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Connecting Arm Shallowing To Supination
Find out why arm shallowing is such a helpful move in transition. Also find out why releases that don't include supination don't benefit from arm shallowing during transition.
Find out why arm shallowing is such a helpful move in transition. Also find out why releases that don't include supination don't benefit from arm shallowing during transition.
Show transcript
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this golf smart insight we're going to
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discuss the shallowing as it relates to
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supination so I I see frequently that a
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lot of instructors are really big on the
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shallowing of the club during transition
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some of the mechanical research to back
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that up was modeled by Sasha and
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Mackenzie presented with a with Chris
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Como in a video a few years ago so
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everyone says hey you shallow the club
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it helps create this passive torque that
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helps square up the face and all that is
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mechanically correct the the problem is
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I then see some of the same instructors
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advocating a hold off release or
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advocating minimal supination so what
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I'm going to show you is that the whole
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purpose of this shallow move is to allow
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more supination or greater force with
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supination or allow you to supinate
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early so if you're teaching someone not
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to supinate i can actually make the
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argument that it doesn't make sense the
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shallow you should actually just kind of
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stay with everything in plane similar to
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what we would do in the finesse wedge
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swing where we have none of that shallow
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because we're going to square the face
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more with in-plane movement and we're
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not going to use as much of the
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supination during the release so the
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there was a video done a few weeks ago
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by Michael Finney at talking about the
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components of alpha and he was talking
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about the moment of force and that's
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really what we're talking about here and
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what this passive torque is when you
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Supan or when you shallow in transition
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and the the moment of force is going to
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allow us to supinate either harder or
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earlier depending on how you want to
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look at it so but I want to explain that
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moment of force they've they've used a
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couple analogies that I think are pretty
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good but just demonstrating with a golf
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club here right if I'm going to pull the
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handle and apply kind of a linear force
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that way this club will want to line up
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with that force and basically it will
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want to move across just like this
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so if the club if the center of mass is
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way down here then when I pull it it's
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going to want to move up towards that
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lining up basically with the direction
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that I'm pulling if I headed up here and
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I did the same movement yes gravity is
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going to help but if I was you know in a
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in a vacuum and didn't have gravity it
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would still want to move in that
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direction so what happens is when I have
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that shallow movement during transition
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now I can start supinating this forearm
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earlier without having an effect so
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basically as this is shallowing it can
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start supinating supinating pseudo
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mating and now it starts to move in the
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direction of supination if i kept it in
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a straight if i didn't allow that arm
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shallowing then what will happen is the
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second I start supinating the the the
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club is essentially going to move with
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it so I am a advocate of supination
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during the release I've never seen on 3d
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a good release that doesn't involve a
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fair amount of supination so it makes
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sense to me that this arm shallowing
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allows golfers to feel like they start
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that really sooner we teach or I teach
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the different methods of that I think
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are common among kind of the great
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golfers and how they release the club
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how they do the Shaolin movement and how
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they work in transition but in this
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video I just wanted to kind of help you
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with the thought puzzle basically if
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you're advocating this shallow movement
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during transition then what happens is
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when you when you go normal and when you
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start getting those things to line up
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it's allowing you to supinate earlier
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and harder which are good components of
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a release so if you're teaching more of
