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Analysis Video - Motorcycle Move Explained

Flexing the lead wrist more than it was at set up is a key movement for squaring the club face. This move will fix your slice and help you hit it further.

Some golfers do it in the backswing, like Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka. Some in transition - like Henrik Stenson or Justing Thomas. Some during the release, like Rory Sabatini and John Senden.

Many amateurs have the club MORE OPEN than it was at set up and have to swing outside in or scoop it as part of the pattern.

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Flexing the lead wrist more than it was at set up is a key movement for squaring the club face. This move will fix your slice and help you hit it further.

Some golfers do it in the backswing, like Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka. Some in transition - like Henrik Stenson or Justing Thomas. Some during the release, like Rory Sabatini and John Senden.

Many amateurs have the club MORE OPEN than it was at set up and have to swing outside in or scoop it as part of the pattern.

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In this analysis video, we're going to take a look at the motorcycle movement.

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So I had a question from one of the members about can you do the motorcycle at

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the top

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of the swing instead of trying to do it during transition.

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So I thought I'd do an analysis video where we take a look at where the

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motorcycle move

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really came from and how you can see it on 2D and what it looks like on 3D

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because you'll

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see on 3D, it's pretty apparent what pros are doing with their lead wrist in

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order to

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help control the clubface to set up for a more body powered swing.

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So these two golfers here tend to have a more classic motorcycle pattern and

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there's three

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places you can look for at the wrist position in order to determine when they

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are doing their

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motorcycle movement.

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The first checkpoint is when the shaft is parallel in the back swing and what

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you're

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just going to look for is the angle between the wrist and the forearm and you

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'll see

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that both of these golfers have a little bit of extension of that lead wrist.

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So they didn't really flex the wrist or do any of that motorcycle movement

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during the

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takeaway and you can see in both cases the clubface is just slightly more

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closed in the

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classic sense or just slightly more rotated down than vertical.

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Okay, so now if we go up to the second checkpoint we're going to look at the

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top of the swing.

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So there might have been a little bit there.

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The wrist is pretty close to flat, it's definitely not 100% but it's pretty

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close to flat.

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So we know that possibly Justin over on the right did some during that part of

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the swing.

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And Eric, we don't see quite as much of a change so you can still see that

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there is

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a bit of an extension at that position there.

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So neither of these guys are really major back swing motor cyclists.

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So now sometimes it's a little harder to see so I zoomed in so that we can look

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at their

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wrist here in transition.

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And now if I just kind of scrub back and forth you can see right there at the

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top of the

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swing as he's already started shifting his weight and shifting his pressure.

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You can see that that left wrist is starting to flex.

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And so then that second checkpoint is looking at the shaft roughly when it gets

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back down

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to where it was or back down to parallel.

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So now if you remember in the backswing his wrist was slightly bent this way.

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And so now at this point it is significantly bent the other way.

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He's flexed that lead wrist probably a good 30 or 40 degrees and we saw most of

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it was

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done between the top of the swing because it's pretty straight there and that

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position

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there.

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So this would be more of the classic transition motorcycle movement.

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If we look at Henrik we're going to see less exaggerated but the same pattern.

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So when we get him down to about shaft parallel you'll see that there's a

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slight amount of

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bow.

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He's not one the ones he doesn't have the 40, 50 degrees of movement like

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Justin Thomas.

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He may be more in the lower end more like the 2030.

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But if I bring him back to his takeaway position you can see that right there

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there's clearly

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more extension in that lead wrist and then by the timing gets down to there

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after transition

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you can see that there is significantly less.

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That is the motorcycle movement and these two are demonstrating the most

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classic timing

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which is happening during transition.

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Before we look at the timing of what other tour pros do let's look at some 3D

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graphs to

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make it easier to see what we're about to look for.

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On the x-axis you have a timeline.

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So you have a dress position, top of the swing, impact and finish.

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So here are the different phases of the golf swing.

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And then on the y-axis this represents flexion and this represents extension.

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So the more that the graph is going down like this or is negative the golfer,

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if it's negative

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they are in an extended position, if it's going negative they are extending.

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If the graph is positive they are flexing, or sorry they're in a flexion

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position, if

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it is going positive or trending upward then they are flexing.

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So basically from a dress position the golfer had about 13 degrees of extension

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which is

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a little low so this is what's a weaker grid.

