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Closed at the top of the swing
If you're struggling with a closed clubface pattern, then determining when the clubface is closed is a critical step to diagnosing a quick solution. If the clubface is closed at the top, then you should check to see if it was closed at shaft parallel in the backswing. If the clubface is not closed at the top of the swing, but you still struggle with a big pull or hook pattern, then you know it was more of a downswing error.
If you're struggling with a closed clubface pattern, then determining when the clubface is closed is a critical step to diagnosing a quick solution. If the clubface is closed at the top, then you should check to see if it was closed at shaft parallel in the backswing. If the clubface is not closed at the top of the swing, but you still struggle with a big pull or hook pattern, then you know it was more of a downswing error.
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This content video is discussing having the clubface too closed at the top of
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the swing.
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So it is possible to have the clubface too closed at the top of the swing, and
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it can
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cause a predictable set of problems down at the bottom.
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Or let's say this, let's say you're looking at your golf swing, you notice that
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you have
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a closed clubface.
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If you're going through the timeline, you want to figure out when.
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So in this video, we're going to discuss how to tell if it's too closed at the
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top
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of the swing, and why.
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So as a rough guide, I'm going to use my left arm like so, and I'm going to
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look at the
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clubface angle compared to that left arm.
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If that clubface angle is pointing more up towards the sky, that would be
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closed.
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If it's more closer to parallel, that would be square.
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If it's pointing more vertically down, that would be open.
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So what we're talking about here would look something like that, where actually
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probably
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something like that, where the clubface is in a closed position up at the top
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of the
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swing.
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Now you'll notice that a number of really elite level ball strikers are doing
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that on
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purpose, because it sets up some good dynamics as far as body rotation, lag,
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things like
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that that are really helpful for the longer clubs.
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So golfer is like Dustin Johnson, Colin Morikawa, tend to get more into this
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really closed
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position to help support their downswing.
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But if you don't have the impact position to match the closed clubface, perhaps
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you
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want to change the clubface instead of changing the body angles.
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That's totally a golfer decision, but let's discuss why you might have an
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overly closed
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clubface.
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So the two main causes are either I'm setting up with it really closed, or I'm
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rotating
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closed in the backswing.
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So if we're looking at the setup, we're going to do a real quick grip test
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where I've got
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the left wrist parallel to the ground.
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A strong grip would look more like this, where the club compared to this down
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the line camera
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angle is somewhere, let's say north of 30 to 40 degrees like this.
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So now if I brought this back, you could see that from a grip perspective, when
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I get
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that clubface pointing at the target, I can see all four knuckles, the line on
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my grip
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is pointing way out here, so to the right of my shoulder, and that right hand
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would be
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more underneath kind of like this.
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This is a very strong grip position.
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This can feel solid in the shoulder, so some golfers actually like that feeling
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, but it
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requires either a big chicken wing to hold off the clubface, which we don't
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like, or
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it requires a lot of body rotation and leaving that club behind, which can be a
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challenge
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for some golfers.
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So if I check that position and my grip isn't too strong, it's in more of a
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neutral or slightly
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strong position, then it means that I'm doing it by twisting the club too much
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in the backswing.
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That can either happen from the left wrist bowing, kind of like this, which a
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fair number
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of especially ladies tend to do.
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It can create a little bit more stability in the bicep for lifting the club,
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but it gets
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us in a tougher position, especially if we're not going to rotate a lot on the
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way down.
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Or I could do it too much, usually in company with getting this right arm into
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a flying
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position, so that this right arm is pointing more almost across and down like
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this.
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So the club looks like it's in a really strong position, and that's mostly
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because of this
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trail wrist and shoulder kind of getting disconnected and getting too much on
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top.
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If I want to see if it's more grip or the setting, then I can always look here
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at the
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takeaway position.
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So if I have a really strong grip, then when I come back, you'll see that
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compared to the
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V on the right hand, the club faces more closed this way.
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If I have more of a neutral grip, then it will just be slightly too close
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compared to
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the V on my hand like this.
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So if it's really strong like this, then that's more from a grip.
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If it's in the same line, but they're both turned out like this, then that's
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more from
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my wrist movements.
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So in other videos, we'll discuss what you have to do with an overly closed
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grip.
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Like I said, it can support some really good downswing mechanics, but the goal
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of this
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video is to just help you identify why it might be too close at the top of the
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swing.
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Okay, so this will be easier for me to demonstrate than the club face to open.
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All I have to do is rotate and stay ahead of it, and you can hit some really
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solid shots.
