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Learn the few keys to identify which key move is hurting your irons or your driver
Driver -
- flat spot
- early face
- good sequence
Iron
- Low point line
- Path neutral-ish
- No scoop
Video Transcript
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In this analysis video, we're going to look at the difference between the iron
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and the
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driver swing.
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And while there are lots of little subtle differences, we're going to focus on
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the two
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primary differences, which is going to be the difference in their axis tilt and
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the
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difference in what I call the chop versus the lift movement of the arms.
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From the face on view, the easiest way for us to look at axis tilt is if we
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were to take
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a golfer to just about impact and then draw a vertical line up from the golf
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ball, and
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then another one down from their shirt buttons.
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Now because of the color of Adam's shirt on the left, we're going to use the
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edge of
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his hat instead.
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So if we were to draw a vertical line down from his shirt buttons or the edge
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of his
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hat, with the driver, you will see that the head is going to be or the shirt
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buttons is
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going to be a significant amount behind the bottom of the swing or behind the
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golf ball.
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With the iron, you're going to see that the shirt buttons will typically be
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around on
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top of the golf ball.
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But the biggest thing is you will see that they are further forward with the
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iron than
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they would be with the driver, primarily with the upper body.
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The lower body has shifted just about the same amount, regardless of whether
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they're
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hitting an iron or a driver.
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Now one of the other pieces to this axis tilt puzzle is with the driver, you
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will see that
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they will initiate transition with their upper body shifting just slightly
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forward.
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And then once they get to about delivery position and they start going into the
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release, you'll
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actually see the head and the upper body back up.
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I'll go through that a couple times and we're going to look at a variety of
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different
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Tory and amateur golfer so that you can see this pattern.
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But you will see basically as they start this release, that upper body is going
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to drift
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backwards.
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The difference that you'll see with the iron is as they start into their down
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swing, the
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upper body is going to drift forwards.
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And then instead of backing up significantly, it's more or less going to
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stabilize.
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What I see on 3D is that with an ideal iron swing, the upper body from the top
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of the
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swing is going to move a few inches forward and then move just slightly
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backward from
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there so that when you are making contact with your iron, your upper body is
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actually
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about two inches closer to the target than it was at the top of the swing.
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With the driver or the ideal driver swing, you'll see a slight shift forward of
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about
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an inch and a half.
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And then you will see a slight shift away to the point when they are making
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contact with
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their driver, their upper body is actually, on average, a little bit behind
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where it was
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at the top of the swing.
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This helps create that axis tilt, which helps support the angle of attack and
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the loft characteristics
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that we are trying to create for the driver swing.
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Now let's talk about the difference between the arm movements in the chop
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versus the lift
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pattern for the driver versus the iron.
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So here we have Adam again, and we are going to take him down to roughly
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delivery position,
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which will be somewhere about like so.
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If I bring him down with the iron to somewhere about like so, you'll see a
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similar looking
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pattern with the shaft somewhere around that right forearm in both cases.
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Now even though their bodies look like they are in identical positions, we know
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from looking
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at the face on view that on the iron swing, Adam is actually a little bit more
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on top of
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the ball where in the driver swing, Adam is actually starting to work back
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towards us.
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Here's where that's going to show up in what the arms do.
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So as he goes through his release with the driver, you will tend to see the
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arms working
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a little bit more up to the point where when he gets to shaft parallel in the
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ground or
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the follow through position, if you had a line straight out in front of his
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shirt buttons,
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the driver swing will be out up into the right, where if you had him swinging
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his ideal iron,
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the arms would continue down and as a result when they get to that waist height
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position,
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they're actually going to disappear because they will be more or less in front
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of his
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shirt buttons.
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This is one of the critical pieces to the difference between the ideal iron and
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the ideal
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driver swing and one that many tour pros seamlessly integrate.
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Now let's take a look at another golfer, this is Jason Day.
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So on the left we have his driver and we can see that from the top of swing,
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that upper
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body is going to have a slight shift forward followed by a shift backward
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during the release
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and you'll see that when he makes contact with the golf ball, his shirt buttons
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are a
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good four or five, six inches behind the golf ball.