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During the backswing they increased their extension about 10 degrees or so so

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that they

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had about 25 degrees at the top so a little bit of cup at the top of the swing

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right here.

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And then all this from here to here this positive movement is flexing the wrist

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until this position

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here which is about shaft parallel or a little bit after shaft parallel.

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So the majority of the downswing this golfer is pretty consistently flexing

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that lead wrist

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which will rotate the face in a more close position.

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This transition flexion like this is the classic version of the motorcycle

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movement.

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Alright in this second graph we have another PGA Tour winner and this golfer is

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demonstrating

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more of the backswing version of the motorcycle movement.

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So what you'll notice is that between a dress and top of the swing that's where

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we see a

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big uptake and it's really this is about shaft parallel so it's really during

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setting

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the club where this golfer is flexing the wrist or doing a pretty massive

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motorcycle

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movement because you can see that they started around 45 degrees extended and

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then at the

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top of the swing they've gone to a slightly you know five maybe even seven

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eight degrees

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of flex.

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Now what you'll see is they don't really increase it anymore from there in fact

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they decrease

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it a little bit as they're kind of going through that early transition maybe

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they're

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pulling down just slightly with the arms which causes that the typically

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increase but you'll

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see that coming into impact there's a little bit of a increase so this movement

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here is

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typically from created more when the body is rotating as opposed to pulling too

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much

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with the arms but then you'll see the classic release of that position so then

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at impact

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the golfer had a stronger grip and you'd see it impact they have a slight

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extension of

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the wrist or a slight cup so they're not totally bowed at impact but you can

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see compared

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to when where they started they are somewhere about 30 or 40 degrees more flex

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ed than they

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were at setup.

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So if transition is the most common and the backswing is probably the second

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most common

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this is by far the least common and this is more of a release motorcycle this

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golfer

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will tend to look like they have a open or extended wrist down in transition we

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'll look

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at a couple examples of golfers who have more of this pattern so you'll see

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that this golfer

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started with a weaker grip flexed during the takeaway but then extended it to

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cup the wrist

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and create more of like a vertical lag situation at the top of the swing.

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Now this golfer starts the flex a little bit but kind of plateaus here as they

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have

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a pretty pronounced cup midway through the downswing so this is a golfer where

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you would

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look at them at let's say somewhere around here is probably shaft parallel and

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somewhere

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around here is shaft parallel and you would say that this golfer is actually

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more extended

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during the downswing than they were in the backswing but then what would be

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hard to see

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is you would look at them at impact and you'd notice that they had a

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significant amount

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of flexion in that lead wrist at impact so they would look like they had a boat

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or flat

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left wrist even though at delivery position they still had a cupped wrist.

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So this is the minority I haven't seen too many golfers like this where it's

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flexing

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and doing the motorcycle movement of about 30-40 degrees in this short period

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of time

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but there are at least a handful of examples who do this pattern pretty well.

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Alright lastly we'll look at a higher handicap amateur golfer who battles with

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a slice and

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now you'll see why the motorcycle movement is one of the critical movements to

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developing

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your stock tour swing.

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So right around here he starts at about 20 degrees no problem flexes the wrist

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during

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the take away so kind of has a inside and shut look at shaft parallel and then

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during

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the second part of the backswing he tends to extend the wrist and really kind

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of cup

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it as he's hinging his wrist so he tends to have a look of a really big wrist

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set at

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the top of the swing where he's got somewhere around 30 degrees of extension of

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the wrist

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and you'll see he tries to start with his body and he tries to give a little

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bit of

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the motorcycle movement but it's the scale here most of the pros were doing it

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about

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30-40 degrees you can see that he's doing it somewhere around 15 and then the

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bigger

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problem is because he had increased the amount of extension at the top of the

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swing that

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15 degrees barely gets it past where it was set up and then when he hits the

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ball you

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can see right there he's hitting the ball with more extension in the wrist than

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he had

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it set up that means that he's opened the club face compared to where it was

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set up

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and the only way that he's going to hit this straight is if his hands are back

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so he doesn't

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have shaft lean and if he swings more outside in that's the only way that he's

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going to

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get this wrist position to hit the ball at the target so if you're trying to

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get more

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shaft lean if you're trying to get out of a slicing pattern learning the flex

