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Club Face Too Closed Coming Into The Ball

When the club face is closed at shaft parallel in the downswing, it signifies one of a few things. Either the grip is extremely strong (least likely), the arms have straightened too soon, or the body has stopped rotating too soon. Using video can help identify which is the likely culprit in your swing.

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When the club face is closed at shaft parallel in the downswing, it signifies one of a few things. Either the grip is extremely strong (least likely), the arms have straightened too soon, or the body has stopped rotating too soon. Using video can help identify which is the likely culprit in your swing.

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Video Transcript
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This troubleshooting video is coming into the ball with the clubface closed.

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00:00:05.260 --> 00:00:09.960
Golfers tend to fall into some patterns, whether it's a club delivery pattern,

3
00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:12.500
a path pattern, or creating speed.

4
00:00:12.500 --> 00:00:16.600
One of which pattern you can look at is what's going on during the release.

5
00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:22.030
So, what do I look like when I've got the club kind of in just past delivery

6
00:00:22.030 --> 00:00:22.700
position,

7
00:00:22.700 --> 00:00:27.200
and what happens to it until it gets to the end of follow through?

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Some golfers will tend to get into a very closed clubface position,

9
00:00:33.700 --> 00:00:38.200
looking something like this at the end of delivery.

10
00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:41.610
And you've really got a few options. If you're closed like this, the most

11
00:00:41.610 --> 00:00:43.600
common option would be to then

12
00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.330
break down the arms and kind of chicken wing and hold off any of that arm

13
00:00:47.330 --> 00:00:48.000
extension.

14
00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:52.900
So, it looks kind of like this on the way through.

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And you can see it gets into a very narrow position.

16
00:00:56.400 --> 00:00:58.800
It's not extremely playable.

17
00:00:58.800 --> 00:01:03.300
So, I wanted to give you a few different ways that you can look at

18
00:01:03.300 --> 00:01:07.200
how do I manage a clubface that is coming in overly closed?

19
00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.510
Well, there's a couple different ways that the clubface would come overly

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closed.

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One would be if I had an extremely strong grip, and I mean extremely strong,

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00:01:17.100 --> 00:01:22.900
and I still did, and I did a lot of the good body movements,

23
00:01:22.900 --> 00:01:27.100
but you could see that if the grip is extremely closed,

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there's virtually nothing I can do to correct it.

25
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Now, throwing that one out because I rarely see that as the option.

26
00:01:34.900 --> 00:01:38.800
The next would be coordinating some of the body movements,

27
00:01:38.800 --> 00:01:43.000
some of the path movements in order to balance this clubface equation.

28
00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:46.900
So, if you're coming in with the clubface getting really close like this,

29
00:01:46.900 --> 00:01:51.100
what it usually relates to is the arm timing in direction,

30
00:01:51.100 --> 00:01:56.300
having not enough either wipe or body rotation,

31
00:01:56.300 --> 00:02:02.500
whichever way that you kind of frame that body movement during the second phase

32
00:02:02.500 --> 00:02:03.900
of the downswing.

33
00:02:03.900 --> 00:02:08.900
So, if I'm coming in more like this, and then if I added body rotation and

34
00:02:08.900 --> 00:02:09.700
white movement,

35
00:02:09.700 --> 00:02:11.700
but kept the club in the same position,

36
00:02:11.700 --> 00:02:17.300
you can see how just like magic that takes the same hand and wrist positions

37
00:02:17.300 --> 00:02:21.000
and moves it from a closed clubface to now a square clubface.

38
00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.000
And that's the way guys like Dustin Johnson or J.B. Holmes,

39
00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:30.300
who have a stronger grip, but still get the body well open and impact,

40
00:02:30.300 --> 00:02:35.450
will have a club that looks fairly neutral at that shaft hair little checkpoint

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.

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The other option that some golfers do is when they get into this overly closed

43
00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:44.000
clubface,

44
00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:49.700
they'll then early extend and had an excessive amount of kind of raising the

45
00:02:49.700 --> 00:02:50.800
handle like so.

46
00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:57.700
And that pattern can work up to let's say eight handicap or so,

47
00:02:57.700 --> 00:03:02.100
but it's hard to get into the low single digits using that pattern.

48
00:03:02.100 --> 00:03:06.300
So, I would typically go after adding a little bit more wipe,

49
00:03:06.300 --> 00:03:11.450
feeling softer arms in transition, a little bit more of the body centered

50
00:03:11.450 --> 00:03:12.300
movement.

51
00:03:12.300 --> 00:03:18.300
Those typically will have a bigger effect on the overall relationship

52
00:03:18.300 --> 00:03:23.160
and it'll give you better arm extension which hopefully gives us more solid

53
00:03:23.160 --> 00:03:23.800
contact.

54
00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:29.800
The one piece that you have to monitor is if I'm getting the path a little bit

55
00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:31.300
too outside in.

