Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

Improve Your Setup: Key Differences Between Pros and Amateurs

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify how spine alignment affects your swing mechanics
  • Understand the role of grip strength in maintaining control
  • Learn how proper ball position can impact your shot accuracy

In this video, we analyze the setup differences between professional and amateur golfers, focusing on aspects like spine alignment, grip strength, and ball position. Understanding these fundamentals will help you enhance your own setup for better performance on the course.

Video Transcript
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In this analysis video, we're gonna look at setup.

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Now, we're gonna start the video by looking at the body.

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So we're gonna look at the spine, the hips, the knees.

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And then we're gonna look at the arms.

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So we're gonna look at the shoulders and the grip strength.

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And then lastly, we'll look at ball position.

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So first, let's look at the spine.

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Now, it's very hard to see exactly what the spine is doing

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when looking at video, but we can get a general idea.

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And one of the easy ways that we can look at spine

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is if you go from the base of the neck

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to the top of the belt.

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So kind of base of the neck or the collar to the top of the belt.

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And if you do this, you'll see that the spine

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is roughly parallel to this line.

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There'll be a little bit of a curve kind of in the mid back,

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but it's roughly parallel to this line.

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You don't see a big gap between the lower back and the line,

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and you don't see a huge rounding in the mid back.

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Now, over on the right, we have a golfer

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who's demonstrating a form of seaposter.

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So you can see that there's a little bit more of a rounding

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and you can see a little bit more space

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between the back or more of the curve

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is kind of on the outside of that line.

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The place where you can really identify

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that this golfer is in a little bit of seaposter

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is if you look in the lower back.

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So if you're looking somewhere in this space,

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you can see that the belt line

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is almost parallel to the ground

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where Jason Daze is pointing much more out

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in the direction of the golf ball.

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That's an indication of using the hips

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to get down to the golf ball,

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where the amateur on the right has used more

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of the rounding of his mid and upper spine

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to get down to the golf ball

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because his pelvis is almost parallel to the ground.

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And now here on the right is a golfer

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who is demonstrating what we refer to as s-poster,

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where you can see this general soft sort of s-shaped curve

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and you can see that there's virtually no space

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between the lower back and the line

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as opposed to what we saw when we looked at Jason Daze

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over here.

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You can see a much more pronounced kind of hump

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in the mid back and you can see

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that the lower spine is pretty flat to this.

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So essentially what he's doing

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is in order to get down to the golf ball,

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he's sitting into his lower back,

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which inhibits both the abdominals and the glutes

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and makes lateral stability a real issue.

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Also, because of the curve in the lower back,

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in order to get his upper body to face the golf ball,

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he ends up having a pronounced rounding of the upper back.

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Rounding in the upper back will activate more your pecs,

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your upper trap, your anterior delt

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as opposed to your lats and your serratus.

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So you get this rounding of the arms,

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which makes it hard to use the spine

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to create the backswing.

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And now on the right, we have a golfer

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who has a fairly good spine curve,

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pretty neutral, maybe slight C, but pretty good.

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What we'll see here is some excessive knee flex.

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So he's in his setup posture,

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and then as he gets ready to take the club back,

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you'll see a pretty big bounce and set into the knees,

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where if I have a line that's drawn up from the toes,

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you can see that his knees are almost approaching that line,

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where on the left, I have the line

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drawn up from the toes of Jason Day,

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and you can clearly see that he doesn't

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excessively bend those knees.

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Excessively bending the knees is activating

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the quads to create stability,

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as opposed to sitting into the hips and using the glutes.

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Unfortunately, the quads are not as sensitive

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for lateral movement of the pelvis.

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And so many golfers who struggle with too much knee flex

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in setup will then struggle with too much lateral movement

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of the knees and feet during the backswing.

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The next piece we're gonna look at is arm hang.

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And here we've got Adam Scott and Jason Duffner.

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And basically I've just drawn a line straight down

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from the outside of the shoulder,

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as well as from the arm pit or the crease of the shirt,

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since it's a little tricky to see the true backside

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of the shoulder while they're wearing clothes.

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And you can see that their hands fit very nicely

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right within this corridor.

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With the irons, you'll tend to see them fall

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more or less within this corridor.

