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Understanding Shanks and Yips: Causes and Solutions

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the primary causes of shanks and yips in your swing
  • Learn how grip and hand path influence your ball striking
  • Understand the mental aspects of dealing with the yips on the course

In this live Q&A, we dive into the common issues of shanks and yips, uncovering their causes and how to address them effectively. Join us to gain insights that can help improve your game.

Video Transcript
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want to thank you. Here we'll angle this down a little bit. I want to thank you

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for coming to our live Q&A about the shanks and the yips. So these are these

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are mostly going to be Galsmar Academy members but we're answering Galsmar

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Academy member questions but if you are you know having it if I'm saying

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something about whether it's the shanks or the yips and you got a

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quick question about it go ahead and type something in the chat and I will

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address it as we go through. So we'll we'll start with the shanks because I

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think that they're a fun topic and they're they're kind of a taboo topic

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nobody really likes to talk about them or even address them you know there's

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that famous tin cup scene about they're just like a virus right and nobody

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really knows how to correct them. Well I would say that I probably coach

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someone into the shanks at least once a month or so especially if they're

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coming out of a kind of a casting scoop flip style pattern. Let me just see if

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anybody and we'll see anyone on the chat so if you're if you're here and

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watching just say who you are where you're from real quick because I don't want

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to

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go too far into it and have to start over.

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Okay so we'll go back into the discussion about the shank. So Ryan

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Gossmart Academy member asked about the major cause whether it's more of a

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relationship to the path of the club or whether it's more related to the

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hand path and I'll break that down a little bit but first sorry I was I was

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telling a little story about the coaching people into the shanks so

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oftentimes if you're coming out of a kind of cast scoop pattern right so if

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you're if you're coming out of a pattern where you're basically getting the

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arms

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straight early and then bending them on the way through when you start to work

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on getting a little bit more arm extension it is possible that you can

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start hitting it more on the heel and even shaking the wall because there's

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really two kind of ways that you'll develop the shank. One would be if the

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and I'll do it kind of facing the camera this way so we'll imagine you're the

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target view so one would be if the hosel is simply moving that way so the club

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face starts square like this and it's coming into the ball with the club face

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still square but it's just moved more out towards the golf ball that's option

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number one and then option number two would be okay we start up here the center

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of the club stays at about the same point but now the club faces rotating and

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coming in wide open and so it's hitting the heel there so I would say that of

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the two that first version where the club isn't coming in overly open but

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it's just coming a little bit more out towards the golf ball like so is the

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most common version here's basically what's happening when you're getting

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that version of the chain the path of the club or we'll look at the swing

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plane so if I've got let's let's imagine that instead of the club head I've got

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a weight on the end of the string so I've got a tennis ball in a sock here so

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if

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I'm swinging the weight around me kind of like this my goal is to get that to

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impact where the golf ball was well what can happen is I can get swinging that

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and I can just drift out a little bit kind of like that well that could come

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from one of two primary areas that could either come from just a general weight

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shift and my body shifting more in towards the toes especially if I'm not

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getting a whole lot of rotation if I'm shifting in towards the toes without

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getting rotation that can just move the hand path or the swing path out to the

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golf ball and the other one would be if the trail arm is getting out away and

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straightening too soon so it's kind of going like that that can cause the the

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path of the club to go out that way the the other way that you could look at it

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is not just looking at the path of the weight or the path of the club but

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looking

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at where my hands are along this path so let's say the club is going down

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towards

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the golf ball like this if I have a path that's pointed kind of outside the

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golf

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ball but then my hand path is coming way to the left then I'm probably not

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going

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to shake it I'll probably be okay so it would be going like this but if the

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hand path is coming more around it's going to prevent how far the club is

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swinging away from me where I can get a lot of trouble is if it's swinging

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around

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like this and then my arms are are straightening and they're going with the

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swing of the club and they're going out into the golf ball that can that's one

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of the more common causes for getting that shank pattern to show up especially

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for golfers who used to be really steep in chicken winging and then they get a

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little bit flat and better arm extension time so the question from Ryan is

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basically we have two things either the hands are going too much out or the

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overall path of the club is tilted too much in out which do you go at first I

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would say that the majority of the time I'm gonna go at the hands going more

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out

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and I'm gonna try to get that by staying a little bit more centered in my

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weight

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distribution and working on the pivot on the way through so basically working

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having continued body rotation and basically having the movement of the

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hips and the rib cage start to pull those hands a little bit more around I don

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like the idea of just artificially using the arms to pull them more around into

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the left but if I can use my body turn to get them to go to the left it will

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prevent the club from flying too much into out the other option would be

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essentially trying to tilt the swing path a little bit more vertically because

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it's if it's pointed out a weight out to the outside of the golf ball that's an

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overly shallow position and requires more of that body turn on the way through

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I break it down that's kind of the more the theory as far as how the club works

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so I break it down into a couple different simple body awareness things

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either your weight distribution is moving too much in towards your toes and

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that's causing your hands to get too far out so doing something as simple as

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putting an alignment stick like underneath the toes to make sure that

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you're saying more in the center of your feet that can have a strong enough

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influence or I'll use a pool noodle to make sure that the upper body and the

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head isn't really lunging in towards the golf ball the that would be kind of

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looking at it from the body position orientation the second one will be

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looking at the arm timing and that's usually more of like a tempo drill and

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more of a sequencing drill so I may use like the shank gate just to make golf

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a little bit more aware and then do something like hitting maybe single arm

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only trying to get the timing of the arm extension to happen a little bit

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after the golf ball as opposed to right before it I see a couple comments

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coming

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in from Ned Germany he had the shanks my fix was to flip it which is one of the

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common ways that you fix the the shank because when you move start you know

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flipping the club back this way it's typically going to work away from the

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widest point he said I had I flipped it for 25 years and the tires help stop

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flipping it I think I shanked it because I didn't realize the toe had to close

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past the heel I used to break driver shafts because I'd hit shots dead off

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the extreme inside of the heel so that gets to the that second kind of shank

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which would be more if you're coming in with the clubface open right so if it's

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swinging more in line with the center of the the mass of the club kind of like

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so

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that heel can really come in towards the golf ball and then even if you close

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late because it was coming in it's gonna be further away so if the pivot stuff

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doesn't work and you're still hitting them off to the right then often times

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what you'll have to do is you'll have to get a little bit more of that

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motorcycle

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timing and you'll have to get a little bit earlier face rotation or as Ned is

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describing letting the toe pass the heel in order to square the face and

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basically move the hosel backwards supposed to be so it's not contacting

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the golf ball too soon so before we get into some of the non-shank and yip

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related questions let's go let's transition to the yips unless there are

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any questions that come in more on the shanks if you're shanking the ball watch

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your weight distribution watch your the timing your arm straightening and watch

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the rotation of the face it could show up in early extension being the weight

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distribution it could show up in getting like overly flat or overly shallow

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with

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the arm path with a club face that's wide open but usually you know shanks

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shouldn't be something that you shouldn't be too afraid of because they're

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usually one of the easier patterns to solve once you break it down which brings

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us next to the yip which the yip is a little bit trickier so I was talking we

