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There is more to controlling low point than just the left shoulder location.
There is a common assumption that the left shoulder controls the low-point. This is based on a double pendulum model of the golf swing. A model that has some challenges explaining some of the normal movements we see with elite golfers. A better way of looking at low-point is monitoring 2 key locations. What is the sternum doing? What are the arms doing? If you identify these two movement centers, you will have a good chance of understanding your individual low-point strategy.
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This video is factors of low point so I had a question about controlling low
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point and hitting behind the ball and talking about the left shoulder and so I
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thought it'd be a good video to help clarify what are the factors that
4
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actually control where low point is going to occur and what are some more
5
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kind of visual things that people have used that may or may not have a direct
6
00:00:25.080 --> 00:00:29.960
correlation. So one of the common ones that a lot of people tend to use is
7
00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:35.600
the left shoulder and it's largely based on this double pendulum model of left
8
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arm is straight and the wrist acts as pretty much a pendulum joint shoulder
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axis pendulum joint so you have these two pendulum joints and essentially when
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it's straight in line with that left shoulder that's going to be when it's
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the furthest away which is therefore going to be the low point. So based on
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that theory as long as the left shoulder is ahead of the golf ball like so then
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it should be very difficult for me to bottom out behind the golf ball. In
14
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practical we know that the left arm does not act as a pendulum the elbow bends
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a
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significant amount there's some linear movement happening at the shoulder so
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conceptually it doesn't quite make total sense to me and the other thing is I
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've
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seen lots of golfers who struggle with low point control who still have the
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left shoulder ahead of the golf ball so I can see where trying to kind of keep
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that left shoulder ahead of the golf ball can help maintain weight on the
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front foot or pressure on the front foot which could potentially affect low
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point
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but I think there are easier ways to look at it. So the two major pieces that I
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look for when I'm looking at how you're controlling low point is what is the
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sternum doing and what are the arms doing. So the sternum I want to look at
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the whole orientation so not just from this 2D camera like where is it in space
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but at what kind of side tilt at what kind of rotational tilt the distance
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away so how much it is backed up all those are going to have factors or
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influence the factors that control low point. The arms are a little bit trick
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ier
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and probably more relevant and more important because basically when this
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thing gets swinging at a really fast speed my arms are just going to want to
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extend out in front of kind of my sternum roughly at about a level as if I was
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playing tug-of-war so not completely out in front of the shoulder girdle but
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more just below kind of the bottom of your ribcage or zyphoid process. So when
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those arms want to extend out that's why if the sternum is pointed kind of in
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this rotational angle 30 degrees or so out in front of the golf ball then my
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arms are going to want to extend out that way as well. If my sternum is
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pointing more at the golf ball kind of like this then my arms will want to
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reach their maximum in front of sternum and then they won't want to bend as
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they
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pass my body. Part of the reason why tour pros tend to have really good low
44
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point control and they tend to have this really good kind of wide point where
45
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those hands are passing the chest is because the body has had enough rotation
46
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inside bend that the arms are slightly behind so then they don't catch up until
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somewhere out here in the follow-through and that's why the arms bend later in
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the swing where a lot of amateurs will tend to face the golf ball or pretty
49
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close to it at impact so there's no real room for the arms to stay straight
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they're going to have to start absorbing that force much sooner and
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therefore that lead arm is going to bend. But overall the sternum location is
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going to have a pretty big impact on the low point control and then the other
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factor is going to be the wrist so the arms are going to include the wrist
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which have a huge impact the elbows which have a pretty big impact and the
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shoulders both the shoulder sockets as well as the shoulder blades so I like to
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kind of group them into one general category of kind of the timing of that
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arm extension and it could be a wrist timing that gets it moving sooner it
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could be an elbow timing that gets it moving sooner and it could be a
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shoulder movement that gets it activating sooner but there's a big
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relationship between where the sternum is at impact or during the downswing and
