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Why Early Shoulder Spin Hurts Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify when your shoulder spin is occurring too early in your swing.
  • Understand how proper shoulder timing can enhance your swing path.
  • Learn drills to improve your shoulder movement for better consistency.

Learn how spinning your shoulders too early can lead to common swing faults and affect your contact with the ball. This video explains the timing and mechanics behind shoulder movement in your golf swing.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.900
This concept video is breaking down, spinning the shoulders. So spinning the

2
00:00:09.900 --> 00:00:11.140
shoulders is

3
00:00:11.140 --> 00:00:16.340
a term that we're going to use for the shoulders going from the right side of

4
00:00:16.340 --> 00:00:17.060
our body to the

5
00:00:17.060 --> 00:00:22.270
left side of our body, kind of going more like this. So right shoulder back,

6
00:00:22.270 --> 00:00:22.860
left shoulder

7
00:00:22.860 --> 00:00:28.240
forward to left shoulder back, right shoulder forward. And in many actions that

8
00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:28.720
would be

9
00:00:28.720 --> 00:00:34.660
a kind of a big source of creating hand speed. It would be a big power source

10
00:00:34.660 --> 00:00:35.600
for creating

11
00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:43.180
a whip of that trail side. However, my experience for the golf swing, the later

12
00:00:43.180 --> 00:00:44.040
you can get that

13
00:00:44.040 --> 00:00:48.320
to happen, probably within reason, you probably do it too late. But in general,

14
00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:49.060
the timing

15
00:00:49.060 --> 00:00:52.370
of that, the later that you can get it to happen, typically the better your

16
00:00:52.370 --> 00:00:52.940
golf swing

17
00:00:52.940 --> 00:00:58.920
is all else being equal. Many amateurs struggle with the shoulder spin

18
00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.020
happening either early

19
00:01:01.020 --> 00:01:05.560
in transition or dominating the release. So I wanted to talk through how that

20
00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:06.480
shows up

21
00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:11.690
and what you can watch out for. There's a bunch of drills that will work on the

22
00:01:11.690 --> 00:01:12.420
complementary

23
00:01:12.420 --> 00:01:17.570
pieces, but sometimes that shoulder spin is kind of the underlying mechanism

24
00:01:17.570 --> 00:01:18.040
that makes

25
00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.440
it really hard to break certain patterns. In transition, if we get up to the

26
00:01:22.440 --> 00:01:22.880
top of the

27
00:01:22.880 --> 00:01:27.140
swing and at the top of the swing, the shoulder, the right shoulder is back and

28
00:01:27.140 --> 00:01:28.240
the left shoulder

29
00:01:28.240 --> 00:01:32.030
is a little bit forward, kind of more like this. If I immediately start

30
00:01:32.030 --> 00:01:32.800
spinning the

31
00:01:32.800 --> 00:01:38.750
shoulders, then that's one of the classic steepening over the top type

32
00:01:38.750 --> 00:01:40.040
movements. From

33
00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.190
the down the line camera angle, if you do this, you'll tend to see the hands

34
00:01:43.190 --> 00:01:43.600
travel

35
00:01:43.600 --> 00:01:48.800
well outward towards the golf ball. And the shaft will tend to get vertical and

36
00:01:48.800 --> 00:01:48.960
out away

37
00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:54.940
from you, often accompanied with some early extension. Now, the sneakier

38
00:01:54.940 --> 00:01:55.720
version is if

39
00:01:55.720 --> 00:02:00.910
we look at delivery position, if I do a little bit of this movement, if I do a

40
00:02:00.910 --> 00:02:01.240
little bit

41
00:02:01.240 --> 00:02:06.980
of that, then I would typically be steep unless I added an extra shallowing. So

42
00:02:06.980 --> 00:02:07.800
a lot of players

43
00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:13.160
who have more of this excessive tilt of the upper body back, or the arms

44
00:02:13.160 --> 00:02:14.160
getting more

45
00:02:14.160 --> 00:02:19.370
behind the body. So if you're tending to see more of this gap and throw there,

46
00:02:19.370 --> 00:02:20.120
this shoulder

47
00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:26.710
spinning might be one of the key components or the key kind of culprits. In

48
00:02:26.710 --> 00:02:27.800
order to get

49
00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:33.690
the arms to be in front of your body here, you'll see if all I did was spin my

50
00:02:33.690 --> 00:02:34.800
shoulders,

51
00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.870
it becomes a lot harder to get that elbow in front compared to if I had my

