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What Is Supination?

This insight video discusses supination by helping you understand the difference between open and closed chain supination. I also walk you through some common patterns during the swing.

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This insight video discusses supination by helping you understand the difference between open and closed chain supination. I also walk you through some common patterns during the swing.

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Video Transcript
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And this golf smart insight, we're going to talk about supination.

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So there's been a lot of talk in the Facebook chat rooms about the importance

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of supination.

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And so I thought I'd make a quick video to kind of help clarify what the heck

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we're talking

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about when we're talking about supination.

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So as an easy 3D, I've got some pins rubber banded to my forearm.

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So I kind of look like so.

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Now if I have my arm straight out in front of me or off to my side, this is

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essentially

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where we digitize when we are looking at 3D graphs of supination.

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Now you can see that these two pins are roughly parallel to each other.

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This would be my neutral.

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So when I supinate, I'm going to have the black pen or my wrist pen pointed off

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to

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the right of the red pen or my elbow pen.

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This is supination.

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If I was to rotate palm down, just like so, the black pen is pointing off to

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the left

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of my red pen from my perspective, this would be pronation.

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So any time the black pen is pointed to the right of the red pen, that's going

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to be supination.

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Which means this is open chain, I could also do this.

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So if I do that, the black pen is now pointing to the right of the red pen.

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I just supinated about the same amount as when I did it here.

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So that's close chain supination, that's close chain pronation where basically

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my wrist

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is not moving and my elbow is.

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So it's not quite as easy as it appears because you have to look at where the

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elbow and the

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wrist are in relationship to each other to see how much supination has happened

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.

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So now let's go through some of the actual in golf positions.

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So if I was to get into my setup position, which looks something like this, you

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can see

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that the black pen is slightly to the right, so I'm slightly supinated in my

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setup position.

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And then I go up to the top of the swing, you can turn it right there and you

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can see that

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the black pen is to the left of this.

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So I've pronated probably about 40 degrees or so, I don't have a ton.

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Now I'm going to go down towards what I consider delivery position.

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And if I bring this back up, you can see that the black pen is to the right.

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So I went from there at the top of the swing to there down in delivery position

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.

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And then as I continue to go through impact, I get a little bit pronated.

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And then as I go through to my finish, I get very much pronated.

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So that's looking at the lead risk now instead of switching this, we'll just

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00:02:28.040 --> 00:02:28.400
pretend I'm

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going to swing lefty.

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00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:37.250
So there's a kind of a wide range of where this pronation, supination, but a

52
00:02:37.250 --> 00:02:37.960
lot of guys

53
00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:41.590
are a little bit supinated because that lead elbow is going to be pointing in

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the direction

55
00:02:42.440 --> 00:02:44.800
of the target instead of in towards me.

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00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:50.090
So there I'm slightly supinated, go up towards the top of the swing, I've

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clearly pronated,

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it's pointing off to the left.

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And as I come down, I'm much more pronated than I was at setup.

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00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:06.230
And then that's going to allow for this fast speed of supination while I'm

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00:03:06.230 --> 00:03:06.880
going to be

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00:03:06.880 --> 00:03:07.880
more pronated.

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It's kind of the same as I can extend my legs very quickly when I go to jump,

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even though

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my legs haven't straightened yet.

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00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:21.410
So when we come down into this position, if I'm in good delivery position, my

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00:03:21.410 --> 00:03:22.000
body's

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in the right position.

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I've got good abduction of this trail arm or abduction of this trail arm, sorry

70
00:03:27.940 --> 00:03:28.280
.

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That's going to allow me to supinate and not have the club face get too closed

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00:03:33.690 --> 00:03:34.120
or have

73
00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:35.960
the path go too far left.

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00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:39.830
So it allows me to have a good shallow angle of attack as well as to really

75
00:03:39.830 --> 00:03:40.640
extend those

76
00:03:40.640 --> 00:03:45.370
arms through the shot, which gives me a very wide arc width, which helps with

77
00:03:45.370 --> 00:03:46.640
my consistency.

