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Understanding Shallowing and Supination in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Understand how shallowing the club affects your swing dynamics
  • Recognize the role of supination in achieving better ball contact
  • Differentiate between in-plane movement and shallowing for improved performance

In this video, you'll learn how shallowing your club during transition relates to supination and why it can enhance your swing. Understanding this connection can lead to better clubface control and more powerful shots.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
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In this golf-smart insight, we're going to discuss the shallowing as it relates

2
00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.040
to supination.

3
00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:13.080
So I see frequently that a lot of instructors are really big on the shallowing

4
00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:13.480
of the club

5
00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.280
during transition.

6
00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:19.240
Some of the mechanical research to back that up was modeled by Sasha McKenzie,

7
00:00:19.240 --> 00:00:19.800
presented

8
00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.780
with Chris Como in a video a few years ago.

9
00:00:22.780 --> 00:00:26.890
So everyone says, "Hey, you shallow the club and it helps create this passive

10
00:00:26.890 --> 00:00:27.520
torque that

11
00:00:27.520 --> 00:00:29.480
helps square up the face."

12
00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:34.360
And all that is mechanically correct.

13
00:00:34.360 --> 00:00:39.440
The problem is I then see some of the same instructors advocating a hold-off

14
00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:40.560
release or

15
00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:43.640
advocating minimal supination.

16
00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:48.700
So what I'm going to show you is that the whole purpose of this shallow move is

17
00:00:48.700 --> 00:00:50.280
to allow more

18
00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:56.080
supination or greater force with supination or allow you to supinate early.

19
00:00:56.080 --> 00:00:59.940
So if you're teaching someone not to supinate, I can actually make the argument

20
00:00:59.940 --> 00:01:00.720
that it doesn't

21
00:01:00.720 --> 00:01:05.020
make sense the shallow, you should actually just kind of stay with everything

22
00:01:05.020 --> 00:01:05.560
in plain

23
00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:10.600
similar to what we would do in the finesse wedge swing, where we have none of

24
00:01:10.600 --> 00:01:11.520
that shallow

25
00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:14.850
because we're going to square the face more with in-plane movement and we're

26
00:01:14.850 --> 00:01:15.360
not going

27
00:01:15.360 --> 00:01:19.960
to use as much of the supination during the release.

28
00:01:19.960 --> 00:01:27.530
So there was a video done a few weeks ago by Michael Finney talking about the

29
00:01:27.530 --> 00:01:28.720
components

30
00:01:28.720 --> 00:01:32.600
of alpha and he was talking about the moment of force.

31
00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:39.250
And that's really what we're talking about here and what this passive torque is

32
00:01:39.250 --> 00:01:39.760
when

33
00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:41.960
you shallow in transition.

34
00:01:41.960 --> 00:01:46.680
And the moment of force is going to allow us to supinate either harder or

35
00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:48.060
earlier depending

36
00:01:48.060 --> 00:01:50.160
on how you want to look at it.

37
00:01:50.160 --> 00:01:55.610
So I want to explain that moment of force, they've used a couple analogies that

38
00:01:55.610 --> 00:01:56.260
I think

39
00:01:56.260 --> 00:02:00.520
are pretty good, but just demonstrating with a golf club here, right?

40
00:02:00.520 --> 00:02:06.450
If I'm going to pull the handle and apply kind of a linear force that way, this

41
00:02:06.450 --> 00:02:06.640
club

42
00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:11.500
will want to line up with that force and basically it will want to move across

43
00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:12.920
just like this.

44
00:02:12.920 --> 00:02:19.620
So if the center mass is way down here, then when I pull it, it's going to want

45
00:02:19.620 --> 00:02:20.300
to move

46
00:02:20.300 --> 00:02:25.380
up towards that lining up basically with the direction that I'm pulling.

47
00:02:25.380 --> 00:02:29.830
If I headed up here and I did the same movement, yes gravity is going to help,

48
00:02:29.830 --> 00:02:30.500
but if I was

49
00:02:30.500 --> 00:02:35.540
in a vacuum and didn't have gravity, it would still want to move in that

50
00:02:35.540 --> 00:02:36.660
direction.

51
00:02:36.660 --> 00:02:43.360
So what happens is when I have that shallow movement during transition, now I

52
00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:44.280
can start

53
00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:48.800
supinating this forearm earlier without having an effect.

54
00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.990
So basically as this is just shallowing, I can start supinating, supinating,

55
00:02:51.990 --> 00:02:52.460
supinating

56
00:02:52.460 --> 00:02:58.060
and now it starts to move in the direction of supination.

57
00:02:58.060 --> 00:03:02.430
If I kept it in a straight, if I didn't allow that arm shallowing, then what

58
00:03:02.430 --> 00:03:03.180
will happen

59
00:03:03.180 --> 00:03:10.420
is the second I start supinating, the club is essentially going to move with it

60
00:03:10.420 --> 00:03:10.780
.

61
00:03:10.780 --> 00:03:16.900
So I am an advocate of supination during the release, I've never seen on 3D a

62
00:03:16.900 --> 00:03:17.780
good release

63
00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:21.020
that doesn't involve a fair amount of supination.

