Back Side vs Front Side Rotation
Delve into the nuances of backside versus front-side rotation with Tyler in this insightful video. Tyler shares his recent discoveries regarding thoracic spine movement and muscle engagement, shedding light on how different rotational approaches impact the golf swing. With detailed explanations and practical demonstrations, Tyler offers valuable insights for refining techniques and optimizing performance on the course. Whether you're a seasoned golfer or just starting out, Tyler's expertise provides actionable advice for enhancing your swing mechanics and achieving greater consistency and control.
Delve into the nuances of backside versus front-side rotation with Tyler in this insightful video. Tyler shares his recent discoveries regarding thoracic spine movement and muscle engagement, shedding light on how different rotational approaches impact the golf swing. With detailed explanations and practical demonstrations, Tyler offers valuable insights for refining techniques and optimizing performance on the course. Whether you're a seasoned golfer or just starting out, Tyler's expertise provides actionable advice for enhancing your swing mechanics and achieving greater consistency and control.
Video Transcript
1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.900
This concept video is backside versus frontside rotation.
2
00:00:09.900 --> 00:00:16.690
So one of my kind of bigger understandings in the last three, four months has
3
00:00:16.690 --> 00:00:17.260
come from
4
00:00:17.260 --> 00:00:21.490
a few conversations that I've had with Guy and some of the progress that I've
5
00:00:21.490 --> 00:00:22.100
had with
6
00:00:22.100 --> 00:00:27.260
my physical capabilities and my body and my thoracic spine.
7
00:00:27.260 --> 00:00:31.640
So that's led itself to this video and this understanding of what I'm calling
8
00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:32.100
backside
9
00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:34.580
rotation versus frontside rotation.
10
00:00:34.580 --> 00:00:38.870
We're basically looking at a muscle group called the transversus spinalis and
11
00:00:38.870 --> 00:00:39.860
the rotaries.
12
00:00:39.860 --> 00:00:44.100
These are some really small muscles that are along the spine.
13
00:00:44.100 --> 00:00:47.020
I'll include a picture here so you can kind of see it.
14
00:00:47.020 --> 00:00:50.970
They're at a slight angle kind of like this, but they're very close to the
15
00:00:50.970 --> 00:00:51.580
spine.
16
00:00:51.580 --> 00:00:57.890
If we are using those as, let's say the chief engine of the rotation, well the
17
00:00:57.890 --> 00:00:58.860
exercise
18
00:00:58.860 --> 00:01:04.470
to reinforce it is a blend of an extension of the spine, kind of like this,
19
00:01:04.470 --> 00:01:05.380
with a little
20
00:01:05.380 --> 00:01:09.100
bit of rotation and a little bit of side bend.
21
00:01:09.100 --> 00:01:12.950
So it kind of looks like this and if I did one side than the other, it looks
22
00:01:12.950 --> 00:01:13.820
like this.
23
00:01:13.820 --> 00:01:20.640
And if you see when I do that, my head and everything stays a little bit more
24
00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:21.380
in line
25
00:01:21.380 --> 00:01:27.630
and I kind of get taller as I'm doing this movement that's called negative tors
26
00:01:27.630 --> 00:01:28.300
ion.
27
00:01:28.300 --> 00:01:31.370
Now if I was to do front side, so if I was going to use the obliques, the obl
28
00:01:31.370 --> 00:01:31.820
iques go
29
00:01:31.820 --> 00:01:40.110
from the kind of lower rib cage to the pelvis and into the inner thigh of the
30
00:01:40.110 --> 00:01:41.720
opposite leg.
31
00:01:41.720 --> 00:01:44.720
And if I do an oblique crunch, you can see it looks like this and it kind of
32
00:01:44.720 --> 00:01:45.180
pulls my
33
00:01:45.180 --> 00:01:48.220
upper body down and it moves it a little bit forward.
34
00:01:48.220 --> 00:01:53.040
So if I did that kind of side to side just focusing on the oblique, you'll see
35
00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:53.620
that my
36
00:01:53.620 --> 00:01:57.420
upper body has a little bit more translation.
37
00:01:57.420 --> 00:02:02.150
So my big understanding as I've improved some of my personal ability to move my
38
00:02:02.150 --> 00:02:03.140
rib cage
39
00:02:03.140 --> 00:02:09.530
is that you want the dominant movement to be more of this negative torsion kind
40
00:02:09.530 --> 00:02:10.060
of going
41
00:02:10.060 --> 00:02:15.950
into this movement here and you want the oblique to complement the negative t
42
00:02:15.950 --> 00:02:17.100
orsion where I
43
00:02:17.100 --> 00:02:23.500
think in the past especially because of my posture and my rib cage creation or
44
00:02:23.500 --> 00:02:24.940
foundation,
45
00:02:24.940 --> 00:02:28.700
I would emphasize more the feeling of the obliques.