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And with a driver, you'll tend to see it sit

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just on the outer edge.

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And here are a couple of tour golfers,

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Adam Scott and Jason Day, demonstrating what I mean

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by they'll be just on the outer edge.

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So they'll be more right in the midline

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of the outside of the shoulder,

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as opposed to between the arm pit

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and the outside of the shoulder.

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And here we have a couple amateurs

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that are demonstrating kind of the opposite.

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So here we have a golfer on the right with driver

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who has his hands a little bit more right

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in the middle of that window.

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And then here we have a golfer on the left

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who has his hands a little bit more in that driver position.

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So it can tend to cause issues with retention of posture

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when we get into the backswing and downswing.

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And this next piece we'll take a look at is alignment.

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Now, if you're gonna look at alignment based on video,

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you have to be very careful that you're making sure

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that the camera is somewhat in line

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with the direction that they're aiming.

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'Cause you'll see on a good quality video,

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you'll see the ball roughly take off parallel to the screen

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or straight down the middle of the screen.

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If you take a video and you happen to see the golf ball

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either shoot off more to the right

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or more typically it'll go more to the left,

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that's a pretty good indication that,

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especially at this level of golfer

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that you don't have the camera set up

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in a proper position to look at their alignment.

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But now let's take a quick look at alignment

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of Zach Johnson and Charlie Wheat here.

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What you'll typically see is that the hips,

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the shoulders, the knees, the thighs

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will roughly be parallel to where they want the ball to start.

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In addition, if you look at the forearms,

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you'll typically see a little bit of the lead form.

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So you'll typically see a little bit of the left forearm

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on the top side, just like so.

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That happens from having a little bit more bend in the trail

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or right elbow for raking the golfers

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than is in the left arm.

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And you can see just a little bit of that space

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on each of these two gentlemen.

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And here are a couple more golfers

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to demonstrate this importance of camera angle,

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also to look at triggers.

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Because what you'll see is,

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here, both of these two golfers

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look like their forearms are barely parallel.

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Yes, you can see a little bit of Jason Day's forearm

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right there, but they, for all intent purposes,

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as they look like they're pretty parallel.

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Well, now if we take Jason Day to that frame

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right when the club starts to move back, which is there,

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you can now see there's a little bit more

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of the forearm showing.

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So part of his trigger is to preset some of this rotation.

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We can see a similar movement over here with Tom Watson.

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If you wait until right there where the club starts to move,

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you can start to see the forearm appearing.

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So don't be fooled by the position

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that they're in before they start taking the club away.

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Check to see exactly when you in your video

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are starting to take the club away.

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And here are a couple examples of amateurs

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who tend to aim their upper bodies

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and forearms a little bit more to the left

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and varying the degrees.

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So over here on the left, you can see a golfer.

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And as he goes to initiate his takeaway, which happens,

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right there, we still see the left arm underneath the right.

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And it's not until the club is right about there,

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about a foot behind the golf ball

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that we start to see that left forearm,

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indicating that the shoulders as well as the forearms

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were pointed well to the left

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before he started to take the club away.

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Over here on the right, you'll see it much more subtly.

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This is a pretty good mid-level handicap.

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And you'll see that here he's starting

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to take the club back already

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and we still can't see the left forearm.

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And then there we go.

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So again, about in that foot behind the golf ball range.

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Now, if you were to look at him,

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this is the shoulder position

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that it looked like Jason Day, Adam Scott,

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and some of those other golfers were in,

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but now he's got the club about a foot behind the ball.

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So this could just set you up slightly

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to air on the side of hitting some poles

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or slices if that's your preferred ball flight.

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And here a couple more examples,

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just to demonstrate the principle that I talk about

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where I think that the closer you are to the club

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or the closer you are to the grip,

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the more important the alignment is.

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So here two offers is Tommy Gainey

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and an amateur that I teach,

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who if you look at their upper body,

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if you look at their forearms,

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if you look at their shoulders,

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they're roughly parallel to where the ball's going to start.

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If you look at their feet, they're a little bit closed.

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I think it's fine to have your lower body

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be a little bit closed or open.

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That can actually help account for

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pelvis height, leg length issues, all those kind of things.

