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Shouldery vs Wristy
Golfers have described bad swings as wristy and handsy for quite some time. Oftentimes, I think poor shoulder movements are the real cause of some wristy swing looks. The shoulders can change low point dramatically, speed up clubface closing, and create a narrower flat spot if they do too much poor movement down at the bottom. in this video, we explore how to think about analyzing your shoulders vs wrists.
Golfers have described bad swings as wristy and handsy for quite some time. Oftentimes, I think poor shoulder movements are the real cause of some wristy swing looks. The shoulders can change low point dramatically, speed up clubface closing, and create a narrower flat spot if they do too much poor movement down at the bottom. in this video, we explore how to think about analyzing your shoulders vs wrists.
Show transcript
[VIMEO_KEY:554470244]
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000
In this concept video, we're going to address the idea that you're not risty, you're
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000
shoulder-y in your swing.
00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000
So this concept video we're going to discuss the role of the shoulders versus the
00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000
role of the wrist, especially down in the release.
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,000
So a lot of golfers complain about being really scoopy, flippy, risty, kind of, you know,
00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000
having more of a look of the arm's bending, the club getting closer, the club passing,
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000
fast over taking rate, whatever you want to call it.
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:42,000
Well, one of my theories on that is that the shoulders actually have a bigger impact
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000
on your low point control as well as your face control down in the bottom then perhaps
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000
the wrist.
00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000
And I'll show you what I mean.
00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000
So there are two ideas in play.
00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:59,000
One is club face control and two is low point control, or solidness of contact.
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000
So when we're talking about low point control, what you'll see is if I hold the club straight
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000
out in front of me and I just go really risty and use my wrist back and forth, kind of
00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:17,000
like this, you'll see that the club is continuing to come back to a round the same area.
00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:26,000
So if I was down here and truly risty, so didn't try to not move a whole lot other than
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,000
just my wrist, which is virtually impossible, but I'll try.
00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000
My contact in my low point actually isn't that bad.
00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:42,000
Now I'm a little weak because all I can use is my wrist, but I'm making relatively solid
00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000
contact because the wrist is relatively simple joint and it's going to bring the club
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000
back to a pretty narrow range.
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,000
Now on the other hand, if I change my shoulder blades, kind of like this.
00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000
So if I take my shoulder blades and really reach or bring my shoulder blades back, you can
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000
see how much the club would move.
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,000
I could be this high off the ground and then just use my shoulder blades to move the club
00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000
a good six inches or so.
00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:18,000
So now if I don't use my wrist, but I just try to move my shoulder blades, it's very hard
00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000
to make solid contact.
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:27,000
Even if I add a little bit of pivot, I've tried this many times and it is really challenging
00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,000
to reach with the shoulder blades in the exact direction and make solid contact.
00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,000
So if I keep my shoulders more connected and just use the wrist, I tend to get a little
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:45,000
bit better contact rather than if I just use my shoulders.
00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000
So that's kind of theory number one.
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000
Theory number two is club-paced control.
00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,000
So if I put my shoulder, my trail arm, an external rotation, a little bit like this and
00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000
the lead arm, so I'm in this good impact position.
00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:05,000
Now if I rotate my forearms as much as possible, you'll see from this overhead camera
00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000
that I can get that pointing, you know, a good 20 degrees to the left.
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,000
Now if I was to change that and stiffen my forearms, but then rotate my shoulders.
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,000
So kind of like I'm using a steering wheel and rotating that steering wheel to the left,
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000
you can see that I can turn the club a great range of motion.
00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000
Right?
00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:34,000
So a lot of golfers who have trouble with pulling the ball or possibly getting the path
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:42,000
going way to the left, that can be if I rotate my shoulders a lot, then I can hit some
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000
quite nasty, an early pull start line.
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:55,000
Where on the other hand if I keep my shoulders more in this external rotation position or if I
00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000
keep them in kind of this under position like that.
00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:06,000
Now if I rotate my forearms a lot a lot a lot, it's still quite challenging.
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:13,000
To hit it more left than in that case I hit it, you know, maybe 5 10 degrees left
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000
as opposed to 30, 40 like I was doing with the shoulders.