64
00:03:21.020 --> 00:03:25.020
So it makes sense to me that this arm shallowing allows golfers to feel like

65
00:03:25.020 --> 00:03:25.860
they start that

66
00:03:25.860 --> 00:03:27.420
release sooner.

67
00:03:27.420 --> 00:03:33.640
I teach the different methods that I think are common among the great golfers

68
00:03:33.640 --> 00:03:34.300
and how

69
00:03:34.300 --> 00:03:37.620
they release the club, how they do the shallowing movement and how they work in

70
00:03:37.620 --> 00:03:38.380
transition.

71
00:03:38.380 --> 00:03:42.950
But in this video, I just wanted to kind of help you with the thought puzzle of

72
00:03:42.950 --> 00:03:43.700
basically

73
00:03:43.700 --> 00:03:49.270
if you're advocating this shallow movement during transition, then what happens

74
00:03:49.270 --> 00:03:49.860
is when

75
00:03:49.860 --> 00:03:55.060
you go normal and when you start getting those things to line up, it's allowing

76
00:03:55.060 --> 00:03:56.220
you to supinate

77
00:03:56.220 --> 00:04:00.020
earlier and harder, which are good components of a release.

78
00:04:00.020 --> 00:04:04.400
So if you're teaching more of a hold off release, there's no real reason to

79
00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:05.180
then shallow

80
00:04:05.180 --> 00:04:06.980
during transition.

81
00:04:06.980 --> 00:04:10.310
And if you're teaching shallowing during transition, it should be to help

82
00:04:10.310 --> 00:04:11.340
support what you're trying

83
00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:12.580
to do during the release.

84
00:04:12.580 --> 00:04:13.580
Hopefully this helps.

85
00:04:13.580 --> 00:04:17.500
If you like the way we break this down, go over to GolfSmart Academy and sign

86
00:04:17.500 --> 00:04:18.020
up for a

87
00:04:18.020 --> 00:04:19.260
free membership.

88
00:04:19.260 --> 00:04:23.050
And you can take a look at a lot of the concept videos, drill videos that we do

89
00:04:23.050 --> 00:04:23.940
to help explain

90
00:04:23.940 --> 00:04:27.370
these current trends in golf sciences and how you can apply them to your game

91
00:04:27.370 --> 00:04:27.700
or the

92
00:04:27.700 --> 00:04:28.660
game of your students.

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Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

Understanding Shallowing and Supination in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Understand how shallowing the club affects your swing dynamics
  • Recognize the role of supination in achieving better ball contact
  • Differentiate between in-plane movement and shallowing for improved performance

In this video, you'll learn how shallowing your club during transition relates to supination and why it can enhance your swing. Understanding this connection can lead to better clubface control and more powerful shots.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.440
In this golf-smart insight, we're going to discuss the shallowing as it relates

2
00:00:04.440 --> 00:00:06.040
to supination.

3
00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:13.080
So I see frequently that a lot of instructors are really big on the shallowing

4
00:00:13.080 --> 00:00:13.480
of the club

5
00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.280
during transition.

6
00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:19.240
Some of the mechanical research to back that up was modeled by Sasha McKenzie,

7
00:00:19.240 --> 00:00:19.800
presented

8
00:00:19.800 --> 00:00:22.780
with Chris Como in a video a few years ago.

9
00:00:22.780 --> 00:00:26.890
So everyone says, "Hey, you shallow the club and it helps create this passive

10
00:00:26.890 --> 00:00:27.520
torque that

11
00:00:27.520 --> 00:00:29.480
helps square up the face."

12
00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:34.360
And all that is mechanically correct.

13
00:00:34.360 --> 00:00:39.440
The problem is I then see some of the same instructors advocating a hold-off

14
00:00:39.440 --> 00:00:40.560
release or

15
00:00:40.560 --> 00:00:43.640
advocating minimal supination.

16
00:00:43.640 --> 00:00:48.700
So what I'm going to show you is that the whole purpose of this shallow move is

17
00:00:48.700 --> 00:00:50.280
to allow more

18
00:00:50.280 --> 00:00:56.080
supination or greater force with supination or allow you to supinate early.

19
00:00:56.080 --> 00:00:59.940
So if you're teaching someone not to supinate, I can actually make the argument

20
00:00:59.940 --> 00:01:00.720
that it doesn't

21
00:01:00.720 --> 00:01:05.020
make sense the shallow, you should actually just kind of stay with everything

22
00:01:05.020 --> 00:01:05.560
in plain

23
00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:10.600
similar to what we would do in the finesse wedge swing, where we have none of

24
00:01:10.600 --> 00:01:11.520
that shallow

25
00:01:11.520 --> 00:01:14.850
because we're going to square the face more with in-plane movement and we're

26
00:01:14.850 --> 00:01:15.360
not going

27
00:01:15.360 --> 00:01:19.960
to use as much of the supination during the release.

28
00:01:19.960 --> 00:01:27.530
So there was a video done a few weeks ago by Michael Finney talking about the

29
00:01:27.530 --> 00:01:28.720
components

30
00:01:28.720 --> 00:01:32.600
of alpha and he was talking about the moment of force.

