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Live Q & A - Big Moves - March 18, 2018
Live Q&A discussing the Motorcycle, Jackson 5, Arm shallow and more..
Live Q&A discussing the Motorcycle, Jackson 5, Arm shallow and more..
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alright guys I think we've got
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everything up and running I'm coming to
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you live from Montreal just finished
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taking a giveaway class so I'm really
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constantly trying to learn and get
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better and I think he's one of the
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smartest guys as far as how the body
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works and how different parts relate to
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each other I think I got the microphone
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all good but please
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I'll check the comments let me know if
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there's any problems with the audio had
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it once before and would hate to go too
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far down the rabbit hole having it again
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but I want to thank everybody who's here
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trying to get some questions answered if
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you have a second just post your name
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we're in your location in the chat box
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and if you have any questions please
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list them there I will I'll check into
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that as we go through I've got a good
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list of questions from the the members
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of the website who sent in their emails
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beforehand and so we will let's get into
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stuff so I don't have my mini golf club
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I'm staying in an air B&B
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so I'm gonna be using my one of the
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kitchen utensils which is a great way
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for at home training clubface control
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definitely one of my go-to training aids
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I actually like or practice age I should
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say I actually like the flat section of
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for the grip or the flat handle very
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much like the messing around with a
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ruler so alright anyway let's jump into
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some of these questions so Vaughn asked
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about the 2040 takeaway No
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so in he's been doing the 2040 takeaway
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which is basically when you make your
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backswing and you get to about shaft
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parallel having your your hips turned
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about 20 degrees for shoulders turn
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40 degrees he compared that to in the
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past he's tried to do more of everything
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turning together in the backswing and
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he's he was asking success or he's
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having success and he was basically
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asking for permission which a lot of my
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students do you know there's so much
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conflicting information out there that
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just having someone you can go to and
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say does this make sense is this
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something I should keep working on can
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be helpful especially in the early
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stages of learning
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so yes the he was talking about how it
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seems to improve his transitions
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sequencing the danger of the hips over
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rotating and the club getting too much
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inside or I should say the danger of
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over rotating and using too much lower
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body is that the club can get too much
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inside so if everything turns the club
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can get too much inside during the
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takeaway and the problem is if the club
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gets too much inside and the golf balls
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out there I'm now going to have to start
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pulling too much in the direction the
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target and that can lead into an early
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extension pattern so a lot of golfers
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benefit from getting more of a feeling
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of a one-piece takeaway we're using a
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little bit more of their upper body not
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just the hips in the takeaway when they
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do that they're able to keep their
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weight distribution a little bit easier
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and it's not uncommon to then have
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improved sequencing in transition
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so absolutely Vaughn you've got my
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permission to continue with it had a
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good had a question from Glen Glen was
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asking about two of the hot topics so
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this the theme of this class is more the
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big movements of the golf swing so a lot
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of the questions that came in were
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relating to either the motorcycle or
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transition sequence or weight shift so I
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thought that I'd just kind of wrap them
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all together and make the big theme
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about the big movements well his
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question
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was about two of the hot topics in golf
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instruction being external rotation and
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twisting the club or what we were
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referred to as the motorcycle and he was
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basically asking you know what are my
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thoughts on those two I use those as
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part of my teaching transition is a key
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differentiator between elite level
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golfers and amateur golfers or poor
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level golfers there are patterns that
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Tour Pros tend to do in transition to
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help create speed and control the path
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and two of the major pieces that really
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jump out are the arm shallowing or the
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center of mass of the club getting
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behind or below the hand path so getting
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the club to drop a little bit more on
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the inside compared to where the hands
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are going an earlier clubface rotation
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or earlier twisting or squaring of the
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clubface those two patterns seem to be
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integral in to having more of a body
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rotation pattern on the way through so
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that's part of the reason why you see a
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lot of golf instruction kind of training
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towards those two key movements now I
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always one of my goals is to help
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golfers understand how pieces match
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together so that you're not trying to
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necessarily create a perfect golf swing
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but you're trying to build the ability
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to adapt by understanding how pieces fit
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together
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so the the arm shallowing and the
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clubface rotation works well with a body
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powered swing which then works well with
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kind of a delayed arm extension timing
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and a good body rotation on the way
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through so all these pieces need to fit
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together but the two key move key
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movements of arm shallowing and face
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rotation during transition tend to be a
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couple of the early downswing patterns
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that jump out at us
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when you look at the numbers so I think
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there's a lot of comments there because
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I think it's a key differentiator and
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it's a-you know anytime someone becomes
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trendy and you get a lot of success
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working on it it's bound to pick up
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steam and become more popular okay
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Trevor had a specific question about
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external rotation during transition and
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basically he's having trouble figuring
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out how to get down to the golf ball
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with external rotation so this one will
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be a little bit more demo based and a
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little bit more specific than just why
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your instructors talking about external
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rotation so external rotation is more of
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this rotation of the trail arm away from
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the target or away from the body like so
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and what can happen is when a lot of
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golfers demonstrated they'll try to
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really keep hero angle this up just a
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little bit so they will try to keep this
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elbow pretty high so it ends up looking
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like this now you can see that my right
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forearm in this position is pointing
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well up about above the golf ball so the
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key is how do I get this external
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rotation and get the club or get that
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forearm
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pointing more down at the golf ball
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because that forearm is going to have to
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point down to the golf ball in order for
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me to control the point and get the club
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down to the golf ball so if I get this
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external rotation and it's high I have
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two options I can either bend more from
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my hips but eventually that just becomes
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a very unethical
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if I bend too much from the hips it's
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it's likely I'm not gonna be able to
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rotate or use as much vertical force I'm
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not gonna be able to really use my pivot
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as well so then it becomes how do I
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externally rotate and get that form to
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point down so allowing that right arm to
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straighten just a little bit while still
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keeping that external rotation position
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because yes this is external rotation
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this is also external rotation so from
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the face on view that is external
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rotation but so is that and training it
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to be a little bit more of the movement
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where it's external rotation but more in
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line with the shoulder can help you get
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the Shaolin movement but also control
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low points so I see I tend to see that
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as a key difference here alright so I
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know that see a few questions coming in
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so I'll I'll take a quick break from the
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pre-scheduled ones and I'll jump in it
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looks like Dennis had a question about
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strategies to get the sternum facing
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down ahead of the ball by impact
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tendency is to be late in rotation ok so
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what he's talking about is getting the
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sternum so I'll use this as my reference
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but basically getting the sternum to be
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pointing out ahead of the golf ball at
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impact in order to do that the arms have
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to be more behind my body when I'm
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making contact and my arms have to kind
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of delay their timing in order to allow
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my body to get open if my arms started
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getting involved too soon and they are
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working more across my body like so and
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getting out in front of my sternum I'm
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never going to get it open
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so the normal progression would be all
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right how can I hit some golf balls
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making sure that my chest is open or my
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sternum is pointing where I want it to
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be so first thing I always do is I would
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use something like the merry-go-round
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and I would preset a good impact
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position and then I would do some little
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release drills or nine to threes from
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there if the second I started moving the
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club video showed or I could see on a
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mirror that I wasn't getting open then I
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would backtrack it even further and I
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would do something like the push ball
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drill just to get used to the body being
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open when there's arms extend so I would
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work on the position then I would get
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the movement then I would get contact
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with the ball with the movement
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and then I would throttle back into more
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like a 3/4 swing or maybe even full
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swings trying to duplicate that same
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position but you've got to work through
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a logical progression especially if you
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keep you know banging your head up
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against the wall basically if you're
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making the same mistake you've got to
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really either slow it down or shorten it
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in order to give your brain more time in
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space in order to coordinate that
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movement so I would do merry-go-round
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drill I would do push ball drill I would
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do impact fix I would do follow-through
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drills everything getting used to the
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body being open and the arm is more
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behind and if you start to find that
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when you do that you either top the ball
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hit the ball fin I have trouble with low
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point control of trouble with face
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control that will point you down what's
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the most logical next steps okay Justin
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was asking what are the keys to having
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the low point target side of the ball
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without swinging too much outside in so
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the keys to that basically what he's
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asking is if I actually don't have a
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golf ball and confident that there's not
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one here in this Airbnb so well we'll
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take the mouse and we'll say that here's
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the golf ball
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what he's saying is basically if I'm
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swinging through the ball golf ball how
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do I get the low point out in front of
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the golf ball like so without swinging
