Swing Review - “funky” swing

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Tyler Ferrell Coach 5 years, 5 months ago
Swing Review - “funky” swing

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Mark Johnson 5 years, 5 months ago
Many thanks for this Tyler. Increasing ulnar deviation makes complete sense. Thinking this well help with both increasing lead wrist flexion and helping maintain height through impact. My question would be whether to work on the backswing with the goal to reduce how much the trail arm works behind the body? Should we be looking to train the wipe movement and if so would you work on the ulnar deviation first? The single arm release videos are on there way. Interested to hear your thoughts, the lack of ulnar stands out more, especially after watching today great video on the finesse wedge seated release drill.
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Mark Johnson 5 years, 5 months ago
A few thoughts on the single arm releases. Lead arm: -Arm works more interdependently of body. Lacks supination. Plenty of forwards shaft lean but lack of ulnar deviation. Hand path works down and across through impact. Trail arm: - Better pronation compared to how the lead arm supinates. Better arm/body connection than lead arm. Lacks ulnar deviation
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Tyler Ferrell Coach 5 years, 5 months ago
Here are some thoughts on the single arm releases.
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Mark Johnson 5 years, 4 months ago
Thank you Tyler. One question. When Sam is making the trail arm only swing you said that if he placed his lead hand back on the club the left arm would be working really steep. I’m not quite sure what you mean by this if you explain further it would be appreciated. Please find a couple recent videos below. I also got some Hack motion data for lead wrist. Seems like there is plenty of ulnar deviation which surprised me a little. You can also see him starting to extend a little too early. Just waiting on some updated single arm drills (we are back in lockdown!) Many thanks
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Tyler Ferrell Coach 5 years, 4 months ago
I think you're making some good changes. Take a look at the before and after impact position of the swings you have posted. The second image is him at impact with the trail hand only. If you put his left arm on, because of the position (retraction) of his shoulder blade at this point, the left arm would be completely covered by his chest. Not a lot of side bend and the upper body is more rotated As far as the ulnar deviation, there are a couple of things to consider there too. I don't know what the ulnar deviation patterns look like on Hack Motion. But on AMM, typically the more obvious ulnar deviation pattern is the timing of the wrists unhinging and rehinging after impact. With the rehinging aspect, it shows up more with the trail wrist. With the lead wrist, the graph you posted shows a good bit of hinging during the downswing. Which means it still fits in the "could use ulnar deviation training" pattern. I wouldn't go just off the lead wrist graph to decide if someone could benefit from ulnar deviation training. Also, the amount (less the pattern, but more the amount) of ulnar deviation can vary depending on the grip orientation.
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Mark Johnson 5 years, 4 months ago
Thanks for this Tyler, much appreciated. I have worked with another student who had the same look of increasing hinge on the downswing but a different look on video. The student made some impressive instant gains by reducing this increase in hinge. I've attached the Hack Motion before and after graphs. The whole downswing and release was a smoother more gradual curve on the graph. Presume my 'funky swing' student will benefit from the same change?
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Tyler Ferrell Coach 5 years, 4 months ago
Looks like a good change. That would likely improve sequencing and turf contact and help minimize pulls :) If the funky swing can do it, then he'd likely get similar improvement. I'd be concerned that he might get some fat shots, but hopefully, he can work through it if that happens. So yes, if he can make the change as easily, then he'll see some predictable benefits!
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Mark Johnson 5 years, 4 months ago
Great, many thanks Tyler. I’ll let you know how it goes.

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