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Should You Preset Shoulder Blade Shallowing at Address?
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Understand the impact of presetting shoulder blades on swing dynamics
- Identify the correct shoulder blade positioning for better impact
- Learn how to avoid common setup mistakes that limit your swing movement
In this video, you'll learn whether presetting your shoulder blade position at address is beneficial for your swing. We'll discuss the implications of this technique on your overall body alignment and swing mechanics.
Video Transcript
WEBVTT
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This concept video is answering the member question, "Can I preset the shoulder
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blade
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shadowing at address?"
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So, the simple answer is yes, I think you can do a little bit, but no, you can
5
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't do
6
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it to the maximum amount or the amount that you would want in the swing, so I
7
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'll walk
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you through two different scenarios or two different times where I think if you
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preset
10
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it at address, it's going to really restrict your swing.
11
00:00:30.500 --> 00:00:34.750
So, during the downswing, if we just kind of recap of where we're trying to get
12
00:00:34.750 --> 00:00:35.120
to, we
13
00:00:35.120 --> 00:00:39.100
want to have the shoulders to be a little bit more in the shoulder closed
14
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position where
15
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.760
that right shoulder blade is back and that left shoulder blade is forward.
16
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If I combine that with some good body rotation, that gets me into a pretty good
17
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body impact
18
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alignment, kind of more like that, where a lot of amateurs struggle with
19
00:00:54.710 --> 00:00:55.400
getting the
20
00:00:55.400 --> 00:01:00.640
club into a steeper position and that is usually from either the arms kind of
21
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pulling down
22
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or most commonly, the shoulder blades spinning this way, so they're actually
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silted that
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way as opposed to that way.
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So, I do think it's helpful to preset a little bit of it.
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I do think it's helpful to have that shoulder blade back a little bit.
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But if we look at the differential that we're going to get in transition, your
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shoulder blades
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are going to be somewhere around 40, 45 degrees closed compared to your pelvis.
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So, if I preset that, this now becomes challenging to get into a good setup
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position.
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That means I would either have to set up like this with my hips wide open or I
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would
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be kind of tilted behind the ball and further away from it kind of like this.
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It's hard to get into this good kind of flexed athletic position with my
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shoulder blades
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in that amount of closed position.
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The other thing would be then, if I was in this position, it'd be really easy
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to kind
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of have a flat shoulder blade and come off the ball or get some backswing early
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extension.
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If I preset this a ton, it's a little bit challenging to ghost into the side
43
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bend or
44
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the left tilt during the backswing that will help keep us a little bit more
45
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centered.
46
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So, that's scenario one as it can kind of mess up the backswing.
47
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Area two is from a power perspective.
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It will mess up your sequencing where your body will move more as a block
49
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rather than
50
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kind of as a whip.
51
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So, as a little exercise, if you were to hold up your arm and we'll take your
52
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trail
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arm and we'll stick it out, you know, not quite as far back as you can, but
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more towards
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the side kind of like this.
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And then if you were to turn your body towards the target, what you will feel
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is you're going
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to feel that your shoulder blade actually slides towards your spine if you keep
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your
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arm in the same position.
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So, if I turn this way so that the back camera can see my shoulder blade, if I
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'm like this
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and I turn my body towards the road over there, you'll see that the shoulder
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blade kind of
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glides along the spine backward.
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So, if I started with it kind of in this locked position, if I started with it
67
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as far back
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as I could go, then when I turn my body forward, my arms are just going to come
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with it.
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So, what that would look like is if I preset this close to the max, which will
71
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be really
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hard to do, but if I get it to pretty much the max there, I don't really have
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any room
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to increase the second I want to start turning my lower body and my core, my
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arms are going
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to come with it.
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Where if I have a little bit of slack, it doesn't have to be a lot.
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So, that's why I say you can preset some of it, but if I have a little bit of
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slack in
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that shoulder blade, then when I turn my lower body, I can kind of lag those
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arms behind
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where the shoulder blade connects and I still am getting kind of the energy or
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the connection
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from my lower body through my core into my arms and get me into this really
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good delivery
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position.
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So, shoulder blade challenging is one of those important pieces that helps with
88
00:04:03.860 --> 00:04:04.360
path,
89
00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.840
but it also helps with sequencing and power.
