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How Extra Arm Angles Affect Your Side Bend in Golf

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify how arm positioning can lead to a steeper or shallower swing path
  • Understand the relationship between side bend and upper body balance
  • Recognize the impact of arm angles on contact with different club types

Learn how to connect your arm angles to your side bend for improved swing mechanics. This understanding will help you achieve better contact and consistency with your shots.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

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This concept video is connecting extra angles to side bend.

2
00:00:09.040 --> 00:00:14.870
So there's a population of golfers who tend to really hold on to this vertical

3
00:00:14.870 --> 00:00:15.600
angle like

4
00:00:15.600 --> 00:00:16.600
this.

5
00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:19.860
And if I did that and I didn't have a lot of side bend, you could see how steep

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and narrow

7
00:00:21.080 --> 00:00:22.080
this would be.

8
00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:27.280
So oftentimes, if I have a super steep arm pattern like this, then what I'll do

9
00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:27.440
is I'll

10
00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.880
get a lot of side bend kind of like this.

11
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So now, when I'm here and I ultimately do release it, I'm going to have some

12
00:00:36.310 --> 00:00:37.020
ability

13
00:00:37.020 --> 00:00:40.000
to kind of shallow it out.

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Oftentimes, these golfers really struggle with the fairway woods and the long

15
00:00:45.090 --> 00:00:45.400
irons.

16
00:00:45.400 --> 00:00:49.600
And they can get into really bad contact with the short irons.

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So it's usually the middle irons, like the nine iron through six iron when they

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tend

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to be okay.

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It's actually quite good.

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So this can be a tricky pattern because two things, one, that wrist angle is a

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feeling

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of power.

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Now, it's localized.

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It's a feeling of power mostly in the arms.

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There's not a lot of feeling of power in the core, but it's definitely a power

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feeling.

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And two, oftentimes, golfers have a hard time feeling that their upper body is

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too far back.

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Downswing happens very quickly.

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Visually, you get used to seeing it from this kind of backward sideways

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position.

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And it can be tricky to rebalance that.

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When I do, when I do want to work on that, there's usually two directions that

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you have

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to go.

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One is getting used to being wider, earlier, and more stacked.

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So getting used to having the arms a little bit wider, the upper body more

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forward, and

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then basically getting used to hitting it more from going into extension rather

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than buckling

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down, which often accompanies this really steep arm pattern.

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What happens is the arms get really steep, and then as they release or as they

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throw,

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the upper body tends to flex forward kind of like this.

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And then the lower body, you can see, accompanies that and kind of like flexes

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with it.

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So we're going to focus on the follow through side first of feeling like our

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arms are a little

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bit straighter and a little bit wider.

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And then we're going into some good extension and turn on the way through.

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So I'm more over that front foot, and then I'm extending through, just getting

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used to

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having this wide to begin with.

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Second piece we have to do is we have to decrease the incentive to get narrow.

56
00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.360
And there's two big places where that happens.

57
00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.430
One is that trail shoulder, and this is probably the most common, is that trail

58
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shoulder tends

59
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to get up, forward, high, steep, whatever we want to call it kind of gets this

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way, which

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accompanies kind of narrowing and pulling that arm in.

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So the combo there is more tension in the front side of the shoulder.

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If I was to bring that shoulder blade down and straighten the arm a little bit,

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it stays

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more in front of my pec, and it's going to be instantly wider.

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Now this is not going to feel like I have a lot of chop power, but this is

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going to feel

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more like I have more kind of rotational throw or rotational push pattern from

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my core.

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It's going to feel like I'm using more of the ribcage in this area, as opposed

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to just

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hitting it with this.

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So I usually focus on more of the shoulder blade, feeling like it's down and

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connected,

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and the hands are a little bit wider.

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And then if I did that, and did the old side bend move, I'm going to bottom out

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way back

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there.

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So what I'll feel is I can start to get into a little bit more cover.

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Now oftentimes when this goes this way, your upper body gets on top of it.

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So what almost always starts to happen is the first few times you do this, you

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get really

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steep from that down the line camera angle.

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And so if I get my shoulders a little bit better and get my wrists in a little

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bit more

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shallow position, now I can be more on top of it, but still coming from a

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shallow position.

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So phase one, we're going to get more on top of it and feel wider and some

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extension.

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And then phase two is we're going to make a backswing where we feel like we

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keep that

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shoulder blade in better position and connect those two.

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So the shoulder blade is going to get in better position.

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It's going to feel wider, maybe even.

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And it's going to feel wider because the arm is straighter, but it's also going

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to feel

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shallower because the wrist has show it instead of keeping it up here and using

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only the

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body to shallow it.

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That combination is going to support a more gradual kind of arm movement on the

101
00:05:06.700 --> 00:05:07.640
way through,

102
00:05:07.640 --> 00:05:11.920
but a more explosive body movement going into this extension.

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So it's going to be a little tricky pattern to work through, but most of the

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players who

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have had work through it ultimately feel like they get way more consistent.

106
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Really that narrow tilt pattern is one of the more inconsistent patterns.