00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:24,000
So the double benefit of having the shoulders in a little bit more stable position when it
00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:31,000
comes to quality of strike is it helps control the width or the radius control and it helps
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000
be a governor for not being able to close the club face too much.
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000
So those are two different direction ideas.
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000
Now the last one you would say, well what about power?
00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:48,000
And yes there are definitely some golfers, especially if you're core and your spine is pretty
00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:56,000
stiff, who get a lot of power from reaching or pulling with those shoulders and getting that
00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,000
shoulder blade change. So from really throwing with those arms and those shoulders,
00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000
they some golfers do create a fair amount of speed.
00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000
Now I'm going to pose the kind of play devil's advocate.
00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,000
If I had a medicine ball and I was going to throw it down target line kind of like this,
00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:22,000
I would probably if I had a heavy enough object and I wanted to really use my bigger muscles
00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,000
on my core, I would connect those shoulders just like I was doing a medicine ball movement in the
00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,000
gym. I wouldn't hold the medicine ball out like this and try to throw it because I would be weaker
00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:40,000
in rotation. Now if I was going to throw the medicine ball down, then I would let the
00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000
shoulders come up and I would really kind of pull them down. I wouldn't lock them in because I
00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:52,000
would be weak in this up and down motion. So I can make the argument that if you are trying to create
00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:00,000
the power through your core, more rotationally, then connecting the shoulders is actually going
00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000
to transfer and make your core more powerful. But if you're going to create the power more vertically
00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:11,000
using those shoulders, then disconnecting the shoulders would make you a little bit more powerful.
00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:18,000
So as far as using the shoulders versus the wrist, a lot of golfers who look on, you know,
00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,000
are told that they look very scoopy, that can actually be a really fast shoulder change motion
00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:33,000
rather than a fast wrist change of motion. So I tend to now support them a lot of golfers who
00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:40,000
look very risty down at the bottom, actually look risty because they're overusing their shoulders.
00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,000
So if it's something you haven't explored in your in your release or in your impact ideas,
00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:54,000
then I would definitely look at some of our drills relating to the shoulder connection,
00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,000
or if you're going to connect the shoulders, you have to learn how to use the forearms a little bit
00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:04,000
better, otherwise it'll take away some of your, you might flare them off to the right.
00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:11,000
It's the most common one. So working through some of the shoulder and the forearms drills can help
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:17,000
on three different fronts that all results in a lot more consistency. So hopefully this helps
00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000
clear up some of the ideas of why I advocate some of the shoulder and forearm movements the way
00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,000
that I do. I think if you do them, they help with power creation if you're doing it rotationally,
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:34,000
they help with low point control and they help with a straightness of contact or not worrying about
00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000
over closing the club base. So try that for a little more consistent release pattern.
00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000
you
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000
In this concept video, we're going to address the idea that you're not risty, you're
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000
shoulder-y in your swing.
00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000
So this concept video we're going to discuss the role of the shoulders versus the
00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000
role of the wrist, especially down in the release.
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,000
So a lot of golfers complain about being really scoopy, flippy, risty, kind of, you know,
00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000
having more of a look of the arm's bending, the club getting closer, the club passing,
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000
fast over taking rate, whatever you want to call it.
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:42,000
Well, one of my theories on that is that the shoulders actually have a bigger impact
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000
on your low point control as well as your face control down in the bottom then perhaps
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000
the wrist.
00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000
And I'll show you what I mean.
00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000
So there are two ideas in play.
00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:59,000
One is club face control and two is low point control, or solidness of contact.
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000
So when we're talking about low point control, what you'll see is if I hold the club straight
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000
out in front of me and I just go really risty and use my wrist back and forth, kind of
00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:17,000
like this, you'll see that the club is continuing to come back to a round the same area.
00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:26,000
So if I was down here and truly risty, so didn't try to not move a whole lot other than
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,000
just my wrist, which is virtually impossible, but I'll try.
00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000
My contact in my low point actually isn't that bad.
00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:42,000
Now I'm a little weak because all I can use is my wrist, but I'm making relatively solid
00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000
contact because the wrist is relatively simple joint and it's going to bring the club
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000
back to a pretty narrow range.
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,000
Now on the other hand, if I change my shoulder blades, kind of like this.
