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Low Point and Solid Contact - Advanced Breakdown
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In the advanced breakdown, you'll dig into the details of the single arm release drills!
Because both hands are holding the club it's often helpful to see how each hand is working. So, when analyzing your release it's often helpful to identify which arm (or side of your body) is causing the main issue. In training, it's really helpful to get the arms and body working together. Also, we dig into more details of the body movements during the release to help improve the quality of your pivot training.
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Okay, so now let's jump into round two.
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We're going to go through some of the details of how to influence these things.
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So in round one, when we went through low point or face control or path control
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, I was
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staying pretty general and I wanted you to be able to explore the ideas.
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Because if you come up with your own answer of how to control path, how to
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control face,
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how to get solid contact, oftentimes that can have a bigger influence on your
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confidence
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and your ability to really own the ideas and own the concepts.
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But you might be working on something and you're really struggling with it.
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Let's say you just keep hitting the ball fat or you keep topping it or you keep
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shanking
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it.
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That's where having the knowledge of the big ideas of how we can influence the
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skill that
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you're working on is really going to come in handy.
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So let's jump into revisiting low point control.
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So now this is an overhead view.
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Let's say I'm hitting a shot in that direction.
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Low point control is looking at where the club is making contact with the
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ground.
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And essentially if you want to master low point control, then I want you to be
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able to influence
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where the club hits the ground, either hitting back here, hitting the ground
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there, or along
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this stick, hitting more inside, hitting more outside, kind of like that.
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So I want to be able to use my skills to move around contact and I want to get
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really pretty
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precise.
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I want to get good control of how the club hits the ground.
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So on this first slide, we're going to take a look at moving it more, let's say
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the target
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is that way, so a little different than when I have on the slide, target is
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that way.
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How do I move it forward, backward?
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So the main things, and sometimes I will draw that, that's very similar to the
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four square
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idea we did in the path control and I'll look at how can you move, or I'll have
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my students
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try and move the contact with the ground around on that grid.
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If you get stuck, in order to move it more forward, in order to move the
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contact point
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more ahead of the golf ball, some of these are going to be desirable, things
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that you
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really can't overdo, some of these are going to be more sensitive, like if you
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overdo it,
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it's going to cause some problems, or it's going to limit how well you can do
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another
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aspect, let's put it that way.
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So I want you to understand how to move it forward, how to move it backward,
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but understand
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that you'll ideally blend some of those to create this really gradual, shallow
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brushing
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of the ground, some four inches in front of the golf ball.
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Okay, so the ones that move it forward, in this, in the stock tour swing
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program, the
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big things that move it forward, outside in path, I'm going to start with that
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one.
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The more that you, you can see if I have a contact point here, the more that I
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move this
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outside in, if the center of the circle stays in the same place, it's going to
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tend to move
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that contact point forward.
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That's what a lot of golfers do, is they have the center of their swing behind
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the ball,
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and then to avoid hitting it fat, they swing outside in.
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That helps them with solid contact, but it limits power, and it limits club
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face control.
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So we don't want a lot of this one, let's look at some of the things that we do
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want
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more of.
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So the wipe, the wipe is more of a shifting of the circle forward, but really
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the wipe
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is more of getting the force along or more rotational.
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So it's using my body to pull along the club as opposed to just throwing the
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club, or the
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club head at the golf ball.
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So we talk about how the shoulders work in the wipe, how the core works in the
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wipe.
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Those can be great, like really big movers of this low point in getting it
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forward.
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A lot of common low handicap golfers who struggle with getting a little bit
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better
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contact, this is one of their major issues.
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Getting the body more open helps move the low point forward, keeping your
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posture angle,
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so staying, avoiding early extension, and remember your posture angle changes
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as you
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rotate through, so it goes from being flexed forwards to turning into more side
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bend,
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but that helps move the bottom of the swing forward.
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The one that I'm seeing that I don't have on here is actually having your
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weight more
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forward or more on the front foot helps move the low point forward, so I'll
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make sure to
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add that later in edit.
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More lag is similar to the wipe or what we talked about in the first level,
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which was
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delaying the timing of the arm straightening.