107
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You can hit really good shots, but then you can hit terrible shots, terrible

108
00:05:31.190 --> 00:05:32.280
contact,

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shanks, big pull hooks, really big fat shots, lots of poor patterns.

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So I think it's to work on.

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You start with the follow through side and then work to the top of the swing.

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That's going to help you connect or get out of this really narrow arm movement

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with excessive

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00:05:47.640 --> 00:05:50.360
side tilt pattern.

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Kind of like that.
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Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

How Extra Arm Angles Affect Your Side Bend in Golf

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify how arm positioning can lead to a steeper or shallower swing path
  • Understand the relationship between side bend and upper body balance
  • Recognize the impact of arm angles on contact with different club types

Learn how to connect your arm angles to your side bend for improved swing mechanics. This understanding will help you achieve better contact and consistency with your shots.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.040
This concept video is connecting extra angles to side bend.

2
00:00:09.040 --> 00:00:14.870
So there's a population of golfers who tend to really hold on to this vertical

3
00:00:14.870 --> 00:00:15.600
angle like

4
00:00:15.600 --> 00:00:16.600
this.

5
00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:19.860
And if I did that and I didn't have a lot of side bend, you could see how steep

6
00:00:19.860 --> 00:00:21.080
and narrow

7
00:00:21.080 --> 00:00:22.080
this would be.

8
00:00:22.080 --> 00:00:27.280
So oftentimes, if I have a super steep arm pattern like this, then what I'll do

9
00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:27.440
is I'll

10
00:00:27.440 --> 00:00:30.880
get a lot of side bend kind of like this.

11
00:00:30.880 --> 00:00:36.310
So now, when I'm here and I ultimately do release it, I'm going to have some

12
00:00:36.310 --> 00:00:37.020
ability

13
00:00:37.020 --> 00:00:40.000
to kind of shallow it out.

14
00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:45.090
Oftentimes, these golfers really struggle with the fairway woods and the long

15
00:00:45.090 --> 00:00:45.400
irons.

16
00:00:45.400 --> 00:00:49.600
And they can get into really bad contact with the short irons.

17
00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:54.860
So it's usually the middle irons, like the nine iron through six iron when they

18
00:00:54.860 --> 00:00:54.960
tend

19
00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:57.120
to be okay.

20
00:00:57.120 --> 00:00:58.880
It's actually quite good.

21
00:00:58.880 --> 00:01:05.750
So this can be a tricky pattern because two things, one, that wrist angle is a

22
00:01:05.750 --> 00:01:06.600
feeling

23
00:01:06.600 --> 00:01:07.600
of power.

24
00:01:07.600 --> 00:01:08.600
Now, it's localized.

25
00:01:08.600 --> 00:01:11.880
It's a feeling of power mostly in the arms.

26
00:01:11.880 --> 00:01:18.280
There's not a lot of feeling of power in the core, but it's definitely a power

27
00:01:18.280 --> 00:01:19.280
feeling.

28
00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:24.930
And two, oftentimes, golfers have a hard time feeling that their upper body is

29
00:01:24.930 --> 00:01:27.880
too far back.

30
00:01:27.880 --> 00:01:29.600
Downswing happens very quickly.

31
00:01:29.600 --> 00:01:34.860
Visually, you get used to seeing it from this kind of backward sideways

32
00:01:34.860 --> 00:01:35.360
position.

33
00:01:35.360 --> 00:01:39.920
And it can be tricky to rebalance that.

34
00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:45.180
When I do, when I do want to work on that, there's usually two directions that

35
00:01:45.180 --> 00:01:45.640
you have

36
00:01:45.640 --> 00:01:46.640
to go.

37
00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:52.120
One is getting used to being wider, earlier, and more stacked.

38
00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:56.050
So getting used to having the arms a little bit wider, the upper body more

39
00:01:56.050 --> 00:01:56.920
forward, and

40
00:01:56.920 --> 00:02:04.290
then basically getting used to hitting it more from going into extension rather

41
00:02:04.290 --> 00:02:05.360
than buckling

42
00:02:05.360 --> 00:02:09.520
down, which often accompanies this really steep arm pattern.

43
00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:14.140
What happens is the arms get really steep, and then as they release or as they

44
00:02:14.140 --> 00:02:14.760
throw,

45
00:02:14.760 --> 00:02:18.200
the upper body tends to flex forward kind of like this.

46
00:02:18.200 --> 00:02:23.480
And then the lower body, you can see, accompanies that and kind of like flexes

47
00:02:23.480 --> 00:02:24.240
with it.

48
00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:31.350
So we're going to focus on the follow through side first of feeling like our

49
00:02:31.350 --> 00:02:32.560
arms are a little

50
00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.520
bit straighter and a little bit wider.

51
00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:40.560
And then we're going into some good extension and turn on the way through.

52
00:02:40.560 --> 00:02:44.920
So I'm more over that front foot, and then I'm extending through, just getting

53
00:02:44.920 --> 00:02:45.320
used to

54
00:02:45.320 --> 00:02:49.220
having this wide to begin with.