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Most golfers with that really strong grip because they're rotating to stay
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ahead of
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it will tend to hit more of a fade rather than an actual draw.
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This content video is discussing having the clubface too closed at the top of
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00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:09.140
the swing.
3
00:00:09.140 --> 00:00:13.520
So it is possible to have the clubface too closed at the top of the swing, and
4
00:00:13.520 --> 00:00:13.680
it can
5
00:00:13.680 --> 00:00:17.440
cause a predictable set of problems down at the bottom.
6
00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.510
Or let's say this, let's say you're looking at your golf swing, you notice that
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00:00:20.510 --> 00:00:20.880
you have
8
00:00:20.880 --> 00:00:21.880
a closed clubface.
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00:00:21.880 --> 00:00:24.360
If you're going through the timeline, you want to figure out when.
10
00:00:24.360 --> 00:00:27.510
So in this video, we're going to discuss how to tell if it's too closed at the
11
00:00:27.510 --> 00:00:27.680
top
12
00:00:27.680 --> 00:00:30.120
of the swing, and why.
13
00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.820
So as a rough guide, I'm going to use my left arm like so, and I'm going to
14
00:00:34.820 --> 00:00:35.800
look at the
15
00:00:35.800 --> 00:00:40.440
clubface angle compared to that left arm.
16
00:00:40.440 --> 00:00:44.540
If that clubface angle is pointing more up towards the sky, that would be
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closed.
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If it's more closer to parallel, that would be square.
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If it's pointing more vertically down, that would be open.
20
00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:58.310
So what we're talking about here would look something like that, where actually
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00:00:58.310 --> 00:00:59.040
probably
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something like that, where the clubface is in a closed position up at the top
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of the
24
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swing.
25
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Now you'll notice that a number of really elite level ball strikers are doing
26
00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:09.320
that on
27
00:01:09.320 --> 00:01:15.590
purpose, because it sets up some good dynamics as far as body rotation, lag,
28
00:01:15.590 --> 00:01:16.600
things like
29
00:01:16.600 --> 00:01:19.360
that that are really helpful for the longer clubs.
30
00:01:19.360 --> 00:01:24.050
So golfer is like Dustin Johnson, Colin Morikawa, tend to get more into this
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really closed
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position to help support their downswing.
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But if you don't have the impact position to match the closed clubface, perhaps
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you
35
00:01:33.440 --> 00:01:37.520
want to change the clubface instead of changing the body angles.
36
00:01:37.520 --> 00:01:42.350
That's totally a golfer decision, but let's discuss why you might have an
37
00:01:42.350 --> 00:01:43.400
overly closed
38
00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:44.960
clubface.
39
00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:50.640
So the two main causes are either I'm setting up with it really closed, or I'm
40
00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:51.440
rotating
41
00:01:51.440 --> 00:01:53.720
closed in the backswing.
42
00:01:53.720 --> 00:01:57.460
So if we're looking at the setup, we're going to do a real quick grip test
43
00:01:57.460 --> 00:01:58.120
where I've got
44
00:01:58.120 --> 00:02:00.720
the left wrist parallel to the ground.
45
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A strong grip would look more like this, where the club compared to this down
46
00:02:05.410 --> 00:02:06.400
the line camera
47
00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:12.040
angle is somewhere, let's say north of 30 to 40 degrees like this.
48
00:02:12.040 --> 00:02:16.130
So now if I brought this back, you could see that from a grip perspective, when
49
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I get
50
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that clubface pointing at the target, I can see all four knuckles, the line on
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my grip
52
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is pointing way out here, so to the right of my shoulder, and that right hand
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would be
54
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more underneath kind of like this.
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This is a very strong grip position.
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This can feel solid in the shoulder, so some golfers actually like that feeling
57
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, but it
58
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requires either a big chicken wing to hold off the clubface, which we don't
59
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like, or
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it requires a lot of body rotation and leaving that club behind, which can be a
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challenge
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for some golfers.
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So if I check that position and my grip isn't too strong, it's in more of a
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neutral or slightly
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strong position, then it means that I'm doing it by twisting the club too much
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in the backswing.
67
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That can either happen from the left wrist bowing, kind of like this, which a
68
00:03:08.930 --> 00:03:09.880
fair number
69
00:03:09.880 --> 00:03:12.560
of especially ladies tend to do.
70
00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:17.390
It can create a little bit more stability in the bicep for lifting the club,
71
00:03:17.390 --> 00:03:18.080
but it gets
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us in a tougher position, especially if we're not going to rotate a lot on the
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00:03:22.050 --> 00:03:22.600
way down.