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Here on the right, we can see with the iron, he's going to have a slight shift
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forward
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with his upper body and then less dramatic shift backwards or what I call more
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of a stabilizing
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action.
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When he makes contact with the golf ball, his camera angle may not be perfect
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but you
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can clearly see that his upper body is further forward compared to where it was
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with his
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driver.
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Now let's take a look at the chopped first lift from the down the line view.
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So over on the left, we'll see as the club comes down, we're going to get them
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both to
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delivery positions.
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So now if we come down with the iron, we will see, he may be hitting a cut shot
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, it's hard
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to tell but you can see there's definitely a little bit of a difference in his
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shaft
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plane here at the delivery position.
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But as we come down, we will see, we know that his upper body is moving
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backward at this
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point and it's behind the golf ball and so what you will see is the arms reach
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more up
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and out and you will see when he gets to the follow through position that if
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you had a
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line even with his body or if we were looking to the shirt buttons, the club
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would be off
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to the right of that line or to the right of his body and his shirt buttons.
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If you were to look at him over here on the left with the iron, you'll see that
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as he
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comes through, the club when it gets to that waist height position has
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disappeared because
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it has been working more down, low and left or what I consider more of a chop
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movement
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because the height compared to his belt buckle would be lower and the path
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would be more
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left as if I were executing a chop.
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Here the handle is quite high compared to his belt and further out to the right
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as if
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he is conducting a lift.
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Now let's take a look at another example, here we have Jason Duffner.
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So from the top of the swing, we are going to see the upper body drift slightly
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forward
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and then start working back away during the release and you'll see that when he
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makes
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contact with the golf ball, his upper body or the edge of his shirt buttons
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kind of right
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around here is going to be again six inches or so, a significant amount behind
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the golf
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ball, with the iron you'll see his upper body working forward and then more or
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less stabilizing
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or in his case working more up, but it doesn't have quite the amount of moving
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backward as
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he has in the driver.
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And now let's look at his chop versus lift pattern from the down the line.
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So on the left we have the driver.
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Let's get him into delivery position where we'll see that club shafts roughly
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in line
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with the forearm, here on the iron we can get to a somewhat similar looking
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position.
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Now if we continue moving the driver down through impact, you will see the club
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exit
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a little bit more up and you can still see the handle when the club is parallel
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to the
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ground.
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Over here on the right where he's making contact with the iron, you will see
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that you
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are just starting to lose the handle.
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So again, here's where his shirt buttons are, here's where his shirt buttons
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would be.
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You can see that the hands are further left with the iron, but not quite as
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significantly
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as with some other players, but there is clearly a difference in the handle
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height if you were
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looking compared to the belt line and the location of the club.
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So his is not quite as exaggerated as some other players and we can get into
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that in
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his personal evaluation, but in general he is going with more of a lift pattern
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on the
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left and more of a chow pattern on the right.
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Now before we go over any more pros, let's take a break and look at a few am
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ateurs.
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So here we have one of my students who has more of a driver based swing.
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And what you'll see is that with the driver, you're going to see the club work
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excessively
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up and out to the right.
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So that if you had that line in front of a shirt buttons, we can clearly see
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the handle
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off to the right.
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Now with the iron, he executes more or less the same pattern so that when he
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comes through,
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that club is still up into the right.
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He's using the lift pattern and as a result, he tends to struggle a little bit
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with consistent
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contact with his irons and battling hooks with the driver.
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If we look at this driver based pattern from the face on view, what we will see
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is that
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when he starts his downswing, he's going to have the slight shift forward and
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then a very
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pronounced shift backward.
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Now if you remember the tour pros, the adjustment that they made with the
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driver was it was going
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to come a little bit more, or the upper body was going to drift a little bit
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more on top
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of the golf ball.
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Here what you'll see is a very similar pattern to his driver where his upper
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body shifts back
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more behind it or away from where it was similarly to what he's doing with the
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driver.
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So even though he is further behind where the golf ball was with the driver
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than with
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the iron, he is executing a version of the driver pattern with his iron, which
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is part
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of the reason why he has a little bit of struggle.
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Now we will look at a few amateurs executing more of the iron pattern.
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So here we have a higher handicap and what you'll see is with the driver, you
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're going
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to see the same overall pattern that we see with his iron.