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So, while you can preset a little bit of it setup, I'd be cautious of doing it
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to your
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maximum.
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It could mess up either your power production or your backswing pivot position.
94
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So, here's a little bit of kind of preset shoulders, which from the down the
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line is
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going to look fairly neutral, where this would be if I was presetting kind of
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to my
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maximum.
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If I was to preset to my maximum kind of like this, I will hit a draw most
100
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likely from
101
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that amount of closed position, but you'll see how flat the shoulder plane was
102
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and you'll
103
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see how it'll be difficult to get the ribcage sway because that's evolved, so
104
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it's hard
105
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to get low point far enough forward.
106
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Now, let's just throttle back off that, instead of all the way, we'll throttle
107
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back off that
108
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maybe 20%.
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For some golfers, I think that that can be plenty, especially if you battle
110
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with a really
111
00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.920
severe over the top shoulder move.
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So, experiment with the different amount and confirm it with down the line
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camera that
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way, you'll be able to buy in that what you're exaggerating isn't really that
115
00:05:14.010 --> 00:05:15.000
exaggerated.
1
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This concept video is answering the member question, "Can I preset the shoulder
2
00:00:09.100 --> 00:00:09.400
blade
3
00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:11.240
shadowing at address?"
4
00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:16.710
So, the simple answer is yes, I think you can do a little bit, but no, you can
5
00:00:16.710 --> 00:00:17.120
't do
6
00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:21.140
it to the maximum amount or the amount that you would want in the swing, so I
7
00:00:21.140 --> 00:00:21.680
'll walk
8
00:00:21.680 --> 00:00:25.980
you through two different scenarios or two different times where I think if you
9
00:00:25.980 --> 00:00:26.440
preset
10
00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:30.500
it at address, it's going to really restrict your swing.
11
00:00:30.500 --> 00:00:34.750
So, during the downswing, if we just kind of recap of where we're trying to get
12
00:00:34.750 --> 00:00:35.120
to, we
13
00:00:35.120 --> 00:00:39.100
want to have the shoulders to be a little bit more in the shoulder closed
14
00:00:39.100 --> 00:00:40.200
position where
15
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.760
that right shoulder blade is back and that left shoulder blade is forward.
16
00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:49.790
If I combine that with some good body rotation, that gets me into a pretty good
17
00:00:49.790 --> 00:00:50.880
body impact
18
00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.710
alignment, kind of more like that, where a lot of amateurs struggle with
19
00:00:54.710 --> 00:00:55.400
getting the
20
00:00:55.400 --> 00:01:00.640
club into a steeper position and that is usually from either the arms kind of
21
00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:02.080
pulling down
22
00:01:02.080 --> 00:01:07.360
or most commonly, the shoulder blades spinning this way, so they're actually
23
00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:08.240
silted that
24
00:01:08.240 --> 00:01:10.640
way as opposed to that way.
25
00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:14.760
So, I do think it's helpful to preset a little bit of it.
26
00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.080
I do think it's helpful to have that shoulder blade back a little bit.
27
00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:23.730
But if we look at the differential that we're going to get in transition, your
28
00:01:23.730 --> 00:01:25.000
shoulder blades
29
00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:29.880
are going to be somewhere around 40, 45 degrees closed compared to your pelvis.
30
00:01:29.880 --> 00:01:35.950
So, if I preset that, this now becomes challenging to get into a good setup
31
00:01:35.950 --> 00:01:37.120
position.
32
00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.360
That means I would either have to set up like this with my hips wide open or I
33
00:01:42.360 --> 00:01:42.760
would
34
00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:48.120
be kind of tilted behind the ball and further away from it kind of like this.
35
00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.680
It's hard to get into this good kind of flexed athletic position with my
36
00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:53.920
shoulder blades
37
00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.640
in that amount of closed position.
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The other thing would be then, if I was in this position, it'd be really easy
39
00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:01.480
to kind
40
00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:07.890
of have a flat shoulder blade and come off the ball or get some backswing early
41
00:02:07.890 --> 00:02:09.200
extension.
42
00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:15.170
If I preset this a ton, it's a little bit challenging to ghost into the side
43
00:02:15.170 --> 00:02:15.840
bend or
44
00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.620
the left tilt during the backswing that will help keep us a little bit more
45
00:02:18.620 --> 00:02:19.240
centered.
