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Why Tiger Woods Struggles with His Driver Off the Tee
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Identify key factors affecting consistency in your driver swing
- Recognize how swing path and low point control impact your shots
- Learn to assess your own swing for better accuracy off the tee
In this video, we analyze the reasons behind Tiger Woods' difficulties with the driver and what factors may be affecting his performance. Understanding these issues can help you identify similar challenges in your own game.
Video Transcript
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In this analysis video, we discussed the member question, why can't Tiger hit a
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fairway with
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the driver? So, Tiger has had, I'd say, better than expected season. He's doing
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great with
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his iron play. His putting is really come around, but he still seems to
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struggle with
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the driver. In this video, I'm going to talk to you about one or two ideas that
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might contribute
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to why Tiger struggles so much off the tee.
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Whenever I'm addressing consistency, there are three main factors that I look
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for. One
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is the low point control from the face-on video. We're basically looking at the
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height
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of the club down at the ground. Here you can see he's got the club close to the
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height
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of the golf ball for a relatively long period of time. So, low point control
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might not be
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the biggest reason why you would struggle with the driver. For many amateurs,
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it will
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either come down from a too high a position or it will come up too quickly
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leading to
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topping the ball or hitting it really low on the face.
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The second area of consistency that I look at is the swing plane or the rough
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path of
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the club. Now, a guesstimate you can use is if you take the swing to impact and
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then
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freeze it, you can draw a line up the shaft and that will roughly give you the
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shaft plane
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an impact and then you can kind of see how close he is with the hands and the
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club on
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both sides of the ball. You'd have to have the perfect camera angle but you can
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see from
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this view that the path does appear to be slightly into out and it appears to
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be following
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a relatively good path as it relates to the driver. So, it doesn't look like
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low point,
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it doesn't look like path or is main issues which lets us think that possibly
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the third
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one is going to be an issue. The third main issue is looking at the face to
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path relationship
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and basically looking at the timing of how he rotates the club face. So now, if
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we get
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him to roughly shaft parallel here, the club face is not in an overly position
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or overly
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open position and it's not in a terribly close position. He really can do a lot
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from
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where the club is here. But now, as we come down, you can see through these few
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frames
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through here the club is still pointing well out to the right of the target
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which many
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more consistent drivers of the golf ball would have the club face pointing a
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little
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bit closer towards the golf ball or towards the target and not have to rotate
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it quite
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as fast down at the bottom. So one possible reason Tiger struggles off the
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T is he struggles with closing the club face too late in the downswing. Most of
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the amateurs
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who I work with who have this pattern and many pros who have this pattern do
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struggle
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with bigger misses off the T and often struggle with two way misses. Now, the
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next question
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I always get is why is that a bigger problem with the driver than it is with
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the iron?
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But before we investigate that, let's take a quick look at his iron play. Okay,
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so now,
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over on the right, we have a swing vision from the memorial tournament and we
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'll compare
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it to a driver from roughly around the same time of the year. So now, if we get
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him down
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to that chef parallel checkpoint with the iron, you can see that the club faces
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in a
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little bit more closed or turned down position. That by itself isn't going to
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make us more
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consistent, but it could mean that we don't have to close it quite as
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aggressively late.
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And now if we get the club to about the same distance before impact, so
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somewhere kind
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of in this zone here, you can see that the club face is pointing more at the
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golf ball
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or closer to the target than it is over here with the driver. Now, we don't
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know what shots
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he's hitting with these two, but if you look at some of his swings with the
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driver throughout
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the years, you will see that this is a common pattern here where the club face
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is open late.
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And with his iron play, this is more of the common pattern. He tends to get it
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closed
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a little bit sooner. Now, we just have to speculate as to why that happens.
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Perhaps it's the way
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he swings at it harder with the driver that causes the face to get open.
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Perhaps it's
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a waiting of the club in his hands that he feels when in order to swing up on
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the ball,
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he has a hard time doing so with the club face feeling closed. Who knows, but
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this would
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certainly be one area that he could investigate since it does contribute to the
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fact that
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he struggles more with hitting fairways off the tape. Now, let's say you have
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this position
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here with an iron as well as a driver, but you mainly struggle with accuracy
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problems
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with the driver. Well, that can happen for a couple different reasons. One, it
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's often
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easier to close the club face late by straightening the trail arm and kind of
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flipping the wrist.