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But I rarely see golfers who succeed at a really high level

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who have their upper body in forearms

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completely out of alignment.

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And now we're going to look at the face-on position

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so that we can look at grip strength and ball position.

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So first, we're going to look at ball position.

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And if we look at ball position,

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there's a couple of things that I like to do.

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You're going to draw a vertical line up

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from the back of the line.

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And you're going to draw, sorry,

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you're going to draw a vertical line

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up from the back of the ball.

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And then you're going to draw a horizontal line

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from the tip of their left foot.

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And the horizontal line from the tip of the left foot

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is just to confirm the camera angle.

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If you look on the left, you can see that

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roughly the tips of both feet of Jason Duffner

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are touching this line.

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So unless he has a closed stance,

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which we could always check from the down the line,

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we know that this camera is pretty much perpendicular

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to the direction he's trying to hit the ball

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if the ball is in the center of the screen.

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If you look over on the right,

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you can see that not only is the ball

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not in the center of the screen,

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but there's a pretty good amount of distance or space

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right there where I made a few little hash marks.

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There's a pretty good amount of space

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between the left and the right line.

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So essentially, this is not a very good camera angle.

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And if we were to look at his ball position from here,

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it would look like it's pretty much in the middle

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of his body and in the middle of his stance.

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Now we have a video of Adam Scott

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where the golf ball is more in the middle of the screen.

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And we can see that his toes are much closer

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to parallel to this line.

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As a result, we can see that the ball position

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he's hitting with the driver is much more

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towards the front half of his body,

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or almost even with the outside of his left knee,

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left shoulder, where with the iron, Jason Duchner

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has a little bit more of a mid stance and mid chest

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or right off of a logo if you had one on your shirt

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and right off the inside of the inner thigh.

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We'll look at a few more.

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And here we have Justin Rose,

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both with an iron on the right and a driver on the left

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so that you can see the difference

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in ball position and setup.

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So on the right, you'll see that the line

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up the back of the golf ball goes roughly

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through his shirt pocket or just to the left of his zipper

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or just on the inside of his right thigh

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and off of his left ear.

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All of those are pretty good acceptable ball positions

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for playing your typical iron shot.

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Now over here on the left, you'll see the ball position

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just outside of his left ear or more in line

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with the left shoulder or almost the left knee.

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And here we have Roy McElroy.

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So on the right, we have him with the iron,

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pretty good camera angle.

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Ball's roughly in the middle of the screen

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and you can see if we draw the ball position line,

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roughly goes through his left eye.

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So as we get into the shorter clubs,

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you can see that it's going more and more in front

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of the face and less and less in front of the shoulder.

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Here we have a decent camera angle.

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The toes are roughly parallel so the lens

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is pretty parallel to the golfer,

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but the ball is positioned forward in the screen

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so it'll make it look like it's a little bit more forward

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of his body, but we can see it's well front

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of where he is playing his iron.

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So just something for you to factor in

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when you're taking a look at your ball position

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for your irons and your driver.

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And here we have an example of a higher handicap golfer

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and we can see that if we look at the driver,

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the ball's in the middle of the screen,

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stance is parallel, he's just got that ball

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pretty much in the same place,

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just slightly ahead of where he had the iron.

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Both of them are roughly in the middle of his pelvis

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as well as just off his left eye or left ear.

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In general, I would say that amateurs

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tend to play the ball more further back

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or away from the target than professionals,

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but that's a dangerous generalization.

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There's obviously gonna be people

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who do it at both extremes.

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Here we have two amateur golfers,

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one hitting an iron where it's a little bit more

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off of his right eye and another golfer hitting it,

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a driver where yes, it's ahead of his,

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it's ahead kind of even with his left shoulder,

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but you'll see because of his stance,

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it's not actually very far up compared

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to his lower body.

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So part of the reason why amateur golfers

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tend to want to play the ball further back

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is because they have trouble getting the path of the club

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to go out to the right,

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and you'll learn more about this as you go through the system,

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but they have trouble getting the path of the club

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to get out to the right, so having the ball further back

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limits how much the club is swinging to the left naturally.

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And the last piece of the setup puzzle

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that we're gonna look at is grip strength.