46
00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.440
So, that's scenario one as it can kind of mess up the backswing.
47
00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:26.520
Area two is from a power perspective.
48
00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:32.260
It will mess up your sequencing where your body will move more as a block
49
00:02:32.260 --> 00:02:33.360
rather than
50
00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:34.880
kind of as a whip.
51
00:02:34.880 --> 00:02:40.120
So, as a little exercise, if you were to hold up your arm and we'll take your
52
00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:40.420
trail
53
00:02:40.420 --> 00:02:44.410
arm and we'll stick it out, you know, not quite as far back as you can, but
54
00:02:44.410 --> 00:02:45.280
more towards
55
00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:46.840
the side kind of like this.
56
00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:51.240
And then if you were to turn your body towards the target, what you will feel
57
00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:52.000
is you're going
58
00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.300
to feel that your shoulder blade actually slides towards your spine if you keep
59
00:02:55.300 --> 00:02:55.560
your
60
00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:56.560
arm in the same position.
61
00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:00.010
So, if I turn this way so that the back camera can see my shoulder blade, if I
62
00:03:00.010 --> 00:03:00.560
'm like this
63
00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:05.750
and I turn my body towards the road over there, you'll see that the shoulder
64
00:03:05.750 --> 00:03:06.000
blade kind of
65
00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.840
glides along the spine backward.
66
00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.330
So, if I started with it kind of in this locked position, if I started with it
67
00:03:12.330 --> 00:03:13.160
as far back
68
00:03:13.160 --> 00:03:17.320
as I could go, then when I turn my body forward, my arms are just going to come
69
00:03:17.320 --> 00:03:18.000
with it.
70
00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.250
So, what that would look like is if I preset this close to the max, which will
71
00:03:22.250 --> 00:03:22.880
be really
72
00:03:22.880 --> 00:03:27.030
hard to do, but if I get it to pretty much the max there, I don't really have
73
00:03:27.030 --> 00:03:27.680
any room
74
00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:33.360
to increase the second I want to start turning my lower body and my core, my
75
00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:34.560
arms are going
76
00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:35.560
to come with it.
77
00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.560
Where if I have a little bit of slack, it doesn't have to be a lot.
78
00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:41.720
So, that's why I say you can preset some of it, but if I have a little bit of
79
00:03:41.720 --> 00:03:42.200
slack in
80
00:03:42.200 --> 00:03:48.310
that shoulder blade, then when I turn my lower body, I can kind of lag those
81
00:03:48.310 --> 00:03:49.400
arms behind
82
00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:53.870
where the shoulder blade connects and I still am getting kind of the energy or
83
00:03:53.870 --> 00:03:54.880
the connection
84
00:03:54.880 --> 00:03:58.180
from my lower body through my core into my arms and get me into this really
85
00:03:58.180 --> 00:03:58.920
good delivery
86
00:03:58.920 --> 00:03:59.920
position.
87
00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:03.860
So, shoulder blade challenging is one of those important pieces that helps with
88
00:04:03.860 --> 00:04:04.360
path,
89
00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.840
but it also helps with sequencing and power.
90
00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.840
So, while you can preset a little bit of it setup, I'd be cautious of doing it
91
00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:11.320
to your
92
00:04:11.320 --> 00:04:12.320
maximum.
93
00:04:12.320 --> 00:04:17.440
It could mess up either your power production or your backswing pivot position.
94
00:04:17.440 --> 00:04:22.010
So, here's a little bit of kind of preset shoulders, which from the down the
95
00:04:22.010 --> 00:04:22.520
line is
96
00:04:22.520 --> 00:04:27.970
going to look fairly neutral, where this would be if I was presetting kind of
97
00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:28.320
to my
98
00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:29.320
maximum.
99
00:04:29.320 --> 00:04:37.780
If I was to preset to my maximum kind of like this, I will hit a draw most
100
00:04:37.780 --> 00:04:38.360
likely from
101
00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.160
that amount of closed position, but you'll see how flat the shoulder plane was
102
00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:42.580
and you'll
103
00:04:42.580 --> 00:04:46.860
see how it'll be difficult to get the ribcage sway because that's evolved, so
104
00:04:46.860 --> 00:04:47.320
it's hard
105
00:04:47.320 --> 00:04:49.000
to get low point far enough forward.
