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Zach Fellman
3 months ago
Hi Tyler!
Hope you’re well.
I’ve had some luck practicing through the release feeling the trail scap retraction/depression blending to lead scap retraction/elevation- thank you for that insight.
I’m having a much harder time maintaining that lead scap resistance into the finish with longer clubs; with shorter clubs it doesn’t seem to be much of a problem. Do you have any suggestions for how to train it at speed? I can do it okay with my Orange Whip, but that doesn’t seem to transfer well.
Thanks in advance!
Zach
Edit I saw that boo-boo in my transition and added some Jackson 5 to the last Orange Whip swing in the Mardi Gras getup
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Zach Fellman
3 months ago
Sighhhh in my grand tradition of sending myself down my own rabbit holes, I think the reason I’m having difficulty maintaining that extension in the follow through is my body action in transition isn’t supporting it. I perhaps stumbled upon(pun) what my legs should feel like in transition with driver and long clubs. I’ll grind on this for awhile; now that I can hit the ball from a fairly static stop of swing it seems like an opportune time to go back to transition work.
Thank you, sorry to be a bother, and Happy Mardi Gras!!
Zach
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Zach Fellman
2 months, 3 weeks ago
I’m actually loving exploring the lower body action, and was not at all prepared for how much the “Trail Leg Back 45” concept would shake things up for me. I was looking to the upper body for answers to my impact arm alignments, but the lower body seems to hold the keys.
Just a progress update, and thank you Tyler!
Zach
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Zach Fellman
2 months, 2 weeks ago
Working on low to high- it’s time. Isolated the fact that lefty was the problem and also found lefty to be the side that wants to stall through the ball. These reps feel correct and give my right arm a chance to really freely rotate across my chest through the strike. On the Old Gypsy Woman tip, I think I understand why you told me I want my arms to be deep in transition: if slightly after p6 is the farthest out the handle gets, and that point is more or less under your chin, then you need it to come from wayyyy back inside to have room to get there.
Still plugging. I’m a solid 8 now, goal is to get to 6 or better by the end of the year.
Also thought you might be amused to see that ya boi was in a Popeyes commercial .
All the best, Zach
Edit: are distance wedges a good way to practice this? If so, is this amount(only one frame here) sufficient, or should I be shooting for more?
TIA,
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Zach Fellman
2 months ago
Hi Tyler! I’m really glad you gave me that range of motion idea; looking at my swing through that lens I think I’m maxing out several areas too early. Keeping the left crunch going until later has by itself changed the character of my ball striking.
Thank you so very much for taking the time. You have so many things going on, and it means so much to me that you find time for us in there.
Speaking of, I can’t be on the coaches’ call today; I’m in a play with a matinee performance during that window. I look forward to checking it out afterward though!
Sincerely,
Zach
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Zach Fellman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Further experiments with the range of motion idea.
Edit: I feel like this is proper sequencing led from the lower body, and my slide is also clearing up. For whatever it’s worth, my feel key here has been giving my trail arm permission to get what feels like wayyyy behind me. I kind of had to break up with my PGA buddy to get here; he insists I’m wrongheaded about transition and sequencing now, but I really feel like I have mostly passive(or maybe more like “responsive”) arms through transition and the strike for the first time ever. Am I off base? Included a draw and a fade with foam balls.
Always with thanks,
Zach
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Zach Fellman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Hi Tyler!
Maybe I should prioritize removing the sense of urgency from my progress? I feel like a tone deaf person learning to sing, in that none of these things are things my body is inclined to do, and beating my head against a wall doesn’t seem to help it do them faster. Gentle, detached patience would seem to be the ideal for me, as impossible as that sounds.
These are the latest results of head beating. I still like arms way behind in transition(my mental picture is Rahmbo when viewed from slightly overhead, like this), and I revisited the connecting oblique crunch to trail hip video- holy cats that hit different this time. I feel arms and legs extending at the same time, and on video my spine is extending too, so it’s all just like the old Gypsy woman said. I also have much more of a feel of ‘twisting up’ on a straight line with my body.
Comboing all those feels with free swinging supination gives me the ability to get to that position you demonstrate on the cover of your book while hitting the ball solidly and shallowly- I used to chunk these. It’s also enabled me to hit some pretty spiffy 30 yard yard wedges.
Gonna check out your last coaches’ call today; wish I could’ve been there.
Your pupil,
Zach
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Zach Fellman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
One can practice in the yard all one wants, but… here are a couple on course captures from today. Both shots were successful fades; the first was a groove and a half low but came out just fine. My main focuses at the moment are release related- trail side obliques and feeling a smooth gradual roll of the clubface through the strike. I’m hovering right around 40 for nine holes here lately.
May I ask what stands out to you overall? I see I’m still sluggish getting into the lead side in transition, and the trail side obliques are far from fully activated but maybe 20% there.
With gratitude,
Zach
Edit: also grabbed this 8 iron from early in the round. I’ll call that one a no-blique, but I think the trail side oblique has been the missing link in my chain!
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Zach Fellman
1 month, 3 weeks ago
Hi Tyler!
I’m finally going to do what you want us to do on the site and coach myself! Gonna look at me as I were someone else.
