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Understanding Chicken Wing and Arm Shallowing in Your Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the causes of the chicken wing effect in your swing.
  • Understand how arm shallowing impacts your club path and contact.
  • Learn techniques to improve your arm position for more consistent shots.

In this video, we connect the dots between arm shallowing and the chicken wing effect, helping you identify common mistakes in your swing. You'll learn why these issues occur and how to address them for better ball striking.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

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In this concept video, we're going to connect arm shallowing to the chicken

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wing.

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So there's one of the more common patterns that amateurs hate seeing on the way

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through

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is the chicken wing.

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When the arms are bending coming in kind of more like this, there are a number

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of different

8
00:00:21.560 --> 00:00:26.420
causes it can be from lack of body rotation, it can be one of the ways that you

9
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're squaring

10
00:00:27.400 --> 00:00:33.250
the club face, but what common pattern or one common pattern is that it's a way

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to shallow

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out the club late or pull the low point away from the ground if you're coming

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in from a

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steep arm position.

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So in general, a steeper arm position would be the club working in more of a

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00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:45.440
vertical

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fashion like this.

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Now it could be coming from the inside, it doesn't have to be coming from the

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outside.

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That depends more on my body orientation.

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So I don't want you to just think steep is outside, shallow is inside, it has

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to do more

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with this verticality and narrowness.

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So here I'll be steep, but from the inside and from this position, you'll see

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that in

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order to not slam the club into the ground really hard, I'm going to have to

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pull away

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whether that's from early extension of my body or from bending the arms, I'm

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going to

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have to pull to prevent the club from slamming into the ground.

31
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Here, if I had this in more of a horizontal pattern, so if it was working more

32
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around

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my body like this and I slowly bent down, you'll see that this gets to a point

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where

35
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it's just dimming the ground for a long period of time.

36
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That's part of how we're able to create this consistency or flat spot.

37
00:01:41.620 --> 00:01:49.150
So if the club is working more around my body kind of like so, then just by it

38
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will make

39
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it easier for me to get shaft lean, which is a steepener, hard to create steep

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when you're

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already too steep, and it will allow me to continue rotating my body because

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that's also

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a steepener.

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So what I've seen kind of clinically with my students is that getting the arms

45
00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:07.920
into more

46
00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:13.650
of a shallow position tends to free up a number of things and it tends to

47
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contribute to getting

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more arm extension in the follow through or taking away the chicken wing.

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So if you're looking at your swing and you're struggling with the arms bending

50
00:02:25.720 --> 00:02:26.320
and really

51
00:02:26.320 --> 00:02:31.760
pulling in here in the follow through, then double check that down the line arm

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shallow

53
00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:36.590
checkpoint to make sure that you haven't steepened things too much in

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transition.

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If you have, then it's unlikely you're going to really change that chicken wing

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pattern

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unless you address the arm shallowness at least a little bit.

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If there are some people who are a little bit more vertical and they don't

59
00:02:52.760 --> 00:02:53.480
chicken wing

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00:02:53.480 --> 00:02:59.340
and what they'll do is they'll have more of a well timed kind of reverse thrust

61
00:02:59.340 --> 00:03:00.200
away from

62
00:03:00.200 --> 00:03:05.200
the golf ball with the body and kind of a feel of that throw of the arms.

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00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:10.330
That is one way to solve the puzzle, but in my experience it tends to break

64
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down a little

65
00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.080
bit more, be more timing dependent.

66
00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:19.210
So if you're capable, I would look at some of the arm shallowing drills in

67
00:03:19.210 --> 00:03:19.920
order to get

68
00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:25.360
more comfortable in getting into a delivery position kind of more like this,

69
00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:25.720
then you

70
00:03:25.720 --> 00:03:29.600
won't really have to time so much the release.

71
00:03:29.600 --> 00:03:35.040
You just have to stay in your position as you let the arms extend in order to

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get the club

73
00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:37.680
down toward the ground.

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00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:43.120
So again, if you're struggling with your follow through, always look at the

75
00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:43.680
transition or the

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00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:44.680
downswing.

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If you're struggling with the downswing, you might want to look at the follow

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through.

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00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:52.470
Those two match each other and one common pattern is the steep arms in

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transition will

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00:03:53.600 --> 00:03:56.200
often cause a chicken wing in the follow through.
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Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

Understanding Chicken Wing and Arm Shallowing in Your Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the causes of the chicken wing effect in your swing.
  • Understand how arm shallowing impacts your club path and contact.
  • Learn techniques to improve your arm position for more consistent shots.

In this video, we connect the dots between arm shallowing and the chicken wing effect, helping you identify common mistakes in your swing. You'll learn why these issues occur and how to address them for better ball striking.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.090
In this concept video, we're going to connect arm shallowing to the chicken

2
00:00:09.090 --> 00:00:09.520
wing.

3
00:00:09.520 --> 00:00:14.960
So there's one of the more common patterns that amateurs hate seeing on the way

4
00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:15.480
through

5
00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:17.000
is the chicken wing.

6
00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:21.050
When the arms are bending coming in kind of more like this, there are a number

7
00:00:21.050 --> 00:00:21.560
of different

8
00:00:21.560 --> 00:00:26.420
causes it can be from lack of body rotation, it can be one of the ways that you

9
00:00:26.420 --> 00:00:27.400
're squaring

10
00:00:27.400 --> 00:00:33.250
the club face, but what common pattern or one common pattern is that it's a way

11
00:00:33.250 --> 00:00:33.960
to shallow

12
00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:37.230
out the club late or pull the low point away from the ground if you're coming

13
00:00:37.230 --> 00:00:37.640
in from a

14
00:00:37.640 --> 00:00:39.840
steep arm position.

