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Understanding Normal Forces in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify how normal forces affect your swing dynamics.
  • Understand the relationship between your body's position and the club's movement.
  • Gain insights into optimizing your swing for better control and power.

In this video, we explore the concept of normal forces and how they relate to your golf swing. Understanding these forces will help you improve your swing mechanics and overall performance on the course.

Video Transcript
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In this Golf Smart Insight, we're going to talk about going normal.

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So first, let's define what normal is, and that's actually fairly tricky,

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because there

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are a couple different ways that you can define going normal, depending on your

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reference

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point.

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A normal force is essentially a force that's perpendicular.

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So in physics class, we always had, you would start with the equation with

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gravity is going

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straight down, and normal force is going straight back up at gravity, because

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they're perpendicular

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to each other.

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So the normal force when I'm swinging something, we can go back to head cover

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swing.

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So if I was to swing this object like so, essentially what will happen is I'm

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going

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to give it a little bit of a linear force to kind of get it going, and then

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boom, I'm

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going to get into a normal force like so, which basically I'm going to be

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pulling away from

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the direction that it's rotating, and that's going to cause, so it's going this

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way, because

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I'm pulling this way.

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It's essentially a normal force, because I'm pulling away from where the mass

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is kind of

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going out away from me.

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Okay, so how does that apply to the golf swing?

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Well, there's a couple different ways that you could define your normal force.

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You could define the normal force just based on the instantaneous axis that the

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club is

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swinging around, or you could define the normal force dependent on your body.

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Now because of how I look at 3D and tend to talk about the golf swing, I tend

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to defer

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more towards defining it based on a global scale or looking at your body.

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So in the global scale, a normal force is going to be dead up this longitudinal

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axis.

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So when the force is coming straight back towards me from this shaft, the force

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is normal.

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Anytime that there is a difference between where the force is and where the

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shaft is,

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it would not technically be normal.

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It could be going normal, it could be going away from normal, but it would not

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technically

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be normal, where in the instantaneous axis method, basically if the force is

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not going

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in the direction of the target, it could be considered normal, which there was

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a famous

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paper by Nesbitt and I believe he used that method for calculating normal force

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.

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So when I'm talking about normal force, what I'm typically referring to is the

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point where

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everything is kind of being pulled out and the force is going straight up and

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down that

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shaft.

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So at that point, you're basically going to have, you've maxed out your ulnar

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deviation,

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you've maxed out your elbow extension.

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In our particular case, you've had some form rotation to help get that even

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further away

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from you, but basically the grip is as far away from your body as you can get

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it.

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And it's not possible to have that point be at impact and further out at the

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same time.

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So at impact, if you were to look at it, and if you look at what Sasha Mack

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enzie presented,

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there's definitely kind of these competing forces that are hopefully trying to

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somewhat

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balance out so that the force is coming somewhere back up towards me, but it's

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not completely

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normal if you're using the body as the reference point until it gets out in

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this position and

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you feel kind of that little bit of a tug.

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Now the normal force is frequently described as a pulling motion and as you saw

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with the

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head cover swings, that makes a lot of sense.

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But for some golfers, feeling like it's pulling motion may not make the most

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sense.

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So here would be the analogy.

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If you were doing a pull up, so imagine you got a bar above you and you grab it

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, you're

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going to pull yourself up and then you're going to pull yourself down.

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If that makes sense to you, then yes, this is going to be a pulling motion

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because essentially

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what's going to happen is in this pull up, I'm going to use the muscles in my

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back and

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my shoulders to pull myself up.

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And then those same muscles are going to be acting while they're lengthening or

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doing

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what's called an eccentric contraction to lower myself down.

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But the forces going through my body are the same muscles that pull.

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And so if you were to measure them, they would still be working away from me in

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a pull

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direction.

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It's kind of what's happening here is when I go through and as I'm working

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towards normal,

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the club is moving away from me and my elbows are straightening.

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So all these things are lengthening out as my body works slightly backward.

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So I'm pulling even though it's going away from me.

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So that's where I think some of the confusion as far as the application of how

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to go normal

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can happen, the majority of the normal force should happen from the legs

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pushing the upper

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body back and away as your arms release.

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And that creates this tug on the club.

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What a lot of amateur to do is they get to kind of this point of no return

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where you've

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got no access till becoming very, very steep.

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And so they will pull their arms in and create the normal force this way.

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Every golfer, virtually every golfer I've ever looked at creates a normal force

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down

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near impact.

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It's just a matter of how they do it, which is going to dictate how much

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success they're

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going to have with their swing.