46
00:02:28.700 --> 00:02:32.740
The emphasis on the obliques came from, I remember playing a 36 hole tournament
47
00:02:32.740 --> 00:02:33.060
back
48
00:02:33.060 --> 00:02:38.880
in college and potentially is where I developed an injury but the next day I
49
00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:40.180
was really sore
50
00:02:40.180 --> 00:02:45.220
in my right oblique and my right glute and that stuck with me as like okay this
51
00:02:45.220 --> 00:02:45.700
is one
52
00:02:45.700 --> 00:02:49.020
of the big engines of the golf swing.
53
00:02:49.020 --> 00:02:53.960
Also the obliques are very powerful so for a lot of golfers, feeling this front
54
00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:54.380
side
55
00:02:54.380 --> 00:02:58.810
rotation or feeling more of the oblique movement feels very powerful where the
56
00:02:58.810 --> 00:02:59.620
back muscles
57
00:02:59.620 --> 00:03:05.380
are weaker but they're so close to the spine they can create a really kind of
58
00:03:05.380 --> 00:03:06.580
tight, quick
59
00:03:06.580 --> 00:03:10.730
movement rather than a big forceful movement where this tends to show up the
60
00:03:10.730 --> 00:03:11.620
most is either
61
00:03:11.620 --> 00:03:17.230
in the backswing when your upper body kind of sways off the ball or more
62
00:03:17.230 --> 00:03:17.300
importantly
63
00:03:17.300 --> 00:03:18.300
is during the downswing.
64
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I see that as a release movement when golfers are trying to create a lot of
65
00:03:22.210 --> 00:03:22.980
force, if they
66
00:03:22.980 --> 00:03:27.520
do it more by kind of rotating the oblique then you'll tend to see the head
67
00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:28.380
kind of drift
68
00:03:28.380 --> 00:03:32.460
forward and the body stay in a little bit more flexion on the way through.
69
00:03:32.460 --> 00:03:38.470
If you're doing it more with the back muscles there, kind of the upper lumbar,
70
00:03:38.470 --> 00:03:39.780
lower thoracic
71
00:03:39.780 --> 00:03:44.090
kind of middle of the body here from about T6 to L3, kind of middle of the body
72
00:03:44.090 --> 00:03:44.500
there
73
00:03:44.500 --> 00:03:50.820
if I'm doing that movement as I'm coming through then that tends to create this
74
00:03:50.820 --> 00:03:51.340
look
75
00:03:51.340 --> 00:03:57.110
of this full body finish and the upper body kind of chest up as opposed to down
76
00:03:57.110 --> 00:03:58.660
and forward.
77
00:03:58.660 --> 00:04:02.100
So that down and forward that kind of chase move on the way through I think
78
00:04:02.100 --> 00:04:02.700
creates a
79
00:04:02.700 --> 00:04:08.010
lot of inconsistencies both in contact and direction typically causes poles can
80
00:04:08.010 --> 00:04:08.220
cause
81
00:04:08.220 --> 00:04:14.990
toe shots, lots of direction issues where I think if you're getting more of
82
00:04:14.990 --> 00:04:16.020
this backside
83
00:04:16.020 --> 00:04:21.060
rotation or negative torsion it tends to have more of a feeling of hitting it
84
00:04:21.060 --> 00:04:21.620
more with
85
00:04:21.620 --> 00:04:26.320
the body, less activity with the arms and it helps support a lot of the good
86
00:04:26.320 --> 00:04:27.340
arm movements
87
00:04:27.340 --> 00:04:32.950
that we like to do and it helps control the low point depth so it allows you to
88
00:04:32.950 --> 00:04:33.020
cover
89
00:04:33.020 --> 00:04:37.090
the ball better or have your upper body more over your front foot especially
90
00:04:37.090 --> 00:04:37.740
for your kind
91
00:04:37.740 --> 00:04:40.980
of mid mid and short irons and even into your wedges.