I had a really good ballstriking day today, and I feel like these swings accurately represent where my swing is.
I don’t hate the arm structure. To me the single biggest issue appears most in the F/O 3-wood: too much of my weight shift is accomplished by upper body lunge/fall in transition. If I were prescribing this to someone not me, I’d go pool noodle head awareness drill, Jackson 5, lower body slowly but early. What do you think, Professor?
In gratitude,
Zach
Shown:
PW
54 degree (70 yards)
7 iron
3 wood
Edit: please see my reply to this post for progress. Thank you!
Double edit: you can skip the stuff before this and save some time- I sense you don’t have much of that to spare ;)
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Zach Fellman
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Traveling down that same path, I’ve had to reassess my relationship with the ground, and uproot some very old bad concepts. I’d like to run my transition understanding past you, as well as a tai chi 10-2, if you’d be so kind. Thank you!
Zach
Edit: it occurs to me watching the tai chi move that I probably don’t still need to be doing the wipe with UD and T-Rex arms. I think I’m UD’ing just fine 🙄. Will address
Double edit(after looking at that delivery): in my quest to preserve more trail elbow bend at impact, I’ve been going with a “more is better” approach to trail elbow bend in delivery. Do you think it’s possible that I’ve been handicapping myself trying by to keep too much? When I let the elbow straighten more it allows me to get a much more level attitude with my shoulders, and it also allows my hands to get into that low “in the thigh” spot.
Always with thanks,
Zach
Triple edit: Down too long! In between P 5.5 and P6 the legs need to extend and the torso elevates, and it actually preserves hip hinge(and paradoxically trail elbow bend when I allow the arm to straighten into p6)! (Dawn driver vid)
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Tyler Ferrell
Coach
1 month, 2 weeks ago
I think being your own coach is the ultimate goal. One thing I'd caution is working on everything at once. When you first started with my site, your main goal was to fix the hook. It looks like that is much better, but it doesn't look like we've replaced it with a clear focus. I see driver swings, fairway wood, irons. I'm not sure which problem we are trying to solve. In general, I am trying to improve a big theme, such as: contact, direction, distance, trajectory etc. Or help a feeling I get on the course. (currently I'm working on a few things because I was feeling "lost" at the top of the swing).
So the down too long, trail elbow bend, UD, T-rex arms could all be relevant, but I think they need context. Once we have that goal, then we can hone in on a focus.
Happy Golfing,
Tyler
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Zach Fellman
1 month, 2 weeks ago
Thank you Tyler.
It’s still fixing the left ball, all these things tie in to that. I’ve been going from one thing to the next like a hummingbird to try and solve that equation, because nothing I’ve done has seemed to remove that miss from my repertoire. I’m under no illusions that I’ll never* hit it left, but I need to be able to know that if I do X Y and Z properly it won’t go left. That said, I’m hopeful now that I’ve isolated my clubface control issues down to two release elements: with the left side, it’s losing my shoulder’s internal rotation and that stretch feeling, which prevents me from achieving maximum width and thus slowing rate of closure in the followthrough, and with my right side, a lack of oblique crunch that causes me to lose my bend in wrist and elbow and gives me that throwy, disconnected look. I’d never thought to combine those before, but now I’m feeling more able to integrate those two things simultaneously(along with other elements like low to high, turtle shell, etc) into my strike and the results are very encouraging.
Tl;dr still fighting that left ball
Yours,
Zach
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Zach Fellman
1 month, 1 week ago
Tyler, I think I may have done it. I may have solved the left ball.
Happy Easter! I’ll check back in after I have more definitive results.
Yours,
Zach
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Tyler Ferrell
Coach
1 month ago
Hi Zach,
That would be amazing, I'm always cautious claiming I've conquered a swing issue. So my personal rule is that if I have 3 good/progressing practices, then I'm on to something. And if I lose it, and get it back with a similar feel 3 times then I'm likely on the right track.
I like your description of the shoulders to the left miss, was that the eureka moment?
Happy Golfing,
Tyler
PS - Looking better follow through
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Zach Fellman
4 weeks ago
Hi Tyler!
It was one of the eureka moments, for sure. I think my biggest overall eureka moment wasn’t a moment, but kind of a slow dawning realization that I don’t have just one left miss. There’s steep diggy left with short irons, early bottom-out upswing left snapper with driver, big sweepy left with mid irons when my path gets too inside... I have left misses like Eskimos have words for snow. But from what I can tell the Big Bad, as Buffy the Vampire Slayer used to say, is a transition sequencing element that’s easiest to see at regular speed with the two beach 3 woods (pardon the pull cut, but the second one was what I was looking for)- when I miss real bad, I’m turning my upper body like a chunk of wood first thing coming down. Starting from my lower body seems to remove the worst, catastrophic misses.
The other elements all follow from that, but I like to think I’ve tracked them down fairly exhaustively and placed them on a permanent watch list.
I’m acutely aware of the invitation to disaster posed by that saying that one has “conquered” a swing issue, but I’m five rounds in and it appears to be at least in remission. From today I have a pull cut, a push draw, and a face on that will bring me to to my next thread.
For now anyway, I fondly retire this one.
Thank you as always for your patience and time.
Your student,
Zach