52
00:02:38.870 --> 00:02:39.600
shoulders

53
00:02:39.600 --> 00:02:43.500
pointing more back behind the golf ball. So this is where some of the ideas of

54
00:02:43.500 --> 00:02:43.820
kind of

55
00:02:43.820 --> 00:02:47.780
developing that scapular feel, whether you feel your chest or your shoulders

56
00:02:47.780 --> 00:02:48.200
back, that

57
00:02:48.200 --> 00:02:52.410
allows for the arms to get into a better delivery position. But it requires

58
00:02:52.410 --> 00:02:52.840
that you

59
00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:59.660
get more of your speed from kind of the below your chest or below kind of like

60
00:02:59.660 --> 00:03:00.840
T six middle

61
00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.040
of your thoracic spine, getting more of the motion there, and some of the

62
00:03:06.040 --> 00:03:06.520
motion in the

63
00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:12.260
arms, but not so much in the shoulders getting that shoulder spin. Some people

64
00:03:12.260 --> 00:03:12.520
do a good

65
00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:17.730
job of getting into a more or less good delivery position, but then they spin

66
00:03:17.730 --> 00:03:18.240
the shoulders

67
00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:22.910
as a dominant mechanism during their release or through the ball. So they'll

68
00:03:22.910 --> 00:03:23.440
get into a

69
00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:27.800
position kind of like this, and then through the ball, we'll see those

70
00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:28.960
shoulders tend to

71
00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:34.160
spin that shoulder spin through the ball is often accompanied with more of an

72
00:03:34.160 --> 00:03:34.240
kind of

73
00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.640
a throw or an early release of that right arm, that right wrist or that right

74
00:03:38.640 --> 00:03:39.880
shoulder,

75
00:03:39.880 --> 00:03:44.020
or it'll accompany more that left wrist pulling getting into more of a chicken

76
00:03:44.020 --> 00:03:45.280
wing pattern

77
00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.970
kind of like this. And almost always it's accompanied with staying in the flex

78
00:03:49.970 --> 00:03:51.480
ion longer.

79
00:03:51.480 --> 00:03:56.690
So that can cause on the way through the head to drift forward, or the body to

80
00:03:56.690 --> 00:03:57.120
stay more

81
00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:02.690
down and have more of kind of a disconnected look, sort of like that, where if

82
00:04:02.690 --> 00:04:03.200
I was to

83
00:04:03.200 --> 00:04:09.080
go up and prevent the shoulders from spinning there during transition, and then

84
00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:09.600
prevent

85
00:04:09.600 --> 00:04:16.500
the shoulders from spinning there during the release, you could see that that

86
00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:17.080
will create

87
00:04:17.080 --> 00:04:23.790
some of these looks of my body and my arms working more kind of in sync, where

88
00:04:23.790 --> 00:04:24.320
when I

89
00:04:24.320 --> 00:04:31.890
do this shoulder driven motion either early or late, it tends to have more of a

90
00:04:31.890 --> 00:04:32.520
kind of

91
00:04:32.520 --> 00:04:37.730
a disconnected look, and often golfers will complain that the swing feels quick

92
00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:38.280
when the

93
00:04:38.280 --> 00:04:42.480
shoulders have spun too soon. So this can be one of the engines and one of the

94
00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:42.760
glues

95
00:04:42.760 --> 00:04:47.460
that drives a bunch of the looks that we hate when we see our swings on video,

96
00:04:47.460 --> 00:04:48.080
and a bunch

97
00:04:48.080 --> 00:04:53.440
of the miss patterns that create a lot of inconsistency. So I highly recommend

98
00:04:53.440 --> 00:04:53.920
that you

99
00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:58.580
investigate a way to feel the shoulders staying a little bit more closed. It

100
00:04:58.580 --> 00:04:59.320
may be the missing

101
00:04:59.320 --> 00:05:04.520
link for either your transition or your release issues. So real quick, kind of

102
00:05:04.520 --> 00:05:04.540
shoulders

103
00:05:04.540 --> 00:05:11.470
are back saying to the target while I get into a good delivery position, and

104
00:05:11.470 --> 00:05:12.160
then more

105
00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:16.560
or less feeling like the whip of the shoulders is happening late through the

106
00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:17.520
ball that gives

107
00:05:17.520 --> 00:05:22.700
the feeling of swinging through the ball, more width on the follow through,

108
00:05:22.700 --> 00:05:23.080
lots of good

109
00:05:23.080 --> 00:05:28.960
things that help with consistency of ground contact and consistency of waffle.