56
00:03:31.300 --> 00:03:36.600
So, some golfers will close the clubface because they're getting outside in.

57
00:03:36.600 --> 00:03:39.000
And if all I did was bring this from the inside,

58
00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.500
you would see that that forearm rotation to move it back to the inside would

59
00:03:43.500 --> 00:03:45.000
reopen the clubface.

60
00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:49.200
So, some golfers will, especially if they're working on the motorcycle

61
00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:52.200
and they have the pattern where when they do the motorcycle,

62
00:03:52.200 --> 00:03:54.300
the club gets out more like this.

63
00:03:54.300 --> 00:03:58.600
That will have a very closed look where if I just did the motorcycle

64
00:03:58.600 --> 00:04:01.800
and had it coming a little bit more from a shallow position,

65
00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:06.270
you can see that that has nowhere near the same amount of clubface getting

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00:04:06.270 --> 00:04:08.000
closed look to it.

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00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.720
You can always use ball flight and if the clubface is getting really close to

68
00:04:11.720 --> 00:04:12.300
the target,

69
00:04:12.300 --> 00:04:16.200
the ball is always going to start left, and if it's really close to the path,

70
00:04:16.200 --> 00:04:20.000
you're going to tend to see a lot of curve to the left.

71
00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:24.000
Figuring out which one you fit into, you got to read the feedback,

72
00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:27.970
and then working on getting a little bit more body centered so that I can get

73
00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:29.100
my body open.

74
00:04:29.100 --> 00:04:31.800
That helps delay that closing of the clubface.

75
00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.600
Getting a little bit more of the wipe helps create some of the shaft lean,

76
00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.350
which helps delay the closing of the clubface and ultimately helps balance that

77
00:04:38.350 --> 00:04:39.000
equation.

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I rarely see golfers getting too close, more commonly I see it getting too open

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00:04:44.200 --> 00:04:44.200
.

80
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But if you struggle with getting it too close, hopefully this helps you kind of

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focus your training

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00:04:49.500 --> 00:04:52.910
into something that will have a measurable change on how you're arranging your

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00:04:52.910 --> 00:04:53.500
clubface.

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Club Face Too Closed Coming Into The Ball

When the club face is closed at shaft parallel in the downswing, it signifies one of a few things. Either the grip is extremely strong (least likely), the arms have straightened too soon, or the body has stopped rotating too soon. Using video can help identify which is the likely culprit in your swing.

Show more

When the club face is closed at shaft parallel in the downswing, it signifies one of a few things. Either the grip is extremely strong (least likely), the arms have straightened too soon, or the body has stopped rotating too soon. Using video can help identify which is the likely culprit in your swing.

Hide
Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:05.260
This troubleshooting video is coming into the ball with the clubface closed.

2
00:00:05.260 --> 00:00:09.960
Golfers tend to fall into some patterns, whether it's a club delivery pattern,

3
00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:12.500
a path pattern, or creating speed.

4
00:00:12.500 --> 00:00:16.600
One of which pattern you can look at is what's going on during the release.

5
00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:22.030
So, what do I look like when I've got the club kind of in just past delivery

6
00:00:22.030 --> 00:00:22.700
position,

7
00:00:22.700 --> 00:00:27.200
and what happens to it until it gets to the end of follow through?

8
00:00:27.200 --> 00:00:33.700
Some golfers will tend to get into a very closed clubface position,

9
00:00:33.700 --> 00:00:38.200
looking something like this at the end of delivery.

10
00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:41.610
And you've really got a few options. If you're closed like this, the most

11
00:00:41.610 --> 00:00:43.600
common option would be to then

12
00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:47.330
break down the arms and kind of chicken wing and hold off any of that arm

13
00:00:47.330 --> 00:00:48.000
extension.

14
00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:52.900
So, it looks kind of like this on the way through.

15
00:00:52.900 --> 00:00:56.400
And you can see it gets into a very narrow position.

16
00:00:56.400 --> 00:00:58.800
It's not extremely playable.

17
00:00:58.800 --> 00:01:03.300
So, I wanted to give you a few different ways that you can look at

18
00:01:03.300 --> 00:01:07.200
how do I manage a clubface that is coming in overly closed?

19
00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:10.510
Well, there's a couple different ways that the clubface would come overly

20
00:01:10.510 --> 00:01:11.000
closed.

21
00:01:11.000 --> 00:01:17.100
One would be if I had an extremely strong grip, and I mean extremely strong,

22
00:01:17.100 --> 00:01:22.900
and I still did, and I did a lot of the good body movements,

23
00:01:22.900 --> 00:01:27.100
but you could see that if the grip is extremely closed,

24
00:01:27.100 --> 00:01:30.200
there's virtually nothing I can do to correct it.

25
00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:34.900
Now, throwing that one out because I rarely see that as the option.