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hosted Dr. Debbie Cruz and she had some good research with a guy from the

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Mayo Clinic I think or the Cleveland Clinic and he was talking about he he

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was doing a study where they can actually test you neurologically to see if you

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're

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having a yip basically to see if you're having focal dystonia and what they

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found was about seven percent of the people who were they were testing who

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claimed to have the yips actually had this neurological inputs so what most

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people have the vast majority so let's say 93% of golfers who think that they

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have the yips have more of a anxiety built fear pattern around a shot because

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in order for it to be a true yip in order for it to be focal dystonia it is

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situation independent which means if I have you in the most relaxed state if I

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have you in your living room you know nobody watching just making a little

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putting motion or chipping motion because those are two most common times that

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the

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yip shows up it should show up just as frequently with no pressure and no you

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know nothing on the line no one watching no anxiety as if you had pressure on

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you if it's more a result of I get extra tension because I get nervous that is

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usually more a result of a kind of let's say a a balance or an imbalance in

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steep

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shallows and face closing so basically your face and path relationship are

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fragile enough that if you're off by a little bit you have a really bad mess

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commonly with putting that would be I'm either the cut the putter faces getting

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left open or the path of the club is coming way outside in would be the most

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the two most common that I've seen and so what ends up happening is the yip

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either the club faces open and the yip closes it or the putter path is going to

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the left and the yip kind of straightens out the path but because of the

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anxiety

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because of the tension in the forearms it gets overdone and so it it looks like

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a flinch and it produces really dramatic misses really bad you know two way or

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contact misses like it's it's unpredictable so I've had what's uh the

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the question that Ryan asked was about the yip do you have to do a really

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dramatic change because some people will say if you got the yips you got a you

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know switch the left-handed or close your eyes or change grips if it's truly

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focal dystonia absolutely getting as far away from that motor pattern as

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possible is the easiest way to correct it if it's more of this anxiety built

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fear pattern sometimes those big changes work because it makes it different

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enough especially if that big change helps it out so I'll give you an

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example on of one where that big change could potentially like help balance

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things out better like let's say you had the chipping yips and that was coming

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because you were overly shallow and you know tilting behind the golf ball and

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then you had to kind of flip in order to quickly move the bottom the swing

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forward well some golfers have done well with getting more of a cross hand

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well getting putting that left hand low helps level out the shoulders which

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adds a little bit more steepness which moves the bottom the swing forward which

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helps prevent your steep shallow balance or helps improve your steep shallow

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balance so if you're having the chip yips which I would say I've had more

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people come to me with the what they thought were the chipping yips then the

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putting yips and typically with the chipping yips I can almost predict what's

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gonna be going on typically the upper body is in the lower the upper body is

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well behind the lower body so it's got a fair amount of side bend and axis till

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usually the head is even behind the golf ball and then because the body is in

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an overly shallow position tilted way behind they're gonna drag the handle in

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order to move the low point forward that takes away bounce so they get kind of

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these chunk shots when they're scared of that chunk shot they pull in but

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because

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they are so shallow they tend to blade it so typically what'll happen with chip

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yips is you have to get the posture a little bit more vertical so shoulders

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staying much more level eliminate the downward movement that helps with the

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pull so get a little bit more of a cast pattern that'll improve the use of the

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bounce the turf interaction and the low point control and then you can

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continue to work on getting let's say some body rotation or body pivot on the

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way through that one's usually a little bit easier than putting with putting

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I've only had a few cases of yips and let's say one of them was true

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neurological so we had to you know go to a long putter to take away what

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the trailhand was doing but frequently or the the other few times that I've

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been able to correct the yips usually what I'm looking for is when there's

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almost like gapping or floating where basically the grip is moving around in

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the hand and kind of creating almost like these little impulses where

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basically the the putter or the putter is pushing against part of the hand

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creating almost like a stretch shorten and then it gets slingshot so getting a

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little bit more I don't want to say even grip pressure because it's not that

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but getting a little bit better hand the grip contact so that it can control

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the face because that's the other thing is oftentimes golfers who have

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really good shaft lean really good lower body dynamics with their full swing

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are you still having the putter come in in more of a open position and then

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rotating it closed with that motorcycle movement or shaft rotation

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but you can't do that in putting the in putting they're so little loft

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that you have to square it more by having the putter pass

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you can't really square it by twisting the club so what they'll end up doing is

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they're coming in open and then at the last second

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they'll whip it closed with more of kind of that flinching movement

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so working on getting a little bit better hand the grip contact

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and working on getting the the arc of the club or the path

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to square the face as opposed to just twisting the club

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those usually work pretty well okay so covered the two major questions

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both from Ryan about the the shank and the yip and i've got a couple other

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questions that kind of came in as a result of these topics so

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if you have any any questions this is when you get me live i love to have

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some discussions so if you want to put them in the

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chat box i will look for them but i have a question from Steven

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yes do i need to adjust the amount of motorcycle

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for the longer clubs this is um i'm going to say

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yes with a caveat so we'll we'll talk through it a little bit

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um with the with the longer clubs you will typically see

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earlier shaft rotation so when i look at 3d of let's say a nine iron of a

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tour pro the club face is typically not rotating

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a whole lot during that early part um and then down during the release it's

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closing a lot faster where with the driver with the

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longer clubs it's definitely rotating a bit more early in

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transition so that's that motorcycle movement

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so that they've got the the club face already in a good position so that

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then they can more or less um rotate and control the

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strike with the body pivot the example i give that

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or the the metaphor i use is um with a longer club has a whole lot more

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inertia so it's harder to make when it when it's

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moving fast um it's longer it essentially weighs

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more it's hard to make a rapid change to it

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it's almost as if i had like a 20 pound 25 pound weight in my hand

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and i swung it back like i was going to do a bowling action

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and i was going to throw it and then at the last second i wanted to change

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directions right it would be it would be really

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tough to have a dramatic change on the trajectory that

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25 pound weight especially if i waited to change it until

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right at the very end that's more like the driver

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the iron is shorter um and it doesn't have quite the same uh

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you know it doesn't have the the same amount of resistance

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so what i use the example of like if i had a five pound weight in my hand

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and if i had a five pound weight and i would get it swing yeah it's got some

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momentum going towards the target but then at the last second i could

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probably change it pretty quickly so if the if the club is coming in an

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open position because you haven't done a lot of the motorcycle

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with a shorter club it will be easier to kind of time that

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um where with the with the um the longer club when you've got

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uh more resistance you've got to start getting it lined up sooner

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also the longer clubs are naturally flatter and the flatter something is

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the more it points the club face out to the right it opens the club face so

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you have to counterbalance that by getting the club face closed earlier

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um because you can't use what you could do with an iron with an iron you can

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close the face by getting steep but with a driver because it's built on

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more of a flat lie um that that wouldn't work with

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kind of the the design of the club and it's got so little loft that if you

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squared it by getting steep you just kind of hit this warm burner so then

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you have to hold the face open it uh it becomes a big problem

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okay i see a uh question coming in from Don uh

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seem to have those shanks lately uh good hopefully you got to hear that first

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part um what causes early extension i'm assuming a

