt stayed about the same
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because
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he he gained some with the pelvis but then he lost some based on the pelvis and
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thorax.
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So both shifted but the difference was pretty much the same on that case.
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Now we've got another golfer who we can see has a about a one inch difference
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between
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where the pelvis is and then if we jump to the lower body this is the driver
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and then
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this is the wedge we can see one point five inch difference but the driver is
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actually
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more ahead or closer to the target than the wedge so he negates what he gains
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with the
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pelvis again it ends up being about the same relationship and that's a very
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consistent
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00:25:54.700 --> 00:25:58.500
pattern that you'll see with kind of the mid handicap level where whatever that
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00:25:58.500 --> 00:25:58.820
axis
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00:25:58.820 --> 00:26:02.620
tilt relationship is with one swing they'll typically have that with all of
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their full
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swings.
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So amateurs frequently retain those similar axis tilt relationships and that
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typically
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causes a problem at one end of the spectrum or the other.
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Back to our hypotheses we know that there's some differences but we're starting
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to confirm
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what a lot of the coaches thought the one piece that I couldn't really confirm
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00:26:24.620 --> 00:26:25.220
was standing
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further away from the golf ball and that's just not measured on the 3D system
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but the
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good news is pros were or coaches were kind of looking in the right areas and
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00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:35.900
the data
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00:26:35.900 --> 00:26:42.470
is supporting the difference in the patterns of the load versus the cast and
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00:26:42.470 --> 00:26:43.500
the more axis
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00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:48.510
tilt versus less axis tilt so amateurs really just need to learn to adjust a
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few key parameters
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in order to have success throughout the bag.
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00:26:53.660 --> 00:26:57.680
Now let's look at one thing that was not mentioned by the coaches but that I
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think is incredibly
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useful which is looking at the amount of supination because the what the body
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00:27:04.390 --> 00:27:05.740
does and what happens
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00:27:05.740 --> 00:27:10.530
in the load pattern is typically going to affect what happens in the release
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00:27:10.530 --> 00:27:13.940
and vice versa.
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So what we're going to look at is just one simple parameter we're going to look
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at the
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blue line.
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The blue line is looking at pronation supination when it is negative it's pron
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ating and when
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it's positive it is supinating.
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00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:32.110
So what we'll see here is the golfer with the left wrist is going to have some
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pronation
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and reach maximum value somewhere in mid downswing and then supinate during the
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entire release.
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00:27:41.020 --> 00:27:47.780
Now what's interesting is you'll see a similar pattern but the supination value
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will tend
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to be increased on the driver swing.
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So he's going to get into a more of a supinated position by the end of the
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00:27:56.980 --> 00:27:58.020
release when he
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00:27:58.020 --> 00:28:03.820
gets up here compared to what he does with the wedge.
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00:28:03.820 --> 00:28:08.020
So here's another example and we can look at the actual numbers.
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So somewhere down here you know whether that's 60 just below 56 we can see he
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gets close
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00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:20.140
to 70 degrees of supination by the end of the release.
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Now if we look at the wedge swing we'll see a little bit less or pretty close
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00:28:25.770 --> 00:28:26.540
to the same
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00:28:26.540 --> 00:28:32.520
amount of pronation during the downswing but we'll see significantly less sup
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00:28:32.520 --> 00:28:33.260
ination
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00:28:33.260 --> 00:28:36.180
on the way through.
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One of the interesting ones that I saw looking at the amateurs was this golfer
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who actually
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00:28:41.340 --> 00:28:46.580
had more supination with his wedge swing than he does with the driver swing.
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00:28:46.580 --> 00:28:50.800
This is also the golfer who tended to have more of a cast pattern with the
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driver than
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he had with the wedge.
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So what you'll see is the more that you load those risks by using good
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00:29:00.670 --> 00:29:02.460
sequencing, good
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00:29:02.460 --> 00:29:07.540
proximal to distal loading patterns you'll tend to see more of this supination
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00:29:07.540 --> 00:29:08.040
value
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00:29:08.040 --> 00:29:10.700
increase with the release.
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00:29:10.700 --> 00:29:16.390
So this golfer gets close to 80 degrees supination on the way through with the
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00:29:16.390 --> 00:29:17.460
driver close to
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60 degrees.
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00:29:19.060 --> 00:29:25.780
This relates to a lot of the arm tension that amateurs describe.