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the timing of those arms extending so that's why usually when you're getting
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out of a pattern where you look more like this at impact and then that
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afterward to try to get more like this you will have to work on a combo of
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things being the location of the body as well as the timing of the arms and it
65
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could be the wrist it could be the elbows it could be the shoulders so I just
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kind of categorize it as the timing of the arms the earlier that the arms tend
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to fire the more the low point is going to move back and the later that the
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arms tend to fire the more that the low point is going to move forward so if I
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got to the top even if I do a good job of spinning my body like so if I really
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extend that trail arm you could see that the bottom of that swing is going to
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be
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back behind the golf ball even though my left shoulder was out in front you'd
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also see if you're paying attention that my sternum isn't quite far enough
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forward because it's very hard to have the sternum far forward and release it
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is possible or sorry and release early it is possible but it's harder to do so
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paying attention to both the timing of the arm extension and the location of
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sternum will help you control your low point a little little tip if you
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struggle
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with the timing of the arm extension so if you're you tend to delay this and
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you
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have trouble making contact there's a very good chance that you're using that
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trail arm straightening and moving the low point back to help get the club face
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pointed in the general direction of the target and so you need to work on some
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shaft rotation or the motorcycle movement before the timing of that trail arm
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is
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really going to factor in also if you start working on the motorcycle movement
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getting some shaft rotation and you still have early timing in the arm so it
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the
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shaft is more vertical and impact you're almost always going to struggle with
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big
91
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hooks because of the shaft being more vertical and impact not because of the
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amount of motorcycle that you're doing. Guys like Dustin Johnson do a ton of
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motorcycle but because of the delayed timing of their arms it works out I
94
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find that it's very hard to overdo the motorcycle if you have a good control of
95
00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.040
where your body is in good control or more importantly good control of the
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timing of your arm extension so if you're struggling with your low point
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control check the sternum check the timing of the arm straightening if one of
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those two seems more out than the other take a look at some of the details so
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you
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can figure out exactly what you need to do to help your correct your low point
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control
1
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This video is factors of low point so I had a question about controlling low
2
00:00:06.980 --> 00:00:11.480
point and hitting behind the ball and talking about the left shoulder and so I
3
00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:16.080
thought it'd be a good video to help clarify what are the factors that
4
00:00:16.080 --> 00:00:20.640
actually control where low point is going to occur and what are some more
5
00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:25.080
kind of visual things that people have used that may or may not have a direct
6
00:00:25.080 --> 00:00:29.960
correlation. So one of the common ones that a lot of people tend to use is
7
00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:35.600
the left shoulder and it's largely based on this double pendulum model of left
8
00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:42.080
arm is straight and the wrist acts as pretty much a pendulum joint shoulder
9
00:00:42.080 --> 00:00:46.480
axis pendulum joint so you have these two pendulum joints and essentially when
10
00:00:46.480 --> 00:00:49.720
it's straight in line with that left shoulder that's going to be when it's
11
00:00:49.720 --> 00:00:54.320
the furthest away which is therefore going to be the low point. So based on
12
00:00:54.320 --> 00:01:00.080
that theory as long as the left shoulder is ahead of the golf ball like so then
13
00:01:00.080 --> 00:01:06.520
it should be very difficult for me to bottom out behind the golf ball. In
14
00:01:06.520 --> 00:01:13.690
practical we know that the left arm does not act as a pendulum the elbow bends
15
00:01:13.690 --> 00:01:13.800
a
16
00:01:13.800 --> 00:01:19.040
significant amount there's some linear movement happening at the shoulder so
17
00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:24.360
conceptually it doesn't quite make total sense to me and the other thing is I
18
00:01:24.360 --> 00:01:24.480
've
19
00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:28.800
seen lots of golfers who struggle with low point control who still have the
20
00:01:28.800 --> 00:01:35.640
left shoulder ahead of the golf ball so I can see where trying to kind of keep
21
00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:39.000
that left shoulder ahead of the golf ball can help maintain weight on the
22
00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:42.720
front foot or pressure on the front foot which could potentially affect low
23
00:01:42.720 --> 00:01:43.040
point
24
00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:49.520
but I think there are easier ways to look at it. So the two major pieces that I
25
00:01:49.520 --> 00:01:54.040
look for when I'm looking at how you're controlling low point is what is the
26
00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:58.440
sternum doing and what are the arms doing. So the sternum I want to look at
27
00:01:58.440 --> 00:02:04.960
the whole orientation so not just from this 2D camera like where is it in space
28
00:02:04.960 --> 00:02:11.560
but at what kind of side tilt at what kind of rotational tilt the distance
29
00:02:11.560 --> 00:02:16.960
away so how much it is backed up all those are going to have factors or
30