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lack of rotation um okay so here's the hard thing with

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early extension early extension does three things

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that are helpful for hitting a golf ball it helps shallow it out because uh

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oftentimes golfers get steep and when you back up you create a greater

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distance between your chest and the the golf ball and it'll allow you to

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straighten your arms and the wider i get it the

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the straighter i get my arms that helps um

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shallow out the club because it's swinging on a

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uh circle that has a wider radius so it's got less of a change direction and

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it's lowering the ground coming into it therefore it is more shallow

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the other thing it helps do is it helps square the club face so early extension

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by getting the arm to straighten will get the club

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to twist closed um so oftentimes golfers who early

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extension or who struggle with early extension will come in with the club

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face open and they'll use that late early extension

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to get the club face to shut um so the hard thing is golfers who

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are struggling with early extension oftentimes have to feel that rotation of

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the club but they often struggle with hooking it

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because they let the club pass um so if you're

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shanking with the early extension check to see like look on video and see if

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the

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club is well open at shaft parallel if that's the

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case then you probably need to get more shaft rotation in order to um help

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avoid the early extension um otherwise it could be um

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something as simple as yes working on a good follow through position working on

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a position where you have more body rotation um when the shaft is parallel

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in the follow through uh because if you if you tend to stall your body with

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that

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early extension so it stays facing the golf ball

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that'll get the path and the hand path both going out

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towards the target line and that combination is going to move the

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hosel out there uh nine ninety nine times out of ten

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um and so that actually transitions well into um a

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question I had from Sean uh one of the members of the site

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he was asking about early extension he said his early extension went away

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um from some of his uh his work here with a few of our drills

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but now he's worried that um his legs are bent at impact so he's

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he's been able to get his chest to be more down but now

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here we'll do it this way he's been able to get his chest more down but now

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coming into impact he has a little bit more of

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kind of that soft bend look where he used to have those legs straightening

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but his upper body would go with it um that's usually a sign that you're

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you're stabilizing and getting the pressure from more of the quad

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going uh so the pressure through that lead foot going more into the quad as

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opposed to into the glute um that by itself is not

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a dramatic problem um

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i would say that it's something to monitor so it depends how long you've

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been um like working on your chest thing now

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i never like to move on too quickly i want you to

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let the pattern kind of organize and gel a little bit

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so if you've been let's say just recently uh improving your chest staying down

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you should probably work on that and not really worry too much about the

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lead leg buckling on the way through or bending on the way through

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that being said that lead leg bending on the way through

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long term is going to tend to cause more of a steep angle of attack

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so getting some better bracing can help eliminate maybe

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some pulls and some pull hooks and would help eliminate some diggy contact

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um so by getting that bracing that'll tend to move the hand path a little

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bit more around and that'll tend to create a

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little bit more of shallowness from side bend

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and that could improve the miss pattern especially

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uh where i'd be looking would be more like the

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fairway woods or long irons if you still play

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uh okay thoughts on training aids specifically the motorcycle movement

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and the device like the hanger um i

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so we'll probably do another one on stages of learning stages of creating

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awareness i like training aids but i like them

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only for a very short amount of time usually at the beginning of

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getting used to a new pattern so the problem with the training aid is

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they're usually somewhat expensive and you buy it and you feel like you have to

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use it a lot in order to you know justify the fact that you bought it

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where you usually only want to use it for

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let's say five to ten minutes and then put it away for a while and try to take

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what you felt and what you experienced and then try to recreate it

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without the benefit of the the training aid um

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because i'll i'll do another video on it at some point but there's basically

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four stages to building awareness um there's

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using an external um uh reference they call trains and dental reference so

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let's say let's say i'm working on posture because that's a really easy one

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so let's say i've got a stick or a wall behind me and i get my back flat up

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against the wall that's i know that the wall is fixed so my

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brain's gonna buy into it it's not gonna argue that the wall is crooked so it

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knows that that's straight so there i can maybe get straight posture

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but with this fixed external reference the next stage would be

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using um like outside scepter so basically using like

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my eyes or someone touching me so that's where training aids fit in they're in

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one of these first two early categories so like let's say i had a mirror or a

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camera on me and so i was sitting there and like well

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man i feel straight but i can see on the video that i'm not straight so i

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correct it that would be stage two where it's

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instantly i'm i'm getting a visual receptor or

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feel receptor basically i'm able to um see or feel where i'm wrong but i don't

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have an external reference that i can rely on

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the next stage would be um just using my imagination so that would be more like

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okay i feel straight but someone just told me

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that i'm not straight he didn't tell me if i'm not straight this way or i'm not

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straight this way i have to figure it out and then

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the last uh stage would be let's say i could control it when

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someone um told me you know they say that i'm not straight and i

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i fixed my posture the next stage would be fixing my posture

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and doing something else so it's like uh

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come uh you know complex movement so now i'm doing

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i'm fixing my posture and i'm running forward and running side to side like

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i have to do all these other things while keeping my posture

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the hard thing is that the golf swing really fits into that third category

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because you have to do a couple things at once

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so if you use the training aid to say work on the motorcycle

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that's good for stage one training but then you need to

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progress through to stage two stage three stage four

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before it's really going to show up on the golf course

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so what can happen is you get a you do a training aid

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you get better results with your practice but you haven't

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walked through the the progress of how to train the brain

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for the complex model it's going to need on the course

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so then you hit worst shots on the course compared to practice and that

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creates a frustration yet um that's my only criticism with

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training it's is you have to understand what they're good at

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and where they are created okay um question in or comment in from

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out of nowhere axis and spine tilt are a very unnatural move through the ball

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just go with it and work on clearing the hips and early extension will clear

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up um so i always point out that you you know

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hitting the wall solidly is a balance of your steeps and shallows and

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rotation is a steepener so if you're already steep and that early extension

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is when your main ways of shallowing it then if you eliminate early extension

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that makes it steeper and if you add rotation that makes it steeper

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um so you've got to add some shallows somewhere else

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it's either going to be axis tilt or something with the arms

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um most tour pros do it more with the axis tilt

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okay uh ben hogan blades 55 years old champions tour

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sidebed video added nine yards carry in 17 17 yards overall to my drives

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thank you you're very welcome um i can't tell you how often i i hear

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golfers come in when they're struggling with their driver

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and they're really trying to get their weight and their upper body on top of

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that front leg you know kind of that old jimmy ballard style of just

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or you know finishing in a vertical posture

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towards the golf ball so i'm happy to uh to help

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um support the the hangback or getting a little bit better line of pressure

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where your upper body is behind your lower body behind your foot

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um to balance out the pole of the club and create a little more shallow angle

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attack i see improvements like that 20 yards

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nine yards carry in pretty quickly um especially for

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55 year olds pretty good job okay out of nowhere do you think

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aiming one fin one inch in front of the ball helps with wall first contact

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um yes especially especially for um some golfers are

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more visual dominant than others um i'm i personally am more field dominant so

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i almost lose visual awareness over the wall i kind of see it in my peripheral

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i'm not really overly focused but i've had a lot of guys who are

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very visual and um especially at first

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focusing a little bit in front of the golf ball can be helpful what i usually