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too much outside in because when I swing
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outside in that does tend to get the low
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point more forward but it gives me a
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very challenging path to work with right
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it gives me more of a glancing blow so
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in order to get the low point forward I
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need to have my arms extend more out at
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the target so the two main factors for
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what control low point are where is your
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chest turning or your sternum pointing
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and the straightness of
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your arms specifically that trail arm
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since the hand is the right hand is for
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this down on the grip so if the right
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hand is trying to get into a wrist
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position like that and a straight arm
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your bottom this wing is always going to
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be further back if your chesco is more
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standing up and you're pointing more at
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the golf ball instead of down in front
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of it you will always struggle with the
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bottom swing being behind the golf ball
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so in order to get the bottom of swing
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out ahead of the golf ball but not come
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from the inside or sorry not come from
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the outside come more from the inside I
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have to have earlier face closing so I
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have to have the motorcycle movement
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which there are a couple questions on
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and we'll get to next I have to have
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more of the hands more in front of the
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chest in order to get that arm extension
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out there and my body has to be slightly
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closer to the ground and more rotated
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and side bent if you get that pattern
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that typically creates the situation
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where you'll get shaft lean and you'll
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get the low point out in front of the
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golf ball without swinging too much
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outside in I had to pick just one of
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those to work on it would be more of the
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face rotation component because if you
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the more you shallow things and the more
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you delay the closing of the clubface or
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the more you delay the arms those both
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delay the closing of the clubface so you
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have to close it a little bit earlier or
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differently in order to account for that
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okay we'll jump back to Tim Ford who
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asked about the motorcycle it's one of
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the one of the terms that we use to look
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at the shaft rotation so basically
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looking at if you have a club face like
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this twisting around its axis and it's
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typically done by the left wrist and his
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question was how much when what do you
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do if you're having too much how does it
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relate to shaft lean and how does it
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relate to side Bend and he asked what
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are the best drills to to try to
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encourage it so bunch of office
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jumping into the motorcycle and I think
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si saw a couple other questions related
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to motorcycle so we'll jump into that
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too okay first one timing of it the the
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important thing is that it happens by
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impact the the most common the two most
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common timings are either to do that
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motorcycle to end the top of the
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backswing or do the motorcycle to start
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the downswing but there are a few guys
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like say a Phil Mickelson or Charles
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Howell the third or John Senden or Rory
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Sabbatini who have more of a arm pole
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cast pattern who will actually do the
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motorcycle between chef's parallel and
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impact so it'll be very much a late
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twisting of the club I don't see that
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one very much with amateurs sorry um I
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think we're back hopefully we didn't
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lose too much I don't see that pattern
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very much with amateurs I tend to see
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that more with elite level players they
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kind of find a way to square it very
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much late and still keep speed the
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problem is with a lot of amateurs if you
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do that really late they don't feel like
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it's very powerful so the timing is
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typically either at the top of the swing
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or during transition not everyone is so
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seats the top of the swing when it's
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actually happening so during the
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backswing is an okay time if you have a
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hard time coordinating it more in
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transition and if it's if you're doing
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it more in transition I think there's a
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speed advantage to doing it that way but
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ultimately it just has to be done before
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you get to impact so anytime between
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takeaway and impact top of the swing in
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transition are the two most common
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how much the average is about 25 degrees
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of rotation at impact and they'll lose a
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little bit coming into impact so I'm
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gonna say average is probably 30 to 40
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degrees during the golf swing so if you
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started with about 25 degrees of
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extension of your wrist that means that
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impact you might have 10 degrees of flex
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or 5 degrees of flex or be pretty close
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to neutral if you tend to grip it more
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weak so if you're gripping it where the
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wrist is pretty much straight up and
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down like this then the guys who do that
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on tour would be more like that and
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impact or if you grip it really strong
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with a lot of extension then you can
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still have a little bit of extension in
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your wrist when you get to impact and
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you still did the motorcycle movement so
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it's a relative change compared to where
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it was at setup what happens if you have
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too much specifically you've talked
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about at the top of the swing well the
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more motorcycle you do the more it
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allows you to delay the arms and get
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your body open when it becomes too much
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in my experience it's almost always too
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much because the body didn't keep
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rotating and the arms extended and if
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you're going to have more of an arm
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extension pattern you may play better
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from a little bit weaker grip and you
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may play better from a little bit less
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so more on the 20 degrees of motor cycle
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rather than the max and the one of the
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other important things is if I jump back
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to that timing is most of the body
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driven swings will tend to have a
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motorcycle graph that looks pretty
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gradual so basically from the top of the
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swing down aim
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it will happen kind of smoothly and it
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will cover the whole range of motion
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what I tend to see cause some problems
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is especially if you're more of like a
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really aggressive arm puller you'll try
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to close it but you'll do it very
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quickly so you'll close it like this
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instead of closing it over the whole
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downswing so you close it really rapidly
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in transition and then you've got
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nowhere left to go and if you don't kind
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of hold it off on the way through you
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may hit more pulls or you could have
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leading-edge contact you could get a
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little bit steep so we want it to happen
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at the top of the swing we want it to
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happen gradually we want somewhere
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around 30 degrees of motorcycle
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somewhere in that somewhere in that
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general zone how does it relate to shaft
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lean the more shaft lean you have the
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more shaft the clubface will point to
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the right so you need that motorcycle
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movement to square the face and how does
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it relate to side Bend well typically
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the more side Bend you have the more you
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will pull and create shaft lean and
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otherwise you'd hit it fat and so the
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more side Bend you have typically the
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more motorcycle you need the a good
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example is a chip shot where you're not
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really going to have a whole lot of side
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Bend and because you're not gonna have a
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whole lot of side Bend you're not gonna
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have a lot of motorcycle movement you're
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tending to square the face even with
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that wrist having some extension not
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really coming in with the wrist bowed
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all right let me jump back in to the
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live questions which is perfect timing
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because Bruce PS is the motorcycle move
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something that is consciously done or is
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it the result of something else the I'm
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gonna say both there are I've worked
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with some great players who actively
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think about doing it I think that if you
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do it enough like let's say you really
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worked on this for two years you
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probably don't have to think about it
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too much and you'd be able to focus
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mostly on just kind of having almost
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like it
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hands feel and more of a body feel but
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if you're used to coming down more with
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an extended wrist than having a big
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scoop I think at least for a while
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you're going to have to feel like you're
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you know doing that motorcycle movement
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now the trick is to get know when you
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start trying to go from practicing to
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playing you want to shift your focus
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more from internal thoughts like I'm
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going to flex my wrist to an external
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flop thought of more I'm going to lower
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my initial flight and I'm gonna get the
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clubface more closed so thinking about
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the club as opposed to my hands we're in
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transition it may be great to think
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about the hands that can be one useful
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way to make it feel more unconscious but
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so I think that many golfers benefit
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from doing it consciously and you do it
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consciously enough until you don't have
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to think about it
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the danger with thinking about it too
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consciously is sometimes if you're
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overly focused on one area it creates
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almost a tension in the rest of the body
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so it might actually stall your pivot if
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you're trying to do like if you have too
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much of the attention on the wrist and
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that's where practice comes in where
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you're able to blend a feel of doing the
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movement but still being able to swing
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through the ball use your legs use your
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body all that stuff all right let me
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jump back to a couple of the pre
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questions so mark he was asking how do
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you how do you train rotation on the
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downswing in order to get rid of the
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slide so the slide and the scoop
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typically go hand in hand what'll happen
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is I've never seen a golfer who gets a
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lot of chef twists and white movement
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like this and also slides because if you
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did you would tend to have a really
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steep angle of attack and the low point
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way forward so everybody here all
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see that my last demo was off-screen
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most of the golfers who I see who
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struggle with more of a slide they have
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more of a trail arm disconnected
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internal rotation more of a scoop style
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release kind of like this and then they
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slide in order to get that low point
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more forward so my best bet is if you're
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trying to get more rotation you have to
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set up the arm movements in the club
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face position that will make it easier
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to have those arm movement or to have
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that that rotation component the slide
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complements the flip the motorcycle
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movement complements body rotation so if
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you have a slide and you have the
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motorcycle movement then it becomes a
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little bit trickier it's usually looking
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at muscle imbalances and trying to get
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more of the engine so I probably do some
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oblique testing probably do some glute
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testing just to see how your rotators
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are working but I'd say nine times out
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of ten the slide is more of a
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compensation for a release pattern than
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an actual situation itself ok had a
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question from Jason he was asking also