15
00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:45.280
So in general, a steeper arm position would be the club working in more of a

16
00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:45.440
vertical

17
00:00:45.440 --> 00:00:46.920
fashion like this.

18
00:00:46.920 --> 00:00:52.360
Now it could be coming from the inside, it doesn't have to be coming from the

19
00:00:52.360 --> 00:00:52.800
outside.

20
00:00:52.800 --> 00:00:55.640
That depends more on my body orientation.

21
00:00:55.640 --> 00:00:59.510
So I don't want you to just think steep is outside, shallow is inside, it has

22
00:00:59.510 --> 00:01:00.080
to do more

23
00:01:00.080 --> 00:01:02.320
with this verticality and narrowness.

24
00:01:02.320 --> 00:01:07.820
So here I'll be steep, but from the inside and from this position, you'll see

25
00:01:07.820 --> 00:01:08.420
that in

26
00:01:08.420 --> 00:01:12.920
order to not slam the club into the ground really hard, I'm going to have to

27
00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:13.640
pull away

28
00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:17.580
whether that's from early extension of my body or from bending the arms, I'm

29
00:01:17.580 --> 00:01:18.040
going to

30
00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.120
have to pull to prevent the club from slamming into the ground.

31
00:01:22.120 --> 00:01:27.560
Here, if I had this in more of a horizontal pattern, so if it was working more

32
00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:27.920
around

33
00:01:27.920 --> 00:01:33.050
my body like this and I slowly bent down, you'll see that this gets to a point

34
00:01:33.050 --> 00:01:33.240
where

35
00:01:33.240 --> 00:01:37.120
it's just dimming the ground for a long period of time.

36
00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:41.620
That's part of how we're able to create this consistency or flat spot.

37
00:01:41.620 --> 00:01:49.150
So if the club is working more around my body kind of like so, then just by it

38
00:01:49.150 --> 00:01:49.920
will make

39
00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.500
it easier for me to get shaft lean, which is a steepener, hard to create steep

40
00:01:53.500 --> 00:01:53.920
when you're

41
00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:58.240
already too steep, and it will allow me to continue rotating my body because

42
00:01:58.240 --> 00:01:59.120
that's also

43
00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:00.280
a steepener.

44
00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:07.120
So what I've seen kind of clinically with my students is that getting the arms

45
00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:07.920
into more

46
00:02:07.920 --> 00:02:13.650
of a shallow position tends to free up a number of things and it tends to

47
00:02:13.650 --> 00:02:15.160
contribute to getting

48
00:02:15.160 --> 00:02:20.280
more arm extension in the follow through or taking away the chicken wing.

49
00:02:20.280 --> 00:02:25.720
So if you're looking at your swing and you're struggling with the arms bending

50
00:02:25.720 --> 00:02:26.320
and really

51
00:02:26.320 --> 00:02:31.760
pulling in here in the follow through, then double check that down the line arm

52
00:02:31.760 --> 00:02:32.120
shallow

53
00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:36.590
checkpoint to make sure that you haven't steepened things too much in

54
00:02:36.590 --> 00:02:37.680
transition.

55
00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:43.430
If you have, then it's unlikely you're going to really change that chicken wing

56
00:02:43.430 --> 00:02:44.120
pattern

57
00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:48.900
unless you address the arm shallowness at least a little bit.

58
00:02:48.900 --> 00:02:52.760
If there are some people who are a little bit more vertical and they don't

59
00:02:52.760 --> 00:02:53.480
chicken wing

60
00:02:53.480 --> 00:02:59.340
and what they'll do is they'll have more of a well timed kind of reverse thrust

61
00:02:59.340 --> 00:03:00.200
away from

62
00:03:00.200 --> 00:03:05.200
the golf ball with the body and kind of a feel of that throw of the arms.

63
00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:10.330
That is one way to solve the puzzle, but in my experience it tends to break

64
00:03:10.330 --> 00:03:11.280
down a little

65
00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.080
bit more, be more timing dependent.

66
00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:19.210
So if you're capable, I would look at some of the arm shallowing drills in

67
00:03:19.210 --> 00:03:19.920
order to get

68
00:03:19.920 --> 00:03:25.360
more comfortable in getting into a delivery position kind of more like this,

69
00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:25.720
then you

70
00:03:25.720 --> 00:03:29.600
won't really have to time so much the release.

71
00:03:29.600 --> 00:03:35.040
You just have to stay in your position as you let the arms extend in order to

72
00:03:35.040 --> 00:03:35.680
get the club

73
00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:37.680
down toward the ground.

74
00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:43.120
So again, if you're struggling with your follow through, always look at the

75
00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:43.680
transition or the

76
00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:44.680
downswing.

77
00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:47.870
If you're struggling with the downswing, you might want to look at the follow

78
00:03:47.870 --> 00:03:48.400
through.

79
00:03:48.400 --> 00:03:52.470
Those two match each other and one common pattern is the steep arms in

80
00:03:52.470 --> 00:03:53.600
transition will

81
00:03:53.600 --> 00:03:56.200
often cause a chicken wing in the follow through.
Related topics
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