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do is i'll i'll do something simple like the line drill

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and figure out what do you have to think about in order to

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get the club to bottom out a little bit in front of the golf ball

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and for many of them they'll just say well i looked there

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um and then when they get to the golf ball i say well where were you looking

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and they'll say the back of the wall so i'll say okay well

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when you were hitting the ground where we wanted you were looking here

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and or you know bring my hand out so when we were hitting the ground where we

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wanted you were looking here and then you went to hit a golf ball and you

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moved your focus to there so um looking one inch in front of the golf ball

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can be very helpful uh what what you have to be careful with

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is some golfers that look more one inch in front of the golf ball

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tend to get a little bit more of a lunge with their upper body to move the

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bottom of swing forward so if you do that and

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let's say you're hitting either um deeper divots or you're hitting kind of

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wipey cuts um then make sure that you're not

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getting your look ahead of the golf ball by by lunging

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that would be my only caution with that um Ned your website and new book are

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fantastic any chance you might add a strength and

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flexibility portion to your website any chance i would say

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yes there is a chance um i've been studying under uh gee voié for the

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last few years and i've i've developed a whole new appreciation

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for how detailed it is to do proper stretching

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um to the point where it is i'd say it's almost impossible

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to get someone to stretch perfectly um through website and i kind of i'm a

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little bit of a unless i can do it right i don't want to try it at all so i'm a

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little hesitant with that but i'll see what i'll see what i can come up with

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over over this next uh you know six eight months or so

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um because i know that it's a it is an important part i'm you know

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i was just put on the golf digest uh top fitness trainer list um i do believe

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in uh strengthen flexibility as part of training for golf

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but it's tricky to do through online it's a lot easier to get people to

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improve their swings online than it is to stretch properly

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um all right kevin golf at what stage in the downswing do you like to see

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side tilt kick in and where does it maximize um

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the uh so the side tilt will usually there's a

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there's a reason why i kind of break this wing into transition and then release

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at the end of transition so somewhere kind of around here

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is usually when shoulders are level pelvis is square um and i've reached as

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much flexion as i'm going to go into so from here i'm basically

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going to go into side bend extension as i continue rotating so the side bend

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really starts to kick in after that initial movement there

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um so after that little left tilt gets that pressure

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it'll start going into the side bend and it'll reach its maximum

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usually by follow through position so when the when the shaft is

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roughly parallel in the follow through that's when most golfers will reach

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their maximum side bend good question also love the book

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wish there was one for instructors uh stay tuned we're working on stuff

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um okay moto x um bend myers right arm is

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longer than left due to surgeries do you on what would you help me

471
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impact um all right so i just had a student

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who uh flew in here who had a similar situation where he broke his radius

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and through the healing process his right arm was maybe about this much

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shorter um we did a lot of right arm training

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because what was happening was the the left arm was bending a little bit

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um basically is a protection from getting pulled out by the right arm so

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he had a little bit of an extra scoop or flip to it

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we started with the right arm training and then

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we went into left wrist training but we were a little bit

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uh less less picky on doing the left arm

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stuff perfectly um so getting getting more of the

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trail arm trail shoulder working perfectly

483
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was uh a big part of the the pattern um so i would definitely look at the

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single arm drills the the right arm only um the right arm shot put whatever you

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need to do to get that right arm working

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i don't want to say cleanly uh but

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i've found in the past that it's easier to train the good

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arm than to struggle too much with uh the bad arm you basically just make sure

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have to make sure that the bad arm is not so bad

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that it messes up with the good arms trying to do

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um so it's not a um it's going to change a little bit of

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the look you'll probably have more of a look of almost like a Chad Campbell

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or um even say a Jordan Spieth where the right arm gets fully extended that

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would be one of my big follow through keys more so than the left arm being

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perfect just working on making sure that left

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wrist isn't sa- isn't sabotaging the right arm extension

497
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okay uh i got one more question coming in um we got

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ben hogan blades what is the best thing to work on indoors during the winter

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so if uh what i usually like to work on in the winter

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is the stuff that is the hardest to do during the season

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um and that's a little bit case by case so i usually

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break golfers into two categories you're either

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really good with your body and kind of unaware of your hands

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or you're really good with your hands and kind of unaware of your body

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whichever one you're unaware of i usually

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train harder in the off season um and because

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you can do a lot of good stuff indoors so

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that's why i have drills on the website on isolating the body pivots isolating

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how the legs work or isolating what the arms do

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um the other thing that you can work on

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indoors during the off season um is you can really work on your fitness if you

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've

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got somebody in your area who's really good and can teach you how to

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stretch properly um i love aldellas they're

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they're great for spine health um i've been studying them the last few years

516
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and have a really good success with that um especially for golfers who have

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l5 s1 back pain stuff um so that's good things to do uh

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during the winter um the uh the things that i think

519
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are harder to work on during the winter um

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i think it's harder to work on a lot of like the shot shaping skills like the

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fine-tuning trajectory control um especially

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you know if you're working indoors obviously you don't have any of that

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um what usually ends up happening is when you're practicing indoors

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your feet have a much uh better connection to the ground than when

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you're on grass it's almost like the difference between

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doing uh beach volleyball versus indoor volleyball

527
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right so what frequently happens is if you do a ton of indoor practice

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and then you go out onto the course and the grass is especially this time of

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year it's usually a little bit sogier um because of

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you know you have a melted snow or or whatever um

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you'll tend to not be able to use your pivot quite as well which tends to

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affect low point um so i tend to work on kind of the

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the bigger more challenging skills during the winter

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knowing that we're gonna have a little bit of sacrifice probably in

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in scoring um all right i see you're uh so you like to practice impact drills

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but uh everyone is lacking in in different areas

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yeah i mean the the golf swing is definitely

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let's say um complicated to say the least

539
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and so understanding your keys is really important um

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so impact drills low point drills those can be

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pretty good um but during the winter i think is the best time to get

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a little bit more technical during the season i like to get

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i like to spend a little bit more time with skill building

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um less so than um less so than kind of your fine

545
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motor your precision stuff David Howe one of my

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old Denver students it's going to be 10 degrees high at broken tee this weekend

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uh yeah here in california i mean it was only it only got up to like 65 you

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can see i'm in a sweater um so it's uh it's pretty tough out here too

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we we can both we we're both feeling the the winter

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pain um okay so i'm gonna i'm gonna wrap this up

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i appreciate any questions if you want to uh email questions i can

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start creating a list for the next one of these that i'll do

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um they seem to be seem to be fun and well received

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and uh gives me a good chance to interact with some of you who i i don't

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get to see personally if you haven't checked out

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either the website or the book always reference uh this is the the book that's

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available on amazon stock tour swing if you read it and like it i would

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really appreciate any reviews that you can give

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those those help me figure out what we need to do better for the next version

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and then we're constantly updating you know creating new videos based on your

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questions and we got some fun stuff coming in the

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in the mix for 2018 so thank you all for uh for your support and for joining me

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on this uh question and answer uh please send me any any feedback and any other

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questions that you have they'll help us get ready

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for next time um until then go practice with a

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purpose and uh as always happy golfing

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Understanding Shanks and Yips: Causes and Solutions

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the primary causes of shanks and yips in your swing
  • Learn how grip and hand path influence your ball striking
  • Understand the mental aspects of dealing with the yips on the course

In this live Q&A, we dive into the common issues of shanks and yips, uncovering their causes and how to address them effectively. Join us to gain insights that can help improve your game.