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When they feel like they're bracing or they're squeezing their forms to help
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00:29:30.290 --> 00:29:31.300
control the club
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00:29:31.300 --> 00:29:33.900
face on the way through or to start bending their arms like they're getting
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00:29:33.900 --> 00:29:34.480
into a chicken
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00:29:34.480 --> 00:29:40.830
wing pattern those will tend to diminish the amount of supination on the way
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00:29:40.830 --> 00:29:41.940
through.
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00:29:41.940 --> 00:29:48.650
So that was just a quick little point that I think gets overlooked when talking
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about
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the differences between the iron and the driver.
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But there are definitely some differences between the amount of supination in
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00:29:56.800 --> 00:29:57.780
the driver and
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00:29:57.780 --> 00:30:01.060
the iron swing if it's going to look the same on video.
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I'll show you what I mean.
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00:30:04.580 --> 00:30:07.700
So we're going to get into some case studies.
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We're going to look at some 2D examples so that you'll be able to relate what
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00:30:12.490 --> 00:30:13.060
you're
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00:30:13.060 --> 00:30:20.740
seeing on these graphs to what actually happens with 2D video, the way most of
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00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:21.500
us are used
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00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:22.940
to looking at it.
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00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:27.050
So the coaching keys would be looking at the access tilt, the power source, the
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release
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00:30:27.580 --> 00:30:31.990
style and something that I don't have data for but has worked very well for me
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00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:32.380
which
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00:30:32.380 --> 00:30:35.260
is looking at club height to ground.
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00:30:35.260 --> 00:30:39.370
Now in this presentation we're going to look at a couple of different key
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00:30:39.370 --> 00:30:40.220
concepts.
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00:30:40.220 --> 00:30:45.300
So the follow away from the target or the access tilt movement when we look at
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the driver's
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00:30:46.980 --> 00:30:51.610
case study and with the iron we're going to look at a little bit of low point
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00:30:51.610 --> 00:30:52.540
training.
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00:30:52.540 --> 00:30:56.820
So here is a single lesson before and after.
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00:30:56.820 --> 00:31:02.180
This is looking at a case study looking at the amount of tilt.
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00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:07.300
So this golfer we had been working together for a few lessons already mostly
642
00:31:07.300 --> 00:31:07.980
working
643
00:31:07.980 --> 00:31:13.290
on the release and I'll show you what we did during this lesson to get the
644
00:31:13.290 --> 00:31:13.940
changes
645
00:31:13.940 --> 00:31:18.590
to go from this over here on the left, this amount of extension to this over
646
00:31:18.590 --> 00:31:19.260
here on the
647
00:31:19.260 --> 00:31:21.660
right.
648
00:31:21.660 --> 00:31:25.460
So here's the initial swing.
649
00:31:25.460 --> 00:31:30.140
This was one of his swings during warm up and you can see those arms bending on
650
00:31:30.140 --> 00:31:30.620
the way
651
00:31:30.620 --> 00:31:32.980
through.
652
00:31:32.980 --> 00:31:38.300
Now here he is during warm up with an iron and he described having some good
653
00:31:38.300 --> 00:31:39.020
success
654
00:31:39.020 --> 00:31:42.820
with his iron consistency and most of the pros who I showed this to at the
655
00:31:42.820 --> 00:31:43.460
World Golf
656
00:31:43.460 --> 00:31:46.300
Fitness Summit agreed that this looks better.
657
00:31:46.300 --> 00:31:50.160
He's got more arm extension, there's still a little bit of maybe a scoopish
658
00:31:50.160 --> 00:31:51.500
pattern but
659
00:31:51.500 --> 00:31:54.220
he's got much better arm extension on the way through.
660
00:31:54.220 --> 00:31:58.410
It looks like he's doing something different with the driver than the iron but
661
00:31:58.410 --> 00:31:58.940
now from
662
00:31:58.940 --> 00:32:02.960
looking at the data perhaps you'll understand that he's actually doing closer
663
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:03.580
to the same
664
00:32:03.580 --> 00:32:09.140
thing with the driver and the iron and that's why it looks different.
665
00:32:09.140 --> 00:32:13.760
So I wanted him to understand the difference in the relationship of the axis
666
00:32:13.760 --> 00:32:14.340
tilt.