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And it's often easier to do that if you are a little bit ahead of the golf ball
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or swinging
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down on it because of a little bit of a forward lunge. That pattern of hitting
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down with a
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little forward lunge tends to be more repeatable with irons than it does with
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driver. The second
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answer could be just the fact that the club is longer. And when the club is
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longer, it
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has more resistance to change because it will be moving faster. And when the
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club has more
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resistance to change, it's easier to control if you can get it squared up
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sooner. I use
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the example of imagine you were playing badminton. And instead of playing badm
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inton with a normal
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racket, which is quite light and which you can square up with just a little
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flick of
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the wrist, imagine if I gave you a badminton racket that weighed, let's say, 10
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pounds.
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It would change your strategy of how you'd have to play. You'd have to get in
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position
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earlier so that you could have the badminton racket going on the path that you
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wanted
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with a face pointing in the right direction because you wouldn't be able to
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change it
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so quickly down at the bottom or right before impact. It's one of my theories
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based on talking
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with a few golf science guys that that becomes more of an issue when you're
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swinging a longer
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club like a driver than it does with a shorter club, which leads to why a lot
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of golfers
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who have a club face that's open struggle more off the tee than they do with
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their iron
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play. One thing that I've noticed is that golfers who tend to swing at it with
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a little
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bit more ease or rhythm tend to be able to recover better from that open club
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face position.
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Now just so you can see that this is not something new in his game, here we
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have two
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swings, one from 2008 over on the left and one from 2013 over on the right. You
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'll see
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he has the club face a little bit more closed in this one than he does in that
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one. But
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as we start to approach the golf ball you can see the club face is still well
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right
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of where the fairway is there and you can see that this one will not quite as
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dramatic
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is still pointing more off to the right than it is currently. So this seems to
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be a pattern
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that he has struggled with which could explain why he struggles more off the
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tee. But it's
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hard to mess with anything when you are one of the best iron players have the
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great short
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game and the mental game to win as much as he had even with having an accuracy
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deficiency
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off the tee.
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In this analysis video, we discussed the member question, why can't Tiger hit a
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fairway with
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the driver? So, Tiger has had, I'd say, better than expected season. He's doing
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great with
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his iron play. His putting is really come around, but he still seems to
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struggle with
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the driver. In this video, I'm going to talk to you about one or two ideas that
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might contribute
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to why Tiger struggles so much off the tee.
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Whenever I'm addressing consistency, there are three main factors that I look
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for. One
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is the low point control from the face-on video. We're basically looking at the
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height
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of the club down at the ground. Here you can see he's got the club close to the
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height
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of the golf ball for a relatively long period of time. So, low point control
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might not be
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the biggest reason why you would struggle with the driver. For many amateurs,
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it will
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either come down from a too high a position or it will come up too quickly
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leading to
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topping the ball or hitting it really low on the face.
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The second area of consistency that I look at is the swing plane or the rough
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path of
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the club. Now, a guesstimate you can use is if you take the swing to impact and
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then
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freeze it, you can draw a line up the shaft and that will roughly give you the
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shaft plane
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an impact and then you can kind of see how close he is with the hands and the
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club on
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both sides of the ball. You'd have to have the perfect camera angle but you can
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see from
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this view that the path does appear to be slightly into out and it appears to
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be following
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a relatively good path as it relates to the driver. So, it doesn't look like
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low point,
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it doesn't look like path or is main issues which lets us think that possibly
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the third
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one is going to be an issue. The third main issue is looking at the face to
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path relationship
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and basically looking at the timing of how he rotates the club face. So now, if
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we get
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him to roughly shaft parallel here, the club face is not in an overly position
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or overly
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open position and it's not in a terribly close position. He really can do a lot
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from
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where the club is here. But now, as we come down, you can see through these few
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frames
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through here the club is still pointing well out to the right of the target
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which many
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more consistent drivers of the golf ball would have the club face pointing a
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little
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bit closer towards the golf ball or towards the target and not have to rotate
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it quite
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as fast down at the bottom. So one possible reason Tiger struggles off the
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T is he struggles with closing the club face too late in the downswing. Most of
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the amateurs
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who I work with who have this pattern and many pros who have this pattern do
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struggle
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with bigger misses off the T and often struggle with two way misses. Now, the
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next question
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I always get is why is that a bigger problem with the driver than it is with
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the iron?
