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In this analysis video, I'm going to answer a member question about shallowing

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versus

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being shallow.

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So he asked if you shallow your arms, you know, where will the club point?

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And I wanted to do this video to point out that the key to arm shallowing is

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that it's

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a movement, it's not really a position.

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So I've got two golfers here that I hope will help illustrate this point.

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Over on the right, I've got Fred Couples over on the left, I've got Phil Mickel

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son.

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You can see they're slightly different camera angles, but you can see that, you

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know, compared

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to some body landmarks, both of these club shafts would be considered more

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steep.

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You know, they're pointing slightly inside the golf ball.

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Phil's maybe a little bit more so.

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So they're both kind of steep in this position.

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Now, I know from their 3D's that Fred Couples is shallowed actually a little

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bit more than

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average.

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So a good bit to get this point and Phil Mickelson hasn't had very much arm

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shallowing if any

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at all.

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He actually does more of his arm shallowing later.

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So if I back it up to the top of the swing, we'll see how they get into that

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delivery

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position or that kind of downswing checkpoint.

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So from here at the top of the swing, you can see they're both in a slightly

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across the

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line position.

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Across the line is steep if you were to look at across the line, it basically

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means the

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club shaft is bisecting the arms.

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So it would be closer to the left arm then to the right arm, which is how it

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looks when

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we look at steep and shallow later in the downswing.

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Now as Fred Couples starts changing direction, you can see some forearm

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rotation if you really

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know what to look for.

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If you're looking at the relationship of the back of the left hand compared to

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the point

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of the elbow, you'll be able to see that there's some left arm rotation through

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that

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phase there where the club is just kind of dropping or shallowing.

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Now it's easier to see the effects of it here because he's kind of given the

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club some

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shallowing momentum as he's still rotating and you'll see that the club through

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there

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has the effect of a little bit more of a shallow position and he's done so

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while his

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bodies continue to power the swing.

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That allows him to hit it more with his body than with his arms and you'll see

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that he

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has some good arm bends still at impact.

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All that is really useful for when hitting the longer clubs like the driver.

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Now Phil from a similar-ish club arm position at the top of the swing, you can

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see that

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the back of the left hand compared to the elbow doesn't really rotate through

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there.

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It's pretty much going in the same direction.

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So the club is swinging in roughly the same direction that the hands are going

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instead

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of swinging more down and back.

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And so he doesn't really get any shallowing there so he has to shallow more by

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straightening

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that right arm and kind of stalling some of his rotation.

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Now that combination can be great for wedges and short irons but is usually

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problematic

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with a club that has a little bit higher moment of inertia and less loft.

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So having limited flat spot, limited body power tends to produce some more

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problematic

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patterns for the longer club like the driver.

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So even though they have a club both in a steeper position in transition, Fred

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Couples

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is able to hit about 70% of the fairways and Phil Mickelson will be below 60,

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oftentimes

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in the 50s or some tournaments even lower than that.

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So they both hit the ball a long way but Fred Couples is significantly more

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accurate from

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a similar position because he's doing a different movement to get into that

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position, not just

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the absolute position.

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So as you watch videos, I think it's important to kind of challenge yourself

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and train yourself

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to be able to see the movements they get them into positions, not just the

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isolated positions.

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That's why on the website we teach the movement combinations that work during

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each phase of

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the swing so that you can pick and choose and kind of match up your swing to

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hopefully

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move your swing in a good direction and continue to have a long-term plan and

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continued positive

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results.