00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:21.830
influence the factors that control low point. The arms are a little bit trick
31
00:02:21.830 --> 00:02:22.000
ier
32
00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:26.880
and probably more relevant and more important because basically when this
33
00:02:26.880 --> 00:02:32.040
thing gets swinging at a really fast speed my arms are just going to want to
34
00:02:32.040 --> 00:02:37.640
extend out in front of kind of my sternum roughly at about a level as if I was
35
00:02:37.640 --> 00:02:42.000
playing tug-of-war so not completely out in front of the shoulder girdle but
36
00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:49.120
more just below kind of the bottom of your ribcage or zyphoid process. So when
37
00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:54.640
those arms want to extend out that's why if the sternum is pointed kind of in
38
00:02:54.640 --> 00:02:58.800
this rotational angle 30 degrees or so out in front of the golf ball then my
39
00:02:58.800 --> 00:03:03.040
arms are going to want to extend out that way as well. If my sternum is
40
00:03:03.040 --> 00:03:07.480
pointing more at the golf ball kind of like this then my arms will want to
41
00:03:07.480 --> 00:03:11.040
reach their maximum in front of sternum and then they won't want to bend as
42
00:03:11.040 --> 00:03:11.200
they
43
00:03:11.200 --> 00:03:15.720
pass my body. Part of the reason why tour pros tend to have really good low
44
00:03:15.720 --> 00:03:20.320
point control and they tend to have this really good kind of wide point where
45
00:03:20.320 --> 00:03:24.960
those hands are passing the chest is because the body has had enough rotation
46
00:03:24.960 --> 00:03:29.480
inside bend that the arms are slightly behind so then they don't catch up until
47
00:03:29.480 --> 00:03:34.520
somewhere out here in the follow-through and that's why the arms bend later in
48
00:03:34.520 --> 00:03:39.080
the swing where a lot of amateurs will tend to face the golf ball or pretty
49
00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:44.120
close to it at impact so there's no real room for the arms to stay straight
50
00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.120
they're going to have to start absorbing that force much sooner and
51
00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:54.400
therefore that lead arm is going to bend. But overall the sternum location is
52
00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:58.880
going to have a pretty big impact on the low point control and then the other
53
00:03:58.880 --> 00:04:05.680
factor is going to be the wrist so the arms are going to include the wrist
54
00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:09.440
which have a huge impact the elbows which have a pretty big impact and the
55
00:04:09.440 --> 00:04:16.280
shoulders both the shoulder sockets as well as the shoulder blades so I like to
56
00:04:16.280 --> 00:04:21.480
kind of group them into one general category of kind of the timing of that
57
00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:26.640
arm extension and it could be a wrist timing that gets it moving sooner it
58
00:04:26.640 --> 00:04:30.400
could be an elbow timing that gets it moving sooner and it could be a
59
00:04:30.400 --> 00:04:35.200
shoulder movement that gets it activating sooner but there's a big
60
00:04:35.200 --> 00:04:40.440
relationship between where the sternum is at impact or during the downswing and
61
00:04:40.440 --> 00:04:45.720
the timing of those arms extending so that's why usually when you're getting
62
00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:50.080
out of a pattern where you look more like this at impact and then that
63
00:04:50.080 --> 00:04:54.760
afterward to try to get more like this you will have to work on a combo of
64
00:04:54.760 --> 00:05:01.840
things being the location of the body as well as the timing of the arms and it
65
00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:05.120
could be the wrist it could be the elbows it could be the shoulders so I just
66
00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:09.960
kind of categorize it as the timing of the arms the earlier that the arms tend
67
00:05:09.960 --> 00:05:15.360
to fire the more the low point is going to move back and the later that the
68
00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.840
arms tend to fire the more that the low point is going to move forward so if I
69
00:05:19.840 --> 00:05:24.280
got to the top even if I do a good job of spinning my body like so if I really
70
00:05:24.280 --> 00:05:28.520
extend that trail arm you could see that the bottom of that swing is going to
71
00:05:28.520 --> 00:05:28.660
be
72
00:05:28.660 --> 00:05:33.920
back behind the golf ball even though my left shoulder was out in front you'd
73
00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:38.200
also see if you're paying attention that my sternum isn't quite far enough
74
00:05:38.200 --> 00:05:43.520
forward because it's very hard to have the sternum far forward and release it
75
00:05:43.520 --> 00:05:49.960
is possible or sorry and release early it is possible but it's harder to do so
76
00:05:49.960 --> 00:05:56.520
paying attention to both the timing of the arm extension and the location of
77
00:05:56.520 --> 00:06:00.200
sternum will help you control your low point a little little tip if you
78
00:06:00.200 --> 00:06:00.720
struggle
79
00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:05.690
with the timing of the arm extension so if you're you tend to delay this and
80
00:06:05.690 --> 00:06:05.720
you
81
00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:09.160
have trouble making contact there's a very good chance that you're using that
82
00:06:09.160 --> 00:06:13.000
trail arm straightening and moving the low point back to help get the club face
83
00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:16.400
pointed in the general direction of the target and so you need to work on some
84
00:06:16.400 --> 00:06:21.600
shaft rotation or the motorcycle movement before the timing of that trail arm
85
00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:22.040
is
86
00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:29.160
really going to factor in also if you start working on the motorcycle movement
87
00:06:29.160 --> 00:06:33.820
getting some shaft rotation and you still have early timing in the arm so it
88
00:06:33.820 --> 00:06:34.240
the
89
00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:38.080
shaft is more vertical and impact you're almost always going to struggle with
90
00:06:38.080 --> 00:06:38.360
big
91
00:06:38.360 --> 00:06:43.760
hooks because of the shaft being more vertical and impact not because of the
92
00:06:43.760 --> 00:06:49.400
amount of motorcycle that you're doing. Guys like Dustin Johnson do a ton of
93
00:06:49.400 --> 00:06:54.440
motorcycle but because of the delayed timing of their arms it works out I
94
00:06:54.440 --> 00:07:02.120
find that it's very hard to overdo the motorcycle if you have a good control of
95
00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:06.040
where your body is in good control or more importantly good control of the
96
00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.800
timing of your arm extension so if you're struggling with your low point
97
00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:13.720
control check the sternum check the timing of the arm straightening if one of
98
00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:17.360
those two seems more out than the other take a look at some of the details so
99
00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:17.440
you
100
00:07:17.440 --> 00:07:21.580
can figure out exactly what you need to do to help your correct your low point
101
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control
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