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But before we investigate that, let's take a quick look at his iron play. Okay,
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so now,
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over on the right, we have a swing vision from the memorial tournament and we
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'll compare
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it to a driver from roughly around the same time of the year. So now, if we get
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him down
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to that chef parallel checkpoint with the iron, you can see that the club faces
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in a
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little bit more closed or turned down position. That by itself isn't going to
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make us more
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consistent, but it could mean that we don't have to close it quite as
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aggressively late.
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And now if we get the club to about the same distance before impact, so
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somewhere kind
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of in this zone here, you can see that the club face is pointing more at the
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golf ball
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or closer to the target than it is over here with the driver. Now, we don't
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know what shots
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he's hitting with these two, but if you look at some of his swings with the
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driver throughout
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the years, you will see that this is a common pattern here where the club face
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is open late.
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And with his iron play, this is more of the common pattern. He tends to get it
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closed
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a little bit sooner. Now, we just have to speculate as to why that happens.
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Perhaps it's the way
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he swings at it harder with the driver that causes the face to get open.
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Perhaps it's
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a waiting of the club in his hands that he feels when in order to swing up on
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the ball,
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he has a hard time doing so with the club face feeling closed. Who knows, but
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this would
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certainly be one area that he could investigate since it does contribute to the
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fact that
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he struggles more with hitting fairways off the tape. Now, let's say you have
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this position
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here with an iron as well as a driver, but you mainly struggle with accuracy
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problems
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with the driver. Well, that can happen for a couple different reasons. One, it
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's often
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easier to close the club face late by straightening the trail arm and kind of
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flipping the wrist.
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And it's often easier to do that if you are a little bit ahead of the golf ball
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or swinging
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down on it because of a little bit of a forward lunge. That pattern of hitting
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down with a
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little forward lunge tends to be more repeatable with irons than it does with
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driver. The second
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answer could be just the fact that the club is longer. And when the club is
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longer, it
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has more resistance to change because it will be moving faster. And when the
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club has more
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resistance to change, it's easier to control if you can get it squared up
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sooner. I use
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the example of imagine you were playing badminton. And instead of playing badm
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inton with a normal
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racket, which is quite light and which you can square up with just a little
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flick of
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the wrist, imagine if I gave you a badminton racket that weighed, let's say, 10
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pounds.
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It would change your strategy of how you'd have to play. You'd have to get in
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position
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earlier so that you could have the badminton racket going on the path that you
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wanted
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with a face pointing in the right direction because you wouldn't be able to
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change it
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so quickly down at the bottom or right before impact. It's one of my theories
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based on talking
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with a few golf science guys that that becomes more of an issue when you're
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swinging a longer
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club like a driver than it does with a shorter club, which leads to why a lot
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of golfers
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who have a club face that's open struggle more off the tee than they do with
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their iron
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play. One thing that I've noticed is that golfers who tend to swing at it with
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a little
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bit more ease or rhythm tend to be able to recover better from that open club
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face position.
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Now just so you can see that this is not something new in his game, here we
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have two
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swings, one from 2008 over on the left and one from 2013 over on the right. You
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'll see
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he has the club face a little bit more closed in this one than he does in that
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one. But
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as we start to approach the golf ball you can see the club face is still well
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right
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of where the fairway is there and you can see that this one will not quite as
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dramatic
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is still pointing more off to the right than it is currently. So this seems to
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be a pattern
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that he has struggled with which could explain why he struggles more off the
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tee. But it's
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hard to mess with anything when you are one of the best iron players have the
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great short
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game and the mental game to win as much as he had even with having an accuracy
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deficiency
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off the tee.