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Or I could do it too much, usually in company with getting this right arm into
75
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a flying
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00:03:28.600 --> 00:03:34.110
position, so that this right arm is pointing more almost across and down like
77
00:03:34.110 --> 00:03:34.760
this.
78
00:03:34.760 --> 00:03:38.310
So the club looks like it's in a really strong position, and that's mostly
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because of this
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trail wrist and shoulder kind of getting disconnected and getting too much on
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top.
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If I want to see if it's more grip or the setting, then I can always look here
83
00:03:51.200 --> 00:03:51.720
at the
84
00:03:51.720 --> 00:03:53.400
takeaway position.
85
00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.960
So if I have a really strong grip, then when I come back, you'll see that
86
00:03:57.960 --> 00:03:58.440
compared to the
87
00:03:58.440 --> 00:04:02.440
V on the right hand, the club faces more closed this way.
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If I have more of a neutral grip, then it will just be slightly too close
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compared to
90
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the V on my hand like this.
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So if it's really strong like this, then that's more from a grip.
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If it's in the same line, but they're both turned out like this, then that's
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more from
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00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.640
my wrist movements.
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00:04:20.640 --> 00:04:25.470
So in other videos, we'll discuss what you have to do with an overly closed
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00:04:25.470 --> 00:04:26.120
grip.
97
00:04:26.120 --> 00:04:29.580
Like I said, it can support some really good downswing mechanics, but the goal
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00:04:29.580 --> 00:04:29.960
of this
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00:04:29.960 --> 00:04:35.260
video is to just help you identify why it might be too close at the top of the
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swing.
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Okay, so this will be easier for me to demonstrate than the club face to open.
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All I have to do is rotate and stay ahead of it, and you can hit some really
103
00:04:48.710 --> 00:04:50.920
solid shots.
104
00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:53.470
Most golfers with that really strong grip because they're rotating to stay
105
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ahead of
106
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it will tend to hit more of a fade rather than an actual draw.
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Closed at the top of the swing
If you're struggling with a closed clubface pattern, then determining when the clubface is closed is a critical step to diagnosing a quick solution. If the clubface is closed at the top, then you should check to see if it was closed at shaft parallel in the backswing. If the clubface is not closed at the top of the swing, but you still struggle with a big pull or hook pattern, then you know it was more of a downswing error.
If you're struggling with a closed clubface pattern, then determining when the clubface is closed is a critical step to diagnosing a quick solution. If the clubface is closed at the top, then you should check to see if it was closed at shaft parallel in the backswing. If the clubface is not closed at the top of the swing, but you still struggle with a big pull or hook pattern, then you know it was more of a downswing error.
Hide
Video Transcript
WEBVTT
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This content video is discussing having the clubface too closed at the top of
2
00:00:07.960 --> 00:00:09.140
the swing.
3
00:00:09.140 --> 00:00:13.520
So it is possible to have the clubface too closed at the top of the swing, and
4
00:00:13.520 --> 00:00:13.680
it can
5
00:00:13.680 --> 00:00:17.440
cause a predictable set of problems down at the bottom.
6
00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.510
Or let's say this, let's say you're looking at your golf swing, you notice that
7
00:00:20.510 --> 00:00:20.880
you have
8
00:00:20.880 --> 00:00:21.880
a closed clubface.
9
00:00:21.880 --> 00:00:24.360
If you're going through the timeline, you want to figure out when.
10
00:00:24.360 --> 00:00:27.510
So in this video, we're going to discuss how to tell if it's too closed at the
11
00:00:27.510 --> 00:00:27.680
top
12
00:00:27.680 --> 00:00:30.120
of the swing, and why.
13
00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:34.820
So as a rough guide, I'm going to use my left arm like so, and I'm going to
14
00:00:34.820 --> 00:00:35.800
look at the
15
00:00:35.800 --> 00:00:40.440
clubface angle compared to that left arm.
16
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If that clubface angle is pointing more up towards the sky, that would be
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closed.
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If it's more closer to parallel, that would be square.
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If it's pointing more vertically down, that would be open.
20
00:00:52.640 --> 00:00:58.310
So what we're talking about here would look something like that, where actually
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00:00:58.310 --> 00:00:59.040
probably
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00:00:59.040 --> 00:01:03.460
something like that, where the clubface is in a closed position up at the top
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00:01:03.460 --> 00:01:03.800
of the
24
00:01:03.800 --> 00:01:04.800
swing.