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about the motor cycle so like I said
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this one had a pretty heavy motorcycle
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theme
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he asked about Palmer flexing or just
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flexing your wrist as most people call
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it in the backswing how does this relate
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to the high draw and what's like
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especially if the club is facing really
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closed or skyward at the top well in
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order to hit a high draw you have to
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have the face close to the path and you
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need to have the path right of the
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target in order to get the high
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component you need to have either kind
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of Club that speed in order to get high
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enough spin or you need to have a high
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enough launch but in order to get it to
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draw you need to have the path more out
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to the right for a right-handed golfer
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and the clubface closed so having the
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clubface closed during the backswing
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you know kind of rolling those hands
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under can basically guarantee that
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you're going to
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ball that curves more to the left or
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draws so I always say if you're trying
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to make it draw then working on the face
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the path relationship is a really strong
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component to start with as far as it
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getting too close at the top I talked
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about that earlier
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that's only a problem if you also if
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your arm extension timing if you're
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swinging more at the golf ball instead
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of through the golf ball that can be a
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problem but if you're trying to draw the
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ball I would rather err on having the
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clubface too closed rather than to open
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and the those key movements being the
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shaft rotation and the path out to the
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right or the two key movements you got
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to work on okay one last question here
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and then we'll jump back into some of
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the live questions and this is was a
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good one Chris was asking about some of
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these matching pieces so you've got
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Dustin Johnson who appears to have more
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of a you know non-stop rotation through
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the through impact and then you've got
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Phil Mickelson who's got more of a stall
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flip pattern and then he actually used
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Rory
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so today's winner who gets really open
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but still also stalls and then he asked
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all right you've got golfers who are of
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the pelvis more open the pelvis more
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square the torso more open torso most
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more square you know what do you do so
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here's the here's my overall hierarchy
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you want to look at the skills you're
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trying to train and then you add the
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movements to improve the skills so the
00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:29.960
main skills are controlling the flight
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of the face to path relationship which
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will help control whether go straight or
00:27:33.830 --> 00:27:36.830
curves right or curves left controlling
00:27:36.830 --> 00:27:38.929
the path which improve which includes
00:27:38.929 --> 00:27:41.929
mostly low point and swing directions so
00:27:41.929 --> 00:27:44.659
basically hitting it solidly and then
00:27:44.659 --> 00:27:48.230
creating speed so if you're like for
00:27:48.230 --> 00:27:53.450
example a golfer like Phil Mickelson in
00:27:53.450 --> 00:27:56.659
order for his pattern what I've what
00:27:56.659 --> 00:27:58.100
I've seen with golfers who tend to be
00:27:58.100 --> 00:28:02.809
more of that arm pole club steepening
00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:06.320
then kind of flip stall on the way
00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:09.200
through here's what the main problem
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.499
with that pattern is is if they swing
00:28:12.499 --> 00:28:15.320
hard they tend to lose clubface control
00:28:15.320 --> 00:28:18.350
so they tend to lose start line and they
00:28:18.350 --> 00:28:22.190
tend to have wild misses so if you're if
00:28:22.190 --> 00:28:23.960
that's your pattern and let's say you
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:25.999
had to play tomorrow you're not gonna
00:28:25.999 --> 00:28:27.350
have time to change that pattern I
00:28:27.350 --> 00:28:30.080
highly recommend working on tempo the
00:28:30.080 --> 00:28:33.080
guys who've had that pattern and who've
00:28:33.080 --> 00:28:35.840
been very accurate tend to really
00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:38.749
throttle back so they tend to be
00:28:38.749 --> 00:28:41.690
swinging more around like you know 70 75
00:28:41.690 --> 00:28:45.019
percent not 90 percent if you have a
00:28:45.019 --> 00:28:46.970
mental Constitution where you want to
00:28:46.970 --> 00:28:48.830
swing hard and you really want to like
00:28:48.830 --> 00:28:52.419
hit the ball as hard as you can then you
00:28:52.419 --> 00:28:55.100
would probably be more accurate with a
00:28:55.100 --> 00:28:56.869
little bit more shallow shaft earlier
00:28:56.869 --> 00:29:00.980
face body rotation so again it's all
00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:03.679
about matching those pieces so Rory has
00:29:03.679 --> 00:29:06.409
a you know an unbelievable pattern
00:29:06.409 --> 00:29:09.769
especially for a driver but he can
00:29:09.769 --> 00:29:11.600
struggle with more of his wedge
00:29:11.600 --> 00:29:13.869
proximity and you can start with putting
00:29:13.869 --> 00:29:17.749
those might be related to why he's such
00:29:17.749 --> 00:29:21.590
a good driver there golf ball so when
00:29:21.590 --> 00:29:23.480
you're looking at how open the body is
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.139
how open the chest or the hips are you
00:29:27.139 --> 00:29:29.149
want to factor in what you're physically
00:29:29.149 --> 00:29:31.639
capable of what your capabilities are
00:29:31.639 --> 00:29:35.029
what skills you're trying to improve and
00:29:35.029 --> 00:29:36.769
then go from there
00:29:36.769 --> 00:29:38.240
if you're trying to work on low point
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.480
control and you've got a major stall and
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.789
your body is close to the target well
00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:45.200
then you'll probably do better getting
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.679
more open so just thinking through the
00:29:48.679 --> 00:29:50.749
pattern as far as what you want to work
00:29:50.749 --> 00:29:52.940
on and then jumping back to it or
00:29:52.940 --> 00:29:55.210
working on the complementary pieces
00:29:55.210 --> 00:29:57.999
that's the the pattern I like to use
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okay it looks like Kevin he's asked when
00:30:04.159 --> 00:30:05.990
I try to flatten the shaft in transition
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and then look at the video on down the
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line
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I never get into my typical top of
00:30:10.950 --> 00:30:13.759
backswing spot I get low in flat
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anticipating the flattening move too
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early so what that I can either be good
00:30:21.899 --> 00:30:24.989
or that can be bad so like you know a
00:30:24.989 --> 00:30:26.999
golfer like more of a Jason Dufner has
00:30:26.999 --> 00:30:29.850
ten tends to have more of a flattening
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movement during the backswing so then
00:30:31.859 --> 00:30:33.359
you can be a little more aggressive
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.809
during transition and not get too steep
00:30:35.809 --> 00:30:39.600
but if you are working on shallowing
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then if you're too flat too early then
00:30:41.879 --> 00:30:43.919
it's gonna be hard to shallow from that
00:30:43.919 --> 00:30:47.700
position so one drill that could
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possibly help is doing drills where you
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hit from the top so you go up to the top
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.169
and stall it will take away some of your
00:30:55.169 --> 00:30:57.889
upper body power source typically and
00:30:57.889 --> 00:31:00.690
allow you the time and space to work on
00:31:00.690 --> 00:31:03.139
either shallowing motorcycle movement or
00:31:03.139 --> 00:31:05.249
sequencing and using the lower body
00:31:05.249 --> 00:31:07.460
which we'll get into in a little bit
00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:09.239
okay
00:31:09.239 --> 00:31:15.690
another live question Jason Jason asked
00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:18.960
is the motorcycle and ulnar deviation
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.869
done at the same time do you need the
00:31:21.869 --> 00:31:23.970
hips open impact to have forward shaft
00:31:23.970 --> 00:31:27.629
lean on a full swing I'm gonna say let
00:31:27.629 --> 00:31:29.340
me answer the second one first I'm gonna
00:31:29.340 --> 00:31:32.309
say yes the the lowest I've ever seen on
00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:35.070
a Tour pro is about 20 degrees open with
00:31:35.070 --> 00:31:37.739
their lower body with amateurs I've seen
00:31:37.739 --> 00:31:40.139
actually closed at impact so it's
00:31:40.139 --> 00:31:44.220
possible to do I can't imagine that you
00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:46.320
would have your pelvis closed and still
00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:49.169
get the hands ahead and not have a
00:31:49.169 --> 00:31:50.999
really steep angle attack that that
00:31:50.999 --> 00:31:53.580
becomes the problem is um you have to
00:31:53.580 --> 00:31:56.059
understand that the angle of attack and
00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:58.710
the amount of shaft lean are independent
00:31:58.710 --> 00:32:01.080
variables and if you start if you don't
00:32:01.080 --> 00:32:02.940
get your body open enough it's hard to
00:32:02.940 --> 00:32:07.200
have shaft lean and not have a steep
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.599
angle of attack okay now the second one
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.820
is the motorcycle and you owner
00:32:11.820 --> 00:32:13.950
deviation done at the same time pretty
00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:17.940
much now here's one of the tricks or the
00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:20.909
caveat to that the right hand and the
00:32:20.909 --> 00:32:21.840
left hand are typically
00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:23.400
doing slightly different things in the
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.970
golf swing so especially during the
00:32:26.970 --> 00:32:29.640
early part of the downswing because of
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.830
how the right hand is on the club the
00:32:33.830 --> 00:32:36.960
increased lag typically happens more
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.470
from the trail wrist in order to get the
00:32:40.470 --> 00:32:43.679
good pressure point and in in order to
00:32:43.679 --> 00:32:45.990
go into external rotation in order to
00:32:45.990 --> 00:32:48.440
load the wrist all that happens in that
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.330
trailer wrist in order to start squaring
00:32:51.330 --> 00:32:54.419
the face that lead wrist is gonna tend
00:32:54.419 --> 00:32:56.490
to go into more that motorcycle movement
00:32:56.490 --> 00:32:58.710
and because of some of those couple
00:32:58.710 --> 00:33:00.020
motions
00:33:00.020 --> 00:33:02.809
you'll tend to go into a little bit more
00:33:02.809 --> 00:33:05.640
older deviation than at the same time so
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.250
that's why you'll frequently see golfers
00:33:08.250 --> 00:33:12.330
grips change a little bit on the club by
00:33:12.330 --> 00:33:13.649
the time they get to impact I believe
00:33:13.649 --> 00:33:15.570
Phil chin said it was about 20 degrees
00:33:15.570 --> 00:33:18.720
in his most recent research but the
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.440
hands definitely change on the grip so
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.110
yes to your question motorcycling ud are
00:33:25.110 --> 00:33:27.570
typically done at about the same time if
00:33:27.570 --> 00:33:30.029
you had to break it down to kind of the
00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:32.880
Nano movements motorcycle what happens
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.059
slightly before the whole nerd deviation
00:33:35.059 --> 00:33:39.870
okay big will asked what type of swing
00:33:39.870 --> 00:33:41.549
movements or characteristics are the
00:33:41.549 --> 00:33:44.970
easiest on the lower back and is a lower
00:33:44.970 --> 00:33:48.270
back friendly swing incompatible with
00:33:48.270 --> 00:33:52.140
high club hezbi the simple answer is yes
00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:56.669
the higher you higher velocity the more
00:33:56.669 --> 00:33:58.260
stress that's going to come back through
00:33:58.260 --> 00:34:01.140
your body now if you can distribute that
00:34:01.140 --> 00:34:04.820
through your whole body then you can
00:34:04.820 --> 00:34:07.289
handle it repetition you know you can
00:34:07.289 --> 00:34:08.089
handle it
00:34:08.089 --> 00:34:11.429
500 reps a day or over the course of a
00:34:11.429 --> 00:34:13.520
decade like you can put in a lot of reps
00:34:13.520 --> 00:34:15.720
but if you already have an area that's
00:34:15.720 --> 00:34:17.040
kind of a weak point like your lower
00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:20.250
back then the faster that you swing
00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:22.710
potentially the more stress you're going
00:34:22.710 --> 00:34:25.080
to put into that area especially if
00:34:25.080 --> 00:34:27.240
using the lower back is one of the major
00:34:27.240 --> 00:34:30.899
ways you create speed or you're bracing
00:34:30.899 --> 00:34:33.629
strategy puts extra stress in the
00:34:33.629 --> 00:34:38.750
we're back so if I had to design a
00:34:38.750 --> 00:34:42.480
lower-back friendly swing one of the
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.000
most important things that I would try
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.629
to include would be more of a gradual
00:34:48.629 --> 00:34:51.269
tempo through impact so that there was
00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:54.659
no real jarring movement you could
00:34:54.659 --> 00:34:56.250
potentially get more speed from your
00:34:56.250 --> 00:34:58.140
arms but one of the big keys would be
00:34:58.140 --> 00:35:00.900
trying to have really soft arms soft
00:35:00.900 --> 00:35:04.519
shoulders soft jaw to create less of a
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:08.400
an impulse at impact and more of kind of
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.930
a gradual absorption of that speed now
00:35:12.930 --> 00:35:15.420
the hard thing is that might not be how
00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:18.839
you feel powerful but it wouldn't really
00:35:18.839 --> 00:35:21.029
cost you too much in terms of club head
00:35:21.029 --> 00:35:24.599
speed alright let me get back to a few
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.990
of these good email questions that I got
00:35:27.990 --> 00:35:31.589
and hopefully will will tie things up
00:35:31.589 --> 00:35:34.170
with a few more of the live questions so
00:35:34.170 --> 00:35:38.640
Robbie Robbie asked about footwork its
00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:40.589
footwork his question was basically
00:35:40.589 --> 00:35:43.619
footwork is often talked about like hey
00:35:43.619 --> 00:35:44.940
footwork is really important but it's
00:35:44.940 --> 00:35:47.420
not really discussed in too much detail
00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:49.769
what do I like to see in the full swing
00:35:49.769 --> 00:35:52.019
so I'll give kind of just a real quick
00:35:52.019 --> 00:35:55.619
overview of footwork because you can get
00:35:55.619 --> 00:35:59.940
into specific details and should the
00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:02.339
footwork of someone who has more of a
00:36:02.339 --> 00:36:05.220
pronated foot or a neutral foot or even
00:36:05.220 --> 00:36:12.660
a a varus foot would their footwork be
00:36:12.660 --> 00:36:16.980
exactly the same it's hard to say okay
00:36:16.980 --> 00:36:19.470
the basic pattern that I like to see is
00:36:19.470 --> 00:36:21.690
let's let's talk about three main
00:36:21.690 --> 00:36:24.390
movements the foot we'll talk about kind
00:36:24.390 --> 00:36:26.279
of rolling or pronation supination on
00:36:26.279 --> 00:36:29.299
the foot we'll talk about flexing or
00:36:29.299 --> 00:36:32.160
kind of you know pushing through the
00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:34.019
ground and then we'll cop talk about
00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:36.660
like rotating the ankle or pivoting the
00:36:36.660 --> 00:36:40.289
foot this way in general the pattern
00:36:40.289 --> 00:36:42.509
that you're going to see with good ball
00:36:42.509 --> 00:36:44.910
strikers is they're going to pronate the
00:36:44.910 --> 00:36:46.530
foot first then the
00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:48.560
gonna push through the ground and then a
00:36:48.560 --> 00:36:51.600
round impact or usually after impact
00:36:51.600 --> 00:36:53.600
they'll start to go into rotation
00:36:53.600 --> 00:36:55.890
typically what happens with amateurs is
00:36:55.890 --> 00:36:57.780
they don't roll the foot they'll push
00:36:57.780 --> 00:37:00.480
and then they'll go into rotation so one
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.250
he asked uh you know what's something
00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:04.770
you can look for on video one easy way
00:37:04.770 --> 00:37:06.960
is if we're looking at the foot and you
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.390
kind of had a line on the outside of the
00:37:09.390 --> 00:37:12.030
foot what you'll tend to see is during
00:37:12.030 --> 00:37:13.620
the downswing it would the foot would
00:37:13.620 --> 00:37:15.480
never like the heel would never cross
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.280
through that line typically if they're
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.230
not rolling or extending if they're
00:37:19.230 --> 00:37:20.970
getting into that rotation first they'll
00:37:20.970 --> 00:37:22.650
pivot more around the toe of the trail
00:37:22.650 --> 00:37:25.320
foot and you'll see that he'll go away
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.840
from the target first um so that should
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.270
help give you kind of an overview at
00:37:30.270 --> 00:37:31.680
least of what's going on with the trail
00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:34.980
foot the lead foot is a little bit
00:37:34.980 --> 00:37:37.170
simpler it's just the weight gets into
00:37:37.170 --> 00:37:39.780
the toe and then it translates into the
00:37:39.780 --> 00:37:43.200
heel how it translates into the heel and
00:37:43.200 --> 00:37:46.260
what the the hip and the shoulders are
00:37:46.260 --> 00:37:48.030
doing it's probably a little bit more
00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:51.360
detail but the the trail foot itself is
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.120
a little bit more complicated it's just
00:37:54.120 --> 00:37:55.980
got this banking movement which happens
00:37:55.980 --> 00:37:57.540
more from the mid foot and then the push
00:37:57.540 --> 00:37:59.400
movement which happens more from the hip
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.430
and then the rotation which happens more
00:38:02.430 --> 00:38:04.200
as a result of what the arms are doing
00:38:04.200 --> 00:38:08.940
on the way through okay Patrick asked a
00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:11.850
question about Davis love describing a
00:38:11.850 --> 00:38:14.670
pull the quiver this way and asking how
00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:17.160
does that actually create power so he
00:38:17.160 --> 00:38:19.470
sent a video of basically Davis love
00:38:19.470 --> 00:38:21.030
talking about how at the top of the
00:38:21.030 --> 00:38:23.370
swing he tries to pull that way as
00:38:23.370 --> 00:38:25.320
opposed to pulling down and what happens
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.160