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Now, looking at grip strength on 2D is a little bit limited.

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I typically look on 3D to see how much extension

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is in the left wrist or in the right wrist,

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and I factored that into how I'm calculating the grip strength.

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But with 2D, one of the ways that you can look at it

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is if you look at their hands and you look at

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either the angle of the forearm to the wrist,

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like so, or if you just look at how much

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of the glove is showing.

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So here we can look at the forearms,

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the wrist of Justin Rose not measuring an angle,

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just kind of identifying and noticing

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that there is a significant angle

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or looking at how much of this logo of the glove

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you can see on the back of the left hand.

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Essentially, the left hand is pointing more at us,

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the golf ball or the camera,

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than it is pointing at the target.

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The tour average that I see on 3D

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is going to be about 25 degrees of wrist extension.

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With, combine that with a little bit of rotation,

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and we happen to see this hand

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pointing a little bit more at the camera with most golfers.

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Here are two more examples.

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We've got Tiger Woods on the left,

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Graham McDowell on the right.

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Tiger Woods has moved more towards a weaker grip.

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Well, he originally moved towards a weaker grip

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and now seems to be moving back a little bit stronger,

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but you can see how much he has right there.

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And if you look at Graham McDowell,

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you can see the majority of his glove,

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he tends to have a stronger grip,

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believe somewhere around 40 degrees of extension on 3D.

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Now, it's also ideal if the hands

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are somewhat working together.

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So if you were to look at the bees on the fingers,

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that's one way that has typically been taught

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to look at grip strength.

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So if I were to draw a line up the bee between the thumb

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and the first joint, you can see that roughly,

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it's hard to see the joint on the left hand,

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but these would roughly be parallel to each other.

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Where if you were to look at this amateur here,

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a, knowing what we know about grip strength,

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we can barely see any of the back of his left hand.

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It is primarily facing right at the target

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where that bee is pointing straight up towards his eye.

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If we look at the bee on the right hand,

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the right hand is pointing actually outside of his shoulder.

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So his hands are a little bit not positioned,

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but the bigger problem is that the left hand

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is in a very weak position.

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Now, if you have a weaker or a hand that's facing

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more the target or turn more to the left on the club,

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you have a weaker grip and you struggle with a ball

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that curves off to the right,

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this is something that you should definitely look at.

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And firstly, if you have a stronger grip

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where these V's are pointing more well off to the left like so,

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or sorry, turn right on the club

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so they're pointing outside your shoulder.

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And you struggle with a golf ball

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that over hooks or over curves to the left.

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Again, that is probably something

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that you should at least consider.

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Here's another amateur golfer on the right

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and you can see if you look at the back of his left hand,

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you can see that while the bee on the right hand

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is pointing over towards the right or over towards his shoulder,

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you can see that the back of his left hand

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is pointing very much in the direction of the target.

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There's a golfer that complains of hitting fades

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and so having a weak grip has been a big problem for him

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and strengthening the grip has helped him overcome

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the tendency to hit mostly a ball

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that curves off to the right.

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Now, I know that we've covered a lot in this video.

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So just to summarize, we've looked at the spine curve.

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We've looked at the amount of hip hinge

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and how that relates to spine curve.

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We've looked at the amount of knee flex

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and we've looked at the arm hang.

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And then over on the left,

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we've looked at your ball position,

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how that relates to whether it's an iron or a driver

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and we've looked at your grip strength.

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Now, I know that sounds like a lot

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and frankly, it is,

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but the good thing is it doesn't take any real athleticism

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in order to have a very good consistent setup.

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It just takes discipline and repetition.

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And so within the site,

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we've broken down each of these pieces

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and associated drills with them

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that you can practice either at home or at the course

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in order to build this consistent repeatable pattern.

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But anytime you're learning a movement,

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you've got to put in a significant number of repetitions,

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500, 1,000, 1,500 repetitions

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so that the brain can really refine that pattern

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and feel comfortable with it.

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I don't expect you to just memorize these different pieces

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and then go to the course and hope that it works out.

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That's never going to work.

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You need to put in a little bit of training,

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but a little bit of training helps build

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that consistent setup that you're looking for,

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which builds the repeatable golf swing

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that you're here to learn.