106
00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.450
Now, let's just throttle back off that, instead of all the way, we'll throttle
107
00:04:53.450 --> 00:04:54.920
back off that
108
00:04:54.920 --> 00:05:00.280
maybe 20%.
109
00:05:00.280 --> 00:05:03.130
For some golfers, I think that that can be plenty, especially if you battle
110
00:05:03.130 --> 00:05:03.800
with a really
111
00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.920
severe over the top shoulder move.
112
00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:09.230
So, experiment with the different amount and confirm it with down the line
113
00:05:09.230 --> 00:05:09.840
camera that
114
00:05:09.840 --> 00:05:14.010
way, you'll be able to buy in that what you're exaggerating isn't really that
115
00:05:14.010 --> 00:05:15.000
exaggerated.
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Should You Preset Shoulder Blade Shallowing at Address?
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Understand the impact of presetting shoulder blades on swing dynamics
- Identify the correct shoulder blade positioning for better impact
- Learn how to avoid common setup mistakes that limit your swing movement
In this video, you'll learn whether presetting your shoulder blade position at address is beneficial for your swing. We'll discuss the implications of this technique on your overall body alignment and swing mechanics.
Video Transcript
WEBVTT
1
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This concept video is answering the member question, "Can I preset the shoulder
2
00:00:09.100 --> 00:00:09.400
blade
3
00:00:09.400 --> 00:00:11.240
shadowing at address?"
4
00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:16.710
So, the simple answer is yes, I think you can do a little bit, but no, you can
5
00:00:16.710 --> 00:00:17.120
't do
6
00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:21.140
it to the maximum amount or the amount that you would want in the swing, so I
7
00:00:21.140 --> 00:00:21.680
'll walk
8
00:00:21.680 --> 00:00:25.980
you through two different scenarios or two different times where I think if you
9
00:00:25.980 --> 00:00:26.440
preset
10
00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:30.500
it at address, it's going to really restrict your swing.
11
00:00:30.500 --> 00:00:34.750
So, during the downswing, if we just kind of recap of where we're trying to get
12
00:00:34.750 --> 00:00:35.120
to, we
13
00:00:35.120 --> 00:00:39.100
want to have the shoulders to be a little bit more in the shoulder closed
14
00:00:39.100 --> 00:00:40.200
position where
15
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.760
that right shoulder blade is back and that left shoulder blade is forward.
16
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If I combine that with some good body rotation, that gets me into a pretty good
17
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body impact
18
00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.710
alignment, kind of more like that, where a lot of amateurs struggle with
19
00:00:54.710 --> 00:00:55.400
getting the
20
00:00:55.400 --> 00:01:00.640
club into a steeper position and that is usually from either the arms kind of
21
00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:02.080
pulling down
22
00:01:02.080 --> 00:01:07.360
or most commonly, the shoulder blades spinning this way, so they're actually
23
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silted that
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way as opposed to that way.
25
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So, I do think it's helpful to preset a little bit of it.
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I do think it's helpful to have that shoulder blade back a little bit.
27
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But if we look at the differential that we're going to get in transition, your
28
00:01:23.730 --> 00:01:25.000
shoulder blades
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are going to be somewhere around 40, 45 degrees closed compared to your pelvis.
30
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So, if I preset that, this now becomes challenging to get into a good setup
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00:01:35.950 --> 00:01:37.120
position.
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That means I would either have to set up like this with my hips wide open or I
33
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would
34
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be kind of tilted behind the ball and further away from it kind of like this.
35
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It's hard to get into this good kind of flexed athletic position with my
36
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shoulder blades
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in that amount of closed position.
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The other thing would be then, if I was in this position, it'd be really easy
39
00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:01.480
to kind
40
00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:07.890
of have a flat shoulder blade and come off the ball or get some backswing early
41
00:02:07.890 --> 00:02:09.200
extension.
42
00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:15.170
If I preset this a ton, it's a little bit challenging to ghost into the side
43
00:02:15.170 --> 00:02:15.840
bend or
44
00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.620
the left tilt during the backswing that will help keep us a little bit more
45
00:02:18.620 --> 00:02:19.240
centered.
46
00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.440
So, that's scenario one as it can kind of mess up the backswing.
47
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Area two is from a power perspective.