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So we'll get him more or less down to delivery position, you'll see a similar
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looking club
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path.
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Now as we take the driver to contact and then to the follow through position,
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you will see
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that when he gets to that follow through position, the handle of the club and
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the club head
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are clearly in front of his chest.
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We do this with the iron, we would expect to see it more to the left, but what
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we're
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actually seeing is it's about the same.
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So he's executing the same pattern with his iron that he's demonstrating with
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his driver
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and it's more of an iron base.
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Now from the face on view, we're going to see the iron base pattern of the
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upper body
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drive forward and then more or less stabilize.
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So when he's making contact, if we were to draw a line down from his shirt
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buttons or
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sternum, we can see it's just slightly behind the golf ball.
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Now with the iron, we'll see that similar pattern of upper body driving forward
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and
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then stabilize to where his upper body is more or less the exact same place
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compared
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to where it is with the driver.
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So while Tour Pros seem to make these adjustments, whether it's conscious or
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unconscious, they're
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able to make these changes of how they're swinging the club with an iron and
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how they're
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swinging the club with the driver that produces the successful strike with each
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club.
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And now let's take a look at another iron base swing, but this time with a low
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handicap
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golfer.
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So we'll take him up to the top of the swing and draw a line vertically up from
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the back
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of the golf ball just as a reference.
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So we're going to go up to the top of the swing, draw a line vertically.
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Now you'll see from here, we can't really tell if this is going to be an iron
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or a
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driver base swing because in the driver, he's definitely further behind the
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golf ball.
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What we'll see is if we establish that line from where the upper body is at the
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top of
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the swing, you'll see during transition a prominent shift on top of the golf
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ball and
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never really moving backward but just stabilizing.
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Now when he makes contact, he is slightly behind the golf ball, but you can see
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that
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it's more of an iron base pattern with the upper body kind of lunging forward.
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Now on the iron, you'll see a smaller version of that shift and then the same
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stabilization
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pattern.
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Now this is, he did not actually break the shaft, it's an effect of what's
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called a rolling
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shutter but what's happening with his body and his arms is something that you
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can clearly
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pay attention to.
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And it's what he's doing with his arms and his club that have caused him to
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have consistency
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issues and trouble mostly with the driver because he's a very good iron player.
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Lastly, now that we've taken a look at what's different between the two swings,
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let's take
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a look at what's similar or consistent between your iron and your driver swing.
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The two main things that we're going to look at here are sequencing and the
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release.
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So here we have Jason Day and to look at sequencing, it's easiest to do from
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the down the line
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view and we're going to look for checkpoints as far as when movements are
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occurring from
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different parts of the body.
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So during transition, you will see that a lot of the focus is on a subtle
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movement of
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the wrist but the majority of the movement is going to come from the lower body
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.
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You'll see during transition, whether it's with the iron or the driver, the
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transition
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movement is going to be driven by the lower body.
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One way that you can clearly see this is his legs or his thighs will reach
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parallel to
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the target line, kind of like so, roughly when the left arm is or the left
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upper arm
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is parallel to the ground, which it is in both of these swings.
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It's going to be consistent during all of your stock full swings.
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The next checkpoint we're going to look at is delivery position or when he's
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come to
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about shaft parallel to the ground in the downswing.
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What we will see at this position is the arms are going to be more or less
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still in the
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orientation they were at the top of the swing and his chest is going to be
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facing a golf
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ball or pointed out in the general direction of the golf ball.
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And finally what you'll see is during the release from this down the line view,
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you'll
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see that the arms are going to basically take the club the last part of the
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downswing.
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You will see with the iron because it's more of, because the upper body is a
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little bit
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more or less tilted behind it, the right arm will be a little bit straighter
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than it is
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with the driver, but the overall release pattern is going to be the same.
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Now for the general release stuff, I'm usually referencing 3D, but we'll do
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what we can and
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look at a few things with the video.
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So one of the things that's really easy to look at if you have a good frame
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rate and
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a good high speed video is the angle of the wrist roughly as they're making
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contact with
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the golf ball.