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Why Tiger Woods Struggles with His Driver Off the Tee
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Identify key factors affecting consistency in your driver swing
- Recognize how swing path and low point control impact your shots
- Learn to assess your own swing for better accuracy off the tee
In this video, we analyze the reasons behind Tiger Woods' difficulties with the driver and what factors may be affecting his performance. Understanding these issues can help you identify similar challenges in your own game.
Video Transcript
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In this analysis video, we discussed the member question, why can't Tiger hit a
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fairway with
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the driver? So, Tiger has had, I'd say, better than expected season. He's doing
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great with
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his iron play. His putting is really come around, but he still seems to
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struggle with
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the driver. In this video, I'm going to talk to you about one or two ideas that
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might contribute
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to why Tiger struggles so much off the tee.
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Whenever I'm addressing consistency, there are three main factors that I look
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for. One
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is the low point control from the face-on video. We're basically looking at the
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height
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of the club down at the ground. Here you can see he's got the club close to the
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height
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of the golf ball for a relatively long period of time. So, low point control
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might not be
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the biggest reason why you would struggle with the driver. For many amateurs,
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it will
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either come down from a too high a position or it will come up too quickly
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leading to
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topping the ball or hitting it really low on the face.
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The second area of consistency that I look at is the swing plane or the rough
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path of
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the club. Now, a guesstimate you can use is if you take the swing to impact and
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then
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freeze it, you can draw a line up the shaft and that will roughly give you the
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shaft plane
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an impact and then you can kind of see how close he is with the hands and the
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club on
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both sides of the ball. You'd have to have the perfect camera angle but you can
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see from
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this view that the path does appear to be slightly into out and it appears to
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be following
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a relatively good path as it relates to the driver. So, it doesn't look like
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low point,
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it doesn't look like path or is main issues which lets us think that possibly
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the third
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one is going to be an issue. The third main issue is looking at the face to
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path relationship
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and basically looking at the timing of how he rotates the club face. So now, if
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we get
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him to roughly shaft parallel here, the club face is not in an overly position
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or overly
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open position and it's not in a terribly close position. He really can do a lot
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from
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where the club is here. But now, as we come down, you can see through these few
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frames
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through here the club is still pointing well out to the right of the target
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which many
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more consistent drivers of the golf ball would have the club face pointing a
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little
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bit closer towards the golf ball or towards the target and not have to rotate
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it quite
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as fast down at the bottom. So one possible reason Tiger struggles off the
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T is he struggles with closing the club face too late in the downswing. Most of
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the amateurs
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who I work with who have this pattern and many pros who have this pattern do
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struggle
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with bigger misses off the T and often struggle with two way misses. Now, the
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next question
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I always get is why is that a bigger problem with the driver than it is with
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the iron?
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But before we investigate that, let's take a quick look at his iron play. Okay,
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so now,
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over on the right, we have a swing vision from the memorial tournament and we
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'll compare
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it to a driver from roughly around the same time of the year. So now, if we get
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him down
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to that chef parallel checkpoint with the iron, you can see that the club faces
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in a
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little bit more closed or turned down position. That by itself isn't going to
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make us more
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consistent, but it could mean that we don't have to close it quite as
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aggressively late.
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And now if we get the club to about the same distance before impact, so
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somewhere kind
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of in this zone here, you can see that the club face is pointing more at the
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golf ball
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or closer to the target than it is over here with the driver. Now, we don't
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know what shots
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he's hitting with these two, but if you look at some of his swings with the
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driver throughout
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the years, you will see that this is a common pattern here where the club face
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is open late.
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And with his iron play, this is more of the common pattern. He tends to get it
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closed
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a little bit sooner. Now, we just have to speculate as to why that happens.
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Perhaps it's the way
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he swings at it harder with the driver that causes the face to get open.
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Perhaps it's
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a waiting of the club in his hands that he feels when in order to swing up on
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the ball,
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he has a hard time doing so with the club face feeling closed. Who knows, but
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this would
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certainly be one area that he could investigate since it does contribute to the
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fact that
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he struggles more with hitting fairways off the tape. Now, let's say you have
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this position
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here with an iron as well as a driver, but you mainly struggle with accuracy
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problems
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with the driver. Well, that can happen for a couple different reasons. One, it
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's often
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easier to close the club face late by straightening the trail arm and kind of
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flipping the wrist.