48
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It will mess up your sequencing where your body will move more as a block
49
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rather than
50
00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:34.880
kind of as a whip.
51
00:02:34.880 --> 00:02:40.120
So, as a little exercise, if you were to hold up your arm and we'll take your
52
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trail
53
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arm and we'll stick it out, you know, not quite as far back as you can, but
54
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more towards
55
00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:46.840
the side kind of like this.
56
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And then if you were to turn your body towards the target, what you will feel
57
00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:52.000
is you're going
58
00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.300
to feel that your shoulder blade actually slides towards your spine if you keep
59
00:02:55.300 --> 00:02:55.560
your
60
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arm in the same position.
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So, if I turn this way so that the back camera can see my shoulder blade, if I
62
00:03:00.010 --> 00:03:00.560
'm like this
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and I turn my body towards the road over there, you'll see that the shoulder
64
00:03:05.750 --> 00:03:06.000
blade kind of
65
00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.840
glides along the spine backward.
66
00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.330
So, if I started with it kind of in this locked position, if I started with it
67
00:03:12.330 --> 00:03:13.160
as far back
68
00:03:13.160 --> 00:03:17.320
as I could go, then when I turn my body forward, my arms are just going to come
69
00:03:17.320 --> 00:03:18.000
with it.
70
00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.250
So, what that would look like is if I preset this close to the max, which will
71
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be really
72
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hard to do, but if I get it to pretty much the max there, I don't really have
73
00:03:27.030 --> 00:03:27.680
any room
74
00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:33.360
to increase the second I want to start turning my lower body and my core, my
75
00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:34.560
arms are going
76
00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:35.560
to come with it.
77
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Where if I have a little bit of slack, it doesn't have to be a lot.
78
00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:41.720
So, that's why I say you can preset some of it, but if I have a little bit of
79
00:03:41.720 --> 00:03:42.200
slack in
80
00:03:42.200 --> 00:03:48.310
that shoulder blade, then when I turn my lower body, I can kind of lag those
81
00:03:48.310 --> 00:03:49.400
arms behind
82
00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:53.870
where the shoulder blade connects and I still am getting kind of the energy or
83
00:03:53.870 --> 00:03:54.880
the connection
84
00:03:54.880 --> 00:03:58.180
from my lower body through my core into my arms and get me into this really
85
00:03:58.180 --> 00:03:58.920
good delivery
86
00:03:58.920 --> 00:03:59.920
position.
87
00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:03.860
So, shoulder blade challenging is one of those important pieces that helps with
88
00:04:03.860 --> 00:04:04.360
path,
89
00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.840
but it also helps with sequencing and power.
90
00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.840
So, while you can preset a little bit of it setup, I'd be cautious of doing it
91
00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:11.320
to your
92
00:04:11.320 --> 00:04:12.320
maximum.
93
00:04:12.320 --> 00:04:17.440
It could mess up either your power production or your backswing pivot position.
94
00:04:17.440 --> 00:04:22.010
So, here's a little bit of kind of preset shoulders, which from the down the
95
00:04:22.010 --> 00:04:22.520
line is
96
00:04:22.520 --> 00:04:27.970
going to look fairly neutral, where this would be if I was presetting kind of
97
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to my
98
00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:29.320
maximum.
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00:04:29.320 --> 00:04:37.780
If I was to preset to my maximum kind of like this, I will hit a draw most
100
00:04:37.780 --> 00:04:38.360
likely from
101
00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.160
that amount of closed position, but you'll see how flat the shoulder plane was
102
00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:42.580
and you'll
103
00:04:42.580 --> 00:04:46.860
see how it'll be difficult to get the ribcage sway because that's evolved, so
104
00:04:46.860 --> 00:04:47.320
it's hard
105
00:04:47.320 --> 00:04:49.000
to get low point far enough forward.
106
00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.450
Now, let's just throttle back off that, instead of all the way, we'll throttle
107
00:04:53.450 --> 00:04:54.920
back off that
108
00:04:54.920 --> 00:05:00.280
maybe 20%.
109
00:05:00.280 --> 00:05:03.130
For some golfers, I think that that can be plenty, especially if you battle
110
00:05:03.130 --> 00:05:03.800
with a really
111
00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.920
severe over the top shoulder move.