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So you can have lag more from the shoulder, you can have lag more from the
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elbow, you
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can have lag more in the wrist, but the more that you're delaying the straight
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ening of
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the arms, that's going to move the low point more forward.
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We'll get into, when we look at some of my favorite drills for working on this,
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we'll
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talk about some of the specifics of the wrist movements that move the low point
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forward.
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But in general, if I move the wrist back this way, I'm delaying the widest
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point of the
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circle, so anything that is going to move the club further back along the arc
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is going
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to have the ability to move the low point forward, anything that moves the club
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further
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down the arc is going to have the opposite effect.
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So let's talk about the big movements that move the club backward.
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They tend to be more shallowing movements, so if I had a path that was too far
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into out,
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that will tend to move the low point backward.
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In fact, a lot of golfers who have kind of the classic slice pattern where the
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clubface
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is open, swinging outside in, as they start to improve their swing plane and
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move more
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inside out, they can struggle with getting fat contact simply because of
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changing that
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outside in to inside out path.
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And they're not balancing it by either more leg or more weight shift or
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something else.
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So the key movements that move it backward are going to be more of this axis
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tilt or
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the Jackson 5 movement where the upper body gets behind the lower body.
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We'll talk about it, but don't confuse that just with side bend of the spine.
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You can side bend of the spine and not have a lot of axis tilt or you can side
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bend more
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from the hips and have a lot of this axis tilt.
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Early extension is the other big body shallowing movement, so the more that my
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body stands up,
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that widens the circle which creates more of a flat or shallow bottom.
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And then from the arms perspective, there's a few things that will tend to
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shallow it,
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looping or letting the club pass like this tends to shallow it out.
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Getting the club more behind, creating more shallowness, getting the club stuck
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behind
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you can shallow things out.
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If you balance that with a good body steepener, sometimes that can work, but
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oftentimes that
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can cause some problems when everything catches up.
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A phrase that I tend to use is if you build too much of this lag, especially
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with your
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short game shots, then when all that lag catches up, it can be hard to control
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the timing
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and the precision of contact or club-based control.
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And then the last big arm movement that shallows is the unhinging of the wrist.
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A lot of golfers, especially golfers who took lessons more in the 80s, 90s were
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really hammered
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into holding on to this vertical wrist angle and that can make it really hard
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to create
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enough shallowness.
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So this is looking at the big picture of how we move that contact in front of
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or behind
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the golf ball.
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Now let's take a look at toe and heel.
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So now as we look at toe and heel contact, that would be more, let's say I'm
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still hitting
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in that direction.
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You can see if I make contact with the toe of the club, then I'm making contact
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closer
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to me than where the golf ball was.
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If I make contact with the heel of the club, then if this hit the ground, it
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would be making
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contact further away.
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So fat and thin shots are controlled by making contact in this direction
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compared to the golf
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ball, and toe and heel contact is controlled by making contact in this
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direction here.
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So there are some major things that we'll explore in some of these drills, but
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major
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things that move more towards toe contact.
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So in general, something that moves me more towards toe contact, if I start
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here, is going
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to be pulling in closer to me.
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I'm going to be moving the club closer to me than where it started.
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The big ones standing up, so early extensions, so upper body getting further
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away from the
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golf ball.
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That can also happen if your upper body goes too far back that way, that
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increases the
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distance between you and the golf ball, that can make it more toe contact.
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The other big one is more of the chicken wing or the arms bending, because when
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the arms
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bend, they tend to pull the club in closer to me.
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A cousin of that is the outside in path.
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If I start to get outside in, if I kept things lengthening, the club would go
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too far deep
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into the ground, so oftentimes I'm going to narrow the radius to avoid getting
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too deep
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into the ground, and it's going to cut across and hit it on the toe.
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And then, similar to the standing up, I just wanted to add, you can be in a
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good posture,
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but if you start way on your toes and then you really fall backward into the
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heels, that
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pulls away and you can get onto the toe.
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I'd say that's the least common, but that is one that you could look at if you
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're really
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struggling with toe contact.
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Usually, it's one of these first three.
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Okay, when it comes to heel contact, it's pretty much the opposite, which would
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be the
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upper body getting either too down or moving into the toes.
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Those are two of the more pesky causes of the shank, because oftentimes you don
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't feel
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it.