92
00:04:40.980 --> 00:04:47.380
So there are definitely exercises or drills where I focused on getting into
93
00:04:47.380 --> 00:04:48.220
this good
94
00:04:48.220 --> 00:04:51.650
bracing position but maybe this is a little bit more of a technical
95
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understanding and
96
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if you're working with a trainer in the gym you can try to incorporate a little
97
00:04:56.200 --> 00:04:56.700
bit more
98
00:04:56.700 --> 00:05:02.310
of these back muscles, the transversa spinalis and the rotors into your
99
00:05:02.310 --> 00:05:03.140
exercise program so
100
00:05:03.140 --> 00:05:07.360
that makes it easier for you to feel some of this backside rotation through the
101
00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:08.060
ball rather
102
00:05:08.060 --> 00:05:11.700
than a dominant downward oblique action through the ball.
103
00:05:11.700 --> 00:05:17.310
Alright so real quick demo, if I was going to do an exaggerated oblique
104
00:05:17.310 --> 00:05:17.740
movement it would
105
00:05:17.740 --> 00:05:23.360
kind of have more of a movement like that where now if I was going to dominate
106
00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:23.820
with
107
00:05:23.820 --> 00:05:27.890
the back but support it with the oblique so it's not like you're not using the
108
00:05:27.890 --> 00:05:28.540
obliques
109
00:05:28.540 --> 00:05:34.660
they're just not dominant, it will feel a lot easier to me in terms of effort
110
00:05:34.660 --> 00:05:35.100
so it'll
111
00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:41.940
feel a little bit more relaxed and big thing, it will feel a lot kind of taller
112
00:05:41.940 --> 00:05:42.300
more like
113
00:05:42.300 --> 00:05:47.120
I'm stretching my abs, stretching my chest, stretching even my neck and getting
114
00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:47.660
into some
115
00:05:47.660 --> 00:05:50.940
of this good tall full body finish.
116
00:05:50.940 --> 00:05:54.610
I think that over the last few months has been one of the more profound
117
00:05:54.610 --> 00:05:55.500
movements that
118
00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:58.980
I've been teaching my students it seems to clean up a lot of things in the
119
00:05:58.980 --> 00:05:59.900
finish position
120
00:05:59.900 --> 00:06:03.740
learning how to rotate with your back muscles safely as opposed to dominating
121
00:06:03.740 --> 00:06:04.460
the movement
122
00:06:04.460 --> 00:06:05.620
with your obliques.
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Ask Mulligan for helpBack Side vs Front Side Rotation
Delve into the nuances of backside versus front-side rotation with Tyler in this insightful video. Tyler shares his recent discoveries regarding thoracic spine movement and muscle engagement, shedding light on how different rotational approaches impact the golf swing. With detailed explanations and practical demonstrations, Tyler offers valuable insights for refining techniques and optimizing performance on the course. Whether you're a seasoned golfer or just starting out, Tyler's expertise provides actionable advice for enhancing your swing mechanics and achieving greater consistency and control.
Delve into the nuances of backside versus front-side rotation with Tyler in this insightful video. Tyler shares his recent discoveries regarding thoracic spine movement and muscle engagement, shedding light on how different rotational approaches impact the golf swing. With detailed explanations and practical demonstrations, Tyler offers valuable insights for refining techniques and optimizing performance on the course. Whether you're a seasoned golfer or just starting out, Tyler's expertise provides actionable advice for enhancing your swing mechanics and achieving greater consistency and control.
Video Transcript
1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.900
This concept video is backside versus frontside rotation.
2
00:00:09.900 --> 00:00:16.690
So one of my kind of bigger understandings in the last three, four months has
3
00:00:16.690 --> 00:00:17.260
come from
4
00:00:17.260 --> 00:00:21.490
a few conversations that I've had with Guy and some of the progress that I've
5
00:00:21.490 --> 00:00:22.100
had with
6
00:00:22.100 --> 00:00:27.260
my physical capabilities and my body and my thoracic spine.
7
00:00:27.260 --> 00:00:31.640
So that's led itself to this video and this understanding of what I'm calling
8
00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:32.100
backside
9
00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:34.580
rotation versus frontside rotation.
10
00:00:34.580 --> 00:00:38.870
We're basically looking at a muscle group called the transversus spinalis and
11
00:00:38.870 --> 00:00:39.860
the rotaries.
12
00:00:39.860 --> 00:00:44.100
These are some really small muscles that are along the spine.
13
00:00:44.100 --> 00:00:47.020
I'll include a picture here so you can kind of see it.
14
00:00:47.020 --> 00:00:50.970
They're at a slight angle kind of like this, but they're very close to the
15
00:00:50.970 --> 00:00:51.580
spine.