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And it's often easier to do that if you are a little bit ahead of the golf ball
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or swinging
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down on it because of a little bit of a forward lunge. That pattern of hitting
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down with a
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little forward lunge tends to be more repeatable with irons than it does with
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driver. The second
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answer could be just the fact that the club is longer. And when the club is
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longer, it
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has more resistance to change because it will be moving faster. And when the
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club has more
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resistance to change, it's easier to control if you can get it squared up
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sooner. I use
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the example of imagine you were playing badminton. And instead of playing badm
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inton with a normal
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racket, which is quite light and which you can square up with just a little
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flick of
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the wrist, imagine if I gave you a badminton racket that weighed, let's say, 10
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pounds.
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It would change your strategy of how you'd have to play. You'd have to get in
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position
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earlier so that you could have the badminton racket going on the path that you
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wanted
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with a face pointing in the right direction because you wouldn't be able to
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change it
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so quickly down at the bottom or right before impact. It's one of my theories
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based on talking
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with a few golf science guys that that becomes more of an issue when you're
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swinging a longer
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club like a driver than it does with a shorter club, which leads to why a lot
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of golfers
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who have a club face that's open struggle more off the tee than they do with
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their iron
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play. One thing that I've noticed is that golfers who tend to swing at it with
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a little
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bit more ease or rhythm tend to be able to recover better from that open club
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face position.
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Now just so you can see that this is not something new in his game, here we
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have two
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swings, one from 2008 over on the left and one from 2013 over on the right. You
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'll see
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he has the club face a little bit more closed in this one than he does in that
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one. But
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as we start to approach the golf ball you can see the club face is still well
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right
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of where the fairway is there and you can see that this one will not quite as
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dramatic
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is still pointing more off to the right than it is currently. So this seems to
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be a pattern
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that he has struggled with which could explain why he struggles more off the
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tee. But it's
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hard to mess with anything when you are one of the best iron players have the
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great short
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game and the mental game to win as much as he had even with having an accuracy
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deficiency
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off the tee.
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In this analysis video, we discussed the member question, why can't Tiger hit a
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fairway with
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the driver? So, Tiger has had, I'd say, better than expected season. He's doing
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great with
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his iron play. His putting is really come around, but he still seems to
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struggle with
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the driver. In this video, I'm going to talk to you about one or two ideas that
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might contribute
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to why Tiger struggles so much off the tee.
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Whenever I'm addressing consistency, there are three main factors that I look
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for. One
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is the low point control from the face-on video. We're basically looking at the
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height
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of the club down at the ground. Here you can see he's got the club close to the
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height
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of the golf ball for a relatively long period of time. So, low point control
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might not be
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the biggest reason why you would struggle with the driver. For many amateurs,
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it will
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either come down from a too high a position or it will come up too quickly
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leading to
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topping the ball or hitting it really low on the face.
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The second area of consistency that I look at is the swing plane or the rough
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path of
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the club. Now, a guesstimate you can use is if you take the swing to impact and
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then
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freeze it, you can draw a line up the shaft and that will roughly give you the
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shaft plane
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an impact and then you can kind of see how close he is with the hands and the
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club on
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both sides of the ball. You'd have to have the perfect camera angle but you can
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see from
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this view that the path does appear to be slightly into out and it appears to
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be following
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a relatively good path as it relates to the driver. So, it doesn't look like
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low point,
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it doesn't look like path or is main issues which lets us think that possibly
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the third
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one is going to be an issue. The third main issue is looking at the face to
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path relationship
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and basically looking at the timing of how he rotates the club face. So now, if
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we get
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him to roughly shaft parallel here, the club face is not in an overly position
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or overly
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open position and it's not in a terribly close position. He really can do a lot
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from
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where the club is here. But now, as we come down, you can see through these few
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frames
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through here the club is still pointing well out to the right of the target
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which many
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more consistent drivers of the golf ball would have the club face pointing a
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little
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bit closer towards the golf ball or towards the target and not have to rotate
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it quite
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as fast down at the bottom. So one possible reason Tiger struggles off the
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T is he struggles with closing the club face too late in the downswing. Most of
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the amateurs
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who I work with who have this pattern and many pros who have this pattern do
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struggle
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with bigger misses off the T and often struggle with two way misses. Now, the
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next question
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I always get is why is that a bigger problem with the driver than it is with
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the iron?
