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Rethinking Torso Rotation Test

This video discusses the importance of spine and shoulder blade movement for optimizing your golf swing technique. Gain valuable insights into enhancing your performance on the course by mastering the coordination between upper and lower body rotation.

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This video discusses the importance of spine and shoulder blade movement for optimizing your golf swing technique. Gain valuable insights into enhancing your performance on the course by mastering the coordination between upper and lower body rotation.

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Video Transcript
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This kind of video is rethinking the TPI torso rotation test.

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So I just wanted to do this discussion for some of my coaches as well as some

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of my students

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who are kind of really into how the body moves, not just what the club is doing

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.

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One of the one of the default tests that TPI is used is the torso and the pel

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vis disassociation

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test.

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And for those of you who aren't familiar, you wouldn't use the sticks.

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00:00:35.400 --> 00:00:38.040
I'm just doing that to kind of highlight and create a visual.

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But if I had club across my shoulders, club across my chest, or club across my

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shoulders,

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club across my hips, the first test would be the ability to rotate your lower

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body without

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moving your upper body.

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And then the second test would be the ability to rotate your upper body without

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moving your

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lower body.

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And there's a number of different ways you could grade it and struggle with it.

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But what I demonstrated there was decent.

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I was able to move the lower body without moving the upper body and upper body

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without moving

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the lower body.

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Now, as I've really been digging more into the spine and the shoulder blade

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movement,

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it's got me rethinking the importance of especially the upper body or the torso

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rotation component

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to that.

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So this movement here of rotating the torso is actually mostly rotating my scap

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ula girdle

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or rotating my shoulder blades.

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And it's one of my beliefs that that's one of the power sources that causes

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people to

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have a whole host of problems.

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If I get up to the top of my swing and my upper body overtakes my lower body

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too quickly in

37
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the downswing, or my shoulder blade tends to go up and forward kind of like

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this, as

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opposed to getting up to the top of the swing and rotating more from the lower

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body, keeping

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the shoulders kind of back and using my spine and my core to bring my upper

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body into position.

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There I still have a little bit of closure compared to my shoulders to my hips,

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even

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if my spine is back to a fairly or my lower spine is back to a fairly neutral

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spot.

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So as I'm rethinking it, I think a better test would be kind of looking at an

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ascending

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00:02:20.760 --> 00:02:22.120
level of rotation.

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So I'm okay with the first part where we're going to try to move our lower body

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without

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moving our upper body.

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But then now I'm going to try to move that higher up and I'm going to try and

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rotate

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my chest without moving my shoulders and my hips are going to move with my

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chest, but

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you can see this is very different than that and it's slightly different than

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this.

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I'm trying to move higher up in my spine and that takes a lot more kind of rib

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00:02:51.590 --> 00:02:52.480
movement

61
00:02:52.480 --> 00:02:57.280
and shoulder blade disassociation and core activity.

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So I think that that's a little bit more valuable because that relates closer

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to what

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00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:05.320
we're trying to do with the spine and the golf swing.

65
00:03:05.320 --> 00:03:09.660
So as we get up towards the top of the swing, we want to really disassociate

66
00:03:09.660 --> 00:03:10.720
the lower body

67
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and the core while using the shoulder blades to help get the arms more in front

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kind of

69
00:03:17.720 --> 00:03:23.090
into a delivery position more like this, where I'm spring loaded and ready to

70
00:03:23.090 --> 00:03:23.680
go into

71
00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:32.090
more of this negative torsion or extension combined with rotation and side bend

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00:03:32.090 --> 00:03:32.600
as I'm

73
00:03:32.600 --> 00:03:33.600
going through.

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00:03:33.600 --> 00:03:40.070
That's kind of the hallmark of the pivot that I think really differentiates the

75
00:03:40.070 --> 00:03:40.920
elite level

76
00:03:40.920 --> 00:03:43.120
golf swings from the amateur golf swing.

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00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.430
The classic amateur golf swing is a little bit more of hit with the shoulders

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00:03:46.430 --> 00:03:46.840
kind of

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on top in a steep way and the classic tour model would be more using the lower

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body and

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core and kind of letting the shoulder blades lag behind.