55
00:02:49.220 --> 00:02:54.360
Second piece we have to do is we have to decrease the incentive to get narrow.

56
00:02:54.360 --> 00:02:57.360
And there's two big places where that happens.

57
00:02:57.360 --> 00:03:01.430
One is that trail shoulder, and this is probably the most common, is that trail

58
00:03:01.430 --> 00:03:02.400
shoulder tends

59
00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:08.430
to get up, forward, high, steep, whatever we want to call it kind of gets this

60
00:03:08.430 --> 00:03:09.040
way, which

61
00:03:09.040 --> 00:03:12.920
accompanies kind of narrowing and pulling that arm in.

62
00:03:12.920 --> 00:03:17.440
So the combo there is more tension in the front side of the shoulder.

63
00:03:17.440 --> 00:03:21.130
If I was to bring that shoulder blade down and straighten the arm a little bit,

64
00:03:21.130 --> 00:03:21.640
it stays

65
00:03:21.640 --> 00:03:25.360
more in front of my pec, and it's going to be instantly wider.

66
00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:28.980
Now this is not going to feel like I have a lot of chop power, but this is

67
00:03:28.980 --> 00:03:29.800
going to feel

68
00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:36.050
more like I have more kind of rotational throw or rotational push pattern from

69
00:03:36.050 --> 00:03:36.840
my core.

70
00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:41.120
It's going to feel like I'm using more of the ribcage in this area, as opposed

71
00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:42.560
to just

72
00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:43.960
hitting it with this.

73
00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:50.800
So I usually focus on more of the shoulder blade, feeling like it's down and

74
00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:51.840
connected,

75
00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.920
and the hands are a little bit wider.

76
00:03:53.920 --> 00:03:58.420
And then if I did that, and did the old side bend move, I'm going to bottom out

77
00:03:58.420 --> 00:03:59.160
way back

78
00:03:59.160 --> 00:04:00.160
there.

79
00:04:00.160 --> 00:04:04.040
So what I'll feel is I can start to get into a little bit more cover.

80
00:04:04.040 --> 00:04:09.200
Now oftentimes when this goes this way, your upper body gets on top of it.

81
00:04:09.200 --> 00:04:13.760
So what almost always starts to happen is the first few times you do this, you

82
00:04:13.760 --> 00:04:14.320
get really

83
00:04:14.320 --> 00:04:16.600
steep from that down the line camera angle.

84
00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.920
And so if I get my shoulders a little bit better and get my wrists in a little

85
00:04:19.920 --> 00:04:20.360
bit more

86
00:04:20.360 --> 00:04:25.790
shallow position, now I can be more on top of it, but still coming from a

87
00:04:25.790 --> 00:04:27.400
shallow position.

88
00:04:27.400 --> 00:04:33.700
So phase one, we're going to get more on top of it and feel wider and some

89
00:04:33.700 --> 00:04:35.000
extension.

90
00:04:35.000 --> 00:04:39.230
And then phase two is we're going to make a backswing where we feel like we

91
00:04:39.230 --> 00:04:39.920
keep that

92
00:04:39.920 --> 00:04:44.160
shoulder blade in better position and connect those two.

93
00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.120
So the shoulder blade is going to get in better position.

94
00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.360
It's going to feel wider, maybe even.

95
00:04:49.360 --> 00:04:53.500
And it's going to feel wider because the arm is straighter, but it's also going

96
00:04:53.500 --> 00:04:54.000
to feel

97
00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:59.270
shallower because the wrist has show it instead of keeping it up here and using

98
00:04:59.270 --> 00:04:59.880
only the

99
00:04:59.880 --> 00:05:01.440
body to shallow it.

100
00:05:01.440 --> 00:05:06.700
That combination is going to support a more gradual kind of arm movement on the

101
00:05:06.700 --> 00:05:07.640
way through,

102
00:05:07.640 --> 00:05:11.920
but a more explosive body movement going into this extension.

103
00:05:11.920 --> 00:05:17.190
So it's going to be a little tricky pattern to work through, but most of the

104
00:05:17.190 --> 00:05:17.680
players who

105
00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:23.040
have had work through it ultimately feel like they get way more consistent.

106
00:05:23.040 --> 00:05:27.480
Really that narrow tilt pattern is one of the more inconsistent patterns.

107
00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:31.190
You can hit really good shots, but then you can hit terrible shots, terrible

108
00:05:31.190 --> 00:05:32.280
contact,

109
00:05:32.280 --> 00:05:37.400
shanks, big pull hooks, really big fat shots, lots of poor patterns.

110
00:05:37.400 --> 00:05:39.800
So I think it's to work on.

111
00:05:39.800 --> 00:05:42.600
You start with the follow through side and then work to the top of the swing.

112
00:05:42.600 --> 00:05:46.730
That's going to help you connect or get out of this really narrow arm movement

113
00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:47.640
with excessive

114
00:05:47.640 --> 00:05:50.360
side tilt pattern.

115
00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:54.600
Kind of like that.
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