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ion move

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learning the motorcycle move is one of the key movements that you'll want to

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incorporate

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in your swing in the rest of the video we're going to take a look at those two

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other examples

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of tour pros who do the motorcycle movement either to end the backswing or

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during the

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release okay so here we have two golfers who are going to then demonstrate more

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of the

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backswing motorcycle so here at the first checkpoint you've got the wrist is

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slightly

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extended pretty close to flat and then as he goes up towards the top of the

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swing you'll

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see he's got it in a bowed position so you can see that between that first

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checkpoint

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in this one here he has increased that flexion and then by the time he gets

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down to shaft

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parallel he's increased it a little bit more but most of it was done during

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that setting

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phase during the backswing he probably would be a blend of some backswing some

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transition

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I haven't actually seen his 3D graph the now you may see notice that the two

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examples I'm

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using for this backswing motorcycle movement hit the ball fairly long I can

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tell you that

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the 3D graph that I used was a PGA tour winner but he's definitely not one of

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the longer

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he's probably not even in the top 100 in terms of distance so I don't want you

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to think that

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doing it in the backswing is more powerful but for some it does especially some

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amateurs

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it's a little bit simpler because you don't have to focus quite so much on

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movement during

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transition so here we have Dustin at again that checkpoint you can see just a

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little

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bit of flexion there and then as he gets to the top of the swing you'll see a

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very pronounced

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amount of flexion and then as he comes down you'll see relatively close to the

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same amount

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he had at the top of the swing he's gonna look a lot closer to that backswing

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motorcycle

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graph okay so it's a little bit trickier to see the release motorcycle so I'm

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gonna show

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you two different golfers we're gonna look at Rory over here from this is Roy

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Sabatini

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we'll look at him from both views and you'll see it's a little bit harder to

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see the amount

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of extension from the face on but the only reason I'm gonna use the face on is

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so that

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we can confirm that at impact and just past impact you'll see that he's got a

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fair amount

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of bow to that wrist right so here's pretty much the top of the radius and then

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the hand

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is bowed a little bit away from that okay so now if I fast forward to his down

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the line

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you'll see that when I get him down first let's do the takeaway checkpoint so

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takeaway

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checkpoint you can see fairly straight okay we know he's gonna increase that by

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impact

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when I get him back down to that checkpoint you'll see that it's still fairly

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straight

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if I go one frame let's go up you can see that it looks like it still has a

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fair amount

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of cup to it and it's pointing well up towards the sky compared to the other

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two so that

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means that between here and impact is when he's doing that lead wrist flexion

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move or

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that motorcycle movement over on the right we have John Sendon this is a great

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close-up

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of the hands and so we don't even have to really look at it from down the line

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you can

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see here that there's clearly a fair amount of extension now here's where the

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release

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motorcycle movement will really come into view so he's going to go and as he's

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approaching

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impact you could see that as he was releasing the club he was also flexing the

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wrist it's

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hard to see because the wrist is rotating at the same time you can see it's got

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a fair

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amount of extension there and then at impact all that extension is gone so you

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do have the

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option as far as when to choose to work on the motorcycle movement you can

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either do

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it during the backswing and just kind of try to keep it there or you can do it

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during

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transition that's the most common time or you can do it during the release that

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requires

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more of a hands feeling but some guys really like the feeling in the lead wrist

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when it's

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bowing through impact so that was the three different versions of the

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motorcycle movement

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if you're having a hard time putting this movement into your golf swing then it

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could

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be more of the shaft shallowing or more of being blocked by sequencing or shaft

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shallowing

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or what the right arm is doing there's lots of reasons but this is a key

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movement for

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you to train if you really want to master your ball striking so if you're

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looking for

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these key movements you'll start to see that some of the weirder swings like

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let's say

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Jim Fürich still demonstrate the key movements common with most good ball

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strikers so you'll

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see you saw not a lot of flexion not a lot of flexion and then by the time he

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gets down

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to shaft parallel you can see there's kind of the angle of the wrist there's or

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the form

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and there's the wrist you can see about 20 degrees of flexion or so so he's

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more of the classic

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transition motorcyclist but you'll start to see the common moves that build up

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an elite golf

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swing and you'll learn to discount some of the unique timing movements that

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make their

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swings their own individual version of the stock tour swing.