is in the transition if I'm actually
00:38:29.160 --> 00:38:33.210
pushing this way with that left hand
00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:35.700
that will tend to cause a little bit
00:38:35.700 --> 00:38:38.910
more trail wrist extension and really
00:38:38.910 --> 00:38:42.030
good loading of those arms that tends to
00:38:42.030 --> 00:38:44.490
allow me to work more rotationally tend
00:38:44.490 --> 00:38:46.020
to allow me to work more with my whole
00:38:46.020 --> 00:38:48.600
body if I tend to get pulling more down
00:38:48.600 --> 00:38:51.480
vertically with the arms that will tend
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.320
to kick the club out which would feel
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.490
like the wrists are going more that way
00:38:57.490 --> 00:39:00.040
pushing out almost encourages that
00:39:00.040 --> 00:39:02.110
downswing lag which contributes to
00:39:02.110 --> 00:39:04.240
better sequencing and total body
00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:06.490
contribution and that sequencing and
00:39:06.490 --> 00:39:08.650
total body contribution can relate to
00:39:08.650 --> 00:39:13.110
speed generation let's see
00:39:13.110 --> 00:39:16.900
Fred asked a couple questions I'll take
00:39:16.900 --> 00:39:22.600
on his first two so he asked the lower
00:39:22.600 --> 00:39:25.240
body in the backswing is it detrimental
00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:27.640
to have the lower body drop down in the
00:39:27.640 --> 00:39:31.119
backswing my or he specifically talked
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.340
about the head the hard thing is the
00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:35.530
head is not one of the more accurate
00:39:35.530 --> 00:39:38.080
things to measure three duis because at
00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:40.810
least on a mmm they use the sensor to
00:39:40.810 --> 00:39:44.290
digitize the rest of the body some of
00:39:44.290 --> 00:39:45.730
the other systems are a little bit
00:39:45.730 --> 00:39:47.470
better with the head but most of the 3d
00:39:47.470 --> 00:39:51.970
data I've seen is a mmm and the other
00:39:51.970 --> 00:39:54.880
thing is you could have you could have
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.710
your head lower in a variety different
00:39:56.710 --> 00:39:58.360
ways you could have your have your head
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.040
lower from side Bend you could have your
00:40:00.040 --> 00:40:02.380
head lower from tucking your chin you
00:40:02.380 --> 00:40:03.910
could have your head lower from what
00:40:03.910 --> 00:40:06.070
your hips are doing there's a lot of
00:40:06.070 --> 00:40:09.940
different ways to lower the head so what
00:40:09.940 --> 00:40:11.710
I've seen is that the thorax typically
00:40:11.710 --> 00:40:13.390
on average will drop about one to two
00:40:13.390 --> 00:40:15.550
inches if you assume that the neck stays
00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:19.030
pretty much neutral or even shortens
00:40:19.030 --> 00:40:20.380
from getting into a little bit of left
00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:23.080
hill then you would expect that most
00:40:23.080 --> 00:40:25.359
people's heads would drop a little bit
00:40:25.359 --> 00:40:27.100
in the backswing so I would say that
00:40:27.100 --> 00:40:28.660
that's not going to be detrimental as
00:40:28.660 --> 00:40:32.170
far as creating speed his sexy is a
00:40:32.170 --> 00:40:36.280
second question was from the face on how
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:40.090
do you get fully rotated at pH so I was
00:40:40.090 --> 00:40:42.460
not familiar with the P system let's say
00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:45.310
impact is P seven they kind of go
00:40:45.310 --> 00:40:47.380
through so P eight is about when the
00:40:47.380 --> 00:40:49.980
shaft is parallel to the ground and
00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:52.210
basically asking how do I get my body
00:40:52.210 --> 00:40:55.390
facing the target now the most the
00:40:55.390 --> 00:40:57.460
biggest barrier to getting your body
00:40:57.460 --> 00:40:59.800
open at P eight is the amount of
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.500
rotation in that lead hip so making sure
00:41:02.500 --> 00:41:04.960
that you have enough left foot turn out
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.270
or left foot flare so that your body can
00:41:07.270 --> 00:41:09.340
face the target is one of the biggest
00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:10.060
barriers
00:41:10.060 --> 00:41:13.330
if that's not the case if you can get
00:41:13.330 --> 00:41:15.490
there without a golf club if you can
00:41:15.490 --> 00:41:18.250
just pose it then it usually comes down
00:41:18.250 --> 00:41:20.860
to clubface or low point control and
00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:23.380
basically you're using earlier arm
00:41:23.380 --> 00:41:25.540
action in order to square the face or
00:41:25.540 --> 00:41:27.430
control the point and so you got to do a
00:41:27.430 --> 00:41:29.380
little investigating and figure out
00:41:29.380 --> 00:41:30.880
which of those two it is because they
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.510
have slightly different solutions all
00:41:34.510 --> 00:41:38.040
right back to the live questions Ryan
00:41:38.040 --> 00:41:42.400
it's asking I fight a steep hook pattern
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.080
with early extension working on the
00:41:44.080 --> 00:41:46.120
motorcycle to shallow but struggle to
00:41:46.120 --> 00:41:47.950
delay the arms long enough to avoid
00:41:47.950 --> 00:41:50.470
closed face trying to get the body open
00:41:50.470 --> 00:41:53.560
impact steepens the path and feats my
00:41:53.560 --> 00:41:56.530
shallowing progress any suggestions you
00:41:56.530 --> 00:41:59.800
know it is a it is one of the more
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.510
frustrating patterns when you're steep
00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:04.780
and from the inside which can cause
00:42:04.780 --> 00:42:08.170
steep miss patterns as well as hook or
00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:12.130
overlay into out patterns okay
00:42:12.130 --> 00:42:16.780
so how do you I would say that I'm just
00:42:16.780 --> 00:42:18.010
going off a hunch based on your
00:42:18.010 --> 00:42:20.890
description but the ulnar deviation is
00:42:20.890 --> 00:42:22.990
probably the bigger key shallowing
00:42:22.990 --> 00:42:26.640
movement then getting the arm extension
00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:31.150
those are the arm rotation so working on
00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:35.050
getting the club to be more down back
00:42:35.050 --> 00:42:40.020
there will allow your body to rotate
00:42:40.020 --> 00:42:43.020
without getting too steep the problem is
00:42:43.020 --> 00:42:45.970
that body rotation if you have the shaft
00:42:45.970 --> 00:42:49.090
in a neutral position will tend to cause
00:42:49.090 --> 00:42:52.140
the club to swing on more of a lower
00:42:52.140 --> 00:42:54.280
vertical swing plane and tend to get
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.700
really steep so working on shallowing
00:42:57.700 --> 00:43:00.010
and almost pointing back about 45
00:43:00.010 --> 00:43:02.950
degrees and then allowing that body
00:43:02.950 --> 00:43:05.200
rotation to take the arms a little bit
00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:07.750
more around to the left I got a number
00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:09.610
of sites on the or drills on the site
00:43:09.610 --> 00:43:12.280
the hit my arm is drill the drill with
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.860
the foam rollers hands in Club out
00:43:14.860 --> 00:43:16.240
there's a bunch of different ways to
00:43:16.240 --> 00:43:18.850
work on that follow-through side and
00:43:18.850 --> 00:43:21.680
then the isolated on
00:43:21.680 --> 00:43:23.990
and impact of face rotation when the
00:43:23.990 --> 00:43:26.450
impact bag or whole different ways there
00:43:26.450 --> 00:43:28.970
but there's a variety for working on
00:43:28.970 --> 00:43:31.520
ulnar deviation or unhinge if you search
00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:32.930
those topics on the site they will
00:43:32.930 --> 00:43:34.339
probably point you in the right
00:43:34.339 --> 00:43:38.930
direction of how to shallow and how that
00:43:38.930 --> 00:43:43.069
works with body rotation all right
00:43:43.069 --> 00:43:46.099
we're gonna do just a couple more I
00:43:46.099 --> 00:43:47.750
don't think we'll be able to get to
00:43:47.750 --> 00:43:50.809
everybody's questions today because I've
00:43:50.809 --> 00:43:54.319
got a few left on the emails and I can
00:43:54.319 --> 00:43:56.540
see there's half a dozen or so here so
00:43:56.540 --> 00:43:58.220
we'll probably schedule another Q&A in
00:43:58.220 --> 00:44:02.180
the next week or so all right let's see
00:44:02.180 --> 00:44:05.540
nick is asking can you explain how and
00:44:05.540 --> 00:44:09.050
why the CA om moves upward at the change
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of direction how do you get the ulnar
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deviation without early releasing so the
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.700
that kind of relates to the quiver
00:44:19.700 --> 00:44:23.660
question as far as how the co M moves
00:44:23.660 --> 00:44:29.510
upward basically if I let's see the
00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:32.750
easiest way to to phrase this if I was
00:44:32.750 --> 00:44:35.540
to pull down when you're looking at the
00:44:35.540 --> 00:44:37.130
the overall force and you're looking at
00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:39.829
the co M you want to look at okay here's
00:44:39.829 --> 00:44:41.960
my golf club the balance point is right
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:42.650
around here right
00:44:42.650 --> 00:44:46.309
so the one of the classic examples is
00:44:46.309 --> 00:44:48.530
Sergio is someone who probably does not
00:44:48.530 --> 00:44:50.540
have the force going upward in
00:44:50.540 --> 00:44:52.730
transition because his if you look at
00:44:52.730 --> 00:44:54.559
that point during transition it will
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.869
actually come down the hard thing is
00:44:56.869 --> 00:44:59.809
where where most people have it if you
00:44:59.809 --> 00:45:03.470
tried to pull that down either your body
00:45:03.470 --> 00:45:06.230
would get in the way you wouldn't be
00:45:06.230 --> 00:45:08.240
able to really rotate because you'll
00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:10.549
watch if I keep my hands on the club and
00:45:10.549 --> 00:45:14.180
I rotate my body the center here
00:45:14.180 --> 00:45:16.700
actually travels slightly up that way
00:45:16.700 --> 00:45:22.609
and around so it would be really hard to
00:45:22.609 --> 00:45:24.710
get the center of mass to go downward
00:45:24.710 --> 00:45:26.329
first during that early part of
00:45:26.329 --> 00:45:28.640
transition you would have to have you
00:45:28.640 --> 00:45:30.859
know one way would be to kind of delay
00:45:30.859 --> 00:45:33.349
any risk hock and then really kind of
00:45:33.349 --> 00:45:33.770
low
00:45:33.770 --> 00:45:37.220
on the way down but it would also take
00:45:37.220 --> 00:45:39.410
usually staying really close to the
00:45:39.410 --> 00:45:41.660
target more like Sergio if you start
00:45:41.660 --> 00:45:44.210
rotating with your body your hands are
00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:46.790
going to tend to follow the chest
00:45:46.790 --> 00:45:48.500
rotation of the body rotation and that's
00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:50.630
typically going to cause a little bit of
00:45:50.630 --> 00:45:54.460
the comm moving upward how do you get
00:45:54.460 --> 00:45:58.750
only deviation without early releasing
00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:02.930
I've got a couple of videos on casting
00:46:02.930 --> 00:46:06.440
verses or how only or deviation relates
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.470
to lag and basically ulnar deviation
00:46:09.470 --> 00:46:12.380
doesn't necessarily create early
00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:13.490
releasing because there's two different
00:46:13.490 --> 00:46:15.830
ways to look at early releasing one
00:46:15.830 --> 00:46:17.690
would be the vertical height and then
00:46:17.690 --> 00:46:20.180
two would be the rotational movement and
00:46:20.180 --> 00:46:23.210
so I can only deviate and still keep the
00:46:23.210 --> 00:46:26.510
club way behind rotationally so that I
00:46:26.510 --> 00:46:29.690
still have lag coming in to impact the
00:46:29.690 --> 00:46:30.020
alp
00:46:30.020 --> 00:46:31.610
opposite I could get the club in front
00:46:31.610 --> 00:46:33.290
of me and keep the club up really high
00:46:33.290 --> 00:46:38.840
and I'd have to release earlier in order
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:41.480
to shallow it out and get the hands down
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:43.730
or get the club down to impact so
00:46:43.730 --> 00:46:46.190
looking at the club being more behind as
00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:48.590
a source of lag might change your
00:46:48.590 --> 00:46:50.720
definition of early releasing because
00:46:50.720 --> 00:46:54.580
most of the Tour Pros I've seen have
00:46:54.580 --> 00:46:57.440
significantly much earlier only a
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:59.980
deviation than what most people think
00:46:59.980 --> 00:47:05.720
okay let me jump back to a couple the
00:47:05.720 --> 00:47:09.050
last couple questions here and then I'll
00:47:09.050 --> 00:47:12.560
just have to I'll save the questions
00:47:12.560 --> 00:47:14.240
that have been asked and be sure to
00:47:14.240 --> 00:47:16.430
answer those at the beginning next time
00:47:16.430 --> 00:47:24.020
so alright Fred asks about the the stock
00:47:24.020 --> 00:47:25.670
Tour swing and basically what would
00:47:25.670 --> 00:47:28.310
normal pelvis grande bends kinematic
00:47:28.310 --> 00:47:31.220
sequins pelvic angles look like is there
00:47:31.220 --> 00:47:32.690
a difference between the iron and the
00:47:32.690 --> 00:47:35.710
driver okay so from the pelvis Bend
00:47:35.710 --> 00:47:38.750
basically maintaining your core as you
00:47:38.750 --> 00:47:43.420
go into the backswing
00:47:43.420 --> 00:47:45.700
so the the graph would basically look
00:47:45.700 --> 00:47:47.650
like it has more of a flat line instead
00:47:47.650 --> 00:47:51.250
of really dropping down or even going up
00:47:51.250 --> 00:47:53.440
there might be a little bit of extension
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.530
in the transition phase and then
00:47:56.530 --> 00:47:59.080
there'll be a pretty good posterior tilt
00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:03.730
we're using of the ABS during transition
00:48:03.730 --> 00:48:06.150
we're sorry' doing during the release
00:48:06.150 --> 00:48:11.170
the pelvis angle is looking at sidemen
00:48:11.170 --> 00:48:12.640
typically during the side Bend you'll
00:48:12.640 --> 00:48:15.220
have somewhere around 10 degrees of left
00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:16.930
tilt in the backswing and then right
00:48:16.930 --> 00:48:19.930
tilt during the downswing and kinematic
00:48:19.930 --> 00:48:21.250
sequence wise there's lots of
00:48:21.250 --> 00:48:24.250
information about the kinematic sequence
00:48:24.250 --> 00:48:27.700
I don't think I think having a
00:48:27.700 --> 00:48:30.970
transition sequence of lower body arms
00:48:30.970 --> 00:48:33.340
in club somewhere around the same time
00:48:33.340 --> 00:48:36.400
but after lower body and peaking order
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:40.150
all makes sense I don't think that it
00:48:40.150 --> 00:48:43.360
has to be quite as clean as what has
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.360
been touted before I've seen a lot of
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:48.010
really good ball strikers who don't have
00:48:48.010 --> 00:48:49.990
what would be called a perfect kinematic
00:48:49.990 --> 00:48:52.780
sequence for a perfect peaking order but
00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:54.790
transition sequence and the club
00:48:54.790 --> 00:48:56.710
accelerating all the way to impact are
00:48:56.710 --> 00:49:00.780
two patterns that I typically look for
00:49:01.020 --> 00:49:03.190
the difference between the iron and the
00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:06.250
driver kinematic sequence wise when you
00:49:06.250 --> 00:49:08.140
get to short irons they become more of a
00:49:08.140 --> 00:49:10.780
cast pattern less of this really dynamic
00:49:10.780 --> 00:49:14.740
load and they'll tend to be less of
00:49:14.740 --> 00:49:19.660
access to there's an I did a video on or
00:49:19.660 --> 00:49:21.160
a presentation a couple years ago with
00:49:21.160 --> 00:49:22.870
the World Golf fitness summit on the 3d
00:49:22.870 --> 00:49:25.360
differences between the two I'd say that
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.560
would be a good place to start if you're
00:49:26.560 --> 00:49:27.780
looking for the graphs
00:49:27.780 --> 00:49:31.560
okay Brian had a quest question about
00:49:31.560 --> 00:49:34.510
transition power sources yes how was the
00:49:34.510 --> 00:49:36.550
crunch or side Bend a power source he
00:49:36.550 --> 00:49:37.900
kind of understood how the back
00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:40.300
extension could be a power source but he
00:49:40.300 --> 00:49:41.650
was having a hard time with how could a
00:49:41.650 --> 00:49:43.740
crunch or side Bend be the power source
00:49:43.740 --> 00:49:48.190
well basically anything that I can do to
00:49:48.190 --> 00:49:50.350
move this club can be a power source and
00:49:50.350 --> 00:49:53.480
so when I flex my trunk imagine
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.000
like a soccer throw-in that would be
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.359
more of a flex pattern or imagined a you
00:49:59.359 --> 00:50:02.119
know an Axman using or you know
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.270
lumberjack using a hammer or sari using
00:50:05.270 --> 00:50:08.780
an axe or a sledge hammer that forward
00:50:08.780 --> 00:50:11.599
flexion pattern of that crunch can be
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.570
very powerful the side Bend is a little
00:50:14.570 --> 00:50:16.369
trickier to see because it's usually not
00:50:16.369 --> 00:50:19.550
a major power source and a lot of other
00:50:19.550 --> 00:50:22.460
activities but it can be more of an
00:50:22.460 --> 00:50:25.220
oblique type thing and it can really
00:50:25.220 --> 00:50:27.829
help with pulling those arms down that
00:50:27.829 --> 00:50:30.230
can be a big barrier for golfers who
00:50:30.230 --> 00:50:33.170
struggle with wedge play is getting more
00:50:33.170 --> 00:50:35.089
of that vertical drop from side Bend
00:50:35.089 --> 00:50:37.250
power source as opposed to just letting
00:50:37.250 --> 00:50:40.760
the arms fall but anything that moves
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.000
the grip can be a power source and
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.859
because we want to go into more of a
00:50:45.859 --> 00:50:48.589
positive torsion a combination of
00:50:48.589 --> 00:50:50.510
flexing forward and rotating inside
00:50:50.510 --> 00:50:52.670
bending during the early part of the
00:50:52.670 --> 00:50:53.380
downswing
00:50:53.380 --> 00:50:56.960
going into that back extension usually
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:00.020
causes more problems than the speed
00:51:00.020 --> 00:51:02.839
benefits if you're a long-drive guy and
00:51:02.839 --> 00:51:04.460
you're always hitting it off a tee then
00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:07.010
the extension power sore it makes a lot
00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:08.540
of sense but if you have to control a
00:51:08.540 --> 00:51:10.540
low point it becomes a bit of a problem
00:51:10.540 --> 00:51:15.579
okay last question guy asked about
00:51:15.579 --> 00:51:18.950
lordosis in the transition and basically
00:51:18.950 --> 00:51:21.530
you know Kelvin Mia Harris talked about
00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:24.020
hum kind of some of the spinal engine
00:51:24.020 --> 00:51:28.700
stuff and locking the facet joints I'm
00:51:28.700 --> 00:51:31.700
not a hundred percent on I'm not a
00:51:31.700 --> 00:51:33.020
hundred percent convinced that that
00:51:33.020 --> 00:51:34.849
happens in golf in order to lock the
00:51:34.849 --> 00:51:36.589
facet joints you would need to go into
00:51:36.589 --> 00:51:39.829
full range of motion or go near full
00:51:39.829 --> 00:51:42.650
extension so let's say that you've got
00:51:42.650 --> 00:51:44.960
somewhere between 20 and 40 degrees of
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.720
spine extension in the lumbar spine I
00:51:47.720 --> 00:51:50.660
don't see that much extension what I
00:51:50.660 --> 00:51:53.869
typically see on 3d graphs is maybe a
00:51:53.869 --> 00:51:57.859
few degrees up to five degrees of kind
00:51:57.859 --> 00:52:02.810
of going in that anterior tilt that can
00:52:02.810 --> 00:52:05.390
stretch the obliques and preload the ABS
00:52:05.390 --> 00:52:06.080
so that then
00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:08.210
when you rotate them it becomes a power
00:52:08.210 --> 00:52:11.540
source but I don't see it as a spinal
00:52:11.540 --> 00:52:14.780
engine lumbar locking I'd have to see
00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:18.190
some higher numbers in terms of
00:52:18.190 --> 00:52:21.170
extension side Bend for me to buy into
00:52:21.170 --> 00:52:23.990
that pattern so I'm a bigger fan of
00:52:23.990 --> 00:52:27.860
training more of a unified or connected
00:52:27.860 --> 00:52:31.810
core instead of just trying to extend
00:52:31.810 --> 00:52:34.790
the lumbar spine I like to think of the
00:52:34.790 --> 00:52:36.710
whole spine working as a unit starting
00:52:36.710 --> 00:52:39.800
at the sacrum and if you're gonna work
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.020
that way it's tending to go into more of
00:52:42.020 --> 00:52:44.120
a positive torsion not so much the
00:52:44.120 --> 00:52:46.430
extension and you'll just have a little
00:52:46.430 --> 00:52:47.840
bit of maybe a stretch shorten
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.620
beforehand okay so like I said I will
00:52:51.620 --> 00:52:53.690
write down and or I'll copy all the
00:52:53.690 --> 00:52:55.430
questions that I didn't get to this time
00:52:55.430 --> 00:52:58.910
and we'll get another lives Q&A
00:52:58.910 --> 00:53:00.890
scheduled hopefully in the next week or
00:53:00.890 --> 00:53:03.230
so I want to thank everybody for tuning
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00:53:17.870 --> 00:53:20.060
questions and provide hopefully a
00:53:20.060 --> 00:53:23.270
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00:53:23.270 --> 00:53:25.250
looking for more of an A to Z style then
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00:53:31.910 --> 00:53:35.170
it's getting some some good love on WRX
