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Identify and Fix Loss of Posture in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Recognize the signs of loss of posture during your backswing.
  • Understand how a lack of left tilt can lead to poor shot outcomes.
  • Identify the connection between posture loss and common swing faults like fat and topped shots.

In this video, we'll analyze the common swing pattern of loss of posture, focusing on how it affects your backswing and ball flight. Understanding this concept is crucial for improving your overall swing mechanics and consistency on the course.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

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In this analysis video, we're going to look at the swing pattern for loss of

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00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.000
posture.

3
00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:13.150
Now the definition of the swing pattern for loss of posture is essentially an

4
00:00:13.150 --> 00:00:15.000
elevation of the thorax

5
00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.000
or a lack of left tilt during the backswing.

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00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.800
So the thorax is going to be somewhere right around in here on these two golf

7
00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:23.000
ers.

8
00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:28.950
And what you'll see is during the backswing, you'll see the thorax actually

9
00:00:28.950 --> 00:00:30.000
raise up.

10
00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:35.660
So if we look at this other gentleman who's a little bit more of a low handicap

11
00:00:35.660 --> 00:00:36.000
golfer,

12
00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:40.000
you'll still see a raise of the thorax.

13
00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:44.660
Now the other way that you can look at this pattern, still from the down the

14
00:00:44.660 --> 00:00:45.000
line camera angle,

15
00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:51.040
is if you were to look at the amount of left tilt of their thorax or the amount

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00:00:51.040 --> 00:00:52.000
of left bend,

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00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:58.000
you will see that loss of posture golfers tend to have flatter shoulders,

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00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.000
and as a result, we'll usually have steeper arms to adjust.

19
00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:07.790
But the pattern is a raise of the thorax and a loss of this left tilt during

20
00:01:07.790 --> 00:01:09.000
the backswing.

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00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:13.360
Or I guess I should say a failure to develop this left tilt during the back

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00:01:13.360 --> 00:01:14.000
swing.

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Now one of the common patterns with this pattern, or the common ball flights

24
00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:21.000
that you'll typically see,

25
00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:26.000
is players who have this loss of posture during their backswing

26
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are typically going to have more of a flexion base swing than a rotation base

27
00:01:30.360 --> 00:01:31.000
swing.

28
00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:36.000
As a result, they're not going to be very open with their body at impact,

29
00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.540
and so that will typically move the bottom of the swing further behind the golf

30
00:01:39.540 --> 00:01:40.000
ball.

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As a result, they will struggle with fat shots and top shots.

32
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They will have a path that's going typically to the left,

33
00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:50.000
but we'll get into that more in the next section.

34
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Now there will always be examples of players on tours who demonstrate some of

35
00:01:55.880 --> 00:01:57.000
these swing patterns.

36
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So here's Kenny Perry, who's probably the most predominant golfer with the loss

37
00:02:02.610 --> 00:02:04.000
of posture swing pattern.

38
00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:11.180
Typically the loss of posture swing pattern is going to cause a transition that

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is more flexion based.

40
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But what you'll see with Kenny Perry is he does a great job during transition

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of getting back into position,

42
00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:24.240
and then allowing rotation to help him provide the proper angle of attack and

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path into the golf club.

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Compare that to this low handicap amateur golfer.

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You'll see that there's a lack of that drop during transition,

46
00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:41.220
which is one of the common compensation patterns or associated movements with

47
00:02:41.220 --> 00:02:43.000
the loss of posture swing pattern.

48
00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:48.830
Typically, when you lose your posture, you will have to then result in a little

49
00:02:48.830 --> 00:02:51.000
bit more of a cast and crunch

50
00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.000
in order to get the golf club back down to the golf ball.

51
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Now let's take a look from a power path and face perspective.

52
00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:07.210
So from a power perspective, this loss of posture is going to load your six-

53
00:03:07.210 --> 00:03:10.000
pack abs and it's going to load your shoulder.

54
00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:15.870
So typically what happens is you're going to do more of a crunch movement from

55
00:03:15.870 --> 00:03:17.000
the upper body,

56
00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.000
and you're going to do more of a tricep extension or arm extension.