78
00:03:46.640 --> 00:03:52.260
So hopefully this video helps you clarify when you're looking at supination,

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00:03:52.260 --> 00:03:52.920
and then

80
00:03:52.920 --> 00:03:58.210
of course why we want to have supination as a whole different animal, so to

81
00:03:58.210 --> 00:03:58.920
speak.

82
00:03:58.920 --> 00:04:03.390
But this should at least help you clarify when you're looking at someone on

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00:04:03.390 --> 00:04:04.000
video, give

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00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.560
you a little bit better guess as to, well, are they pronated?

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00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:07.560
Are they supinated?

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00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:09.880
There's kind of an easy reference and easy way for you to look at it.

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What Is Supination?

This insight video discusses supination by helping you understand the difference between open and closed chain supination. I also walk you through some common patterns during the swing.

Show more

This insight video discusses supination by helping you understand the difference between open and closed chain supination. I also walk you through some common patterns during the swing.

Hide
Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.320
And this golf smart insight, we're going to talk about supination.

2
00:00:05.320 --> 00:00:10.570
So there's been a lot of talk in the Facebook chat rooms about the importance

3
00:00:10.570 --> 00:00:11.680
of supination.

4
00:00:11.680 --> 00:00:15.160
And so I thought I'd make a quick video to kind of help clarify what the heck

5
00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:15.800
we're talking

6
00:00:15.800 --> 00:00:17.520
about when we're talking about supination.

7
00:00:17.520 --> 00:00:22.360
So as an easy 3D, I've got some pins rubber banded to my forearm.

8
00:00:22.360 --> 00:00:24.040
So I kind of look like so.

9
00:00:24.040 --> 00:00:28.080
Now if I have my arm straight out in front of me or off to my side, this is

10
00:00:28.080 --> 00:00:28.880
essentially

11
00:00:28.880 --> 00:00:33.440
where we digitize when we are looking at 3D graphs of supination.

12
00:00:33.440 --> 00:00:37.840
Now you can see that these two pins are roughly parallel to each other.

13
00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:39.880
This would be my neutral.

14
00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:45.690
So when I supinate, I'm going to have the black pen or my wrist pen pointed off

15
00:00:45.690 --> 00:00:45.880
to

16
00:00:45.880 --> 00:00:49.440
the right of the red pen or my elbow pen.

17
00:00:49.440 --> 00:00:50.440
This is supination.

18
00:00:50.440 --> 00:00:55.190
If I was to rotate palm down, just like so, the black pen is pointing off to

19
00:00:55.190 --> 00:00:55.880
the left

20
00:00:55.880 --> 00:01:00.480
of my red pen from my perspective, this would be pronation.

21
00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:05.010
So any time the black pen is pointed to the right of the red pen, that's going

22
00:01:05.010 --> 00:01:07.200
to be supination.

23
00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:11.480
Which means this is open chain, I could also do this.

24
00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:15.720
So if I do that, the black pen is now pointing to the right of the red pen.

25
00:01:15.720 --> 00:01:20.200
I just supinated about the same amount as when I did it here.

26
00:01:20.200 --> 00:01:24.340
So that's close chain supination, that's close chain pronation where basically

27
00:01:24.340 --> 00:01:24.840
my wrist

28
00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.520
is not moving and my elbow is.

29
00:01:27.520 --> 00:01:31.500
So it's not quite as easy as it appears because you have to look at where the

30
00:01:31.500 --> 00:01:32.360
elbow and the

31
00:01:32.360 --> 00:01:36.610
wrist are in relationship to each other to see how much supination has happened

32
00:01:36.610 --> 00:01:36.880
.

33
00:01:36.880 --> 00:01:40.520
So now let's go through some of the actual in golf positions.

34
00:01:40.520 --> 00:01:44.960
So if I was to get into my setup position, which looks something like this, you

35
00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:45.400
can see

36
00:01:45.400 --> 00:01:50.650
that the black pen is slightly to the right, so I'm slightly supinated in my

37
00:01:50.650 --> 00:01:51.640
setup position.