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Analysis Video - Motorcycle Move Explained

Flexing the lead wrist more than it was at set up is a key movement for squaring the club face. This move will fix your slice and help you hit it further.

Some golfers do it in the backswing, like Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka. Some in transition - like Henrik Stenson or Justing Thomas. Some during the release, like Rory Sabatini and John Senden.

Many amateurs have the club MORE OPEN than it was at set up and have to swing outside in or scoop it as part of the pattern.

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Flexing the lead wrist more than it was at set up is a key movement for squaring the club face. This move will fix your slice and help you hit it further.

Some golfers do it in the backswing, like Dustin Johnson and Brooks Koepka. Some in transition - like Henrik Stenson or Justing Thomas. Some during the release, like Rory Sabatini and John Senden.

Many amateurs have the club MORE OPEN than it was at set up and have to swing outside in or scoop it as part of the pattern.

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In this analysis video, we're going to take a look at the motorcycle movement.

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So I had a question from one of the members about can you do the motorcycle at

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the top

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of the swing instead of trying to do it during transition.

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So I thought I'd do an analysis video where we take a look at where the

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motorcycle move

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really came from and how you can see it on 2D and what it looks like on 3D

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because you'll

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see on 3D, it's pretty apparent what pros are doing with their lead wrist in

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order to

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help control the clubface to set up for a more body powered swing.

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So these two golfers here tend to have a more classic motorcycle pattern and

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there's three

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places you can look for at the wrist position in order to determine when they

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are doing their

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motorcycle movement.

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The first checkpoint is when the shaft is parallel in the back swing and what

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you're

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just going to look for is the angle between the wrist and the forearm and you

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'll see

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that both of these golfers have a little bit of extension of that lead wrist.

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So they didn't really flex the wrist or do any of that motorcycle movement

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during the

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takeaway and you can see in both cases the clubface is just slightly more

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closed in the

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classic sense or just slightly more rotated down than vertical.

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Okay, so now if we go up to the second checkpoint we're going to look at the

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top of the swing.

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So there might have been a little bit there.

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The wrist is pretty close to flat, it's definitely not 100% but it's pretty

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close to flat.

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So we know that possibly Justin over on the right did some during that part of

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the swing.

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And Eric, we don't see quite as much of a change so you can still see that

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there is

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a bit of an extension at that position there.

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So neither of these guys are really major back swing motor cyclists.

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So now sometimes it's a little harder to see so I zoomed in so that we can look

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at their

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wrist here in transition.

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And now if I just kind of scrub back and forth you can see right there at the

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top of the

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swing as he's already started shifting his weight and shifting his pressure.

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You can see that that left wrist is starting to flex.

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And so then that second checkpoint is looking at the shaft roughly when it gets

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back down

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to where it was or back down to parallel.

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So now if you remember in the backswing his wrist was slightly bent this way.

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And so now at this point it is significantly bent the other way.

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He's flexed that lead wrist probably a good 30 or 40 degrees and we saw most of

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it was

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done between the top of the swing because it's pretty straight there and that

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position

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there.

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So this would be more of the classic transition motorcycle movement.

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If we look at Henrik we're going to see less exaggerated but the same pattern.

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So when we get him down to about shaft parallel you'll see that there's a

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slight amount of

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bow.

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He's not one the ones he doesn't have the 40, 50 degrees of movement like

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Justin Thomas.

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He may be more in the lower end more like the 2030.

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But if I bring him back to his takeaway position you can see that right there

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there's clearly

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more extension in that lead wrist and then by the timing gets down to there

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after transition

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you can see that there is significantly less.

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That is the motorcycle movement and these two are demonstrating the most

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classic timing

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which is happening during transition.

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Before we look at the timing of what other tour pros do let's look at some 3D

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graphs to

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make it easier to see what we're about to look for.

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On the x-axis you have a timeline.

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So you have a dress position, top of the swing, impact and finish.

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So here are the different phases of the golf swing.

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And then on the y-axis this represents flexion and this represents extension.

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So the more that the graph is going down like this or is negative the golfer,

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if it's negative

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they are in an extended position, if it's going negative they are extending.

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If the graph is positive they are flexing, or sorry they're in a flexion

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position, if

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it is going positive or trending upward then they are flexing.

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So basically from a dress position the golfer had about 13 degrees of extension

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which is

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a little low so this is what's a weaker grid.