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Now it's going to be a little bit harder to draw the one here on the right
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because of
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the fact that he's wearing all black, but if I were to draw a line basically
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down his
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forearm and then down the grip, you can see the number right here, which is
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about an 85
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degree angle between these two.
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If you were to draw for the driver, you're going to see about 82.
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Eerily, even though his upper body is well behind the golf ball, his wrists are
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in the
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same orientation compared to his body, more or less, or compared to the golf
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ball.
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Even though he's got a lot less shaft lean with the driver than he does with an
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iron,
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the reason for that is because of the amount of side tilt.
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Being slightly more with the driver than it would be with the iron, giving the
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illusion
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or appearance of less shaft lean compared to his body, his hands are more or
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less doing
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the same thing, which is what you're working on in your stock full swing.
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Now we'll look at a few more golfers putting all of this together.
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We have Justin Rose, and I'll draw some of our different reference lines.
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From the top of the swing, I'm going to draw one line up from the back of the
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golf ball,
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just like so.
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During transition, you'll see the slight shift forward followed by the shift
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backward during
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the release.
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You can see by his head.
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This is a three wood, it's not a driver, so he's going to be a little bit more
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on top
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of it than he would be if you were truly striking up.
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If we take it to the frame just before impact, we can get an idea of where his
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wrist is.
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So we'll say that's roughly around 70.
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Now with the iron, you'll see a little bit more of the shift forward followed
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by a little
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bit more of the stabilization, not quite as much a shift back, and it's going
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to be a little
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bit trickier to get the grip, but we'll give it our best.
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So I think that's the grip kind of somewhere right about there, so 70, 77,
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those look pretty
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close to me.
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Again, just looking at some of the similarities as well as some of the
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differences between
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the driver and the iron swing.
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Now for fun, let's look at a few of the less traditional swings.
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So here we have Lee Westwood, and he's not hitting a driver, so it's going to
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be a little
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less in the spectrum.
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But as he goes through, you'll see even with his tendency to bend his arm, when
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the club
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is roughly parallel, you can see, you can still see the club head over here,
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the grip
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is going to be more or less there, it's slightly to the right, at least when we
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compare that
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to the short iron that he's hitting over here on the left, or sorry, on the
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right.
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So as he comes down, you'll clearly see the handle working a little bit more
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left, and
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when he gets to that follow-through position, the club is more or less bisect
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ing his body
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or straight out in front.
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And here we have Zach Johnson, I'm going to save the camera on the left isn't
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very good,
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but we can see the slight shift forward, followed by the stabilization.
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On the right, you can see from the top of the swing, slight shift forward,
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followed by
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a much more prominent shift back.
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Now whether or not that change is conscious is totally debatable, but it's
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important to
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understand that that change is happening.
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Now one last little point, or one last way to look at this, is we can highlight
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it by
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using Roy Macquarie as an example.
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In order to create this axis tilt, in order to have the upper body going
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backward, you're
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going to be using your legs to push against the ground.
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You'll see that as he pushes his left leg, that's what causes his upper body to
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go backward.
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That also helps trigger the arms working up.
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So more or less, a good driver of the golf ball is going to use the lower body
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as their
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main power source, where a good iron player is typically going to use the
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shoulder and
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lat as their main power source.
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What we'll see with the examples is as Roy goes through, you'll see his left
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foot is going
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to actually spin and be a little bit elevated.
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So it's slightly off the ground allowing it to spin because he's pushing so
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hard against
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the ground.
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With the iron, there's going to be a less dramatic push from the lower body and
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a little bit
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more of an upper body dominant movement, so you won't see the same amount of
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gap between
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or movement of his foot as he goes into this release.
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So I hope that helps clear up what we're trying to do with your stock full
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swing.
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The stock full swing is going to help you build a swing from the ground up of
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moving
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your lower body, positioning your hands for the proper release, and then
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helping you
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figure out how to transfer all that energy into the golf club during the
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release.
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The things that are going to adjust are going to be the direction of where you
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're applying
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that force.
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With the driver, you want to be more of a sweeping motion.
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With an iron, you're going to be hitting the ball before the ground or a little
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bit more
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of a chopping or downward motion.