25
00:01:04.800 --> 00:01:08.840
Now you'll notice that a number of really elite level ball strikers are doing
26
00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:09.320
that on
27
00:01:09.320 --> 00:01:15.590
purpose, because it sets up some good dynamics as far as body rotation, lag,
28
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things like
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that that are really helpful for the longer clubs.
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So golfer is like Dustin Johnson, Colin Morikawa, tend to get more into this
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really closed
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position to help support their downswing.
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But if you don't have the impact position to match the closed clubface, perhaps
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you
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want to change the clubface instead of changing the body angles.
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That's totally a golfer decision, but let's discuss why you might have an
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overly closed
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clubface.
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So the two main causes are either I'm setting up with it really closed, or I'm
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rotating
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closed in the backswing.
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So if we're looking at the setup, we're going to do a real quick grip test
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where I've got
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the left wrist parallel to the ground.
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A strong grip would look more like this, where the club compared to this down
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the line camera
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angle is somewhere, let's say north of 30 to 40 degrees like this.
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So now if I brought this back, you could see that from a grip perspective, when
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I get
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that clubface pointing at the target, I can see all four knuckles, the line on
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my grip
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is pointing way out here, so to the right of my shoulder, and that right hand
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would be
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more underneath kind of like this.
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This is a very strong grip position.
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This can feel solid in the shoulder, so some golfers actually like that feeling
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, but it
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requires either a big chicken wing to hold off the clubface, which we don't
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like, or
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it requires a lot of body rotation and leaving that club behind, which can be a
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challenge
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for some golfers.
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So if I check that position and my grip isn't too strong, it's in more of a
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neutral or slightly
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strong position, then it means that I'm doing it by twisting the club too much
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in the backswing.
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That can either happen from the left wrist bowing, kind of like this, which a
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fair number
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of especially ladies tend to do.
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It can create a little bit more stability in the bicep for lifting the club,
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but it gets
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us in a tougher position, especially if we're not going to rotate a lot on the
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way down.
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Or I could do it too much, usually in company with getting this right arm into
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a flying
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position, so that this right arm is pointing more almost across and down like
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this.
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So the club looks like it's in a really strong position, and that's mostly
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because of this
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trail wrist and shoulder kind of getting disconnected and getting too much on
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top.
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If I want to see if it's more grip or the setting, then I can always look here
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at the
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takeaway position.
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So if I have a really strong grip, then when I come back, you'll see that
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compared to the
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V on the right hand, the club faces more closed this way.
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If I have more of a neutral grip, then it will just be slightly too close
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compared to
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the V on my hand like this.
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So if it's really strong like this, then that's more from a grip.
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If it's in the same line, but they're both turned out like this, then that's
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more from
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my wrist movements.
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So in other videos, we'll discuss what you have to do with an overly closed
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grip.
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Like I said, it can support some really good downswing mechanics, but the goal
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of this
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video is to just help you identify why it might be too close at the top of the
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swing.
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Okay, so this will be easier for me to demonstrate than the club face to open.
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All I have to do is rotate and stay ahead of it, and you can hit some really
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solid shots.
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Most golfers with that really strong grip because they're rotating to stay
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ahead of
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it will tend to hit more of a fade rather than an actual draw.
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This content video is discussing having the clubface too closed at the top of
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the swing.
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So it is possible to have the clubface too closed at the top of the swing, and
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it can
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cause a predictable set of problems down at the bottom.
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Or let's say this, let's say you're looking at your golf swing, you notice that
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you have
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a closed clubface.
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If you're going through the timeline, you want to figure out when.
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So in this video, we're going to discuss how to tell if it's too closed at the
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top
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of the swing, and why.
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So as a rough guide, I'm going to use my left arm like so, and I'm going to
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look at the
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clubface angle compared to that left arm.
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If that clubface angle is pointing more up towards the sky, that would be
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closed.
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If it's more closer to parallel, that would be square.
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If it's pointing more vertically down, that would be open.
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So what we're talking about here would look something like that, where actually
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probably
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something like that, where the clubface is in a closed position up at the top
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of the
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swing.
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Now you'll notice that a number of really elite level ball strikers are doing
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that on
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purpose, because it sets up some good dynamics as far as body rotation, lag,
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things like
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that that are really helpful for the longer clubs.
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So golfer is like Dustin Johnson, Colin Morikawa, tend to get more into this
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really closed
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position to help support their downswing.
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But if you don't have the impact position to match the closed clubface, perhaps
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you
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want to change the clubface instead of changing the body angles.
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That's totally a golfer decision, but let's discuss why you might have an
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overly closed
38
00:01:43.400 --> 00:01:44.960
clubface.