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During the backswing they increased their extension about 10 degrees or so so

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that they

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had about 25 degrees at the top so a little bit of cup at the top of the swing

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right here.

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And then all this from here to here this positive movement is flexing the wrist

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until this position

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here which is about shaft parallel or a little bit after shaft parallel.

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So the majority of the downswing this golfer is pretty consistently flexing

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that lead wrist

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which will rotate the face in a more close position.

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This transition flexion like this is the classic version of the motorcycle

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movement.

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Alright in this second graph we have another PGA Tour winner and this golfer is

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demonstrating

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more of the backswing version of the motorcycle movement.

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So what you'll notice is that between a dress and top of the swing that's where

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we see a

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big uptake and it's really this is about shaft parallel so it's really during

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setting

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the club where this golfer is flexing the wrist or doing a pretty massive

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motorcycle

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movement because you can see that they started around 45 degrees extended and

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then at the

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top of the swing they've gone to a slightly you know five maybe even seven

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eight degrees

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of flex.

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Now what you'll see is they don't really increase it anymore from there in fact

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they decrease

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it a little bit as they're kind of going through that early transition maybe

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they're

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pulling down just slightly with the arms which causes that the typically

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increase but you'll

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see that coming into impact there's a little bit of a increase so this movement

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here is

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typically from created more when the body is rotating as opposed to pulling too

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much

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with the arms but then you'll see the classic release of that position so then

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at impact

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the golfer had a stronger grip and you'd see it impact they have a slight

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extension of

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the wrist or a slight cup so they're not totally bowed at impact but you can

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see compared

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to when where they started they are somewhere about 30 or 40 degrees more flex

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ed than they

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were at setup.

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So if transition is the most common and the backswing is probably the second

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most common

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this is by far the least common and this is more of a release motorcycle this

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golfer

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will tend to look like they have a open or extended wrist down in transition we

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'll look

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at a couple examples of golfers who have more of this pattern so you'll see

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that this golfer

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started with a weaker grip flexed during the takeaway but then extended it to

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cup the wrist

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and create more of like a vertical lag situation at the top of the swing.

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Now this golfer starts the flex a little bit but kind of plateaus here as they

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have

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a pretty pronounced cup midway through the downswing so this is a golfer where

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you would

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look at them at let's say somewhere around here is probably shaft parallel and

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somewhere

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around here is shaft parallel and you would say that this golfer is actually

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more extended

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during the downswing than they were in the backswing but then what would be

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hard to see

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is you would look at them at impact and you'd notice that they had a

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significant amount

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of flexion in that lead wrist at impact so they would look like they had a boat

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or flat

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left wrist even though at delivery position they still had a cupped wrist.

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So this is the minority I haven't seen too many golfers like this where it's

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flexing

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and doing the motorcycle movement of about 30-40 degrees in this short period

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of time

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but there are at least a handful of examples who do this pattern pretty well.

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Alright lastly we'll look at a higher handicap amateur golfer who battles with

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a slice and

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now you'll see why the motorcycle movement is one of the critical movements to

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developing

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your stock tour swing.

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So right around here he starts at about 20 degrees no problem flexes the wrist

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during

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the take away so kind of has a inside and shut look at shaft parallel and then

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during

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the second part of the backswing he tends to extend the wrist and really kind

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of cup

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it as he's hinging his wrist so he tends to have a look of a really big wrist

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set at

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the top of the swing where he's got somewhere around 30 degrees of extension of

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the wrist

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and you'll see he tries to start with his body and he tries to give a little

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bit of

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the motorcycle movement but it's the scale here most of the pros were doing it

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about

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30-40 degrees you can see that he's doing it somewhere around 15 and then the

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bigger

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problem is because he had increased the amount of extension at the top of the

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swing that

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15 degrees barely gets it past where it was set up and then when he hits the

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ball you

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can see right there he's hitting the ball with more extension in the wrist than

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he had

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it set up that means that he's opened the club face compared to where it was

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set up

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and the only way that he's going to hit this straight is if his hands are back

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so he doesn't

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have shaft lean and if he swings more outside in that's the only way that he's

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going to

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get this wrist position to hit the ball at the target so if you're trying to

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get more

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shaft lean if you're trying to get out of a slicing pattern learning the flex