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If you can figure out how to build one or two thoughts to make that simple
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transition from
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driver to iron, it will help you immensely be a consistent not only just driver
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or iron
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player but a consistent golfer.
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In this analysis video, we're going to look at the difference between the iron
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and the
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driver swing.
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And while there are lots of little subtle differences, we're going to focus on
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the two
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primary differences, which is going to be the difference in their axis tilt and
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the
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difference in what I call the chop versus the lift movement of the arms.
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From the face on view, the easiest way for us to look at axis tilt is if we
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were to take
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a golfer to just about impact and then draw a vertical line up from the golf
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ball, and
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then another one down from their shirt buttons.
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Now because of the color of Adam's shirt on the left, we're going to use the
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edge of
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his hat instead.
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So if we were to draw a vertical line down from his shirt buttons or the edge
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of his
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hat, with the driver, you will see that the head is going to be or the shirt
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buttons is
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going to be a significant amount behind the bottom of the swing or behind the
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golf ball.
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With the iron, you're going to see that the shirt buttons will typically be
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around on
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top of the golf ball.
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But the biggest thing is you will see that they are further forward with the
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iron than
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they would be with the driver, primarily with the upper body.
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The lower body has shifted just about the same amount, regardless of whether
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they're
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hitting an iron or a driver.
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Now one of the other pieces to this axis tilt puzzle is with the driver, you
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will see that
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they will initiate transition with their upper body shifting just slightly
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forward.
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And then once they get to about delivery position and they start going into the
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release, you'll
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actually see the head and the upper body back up.
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I'll go through that a couple times and we're going to look at a variety of
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different
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Tory and amateur golfer so that you can see this pattern.
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But you will see basically as they start this release, that upper body is going
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to drift
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backwards.
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The difference that you'll see with the iron is as they start into their down
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swing, the
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upper body is going to drift forwards.
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And then instead of backing up significantly, it's more or less going to
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stabilize.
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What I see on 3D is that with an ideal iron swing, the upper body from the top
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of the
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swing is going to move a few inches forward and then move just slightly
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backward from
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there so that when you are making contact with your iron, your upper body is
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actually
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about two inches closer to the target than it was at the top of the swing.
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With the driver or the ideal driver swing, you'll see a slight shift forward of
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about
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an inch and a half.
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And then you will see a slight shift away to the point when they are making
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contact with
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their driver, their upper body is actually, on average, a little bit behind
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where it was
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at the top of the swing.
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This helps create that axis tilt, which helps support the angle of attack and
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the loft characteristics
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that we are trying to create for the driver swing.
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Now let's talk about the difference between the arm movements in the chop
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versus the lift
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pattern for the driver versus the iron.
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So here we have Adam again, and we are going to take him down to roughly
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delivery position,
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which will be somewhere about like so.
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If I bring him down with the iron to somewhere about like so, you'll see a
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similar looking
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pattern with the shaft somewhere around that right forearm in both cases.
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Now even though their bodies look like they are in identical positions, we know
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from looking
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at the face on view that on the iron swing, Adam is actually a little bit more
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on top of
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the ball where in the driver swing, Adam is actually starting to work back
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towards us.
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Here's where that's going to show up in what the arms do.
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So as he goes through his release with the driver, you will tend to see the
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arms working
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a little bit more up to the point where when he gets to shaft parallel in the
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ground or
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the follow through position, if you had a line straight out in front of his
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shirt buttons,
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the driver swing will be out up into the right, where if you had him swinging
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his ideal iron,
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the arms would continue down and as a result when they get to that waist height
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position,
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they're actually going to disappear because they will be more or less in front
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of his
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shirt buttons.
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This is one of the critical pieces to the difference between the ideal iron and
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the ideal
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driver swing and one that many tour pros seamlessly integrate.
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Now let's take a look at another golfer, this is Jason Day.
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So on the left we have his driver and we can see that from the top of swing,
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that upper
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body is going to have a slight shift forward followed by a shift backward
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during the release
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and you'll see that when he makes contact with the golf ball, his shirt buttons
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are a
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good four or five, six inches behind the golf ball.
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Here on the right, we can see with the iron, he's going to have a slight shift
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forward
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with his upper body and then less dramatic shift backwards or what I call more
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of a stabilizing
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action.