Video Transcript
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want to thank you. Here we'll angle this down a little bit. I want to thank you

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for coming to our live Q&A about the shanks and the yips. So these are these

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are mostly going to be Galsmar Academy members but we're answering Galsmar

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Academy member questions but if you are you know having it if I'm saying

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something about whether it's the shanks or the yips and you got a

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quick question about it go ahead and type something in the chat and I will

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address it as we go through. So we'll we'll start with the shanks because I

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think that they're a fun topic and they're they're kind of a taboo topic

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nobody really likes to talk about them or even address them you know there's

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that famous tin cup scene about they're just like a virus right and nobody

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really knows how to correct them. Well I would say that I probably coach

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someone into the shanks at least once a month or so especially if they're

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coming out of a kind of a casting scoop flip style pattern. Let me just see if

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anybody and we'll see anyone on the chat so if you're if you're here and

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watching just say who you are where you're from real quick because I don't want

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to

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go too far into it and have to start over.

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Okay so we'll go back into the discussion about the shank. So Ryan

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Gossmart Academy member asked about the major cause whether it's more of a

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relationship to the path of the club or whether it's more related to the

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hand path and I'll break that down a little bit but first sorry I was I was

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telling a little story about the coaching people into the shanks so

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oftentimes if you're coming out of a kind of cast scoop pattern right so if

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you're if you're coming out of a pattern where you're basically getting the

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arms

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straight early and then bending them on the way through when you start to work

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on getting a little bit more arm extension it is possible that you can

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start hitting it more on the heel and even shaking the wall because there's

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really two kind of ways that you'll develop the shank. One would be if the

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and I'll do it kind of facing the camera this way so we'll imagine you're the

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target view so one would be if the hosel is simply moving that way so the club

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face starts square like this and it's coming into the ball with the club face

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still square but it's just moved more out towards the golf ball that's option

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number one and then option number two would be okay we start up here the center

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of the club stays at about the same point but now the club faces rotating and

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coming in wide open and so it's hitting the heel there so I would say that of

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the two that first version where the club isn't coming in overly open but

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it's just coming a little bit more out towards the golf ball like so is the

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most common version here's basically what's happening when you're getting

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that version of the chain the path of the club or we'll look at the swing

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plane so if I've got let's let's imagine that instead of the club head I've got

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a weight on the end of the string so I've got a tennis ball in a sock here so

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if

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I'm swinging the weight around me kind of like this my goal is to get that to

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impact where the golf ball was well what can happen is I can get swinging that

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and I can just drift out a little bit kind of like that well that could come

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from one of two primary areas that could either come from just a general weight

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shift and my body shifting more in towards the toes especially if I'm not

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getting a whole lot of rotation if I'm shifting in towards the toes without

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getting rotation that can just move the hand path or the swing path out to the

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golf ball and the other one would be if the trail arm is getting out away and

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straightening too soon so it's kind of going like that that can cause the the

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path of the club to go out that way the the other way that you could look at it

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is not just looking at the path of the weight or the path of the club but

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looking

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at where my hands are along this path so let's say the club is going down

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towards

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the golf ball like this if I have a path that's pointed kind of outside the

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golf

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ball but then my hand path is coming way to the left then I'm probably not

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going

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to shake it I'll probably be okay so it would be going like this but if the

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hand path is coming more around it's going to prevent how far the club is

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swinging away from me where I can get a lot of trouble is if it's swinging

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around

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like this and then my arms are are straightening and they're going with the

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swing of the club and they're going out into the golf ball that can that's one

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of the more common causes for getting that shank pattern to show up especially

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for golfers who used to be really steep in chicken winging and then they get a

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little bit flat and better arm extension time so the question from Ryan is

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basically we have two things either the hands are going too much out or the

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overall path of the club is tilted too much in out which do you go at first I

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would say that the majority of the time I'm gonna go at the hands going more

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out

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and I'm gonna try to get that by staying a little bit more centered in my

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weight

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distribution and working on the pivot on the way through so basically working

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on

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having continued body rotation and basically having the movement of the

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hips and the rib cage start to pull those hands a little bit more around I don

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't

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like the idea of just artificially using the arms to pull them more around into

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the left but if I can use my body turn to get them to go to the left it will

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prevent the club from flying too much into out the other option would be

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essentially trying to tilt the swing path a little bit more vertically because

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it's if it's pointed out a weight out to the outside of the golf ball that's an

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overly shallow position and requires more of that body turn on the way through

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so

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I break it down that's kind of the more the theory as far as how the club works

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so I break it down into a couple different simple body awareness things

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either your weight distribution is moving too much in towards your toes and

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that's causing your hands to get too far out so doing something as simple as

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putting an alignment stick like underneath the toes to make sure that

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you're saying more in the center of your feet that can have a strong enough

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influence or I'll use a pool noodle to make sure that the upper body and the

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head isn't really lunging in towards the golf ball the that would be kind of

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more

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looking at it from the body position orientation the second one will be

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looking at the arm timing and that's usually more of like a tempo drill and

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more of a sequencing drill so I may use like the shank gate just to make golf

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ers

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a little bit more aware and then do something like hitting maybe single arm

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only trying to get the timing of the arm extension to happen a little bit

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after the golf ball as opposed to right before it I see a couple comments

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coming

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in from Ned Germany he had the shanks my fix was to flip it which is one of the

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common ways that you fix the the shank because when you move start you know

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flipping the club back this way it's typically going to work away from the

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widest point he said I had I flipped it for 25 years and the tires help stop

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flipping it I think I shanked it because I didn't realize the toe had to close

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past the heel I used to break driver shafts because I'd hit shots dead off

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the extreme inside of the heel so that gets to the that second kind of shank

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which would be more if you're coming in with the clubface open right so if it's

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swinging more in line with the center of the the mass of the club kind of like

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so

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that heel can really come in towards the golf ball and then even if you close

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late because it was coming in it's gonna be further away so if the pivot stuff

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doesn't work and you're still hitting them off to the right then often times

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what you'll have to do is you'll have to get a little bit more of that

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motorcycle

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timing and you'll have to get a little bit earlier face rotation or as Ned is

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describing letting the toe pass the heel in order to square the face and

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basically move the hosel backwards supposed to be so it's not contacting

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the golf ball too soon so before we get into some of the non-shank and yip

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related questions let's go let's transition to the yips unless there are

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any questions that come in more on the shanks if you're shanking the ball watch

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your weight distribution watch your the timing your arm straightening and watch

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the rotation of the face it could show up in early extension being the weight

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distribution it could show up in getting like overly flat or overly shallow

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the arm path with a club face that's wide open but usually you know shanks

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shouldn't be something that you shouldn't be too afraid of because they're

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usually one of the easier patterns to solve once you break it down which brings