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I think that should help clarify what I mean when I'm discussing going normal.

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I know that everybody else can have different definitions depending on their

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perspective.

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I just want to clarify mine.
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Understanding Normal Forces in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify how normal forces affect your swing dynamics.
  • Understand the relationship between your body's position and the club's movement.
  • Gain insights into optimizing your swing for better control and power.

In this video, we explore the concept of normal forces and how they relate to your golf swing. Understanding these forces will help you improve your swing mechanics and overall performance on the course.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.000
In this Golf Smart Insight, we're going to talk about going normal.

2
00:00:04.000 --> 00:00:10.080
So first, let's define what normal is, and that's actually fairly tricky,

3
00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:10.520
because there

4
00:00:10.520 --> 00:00:13.700
are a couple different ways that you can define going normal, depending on your

5
00:00:13.700 --> 00:00:14.220
reference

6
00:00:14.220 --> 00:00:15.220
point.

7
00:00:15.220 --> 00:00:18.680
A normal force is essentially a force that's perpendicular.

8
00:00:18.680 --> 00:00:23.060
So in physics class, we always had, you would start with the equation with

9
00:00:23.060 --> 00:00:23.720
gravity is going

10
00:00:23.720 --> 00:00:27.070
straight down, and normal force is going straight back up at gravity, because

11
00:00:27.070 --> 00:00:28.120
they're perpendicular

12
00:00:28.120 --> 00:00:29.120
to each other.

13
00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:32.500
So the normal force when I'm swinging something, we can go back to head cover

14
00:00:32.500 --> 00:00:33.120
swing.

15
00:00:33.120 --> 00:00:37.050
So if I was to swing this object like so, essentially what will happen is I'm

16
00:00:37.050 --> 00:00:37.280
going

17
00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:41.220
to give it a little bit of a linear force to kind of get it going, and then

18
00:00:41.220 --> 00:00:41.840
boom, I'm

19
00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:46.400
going to get into a normal force like so, which basically I'm going to be

20
00:00:46.400 --> 00:00:47.840
pulling away from

21
00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:54.630
the direction that it's rotating, and that's going to cause, so it's going this

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way, because

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00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:57.360
I'm pulling this way.

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It's essentially a normal force, because I'm pulling away from where the mass

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is kind of

26
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going out away from me.

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Okay, so how does that apply to the golf swing?

28
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Well, there's a couple different ways that you could define your normal force.

29
00:01:11.320 --> 00:01:15.240
You could define the normal force just based on the instantaneous axis that the

30
00:01:15.240 --> 00:01:15.440
club is

31
00:01:15.440 --> 00:01:20.240
swinging around, or you could define the normal force dependent on your body.

32
00:01:20.240 --> 00:01:24.280
Now because of how I look at 3D and tend to talk about the golf swing, I tend

33
00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:24.840
to defer

34
00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:30.720
more towards defining it based on a global scale or looking at your body.

35
00:01:30.720 --> 00:01:36.180
So in the global scale, a normal force is going to be dead up this longitudinal

36
00:01:36.180 --> 00:01:36.840
axis.

37
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So when the force is coming straight back towards me from this shaft, the force

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is normal.

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Anytime that there is a difference between where the force is and where the

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shaft is,

41
00:01:49.240 --> 00:01:50.880
it would not technically be normal.

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It could be going normal, it could be going away from normal, but it would not

43
00:01:53.870 --> 00:01:54.520
technically

44
00:01:54.520 --> 00:02:00.620
be normal, where in the instantaneous axis method, basically if the force is

45
00:02:00.620 --> 00:02:01.440
not going

46
00:02:01.440 --> 00:02:05.310
in the direction of the target, it could be considered normal, which there was

47
00:02:05.310 --> 00:02:05.740
a famous

48
00:02:05.740 --> 00:02:11.060
paper by Nesbitt and I believe he used that method for calculating normal force

49
00:02:11.060 --> 00:02:11.360
.

50
00:02:11.360 --> 00:02:17.030
So when I'm talking about normal force, what I'm typically referring to is the

51
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point where

52
00:02:18.320 --> 00:02:21.660
everything is kind of being pulled out and the force is going straight up and

53
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down that

54
00:02:22.160 --> 00:02:23.160
shaft.

55
00:02:23.160 --> 00:02:27.570
So at that point, you're basically going to have, you've maxed out your ulnar

56
00:02:27.570 --> 00:02:28.480
deviation,

57
00:02:28.480 --> 00:02:31.120
you've maxed out your elbow extension.