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it kind of highlights the big picture of
00:53:38.690 --> 00:53:40.210
all the pieces out how they fit together
00:53:40.210 --> 00:53:42.470
so if you're struggling if you're kind
00:53:42.470 --> 00:53:43.970
of more of a learner in the game and you
00:53:43.970 --> 00:53:46.160
want to really understand I would highly
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recommend checking that out if you have
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any questions you can shoot me an email
00:53:50.180 --> 00:53:53.890
at support at golf smart Academy comm or
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post them here before I close it and I
00:53:57.110 --> 00:53:59.660
will do my best to get them answered at
00:53:59.660 --> 00:54:03.050
the next Q&A so greetings again from
00:54:03.050 --> 00:54:04.160
Montreal
00:54:04.160 --> 00:54:06.830
hopefully everybody enjoyed the golf
00:54:06.830 --> 00:54:08.660
today and I look forward to answering
00:54:08.660 --> 00:54:10.670
more of your questions at the next live
00:54:10.670 --> 00:54:13.540
Q&A session
00:54:13.910 --> 00:54:15.970
you
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alright guys I think we've got
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everything up and running I'm coming to
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you live from Montreal just finished
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taking a giveaway class so I'm really
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constantly trying to learn and get
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better and I think he's one of the
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smartest guys as far as how the body
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works and how different parts relate to
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each other I think I got the microphone
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all good but please
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I'll check the comments let me know if
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there's any problems with the audio had
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it once before and would hate to go too
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far down the rabbit hole having it again
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but I want to thank everybody who's here
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trying to get some questions answered if
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you have a second just post your name
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we're in your location in the chat box
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and if you have any questions please
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list them there I will I'll check into
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that as we go through I've got a good
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list of questions from the the members
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of the website who sent in their emails
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beforehand and so we will let's get into
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stuff so I don't have my mini golf club
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I'm staying in an air B&B
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so I'm gonna be using my one of the
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kitchen utensils which is a great way
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for at home training clubface control
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definitely one of my go-to training aids
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I actually like or practice age I should
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say I actually like the flat section of
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for the grip or the flat handle very
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much like the messing around with a
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ruler so alright anyway let's jump into
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some of these questions so Vaughn asked
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about the 2040 takeaway No
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so in he's been doing the 2040 takeaway
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which is basically when you make your
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backswing and you get to about shaft
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parallel having your your hips turned
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about 20 degrees for shoulders turn
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40 degrees he compared that to in the
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past he's tried to do more of everything
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turning together in the backswing and
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he's he was asking success or he's
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having success and he was basically
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asking for permission which a lot of my
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students do you know there's so much
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conflicting information out there that
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just having someone you can go to and
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say does this make sense is this
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something I should keep working on can
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be helpful especially in the early
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stages of learning
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so yes the he was talking about how it
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seems to improve his transitions
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sequencing the danger of the hips over
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rotating and the club getting too much
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inside or I should say the danger of
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over rotating and using too much lower
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body is that the club can get too much
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inside so if everything turns the club
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can get too much inside during the
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takeaway and the problem is if the club
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gets too much inside and the golf balls
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out there I'm now going to have to start
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pulling too much in the direction the
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target and that can lead into an early
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extension pattern so a lot of golfers
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benefit from getting more of a feeling
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of a one-piece takeaway we're using a
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little bit more of their upper body not
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just the hips in the takeaway when they
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do that they're able to keep their
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weight distribution a little bit easier
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and it's not uncommon to then have
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improved sequencing in transition
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so absolutely Vaughn you've got my
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permission to continue with it had a
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good had a question from Glen Glen was
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asking about two of the hot topics so
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this the theme of this class is more the
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big movements of the golf swing so a lot
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of the questions that came in were
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relating to either the motorcycle or
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transition sequence or weight shift so I
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thought that I'd just kind of wrap them
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all together and make the big theme
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about the big movements well his
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question
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was about two of the hot topics in golf
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instruction being external rotation and
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twisting the club or what we were
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referred to as the motorcycle and he was
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basically asking you know what are my
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thoughts on those two I use those as
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part of my teaching transition is a key
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differentiator between elite level
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golfers and amateur golfers or poor
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level golfers there are patterns that
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Tour Pros tend to do in transition to
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help create speed and control the path
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and two of the major pieces that really
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jump out are the arm shallowing or the
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center of mass of the club getting
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behind or below the hand path so getting
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the club to drop a little bit more on
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the inside compared to where the hands
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are going an earlier clubface rotation
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or earlier twisting or squaring of the
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clubface those two patterns seem to be
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integral in to having more of a body
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rotation pattern on the way through so
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that's part of the reason why you see a
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lot of golf instruction kind of training
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towards those two key movements now I
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always one of my goals is to help
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golfers understand how pieces match
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together so that you're not trying to
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necessarily create a perfect golf swing
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but you're trying to build the ability
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to adapt by understanding how pieces fit
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together
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so the the arm shallowing and the
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clubface rotation works well with a body
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powered swing which then works well with
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kind of a delayed arm extension timing
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and a good body rotation on the way
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through so all these pieces need to fit
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together but the two key move key
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movements of arm shallowing and face
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rotation during transition tend to be a
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couple of the early downswing patterns
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that jump out at us
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when you look at the numbers so I think
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there's a lot of comments there because
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I think it's a key differentiator and
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it's a-you know anytime someone becomes
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trendy and you get a lot of success
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working on it it's bound to pick up
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steam and become more popular okay
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Trevor had a specific question about
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external rotation during transition and
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basically he's having trouble figuring
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out how to get down to the golf ball
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with external rotation so this one will
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be a little bit more demo based and a
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little bit more specific than just why
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your instructors talking about external
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rotation so external rotation is more of
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this rotation of the trail arm away from
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the target or away from the body like so
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and what can happen is when a lot of
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golfers demonstrated they'll try to
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really keep hero angle this up just a
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little bit so they will try to keep this
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elbow pretty high so it ends up looking
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like this now you can see that my right
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forearm in this position is pointing
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well up about above the golf ball so the
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key is how do I get this external
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rotation and get the club or get that
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forearm
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pointing more down at the golf ball
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because that forearm is going to have to
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point down to the golf ball in order for
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me to control the point and get the club
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down to the golf ball so if I get this
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external rotation and it's high I have
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two options I can either bend more from
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my hips but eventually that just becomes
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a very unethical
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if I bend too much from the hips it's
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it's likely I'm not gonna be able to
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rotate or use as much vertical force I'm
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not gonna be able to really use my pivot
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as well so then it becomes how do I
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externally rotate and get that form to
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point down so allowing that right arm to
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straighten just a little bit while still
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keeping that external rotation position
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because yes this is external rotation
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this is also external rotation so from
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the face on view that is external
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rotation but so is that and training it
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to be a little bit more of the movement
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where it's external rotation but more in
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line with the shoulder can help you get
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the Shaolin movement but also control
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low points so I see I tend to see that
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as a key difference here alright so I
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know that see a few questions coming in
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so I'll I'll take a quick break from the
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pre-scheduled ones and I'll jump in it
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looks like Dennis had a question about
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strategies to get the sternum facing
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down ahead of the ball by impact
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tendency is to be late in rotation ok so
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what he's talking about is getting the
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sternum so I'll use this as my reference
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but basically getting the sternum to be
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pointing out ahead of the golf ball at
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impact in order to do that the arms have
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to be more behind my body when I'm
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making contact and my arms have to kind
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of delay their timing in order to allow
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my body to get open if my arms started
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getting involved too soon and they are
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working more across my body like so and
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getting out in front of my sternum I'm
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never going to get it open
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so the normal progression would be all
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right how can I hit some golf balls
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making sure that my chest is open or my
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sternum is pointing where I want it to
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be so first thing I always do is I would
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use something like the merry-go-round
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and I would preset a good impact
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position and then I would do some little
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release drills or nine to threes from
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there if the second I started moving the
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club video showed or I could see on a
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mirror that I wasn't getting open then I
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would backtrack it even further and I
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would do something like the push ball
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drill just to get used to the body being
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open when there's arms extend so I would
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work on the position then I would get
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the movement then I would get contact
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with the ball with the movement
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and then I would throttle back into more
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like a 3/4 swing or maybe even full
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swings trying to duplicate that same
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position but you've got to work through
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a logical progression especially if you
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keep you know banging your head up
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against the wall basically if you're
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making the same mistake you've got to
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really either slow it down or shorten it
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in order to give your brain more time in
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space in order to coordinate that
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movement so I would do merry-go-round
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drill I would do push ball drill I would
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do impact fix I would do follow-through
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drills everything getting used to the
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body being open and the arm is more
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behind and if you start to find that
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when you do that you either top the ball
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hit the ball fin I have trouble with low
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point control of trouble with face
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control that will point you down what's
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the most logical next steps okay Justin
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was asking what are the keys to having
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the low point target side of the ball