31
00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:39.250
And that's really what we're talking about here and what this passive torque is

32
00:01:39.250 --> 00:01:39.760
when

33
00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:41.960
you shallow in transition.

34
00:01:41.960 --> 00:01:46.680
And the moment of force is going to allow us to supinate either harder or

35
00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:48.060
earlier depending

36
00:01:48.060 --> 00:01:50.160
on how you want to look at it.

37
00:01:50.160 --> 00:01:55.610
So I want to explain that moment of force, they've used a couple analogies that

38
00:01:55.610 --> 00:01:56.260
I think

39
00:01:56.260 --> 00:02:00.520
are pretty good, but just demonstrating with a golf club here, right?

40
00:02:00.520 --> 00:02:06.450
If I'm going to pull the handle and apply kind of a linear force that way, this

41
00:02:06.450 --> 00:02:06.640
club

42
00:02:06.640 --> 00:02:11.500
will want to line up with that force and basically it will want to move across

43
00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:12.920
just like this.

44
00:02:12.920 --> 00:02:19.620
So if the center mass is way down here, then when I pull it, it's going to want

45
00:02:19.620 --> 00:02:20.300
to move

46
00:02:20.300 --> 00:02:25.380
up towards that lining up basically with the direction that I'm pulling.

47
00:02:25.380 --> 00:02:29.830
If I headed up here and I did the same movement, yes gravity is going to help,

48
00:02:29.830 --> 00:02:30.500
but if I was

49
00:02:30.500 --> 00:02:35.540
in a vacuum and didn't have gravity, it would still want to move in that

50
00:02:35.540 --> 00:02:36.660
direction.

51
00:02:36.660 --> 00:02:43.360
So what happens is when I have that shallow movement during transition, now I

52
00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:44.280
can start

53
00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:48.800
supinating this forearm earlier without having an effect.

54
00:02:48.800 --> 00:02:51.990
So basically as this is just shallowing, I can start supinating, supinating,

55
00:02:51.990 --> 00:02:52.460
supinating

56
00:02:52.460 --> 00:02:58.060
and now it starts to move in the direction of supination.

57
00:02:58.060 --> 00:03:02.430
If I kept it in a straight, if I didn't allow that arm shallowing, then what

58
00:03:02.430 --> 00:03:03.180
will happen

59
00:03:03.180 --> 00:03:10.420
is the second I start supinating, the club is essentially going to move with it

60
00:03:10.420 --> 00:03:10.780
.

61
00:03:10.780 --> 00:03:16.900
So I am an advocate of supination during the release, I've never seen on 3D a

62
00:03:16.900 --> 00:03:17.780
good release

63
00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:21.020
that doesn't involve a fair amount of supination.

64
00:03:21.020 --> 00:03:25.020
So it makes sense to me that this arm shallowing allows golfers to feel like

65
00:03:25.020 --> 00:03:25.860
they start that

66
00:03:25.860 --> 00:03:27.420
release sooner.

67
00:03:27.420 --> 00:03:33.640
I teach the different methods that I think are common among the great golfers

68
00:03:33.640 --> 00:03:34.300
and how

69
00:03:34.300 --> 00:03:37.620
they release the club, how they do the shallowing movement and how they work in

70
00:03:37.620 --> 00:03:38.380
transition.

71
00:03:38.380 --> 00:03:42.950
But in this video, I just wanted to kind of help you with the thought puzzle of

72
00:03:42.950 --> 00:03:43.700
basically

73
00:03:43.700 --> 00:03:49.270
if you're advocating this shallow movement during transition, then what happens

74
00:03:49.270 --> 00:03:49.860
is when

75
00:03:49.860 --> 00:03:55.060
you go normal and when you start getting those things to line up, it's allowing

76
00:03:55.060 --> 00:03:56.220
you to supinate

77
00:03:56.220 --> 00:04:00.020
earlier and harder, which are good components of a release.

78
00:04:00.020 --> 00:04:04.400
So if you're teaching more of a hold off release, there's no real reason to

79
00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:05.180
then shallow

80
00:04:05.180 --> 00:04:06.980
during transition.

81
00:04:06.980 --> 00:04:10.310
And if you're teaching shallowing during transition, it should be to help

82
00:04:10.310 --> 00:04:11.340
support what you're trying

83
00:04:11.340 --> 00:04:12.580
to do during the release.

84
00:04:12.580 --> 00:04:13.580
Hopefully this helps.

85
00:04:13.580 --> 00:04:17.500
If you like the way we break this down, go over to GolfSmart Academy and sign

86
00:04:17.500 --> 00:04:18.020
up for a

87
00:04:18.020 --> 00:04:19.260
free membership.

88
00:04:19.260 --> 00:04:23.050
And you can take a look at a lot of the concept videos, drill videos that we do

89
00:04:23.050 --> 00:04:23.940
to help explain

90
00:04:23.940 --> 00:04:27.370
these current trends in golf sciences and how you can apply them to your game

91
00:04:27.370 --> 00:04:27.700
or the

92
00:04:27.700 --> 00:04:28.660
game of your students.

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