58
00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:35.500
In our particular case, you've had some form rotation to help get that even

59
00:02:35.500 --> 00:02:36.220
further away

60
00:02:36.220 --> 00:02:41.540
from you, but basically the grip is as far away from your body as you can get

61
00:02:41.540 --> 00:02:41.960
it.

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00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:47.280
And it's not possible to have that point be at impact and further out at the

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00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:48.560
same time.

64
00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:54.580
So at impact, if you were to look at it, and if you look at what Sasha Mack

65
00:02:54.580 --> 00:02:56.160
enzie presented,

66
00:02:56.160 --> 00:03:00.080
there's definitely kind of these competing forces that are hopefully trying to

67
00:03:00.080 --> 00:03:00.240
somewhat

68
00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:05.170
balance out so that the force is coming somewhere back up towards me, but it's

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00:03:05.170 --> 00:03:06.080
not completely

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00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:10.780
normal if you're using the body as the reference point until it gets out in

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00:03:10.780 --> 00:03:11.920
this position and

72
00:03:11.920 --> 00:03:13.800
you feel kind of that little bit of a tug.

73
00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:18.180
Now the normal force is frequently described as a pulling motion and as you saw

74
00:03:18.180 --> 00:03:18.680
with the

75
00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:21.800
head cover swings, that makes a lot of sense.

76
00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:27.120
But for some golfers, feeling like it's pulling motion may not make the most

77
00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:27.800
sense.

78
00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:29.240
So here would be the analogy.

79
00:03:29.240 --> 00:03:32.510
If you were doing a pull up, so imagine you got a bar above you and you grab it

80
00:03:32.510 --> 00:03:33.080
, you're

81
00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:37.360
going to pull yourself up and then you're going to pull yourself down.

82
00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.220
If that makes sense to you, then yes, this is going to be a pulling motion

83
00:03:40.220 --> 00:03:41.200
because essentially

84
00:03:41.200 --> 00:03:44.680
what's going to happen is in this pull up, I'm going to use the muscles in my

85
00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:45.160
back and

86
00:03:45.160 --> 00:03:47.280
my shoulders to pull myself up.

87
00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:50.400
And then those same muscles are going to be acting while they're lengthening or

88
00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:50.720
doing

89
00:03:50.720 --> 00:03:55.800
what's called an eccentric contraction to lower myself down.

90
00:03:55.800 --> 00:03:59.960
But the forces going through my body are the same muscles that pull.

91
00:03:59.960 --> 00:04:03.290
And so if you were to measure them, they would still be working away from me in

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00:04:03.290 --> 00:04:03.800
a pull

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00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:04.800
direction.

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00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:09.960
It's kind of what's happening here is when I go through and as I'm working

95
00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:11.320
towards normal,

96
00:04:11.320 --> 00:04:15.680
the club is moving away from me and my elbows are straightening.

97
00:04:15.680 --> 00:04:20.480
So all these things are lengthening out as my body works slightly backward.

98
00:04:20.480 --> 00:04:24.280
So I'm pulling even though it's going away from me.

99
00:04:24.280 --> 00:04:29.600
So that's where I think some of the confusion as far as the application of how

100
00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:30.520
to go normal

101
00:04:30.520 --> 00:04:35.560
can happen, the majority of the normal force should happen from the legs

102
00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:36.880
pushing the upper

103
00:04:36.880 --> 00:04:41.400
body back and away as your arms release.

104
00:04:41.400 --> 00:04:44.680
And that creates this tug on the club.

105
00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.800
What a lot of amateur to do is they get to kind of this point of no return

106
00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:49.740
where you've

107
00:04:49.740 --> 00:04:52.720
got no access till becoming very, very steep.

108
00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:58.200
And so they will pull their arms in and create the normal force this way.

109
00:04:58.200 --> 00:05:02.580
Every golfer, virtually every golfer I've ever looked at creates a normal force

110
00:05:02.580 --> 00:05:02.920
down

111
00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:03.920
near impact.

112
00:05:03.920 --> 00:05:07.130
It's just a matter of how they do it, which is going to dictate how much

113
00:05:07.130 --> 00:05:07.880
success they're

114
00:05:07.880 --> 00:05:10.080
going to have with their swing.

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00:05:10.080 --> 00:05:14.600
I think that should help clarify what I mean when I'm discussing going normal.

116
00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:18.980
I know that everybody else can have different definitions depending on their

117
00:05:18.980 --> 00:05:19.920
perspective.

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00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:20.920
I just want to clarify mine.
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