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When he makes contact with the golf ball, his camera angle may not be perfect
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but you
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can clearly see that his upper body is further forward compared to where it was
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with his
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driver.
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Now let's take a look at the chopped first lift from the down the line view.
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So over on the left, we'll see as the club comes down, we're going to get them
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both to
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delivery positions.
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So now if we come down with the iron, we will see, he may be hitting a cut shot
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, it's hard
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to tell but you can see there's definitely a little bit of a difference in his
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shaft
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plane here at the delivery position.
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But as we come down, we will see, we know that his upper body is moving
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backward at this
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point and it's behind the golf ball and so what you will see is the arms reach
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more up
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and out and you will see when he gets to the follow through position that if
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you had a
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line even with his body or if we were looking to the shirt buttons, the club
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would be off
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to the right of that line or to the right of his body and his shirt buttons.
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If you were to look at him over here on the left with the iron, you'll see that
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as he
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comes through, the club when it gets to that waist height position has
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disappeared because
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it has been working more down, low and left or what I consider more of a chop
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movement
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because the height compared to his belt buckle would be lower and the path
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would be more
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left as if I were executing a chop.
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Here the handle is quite high compared to his belt and further out to the right
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as if
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he is conducting a lift.
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Now let's take a look at another example, here we have Jason Duffner.
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So from the top of the swing, we are going to see the upper body drift slightly
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forward
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and then start working back away during the release and you'll see that when he
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makes
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contact with the golf ball, his upper body or the edge of his shirt buttons
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kind of right
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around here is going to be again six inches or so, a significant amount behind
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the golf
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ball, with the iron you'll see his upper body working forward and then more or
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less stabilizing
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or in his case working more up, but it doesn't have quite the amount of moving
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backward as
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he has in the driver.
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And now let's look at his chop versus lift pattern from the down the line.
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So on the left we have the driver.
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Let's get him into delivery position where we'll see that club shafts roughly
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in line
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with the forearm, here on the iron we can get to a somewhat similar looking
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position.
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Now if we continue moving the driver down through impact, you will see the club
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exit
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a little bit more up and you can still see the handle when the club is parallel
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to the
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ground.
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Over here on the right where he's making contact with the iron, you will see
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that you
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are just starting to lose the handle.
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So again, here's where his shirt buttons are, here's where his shirt buttons
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would be.
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You can see that the hands are further left with the iron, but not quite as
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significantly
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as with some other players, but there is clearly a difference in the handle
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height if you were
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looking compared to the belt line and the location of the club.
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So his is not quite as exaggerated as some other players and we can get into
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that in
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his personal evaluation, but in general he is going with more of a lift pattern
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on the
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left and more of a chow pattern on the right.
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Now before we go over any more pros, let's take a break and look at a few am
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ateurs.
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So here we have one of my students who has more of a driver based swing.
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And what you'll see is that with the driver, you're going to see the club work
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excessively
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up and out to the right.
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So that if you had that line in front of a shirt buttons, we can clearly see
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the handle
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off to the right.
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Now with the iron, he executes more or less the same pattern so that when he
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comes through,
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that club is still up into the right.
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He's using the lift pattern and as a result, he tends to struggle a little bit
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with consistent
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contact with his irons and battling hooks with the driver.
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If we look at this driver based pattern from the face on view, what we will see
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is that
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when he starts his downswing, he's going to have the slight shift forward and
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then a very
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pronounced shift backward.
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Now if you remember the tour pros, the adjustment that they made with the
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driver was it was going
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to come a little bit more, or the upper body was going to drift a little bit
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more on top
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of the golf ball.
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Here what you'll see is a very similar pattern to his driver where his upper
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body shifts back
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more behind it or away from where it was similarly to what he's doing with the
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driver.
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So even though he is further behind where the golf ball was with the driver
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than with
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the iron, he is executing a version of the driver pattern with his iron, which
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is part
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of the reason why he has a little bit of struggle.
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Now we will look at a few amateurs executing more of the iron pattern.
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So here we have a higher handicap and what you'll see is with the driver, you
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're going
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to see the same overall pattern that we see with his iron.
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So we'll get him more or less down to delivery position, you'll see a similar
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looking club
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path.