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a hold off release there's no real
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reason to then shallow during transition
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and if you're teaching shallowing during
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transition it should be to help support
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what you're trying to do during the
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release hopefully this helps if you like
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the way we break this down go over to
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golf smart academy and sign up for a
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free membership and you can take a look
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at a lot of the concept videos drill
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videos that we do to help explain these
00:04:24.060 --> 00:04:26.230
current trends in golf sciences and how
00:04:26.230 --> 00:04:27.880
can apply them to your game or the game
00:04:27.880 --> 00:04:30.570
of your students
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.190
this golf smart insight we're going to
00:00:02.190 --> 00:00:04.529
discuss the shallowing as it relates to
00:00:04.529 --> 00:00:09.320
supination so I I see frequently that a
00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:12.509
lot of instructors are really big on the
00:00:12.509 --> 00:00:14.309
shallowing of the club during transition
00:00:14.309 --> 00:00:16.740
some of the mechanical research to back
00:00:16.740 --> 00:00:18.330
that up was modeled by Sasha and
00:00:18.330 --> 00:00:20.939
Mackenzie presented with a with Chris
00:00:20.939 --> 00:00:23.119
Como in a video a few years ago so
00:00:23.119 --> 00:00:25.470
everyone says hey you shallow the club
00:00:25.470 --> 00:00:27.510
it helps create this passive torque that
00:00:27.510 --> 00:00:30.859
helps square up the face and all that is
00:00:30.859 --> 00:00:34.890
mechanically correct the the problem is
00:00:34.890 --> 00:00:36.750
I then see some of the same instructors
00:00:36.750 --> 00:00:40.079
advocating a hold off release or
00:00:40.079 --> 00:00:43.829
advocating minimal supination so what
00:00:43.829 --> 00:00:45.690
I'm going to show you is that the whole
00:00:45.690 --> 00:00:49.410
purpose of this shallow move is to allow
00:00:49.410 --> 00:00:52.140
more supination or greater force with
00:00:52.140 --> 00:00:54.690
supination or allow you to supinate
00:00:54.690 --> 00:00:57.510
early so if you're teaching someone not
00:00:57.510 --> 00:00:59.399
to supinate i can actually make the
00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:01.199
argument that it doesn't make sense the
00:01:01.199 --> 00:01:03.510
shallow you should actually just kind of
00:01:03.510 --> 00:01:06.030
stay with everything in plane similar to
00:01:06.030 --> 00:01:08.520
what we would do in the finesse wedge
00:01:08.520 --> 00:01:11.369
swing where we have none of that shallow
00:01:11.369 --> 00:01:13.110
because we're going to square the face
00:01:13.110 --> 00:01:14.729
more with in-plane movement and we're
00:01:14.729 --> 00:01:16.530
not going to use as much of the
00:01:16.530 --> 00:01:21.299
supination during the release so the
00:01:21.299 --> 00:01:24.090
there was a video done a few weeks ago
00:01:24.090 --> 00:01:28.259
by Michael Finney at talking about the
00:01:28.259 --> 00:01:30.119
components of alpha and he was talking
00:01:30.119 --> 00:01:32.670
about the moment of force and that's
00:01:32.670 --> 00:01:35.220
really what we're talking about here and
00:01:35.220 --> 00:01:38.460
what this passive torque is when you
00:01:38.460 --> 00:01:41.189
Supan or when you shallow in transition
00:01:41.189 --> 00:01:44.070
and the the moment of force is going to
00:01:44.070 --> 00:01:46.259
allow us to supinate either harder or
00:01:46.259 --> 00:01:48.689
earlier depending on how you want to
00:01:48.689 --> 00:01:52.500
look at it so but I want to explain that
00:01:52.500 --> 00:01:55.079
moment of force they've they've used a
00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:56.430
couple analogies that I think are pretty
00:01:56.430 --> 00:01:58.170
good but just demonstrating with a golf
00:01:58.170 --> 00:02:02.909
club here right if I'm going to pull the
00:02:02.909 --> 00:02:05.159
handle and apply kind of a linear force
00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:08.459
that way this club will want to line up
00:02:08.459 --> 00:02:10.739
with that force and basically it will
00:02:10.739 --> 00:02:12.750
want to move across just like this
00:02:12.750 --> 00:02:15.330
so if the club if the center of mass is
00:02:15.330 --> 00:02:18.360
way down here then when I pull it it's
00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:21.860
going to want to move up towards that
00:02:21.860 --> 00:02:24.300
lining up basically with the direction
00:02:24.300 --> 00:02:26.460
that I'm pulling if I headed up here and
00:02:26.460 --> 00:02:28.710
I did the same movement yes gravity is
00:02:28.710 --> 00:02:30.660
going to help but if I was you know in a
00:02:30.660 --> 00:02:33.150
in a vacuum and didn't have gravity it
00:02:33.150 --> 00:02:35.190
would still want to move in that
00:02:35.190 --> 00:02:39.930
direction so what happens is when I have
00:02:39.930 --> 00:02:42.570
that shallow movement during transition
00:02:42.570 --> 00:02:45.620
now I can start supinating this forearm
00:02:45.620 --> 00:02:48.780
earlier without having an effect so
00:02:48.780 --> 00:02:50.670
basically as this is shallowing it can
00:02:50.670 --> 00:02:52.020
start supinating supinating pseudo
00:02:52.020 --> 00:02:55.500
mating and now it starts to move in the
00:02:55.500 --> 00:02:58.740
direction of supination if i kept it in
00:02:58.740 --> 00:03:00.950
a straight if i didn't allow that arm
00:03:00.950 --> 00:03:03.780
shallowing then what will happen is the
00:03:03.780 --> 00:03:07.080
second I start supinating the the the
00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:09.450
club is essentially going to move with
00:03:09.450 --> 00:03:13.740
it so I am a advocate of supination
00:03:13.740 --> 00:03:16.440
during the release I've never seen on 3d
00:03:16.440 --> 00:03:18.870
a good release that doesn't involve a
00:03:18.870 --> 00:03:21.510
fair amount of supination so it makes
00:03:21.510 --> 00:03:23.160
sense to me that this arm shallowing
00:03:23.160 --> 00:03:25.650
allows golfers to feel like they start
00:03:25.650 --> 00:03:28.709
that really sooner we teach or I teach
00:03:28.709 --> 00:03:31.530
the different methods of that I think
00:03:31.530 --> 00:03:33.600
are common among kind of the great
00:03:33.600 --> 00:03:35.160
golfers and how they release the club
00:03:35.160 --> 00:03:36.690
how they do the Shaolin movement and how
00:03:36.690 --> 00:03:38.580
they work in transition but in this
00:03:38.580 --> 00:03:41.120
video I just wanted to kind of help you
00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:43.860
with the thought puzzle basically if
00:03:43.860 --> 00:03:46.830
you're advocating this shallow movement
00:03:46.830 --> 00:03:49.200
during transition then what happens is
00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:52.080
when you when you go normal and when you
00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:54.120
start getting those things to line up
00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:56.580
it's allowing you to supinate earlier
00:03:56.580 --> 00:03:59.130
and harder which are good components of
00:03:59.130 --> 00:04:01.230
a release so if you're teaching more of
00:04:01.230 --> 00:04:03.390
a hold off release there's no real
00:04:03.390 --> 00:04:06.120
reason to then shallow during transition
00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:08.340
and if you're teaching shallowing during
00:04:08.340 --> 00:04:10.530
transition it should be to help support
00:04:10.530 --> 00:04:12.209
what you're trying to do during the
00:04:12.209 --> 00:04:13.799
release hopefully this helps if you like
00:04:13.799 --> 00:04:16.290
the way we break this down go over to
00:04:16.290 --> 00:04:18.030
golf smart academy and sign up for a
00:04:18.030 --> 00:04:19.890
free membership and you can take a look
00:04:19.890 --> 00:04:22.049
at a lot of the concept videos drill
00:04:22.049 --> 00:04:24.060
videos that we do to help explain these
00:04:24.060 --> 00:04:26.230
current trends in golf sciences and how
00:04:26.230 --> 00:04:27.880
can apply them to your game or the game
00:04:27.880 --> 00:04:30.570
of your students
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