112
00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:09.230
So, experiment with the different amount and confirm it with down the line
113
00:05:09.230 --> 00:05:09.840
camera that
114
00:05:09.840 --> 00:05:14.010
way, you'll be able to buy in that what you're exaggerating isn't really that
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exaggerated.
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This concept video is answering the member question, "Can I preset the shoulder
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blade
3
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shadowing at address?"
4
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So, the simple answer is yes, I think you can do a little bit, but no, you can
5
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't do
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it to the maximum amount or the amount that you would want in the swing, so I
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'll walk
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you through two different scenarios or two different times where I think if you
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preset
10
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it at address, it's going to really restrict your swing.
11
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So, during the downswing, if we just kind of recap of where we're trying to get
12
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to, we
13
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want to have the shoulders to be a little bit more in the shoulder closed
14
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position where
15
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.760
that right shoulder blade is back and that left shoulder blade is forward.
16
00:00:43.760 --> 00:00:49.790
If I combine that with some good body rotation, that gets me into a pretty good
17
00:00:49.790 --> 00:00:50.880
body impact
18
00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.710
alignment, kind of more like that, where a lot of amateurs struggle with
19
00:00:54.710 --> 00:00:55.400
getting the
20
00:00:55.400 --> 00:01:00.640
club into a steeper position and that is usually from either the arms kind of
21
00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:02.080
pulling down
22
00:01:02.080 --> 00:01:07.360
or most commonly, the shoulder blades spinning this way, so they're actually
23
00:01:07.360 --> 00:01:08.240
silted that
24
00:01:08.240 --> 00:01:10.640
way as opposed to that way.
25
00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:14.760
So, I do think it's helpful to preset a little bit of it.
26
00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.080
I do think it's helpful to have that shoulder blade back a little bit.
27
00:01:18.080 --> 00:01:23.730
But if we look at the differential that we're going to get in transition, your
28
00:01:23.730 --> 00:01:25.000
shoulder blades
29
00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:29.880
are going to be somewhere around 40, 45 degrees closed compared to your pelvis.
30
00:01:29.880 --> 00:01:35.950
So, if I preset that, this now becomes challenging to get into a good setup
31
00:01:35.950 --> 00:01:37.120
position.
32
00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:42.360
That means I would either have to set up like this with my hips wide open or I
33
00:01:42.360 --> 00:01:42.760
would
34
00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:48.120
be kind of tilted behind the ball and further away from it kind of like this.
35
00:01:48.120 --> 00:01:52.680
It's hard to get into this good kind of flexed athletic position with my
36
00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:53.920
shoulder blades
37
00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:57.640
in that amount of closed position.
38
00:01:57.640 --> 00:02:01.000
The other thing would be then, if I was in this position, it'd be really easy
39
00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:01.480
to kind
40
00:02:01.480 --> 00:02:07.890
of have a flat shoulder blade and come off the ball or get some backswing early
41
00:02:07.890 --> 00:02:09.200
extension.
42
00:02:09.200 --> 00:02:15.170
If I preset this a ton, it's a little bit challenging to ghost into the side
43
00:02:15.170 --> 00:02:15.840
bend or
44
00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.620
the left tilt during the backswing that will help keep us a little bit more
45
00:02:18.620 --> 00:02:19.240
centered.
46
00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.440
So, that's scenario one as it can kind of mess up the backswing.
47
00:02:23.440 --> 00:02:26.520
Area two is from a power perspective.
48
00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:32.260
It will mess up your sequencing where your body will move more as a block
49
00:02:32.260 --> 00:02:33.360
rather than
50
00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:34.880
kind of as a whip.
51
00:02:34.880 --> 00:02:40.120
So, as a little exercise, if you were to hold up your arm and we'll take your
52
00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:40.420
trail
53
00:02:40.420 --> 00:02:44.410
arm and we'll stick it out, you know, not quite as far back as you can, but
54
00:02:44.410 --> 00:02:45.280
more towards
55
00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:46.840
the side kind of like this.
56
00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:51.240
And then if you were to turn your body towards the target, what you will feel
57
00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:52.000
is you're going
58
00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:55.300
to feel that your shoulder blade actually slides towards your spine if you keep
59
00:02:55.300 --> 00:02:55.560
your
60
00:02:55.560 --> 00:02:56.560
arm in the same position.