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Improve Your Setup: Key Differences Between Pros and Amateurs

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify how spine alignment affects your swing mechanics
  • Understand the role of grip strength in maintaining control
  • Learn how proper ball position can impact your shot accuracy

In this video, we analyze the setup differences between professional and amateur golfers, focusing on aspects like spine alignment, grip strength, and ball position. Understanding these fundamentals will help you enhance your own setup for better performance on the course.

Video Transcript
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In this analysis video, we're gonna look at setup.

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Now, we're gonna start the video by looking at the body.

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So we're gonna look at the spine, the hips, the knees.

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And then we're gonna look at the arms.

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So we're gonna look at the shoulders and the grip strength.

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And then lastly, we'll look at ball position.

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So first, let's look at the spine.

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Now, it's very hard to see exactly what the spine is doing

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when looking at video, but we can get a general idea.

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And one of the easy ways that we can look at spine

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is if you go from the base of the neck

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to the top of the belt.

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So kind of base of the neck or the collar to the top of the belt.

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And if you do this, you'll see that the spine

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is roughly parallel to this line.

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There'll be a little bit of a curve kind of in the mid back,

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but it's roughly parallel to this line.

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You don't see a big gap between the lower back and the line,

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and you don't see a huge rounding in the mid back.

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Now, over on the right, we have a golfer

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who's demonstrating a form of seaposter.

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So you can see that there's a little bit more of a rounding

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and you can see a little bit more space

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between the back or more of the curve

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is kind of on the outside of that line.

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The place where you can really identify

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that this golfer is in a little bit of seaposter

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is if you look in the lower back.

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So if you're looking somewhere in this space,

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you can see that the belt line

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is almost parallel to the ground

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where Jason Daze is pointing much more out

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in the direction of the golf ball.

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That's an indication of using the hips

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to get down to the golf ball,

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where the amateur on the right has used more

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of the rounding of his mid and upper spine

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to get down to the golf ball

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because his pelvis is almost parallel to the ground.

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And now here on the right is a golfer

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who is demonstrating what we refer to as s-poster,

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where you can see this general soft sort of s-shaped curve

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and you can see that there's virtually no space

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between the lower back and the line

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as opposed to what we saw when we looked at Jason Daze

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over here.

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You can see a much more pronounced kind of hump

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in the mid back and you can see

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that the lower spine is pretty flat to this.

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So essentially what he's doing

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is in order to get down to the golf ball,

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he's sitting into his lower back,

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which inhibits both the abdominals and the glutes

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and makes lateral stability a real issue.

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Also, because of the curve in the lower back,

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in order to get his upper body to face the golf ball,

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he ends up having a pronounced rounding of the upper back.

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Rounding in the upper back will activate more your pecs,

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your upper trap, your anterior delt

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as opposed to your lats and your serratus.

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So you get this rounding of the arms,

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which makes it hard to use the spine

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to create the backswing.

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And now on the right, we have a golfer

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who has a fairly good spine curve,

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pretty neutral, maybe slight C, but pretty good.

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What we'll see here is some excessive knee flex.

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So he's in his setup posture,

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and then as he gets ready to take the club back,

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you'll see a pretty big bounce and set into the knees,

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where if I have a line that's drawn up from the toes,

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you can see that his knees are almost approaching that line,

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where on the left, I have the line

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drawn up from the toes of Jason Day,

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and you can clearly see that he doesn't

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excessively bend those knees.

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the quads to create stability,

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as opposed to sitting into the hips and using the glutes.

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Unfortunately, the quads are not as sensitive

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for lateral movement of the pelvis.

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in setup will then struggle with too much lateral movement

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of the knees and feet during the backswing.

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from the outside of the shoulder,

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as well as from the arm pit or the crease of the shirt,

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since it's a little tricky to see the true backside

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of the shoulder while they're wearing clothes.

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And you can see that their hands fit very nicely

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right within this corridor.

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more or less within this corridor.

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just on the outer edge.

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Adam Scott and Jason Day, demonstrating what I mean

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by they'll be just on the outer edge.

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of the outside of the shoulder,

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as opposed to between the arm pit

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and the outside of the shoulder.