667
00:32:14.340 --> 00:32:19.060
So I gave him a drill that we have on the site to help him feel pushing into
668
00:32:19.060 --> 00:32:19.860
that front
669
00:32:19.860 --> 00:32:26.010
leg while those arms extend past his body and making sure that his upper body
670
00:32:26.010 --> 00:32:26.900
fell away
671
00:32:26.900 --> 00:32:31.520
from the target a little bit helping to create that improved axis tilt.
672
00:32:31.520 --> 00:32:36.270
So we discussed it and he did this drill took about three minutes in between
673
00:32:36.270 --> 00:32:36.980
that first
674
00:32:36.980 --> 00:32:40.380
swing and what you're going to see right here.
675
00:32:40.380 --> 00:32:43.960
So this was the very next swing after doing his drill and understanding the
676
00:32:43.960 --> 00:32:45.860
concept better
677
00:32:45.860 --> 00:32:50.370
and he was able to increase his launch angle and pick up about 30 yards but the
678
00:32:50.370 --> 00:32:51.020
big thing
679
00:32:51.020 --> 00:32:56.780
was he was able to control his trajectory in the amount of curve.
680
00:32:56.780 --> 00:33:02.550
He was no longer afraid of the smother hook after practicing it for the rest of
681
00:33:02.550 --> 00:33:05.820
the session.
682
00:33:05.820 --> 00:33:11.280
Okay, so he had been working on the supination and we added the axis tilt and
683
00:33:11.280 --> 00:33:12.500
the difference
684
00:33:12.500 --> 00:33:13.980
between the two.
685
00:33:13.980 --> 00:33:20.100
Now his iron swing and his driver's swing the release looks very similar but
686
00:33:20.100 --> 00:33:21.300
the important
687
00:33:21.300 --> 00:33:24.420
thing is it looks similar because he's now doing different things.
688
00:33:24.420 --> 00:33:29.280
If you were to now use some of this information that you've been presented with
689
00:33:29.280 --> 00:33:30.060
take a look
690
00:33:30.060 --> 00:33:33.750
at the location of his upper body compared to either the golf ball or compared
691
00:33:33.750 --> 00:33:34.140
to the
692
00:33:34.140 --> 00:33:38.090
pelvis and you can see that they're pretty much on top of each other just a
693
00:33:38.090 --> 00:33:38.820
slight tilt
694
00:33:38.820 --> 00:33:39.820
away.
695
00:33:39.820 --> 00:33:43.840
Now over here with the driver we can or with the afterversion we can see that
696
00:33:43.840 --> 00:33:44.540
that right
697
00:33:44.540 --> 00:33:49.040
shoulder is well behind the golf ball the chest is behind kind of his right hip
698
00:33:49.040 --> 00:33:49.300
.
699
00:33:49.300 --> 00:33:54.260
He's got a lot more axis tilt which helps produce more of this flat bottom to
700
00:33:54.260 --> 00:33:55.060
the swing.
701
00:33:55.060 --> 00:33:59.570
Now we have a golfer demonstrating some low point control so this golfer was
702
00:33:59.570 --> 00:34:00.260
struggling
703
00:34:00.260 --> 00:34:04.420
more with iron consistency was driving the ball great.
704
00:34:04.420 --> 00:34:10.660
So what you'll see here I'll let this play a couple times is you'll see the
705
00:34:10.660 --> 00:34:11.940
club working
706
00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:15.580
up quickly after impact.
707
00:34:15.580 --> 00:34:20.730
Now I had him in slow motion show me the release that he was training and you
708
00:34:20.730 --> 00:34:22.460
can see that
709
00:34:22.460 --> 00:34:28.290
the low points pretty much in the middle of his stance and then starting to
710
00:34:28.290 --> 00:34:29.180
work up very
711
00:34:29.180 --> 00:34:35.500
quickly right through impact and you can also see that the club face is tending
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00:34:35.500 --> 00:34:37.160
to stay open.
713
00:34:37.160 --> 00:34:42.740
We've addressed all those issues with a cluster of drills and I'll show you
714
00:34:42.740 --> 00:34:44.260
here in a second.
715
00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:47.860
Now if you're not used to seeing that drill of just like a slow motion release
716
00:34:47.860 --> 00:34:48.060
here's
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00:34:48.060 --> 00:34:55.110
a student who has more of a iron base wing demonstrating kind of the same thing
718
00:34:55.110 --> 00:34:55.700
and what
719
00:34:55.700 --> 00:35:00.770
you'll we're doing the same drill I should say and what you'll see is that his
720
00:35:00.770 --> 00:35:01.540
tendency
721
00:35:01.540 --> 00:35:06.140
is to have the club working much more high to low where the golfer previously
722
00:35:06.140 --> 00:35:06.900
was having
723
00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:10.500
much more low to high.