61
00:02:56.560 --> 00:03:00.010
So, if I turn this way so that the back camera can see my shoulder blade, if I
62
00:03:00.010 --> 00:03:00.560
'm like this
63
00:03:00.560 --> 00:03:05.750
and I turn my body towards the road over there, you'll see that the shoulder
64
00:03:05.750 --> 00:03:06.000
blade kind of
65
00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:07.840
glides along the spine backward.
66
00:03:07.840 --> 00:03:12.330
So, if I started with it kind of in this locked position, if I started with it
67
00:03:12.330 --> 00:03:13.160
as far back
68
00:03:13.160 --> 00:03:17.320
as I could go, then when I turn my body forward, my arms are just going to come
69
00:03:17.320 --> 00:03:18.000
with it.
70
00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:22.250
So, what that would look like is if I preset this close to the max, which will
71
00:03:22.250 --> 00:03:22.880
be really
72
00:03:22.880 --> 00:03:27.030
hard to do, but if I get it to pretty much the max there, I don't really have
73
00:03:27.030 --> 00:03:27.680
any room
74
00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:33.360
to increase the second I want to start turning my lower body and my core, my
75
00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:34.560
arms are going
76
00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:35.560
to come with it.
77
00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:38.560
Where if I have a little bit of slack, it doesn't have to be a lot.
78
00:03:38.560 --> 00:03:41.720
So, that's why I say you can preset some of it, but if I have a little bit of
79
00:03:41.720 --> 00:03:42.200
slack in
80
00:03:42.200 --> 00:03:48.310
that shoulder blade, then when I turn my lower body, I can kind of lag those
81
00:03:48.310 --> 00:03:49.400
arms behind
82
00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:53.870
where the shoulder blade connects and I still am getting kind of the energy or
83
00:03:53.870 --> 00:03:54.880
the connection
84
00:03:54.880 --> 00:03:58.180
from my lower body through my core into my arms and get me into this really
85
00:03:58.180 --> 00:03:58.920
good delivery
86
00:03:58.920 --> 00:03:59.920
position.
87
00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:03.860
So, shoulder blade challenging is one of those important pieces that helps with
88
00:04:03.860 --> 00:04:04.360
path,
89
00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.840
but it also helps with sequencing and power.
90
00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:10.840
So, while you can preset a little bit of it setup, I'd be cautious of doing it
91
00:04:10.840 --> 00:04:11.320
to your
92
00:04:11.320 --> 00:04:12.320
maximum.
93
00:04:12.320 --> 00:04:17.440
It could mess up either your power production or your backswing pivot position.
94
00:04:17.440 --> 00:04:22.010
So, here's a little bit of kind of preset shoulders, which from the down the
95
00:04:22.010 --> 00:04:22.520
line is
96
00:04:22.520 --> 00:04:27.970
going to look fairly neutral, where this would be if I was presetting kind of
97
00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:28.320
to my
98
00:04:28.320 --> 00:04:29.320
maximum.
99
00:04:29.320 --> 00:04:37.780
If I was to preset to my maximum kind of like this, I will hit a draw most
100
00:04:37.780 --> 00:04:38.360
likely from
101
00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:42.160
that amount of closed position, but you'll see how flat the shoulder plane was
102
00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:42.580
and you'll
103
00:04:42.580 --> 00:04:46.860
see how it'll be difficult to get the ribcage sway because that's evolved, so
104
00:04:46.860 --> 00:04:47.320
it's hard
105
00:04:47.320 --> 00:04:49.000
to get low point far enough forward.
106
00:04:49.000 --> 00:04:53.450
Now, let's just throttle back off that, instead of all the way, we'll throttle
107
00:04:53.450 --> 00:04:54.920
back off that
108
00:04:54.920 --> 00:05:00.280
maybe 20%.
109
00:05:00.280 --> 00:05:03.130
For some golfers, I think that that can be plenty, especially if you battle
110
00:05:03.130 --> 00:05:03.800
with a really
111
00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:05.920
severe over the top shoulder move.
112
00:05:05.920 --> 00:05:09.230
So, experiment with the different amount and confirm it with down the line
113
00:05:09.230 --> 00:05:09.840
camera that
114
00:05:09.840 --> 00:05:14.010
way, you'll be able to buy in that what you're exaggerating isn't really that
115
00:05:14.010 --> 00:05:15.000
exaggerated.
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