00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000
So if I take my shoulder blades and really reach or bring my shoulder blades back, you can
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000
see how much the club would move.
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,000
I could be this high off the ground and then just use my shoulder blades to move the club
00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000
a good six inches or so.
00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:18,000
So now if I don't use my wrist, but I just try to move my shoulder blades, it's very hard
00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000
to make solid contact.
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:27,000
Even if I add a little bit of pivot, I've tried this many times and it is really challenging
00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,000
to reach with the shoulder blades in the exact direction and make solid contact.
00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,000
So if I keep my shoulders more connected and just use the wrist, I tend to get a little
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:45,000
bit better contact rather than if I just use my shoulders.
00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000
So that's kind of theory number one.
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000
Theory number two is club-paced control.
00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,000
So if I put my shoulder, my trail arm, an external rotation, a little bit like this and
00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000
the lead arm, so I'm in this good impact position.
00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:05,000
Now if I rotate my forearms as much as possible, you'll see from this overhead camera
00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000
that I can get that pointing, you know, a good 20 degrees to the left.
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,000
Now if I was to change that and stiffen my forearms, but then rotate my shoulders.
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,000
So kind of like I'm using a steering wheel and rotating that steering wheel to the left,
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000
you can see that I can turn the club a great range of motion.
00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000
Right?
00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:34,000
So a lot of golfers who have trouble with pulling the ball or possibly getting the path
00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:42,000
going way to the left, that can be if I rotate my shoulders a lot, then I can hit some
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000
quite nasty, an early pull start line.
00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:55,000
Where on the other hand if I keep my shoulders more in this external rotation position or if I
00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000
keep them in kind of this under position like that.
00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:06,000
Now if I rotate my forearms a lot a lot a lot, it's still quite challenging.
00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:13,000
To hit it more left than in that case I hit it, you know, maybe 5 10 degrees left
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000
as opposed to 30, 40 like I was doing with the shoulders.
00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:24,000
So the double benefit of having the shoulders in a little bit more stable position when it
00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:31,000
comes to quality of strike is it helps control the width or the radius control and it helps
00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000
be a governor for not being able to close the club face too much.
00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:40,000
So those are two different direction ideas.
00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000
Now the last one you would say, well what about power?
00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:48,000
And yes there are definitely some golfers, especially if you're core and your spine is pretty
00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:56,000
stiff, who get a lot of power from reaching or pulling with those shoulders and getting that
00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,000
shoulder blade change. So from really throwing with those arms and those shoulders,
00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,000
they some golfers do create a fair amount of speed.
00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000
Now I'm going to pose the kind of play devil's advocate.
00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,000
If I had a medicine ball and I was going to throw it down target line kind of like this,
00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:22,000
I would probably if I had a heavy enough object and I wanted to really use my bigger muscles
00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:28,000
on my core, I would connect those shoulders just like I was doing a medicine ball movement in the
00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,000
gym. I wouldn't hold the medicine ball out like this and try to throw it because I would be weaker
00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:40,000
in rotation. Now if I was going to throw the medicine ball down, then I would let the
00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000
shoulders come up and I would really kind of pull them down. I wouldn't lock them in because I
00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:52,000
would be weak in this up and down motion. So I can make the argument that if you are trying to create
00:05:52,000 --> 00:06:00,000
the power through your core, more rotationally, then connecting the shoulders is actually going
00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:05,000
to transfer and make your core more powerful. But if you're going to create the power more vertically
00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:11,000
using those shoulders, then disconnecting the shoulders would make you a little bit more powerful.
00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:18,000
So as far as using the shoulders versus the wrist, a lot of golfers who look on, you know,
00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:24,000
are told that they look very scoopy, that can actually be a really fast shoulder change motion
00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:33,000
rather than a fast wrist change of motion. So I tend to now support them a lot of golfers who
00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:40,000
look very risty down at the bottom, actually look risty because they're overusing their shoulders.
00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:47,000
So if it's something you haven't explored in your in your release or in your impact ideas,
00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:54,000
then I would definitely look at some of our drills relating to the shoulder connection,
00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,000
or if you're going to connect the shoulders, you have to learn how to use the forearms a little bit
00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:04,000
better, otherwise it'll take away some of your, you might flare them off to the right.