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us next to the yip which the yip is a little bit trickier so I was talking we

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hosted Dr. Debbie Cruz and she had some good research with a guy from the

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Mayo Clinic I think or the Cleveland Clinic and he was talking about he he

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was doing a study where they can actually test you neurologically to see if you

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having a yip basically to see if you're having focal dystonia and what they

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found was about seven percent of the people who were they were testing who

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claimed to have the yips actually had this neurological inputs so what most

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people have the vast majority so let's say 93% of golfers who think that they

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have the yips have more of a anxiety built fear pattern around a shot because

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in order for it to be a true yip in order for it to be focal dystonia it is

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situation independent which means if I have you in the most relaxed state if I

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have you in your living room you know nobody watching just making a little

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putting motion or chipping motion because those are two most common times that

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yip shows up it should show up just as frequently with no pressure and no you

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know nothing on the line no one watching no anxiety as if you had pressure on

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you if it's more a result of I get extra tension because I get nervous that is

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usually more a result of a kind of let's say a a balance or an imbalance in

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steep

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shallows and face closing so basically your face and path relationship are

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fragile enough that if you're off by a little bit you have a really bad mess

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commonly with putting that would be I'm either the cut the putter faces getting

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left open or the path of the club is coming way outside in would be the most

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the two most common that I've seen and so what ends up happening is the yip

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either the club faces open and the yip closes it or the putter path is going to

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the left and the yip kind of straightens out the path but because of the

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anxiety

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because of the tension in the forearms it gets overdone and so it it looks like

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a flinch and it produces really dramatic misses really bad you know two way or

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contact misses like it's it's unpredictable so I've had what's uh the

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the question that Ryan asked was about the yip do you have to do a really

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dramatic change because some people will say if you got the yips you got a you

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know switch the left-handed or close your eyes or change grips if it's truly

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focal dystonia absolutely getting as far away from that motor pattern as

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possible is the easiest way to correct it if it's more of this anxiety built

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fear pattern sometimes those big changes work because it makes it different

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enough especially if that big change helps it out so I'll give you an

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example on of one where that big change could potentially like help balance

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things out better like let's say you had the chipping yips and that was coming

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because you were overly shallow and you know tilting behind the golf ball and

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then you had to kind of flip in order to quickly move the bottom the swing

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forward well some golfers have done well with getting more of a cross hand

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well getting putting that left hand low helps level out the shoulders which

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adds a little bit more steepness which moves the bottom the swing forward which

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helps prevent your steep shallow balance or helps improve your steep shallow

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balance so if you're having the chip yips which I would say I've had more

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people come to me with the what they thought were the chipping yips then the

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putting yips and typically with the chipping yips I can almost predict what's

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gonna be going on typically the upper body is in the lower the upper body is

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well behind the lower body so it's got a fair amount of side bend and axis till

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usually the head is even behind the golf ball and then because the body is in

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an overly shallow position tilted way behind they're gonna drag the handle in

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order to move the low point forward that takes away bounce so they get kind of

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these chunk shots when they're scared of that chunk shot they pull in but

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because

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they are so shallow they tend to blade it so typically what'll happen with chip

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yips is you have to get the posture a little bit more vertical so shoulders

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staying much more level eliminate the downward movement that helps with the

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pull so get a little bit more of a cast pattern that'll improve the use of the

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bounce the turf interaction and the low point control and then you can

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continue to work on getting let's say some body rotation or body pivot on the

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way through that one's usually a little bit easier than putting with putting

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I've only had a few cases of yips and let's say one of them was true

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neurological so we had to you know go to a long putter to take away what

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the trailhand was doing but frequently or the the other few times that I've

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been able to correct the yips usually what I'm looking for is when there's

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almost like gapping or floating where basically the grip is moving around in

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the hand and kind of creating almost like these little impulses where

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basically the the putter or the putter is pushing against part of the hand

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creating almost like a stretch shorten and then it gets slingshot so getting a

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little bit more I don't want to say even grip pressure because it's not that

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but getting a little bit better hand the grip contact so that it can control

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the face because that's the other thing is oftentimes golfers who have

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really good shaft lean really good lower body dynamics with their full swing

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are you still having the putter come in in more of a open position and then

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rotating it closed with that motorcycle movement or shaft rotation

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but you can't do that in putting the in putting they're so little loft

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that you have to square it more by having the putter pass

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you can't really square it by twisting the club so what they'll end up doing is

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they're coming in open and then at the last second

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they'll whip it closed with more of kind of that flinching movement

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so working on getting a little bit better hand the grip contact

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and working on getting the the arc of the club or the path

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to square the face as opposed to just twisting the club

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those usually work pretty well okay so covered the two major questions

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both from Ryan about the the shank and the yip and i've got a couple other

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questions that kind of came in as a result of these topics so

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if you have any any questions this is when you get me live i love to have

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some discussions so if you want to put them in the

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chat box i will look for them but i have a question from Steven

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yes do i need to adjust the amount of motorcycle

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for the longer clubs this is um i'm going to say

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yes with a caveat so we'll we'll talk through it a little bit

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um with the with the longer clubs you will typically see

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earlier shaft rotation so when i look at 3d of let's say a nine iron of a

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tour pro the club face is typically not rotating

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a whole lot during that early part um and then down during the release it's

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closing a lot faster where with the driver with the

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longer clubs it's definitely rotating a bit more early in

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transition so that's that motorcycle movement

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so that they've got the the club face already in a good position so that

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then they can more or less um rotate and control the

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strike with the body pivot the example i give that

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or the the metaphor i use is um with a longer club has a whole lot more

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inertia so it's harder to make when it when it's

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moving fast um it's longer it essentially weighs

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more it's hard to make a rapid change to it

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it's almost as if i had like a 20 pound 25 pound weight in my hand

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and i swung it back like i was going to do a bowling action

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and i was going to throw it and then at the last second i wanted to change

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directions right it would be it would be really

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tough to have a dramatic change on the trajectory that

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25 pound weight especially if i waited to change it until

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right at the very end that's more like the driver

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the iron is shorter um and it doesn't have quite the same uh

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you know it doesn't have the the same amount of resistance

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so what i use the example of like if i had a five pound weight in my hand

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and if i had a five pound weight and i would get it swing yeah it's got some

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momentum going towards the target but then at the last second i could

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probably change it pretty quickly so if the if the club is coming in an

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open position because you haven't done a lot of the motorcycle

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with a shorter club it will be easier to kind of time that

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um where with the with the um the longer club when you've got

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uh more resistance you've got to start getting it lined up sooner

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also the longer clubs are naturally flatter and the flatter something is

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the more it points the club face out to the right it opens the club face so

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you have to counterbalance that by getting the club face closed earlier

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um because you can't use what you could do with an iron with an iron you can

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close the face by getting steep but with a driver because it's built on

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more of a flat lie um that that wouldn't work with

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kind of the the design of the club and it's got so little loft that if you

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squared it by getting steep you just kind of hit this warm burner so then

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you have to hold the face open it uh it becomes a big problem

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okay i see a uh question coming in from Don uh

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seem to have those shanks lately uh good hopefully you got to hear that first