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The areas where it tends to weaken your body is it tends to weaken the ability

58
00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.000
to create speed from the legs and from the hips.

59
00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.000
It also tends to weaken the amount of rotational capabilities.

60
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When you have this left shoulder down a little bit more, it loads your obliques

61
00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:43.000
,

62
00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.820
where standing up like so is typically loading more your rectus or your six-

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pack muscles.

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00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:53.330
Your obliques do a great job of rotating you while your six-pack muscles do a

65
00:03:53.330 --> 00:03:56.000
great job of flexing you.

66
00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:01.910
You'll notice that Kenny Perry during this transition is going to get back down

67
00:04:01.910 --> 00:04:08.000
into his hips and create a little bit more of a steep path for his shoulders,

68
00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.000
compared to where it was truly at the top of his swing.

69
00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:18.000
That movement during transition has reloaded the hips and reloaded the obliques

70
00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:18.000
,

71
00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:23.000
and those allow for some of this rotation to occur during his downswing,

72
00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:28.230
where the amateur not sitting back down into the hips, but rather bending more

73
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into the spine,

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is not going to have the legs to necessarily push off and create speed,

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00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:39.000
and so always left with is his crunch and chop from his arms.

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From a path perspective, simply standing up will create more of a shallow path,

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00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.000
because it gets the club swinging more on a horizontal plane.

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Unfortunately, most amateurs that stand up will then use their arms more

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00:04:56.100 --> 00:05:00.000
vertically and do that forward crunch that I discussed.

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So as a result, those two movements tend to create more of a steepening path.

81
00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:12.130
So by itself, the stand-up move or the loss of posture during the backswing is

82
00:05:12.130 --> 00:05:17.000
going to create a shallow angle of attack or a shallow path,

83
00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:22.260
but it's usually accompanied by an overly steep compensation, which results in

84
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the steep and left path that most amateurs who struggle with this pattern

85
00:05:27.230 --> 00:05:28.000
battle.

86
00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:35.560
Lastly, the loss of posture swing pattern by itself has a minimal effect on

87
00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:37.000
face rotation.

88
00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:46.850
One of the most common compensating or associative movements with the loss of

89
00:05:46.850 --> 00:05:50.000
posture swing fault is going to be the cast pattern,

90
00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:56.600
because when I've raised up my upper body, I've loaded that shoulder and I've

91
00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.000
loaded that tricep

92
00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:02.650
and I've created a whole lot of vertical distance between myself and the golf

93
00:06:02.650 --> 00:06:03.000
ball,

94
00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:07.000
which provides for a powerful platform for my arms.

95
00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:15.240
So you'll see frequently the arms leading transition or leading the early

96
00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:19.000
stages of the release, just like so.

97
00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:24.850
So you'll see a little bit of a cast pattern and a lack of drop during

98
00:06:24.850 --> 00:06:26.000
transition.

99
00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:32.000
That drop helps load the hips and create the lower body power, so if you don't

100
00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:35.000
drop, all you have left with is using those arms to create power.

101
00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:41.520
These two movements tend to create an appearance at impact where the hands are

102
00:06:41.520 --> 00:06:46.000
a little bit more even with the golf ball or off of the right side of the body.

103
00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.150
It's not always the case. As you'll see on this skilled golfer on the left, he

104
00:06:50.150 --> 00:06:54.000
's able to still get his hands a little bit ahead of the golf ball,

105
00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:58.200
but that would be part of this common pattern, the loss of posture swing

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00:06:58.200 --> 00:06:59.000
pattern.
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Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

Identify and Fix Loss of Posture in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Recognize the signs of loss of posture during your backswing.
  • Understand how a lack of left tilt can lead to poor shot outcomes.
  • Identify the connection between posture loss and common swing faults like fat and topped shots.

In this video, we'll analyze the common swing pattern of loss of posture, focusing on how it affects your backswing and ball flight. Understanding this concept is crucial for improving your overall swing mechanics and consistency on the course.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.440
In this analysis video, we're going to look at the swing pattern for loss of

2
00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.000
posture.