26
00:01:34.900 --> 00:01:38.800
The next would be coordinating some of the body movements,

27
00:01:38.800 --> 00:01:43.000
some of the path movements in order to balance this clubface equation.

28
00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:46.900
So, if you're coming in with the clubface getting really close like this,

29
00:01:46.900 --> 00:01:51.100
what it usually relates to is the arm timing in direction,

30
00:01:51.100 --> 00:01:56.300
having not enough either wipe or body rotation,

31
00:01:56.300 --> 00:02:02.500
whichever way that you kind of frame that body movement during the second phase

32
00:02:02.500 --> 00:02:03.900
of the downswing.

33
00:02:03.900 --> 00:02:08.900
So, if I'm coming in more like this, and then if I added body rotation and

34
00:02:08.900 --> 00:02:09.700
white movement,

35
00:02:09.700 --> 00:02:11.700
but kept the club in the same position,

36
00:02:11.700 --> 00:02:17.300
you can see how just like magic that takes the same hand and wrist positions

37
00:02:17.300 --> 00:02:21.000
and moves it from a closed clubface to now a square clubface.

38
00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:25.000
And that's the way guys like Dustin Johnson or J.B. Holmes,

39
00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:30.300
who have a stronger grip, but still get the body well open and impact,

40
00:02:30.300 --> 00:02:35.450
will have a club that looks fairly neutral at that shaft hair little checkpoint

41
00:02:35.450 --> 00:02:35.800
.

42
00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:43.080
The other option that some golfers do is when they get into this overly closed

43
00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:44.000
clubface,

44
00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:49.700
they'll then early extend and had an excessive amount of kind of raising the

45
00:02:49.700 --> 00:02:50.800
handle like so.

46
00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:57.700
And that pattern can work up to let's say eight handicap or so,

47
00:02:57.700 --> 00:03:02.100
but it's hard to get into the low single digits using that pattern.

48
00:03:02.100 --> 00:03:06.300
So, I would typically go after adding a little bit more wipe,

49
00:03:06.300 --> 00:03:11.450
feeling softer arms in transition, a little bit more of the body centered

50
00:03:11.450 --> 00:03:12.300
movement.

51
00:03:12.300 --> 00:03:18.300
Those typically will have a bigger effect on the overall relationship

52
00:03:18.300 --> 00:03:23.160
and it'll give you better arm extension which hopefully gives us more solid

53
00:03:23.160 --> 00:03:23.800
contact.

54
00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:29.800
The one piece that you have to monitor is if I'm getting the path a little bit

55
00:03:29.800 --> 00:03:31.300
too outside in.

56
00:03:31.300 --> 00:03:36.600
So, some golfers will close the clubface because they're getting outside in.

57
00:03:36.600 --> 00:03:39.000
And if all I did was bring this from the inside,

58
00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:43.500
you would see that that forearm rotation to move it back to the inside would

59
00:03:43.500 --> 00:03:45.000
reopen the clubface.

60
00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:49.200
So, some golfers will, especially if they're working on the motorcycle

61
00:03:49.200 --> 00:03:52.200
and they have the pattern where when they do the motorcycle,

62
00:03:52.200 --> 00:03:54.300
the club gets out more like this.

63
00:03:54.300 --> 00:03:58.600
That will have a very closed look where if I just did the motorcycle

64
00:03:58.600 --> 00:04:01.800
and had it coming a little bit more from a shallow position,

65
00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:06.270
you can see that that has nowhere near the same amount of clubface getting

66
00:04:06.270 --> 00:04:08.000
closed look to it.

67
00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.720
You can always use ball flight and if the clubface is getting really close to

68
00:04:11.720 --> 00:04:12.300
the target,

69
00:04:12.300 --> 00:04:16.200
the ball is always going to start left, and if it's really close to the path,

70
00:04:16.200 --> 00:04:20.000
you're going to tend to see a lot of curve to the left.

71
00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:24.000
Figuring out which one you fit into, you got to read the feedback,

72
00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:27.970
and then working on getting a little bit more body centered so that I can get

73
00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:29.100
my body open.

74
00:04:29.100 --> 00:04:31.800
That helps delay that closing of the clubface.

75
00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.600
Getting a little bit more of the wipe helps create some of the shaft lean,

76
00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.350
which helps delay the closing of the clubface and ultimately helps balance that

77
00:04:38.350 --> 00:04:39.000
equation.

78
00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:44.200
I rarely see golfers getting too close, more commonly I see it getting too open

79
00:04:44.200 --> 00:04:44.200
.

80
00:04:44.200 --> 00:04:47.910
But if you struggle with getting it too close, hopefully this helps you kind of

81
00:04:47.910 --> 00:04:49.500
focus your training

82
00:04:49.500 --> 00:04:52.910
into something that will have a measurable change on how you're arranging your

83
00:04:52.910 --> 00:04:53.500
clubface.

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