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You have to look at on video and then do some awareness training or put some
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stations to
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help you get more aware that you're moving closer to the golf ball.
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That can be a powerful movement, especially in transition, but if you don't
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back up out
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of it, it causes that contact problem.
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If you get too much into out, that can cause heel contact.
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So this is where the standing up or early extension is tricky.
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If I stay in place and I early extend, or if I keep my pelvis in the same area
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and I
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early extend, that makes it more toe contact.
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But if I shift into the toes and early extend, that shallows out the path, gets
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it coming
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too much inside out and that can encourage heel contact.
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So the stand up, part of the reason why we don't like it is it can cause a
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variety of
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different contact problems.
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Okay, so too much inside out, often from standing up.
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And then the last one that's quite common is if I have too much of a hit of
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this arm,
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especially if the arms are working well away from my body, if the arms stay
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close and they
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hit, it's usually not as big a problem, but if the arms get disconnected and
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really reach
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out towards the golf ball, then that tends to throw the club head further out
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this way,
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causing heel or shank contact.
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And usually that's an issue with kind of powering this wing and using too much
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of the
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shoulders and not enough of the core.
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In this class, we're going to go over some of my favorite drills that will get
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into more
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of the advanced ideas as far as how to influence timing of your arms and the
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position of your
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body.
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And remember, when it comes to, I break the drills into a couple different
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ideas, we've
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got combo drills which more work on the pivot, work on that body being kind of
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dynamic, but
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staying in a good centered location.
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And then we have the arm drills.
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Let's start with the arm drills because those tend to be some of the bigger aha
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moments
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for a lot of my students.
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One of the reasons I would go to an arm drill is if you are really, if you're
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struggling
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with contact with every swing.
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So full swings, 10 to 2s, 9 to 3s, it's typically a release movement that's
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causing the problem.
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Even more common issue is if you'd hit better contact with the full length
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swing rather than
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a 9 to 3, it's almost always you've got some arm issues going on.
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So I do the single arm so that I can see which arm is actually causing your
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problem.
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If you train both arms to work well individually and to work well together, it
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gives you a really
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high level of consistency with your release, your arm action.
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So we go through my favorite arm drills.
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These don't fix every problem, but I'd say 90% of them.
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If you put some effort into these drills, they tend to really work up or
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improve the pattern.
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And you'll see that I've got a little asterisk next to the lead arm.
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If you only did one, just practicing 9 to 3s, a little lead arm only.
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If you get that to where you can make solid contact, it has a really big impact
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on improving
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your release.
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Then we've got combo drills, which is more, these are the easy ones to kind of
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bridge
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up.
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There's a lot of full length single arm drills, but these drills, you can work
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your way up
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closer to your full swing.
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If you do fall into that pattern where now you are making more solid contact
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with your
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9 to 3s, 10 to 2s, but then as you go to take full swings, it breaks down.
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That's where we might have to revisit or we might have to dig into your
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transition.
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And the easiest way to train the arms and the pivot together in transition is
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working
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on this delivery position.
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Lots of good ball strikers, Ben Hogan, Mo Norman, many golfers have
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demonstrated kind of getting
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into this delivery position before the release happens.
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I highly recommend golfers getting aware of what their delivery position is and
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training
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it.
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So these are my favorite more detailed drills for working on improving your low
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point control,
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either from the arm perspective or the pivot perspective or blending the two of
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them together.
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So quick summary, if you want to get solid contact, you have to master low
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point control,
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how the club and where the club is contacting the ground.
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The two big influences are your pivot location, where is your upper body in
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space, and then
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the timing or what your arm movements are.
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The geometry of this low point is all it really takes to make solid contact.
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You might not hit it far, you might not hit it exactly as straight as you want,
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but if
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you control the geometry elements, you will make solid contact.
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So in the next class, we're going to revisit the other big satisfying thing in
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golf, which
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is hitting the ball straight, so we're going to dig into the face to path and
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the path control
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required to be a really elite ball striker that complements this low point
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control.
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One quick point, if you are still continuing with the low point control and
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your ball has
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a lot of curve to it, then part of why you're struggling with low point control
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could be
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the fact that your path and your face are not aligned up for having a really
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good low
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point control.