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that are demonstrating kind of the opposite.

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who has his hands a little bit more right

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in the middle of that window.

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who has his hands a little bit more in that driver position.

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when we get into the backswing and downswing.

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you have to be very careful that you're making sure

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that the camera is somewhat in line

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with the direction that they're aiming.

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you'll see the ball roughly take off parallel to the screen

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or straight down the middle of the screen.

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either shoot off more to the right

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that's a pretty good indication that,

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especially at this level of golfer

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that you don't have the camera set up

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in a proper position to look at their alignment.

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of Zach Johnson and Charlie Wheat here.

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the shoulders, the knees, the thighs

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will roughly be parallel to where they want the ball to start.

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on the top side, just like so.

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or right elbow for raking the golfers

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than is in the left arm.

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on each of these two gentlemen.

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to demonstrate this importance of camera angle,

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also to look at triggers.

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here, both of these two golfers

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look like their forearms are barely parallel.

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right there, but they, for all intent purposes,

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as they look like they're pretty parallel.

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right when the club starts to move back, which is there,

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you can now see there's a little bit more

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of the forearm showing.

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you can start to see the forearm appearing.

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that they're in before they start taking the club away.

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are starting to take the club away.

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who tend to aim their upper bodies

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and forearms a little bit more to the left

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and varying the degrees.

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right there, we still see the left arm underneath the right.

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about a foot behind the golf ball

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that we start to see that left forearm,

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indicating that the shoulders as well as the forearms

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were pointed well to the left

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before he started to take the club away.

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This is a pretty good mid-level handicap.

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to take the club back already

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and we still can't see the left forearm.

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this is the shoulder position

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that it looked like Jason Day, Adam Scott,

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and some of those other golfers were in,

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to air on the side of hitting some poles

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or slices if that's your preferred ball flight.

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just to demonstrate the principle that I talk about

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where I think that the closer you are to the club

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the more important the alignment is.

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who if you look at their upper body,

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they're roughly parallel to where the ball's going to start.

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be a little bit closed or open.

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pelvis height, leg length issues, all those kind of things.

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who have their upper body in forearms

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completely out of alignment.

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You're going to draw a vertical line up

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you're going to draw a vertical line

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up from the back of the ball.

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from the tip of their left foot.

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roughly the tips of both feet of Jason Duffner

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are touching this line.

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which we could always check from the down the line,

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we know that this camera is pretty much perpendicular

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to the direction he's trying to hit the ball

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if the ball is in the center of the screen.

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not in the center of the screen,

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right there where I made a few little hash marks.

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between the left and the right line.

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of his body and in the middle of his stance.

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to parallel to this line.

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he's hitting with the driver is much more

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towards the front half of his body,

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or almost even with the outside of his left knee,

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left shoulder, where with the iron, Jason Duchner

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has a little bit more of a mid stance and mid chest

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both with an iron on the right and a driver on the left

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so that you can see the difference

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in ball position and setup.

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up the back of the golf ball goes roughly

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through his shirt pocket or just to the left of his zipper

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for playing your typical iron shot.

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just outside of his left ear or more in line

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pretty good camera angle.

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roughly goes through his left eye.

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you can see that it's going more and more in front

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of the face and less and less in front of the shoulder.

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but the ball is positioned forward in the screen

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so it'll make it look like it's a little bit more forward

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of his body, but we can see it's well front

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of where he is playing his iron.

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when you're taking a look at your ball position

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for your irons and your driver.

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the ball's in the middle of the screen,

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stance is parallel, he's just got that ball

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pretty much in the same place,

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just slightly ahead of where he had the iron.

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tend to play the ball more further back

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or away from the target than professionals,

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but that's a dangerous generalization.

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There's obviously gonna be people

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who do it at both extremes.

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Here we have two amateur golfers,

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one hitting an iron where it's a little bit more

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off of his right eye and another golfer hitting it,

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a driver where yes, it's ahead of his,

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it's ahead kind of even with his left shoulder,

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it's not actually very far up compared

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to his lower body.

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tend to want to play the ball further back

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is because they have trouble getting the path of the club

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to go out to the right,

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but they have trouble getting the path of the club

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to get out to the right, so having the ball further back

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limits how much the club is swinging to the left naturally.