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Now as we take the driver to contact and then to the follow through position,
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you will see
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that when he gets to that follow through position, the handle of the club and
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the club head
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are clearly in front of his chest.
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We do this with the iron, we would expect to see it more to the left, but what
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we're
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actually seeing is it's about the same.
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So he's executing the same pattern with his iron that he's demonstrating with
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his driver
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and it's more of an iron base.
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Now from the face on view, we're going to see the iron base pattern of the
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upper body
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drive forward and then more or less stabilize.
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So when he's making contact, if we were to draw a line down from his shirt
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buttons or
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sternum, we can see it's just slightly behind the golf ball.
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Now with the iron, we'll see that similar pattern of upper body driving forward
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and
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then stabilize to where his upper body is more or less the exact same place
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compared
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to where it is with the driver.
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So while Tour Pros seem to make these adjustments, whether it's conscious or
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unconscious, they're
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able to make these changes of how they're swinging the club with an iron and
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how they're
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swinging the club with the driver that produces the successful strike with each
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club.
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And now let's take a look at another iron base swing, but this time with a low
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handicap
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golfer.
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So we'll take him up to the top of the swing and draw a line vertically up from
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the back
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of the golf ball just as a reference.
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So we're going to go up to the top of the swing, draw a line vertically.
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Now you'll see from here, we can't really tell if this is going to be an iron
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or a
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driver base swing because in the driver, he's definitely further behind the
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golf ball.
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What we'll see is if we establish that line from where the upper body is at the
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top of
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the swing, you'll see during transition a prominent shift on top of the golf
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ball and
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never really moving backward but just stabilizing.
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Now when he makes contact, he is slightly behind the golf ball, but you can see
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that
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it's more of an iron base pattern with the upper body kind of lunging forward.
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Now on the iron, you'll see a smaller version of that shift and then the same
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stabilization
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pattern.
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Now this is, he did not actually break the shaft, it's an effect of what's
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called a rolling
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shutter but what's happening with his body and his arms is something that you
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can clearly
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pay attention to.
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And it's what he's doing with his arms and his club that have caused him to
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have consistency
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issues and trouble mostly with the driver because he's a very good iron player.
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Lastly, now that we've taken a look at what's different between the two swings,
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let's take
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a look at what's similar or consistent between your iron and your driver swing.
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The two main things that we're going to look at here are sequencing and the
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release.
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So here we have Jason Day and to look at sequencing, it's easiest to do from
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the down the line
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view and we're going to look for checkpoints as far as when movements are
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occurring from
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different parts of the body.
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So during transition, you will see that a lot of the focus is on a subtle
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movement of
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the wrist but the majority of the movement is going to come from the lower body
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.
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You'll see during transition, whether it's with the iron or the driver, the
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transition
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movement is going to be driven by the lower body.
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One way that you can clearly see this is his legs or his thighs will reach
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parallel to
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the target line, kind of like so, roughly when the left arm is or the left
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upper arm
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is parallel to the ground, which it is in both of these swings.
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It's going to be consistent during all of your stock full swings.
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The next checkpoint we're going to look at is delivery position or when he's
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come to
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about shaft parallel to the ground in the downswing.
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What we will see at this position is the arms are going to be more or less
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still in the
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orientation they were at the top of the swing and his chest is going to be
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facing a golf
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ball or pointed out in the general direction of the golf ball.
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And finally what you'll see is during the release from this down the line view,
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you'll
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see that the arms are going to basically take the club the last part of the
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downswing.
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You will see with the iron because it's more of, because the upper body is a
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little bit
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more or less tilted behind it, the right arm will be a little bit straighter
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than it is
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with the driver, but the overall release pattern is going to be the same.
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Now for the general release stuff, I'm usually referencing 3D, but we'll do
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what we can and
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look at a few things with the video.
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So one of the things that's really easy to look at if you have a good frame
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rate and
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a good high speed video is the angle of the wrist roughly as they're making
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contact with
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the golf ball.
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Now it's going to be a little bit harder to draw the one here on the right
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because of
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the fact that he's wearing all black, but if I were to draw a line basically
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down his
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forearm and then down the grip, you can see the number right here, which is
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about an 85
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degree angle between these two.