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So typically improving your club face control, your path control, will help
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with your low
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point control, and you'll learn that in the next class.
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Okay, so now let's jump into round two.
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We're going to go through some of the details of how to influence these things.
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So in round one, when we went through low point or face control or path control
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, I was
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staying pretty general and I wanted you to be able to explore the ideas.
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Because if you come up with your own answer of how to control path, how to
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control face,
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how to get solid contact, oftentimes that can have a bigger influence on your
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confidence
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and your ability to really own the ideas and own the concepts.
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But you might be working on something and you're really struggling with it.
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Let's say you just keep hitting the ball fat or you keep topping it or you keep
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shanking
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it.
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That's where having the knowledge of the big ideas of how we can influence the
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skill that
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you're working on is really going to come in handy.
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So let's jump into revisiting low point control.
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So now this is an overhead view.
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Let's say I'm hitting a shot in that direction.
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Low point control is looking at where the club is making contact with the
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ground.
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And essentially if you want to master low point control, then I want you to be
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able to influence
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where the club hits the ground, either hitting back here, hitting the ground
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there, or along
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this stick, hitting more inside, hitting more outside, kind of like that.
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So I want to be able to use my skills to move around contact and I want to get
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really pretty
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precise.
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I want to get good control of how the club hits the ground.
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So on this first slide, we're going to take a look at moving it more, let's say
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the target
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is that way, so a little different than when I have on the slide, target is
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that way.
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How do I move it forward, backward?
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So the main things, and sometimes I will draw that, that's very similar to the
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four square
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idea we did in the path control and I'll look at how can you move, or I'll have
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my students
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try and move the contact with the ground around on that grid.
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If you get stuck, in order to move it more forward, in order to move the
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contact point
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more ahead of the golf ball, some of these are going to be desirable, things
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that you
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really can't overdo, some of these are going to be more sensitive, like if you
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overdo it,
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it's going to cause some problems, or it's going to limit how well you can do
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another
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aspect, let's put it that way.
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So I want you to understand how to move it forward, how to move it backward,
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but understand
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that you'll ideally blend some of those to create this really gradual, shallow
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brushing
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of the ground, some four inches in front of the golf ball.
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Okay, so the ones that move it forward, in this, in the stock tour swing
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program, the
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big things that move it forward, outside in path, I'm going to start with that
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one.
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The more that you, you can see if I have a contact point here, the more that I
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move this
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outside in, if the center of the circle stays in the same place, it's going to
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tend to move
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that contact point forward.
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That's what a lot of golfers do, is they have the center of their swing behind
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the ball,
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and then to avoid hitting it fat, they swing outside in.
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That helps them with solid contact, but it limits power, and it limits club
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face control.
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So we don't want a lot of this one, let's look at some of the things that we do
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more of.
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So the wipe, the wipe is more of a shifting of the circle forward, but really
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the wipe
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is more of getting the force along or more rotational.
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So it's using my body to pull along the club as opposed to just throwing the
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club, or the
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club head at the golf ball.
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So we talk about how the shoulders work in the wipe, how the core works in the
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wipe.
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Those can be great, like really big movers of this low point in getting it
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forward.
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A lot of common low handicap golfers who struggle with getting a little bit
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better
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contact, this is one of their major issues.
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Getting the body more open helps move the low point forward, keeping your
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posture angle,
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so staying, avoiding early extension, and remember your posture angle changes
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as you
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rotate through, so it goes from being flexed forwards to turning into more side
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bend,
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but that helps move the bottom of the swing forward.
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The one that I'm seeing that I don't have on here is actually having your
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weight more
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forward or more on the front foot helps move the low point forward, so I'll
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make sure to
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add that later in edit.
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More lag is similar to the wipe or what we talked about in the first level,
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which was
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delaying the timing of the arm straightening.
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So you can have lag more from the shoulder, you can have lag more from the
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elbow, you
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can have lag more in the wrist, but the more that you're delaying the straight
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ening of
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the arms, that's going to move the low point more forward.
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talk about some of the specifics of the wrist movements that move the low point
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forward.