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So if you're doing the exercises or if you've gone through these tests and you

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00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:02.520
think it's

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a great sign that you can move your shoulder blades independently but you're

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00:04:05.110 --> 00:04:05.600
struggling

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00:04:05.600 --> 00:04:09.660
with your lower body, that actually might be more of a warning sign and you

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00:04:09.660 --> 00:04:10.440
should really

88
00:04:10.440 --> 00:04:15.810
work on getting your ribcage especially from about T6 or like the shoulder

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00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:16.640
blade level

90
00:04:16.640 --> 00:04:21.880
down, really getting control of that area of the spine, that's where the engine

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00:04:21.880 --> 00:04:22.160
is and

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that's what separates elite level spine movement from amateur level spine

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00:04:27.570 --> 00:04:28.600
movement.

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Rethinking Torso Rotation Test

This video discusses the importance of spine and shoulder blade movement for optimizing your golf swing technique. Gain valuable insights into enhancing your performance on the course by mastering the coordination between upper and lower body rotation.

Show more

This video discusses the importance of spine and shoulder blade movement for optimizing your golf swing technique. Gain valuable insights into enhancing your performance on the course by mastering the coordination between upper and lower body rotation.

Hide
Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.620
This kind of video is rethinking the TPI torso rotation test.

2
00:00:10.620 --> 00:00:16.750
So I just wanted to do this discussion for some of my coaches as well as some

3
00:00:16.750 --> 00:00:17.680
of my students

4
00:00:17.680 --> 00:00:23.800
who are kind of really into how the body moves, not just what the club is doing

5
00:00:23.800 --> 00:00:24.160
.

6
00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:29.410
One of the one of the default tests that TPI is used is the torso and the pel

7
00:00:29.410 --> 00:00:31.000
vis disassociation

8
00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:32.000
test.

9
00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:35.400
And for those of you who aren't familiar, you wouldn't use the sticks.

10
00:00:35.400 --> 00:00:38.040
I'm just doing that to kind of highlight and create a visual.

11
00:00:38.040 --> 00:00:42.220
But if I had club across my shoulders, club across my chest, or club across my

12
00:00:42.220 --> 00:00:43.160
shoulders,

13
00:00:43.160 --> 00:00:47.630
club across my hips, the first test would be the ability to rotate your lower

14
00:00:47.630 --> 00:00:48.280
body without

15
00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:49.720
moving your upper body.

16
00:00:49.720 --> 00:00:53.620
And then the second test would be the ability to rotate your upper body without

17
00:00:53.620 --> 00:00:54.160
moving your

18
00:00:54.160 --> 00:00:55.960
lower body.

19
00:00:55.960 --> 00:01:01.000
And there's a number of different ways you could grade it and struggle with it.

20
00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.160
But what I demonstrated there was decent.

21
00:01:03.160 --> 00:01:05.730
I was able to move the lower body without moving the upper body and upper body

22
00:01:05.730 --> 00:01:06.400
without moving

23
00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:07.400
the lower body.

24
00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:13.450
Now, as I've really been digging more into the spine and the shoulder blade

25
00:01:13.450 --> 00:01:14.320
movement,

26
00:01:14.320 --> 00:01:19.750
it's got me rethinking the importance of especially the upper body or the torso

27
00:01:19.750 --> 00:01:21.240
rotation component

28
00:01:21.240 --> 00:01:22.360
to that.

29
00:01:22.360 --> 00:01:29.420
So this movement here of rotating the torso is actually mostly rotating my scap

30
00:01:29.420 --> 00:01:30.480
ula girdle

31
00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:32.600
or rotating my shoulder blades.

32
00:01:32.600 --> 00:01:37.850
And it's one of my beliefs that that's one of the power sources that causes

33
00:01:37.850 --> 00:01:38.560
people to

34
00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.040
have a whole host of problems.

35
00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:45.570
If I get up to the top of my swing and my upper body overtakes my lower body

36
00:01:45.570 --> 00:01:46.680
too quickly in

37
00:01:46.680 --> 00:01:52.220
the downswing, or my shoulder blade tends to go up and forward kind of like

38
00:01:52.220 --> 00:01:52.840
this, as

39
00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:57.090
opposed to getting up to the top of the swing and rotating more from the lower

40
00:01:57.090 --> 00:01:57.800
body, keeping

41
00:01:57.800 --> 00:02:02.610
the shoulders kind of back and using my spine and my core to bring my upper

42
00:02:02.610 --> 00:02:04.440
body into position.