3
00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:13.150
Now the definition of the swing pattern for loss of posture is essentially an

4
00:00:13.150 --> 00:00:15.000
elevation of the thorax

5
00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.000
or a lack of left tilt during the backswing.

6
00:00:18.000 --> 00:00:22.800
So the thorax is going to be somewhere right around in here on these two golf

7
00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:23.000
ers.

8
00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:28.950
And what you'll see is during the backswing, you'll see the thorax actually

9
00:00:28.950 --> 00:00:30.000
raise up.

10
00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:35.660
So if we look at this other gentleman who's a little bit more of a low handicap

11
00:00:35.660 --> 00:00:36.000
golfer,

12
00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:40.000
you'll still see a raise of the thorax.

13
00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:44.660
Now the other way that you can look at this pattern, still from the down the

14
00:00:44.660 --> 00:00:45.000
line camera angle,

15
00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:51.040
is if you were to look at the amount of left tilt of their thorax or the amount

16
00:00:51.040 --> 00:00:52.000
of left bend,

17
00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:58.000
you will see that loss of posture golfers tend to have flatter shoulders,

18
00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:02.000
and as a result, we'll usually have steeper arms to adjust.

19
00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:07.790
But the pattern is a raise of the thorax and a loss of this left tilt during

20
00:01:07.790 --> 00:01:09.000
the backswing.

21
00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:13.360
Or I guess I should say a failure to develop this left tilt during the back

22
00:01:13.360 --> 00:01:14.000
swing.

23
00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:19.120
Now one of the common patterns with this pattern, or the common ball flights

24
00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:21.000
that you'll typically see,

25
00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:26.000
is players who have this loss of posture during their backswing

26
00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.360
are typically going to have more of a flexion base swing than a rotation base

27
00:01:30.360 --> 00:01:31.000
swing.

28
00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:36.000
As a result, they're not going to be very open with their body at impact,

29
00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.540
and so that will typically move the bottom of the swing further behind the golf

30
00:01:39.540 --> 00:01:40.000
ball.

31
00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:44.000
As a result, they will struggle with fat shots and top shots.

32
00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:47.000
They will have a path that's going typically to the left,

33
00:01:47.000 --> 00:01:50.000
but we'll get into that more in the next section.

34
00:01:50.000 --> 00:01:55.880
Now there will always be examples of players on tours who demonstrate some of

35
00:01:55.880 --> 00:01:57.000
these swing patterns.

36
00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:02.610
So here's Kenny Perry, who's probably the most predominant golfer with the loss

37
00:02:02.610 --> 00:02:04.000
of posture swing pattern.

38
00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:11.180
Typically the loss of posture swing pattern is going to cause a transition that

39
00:02:11.180 --> 00:02:12.000
is more flexion based.

40
00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:16.420
But what you'll see with Kenny Perry is he does a great job during transition

41
00:02:16.420 --> 00:02:18.000
of getting back into position,

42
00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:24.240
and then allowing rotation to help him provide the proper angle of attack and

43
00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:26.000
path into the golf club.

44
00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:31.000
Compare that to this low handicap amateur golfer.

45
00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:36.000
You'll see that there's a lack of that drop during transition,

46
00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:41.220
which is one of the common compensation patterns or associated movements with

47
00:02:41.220 --> 00:02:43.000
the loss of posture swing pattern.

48
00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:48.830
Typically, when you lose your posture, you will have to then result in a little

49
00:02:48.830 --> 00:02:51.000
bit more of a cast and crunch

50
00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:54.000
in order to get the golf club back down to the golf ball.

51
00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:01.000
Now let's take a look from a power path and face perspective.

52
00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:07.210
So from a power perspective, this loss of posture is going to load your six-

53
00:03:07.210 --> 00:03:10.000
pack abs and it's going to load your shoulder.

54
00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:15.870
So typically what happens is you're going to do more of a crunch movement from

55
00:03:15.870 --> 00:03:17.000
the upper body,

56
00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.000
and you're going to do more of a tricep extension or arm extension.