00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:11,000
It's the most common one. So working through some of the shoulder and the forearms drills can help
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:17,000
on three different fronts that all results in a lot more consistency. So hopefully this helps
00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,000
clear up some of the ideas of why I advocate some of the shoulder and forearm movements the way
00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,000
that I do. I think if you do them, they help with power creation if you're doing it rotationally,
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:34,000
they help with low point control and they help with a straightness of contact or not worrying about
00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000
over closing the club base. So try that for a little more consistent release pattern.
00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,000
you
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Young Teachers in
America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.
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instructor.
Shouldery vs Wristy
Golfers have described bad swings as wristy and handsy for quite some time. Oftentimes, I think poor shoulder movements are the real cause of some wristy swing looks. The shoulders can change low point dramatically, speed up clubface closing, and create a narrower flat spot if they do too much poor movement down at the bottom. in this video, we explore how to think about analyzing your shoulders vs wrists.
Golfers have described bad swings as wristy and handsy for quite some time. Oftentimes, I think poor shoulder movements are the real cause of some wristy swing looks. The shoulders can change low point dramatically, speed up clubface closing, and create a narrower flat spot if they do too much poor movement down at the bottom. in this video, we explore how to think about analyzing your shoulders vs wrists.
Show transcript
[VIMEO_KEY:554470244]
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:09,000
In this concept video, we're going to address the idea that you're not risty, you're
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000
shoulder-y in your swing.
00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,000
So this concept video we're going to discuss the role of the shoulders versus the
00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000
role of the wrist, especially down in the release.
00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:24,000
So a lot of golfers complain about being really scoopy, flippy, risty, kind of, you know,
00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:29,000
having more of a look of the arm's bending, the club getting closer, the club passing,
00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000
fast over taking rate, whatever you want to call it.
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:42,000
Well, one of my theories on that is that the shoulders actually have a bigger impact
00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000
on your low point control as well as your face control down in the bottom then perhaps
00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,000
the wrist.
00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000
And I'll show you what I mean.
00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000
So there are two ideas in play.
00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:59,000
One is club face control and two is low point control, or solidness of contact.
00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:05,000
So when we're talking about low point control, what you'll see is if I hold the club straight
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,000
out in front of me and I just go really risty and use my wrist back and forth, kind of
00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:17,000
like this, you'll see that the club is continuing to come back to a round the same area.
00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:26,000
So if I was down here and truly risty, so didn't try to not move a whole lot other than
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:32,000
just my wrist, which is virtually impossible, but I'll try.
00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,000
My contact in my low point actually isn't that bad.
00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:42,000
Now I'm a little weak because all I can use is my wrist, but I'm making relatively solid
00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:47,000
contact because the wrist is relatively simple joint and it's going to bring the club
00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000
back to a pretty narrow range.
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:55,000
Now on the other hand, if I change my shoulder blades, kind of like this.
00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,000
So if I take my shoulder blades and really reach or bring my shoulder blades back, you can
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000
see how much the club would move.
00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:07,000
I could be this high off the ground and then just use my shoulder blades to move the club
00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,000
a good six inches or so.
00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:18,000
So now if I don't use my wrist, but I just try to move my shoulder blades, it's very hard
00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000
to make solid contact.
00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:27,000
Even if I add a little bit of pivot, I've tried this many times and it is really challenging
00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:33,000
to reach with the shoulder blades in the exact direction and make solid contact.
00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:39,000
So if I keep my shoulders more connected and just use the wrist, I tend to get a little
00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:45,000
bit better contact rather than if I just use my shoulders.
00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000
So that's kind of theory number one.
00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,000
Theory number two is club-paced control.
00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:56,000
So if I put my shoulder, my trail arm, an external rotation, a little bit like this and
00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,000
the lead arm, so I'm in this good impact position.
00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:05,000
Now if I rotate my forearms as much as possible, you'll see from this overhead camera
00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:10,000
that I can get that pointing, you know, a good 20 degrees to the left.
00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,000
Now if I was to change that and stiffen my forearms, but then rotate my shoulders.