38
00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:55.270
And then I go up to the top of the swing, you can turn it right there and you

39
00:01:55.270 --> 00:01:56.000
can see that

40
00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:58.040
the black pen is to the left of this.

41
00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:03.280
So I've pronated probably about 40 degrees or so, I don't have a ton.

42
00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:06.520
Now I'm going to go down towards what I consider delivery position.

43
00:02:06.520 --> 00:02:10.240
And if I bring this back up, you can see that the black pen is to the right.

44
00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.130
So I went from there at the top of the swing to there down in delivery position

45
00:02:15.130 --> 00:02:15.400
.

46
00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:20.080
And then as I continue to go through impact, I get a little bit pronated.

47
00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:24.160
And then as I go through to my finish, I get very much pronated.

48
00:02:24.160 --> 00:02:28.040
So that's looking at the lead risk now instead of switching this, we'll just

49
00:02:28.040 --> 00:02:28.400
pretend I'm

50
00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.960
going to swing lefty.

51
00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:37.250
So there's a kind of a wide range of where this pronation, supination, but a

52
00:02:37.250 --> 00:02:37.960
lot of guys

53
00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:41.590
are a little bit supinated because that lead elbow is going to be pointing in

54
00:02:41.590 --> 00:02:42.440
the direction

55
00:02:42.440 --> 00:02:44.800
of the target instead of in towards me.

56
00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:50.090
So there I'm slightly supinated, go up towards the top of the swing, I've

57
00:02:50.090 --> 00:02:51.540
clearly pronated,

58
00:02:51.540 --> 00:02:53.880
it's pointing off to the left.

59
00:02:53.880 --> 00:03:01.960
And as I come down, I'm much more pronated than I was at setup.

60
00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:06.230
And then that's going to allow for this fast speed of supination while I'm

61
00:03:06.230 --> 00:03:06.880
going to be

62
00:03:06.880 --> 00:03:07.880
more pronated.

63
00:03:07.880 --> 00:03:13.080
It's kind of the same as I can extend my legs very quickly when I go to jump,

64
00:03:13.080 --> 00:03:13.640
even though

65
00:03:13.640 --> 00:03:15.560
my legs haven't straightened yet.

66
00:03:15.560 --> 00:03:21.410
So when we come down into this position, if I'm in good delivery position, my

67
00:03:21.410 --> 00:03:22.000
body's

68
00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:23.160
in the right position.

69
00:03:23.160 --> 00:03:27.940
I've got good abduction of this trail arm or abduction of this trail arm, sorry

70
00:03:27.940 --> 00:03:28.280
.

71
00:03:28.280 --> 00:03:33.690
That's going to allow me to supinate and not have the club face get too closed

72
00:03:33.690 --> 00:03:34.120
or have

73
00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:35.960
the path go too far left.

74
00:03:35.960 --> 00:03:39.830
So it allows me to have a good shallow angle of attack as well as to really

75
00:03:39.830 --> 00:03:40.640
extend those

76
00:03:40.640 --> 00:03:45.370
arms through the shot, which gives me a very wide arc width, which helps with

77
00:03:45.370 --> 00:03:46.640
my consistency.

78
00:03:46.640 --> 00:03:52.260
So hopefully this video helps you clarify when you're looking at supination,

79
00:03:52.260 --> 00:03:52.920
and then

80
00:03:52.920 --> 00:03:58.210
of course why we want to have supination as a whole different animal, so to

81
00:03:58.210 --> 00:03:58.920
speak.

82
00:03:58.920 --> 00:04:03.390
But this should at least help you clarify when you're looking at someone on

83
00:04:03.390 --> 00:04:04.000
video, give

84
00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.560
you a little bit better guess as to, well, are they pronated?

85
00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:07.560
Are they supinated?

86
00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:09.880
There's kind of an easy reference and easy way for you to look at it.
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