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But in general, if I move the wrist back this way, I'm delaying the widest
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point of the
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circle, so anything that is going to move the club further back along the arc
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is going
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to have the ability to move the low point forward, anything that moves the club
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further
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down the arc is going to have the opposite effect.
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So let's talk about the big movements that move the club backward.
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They tend to be more shallowing movements, so if I had a path that was too far
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into out,
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that will tend to move the low point backward.
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In fact, a lot of golfers who have kind of the classic slice pattern where the
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clubface
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is open, swinging outside in, as they start to improve their swing plane and
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move more
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inside out, they can struggle with getting fat contact simply because of
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changing that
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outside in to inside out path.
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something else.
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So the key movements that move it backward are going to be more of this axis
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tilt or
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the Jackson 5 movement where the upper body gets behind the lower body.
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We'll talk about it, but don't confuse that just with side bend of the spine.
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You can side bend of the spine and not have a lot of axis tilt or you can side
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bend more
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from the hips and have a lot of this axis tilt.
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Early extension is the other big body shallowing movement, so the more that my
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body stands up,
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that widens the circle which creates more of a flat or shallow bottom.
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shallow it,
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looping or letting the club pass like this tends to shallow it out.
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Getting the club more behind, creating more shallowness, getting the club stuck
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behind
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you can shallow things out.
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If you balance that with a good body steepener, sometimes that can work, but
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oftentimes that
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can cause some problems when everything catches up.
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A phrase that I tend to use is if you build too much of this lag, especially
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short game shots, then when all that lag catches up, it can be hard to control
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the timing
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and the precision of contact or club-based control.
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And then the last big arm movement that shallows is the unhinging of the wrist.
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A lot of golfers, especially golfers who took lessons more in the 80s, 90s were
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really hammered
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into holding on to this vertical wrist angle and that can make it really hard
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to create
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enough shallowness.
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So this is looking at the big picture of how we move that contact in front of
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or behind
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the golf ball.
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Now let's take a look at toe and heel.
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still hitting
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in that direction.
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You can see if I make contact with the toe of the club, then I'm making contact
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closer
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to me than where the golf ball was.
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If I make contact with the heel of the club, then if this hit the ground, it
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would be making
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contact further away.
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So fat and thin shots are controlled by making contact in this direction
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compared to the golf
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ball, and toe and heel contact is controlled by making contact in this
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direction here.
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So there are some major things that we'll explore in some of these drills, but
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major
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things that move more towards toe contact.
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So in general, something that moves me more towards toe contact, if I start
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here, is going
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to be pulling in closer to me.
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I'm going to be moving the club closer to me than where it started.
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The big ones standing up, so early extensions, so upper body getting further
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away from the
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golf ball.
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That can also happen if your upper body goes too far back that way, that
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increases the
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distance between you and the golf ball, that can make it more toe contact.
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The other big one is more of the chicken wing or the arms bending, because when
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the arms
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bend, they tend to pull the club in closer to me.
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A cousin of that is the outside in path.
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If I start to get outside in, if I kept things lengthening, the club would go
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too far deep
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into the ground, so oftentimes I'm going to narrow the radius to avoid getting
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too deep
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into the ground, and it's going to cut across and hit it on the toe.
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And then, similar to the standing up, I just wanted to add, you can be in a
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good posture,
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but if you start way on your toes and then you really fall backward into the
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heels, that
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pulls away and you can get onto the toe.
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I'd say that's the least common, but that is one that you could look at if you
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're really
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struggling with toe contact.
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Usually, it's one of these first three.
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Okay, when it comes to heel contact, it's pretty much the opposite, which would
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be the
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upper body getting either too down or moving into the toes.
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Those are two of the more pesky causes of the shank, because oftentimes you don
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't feel
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it.
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You have to look at on video and then do some awareness training or put some
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stations to
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help you get more aware that you're moving closer to the golf ball.
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That can be a powerful movement, especially in transition, but if you don't
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back up out
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of it, it causes that contact problem.
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If you get too much into out, that can cause heel contact.
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So this is where the standing up or early extension is tricky.
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If I stay in place and I early extend, or if I keep my pelvis in the same area
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and I
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early extend, that makes it more toe contact.
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But if I shift into the toes and early extend, that shallows out the path, gets
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it coming
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too much inside out and that can encourage heel contact.