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Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

Why Early Shoulder Spin Hurts Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify when your shoulder spin is occurring too early in your swing.
  • Understand how proper shoulder timing can enhance your swing path.
  • Learn drills to improve your shoulder movement for better consistency.

Learn how spinning your shoulders too early can lead to common swing faults and affect your contact with the ball. This video explains the timing and mechanics behind shoulder movement in your golf swing.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.900
This concept video is breaking down, spinning the shoulders. So spinning the

2
00:00:09.900 --> 00:00:11.140
shoulders is

3
00:00:11.140 --> 00:00:16.340
a term that we're going to use for the shoulders going from the right side of

4
00:00:16.340 --> 00:00:17.060
our body to the

5
00:00:17.060 --> 00:00:22.270
left side of our body, kind of going more like this. So right shoulder back,

6
00:00:22.270 --> 00:00:22.860
left shoulder

7
00:00:22.860 --> 00:00:28.240
forward to left shoulder back, right shoulder forward. And in many actions that

8
00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:28.720
would be

9
00:00:28.720 --> 00:00:34.660
a kind of a big source of creating hand speed. It would be a big power source

10
00:00:34.660 --> 00:00:35.600
for creating

11
00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:43.180
a whip of that trail side. However, my experience for the golf swing, the later

12
00:00:43.180 --> 00:00:44.040
you can get that

13
00:00:44.040 --> 00:00:48.320
to happen, probably within reason, you probably do it too late. But in general,

14
00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:49.060
the timing

15
00:00:49.060 --> 00:00:52.370
of that, the later that you can get it to happen, typically the better your

16
00:00:52.370 --> 00:00:52.940
golf swing

17
00:00:52.940 --> 00:00:58.920
is all else being equal. Many amateurs struggle with the shoulder spin

18
00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:01.020
happening either early

19
00:01:01.020 --> 00:01:05.560
in transition or dominating the release. So I wanted to talk through how that

20
00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:06.480
shows up

21
00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:11.690
and what you can watch out for. There's a bunch of drills that will work on the

22
00:01:11.690 --> 00:01:12.420
complementary

23
00:01:12.420 --> 00:01:17.570
pieces, but sometimes that shoulder spin is kind of the underlying mechanism

24
00:01:17.570 --> 00:01:18.040
that makes

25
00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:22.440
it really hard to break certain patterns. In transition, if we get up to the

26
00:01:22.440 --> 00:01:22.880
top of the

27
00:01:22.880 --> 00:01:27.140
swing and at the top of the swing, the shoulder, the right shoulder is back and

28
00:01:27.140 --> 00:01:28.240
the left shoulder

29
00:01:28.240 --> 00:01:32.030
is a little bit forward, kind of more like this. If I immediately start

30
00:01:32.030 --> 00:01:32.800
spinning the

31
00:01:32.800 --> 00:01:38.750
shoulders, then that's one of the classic steepening over the top type

32
00:01:38.750 --> 00:01:40.040
movements. From

33
00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.190
the down the line camera angle, if you do this, you'll tend to see the hands

34
00:01:43.190 --> 00:01:43.600
travel

35
00:01:43.600 --> 00:01:48.800
well outward towards the golf ball. And the shaft will tend to get vertical and

36
00:01:48.800 --> 00:01:48.960
out away

37
00:01:48.960 --> 00:01:54.940
from you, often accompanied with some early extension. Now, the sneakier

38
00:01:54.940 --> 00:01:55.720
version is if

39
00:01:55.720 --> 00:02:00.910
we look at delivery position, if I do a little bit of this movement, if I do a

40
00:02:00.910 --> 00:02:01.240
little bit

41
00:02:01.240 --> 00:02:06.980
of that, then I would typically be steep unless I added an extra shallowing. So

42
00:02:06.980 --> 00:02:07.800
a lot of players

43
00:02:07.800 --> 00:02:13.160
who have more of this excessive tilt of the upper body back, or the arms

44
00:02:13.160 --> 00:02:14.160
getting more

45
00:02:14.160 --> 00:02:19.370
behind the body. So if you're tending to see more of this gap and throw there,

46
00:02:19.370 --> 00:02:20.120
this shoulder

47
00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:26.710
spinning might be one of the key components or the key kind of culprits. In

48
00:02:26.710 --> 00:02:27.800
order to get

49
00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:33.690
the arms to be in front of your body here, you'll see if all I did was spin my

50
00:02:33.690 --> 00:02:34.800
shoulders,

51
00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:38.870
it becomes a lot harder to get that elbow in front compared to if I had my

52
00:02:38.870 --> 00:02:39.600
shoulders

53
00:02:39.600 --> 00:02:43.500
pointing more back behind the golf ball. So this is where some of the ideas of