16
00:00:51.580 --> 00:00:57.890
If we are using those as, let's say the chief engine of the rotation, well the
17
00:00:57.890 --> 00:00:58.860
exercise
18
00:00:58.860 --> 00:01:04.470
to reinforce it is a blend of an extension of the spine, kind of like this,
19
00:01:04.470 --> 00:01:05.380
with a little
20
00:01:05.380 --> 00:01:09.100
bit of rotation and a little bit of side bend.
21
00:01:09.100 --> 00:01:12.950
So it kind of looks like this and if I did one side than the other, it looks
22
00:01:12.950 --> 00:01:13.820
like this.
23
00:01:13.820 --> 00:01:20.640
And if you see when I do that, my head and everything stays a little bit more
24
00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:21.380
in line
25
00:01:21.380 --> 00:01:27.630
and I kind of get taller as I'm doing this movement that's called negative tors
26
00:01:27.630 --> 00:01:28.300
ion.
27
00:01:28.300 --> 00:01:31.370
Now if I was to do front side, so if I was going to use the obliques, the obl
28
00:01:31.370 --> 00:01:31.820
iques go
29
00:01:31.820 --> 00:01:40.110
from the kind of lower rib cage to the pelvis and into the inner thigh of the
30
00:01:40.110 --> 00:01:41.720
opposite leg.
31
00:01:41.720 --> 00:01:44.720
And if I do an oblique crunch, you can see it looks like this and it kind of
32
00:01:44.720 --> 00:01:45.180
pulls my
33
00:01:45.180 --> 00:01:48.220
upper body down and it moves it a little bit forward.
34
00:01:48.220 --> 00:01:53.040
So if I did that kind of side to side just focusing on the oblique, you'll see
35
00:01:53.040 --> 00:01:53.620
that my
36
00:01:53.620 --> 00:01:57.420
upper body has a little bit more translation.
37
00:01:57.420 --> 00:02:02.150
So my big understanding as I've improved some of my personal ability to move my
38
00:02:02.150 --> 00:02:03.140
rib cage
39
00:02:03.140 --> 00:02:09.530
is that you want the dominant movement to be more of this negative torsion kind
40
00:02:09.530 --> 00:02:10.060
of going
41
00:02:10.060 --> 00:02:15.950
into this movement here and you want the oblique to complement the negative t
42
00:02:15.950 --> 00:02:17.100
orsion where I
43
00:02:17.100 --> 00:02:23.500
think in the past especially because of my posture and my rib cage creation or
44
00:02:23.500 --> 00:02:24.940
foundation,
45
00:02:24.940 --> 00:02:28.700
I would emphasize more the feeling of the obliques.
46
00:02:28.700 --> 00:02:32.740
The emphasis on the obliques came from, I remember playing a 36 hole tournament
47
00:02:32.740 --> 00:02:33.060
back
48
00:02:33.060 --> 00:02:38.880
in college and potentially is where I developed an injury but the next day I
49
00:02:38.880 --> 00:02:40.180
was really sore
50
00:02:40.180 --> 00:02:45.220
in my right oblique and my right glute and that stuck with me as like okay this
51
00:02:45.220 --> 00:02:45.700
is one
52
00:02:45.700 --> 00:02:49.020
of the big engines of the golf swing.
53
00:02:49.020 --> 00:02:53.960
Also the obliques are very powerful so for a lot of golfers, feeling this front
54
00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:54.380
side
55
00:02:54.380 --> 00:02:58.810
rotation or feeling more of the oblique movement feels very powerful where the
56
00:02:58.810 --> 00:02:59.620
back muscles
57
00:02:59.620 --> 00:03:05.380
are weaker but they're so close to the spine they can create a really kind of
58
00:03:05.380 --> 00:03:06.580
tight, quick
59
00:03:06.580 --> 00:03:10.730
movement rather than a big forceful movement where this tends to show up the
60
00:03:10.730 --> 00:03:11.620
most is either
61
00:03:11.620 --> 00:03:17.230
in the backswing when your upper body kind of sways off the ball or more
62
00:03:17.230 --> 00:03:17.300
importantly
63
00:03:17.300 --> 00:03:18.300
is during the downswing.
64
00:03:18.300 --> 00:03:22.210
I see that as a release movement when golfers are trying to create a lot of
65
00:03:22.210 --> 00:03:22.980
force, if they
66
00:03:22.980 --> 00:03:27.520
do it more by kind of rotating the oblique then you'll tend to see the head
67
00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:28.380
kind of drift
68
00:03:28.380 --> 00:03:32.460
forward and the body stay in a little bit more flexion on the way through.