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So the stand up, part of the reason why we don't like it is it can cause a
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variety of
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different contact problems.
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Okay, so too much inside out, often from standing up.
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And then the last one that's quite common is if I have too much of a hit of
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this arm,
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especially if the arms are working well away from my body, if the arms stay
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close and they
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hit, it's usually not as big a problem, but if the arms get disconnected and
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really reach
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out towards the golf ball, then that tends to throw the club head further out
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this way,
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causing heel or shank contact.
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And usually that's an issue with kind of powering this wing and using too much
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of the
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shoulders and not enough of the core.
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In this class, we're going to go over some of my favorite drills that will get
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into more
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of the advanced ideas as far as how to influence timing of your arms and the
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position of your
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body.
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And remember, when it comes to, I break the drills into a couple different
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ideas, we've
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got combo drills which more work on the pivot, work on that body being kind of
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dynamic, but
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staying in a good centered location.
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And then we have the arm drills.
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Let's start with the arm drills because those tend to be some of the bigger aha
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moments
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for a lot of my students.
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One of the reasons I would go to an arm drill is if you are really, if you're
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struggling
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with contact with every swing.
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So full swings, 10 to 2s, 9 to 3s, it's typically a release movement that's
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causing the problem.
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Even more common issue is if you'd hit better contact with the full length
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swing rather than
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a 9 to 3, it's almost always you've got some arm issues going on.
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And because both hands are holding the club, they can fight each other.
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So I do the single arm so that I can see which arm is actually causing your
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problem.
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If you train both arms to work well individually and to work well together, it
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gives you a really
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high level of consistency with your release, your arm action.
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So we go through my favorite arm drills.
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These don't fix every problem, but I'd say 90% of them.
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If you put some effort into these drills, they tend to really work up or
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improve the pattern.
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And you'll see that I've got a little asterisk next to the lead arm.
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If you only did one, just practicing 9 to 3s, a little lead arm only.
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If you get that to where you can make solid contact, it has a really big impact
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on improving
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your release.
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Then we've got combo drills, which is more, these are the easy ones to kind of
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bridge
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up.
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There's a lot of full length single arm drills, but these drills, you can work
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your way up
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closer to your full swing.
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If you do fall into that pattern where now you are making more solid contact
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with your
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9 to 3s, 10 to 2s, but then as you go to take full swings, it breaks down.
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That's where we might have to revisit or we might have to dig into your
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transition.
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And the easiest way to train the arms and the pivot together in transition is
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working
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on this delivery position.
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Lots of good ball strikers, Ben Hogan, Mo Norman, many golfers have
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demonstrated kind of getting
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into this delivery position before the release happens.
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I highly recommend golfers getting aware of what their delivery position is and
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training
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it.
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So these are my favorite more detailed drills for working on improving your low
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point control,
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either from the arm perspective or the pivot perspective or blending the two of
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them together.
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So quick summary, if you want to get solid contact, you have to master low
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point control,
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how the club and where the club is contacting the ground.
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The two big influences are your pivot location, where is your upper body in
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space, and then
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the timing or what your arm movements are.
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The geometry of this low point is all it really takes to make solid contact.
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You might not hit it far, you might not hit it exactly as straight as you want,
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but if
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you control the geometry elements, you will make solid contact.
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So in the next class, we're going to revisit the other big satisfying thing in
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golf, which
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is hitting the ball straight, so we're going to dig into the face to path and
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the path control
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required to be a really elite ball striker that complements this low point
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control.
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One quick point, if you are still continuing with the low point control and
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your ball has
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a lot of curve to it, then part of why you're struggling with low point control
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could be
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the fact that your path and your face are not aligned up for having a really
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good low
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point control.
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So typically improving your club face control, your path control, will help
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with your low
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point control, and you'll learn that in the next class.
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Controlling Direction - Overview10:11
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Controlling Direction - Swing Analysis04:24
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Face awareness drill - heel/toe/square06:11
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Visualizing face and path03:02
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Ball Flight Trident06:01
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Face Awareness or Grip04:10
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Four Square Drill03:14
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Gate Drills05:42
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Delivery Path Drills06:12
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9 Shot Drill07:20