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,000
So kind of like I'm using a steering wheel and rotating that steering wheel to the left,
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:27,000
you can see that I can turn the club a great range of motion.
00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,000
Right?
00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:34,000
So a lot of golfers who have trouble with pulling the ball or possibly getting the path
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going way to the left, that can be if I rotate my shoulders a lot, then I can hit some
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quite nasty, an early pull start line.
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Where on the other hand if I keep my shoulders more in this external rotation position or if I
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keep them in kind of this under position like that.
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Now if I rotate my forearms a lot a lot a lot, it's still quite challenging.
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To hit it more left than in that case I hit it, you know, maybe 5 10 degrees left
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as opposed to 30, 40 like I was doing with the shoulders.
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So the double benefit of having the shoulders in a little bit more stable position when it
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comes to quality of strike is it helps control the width or the radius control and it helps
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be a governor for not being able to close the club face too much.
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So those are two different direction ideas.
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Now the last one you would say, well what about power?
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And yes there are definitely some golfers, especially if you're core and your spine is pretty
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stiff, who get a lot of power from reaching or pulling with those shoulders and getting that
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shoulder blade change. So from really throwing with those arms and those shoulders,
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they some golfers do create a fair amount of speed.
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Now I'm going to pose the kind of play devil's advocate.
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If I had a medicine ball and I was going to throw it down target line kind of like this,
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I would probably if I had a heavy enough object and I wanted to really use my bigger muscles
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on my core, I would connect those shoulders just like I was doing a medicine ball movement in the
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gym. I wouldn't hold the medicine ball out like this and try to throw it because I would be weaker
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in rotation. Now if I was going to throw the medicine ball down, then I would let the
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shoulders come up and I would really kind of pull them down. I wouldn't lock them in because I
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would be weak in this up and down motion. So I can make the argument that if you are trying to create
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the power through your core, more rotationally, then connecting the shoulders is actually going
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to transfer and make your core more powerful. But if you're going to create the power more vertically
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using those shoulders, then disconnecting the shoulders would make you a little bit more powerful.
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So as far as using the shoulders versus the wrist, a lot of golfers who look on, you know,
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are told that they look very scoopy, that can actually be a really fast shoulder change motion
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rather than a fast wrist change of motion. So I tend to now support them a lot of golfers who
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look very risty down at the bottom, actually look risty because they're overusing their shoulders.
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So if it's something you haven't explored in your in your release or in your impact ideas,
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then I would definitely look at some of our drills relating to the shoulder connection,
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or if you're going to connect the shoulders, you have to learn how to use the forearms a little bit
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better, otherwise it'll take away some of your, you might flare them off to the right.
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It's the most common one. So working through some of the shoulder and the forearms drills can help
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on three different fronts that all results in a lot more consistency. So hopefully this helps
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clear up some of the ideas of why I advocate some of the shoulder and forearm movements the way
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that I do. I think if you do them, they help with power creation if you're doing it rotationally,
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they help with low point control and they help with a straightness of contact or not worrying about
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over closing the club base. So try that for a little more consistent release pattern.
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In this concept video, we're going to address the idea that you're not risty, you're
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shoulder-y in your swing.
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So this concept video we're going to discuss the role of the shoulders versus the
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role of the wrist, especially down in the release.
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So a lot of golfers complain about being really scoopy, flippy, risty, kind of, you know,
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having more of a look of the arm's bending, the club getting closer, the club passing,
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fast over taking rate, whatever you want to call it.
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Well, one of my theories on that is that the shoulders actually have a bigger impact
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on your low point control as well as your face control down in the bottom then perhaps
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the wrist.
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And I'll show you what I mean.
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So there are two ideas in play.
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One is club face control and two is low point control, or solidness of contact.
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So when we're talking about low point control, what you'll see is if I hold the club straight
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out in front of me and I just go really risty and use my wrist back and forth, kind of
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like this, you'll see that the club is continuing to come back to a round the same area.
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So if I was down here and truly risty, so didn't try to not move a whole lot other than
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just my wrist, which is virtually impossible, but I'll try.
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My contact in my low point actually isn't that bad.
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Now I'm a little weak because all I can use is my wrist, but I'm making relatively solid
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contact because the wrist is relatively simple joint and it's going to bring the club
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back to a pretty narrow range.