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ion move

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learning the motorcycle move is one of the key movements that you'll want to

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incorporate

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in your swing in the rest of the video we're going to take a look at those two

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other examples

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of tour pros who do the motorcycle movement either to end the backswing or

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during the

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release okay so here we have two golfers who are going to then demonstrate more

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of the

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backswing motorcycle so here at the first checkpoint you've got the wrist is

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slightly

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extended pretty close to flat and then as he goes up towards the top of the

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swing you'll

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see he's got it in a bowed position so you can see that between that first

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checkpoint

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in this one here he has increased that flexion and then by the time he gets

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down to shaft

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parallel he's increased it a little bit more but most of it was done during

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that setting

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phase during the backswing he probably would be a blend of some backswing some

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transition

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I haven't actually seen his 3D graph the now you may see notice that the two

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examples I'm

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using for this backswing motorcycle movement hit the ball fairly long I can

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tell you that

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the 3D graph that I used was a PGA tour winner but he's definitely not one of

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the longer

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he's probably not even in the top 100 in terms of distance so I don't want you

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to think that

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doing it in the backswing is more powerful but for some it does especially some

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amateurs

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it's a little bit simpler because you don't have to focus quite so much on

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movement during

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transition so here we have Dustin at again that checkpoint you can see just a

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little

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bit of flexion there and then as he gets to the top of the swing you'll see a

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very pronounced

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amount of flexion and then as he comes down you'll see relatively close to the

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same amount

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he had at the top of the swing he's gonna look a lot closer to that backswing

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motorcycle

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graph okay so it's a little bit trickier to see the release motorcycle so I'm

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gonna show

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you two different golfers we're gonna look at Rory over here from this is Roy

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Sabatini

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we'll look at him from both views and you'll see it's a little bit harder to

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see the amount

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of extension from the face on but the only reason I'm gonna use the face on is

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so that

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we can confirm that at impact and just past impact you'll see that he's got a

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fair amount

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of bow to that wrist right so here's pretty much the top of the radius and then

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the hand

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is bowed a little bit away from that okay so now if I fast forward to his down

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the line

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you'll see that when I get him down first let's do the takeaway checkpoint so

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takeaway

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checkpoint you can see fairly straight okay we know he's gonna increase that by

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impact

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when I get him back down to that checkpoint you'll see that it's still fairly

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straight

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if I go one frame let's go up you can see that it looks like it still has a

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fair amount

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of cup to it and it's pointing well up towards the sky compared to the other

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two so that

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means that between here and impact is when he's doing that lead wrist flexion

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move or

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that motorcycle movement over on the right we have John Sendon this is a great

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close-up

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of the hands and so we don't even have to really look at it from down the line

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you can

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see here that there's clearly a fair amount of extension now here's where the

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release

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motorcycle movement will really come into view so he's going to go and as he's

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approaching

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impact you could see that as he was releasing the club he was also flexing the

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wrist it's

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hard to see because the wrist is rotating at the same time you can see it's got

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a fair

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amount of extension there and then at impact all that extension is gone so you

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do have the

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option as far as when to choose to work on the motorcycle movement you can

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either do

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it during the backswing and just kind of try to keep it there or you can do it

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during

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transition that's the most common time or you can do it during the release that

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requires

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more of a hands feeling but some guys really like the feeling in the lead wrist

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when it's

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bowing through impact so that was the three different versions of the

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motorcycle movement

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if you're having a hard time putting this movement into your golf swing then it

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could

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be more of the shaft shallowing or more of being blocked by sequencing or shaft

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shallowing

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or what the right arm is doing there's lots of reasons but this is a key

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movement for

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you to train if you really want to master your ball striking so if you're

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looking for

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these key movements you'll start to see that some of the weirder swings like

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let's say

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Jim Fürich still demonstrate the key movements common with most good ball

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strikers so you'll

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see you saw not a lot of flexion not a lot of flexion and then by the time he

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gets down

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to shaft parallel you can see there's kind of the angle of the wrist there's or

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the form

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and there's the wrist you can see about 20 degrees of flexion or so so he's

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more of the classic

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transition motorcyclist but you'll start to see the common moves that build up

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an elite golf

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swing and you'll learn to discount some of the unique timing movements that

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make their

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swings their own individual version of the stock tour swing.

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