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without swinging too much outside in so
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the keys to that basically what he's
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asking is if I actually don't have a
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golf ball and confident that there's not
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one here in this Airbnb so well we'll
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take the mouse and we'll say that here's
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the golf ball
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what he's saying is basically if I'm
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swinging through the ball golf ball how
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do I get the low point out in front of
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the golf ball like so without swinging
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too much outside in because when I swing
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outside in that does tend to get the low
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point more forward but it gives me a
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very challenging path to work with right
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it gives me more of a glancing blow so
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in order to get the low point forward I
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need to have my arms extend more out at
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the target so the two main factors for
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what control low point are where is your
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chest turning or your sternum pointing
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and the straightness of
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your arms specifically that trail arm
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since the hand is the right hand is for
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this down on the grip so if the right
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hand is trying to get into a wrist
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position like that and a straight arm
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your bottom this wing is always going to
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be further back if your chesco is more
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standing up and you're pointing more at
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the golf ball instead of down in front
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of it you will always struggle with the
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bottom swing being behind the golf ball
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so in order to get the bottom of swing
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out ahead of the golf ball but not come
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from the inside or sorry not come from
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the outside come more from the inside I
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have to have earlier face closing so I
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have to have the motorcycle movement
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which there are a couple questions on
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and we'll get to next I have to have
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more of the hands more in front of the
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chest in order to get that arm extension
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out there and my body has to be slightly
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closer to the ground and more rotated
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and side bent if you get that pattern
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that typically creates the situation
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where you'll get shaft lean and you'll
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get the low point out in front of the
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golf ball without swinging too much
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outside in I had to pick just one of
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those to work on it would be more of the
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face rotation component because if you
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the more you shallow things and the more
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you delay the closing of the clubface or
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the more you delay the arms those both
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delay the closing of the clubface so you
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have to close it a little bit earlier or
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differently in order to account for that
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okay we'll jump back to Tim Ford who
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asked about the motorcycle it's one of
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the one of the terms that we use to look
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at the shaft rotation so basically
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looking at if you have a club face like
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this twisting around its axis and it's
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typically done by the left wrist and his
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question was how much when what do you
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do if you're having too much how does it
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relate to shaft lean and how does it
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relate to side Bend and he asked what
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are the best drills to to try to
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encourage it so bunch of office
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jumping into the motorcycle and I think
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si saw a couple other questions related
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to motorcycle so we'll jump into that
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too okay first one timing of it the the
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important thing is that it happens by
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impact the the most common the two most
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common timings are either to do that
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motorcycle to end the top of the
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backswing or do the motorcycle to start
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the downswing but there are a few guys
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like say a Phil Mickelson or Charles
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Howell the third or John Senden or Rory
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Sabbatini who have more of a arm pole
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cast pattern who will actually do the
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motorcycle between chef's parallel and
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impact so it'll be very much a late
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twisting of the club I don't see that
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one very much with amateurs sorry um I
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think we're back hopefully we didn't
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lose too much I don't see that pattern
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very much with amateurs I tend to see
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that more with elite level players they
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kind of find a way to square it very
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much late and still keep speed the
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problem is with a lot of amateurs if you
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do that really late they don't feel like
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it's very powerful so the timing is
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typically either at the top of the swing
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or during transition not everyone is so
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seats the top of the swing when it's
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actually happening so during the
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backswing is an okay time if you have a
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hard time coordinating it more in
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transition and if it's if you're doing
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it more in transition I think there's a
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speed advantage to doing it that way but
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ultimately it just has to be done before
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you get to impact so anytime between
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takeaway and impact top of the swing in
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transition are the two most common
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how much the average is about 25 degrees
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of rotation at impact and they'll lose a
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little bit coming into impact so I'm
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gonna say average is probably 30 to 40
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degrees during the golf swing so if you
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started with about 25 degrees of
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extension of your wrist that means that
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impact you might have 10 degrees of flex
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or 5 degrees of flex or be pretty close
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to neutral if you tend to grip it more
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weak so if you're gripping it where the
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wrist is pretty much straight up and
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down like this then the guys who do that
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on tour would be more like that and
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impact or if you grip it really strong
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with a lot of extension then you can
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still have a little bit of extension in
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your wrist when you get to impact and
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you still did the motorcycle movement so
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it's a relative change compared to where
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it was at setup what happens if you have
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too much specifically you've talked
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about at the top of the swing well the
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more motorcycle you do the more it
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allows you to delay the arms and get
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your body open when it becomes too much
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in my experience it's almost always too
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much because the body didn't keep
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rotating and the arms extended and if
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you're going to have more of an arm
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extension pattern you may play better
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from a little bit weaker grip and you
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may play better from a little bit less
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so more on the 20 degrees of motor cycle
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rather than the max and the one of the
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other important things is if I jump back
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to that timing is most of the body
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driven swings will tend to have a
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motorcycle graph that looks pretty
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gradual so basically from the top of the
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swing down aim
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it will happen kind of smoothly and it
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will cover the whole range of motion
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what I tend to see cause some problems
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is especially if you're more of like a
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really aggressive arm puller you'll try
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to close it but you'll do it very
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quickly so you'll close it like this
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instead of closing it over the whole
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downswing so you close it really rapidly
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in transition and then you've got
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nowhere left to go and if you don't kind
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of hold it off on the way through you
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may hit more pulls or you could have
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leading-edge contact you could get a
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little bit steep so we want it to happen
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at the top of the swing we want it to
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happen gradually we want somewhere
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around 30 degrees of motorcycle
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somewhere in that somewhere in that
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general zone how does it relate to shaft
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lean the more shaft lean you have the
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more shaft the clubface will point to
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the right so you need that motorcycle
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movement to square the face and how does
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it relate to side Bend well typically
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the more side Bend you have the more you
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will pull and create shaft lean and
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otherwise you'd hit it fat and so the
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more side Bend you have typically the
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more motorcycle you need the a good
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example is a chip shot where you're not
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really going to have a whole lot of side
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Bend and because you're not gonna have a
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whole lot of side Bend you're not gonna
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have a lot of motorcycle movement you're
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tending to square the face even with
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that wrist having some extension not
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really coming in with the wrist bowed
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all right let me jump back in to the
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live questions which is perfect timing
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because Bruce PS is the motorcycle move
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something that is consciously done or is
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it the result of something else the I'm
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gonna say both there are I've worked
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with some great players who actively
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think about doing it I think that if you
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do it enough like let's say you really
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worked on this for two years you
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probably don't have to think about it
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too much and you'd be able to focus
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mostly on just kind of having almost
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like it
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hands feel and more of a body feel but
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if you're used to coming down more with
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an extended wrist than having a big
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scoop I think at least for a while
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you're going to have to feel like you're
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you know doing that motorcycle movement
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now the trick is to get know when you
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start trying to go from practicing to
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playing you want to shift your focus
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more from internal thoughts like I'm
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going to flex my wrist to an external
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flop thought of more I'm going to lower
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my initial flight and I'm gonna get the
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clubface more closed so thinking about
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the club as opposed to my hands we're in
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transition it may be great to think
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about the hands that can be one useful
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way to make it feel more unconscious but
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so I think that many golfers benefit
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from doing it consciously and you do it
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consciously enough until you don't have
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to think about it
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the danger with thinking about it too
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consciously is sometimes if you're
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overly focused on one area it creates
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almost a tension in the rest of the body
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so it might actually stall your pivot if
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you're trying to do like if you have too
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much of the attention on the wrist and
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that's where practice comes in where
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you're able to blend a feel of doing the
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movement but still being able to swing
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through the ball use your legs use your
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body all that stuff all right let me
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jump back to a couple of the pre
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questions so mark he was asking how do
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you how do you train rotation on the
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downswing in order to get rid of the
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slide so the slide and the scoop
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typically go hand in hand what'll happen
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is I've never seen a golfer who gets a
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lot of chef twists and white movement
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like this and also slides because if you
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did you would tend to have a really
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steep angle of attack and the low point
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way forward so everybody here all
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see that my last demo was off-screen
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most of the golfers who I see who
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struggle with more of a slide they have
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more of a trail arm disconnected
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internal rotation more of a scoop style
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release kind of like this and then they
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slide in order to get that low point
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more forward so my best bet is if you're
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trying to get more rotation you have to
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set up the arm movements in the club
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face position that will make it easier
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to have those arm movement or to have
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that that rotation component the slide
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complements the flip the motorcycle
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movement complements body rotation so if
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you have a slide and you have the