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part um what causes early extension i'm assuming a

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lack of rotation um okay so here's the hard thing with

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early extension early extension does three things

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that are helpful for hitting a golf ball it helps shallow it out because uh

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oftentimes golfers get steep and when you back up you create a greater

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distance between your chest and the the golf ball and it'll allow you to

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straighten your arms and the wider i get it the

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the straighter i get my arms that helps um

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shallow out the club because it's swinging on a

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uh circle that has a wider radius so it's got less of a change direction and

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it's lowering the ground coming into it therefore it is more shallow

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the other thing it helps do is it helps square the club face so early extension

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by getting the arm to straighten will get the club

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to twist closed um so oftentimes golfers who early

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extension or who struggle with early extension will come in with the club

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face open and they'll use that late early extension

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to get the club face to shut um so the hard thing is golfers who

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are struggling with early extension oftentimes have to feel that rotation of

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the club but they often struggle with hooking it

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because they let the club pass um so if you're

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shanking with the early extension check to see like look on video and see if

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the

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club is well open at shaft parallel if that's the

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case then you probably need to get more shaft rotation in order to um help

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avoid the early extension um otherwise it could be um

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something as simple as yes working on a good follow through position working on

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a position where you have more body rotation um when the shaft is parallel

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in the follow through uh because if you if you tend to stall your body with

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early extension so it stays facing the golf ball

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that'll get the path and the hand path both going out

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towards the target line and that combination is going to move the

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hosel out there uh nine ninety nine times out of ten

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um and so that actually transitions well into um a

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question I had from Sean uh one of the members of the site

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he was asking about early extension he said his early extension went away

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um from some of his uh his work here with a few of our drills

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but now he's worried that um his legs are bent at impact so he's

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he's been able to get his chest to be more down but now

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here we'll do it this way he's been able to get his chest more down but now

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coming into impact he has a little bit more of

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kind of that soft bend look where he used to have those legs straightening

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but his upper body would go with it um that's usually a sign that you're

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you're stabilizing and getting the pressure from more of the quad

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going uh so the pressure through that lead foot going more into the quad as

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opposed to into the glute um that by itself is not

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a dramatic problem um

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i would say that it's something to monitor so it depends how long you've

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been um like working on your chest thing now

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i never like to move on too quickly i want you to

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let the pattern kind of organize and gel a little bit

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so if you've been let's say just recently uh improving your chest staying down

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you should probably work on that and not really worry too much about the

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lead leg buckling on the way through or bending on the way through

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that being said that lead leg bending on the way through

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long term is going to tend to cause more of a steep angle of attack

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so getting some better bracing can help eliminate maybe

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some pulls and some pull hooks and would help eliminate some diggy contact

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um so by getting that bracing that'll tend to move the hand path a little

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bit more around and that'll tend to create a

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little bit more of shallowness from side bend

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and that could improve the miss pattern especially

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uh where i'd be looking would be more like the

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fairway woods or long irons if you still play

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uh okay thoughts on training aids specifically the motorcycle movement

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and the device like the hanger um i

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so we'll probably do another one on stages of learning stages of creating

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awareness i like training aids but i like them

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only for a very short amount of time usually at the beginning of

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getting used to a new pattern so the problem with the training aid is

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they're usually somewhat expensive and you buy it and you feel like you have to

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use it a lot in order to you know justify the fact that you bought it

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where you usually only want to use it for

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let's say five to ten minutes and then put it away for a while and try to take

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what you felt and what you experienced and then try to recreate it

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without the benefit of the the training aid um

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because i'll i'll do another video on it at some point but there's basically

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four stages to building awareness um there's

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using an external um uh reference they call trains and dental reference so

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let's say let's say i'm working on posture because that's a really easy one

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so let's say i've got a stick or a wall behind me and i get my back flat up

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against the wall that's i know that the wall is fixed so my

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brain's gonna buy into it it's not gonna argue that the wall is crooked so it

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knows that that's straight so there i can maybe get straight posture

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but with this fixed external reference the next stage would be

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using um like outside scepter so basically using like

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my eyes or someone touching me so that's where training aids fit in they're in

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one of these first two early categories so like let's say i had a mirror or a

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camera on me and so i was sitting there and like well

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man i feel straight but i can see on the video that i'm not straight so i

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correct it that would be stage two where it's

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instantly i'm i'm getting a visual receptor or

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feel receptor basically i'm able to um see or feel where i'm wrong but i don't

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have an external reference that i can rely on

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the next stage would be um just using my imagination so that would be more like

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okay i feel straight but someone just told me

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that i'm not straight he didn't tell me if i'm not straight this way or i'm not

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straight this way i have to figure it out and then

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the last uh stage would be let's say i could control it when

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someone um told me you know they say that i'm not straight and i

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i fixed my posture the next stage would be fixing my posture

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and doing something else so it's like uh

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come uh you know complex movement so now i'm doing

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i'm fixing my posture and i'm running forward and running side to side like

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i have to do all these other things while keeping my posture

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the hard thing is that the golf swing really fits into that third category

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because you have to do a couple things at once

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so if you use the training aid to say work on the motorcycle

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that's good for stage one training but then you need to

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progress through to stage two stage three stage four

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before it's really going to show up on the golf course

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so what can happen is you get a you do a training aid

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you get better results with your practice but you haven't

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walked through the the progress of how to train the brain

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for the complex model it's going to need on the course

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so then you hit worst shots on the course compared to practice and that

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creates a frustration yet um that's my only criticism with

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training it's is you have to understand what they're good at

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and where they are created okay um question in or comment in from

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out of nowhere axis and spine tilt are a very unnatural move through the ball

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just go with it and work on clearing the hips and early extension will clear

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up um so i always point out that you you know

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hitting the wall solidly is a balance of your steeps and shallows and

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rotation is a steepener so if you're already steep and that early extension

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is when your main ways of shallowing it then if you eliminate early extension

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that makes it steeper and if you add rotation that makes it steeper

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um so you've got to add some shallows somewhere else

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it's either going to be axis tilt or something with the arms

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um most tour pros do it more with the axis tilt

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okay uh ben hogan blades 55 years old champions tour

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sidebed video added nine yards carry in 17 17 yards overall to my drives

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thank you you're very welcome um i can't tell you how often i i hear

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golfers come in when they're struggling with their driver

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and they're really trying to get their weight and their upper body on top of

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that front leg you know kind of that old jimmy ballard style of just

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or you know finishing in a vertical posture

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towards the golf ball so i'm happy to uh to help

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um support the the hangback or getting a little bit better line of pressure

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where your upper body is behind your lower body behind your foot

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um to balance out the pole of the club and create a little more shallow angle

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attack i see improvements like that 20 yards

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nine yards carry in pretty quickly um especially for

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55 year olds pretty good job okay out of nowhere do you think

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aiming one fin one inch in front of the ball helps with wall first contact

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um yes especially especially for um some golfers are

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more visual dominant than others um i'm i personally am more field dominant so

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i almost lose visual awareness over the wall i kind of see it in my peripheral

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i'm not really overly focused but i've had a lot of guys who are

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very visual and um especially at first