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that we're gonna look at is grip strength.

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I typically look on 3D to see how much extension

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is in the left wrist or in the right wrist,

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is if you look at their hands and you look at

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either the angle of the forearm to the wrist,

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like so, or if you just look at how much

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of the glove is showing.

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So here we can look at the forearms,

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the wrist of Justin Rose not measuring an angle,

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just kind of identifying and noticing

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that there is a significant angle

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or looking at how much of this logo of the glove

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you can see on the back of the left hand.

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Essentially, the left hand is pointing more at us,

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the golf ball or the camera,

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than it is pointing at the target.

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The tour average that I see on 3D

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is going to be about 25 degrees of wrist extension.

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With, combine that with a little bit of rotation,

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and we happen to see this hand

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pointing a little bit more at the camera with most golfers.

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Here are two more examples.

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We've got Tiger Woods on the left,

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Graham McDowell on the right.

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Tiger Woods has moved more towards a weaker grip.

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Well, he originally moved towards a weaker grip

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and now seems to be moving back a little bit stronger,

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but you can see how much he has right there.

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And if you look at Graham McDowell,

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you can see the majority of his glove,

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he tends to have a stronger grip,

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believe somewhere around 40 degrees of extension on 3D.

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Now, it's also ideal if the hands

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are somewhat working together.

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So if you were to look at the bees on the fingers,

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that's one way that has typically been taught

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to look at grip strength.

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So if I were to draw a line up the bee between the thumb

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and the first joint, you can see that roughly,

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it's hard to see the joint on the left hand,

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but these would roughly be parallel to each other.

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Where if you were to look at this amateur here,

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a, knowing what we know about grip strength,

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we can barely see any of the back of his left hand.

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It is primarily facing right at the target

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where that bee is pointing straight up towards his eye.

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If we look at the bee on the right hand,

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the right hand is pointing actually outside of his shoulder.

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So his hands are a little bit not positioned,

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but the bigger problem is that the left hand

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is in a very weak position.

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Now, if you have a weaker or a hand that's facing

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more the target or turn more to the left on the club,

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you have a weaker grip and you struggle with a ball

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that curves off to the right,

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this is something that you should definitely look at.

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And firstly, if you have a stronger grip

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where these V's are pointing more well off to the left like so,

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or sorry, turn right on the club

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so they're pointing outside your shoulder.

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And you struggle with a golf ball

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that over hooks or over curves to the left.

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Again, that is probably something

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that you should at least consider.

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Here's another amateur golfer on the right

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and you can see if you look at the back of his left hand,

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you can see that while the bee on the right hand

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is pointing over towards the right or over towards his shoulder,

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you can see that the back of his left hand

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is pointing very much in the direction of the target.

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There's a golfer that complains of hitting fades

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and so having a weak grip has been a big problem for him

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and strengthening the grip has helped him overcome

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the tendency to hit mostly a ball

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that curves off to the right.

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Now, I know that we've covered a lot in this video.

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So just to summarize, we've looked at the spine curve.

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We've looked at the amount of hip hinge

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and how that relates to spine curve.

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We've looked at the amount of knee flex

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and we've looked at the arm hang.

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And then over on the left,

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we've looked at your ball position,

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how that relates to whether it's an iron or a driver

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and we've looked at your grip strength.

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Now, I know that sounds like a lot

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and frankly, it is,

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but the good thing is it doesn't take any real athleticism

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in order to have a very good consistent setup.

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It just takes discipline and repetition.

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And so within the site,

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we've broken down each of these pieces

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and associated drills with them

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that you can practice either at home or at the course

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in order to build this consistent repeatable pattern.

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But anytime you're learning a movement,

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you've got to put in a significant number of repetitions,

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500, 1,000, 1,500 repetitions

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so that the brain can really refine that pattern

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and feel comfortable with it.

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I don't expect you to just memorize these different pieces

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and then go to the course and hope that it works out.

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That's never going to work.

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You need to put in a little bit of training,

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but a little bit of training helps build

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that consistent setup that you're looking for,

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which builds the repeatable golf swing

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that you're here to learn.

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