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If you were to draw for the driver, you're going to see about 82.
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Eerily, even though his upper body is well behind the golf ball, his wrists are
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in the
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same orientation compared to his body, more or less, or compared to the golf
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ball.
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Even though he's got a lot less shaft lean with the driver than he does with an
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iron,
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the reason for that is because of the amount of side tilt.
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Being slightly more with the driver than it would be with the iron, giving the
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illusion
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or appearance of less shaft lean compared to his body, his hands are more or
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less doing
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the same thing, which is what you're working on in your stock full swing.
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Now we'll look at a few more golfers putting all of this together.
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We have Justin Rose, and I'll draw some of our different reference lines.
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From the top of the swing, I'm going to draw one line up from the back of the
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golf ball,
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just like so.
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During transition, you'll see the slight shift forward followed by the shift
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backward during
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the release.
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You can see by his head.
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This is a three wood, it's not a driver, so he's going to be a little bit more
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on top
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of it than he would be if you were truly striking up.
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If we take it to the frame just before impact, we can get an idea of where his
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wrist is.
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So we'll say that's roughly around 70.
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Now with the iron, you'll see a little bit more of the shift forward followed
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by a little
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bit more of the stabilization, not quite as much a shift back, and it's going
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to be a little
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bit trickier to get the grip, but we'll give it our best.
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So I think that's the grip kind of somewhere right about there, so 70, 77,
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those look pretty
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close to me.
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Again, just looking at some of the similarities as well as some of the
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differences between
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the driver and the iron swing.
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Now for fun, let's look at a few of the less traditional swings.
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So here we have Lee Westwood, and he's not hitting a driver, so it's going to
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be a little
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less in the spectrum.
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But as he goes through, you'll see even with his tendency to bend his arm, when
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the club
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is roughly parallel, you can see, you can still see the club head over here,
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the grip
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is going to be more or less there, it's slightly to the right, at least when we
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compare that
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to the short iron that he's hitting over here on the left, or sorry, on the
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right.
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So as he comes down, you'll clearly see the handle working a little bit more
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left, and
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when he gets to that follow-through position, the club is more or less bisect
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ing his body
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or straight out in front.
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And here we have Zach Johnson, I'm going to save the camera on the left isn't
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very good,
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but we can see the slight shift forward, followed by the stabilization.
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On the right, you can see from the top of the swing, slight shift forward,
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followed by
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a much more prominent shift back.
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Now whether or not that change is conscious is totally debatable, but it's
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important to
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understand that that change is happening.
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Now one last little point, or one last way to look at this, is we can highlight
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it by
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using Roy Macquarie as an example.
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In order to create this axis tilt, in order to have the upper body going
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backward, you're
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going to be using your legs to push against the ground.
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You'll see that as he pushes his left leg, that's what causes his upper body to
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go backward.
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That also helps trigger the arms working up.
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So more or less, a good driver of the golf ball is going to use the lower body
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as their
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main power source, where a good iron player is typically going to use the
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shoulder and
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lat as their main power source.
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What we'll see with the examples is as Roy goes through, you'll see his left
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foot is going
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to actually spin and be a little bit elevated.
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So it's slightly off the ground allowing it to spin because he's pushing so
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hard against
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the ground.
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With the iron, there's going to be a less dramatic push from the lower body and
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a little bit
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more of an upper body dominant movement, so you won't see the same amount of
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gap between
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or movement of his foot as he goes into this release.
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So I hope that helps clear up what we're trying to do with your stock full
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swing.
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The stock full swing is going to help you build a swing from the ground up of
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moving
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your lower body, positioning your hands for the proper release, and then
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helping you
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figure out how to transfer all that energy into the golf club during the
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release.
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The things that are going to adjust are going to be the direction of where you
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're applying
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that force.
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With the driver, you want to be more of a sweeping motion.
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With an iron, you're going to be hitting the ball before the ground or a little
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bit more
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of a chopping or downward motion.
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If you can figure out how to build one or two thoughts to make that simple
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transition from
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driver to iron, it will help you immensely be a consistent not only just driver
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or iron
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player but a consistent golfer.
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