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focusing a little bit in front of the golf ball can be helpful what i usually

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do is i'll i'll do something simple like the line drill

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and figure out what do you have to think about in order to

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get the club to bottom out a little bit in front of the golf ball

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and for many of them they'll just say well i looked there

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um and then when they get to the golf ball i say well where were you looking

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and they'll say the back of the wall so i'll say okay well

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when you were hitting the ground where we wanted you were looking here

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and or you know bring my hand out so when we were hitting the ground where we

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wanted you were looking here and then you went to hit a golf ball and you

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moved your focus to there so um looking one inch in front of the golf ball

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can be very helpful uh what what you have to be careful with

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is some golfers that look more one inch in front of the golf ball

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tend to get a little bit more of a lunge with their upper body to move the

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bottom of swing forward so if you do that and

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let's say you're hitting either um deeper divots or you're hitting kind of

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wipey cuts um then make sure that you're not

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getting your look ahead of the golf ball by by lunging

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that would be my only caution with that um Ned your website and new book are

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fantastic any chance you might add a strength and

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flexibility portion to your website any chance i would say

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yes there is a chance um i've been studying under uh gee voié for the

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last few years and i've i've developed a whole new appreciation

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for how detailed it is to do proper stretching

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um to the point where it is i'd say it's almost impossible

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to get someone to stretch perfectly um through website and i kind of i'm a

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little bit of a unless i can do it right i don't want to try it at all so i'm a

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little hesitant with that but i'll see what i'll see what i can come up with

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over over this next uh you know six eight months or so

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um because i know that it's a it is an important part i'm you know

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i was just put on the golf digest uh top fitness trainer list um i do believe

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in uh strengthen flexibility as part of training for golf

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but it's tricky to do through online it's a lot easier to get people to

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improve their swings online than it is to stretch properly

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um all right kevin golf at what stage in the downswing do you like to see

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side tilt kick in and where does it maximize um

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the uh so the side tilt will usually there's a

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there's a reason why i kind of break this wing into transition and then release

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at the end of transition so somewhere kind of around here

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is usually when shoulders are level pelvis is square um and i've reached as

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much flexion as i'm going to go into so from here i'm basically

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going to go into side bend extension as i continue rotating so the side bend

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really starts to kick in after that initial movement there

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um so after that little left tilt gets that pressure

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it'll start going into the side bend and it'll reach its maximum

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usually by follow through position so when the when the shaft is

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roughly parallel in the follow through that's when most golfers will reach

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their maximum side bend good question also love the book

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wish there was one for instructors uh stay tuned we're working on stuff

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um okay moto x um bend myers right arm is

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longer than left due to surgeries do you on what would you help me

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impact um all right so i just had a student

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who uh flew in here who had a similar situation where he broke his radius

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and through the healing process his right arm was maybe about this much

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shorter um we did a lot of right arm training

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because what was happening was the the left arm was bending a little bit

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um basically is a protection from getting pulled out by the right arm so

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he had a little bit of an extra scoop or flip to it

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we started with the right arm training and then

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we went into left wrist training but we were a little bit

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uh less less picky on doing the left arm

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stuff perfectly um so getting getting more of the

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trail arm trail shoulder working perfectly

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was uh a big part of the the pattern um so i would definitely look at the

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single arm drills the the right arm only um the right arm shot put whatever you

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need to do to get that right arm working

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i don't want to say cleanly uh but

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i've found in the past that it's easier to train the good

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arm than to struggle too much with uh the bad arm you basically just make sure

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have to make sure that the bad arm is not so bad

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that it messes up with the good arms trying to do

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um so it's not a um it's going to change a little bit of

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the look you'll probably have more of a look of almost like a Chad Campbell

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or um even say a Jordan Spieth where the right arm gets fully extended that

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would be one of my big follow through keys more so than the left arm being

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perfect just working on making sure that left

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wrist isn't sa- isn't sabotaging the right arm extension

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okay uh i got one more question coming in um we got

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ben hogan blades what is the best thing to work on indoors during the winter

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so if uh what i usually like to work on in the winter

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is the stuff that is the hardest to do during the season

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um and that's a little bit case by case so i usually

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break golfers into two categories you're either

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really good with your body and kind of unaware of your hands

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or you're really good with your hands and kind of unaware of your body

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whichever one you're unaware of i usually

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train harder in the off season um and because

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you can do a lot of good stuff indoors so

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that's why i have drills on the website on isolating the body pivots isolating

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how the legs work or isolating what the arms do

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um the other thing that you can work on

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indoors during the off season um is you can really work on your fitness if you

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've

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got somebody in your area who's really good and can teach you how to

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stretch properly um i love aldellas they're

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they're great for spine health um i've been studying them the last few years

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and have a really good success with that um especially for golfers who have

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l5 s1 back pain stuff um so that's good things to do uh

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during the winter um the uh the things that i think

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are harder to work on during the winter um

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i think it's harder to work on a lot of like the shot shaping skills like the

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fine-tuning trajectory control um especially

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you know if you're working indoors obviously you don't have any of that

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um what usually ends up happening is when you're practicing indoors

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your feet have a much uh better connection to the ground than when

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you're on grass it's almost like the difference between

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doing uh beach volleyball versus indoor volleyball

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right so what frequently happens is if you do a ton of indoor practice

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and then you go out onto the course and the grass is especially this time of

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year it's usually a little bit sogier um because of

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you know you have a melted snow or or whatever um

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you'll tend to not be able to use your pivot quite as well which tends to

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affect low point um so i tend to work on kind of the

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the bigger more challenging skills during the winter

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knowing that we're gonna have a little bit of sacrifice probably in

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in scoring um all right i see you're uh so you like to practice impact drills

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but uh everyone is lacking in in different areas

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yeah i mean the the golf swing is definitely

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let's say um complicated to say the least

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and so understanding your keys is really important um

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so impact drills low point drills those can be

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pretty good um but during the winter i think is the best time to get

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a little bit more technical during the season i like to get

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i like to spend a little bit more time with skill building

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um less so than um less so than kind of your fine

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motor your precision stuff David Howe one of my

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old Denver students it's going to be 10 degrees high at broken tee this weekend

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uh yeah here in california i mean it was only it only got up to like 65 you

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can see i'm in a sweater um so it's uh it's pretty tough out here too

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we we can both we we're both feeling the the winter

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pain um okay so i'm gonna i'm gonna wrap this up

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i appreciate any questions if you want to uh email questions i can

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start creating a list for the next one of these that i'll do

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um they seem to be seem to be fun and well received

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and uh gives me a good chance to interact with some of you who i i don't

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get to see personally if you haven't checked out

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either the website or the book always reference uh this is the the book that's

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available on amazon stock tour swing if you read it and like it i would

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really appreciate any reviews that you can give

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those those help me figure out what we need to do better for the next version

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and then we're constantly updating you know creating new videos based on your

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questions and we got some fun stuff coming in the

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in the mix for 2018 so thank you all for uh for your support and for joining me

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on this uh question and answer uh please send me any any feedback and any other

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questions that you have they'll help us get ready

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for next time um until then go practice with a

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purpose and uh as always happy golfing

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