724
00:35:10.500 --> 00:35:15.820
So now after doing a drill called nine to low point that we use on the site he
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00:35:15.820 --> 00:35:16.540
was working
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00:35:16.540 --> 00:35:20.100
on getting without letting his upper body lunge that's why he had the stick
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00:35:20.100 --> 00:35:20.620
here he was
728
00:35:20.620 --> 00:35:25.220
working on getting the club to bottom out more in front of the golf ball.
729
00:35:25.220 --> 00:35:29.630
So now what you'll tend to see is a little bit more neutral pattern where the
730
00:35:29.630 --> 00:35:30.180
club is
731
00:35:30.180 --> 00:35:34.660
coming down through contact and then working up on the way through.
732
00:35:34.660 --> 00:35:38.730
But you'll see that after impact the club is lower to the ground with that arm
733
00:35:38.730 --> 00:35:39.420
extension
734
00:35:39.420 --> 00:35:44.180
it's less of a club working up pattern.
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00:35:44.180 --> 00:35:52.370
So here we've got both versions we'll try to get them about even after impact
736
00:35:52.370 --> 00:35:53.220
you can
737
00:35:53.220 --> 00:35:56.710
see this is a little bit more of that driver base movement where the club is
738
00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:57.280
coming up
739
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:00.580
pretty quickly this is more of the iron base movement where he's got a little
740
00:36:00.580 --> 00:36:01.140
bit better
741
00:36:01.140 --> 00:36:04.820
access tilt and that club working more down.
742
00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:09.720
So it doesn't have to look perfectly but if you make some smart adjustments to
743
00:36:09.720 --> 00:36:11.060
your pattern
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00:36:11.060 --> 00:36:15.460
you can make progress with either the iron or the driver.
745
00:36:15.460 --> 00:36:21.320
The next goal is then to train going back and forth between those two shots so
746
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:21.780
that
747
00:36:21.780 --> 00:36:26.140
you have a better success rate of being able to pull it off on the course.
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00:36:26.140 --> 00:36:30.680
If you struggle with one area of the other I would tend to suggest with the
749
00:36:30.680 --> 00:36:31.420
driver you
750
00:36:31.420 --> 00:36:35.940
would want to focus on access tilt the club path as well as the face-to-path
751
00:36:35.940 --> 00:36:37.040
relationship.
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00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:41.560
I use a number of drills on the website frequently to help people with these
753
00:36:41.560 --> 00:36:42.500
concepts mostly
754
00:36:42.500 --> 00:36:46.290
revolving around how the lower body works since it's more of a total body
755
00:36:46.290 --> 00:36:47.060
activity and
756
00:36:47.060 --> 00:36:51.440
how to create the proper access tilt as well as how to release the club with a
757
00:36:51.440 --> 00:36:52.060
little bit
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00:36:52.060 --> 00:36:55.780
more supination to support more of that loading pattern.
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00:36:55.780 --> 00:36:59.920
With iron consistency I'm typically working on more low point control or face-
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to-target
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relationship so things such as the open right hand or getting a little bit more
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access tilt
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and learning where the upper body should be in space and potentially tempo
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drills work
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really well for this particular problem but one of the goal standards I go for
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with low
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point control is the arm extension timing and direction which I have a number
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of different
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videos to help support.
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If you enjoyed this presentation and getting into a little bit more of the
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details of
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how the swing works please subscribe to our YouTube channel like us on Facebook
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and if
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you are interested head over to galsmartacademy.com that's my site where I kind
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of share all the
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thoughts of what I learn from doing classes and what I come up with when
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working with
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my students and what I learn from other instructors so it's kind of my drop box
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for all the different
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swing ideas to help amateur golfers and those do-it-yourself style golfers as
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well as golf
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coaches.
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I've got an upcoming book called the stock tour swing which should be around
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either
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by the end of the year or early in 2017 and I'm working on a coaches
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certification but
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if you have any questions about anything presented in this webinar or anything
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else please don't
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hesitate to contact me Tyler at Golfsmart Academy or you can submit a question
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through
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the site.
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Thank you for taking a look at my presentation from the World Golf Fitness
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Summit 2016 on
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driver versus iron differences.
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