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But before we investigate that, let's take a quick look at his iron play. Okay,
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so now,
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over on the right, we have a swing vision from the memorial tournament and we
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'll compare
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it to a driver from roughly around the same time of the year. So now, if we get
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him down
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to that chef parallel checkpoint with the iron, you can see that the club faces
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in a
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little bit more closed or turned down position. That by itself isn't going to
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make us more
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consistent, but it could mean that we don't have to close it quite as
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aggressively late.
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And now if we get the club to about the same distance before impact, so
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somewhere kind
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of in this zone here, you can see that the club face is pointing more at the
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golf ball
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or closer to the target than it is over here with the driver. Now, we don't
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know what shots
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he's hitting with these two, but if you look at some of his swings with the
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driver throughout
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the years, you will see that this is a common pattern here where the club face
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is open late.
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And with his iron play, this is more of the common pattern. He tends to get it
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closed
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a little bit sooner. Now, we just have to speculate as to why that happens.
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Perhaps it's the way
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he swings at it harder with the driver that causes the face to get open.
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Perhaps it's
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a waiting of the club in his hands that he feels when in order to swing up on
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the ball,
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he has a hard time doing so with the club face feeling closed. Who knows, but
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this would
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certainly be one area that he could investigate since it does contribute to the
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fact that
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he struggles more with hitting fairways off the tape. Now, let's say you have
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this position
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here with an iron as well as a driver, but you mainly struggle with accuracy
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problems
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with the driver. Well, that can happen for a couple different reasons. One, it
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's often
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easier to close the club face late by straightening the trail arm and kind of
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flipping the wrist.
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And it's often easier to do that if you are a little bit ahead of the golf ball
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or swinging
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down on it because of a little bit of a forward lunge. That pattern of hitting
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down with a
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little forward lunge tends to be more repeatable with irons than it does with
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driver. The second
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answer could be just the fact that the club is longer. And when the club is
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longer, it
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has more resistance to change because it will be moving faster. And when the
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club has more
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resistance to change, it's easier to control if you can get it squared up
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sooner. I use
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the example of imagine you were playing badminton. And instead of playing badm
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inton with a normal
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racket, which is quite light and which you can square up with just a little
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flick of
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the wrist, imagine if I gave you a badminton racket that weighed, let's say, 10
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pounds.
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It would change your strategy of how you'd have to play. You'd have to get in
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position
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earlier so that you could have the badminton racket going on the path that you
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wanted
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with a face pointing in the right direction because you wouldn't be able to
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change it
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so quickly down at the bottom or right before impact. It's one of my theories
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based on talking
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with a few golf science guys that that becomes more of an issue when you're
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swinging a longer
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club like a driver than it does with a shorter club, which leads to why a lot
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of golfers
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who have a club face that's open struggle more off the tee than they do with
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their iron
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play. One thing that I've noticed is that golfers who tend to swing at it with
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a little
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bit more ease or rhythm tend to be able to recover better from that open club
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face position.
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Now just so you can see that this is not something new in his game, here we
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have two
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swings, one from 2008 over on the left and one from 2013 over on the right. You
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'll see
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he has the club face a little bit more closed in this one than he does in that
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one. But
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as we start to approach the golf ball you can see the club face is still well
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right
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of where the fairway is there and you can see that this one will not quite as
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dramatic
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is still pointing more off to the right than it is currently. So this seems to
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be a pattern
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that he has struggled with which could explain why he struggles more off the
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tee. But it's
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hard to mess with anything when you are one of the best iron players have the
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great short
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game and the mental game to win as much as he had even with having an accuracy
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deficiency
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off the tee.
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