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Now on the other hand, if I change my shoulder blades, kind of like this.
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So if I take my shoulder blades and really reach or bring my shoulder blades back, you can
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see how much the club would move.
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I could be this high off the ground and then just use my shoulder blades to move the club
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a good six inches or so.
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So now if I don't use my wrist, but I just try to move my shoulder blades, it's very hard
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to make solid contact.
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Even if I add a little bit of pivot, I've tried this many times and it is really challenging
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to reach with the shoulder blades in the exact direction and make solid contact.
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So if I keep my shoulders more connected and just use the wrist, I tend to get a little
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bit better contact rather than if I just use my shoulders.
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So that's kind of theory number one.
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Theory number two is club-paced control.
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So if I put my shoulder, my trail arm, an external rotation, a little bit like this and
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the lead arm, so I'm in this good impact position.
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Now if I rotate my forearms as much as possible, you'll see from this overhead camera
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that I can get that pointing, you know, a good 20 degrees to the left.
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Now if I was to change that and stiffen my forearms, but then rotate my shoulders.
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So kind of like I'm using a steering wheel and rotating that steering wheel to the left,
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you can see that I can turn the club a great range of motion.
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Right?
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So a lot of golfers who have trouble with pulling the ball or possibly getting the path
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going way to the left, that can be if I rotate my shoulders a lot, then I can hit some
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quite nasty, an early pull start line.
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Where on the other hand if I keep my shoulders more in this external rotation position or if I
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keep them in kind of this under position like that.
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Now if I rotate my forearms a lot a lot a lot, it's still quite challenging.
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To hit it more left than in that case I hit it, you know, maybe 5 10 degrees left
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as opposed to 30, 40 like I was doing with the shoulders.
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So the double benefit of having the shoulders in a little bit more stable position when it
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comes to quality of strike is it helps control the width or the radius control and it helps
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be a governor for not being able to close the club face too much.
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So those are two different direction ideas.
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Now the last one you would say, well what about power?
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And yes there are definitely some golfers, especially if you're core and your spine is pretty
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stiff, who get a lot of power from reaching or pulling with those shoulders and getting that
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shoulder blade change. So from really throwing with those arms and those shoulders,
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they some golfers do create a fair amount of speed.
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Now I'm going to pose the kind of play devil's advocate.
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If I had a medicine ball and I was going to throw it down target line kind of like this,
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I would probably if I had a heavy enough object and I wanted to really use my bigger muscles
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on my core, I would connect those shoulders just like I was doing a medicine ball movement in the
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gym. I wouldn't hold the medicine ball out like this and try to throw it because I would be weaker
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in rotation. Now if I was going to throw the medicine ball down, then I would let the
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shoulders come up and I would really kind of pull them down. I wouldn't lock them in because I
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would be weak in this up and down motion. So I can make the argument that if you are trying to create
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the power through your core, more rotationally, then connecting the shoulders is actually going
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to transfer and make your core more powerful. But if you're going to create the power more vertically
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using those shoulders, then disconnecting the shoulders would make you a little bit more powerful.
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So as far as using the shoulders versus the wrist, a lot of golfers who look on, you know,
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are told that they look very scoopy, that can actually be a really fast shoulder change motion
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rather than a fast wrist change of motion. So I tend to now support them a lot of golfers who
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look very risty down at the bottom, actually look risty because they're overusing their shoulders.
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So if it's something you haven't explored in your in your release or in your impact ideas,
00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:54,000
then I would definitely look at some of our drills relating to the shoulder connection,
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or if you're going to connect the shoulders, you have to learn how to use the forearms a little bit
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better, otherwise it'll take away some of your, you might flare them off to the right.
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It's the most common one. So working through some of the shoulder and the forearms drills can help
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on three different fronts that all results in a lot more consistency. So hopefully this helps
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clear up some of the ideas of why I advocate some of the shoulder and forearm movements the way
00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:27,000
that I do. I think if you do them, they help with power creation if you're doing it rotationally,
00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:34,000
they help with low point control and they help with a straightness of contact or not worrying about
00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000
over closing the club base. So try that for a little more consistent release pattern.
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you
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