57
00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:28.000
The areas where it tends to weaken your body is it tends to weaken the ability

58
00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:31.000
to create speed from the legs and from the hips.

59
00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.000
It also tends to weaken the amount of rotational capabilities.

60
00:03:36.000 --> 00:03:43.000
When you have this left shoulder down a little bit more, it loads your obliques

61
00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:43.000
,

62
00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:47.820
where standing up like so is typically loading more your rectus or your six-

63
00:03:47.820 --> 00:03:49.000
pack muscles.

64
00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:53.330
Your obliques do a great job of rotating you while your six-pack muscles do a

65
00:03:53.330 --> 00:03:56.000
great job of flexing you.

66
00:03:56.000 --> 00:04:01.910
You'll notice that Kenny Perry during this transition is going to get back down

67
00:04:01.910 --> 00:04:08.000
into his hips and create a little bit more of a steep path for his shoulders,

68
00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:12.000
compared to where it was truly at the top of his swing.

69
00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:18.000
That movement during transition has reloaded the hips and reloaded the obliques

70
00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:18.000
,

71
00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:23.000
and those allow for some of this rotation to occur during his downswing,

72
00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:28.230
where the amateur not sitting back down into the hips, but rather bending more

73
00:04:28.230 --> 00:04:29.000
into the spine,

74
00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:34.000
is not going to have the legs to necessarily push off and create speed,

75
00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:39.000
and so always left with is his crunch and chop from his arms.

76
00:04:41.000 --> 00:04:46.000
From a path perspective, simply standing up will create more of a shallow path,

77
00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.000
because it gets the club swinging more on a horizontal plane.

78
00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:56.100
Unfortunately, most amateurs that stand up will then use their arms more

79
00:04:56.100 --> 00:05:00.000
vertically and do that forward crunch that I discussed.

80
00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:06.000
So as a result, those two movements tend to create more of a steepening path.

81
00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:12.130
So by itself, the stand-up move or the loss of posture during the backswing is

82
00:05:12.130 --> 00:05:17.000
going to create a shallow angle of attack or a shallow path,

83
00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:22.260
but it's usually accompanied by an overly steep compensation, which results in

84
00:05:22.260 --> 00:05:27.230
the steep and left path that most amateurs who struggle with this pattern

85
00:05:27.230 --> 00:05:28.000
battle.

86
00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:35.560
Lastly, the loss of posture swing pattern by itself has a minimal effect on

87
00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:37.000
face rotation.

88
00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:46.850
One of the most common compensating or associative movements with the loss of

89
00:05:46.850 --> 00:05:50.000
posture swing fault is going to be the cast pattern,

90
00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:56.600
because when I've raised up my upper body, I've loaded that shoulder and I've

91
00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.000
loaded that tricep

92
00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:02.650
and I've created a whole lot of vertical distance between myself and the golf

93
00:06:02.650 --> 00:06:03.000
ball,

94
00:06:03.000 --> 00:06:07.000
which provides for a powerful platform for my arms.

95
00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:15.240
So you'll see frequently the arms leading transition or leading the early

96
00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:19.000
stages of the release, just like so.

97
00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:24.850
So you'll see a little bit of a cast pattern and a lack of drop during

98
00:06:24.850 --> 00:06:26.000
transition.

99
00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:32.000
That drop helps load the hips and create the lower body power, so if you don't

100
00:06:32.000 --> 00:06:35.000
drop, all you have left with is using those arms to create power.

101
00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:41.520
These two movements tend to create an appearance at impact where the hands are

102
00:06:41.520 --> 00:06:46.000
a little bit more even with the golf ball or off of the right side of the body.

103
00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:50.150
It's not always the case. As you'll see on this skilled golfer on the left, he

104
00:06:50.150 --> 00:06:54.000
's able to still get his hands a little bit ahead of the golf ball,

105
00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:58.200
but that would be part of this common pattern, the loss of posture swing

106
00:06:58.200 --> 00:06:59.000
pattern.
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