43
00:02:04.440 --> 00:02:08.440
There I still have a little bit of closure compared to my shoulders to my hips,

44
00:02:08.440 --> 00:02:08.800
even

45
00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:14.050
if my spine is back to a fairly or my lower spine is back to a fairly neutral

46
00:02:14.050 --> 00:02:14.700
spot.

47
00:02:14.700 --> 00:02:19.950
So as I'm rethinking it, I think a better test would be kind of looking at an

48
00:02:19.950 --> 00:02:20.760
ascending

49
00:02:20.760 --> 00:02:22.120
level of rotation.

50
00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:25.900
So I'm okay with the first part where we're going to try to move our lower body

51
00:02:25.900 --> 00:02:26.440
without

52
00:02:26.440 --> 00:02:27.880
moving our upper body.

53
00:02:27.880 --> 00:02:33.130
But then now I'm going to try to move that higher up and I'm going to try and

54
00:02:33.130 --> 00:02:33.520
rotate

55
00:02:33.520 --> 00:02:39.350
my chest without moving my shoulders and my hips are going to move with my

56
00:02:39.350 --> 00:02:40.240
chest, but

57
00:02:40.240 --> 00:02:45.400
you can see this is very different than that and it's slightly different than

58
00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:45.720
this.

59
00:02:45.720 --> 00:02:51.590
I'm trying to move higher up in my spine and that takes a lot more kind of rib

60
00:02:51.590 --> 00:02:52.480
movement

61
00:02:52.480 --> 00:02:57.280
and shoulder blade disassociation and core activity.

62
00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:01.390
So I think that that's a little bit more valuable because that relates closer

63
00:03:01.390 --> 00:03:01.840
to what

64
00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:05.320
we're trying to do with the spine and the golf swing.

65
00:03:05.320 --> 00:03:09.660
So as we get up towards the top of the swing, we want to really disassociate

66
00:03:09.660 --> 00:03:10.720
the lower body

67
00:03:10.720 --> 00:03:17.030
and the core while using the shoulder blades to help get the arms more in front

68
00:03:17.030 --> 00:03:17.720
kind of

69
00:03:17.720 --> 00:03:23.090
into a delivery position more like this, where I'm spring loaded and ready to

70
00:03:23.090 --> 00:03:23.680
go into

71
00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:32.090
more of this negative torsion or extension combined with rotation and side bend

72
00:03:32.090 --> 00:03:32.600
as I'm

73
00:03:32.600 --> 00:03:33.600
going through.

74
00:03:33.600 --> 00:03:40.070
That's kind of the hallmark of the pivot that I think really differentiates the

75
00:03:40.070 --> 00:03:40.920
elite level

76
00:03:40.920 --> 00:03:43.120
golf swings from the amateur golf swing.

77
00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.430
The classic amateur golf swing is a little bit more of hit with the shoulders

78
00:03:46.430 --> 00:03:46.840
kind of

79
00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:52.890
on top in a steep way and the classic tour model would be more using the lower

80
00:03:52.890 --> 00:03:53.480
body and

81
00:03:53.480 --> 00:03:56.840
core and kind of letting the shoulder blades lag behind.

82
00:03:56.840 --> 00:04:02.080
So if you're doing the exercises or if you've gone through these tests and you

83
00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:02.520
think it's

84
00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:05.110
a great sign that you can move your shoulder blades independently but you're

85
00:04:05.110 --> 00:04:05.600
struggling

86
00:04:05.600 --> 00:04:09.660
with your lower body, that actually might be more of a warning sign and you

87
00:04:09.660 --> 00:04:10.440
should really

88
00:04:10.440 --> 00:04:15.810
work on getting your ribcage especially from about T6 or like the shoulder

89
00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:16.640
blade level

90
00:04:16.640 --> 00:04:21.880
down, really getting control of that area of the spine, that's where the engine

91
00:04:21.880 --> 00:04:22.160
is and

92
00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:27.570
that's what separates elite level spine movement from amateur level spine

93
00:04:27.570 --> 00:04:28.600
movement.

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