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motorcycle movement then it becomes a
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little bit trickier it's usually looking
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at muscle imbalances and trying to get
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more of the engine so I probably do some
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oblique testing probably do some glute
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testing just to see how your rotators
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are working but I'd say nine times out
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of ten the slide is more of a
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compensation for a release pattern than
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an actual situation itself ok had a
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question from Jason he was asking also
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about the motor cycle so like I said
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this one had a pretty heavy motorcycle
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theme
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he asked about Palmer flexing or just
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flexing your wrist as most people call
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it in the backswing how does this relate
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to the high draw and what's like
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especially if the club is facing really
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closed or skyward at the top well in
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order to hit a high draw you have to
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have the face close to the path and you
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need to have the path right of the
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target in order to get the high
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component you need to have either kind
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of Club that speed in order to get high
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enough spin or you need to have a high
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enough launch but in order to get it to
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draw you need to have the path more out
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to the right for a right-handed golfer
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and the clubface closed so having the
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clubface closed during the backswing
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you know kind of rolling those hands
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under can basically guarantee that
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you're going to
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ball that curves more to the left or
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draws so I always say if you're trying
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to make it draw then working on the face
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the path relationship is a really strong
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component to start with as far as it
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getting too close at the top I talked
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about that earlier
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that's only a problem if you also if
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your arm extension timing if you're
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swinging more at the golf ball instead
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of through the golf ball that can be a
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problem but if you're trying to draw the
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ball I would rather err on having the
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clubface too closed rather than to open
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and the those key movements being the
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shaft rotation and the path out to the
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right or the two key movements you got
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to work on okay one last question here
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and then we'll jump back into some of
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the live questions and this is was a
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good one Chris was asking about some of
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these matching pieces so you've got
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Dustin Johnson who appears to have more
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of a you know non-stop rotation through
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the through impact and then you've got
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Phil Mickelson who's got more of a stall
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flip pattern and then he actually used
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Rory
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so today's winner who gets really open
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but still also stalls and then he asked
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all right you've got golfers who are of
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the pelvis more open the pelvis more
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square the torso more open torso most
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more square you know what do you do so
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here's the here's my overall hierarchy
00:27:21.370 --> 00:27:23.899
you want to look at the skills you're
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trying to train and then you add the
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movements to improve the skills so the
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main skills are controlling the flight
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of the face to path relationship which
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will help control whether go straight or
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curves right or curves left controlling
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the path which improve which includes
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mostly low point and swing directions so
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basically hitting it solidly and then
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creating speed so if you're like for
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example a golfer like Phil Mickelson in
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order for his pattern what I've what
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I've seen with golfers who tend to be
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more of that arm pole club steepening
00:28:02.809 --> 00:28:06.320
then kind of flip stall on the way
00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:09.200
through here's what the main problem
00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:12.499
with that pattern is is if they swing
00:28:12.499 --> 00:28:15.320
hard they tend to lose clubface control
00:28:15.320 --> 00:28:18.350
so they tend to lose start line and they
00:28:18.350 --> 00:28:22.190
tend to have wild misses so if you're if
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that's your pattern and let's say you
00:28:23.960 --> 00:28:25.999
had to play tomorrow you're not gonna
00:28:25.999 --> 00:28:27.350
have time to change that pattern I
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highly recommend working on tempo the
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guys who've had that pattern and who've
00:28:33.080 --> 00:28:35.840
been very accurate tend to really
00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:38.749
throttle back so they tend to be
00:28:38.749 --> 00:28:41.690
swinging more around like you know 70 75
00:28:41.690 --> 00:28:45.019
percent not 90 percent if you have a
00:28:45.019 --> 00:28:46.970
mental Constitution where you want to
00:28:46.970 --> 00:28:48.830
swing hard and you really want to like
00:28:48.830 --> 00:28:52.419
hit the ball as hard as you can then you
00:28:52.419 --> 00:28:55.100
would probably be more accurate with a
00:28:55.100 --> 00:28:56.869
little bit more shallow shaft earlier
00:28:56.869 --> 00:29:00.980
face body rotation so again it's all
00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:03.679
about matching those pieces so Rory has
00:29:03.679 --> 00:29:06.409
a you know an unbelievable pattern
00:29:06.409 --> 00:29:09.769
especially for a driver but he can
00:29:09.769 --> 00:29:11.600
struggle with more of his wedge
00:29:11.600 --> 00:29:13.869
proximity and you can start with putting
00:29:13.869 --> 00:29:17.749
those might be related to why he's such
00:29:17.749 --> 00:29:21.590
a good driver there golf ball so when
00:29:21.590 --> 00:29:23.480
you're looking at how open the body is
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:27.139
how open the chest or the hips are you
00:29:27.139 --> 00:29:29.149
want to factor in what you're physically
00:29:29.149 --> 00:29:31.639
capable of what your capabilities are
00:29:31.639 --> 00:29:35.029
what skills you're trying to improve and
00:29:35.029 --> 00:29:36.769
then go from there
00:29:36.769 --> 00:29:38.240
if you're trying to work on low point
00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.480
control and you've got a major stall and
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:43.789
your body is close to the target well
00:29:43.789 --> 00:29:45.200
then you'll probably do better getting
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.679
more open so just thinking through the
00:29:48.679 --> 00:29:50.749
pattern as far as what you want to work
00:29:50.749 --> 00:29:52.940
on and then jumping back to it or
00:29:52.940 --> 00:29:55.210
working on the complementary pieces
00:29:55.210 --> 00:29:57.999
that's the the pattern I like to use
00:29:57.999 --> 00:30:04.159
okay it looks like Kevin he's asked when
00:30:04.159 --> 00:30:05.990
I try to flatten the shaft in transition
00:30:05.990 --> 00:30:07.610
and then look at the video on down the
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line
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I never get into my typical top of
00:30:10.950 --> 00:30:13.759
backswing spot I get low in flat
00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:16.529
anticipating the flattening move too
00:30:16.529 --> 00:30:21.899
early so what that I can either be good
00:30:21.899 --> 00:30:24.989
or that can be bad so like you know a
00:30:24.989 --> 00:30:26.999
golfer like more of a Jason Dufner has
00:30:26.999 --> 00:30:29.850
ten tends to have more of a flattening
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movement during the backswing so then
00:30:31.859 --> 00:30:33.359
you can be a little more aggressive
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.809
during transition and not get too steep
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but if you are working on shallowing
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then if you're too flat too early then
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it's gonna be hard to shallow from that
00:30:43.919 --> 00:30:47.700
position so one drill that could
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possibly help is doing drills where you
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hit from the top so you go up to the top
00:30:51.119 --> 00:30:55.169
and stall it will take away some of your
00:30:55.169 --> 00:30:57.889
upper body power source typically and
00:30:57.889 --> 00:31:00.690
allow you the time and space to work on
00:31:00.690 --> 00:31:03.139
either shallowing motorcycle movement or
00:31:03.139 --> 00:31:05.249
sequencing and using the lower body
00:31:05.249 --> 00:31:07.460
which we'll get into in a little bit
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okay
00:31:09.239 --> 00:31:15.690
another live question Jason Jason asked
00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:18.960
is the motorcycle and ulnar deviation
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.869
done at the same time do you need the
00:31:21.869 --> 00:31:23.970
hips open impact to have forward shaft
00:31:23.970 --> 00:31:27.629
lean on a full swing I'm gonna say let
00:31:27.629 --> 00:31:29.340
me answer the second one first I'm gonna
00:31:29.340 --> 00:31:32.309
say yes the the lowest I've ever seen on
00:31:32.309 --> 00:31:35.070
a Tour pro is about 20 degrees open with
00:31:35.070 --> 00:31:37.739
their lower body with amateurs I've seen
00:31:37.739 --> 00:31:40.139
actually closed at impact so it's
00:31:40.139 --> 00:31:44.220
possible to do I can't imagine that you
00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:46.320
would have your pelvis closed and still
00:31:46.320 --> 00:31:49.169
get the hands ahead and not have a
00:31:49.169 --> 00:31:50.999
really steep angle attack that that
00:31:50.999 --> 00:31:53.580
becomes the problem is um you have to
00:31:53.580 --> 00:31:56.059
understand that the angle of attack and
00:31:56.059 --> 00:31:58.710
the amount of shaft lean are independent
00:31:58.710 --> 00:32:01.080
variables and if you start if you don't
00:32:01.080 --> 00:32:02.940
get your body open enough it's hard to
00:32:02.940 --> 00:32:07.200
have shaft lean and not have a steep
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.599
angle of attack okay now the second one
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.820
is the motorcycle and you owner
00:32:11.820 --> 00:32:13.950
deviation done at the same time pretty
00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:17.940
much now here's one of the tricks or the
00:32:17.940 --> 00:32:20.909
caveat to that the right hand and the
00:32:20.909 --> 00:32:21.840
left hand are typically
00:32:21.840 --> 00:32:23.400
doing slightly different things in the
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.970
golf swing so especially during the
00:32:26.970 --> 00:32:29.640
early part of the downswing because of
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.830
how the right hand is on the club the
00:32:33.830 --> 00:32:36.960
increased lag typically happens more
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:40.470
from the trail wrist in order to get the
00:32:40.470 --> 00:32:43.679
good pressure point and in in order to
00:32:43.679 --> 00:32:45.990
go into external rotation in order to
00:32:45.990 --> 00:32:48.440
load the wrist all that happens in that
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.330
trailer wrist in order to start squaring
00:32:51.330 --> 00:32:54.419
the face that lead wrist is gonna tend
00:32:54.419 --> 00:32:56.490
to go into more that motorcycle movement
00:32:56.490 --> 00:32:58.710
and because of some of those couple
00:32:58.710 --> 00:33:00.020
motions
00:33:00.020 --> 00:33:02.809
you'll tend to go into a little bit more
00:33:02.809 --> 00:33:05.640
older deviation than at the same time so
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.250
that's why you'll frequently see golfers
00:33:08.250 --> 00:33:12.330
grips change a little bit on the club by
00:33:12.330 --> 00:33:13.649
the time they get to impact I believe
00:33:13.649 --> 00:33:15.570
Phil chin said it was about 20 degrees
00:33:15.570 --> 00:33:18.720
in his most recent research but the
00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:22.440
hands definitely change on the grip so
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.110
yes to your question motorcycling ud are
00:33:25.110 --> 00:33:27.570
typically done at about the same time if
00:33:27.570 --> 00:33:30.029
you had to break it down to kind of the
00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:32.880
Nano movements motorcycle what happens
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.059
slightly before the whole nerd deviation
00:33:35.059 --> 00:33:39.870
okay big will asked what type of swing
00:33:39.870 --> 00:33:41.549
movements or characteristics are the
00:33:41.549 --> 00:33:44.970
easiest on the lower back and is a lower
00:33:44.970 --> 00:33:48.270
back friendly swing incompatible with
00:33:48.270 --> 00:33:52.140
high club hezbi the simple answer is yes
00:33:52.140 --> 00:33:56.669
the higher you higher velocity the more
00:33:56.669 --> 00:33:58.260
stress that's going to come back through
00:33:58.260 --> 00:34:01.140
your body now if you can distribute that
00:34:01.140 --> 00:34:04.820
through your whole body then you can
00:34:04.820 --> 00:34:07.289
handle it repetition you know you can
00:34:07.289 --> 00:34:08.089
handle it
00:34:08.089 --> 00:34:11.429
500 reps a day or over the course of a
00:34:11.429 --> 00:34:13.520
decade like you can put in a lot of reps
00:34:13.520 --> 00:34:15.720
but if you already have an area that's
00:34:15.720 --> 00:34:17.040
kind of a weak point like your lower
00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:20.250
back then the faster that you swing
00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:22.710
potentially the more stress you're going
00:34:22.710 --> 00:34:25.080
to put into that area especially if
00:34:25.080 --> 00:34:27.240
using the lower back is one of the major
00:34:27.240 --> 00:34:30.899
ways you create speed or you're bracing
00:34:30.899 --> 00:34:33.629
strategy puts extra stress in the
00:34:33.629 --> 00:34:38.750
we're back so if I had to design a
00:34:38.750 --> 00:34:42.480
lower-back friendly swing one of the
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.000
most important things that I would try
00:34:45.000 --> 00:34:48.629
to include would be more of a gradual
00:34:48.629 --> 00:34:51.269
tempo through impact so that there was
00:34:51.269 --> 00:34:54.659
no real jarring movement you could
00:34:54.659 --> 00:34:56.250
potentially get more speed from your
00:34:56.250 --> 00:34:58.140
arms but one of the big keys would be
00:34:58.140 --> 00:35:00.900
trying to have really soft arms soft
00:35:00.900 --> 00:35:04.519
shoulders soft jaw to create less of a
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:08.400
an impulse at impact and more of kind of
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:12.930
a gradual absorption of that speed now
00:35:12.930 --> 00:35:15.420
the hard thing is that might not be how
00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:18.839
you feel powerful but it wouldn't really
00:35:18.839 --> 00:35:21.029
cost you too much in terms of club head
00:35:21.029 --> 00:35:24.599
speed alright let me get back to a few
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.990
of these good email questions that I got
00:35:27.990 --> 00:35:31.589
and hopefully will will tie things up
00:35:31.589 --> 00:35:34.170
with a few more of the live questions so
00:35:34.170 --> 00:35:38.640
Robbie Robbie asked about footwork its
00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:40.589
footwork his question was basically
00:35:40.589 --> 00:35:43.619
footwork is often talked about like hey
00:35:43.619 --> 00:35:44.940
footwork is really important but it's
00:35:44.940 --> 00:35:47.420
not really discussed in too much detail
00:35:47.420 --> 00:35:49.769
what do I like to see in the full swing
00:35:49.769 --> 00:35:52.019
so I'll give kind of just a real quick
00:35:52.019 --> 00:35:55.619
overview of footwork because you can get
00:35:55.619 --> 00:35:59.940
into specific details and should the
00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:02.339
footwork of someone who has more of a
00:36:02.339 --> 00:36:05.220
pronated foot or a neutral foot or even
00:36:05.220 --> 00:36:12.660
a a varus foot would their footwork be
00:36:12.660 --> 00:36:16.980
exactly the same it's hard to say okay
00:36:16.980 --> 00:36:19.470
the basic pattern that I like to see is
00:36:19.470 --> 00:36:21.690
let's let's talk about three main
00:36:21.690 --> 00:36:24.390
movements the foot we'll talk about kind
00:36:24.390 --> 00:36:26.279
of rolling or pronation supination on
00:36:26.279 --> 00:36:29.299
the foot we'll talk about flexing or
00:36:29.299 --> 00:36:32.160
kind of you know pushing through the
00:36:32.160 --> 00:36:34.019
ground and then we'll cop talk about
00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:36.660
like rotating the ankle or pivoting the
00:36:36.660 --> 00:36:40.289
foot this way in general the pattern
00:36:40.289 --> 00:36:42.509
that you're going to see with good ball
00:36:42.509 --> 00:36:44.910
strikers is they're going to pronate the
00:36:44.910 --> 00:36:46.530
foot first then the
00:36:46.530 --> 00:36:48.560
gonna push through the ground and then a
00:36:48.560 --> 00:36:51.600
round impact or usually after impact
00:36:51.600 --> 00:36:53.600
they'll start to go into rotation
00:36:53.600 --> 00:36:55.890
typically what happens with amateurs is
00:36:55.890 --> 00:36:57.780
they don't roll the foot they'll push
00:36:57.780 --> 00:37:00.480
and then they'll go into rotation so one
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.250
he asked uh you know what's something
00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:04.770
you can look for on video one easy way
00:37:04.770 --> 00:37:06.960
is if we're looking at the foot and you
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.390
kind of had a line on the outside of the
00:37:09.390 --> 00:37:12.030
foot what you'll tend to see is during
00:37:12.030 --> 00:37:13.620
the downswing it would the foot would
00:37:13.620 --> 00:37:15.480
never like the heel would never cross
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:17.280
through that line typically if they're
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.230
not rolling or extending if they're
00:37:19.230 --> 00:37:20.970
getting into that rotation first they'll
00:37:20.970 --> 00:37:22.650
pivot more around the toe of the trail
00:37:22.650 --> 00:37:25.320
foot and you'll see that he'll go away
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:27.840
from the target first um so that should
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.270
help give you kind of an overview at
00:37:30.270 --> 00:37:31.680
least of what's going on with the trail
00:37:31.680 --> 00:37:34.980
foot the lead foot is a little bit
00:37:34.980 --> 00:37:37.170
simpler it's just the weight gets into
00:37:37.170 --> 00:37:39.780
the toe and then it translates into the
00:37:39.780 --> 00:37:43.200
heel how it translates into the heel and
00:37:43.200 --> 00:37:46.260
what the the hip and the shoulders are
00:37:46.260 --> 00:37:48.030
doing it's probably a little bit more
00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:51.360
detail but the the trail foot itself is
00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:54.120
a little bit more complicated it's just
00:37:54.120 --> 00:37:55.980
got this banking movement which happens
00:37:55.980 --> 00:37:57.540
more from the mid foot and then the push
00:37:57.540 --> 00:37:59.400
movement which happens more from the hip
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.430
and then the rotation which happens more
00:38:02.430 --> 00:38:04.200