39
00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:50.640
So the two main causes are either I'm setting up with it really closed, or I'm
40
00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:51.440
rotating
41
00:01:51.440 --> 00:01:53.720
closed in the backswing.
42
00:01:53.720 --> 00:01:57.460
So if we're looking at the setup, we're going to do a real quick grip test
43
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where I've got
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the left wrist parallel to the ground.
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A strong grip would look more like this, where the club compared to this down
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00:02:05.410 --> 00:02:06.400
the line camera
47
00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:12.040
angle is somewhere, let's say north of 30 to 40 degrees like this.
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00:02:12.040 --> 00:02:16.130
So now if I brought this back, you could see that from a grip perspective, when
49
00:02:16.130 --> 00:02:16.520
I get
50
00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:22.280
that clubface pointing at the target, I can see all four knuckles, the line on
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00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:22.960
my grip
52
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is pointing way out here, so to the right of my shoulder, and that right hand
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would be
54
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more underneath kind of like this.
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This is a very strong grip position.
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This can feel solid in the shoulder, so some golfers actually like that feeling
57
00:02:37.170 --> 00:02:37.800
, but it
58
00:02:37.800 --> 00:02:44.200
requires either a big chicken wing to hold off the clubface, which we don't
59
00:02:44.200 --> 00:02:45.080
like, or
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00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:50.010
it requires a lot of body rotation and leaving that club behind, which can be a
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00:02:50.010 --> 00:02:50.800
challenge
62
00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:52.640
for some golfers.
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00:02:52.640 --> 00:02:57.330
So if I check that position and my grip isn't too strong, it's in more of a
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00:02:57.330 --> 00:02:58.360
neutral or slightly
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00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:02.090
strong position, then it means that I'm doing it by twisting the club too much
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00:03:02.090 --> 00:03:03.440
in the backswing.
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00:03:03.440 --> 00:03:08.930
That can either happen from the left wrist bowing, kind of like this, which a
68
00:03:08.930 --> 00:03:09.880
fair number
69
00:03:09.880 --> 00:03:12.560
of especially ladies tend to do.
70
00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:17.390
It can create a little bit more stability in the bicep for lifting the club,
71
00:03:17.390 --> 00:03:18.080
but it gets
72
00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:22.050
us in a tougher position, especially if we're not going to rotate a lot on the
73
00:03:22.050 --> 00:03:22.600
way down.
74
00:03:22.600 --> 00:03:27.910
Or I could do it too much, usually in company with getting this right arm into
75
00:03:27.910 --> 00:03:28.600
a flying
76
00:03:28.600 --> 00:03:34.110
position, so that this right arm is pointing more almost across and down like
77
00:03:34.110 --> 00:03:34.760
this.
78
00:03:34.760 --> 00:03:38.310
So the club looks like it's in a really strong position, and that's mostly
79
00:03:38.310 --> 00:03:39.200
because of this
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00:03:39.200 --> 00:03:45.220
trail wrist and shoulder kind of getting disconnected and getting too much on
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00:03:45.220 --> 00:03:45.840
top.
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00:03:45.840 --> 00:03:51.200
If I want to see if it's more grip or the setting, then I can always look here
83
00:03:51.200 --> 00:03:51.720
at the
84
00:03:51.720 --> 00:03:53.400
takeaway position.
85
00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:57.960
So if I have a really strong grip, then when I come back, you'll see that
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00:03:57.960 --> 00:03:58.440
compared to the
87
00:03:58.440 --> 00:04:02.440
V on the right hand, the club faces more closed this way.
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00:04:02.440 --> 00:04:08.370
If I have more of a neutral grip, then it will just be slightly too close
89
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compared to
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the V on my hand like this.
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So if it's really strong like this, then that's more from a grip.
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If it's in the same line, but they're both turned out like this, then that's
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more from
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my wrist movements.
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So in other videos, we'll discuss what you have to do with an overly closed
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grip.
97
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Like I said, it can support some really good downswing mechanics, but the goal
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00:04:29.580 --> 00:04:29.960
of this
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00:04:29.960 --> 00:04:35.260
video is to just help you identify why it might be too close at the top of the
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swing.
101
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Okay, so this will be easier for me to demonstrate than the club face to open.
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All I have to do is rotate and stay ahead of it, and you can hit some really
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00:04:48.710 --> 00:04:50.920
solid shots.
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Most golfers with that really strong grip because they're rotating to stay
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ahead of
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it will tend to hit more of a fade rather than an actual draw.
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