69
00:03:32.460 --> 00:03:38.470
If you're doing it more with the back muscles there, kind of the upper lumbar,
70
00:03:38.470 --> 00:03:39.780
lower thoracic
71
00:03:39.780 --> 00:03:44.090
kind of middle of the body here from about T6 to L3, kind of middle of the body
72
00:03:44.090 --> 00:03:44.500
there
73
00:03:44.500 --> 00:03:50.820
if I'm doing that movement as I'm coming through then that tends to create this
74
00:03:50.820 --> 00:03:51.340
look
75
00:03:51.340 --> 00:03:57.110
of this full body finish and the upper body kind of chest up as opposed to down
76
00:03:57.110 --> 00:03:58.660
and forward.
77
00:03:58.660 --> 00:04:02.100
So that down and forward that kind of chase move on the way through I think
78
00:04:02.100 --> 00:04:02.700
creates a
79
00:04:02.700 --> 00:04:08.010
lot of inconsistencies both in contact and direction typically causes poles can
80
00:04:08.010 --> 00:04:08.220
cause
81
00:04:08.220 --> 00:04:14.990
toe shots, lots of direction issues where I think if you're getting more of
82
00:04:14.990 --> 00:04:16.020
this backside
83
00:04:16.020 --> 00:04:21.060
rotation or negative torsion it tends to have more of a feeling of hitting it
84
00:04:21.060 --> 00:04:21.620
more with
85
00:04:21.620 --> 00:04:26.320
the body, less activity with the arms and it helps support a lot of the good
86
00:04:26.320 --> 00:04:27.340
arm movements
87
00:04:27.340 --> 00:04:32.950
that we like to do and it helps control the low point depth so it allows you to
88
00:04:32.950 --> 00:04:33.020
cover
89
00:04:33.020 --> 00:04:37.090
the ball better or have your upper body more over your front foot especially
90
00:04:37.090 --> 00:04:37.740
for your kind
91
00:04:37.740 --> 00:04:40.980
of mid mid and short irons and even into your wedges.
92
00:04:40.980 --> 00:04:47.380
So there are definitely exercises or drills where I focused on getting into
93
00:04:47.380 --> 00:04:48.220
this good
94
00:04:48.220 --> 00:04:51.650
bracing position but maybe this is a little bit more of a technical
95
00:04:51.650 --> 00:04:52.740
understanding and
96
00:04:52.740 --> 00:04:56.200
if you're working with a trainer in the gym you can try to incorporate a little
97
00:04:56.200 --> 00:04:56.700
bit more
98
00:04:56.700 --> 00:05:02.310
of these back muscles, the transversa spinalis and the rotors into your
99
00:05:02.310 --> 00:05:03.140
exercise program so
100
00:05:03.140 --> 00:05:07.360
that makes it easier for you to feel some of this backside rotation through the
101
00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:08.060
ball rather
102
00:05:08.060 --> 00:05:11.700
than a dominant downward oblique action through the ball.
103
00:05:11.700 --> 00:05:17.310
Alright so real quick demo, if I was going to do an exaggerated oblique
104
00:05:17.310 --> 00:05:17.740
movement it would
105
00:05:17.740 --> 00:05:23.360
kind of have more of a movement like that where now if I was going to dominate
106
00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:23.820
with
107
00:05:23.820 --> 00:05:27.890
the back but support it with the oblique so it's not like you're not using the
108
00:05:27.890 --> 00:05:28.540
obliques
109
00:05:28.540 --> 00:05:34.660
they're just not dominant, it will feel a lot easier to me in terms of effort
110
00:05:34.660 --> 00:05:35.100
so it'll
111
00:05:35.100 --> 00:05:41.940
feel a little bit more relaxed and big thing, it will feel a lot kind of taller
112
00:05:41.940 --> 00:05:42.300
more like
113
00:05:42.300 --> 00:05:47.120
I'm stretching my abs, stretching my chest, stretching even my neck and getting
114
00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:47.660
into some
115
00:05:47.660 --> 00:05:50.940
of this good tall full body finish.
116
00:05:50.940 --> 00:05:54.610
I think that over the last few months has been one of the more profound
117
00:05:54.610 --> 00:05:55.500
movements that
118
00:05:55.500 --> 00:05:58.980
I've been teaching my students it seems to clean up a lot of things in the
119
00:05:58.980 --> 00:05:59.900
finish position
120
00:05:59.900 --> 00:06:03.740
learning how to rotate with your back muscles safely as opposed to dominating
121
00:06:03.740 --> 00:06:04.460
the movement
122
00:06:04.460 --> 00:06:05.620
with your obliques.
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