54
00:02:43.500 --> 00:02:43.820
kind of

55
00:02:43.820 --> 00:02:47.780
developing that scapular feel, whether you feel your chest or your shoulders

56
00:02:47.780 --> 00:02:48.200
back, that

57
00:02:48.200 --> 00:02:52.410
allows for the arms to get into a better delivery position. But it requires

58
00:02:52.410 --> 00:02:52.840
that you

59
00:02:52.840 --> 00:02:59.660
get more of your speed from kind of the below your chest or below kind of like

60
00:02:59.660 --> 00:03:00.840
T six middle

61
00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:06.040
of your thoracic spine, getting more of the motion there, and some of the

62
00:03:06.040 --> 00:03:06.520
motion in the

63
00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:12.260
arms, but not so much in the shoulders getting that shoulder spin. Some people

64
00:03:12.260 --> 00:03:12.520
do a good

65
00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:17.730
job of getting into a more or less good delivery position, but then they spin

66
00:03:17.730 --> 00:03:18.240
the shoulders

67
00:03:18.240 --> 00:03:22.910
as a dominant mechanism during their release or through the ball. So they'll

68
00:03:22.910 --> 00:03:23.440
get into a

69
00:03:23.440 --> 00:03:27.800
position kind of like this, and then through the ball, we'll see those

70
00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:28.960
shoulders tend to

71
00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:34.160
spin that shoulder spin through the ball is often accompanied with more of an

72
00:03:34.160 --> 00:03:34.240
kind of

73
00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:38.640
a throw or an early release of that right arm, that right wrist or that right

74
00:03:38.640 --> 00:03:39.880
shoulder,

75
00:03:39.880 --> 00:03:44.020
or it'll accompany more that left wrist pulling getting into more of a chicken

76
00:03:44.020 --> 00:03:45.280
wing pattern

77
00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:49.970
kind of like this. And almost always it's accompanied with staying in the flex

78
00:03:49.970 --> 00:03:51.480
ion longer.

79
00:03:51.480 --> 00:03:56.690
So that can cause on the way through the head to drift forward, or the body to

80
00:03:56.690 --> 00:03:57.120
stay more

81
00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:02.690
down and have more of kind of a disconnected look, sort of like that, where if

82
00:04:02.690 --> 00:04:03.200
I was to

83
00:04:03.200 --> 00:04:09.080
go up and prevent the shoulders from spinning there during transition, and then

84
00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:09.600
prevent

85
00:04:09.600 --> 00:04:16.500
the shoulders from spinning there during the release, you could see that that

86
00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:17.080
will create

87
00:04:17.080 --> 00:04:23.790
some of these looks of my body and my arms working more kind of in sync, where

88
00:04:23.790 --> 00:04:24.320
when I

89
00:04:24.320 --> 00:04:31.890
do this shoulder driven motion either early or late, it tends to have more of a

90
00:04:31.890 --> 00:04:32.520
kind of

91
00:04:32.520 --> 00:04:37.730
a disconnected look, and often golfers will complain that the swing feels quick

92
00:04:37.730 --> 00:04:38.280
when the

93
00:04:38.280 --> 00:04:42.480
shoulders have spun too soon. So this can be one of the engines and one of the

94
00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:42.760
glues

95
00:04:42.760 --> 00:04:47.460
that drives a bunch of the looks that we hate when we see our swings on video,

96
00:04:47.460 --> 00:04:48.080
and a bunch

97
00:04:48.080 --> 00:04:53.440
of the miss patterns that create a lot of inconsistency. So I highly recommend

98
00:04:53.440 --> 00:04:53.920
that you

99
00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:58.580
investigate a way to feel the shoulders staying a little bit more closed. It

100
00:04:58.580 --> 00:04:59.320
may be the missing

101
00:04:59.320 --> 00:05:04.520
link for either your transition or your release issues. So real quick, kind of

102
00:05:04.520 --> 00:05:04.540
shoulders

103
00:05:04.540 --> 00:05:11.470
are back saying to the target while I get into a good delivery position, and

104
00:05:11.470 --> 00:05:12.160
then more

105
00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:16.560
or less feeling like the whip of the shoulders is happening late through the

106
00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:17.520
ball that gives

107
00:05:17.520 --> 00:05:22.700
the feeling of swinging through the ball, more width on the follow through,

108
00:05:22.700 --> 00:05:23.080
lots of good

109
00:05:23.080 --> 00:05:28.960
things that help with consistency of ground contact and consistency of waffle.

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