as a result of what the arms are doing
00:38:04.200 --> 00:38:08.940
on the way through okay Patrick asked a
00:38:08.940 --> 00:38:11.850
question about Davis love describing a
00:38:11.850 --> 00:38:14.670
pull the quiver this way and asking how
00:38:14.670 --> 00:38:17.160
does that actually create power so he
00:38:17.160 --> 00:38:19.470
sent a video of basically Davis love
00:38:19.470 --> 00:38:21.030
talking about how at the top of the
00:38:21.030 --> 00:38:23.370
swing he tries to pull that way as
00:38:23.370 --> 00:38:25.320
opposed to pulling down and what happens
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:29.160
is in the transition if I'm actually
00:38:29.160 --> 00:38:33.210
pushing this way with that left hand
00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:35.700
that will tend to cause a little bit
00:38:35.700 --> 00:38:38.910
more trail wrist extension and really
00:38:38.910 --> 00:38:42.030
good loading of those arms that tends to
00:38:42.030 --> 00:38:44.490
allow me to work more rotationally tend
00:38:44.490 --> 00:38:46.020
to allow me to work more with my whole
00:38:46.020 --> 00:38:48.600
body if I tend to get pulling more down
00:38:48.600 --> 00:38:51.480
vertically with the arms that will tend
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.320
to kick the club out which would feel
00:38:55.320 --> 00:38:57.490
like the wrists are going more that way
00:38:57.490 --> 00:39:00.040
pushing out almost encourages that
00:39:00.040 --> 00:39:02.110
downswing lag which contributes to
00:39:02.110 --> 00:39:04.240
better sequencing and total body
00:39:04.240 --> 00:39:06.490
contribution and that sequencing and
00:39:06.490 --> 00:39:08.650
total body contribution can relate to
00:39:08.650 --> 00:39:13.110
speed generation let's see
00:39:13.110 --> 00:39:16.900
Fred asked a couple questions I'll take
00:39:16.900 --> 00:39:22.600
on his first two so he asked the lower
00:39:22.600 --> 00:39:25.240
body in the backswing is it detrimental
00:39:25.240 --> 00:39:27.640
to have the lower body drop down in the
00:39:27.640 --> 00:39:31.119
backswing my or he specifically talked
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.340
about the head the hard thing is the
00:39:33.340 --> 00:39:35.530
head is not one of the more accurate
00:39:35.530 --> 00:39:38.080
things to measure three duis because at
00:39:38.080 --> 00:39:40.810
least on a mmm they use the sensor to
00:39:40.810 --> 00:39:44.290
digitize the rest of the body some of
00:39:44.290 --> 00:39:45.730
the other systems are a little bit
00:39:45.730 --> 00:39:47.470
better with the head but most of the 3d
00:39:47.470 --> 00:39:51.970
data I've seen is a mmm and the other
00:39:51.970 --> 00:39:54.880
thing is you could have you could have
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:56.710
your head lower in a variety different
00:39:56.710 --> 00:39:58.360
ways you could have your have your head
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.040
lower from side Bend you could have your
00:40:00.040 --> 00:40:02.380
head lower from tucking your chin you
00:40:02.380 --> 00:40:03.910
could have your head lower from what
00:40:03.910 --> 00:40:06.070
your hips are doing there's a lot of
00:40:06.070 --> 00:40:09.940
different ways to lower the head so what
00:40:09.940 --> 00:40:11.710
I've seen is that the thorax typically
00:40:11.710 --> 00:40:13.390
on average will drop about one to two
00:40:13.390 --> 00:40:15.550
inches if you assume that the neck stays
00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:19.030
pretty much neutral or even shortens
00:40:19.030 --> 00:40:20.380
from getting into a little bit of left
00:40:20.380 --> 00:40:23.080
hill then you would expect that most
00:40:23.080 --> 00:40:25.359
people's heads would drop a little bit
00:40:25.359 --> 00:40:27.100
in the backswing so I would say that
00:40:27.100 --> 00:40:28.660
that's not going to be detrimental as
00:40:28.660 --> 00:40:32.170
far as creating speed his sexy is a
00:40:32.170 --> 00:40:36.280
second question was from the face on how
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:40.090
do you get fully rotated at pH so I was
00:40:40.090 --> 00:40:42.460
not familiar with the P system let's say
00:40:42.460 --> 00:40:45.310
impact is P seven they kind of go
00:40:45.310 --> 00:40:47.380
through so P eight is about when the
00:40:47.380 --> 00:40:49.980
shaft is parallel to the ground and
00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:52.210
basically asking how do I get my body
00:40:52.210 --> 00:40:55.390
facing the target now the most the
00:40:55.390 --> 00:40:57.460
biggest barrier to getting your body
00:40:57.460 --> 00:40:59.800
open at P eight is the amount of
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.500
rotation in that lead hip so making sure
00:41:02.500 --> 00:41:04.960
that you have enough left foot turn out
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:07.270
or left foot flare so that your body can
00:41:07.270 --> 00:41:09.340
face the target is one of the biggest
00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:10.060
barriers
00:41:10.060 --> 00:41:13.330
if that's not the case if you can get
00:41:13.330 --> 00:41:15.490
there without a golf club if you can
00:41:15.490 --> 00:41:18.250
just pose it then it usually comes down
00:41:18.250 --> 00:41:20.860
to clubface or low point control and
00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:23.380
basically you're using earlier arm
00:41:23.380 --> 00:41:25.540
action in order to square the face or
00:41:25.540 --> 00:41:27.430
control the point and so you got to do a
00:41:27.430 --> 00:41:29.380
little investigating and figure out
00:41:29.380 --> 00:41:30.880
which of those two it is because they
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.510
have slightly different solutions all
00:41:34.510 --> 00:41:38.040
right back to the live questions Ryan
00:41:38.040 --> 00:41:42.400
it's asking I fight a steep hook pattern
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:44.080
with early extension working on the
00:41:44.080 --> 00:41:46.120
motorcycle to shallow but struggle to
00:41:46.120 --> 00:41:47.950
delay the arms long enough to avoid
00:41:47.950 --> 00:41:50.470
closed face trying to get the body open
00:41:50.470 --> 00:41:53.560
impact steepens the path and feats my
00:41:53.560 --> 00:41:56.530
shallowing progress any suggestions you
00:41:56.530 --> 00:41:59.800
know it is a it is one of the more
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.510
frustrating patterns when you're steep
00:42:01.510 --> 00:42:04.780
and from the inside which can cause
00:42:04.780 --> 00:42:08.170
steep miss patterns as well as hook or
00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:12.130
overlay into out patterns okay
00:42:12.130 --> 00:42:16.780
so how do you I would say that I'm just
00:42:16.780 --> 00:42:18.010
going off a hunch based on your
00:42:18.010 --> 00:42:20.890
description but the ulnar deviation is
00:42:20.890 --> 00:42:22.990
probably the bigger key shallowing
00:42:22.990 --> 00:42:26.640
movement then getting the arm extension
00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:31.150
those are the arm rotation so working on
00:42:31.150 --> 00:42:35.050
getting the club to be more down back
00:42:35.050 --> 00:42:40.020
there will allow your body to rotate
00:42:40.020 --> 00:42:43.020
without getting too steep the problem is
00:42:43.020 --> 00:42:45.970
that body rotation if you have the shaft
00:42:45.970 --> 00:42:49.090
in a neutral position will tend to cause
00:42:49.090 --> 00:42:52.140
the club to swing on more of a lower
00:42:52.140 --> 00:42:54.280
vertical swing plane and tend to get
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:57.700
really steep so working on shallowing
00:42:57.700 --> 00:43:00.010
and almost pointing back about 45
00:43:00.010 --> 00:43:02.950
degrees and then allowing that body
00:43:02.950 --> 00:43:05.200
rotation to take the arms a little bit
00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:07.750
more around to the left I got a number
00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:09.610
of sites on the or drills on the site
00:43:09.610 --> 00:43:12.280
the hit my arm is drill the drill with
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.860
the foam rollers hands in Club out
00:43:14.860 --> 00:43:16.240
there's a bunch of different ways to
00:43:16.240 --> 00:43:18.850
work on that follow-through side and
00:43:18.850 --> 00:43:21.680
then the isolated on
00:43:21.680 --> 00:43:23.990
and impact of face rotation when the
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impact bag or whole different ways there
00:43:26.450 --> 00:43:28.970
but there's a variety for working on
00:43:28.970 --> 00:43:31.520
ulnar deviation or unhinge if you search
00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:32.930
those topics on the site they will
00:43:32.930 --> 00:43:34.339
probably point you in the right
00:43:34.339 --> 00:43:38.930
direction of how to shallow and how that
00:43:38.930 --> 00:43:43.069
works with body rotation all right
00:43:43.069 --> 00:43:46.099
we're gonna do just a couple more I
00:43:46.099 --> 00:43:47.750
don't think we'll be able to get to
00:43:47.750 --> 00:43:50.809
everybody's questions today because I've
00:43:50.809 --> 00:43:54.319
got a few left on the emails and I can
00:43:54.319 --> 00:43:56.540
see there's half a dozen or so here so
00:43:56.540 --> 00:43:58.220
we'll probably schedule another Q&A in
00:43:58.220 --> 00:44:02.180
the next week or so all right let's see
00:44:02.180 --> 00:44:05.540
nick is asking can you explain how and
00:44:05.540 --> 00:44:09.050
why the CA om moves upward at the change
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of direction how do you get the ulnar
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deviation without early releasing so the
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.700
that kind of relates to the quiver
00:44:19.700 --> 00:44:23.660
question as far as how the co M moves
00:44:23.660 --> 00:44:29.510
upward basically if I let's see the
00:44:29.510 --> 00:44:32.750
easiest way to to phrase this if I was
00:44:32.750 --> 00:44:35.540
to pull down when you're looking at the
00:44:35.540 --> 00:44:37.130
the overall force and you're looking at
00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:39.829
the co M you want to look at okay here's
00:44:39.829 --> 00:44:41.960
my golf club the balance point is right
00:44:41.960 --> 00:44:42.650
around here right
00:44:42.650 --> 00:44:46.309
so the one of the classic examples is
00:44:46.309 --> 00:44:48.530
Sergio is someone who probably does not
00:44:48.530 --> 00:44:50.540
have the force going upward in
00:44:50.540 --> 00:44:52.730
transition because his if you look at
00:44:52.730 --> 00:44:54.559
that point during transition it will
00:44:54.559 --> 00:44:56.869
actually come down the hard thing is
00:44:56.869 --> 00:44:59.809
where where most people have it if you
00:44:59.809 --> 00:45:03.470
tried to pull that down either your body
00:45:03.470 --> 00:45:06.230
would get in the way you wouldn't be
00:45:06.230 --> 00:45:08.240
able to really rotate because you'll
00:45:08.240 --> 00:45:10.549
watch if I keep my hands on the club and
00:45:10.549 --> 00:45:14.180
I rotate my body the center here
00:45:14.180 --> 00:45:16.700
actually travels slightly up that way
00:45:16.700 --> 00:45:22.609
and around so it would be really hard to
00:45:22.609 --> 00:45:24.710
get the center of mass to go downward
00:45:24.710 --> 00:45:26.329
first during that early part of
00:45:26.329 --> 00:45:28.640
transition you would have to have you
00:45:28.640 --> 00:45:30.859
know one way would be to kind of delay
00:45:30.859 --> 00:45:33.349
any risk hock and then really kind of
00:45:33.349 --> 00:45:33.770
low
00:45:33.770 --> 00:45:37.220
on the way down but it would also take
00:45:37.220 --> 00:45:39.410
usually staying really close to the
00:45:39.410 --> 00:45:41.660
target more like Sergio if you start
00:45:41.660 --> 00:45:44.210
rotating with your body your hands are
00:45:44.210 --> 00:45:46.790
going to tend to follow the chest
00:45:46.790 --> 00:45:48.500
rotation of the body rotation and that's
00:45:48.500 --> 00:45:50.630
typically going to cause a little bit of
00:45:50.630 --> 00:45:54.460
the comm moving upward how do you get
00:45:54.460 --> 00:45:58.750
only deviation without early releasing
00:45:58.750 --> 00:46:02.930
I've got a couple of videos on casting
00:46:02.930 --> 00:46:06.440
verses or how only or deviation relates
00:46:06.440 --> 00:46:09.470
to lag and basically ulnar deviation
00:46:09.470 --> 00:46:12.380
doesn't necessarily create early
00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:13.490
releasing because there's two different
00:46:13.490 --> 00:46:15.830
ways to look at early releasing one
00:46:15.830 --> 00:46:17.690
would be the vertical height and then
00:46:17.690 --> 00:46:20.180
two would be the rotational movement and
00:46:20.180 --> 00:46:23.210
so I can only deviate and still keep the
00:46:23.210 --> 00:46:26.510
club way behind rotationally so that I
00:46:26.510 --> 00:46:29.690
still have lag coming in to impact the
00:46:29.690 --> 00:46:30.020
alp
00:46:30.020 --> 00:46:31.610
opposite I could get the club in front
00:46:31.610 --> 00:46:33.290
of me and keep the club up really high
00:46:33.290 --> 00:46:38.840
and I'd have to release earlier in order
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:41.480
to shallow it out and get the hands down
00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:43.730
or get the club down to impact so
00:46:43.730 --> 00:46:46.190
looking at the club being more behind as
00:46:46.190 --> 00:46:48.590
a source of lag might change your
00:46:48.590 --> 00:46:50.720
definition of early releasing because
00:46:50.720 --> 00:46:54.580
most of the Tour Pros I've seen have
00:46:54.580 --> 00:46:57.440
significantly much earlier only a
00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:59.980
deviation than what most people think
00:46:59.980 --> 00:47:05.720
okay let me jump back to a couple the
00:47:05.720 --> 00:47:09.050
last couple questions here and then I'll
00:47:09.050 --> 00:47:12.560
just have to I'll save the questions
00:47:12.560 --> 00:47:14.240
that have been asked and be sure to
00:47:14.240 --> 00:47:16.430
answer those at the beginning next time
00:47:16.430 --> 00:47:24.020
so alright Fred asks about the the stock
00:47:24.020 --> 00:47:25.670
Tour swing and basically what would
00:47:25.670 --> 00:47:28.310
normal pelvis grande bends kinematic
00:47:28.310 --> 00:47:31.220
sequins pelvic angles look like is there
00:47:31.220 --> 00:47:32.690
a difference between the iron and the
00:47:32.690 --> 00:47:35.710
driver okay so from the pelvis Bend
00:47:35.710 --> 00:47:38.750
basically maintaining your core as you
00:47:38.750 --> 00:47:43.420
go into the backswing
00:47:43.420 --> 00:47:45.700
so the the graph would basically look
00:47:45.700 --> 00:47:47.650
like it has more of a flat line instead
00:47:47.650 --> 00:47:51.250
of really dropping down or even going up
00:47:51.250 --> 00:47:53.440
there might be a little bit of extension
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:56.530
in the transition phase and then
00:47:56.530 --> 00:47:59.080
there'll be a pretty good posterior tilt
00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:03.730
we're using of the ABS during transition
00:48:03.730 --> 00:48:06.150
we're sorry' doing during the release
00:48:06.150 --> 00:48:11.170
the pelvis angle is looking at sidemen
00:48:11.170 --> 00:48:12.640
typically during the side Bend you'll
00:48:12.640 --> 00:48:15.220
have somewhere around 10 degrees of left
00:48:15.220 --> 00:48:16.930
tilt in the backswing and then right
00:48:16.930 --> 00:48:19.930
tilt during the downswing and kinematic
00:48:19.930 --> 00:48:21.250
sequence wise there's lots of
00:48:21.250 --> 00:48:24.250
information about the kinematic sequence
00:48:24.250 --> 00:48:27.700
I don't think I think having a
00:48:27.700 --> 00:48:30.970
transition sequence of lower body arms
00:48:30.970 --> 00:48:33.340
in club somewhere around the same time
00:48:33.340 --> 00:48:36.400
but after lower body and peaking order
00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:40.150
all makes sense I don't think that it
00:48:40.150 --> 00:48:43.360
has to be quite as clean as what has
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.360
been touted before I've seen a lot of
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:48.010
really good ball strikers who don't have
00:48:48.010 --> 00:48:49.990
what would be called a perfect kinematic
00:48:49.990 --> 00:48:52.780
sequence for a perfect peaking order but
00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:54.790
transition sequence and the club
00:48:54.790 --> 00:48:56.710
accelerating all the way to impact are
00:48:56.710 --> 00:49:00.780
two patterns that I typically look for
00:49:01.020 --> 00:49:03.190
the difference between the iron and the
00:49:03.190 --> 00:49:06.250
driver kinematic sequence wise when you
00:49:06.250 --> 00:49:08.140
get to short irons they become more of a
00:49:08.140 --> 00:49:10.780
cast pattern less of this really dynamic
00:49:10.780 --> 00:49:14.740
load and they'll tend to be less of
00:49:14.740 --> 00:49:19.660
access to there's an I did a video on or
00:49:19.660 --> 00:49:21.160
a presentation a couple years ago with
00:49:21.160 --> 00:49:22.870
the World Golf fitness summit on the 3d
00:49:22.870 --> 00:49:25.360
differences between the two I'd say that
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:26.560
would be a good place to start if you're
00:49:26.560 --> 00:49:27.780
looking for the graphs
00:49:27.780 --> 00:49:31.560
okay Brian had a quest question about
00:49:31.560 --> 00:49:34.510
transition power sources yes how was the
00:49:34.510 --> 00:49:36.550
crunch or side Bend a power source he
00:49:36.550 --> 00:49:37.900
kind of understood how the back
00:49:37.900 --> 00:49:40.300
extension could be a power source but he
00:49:40.300 --> 00:49:41.650
was having a hard time with how could a
00:49:41.650 --> 00:49:43.740
crunch or side Bend be the power source
00:49:43.740 --> 00:49:48.190
well basically anything that I can do to
00:49:48.190 --> 00:49:50.350
move this club can be a power source and
00:49:50.350 --> 00:49:53.480
so when I flex my trunk imagine
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:56.000
like a soccer throw-in that would be
00:49:56.000 --> 00:49:59.359
more of a flex pattern or imagined a you
00:49:59.359 --> 00:50:02.119
know an Axman using or you know
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.270
lumberjack using a hammer or sari using
00:50:05.270 --> 00:50:08.780
an axe or a sledge hammer that forward
00:50:08.780 --> 00:50:11.599
flexion pattern of that crunch can be
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:14.570
very powerful the side Bend is a little
00:50:14.570 --> 00:50:16.369
trickier to see because it's usually not
00:50:16.369 --> 00:50:19.550
a major power source and a lot of other
00:50:19.550 --> 00:50:22.460
activities but it can be more of an
00:50:22.460 --> 00:50:25.220
oblique type thing and it can really
00:50:25.220 --> 00:50:27.829
help with pulling those arms down that
00:50:27.829 --> 00:50:30.230
can be a big barrier for golfers who
00:50:30.230 --> 00:50:33.170
struggle with wedge play is getting more
00:50:33.170 --> 00:50:35.089
of that vertical drop from side Bend
00:50:35.089 --> 00:50:37.250
power source as opposed to just letting
00:50:37.250 --> 00:50:40.760
the arms fall but anything that moves
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.000
the grip can be a power source and
00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.859
because we want to go into more of a
00:50:45.859 --> 00:50:48.589
positive torsion a combination of
00:50:48.589 --> 00:50:50.510
flexing forward and rotating inside
00:50:50.510 --> 00:50:52.670
bending during the early part of the
00:50:52.670 --> 00:50:53.380
downswing
00:50:53.380 --> 00:50:56.960
going into that back extension usually
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:00.020
causes more problems than the speed
00:51:00.020 --> 00:51:02.839
benefits if you're a long-drive guy and
00:51:02.839 --> 00:51:04.460
you're always hitting it off a tee then
00:51:04.460 --> 00:51:07.010
the extension power sore it makes a lot
00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:08.540
of sense but if you have to control a
00:51:08.540 --> 00:51:10.540
low point it becomes a bit of a problem
00:51:10.540 --> 00:51:15.579
okay last question guy asked about
00:51:15.579 --> 00:51:18.950
lordosis in the transition and basically
00:51:18.950 --> 00:51:21.530
you know Kelvin Mia Harris talked about
00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:24.020
hum kind of some of the spinal engine
00:51:24.020 --> 00:51:28.700
stuff and locking the facet joints I'm
00:51:28.700 --> 00:51:31.700
not a hundred percent on I'm not a
00:51:31.700 --> 00:51:33.020
hundred percent convinced that that
00:51:33.020 --> 00:51:34.849
happens in golf in order to lock the
00:51:34.849 --> 00:51:36.589
facet joints you would need to go into
00:51:36.589 --> 00:51:39.829
full range of motion or go near full
00:51:39.829 --> 00:51:42.650
extension so let's say that you've got
00:51:42.650 --> 00:51:44.960
somewhere between 20 and 40 degrees of
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.720
spine extension in the lumbar spine I
00:51:47.720 --> 00:51:50.660
don't see that much extension what I
00:51:50.660 --> 00:51:53.869
typically see on 3d graphs is maybe a
00:51:53.869 --> 00:51:57.859
few degrees up to five degrees of kind
00:51:57.859 --> 00:52:02.810
of going in that anterior tilt that can
00:52:02.810 --> 00:52:05.390
stretch the obliques and preload the ABS
00:52:05.390 --> 00:52:06.080
so that then
00:52:06.080 --> 00:52:08.210
when you rotate them it becomes a power
00:52:08.210 --> 00:52:11.540
source but I don't see it as a spinal
00:52:11.540 --> 00:52:14.780
engine lumbar locking I'd have to see
00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:18.190
some higher numbers in terms of
00:52:18.190 --> 00:52:21.170
extension side Bend for me to buy into
00:52:21.170 --> 00:52:23.990
that pattern so I'm a bigger fan of
00:52:23.990 --> 00:52:27.860
training more of a unified or connected
00:52:27.860 --> 00:52:31.810
core instead of just trying to extend
00:52:31.810 --> 00:52:34.790
the lumbar spine I like to think of the
00:52:34.790 --> 00:52:36.710
whole spine working as a unit starting
00:52:36.710 --> 00:52:39.800
at the sacrum and if you're gonna work
00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:42.020
that way it's tending to go into more of
00:52:42.020 --> 00:52:44.120
a positive torsion not so much the
00:52:44.120 --> 00:52:46.430
extension and you'll just have a little
00:52:46.430 --> 00:52:47.840
bit of maybe a stretch shorten
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:51.620
beforehand okay so like I said I will
00:52:51.620 --> 00:52:53.690
write down and or I'll copy all the
00:52:53.690 --> 00:52:55.430
questions that I didn't get to this time
00:52:55.430 --> 00:52:58.910
and we'll get another lives Q&A
00:52:58.910 --> 00:53:00.890
scheduled hopefully in the next week or
00:53:00.890 --> 00:53:03.230
so I want to thank everybody for tuning
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00:53:40.210 --> 00:53:42.470
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Montreal
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hopefully everybody enjoyed the golf
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today and I look forward to answering
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more of your questions at the next live
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