WEBVTT

00:00:01.429 --> 00:00:04.470
okay so I appreciate everyone joining me

00:00:04.470 --> 00:00:06.930
for the first of hopefully many of these

00:00:06.930 --> 00:00:10.980
little live Q&A sessions I've got a

00:00:10.980 --> 00:00:14.040
bunch of questions that came in through

00:00:14.040 --> 00:00:16.890
email so I'll I'll address some of those

00:00:16.890 --> 00:00:18.779
but I'll be checking out the the chat

00:00:18.779 --> 00:00:21.990
the whole time so please you know if

00:00:21.990 --> 00:00:23.880
something comes up if I say something

00:00:23.880 --> 00:00:25.740
you want it clarified or it relates to a

00:00:25.740 --> 00:00:28.470
question you might have please type it

00:00:28.470 --> 00:00:31.590
in I've had a number it looks like as

00:00:31.590 --> 00:00:34.290
far as a general theme it looks like the

00:00:34.290 --> 00:00:38.870
majority of the questions are related to

00:00:38.870 --> 00:00:41.790
transition so we'll kind of make that

00:00:41.790 --> 00:00:44.879
the theme of of today's little session

00:00:44.879 --> 00:00:47.610
I'm planning for you know somewhere

00:00:47.610 --> 00:00:50.100
around 20 minutes or so but if questions

00:00:50.100 --> 00:00:52.829
keep coming in will will go a little bit

00:00:52.829 --> 00:00:55.500
longer and like I said hopefully this is

00:00:55.500 --> 00:01:00.750
the first of many so I'll uh I'll jump

00:01:00.750 --> 00:01:04.949
right in one of the one of the questions

00:01:04.949 --> 00:01:09.500
that I see popping up is relating to

00:01:09.500 --> 00:01:13.200
transition of of the arms and there were

00:01:13.200 --> 00:01:14.810
a couple different questions related to

00:01:14.810 --> 00:01:17.700
whether it's you know the direction that

00:01:17.700 --> 00:01:19.560
you're pulling whether down versus up or

00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.680
the timing there there seems to be a

00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:26.659
movement in golf instruction we're

00:01:26.659 --> 00:01:29.850
creating too much lag creating too much

00:01:29.850 --> 00:01:32.009
leg late in the downswing is being

00:01:32.009 --> 00:01:35.280
advocated as a bad thing so I I thought

00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:37.799
that I'd just kind of discussed that

00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:44.520
from my perspective okay so in a lot of

00:01:44.520 --> 00:01:48.360
other sports sequencing and rhythm are

00:01:48.360 --> 00:01:51.930
largely used as ways to coordinate how

00:01:51.930 --> 00:01:53.460
you get up certain parts of your body to

00:01:53.460 --> 00:01:57.719
work together right so in golf the the

00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:00.869
angle of the club that lag angle has

00:02:00.869 --> 00:02:03.780
been I don't want to say overdone but

00:02:03.780 --> 00:02:06.000
it's been served it's been used as a

00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:11.510
reference so golfers who tend to have

00:02:11.510 --> 00:02:13.080
tend to have

00:02:13.080 --> 00:02:17.220
more of this look of lag tend to hit it

00:02:17.220 --> 00:02:21.120
further but what happened was we would

00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.040
see the look of lag and golf instructors

00:02:23.040 --> 00:02:25.770
would tell golf students to essentially

00:02:25.770 --> 00:02:29.010
try and increase or create more leg I

00:02:29.010 --> 00:02:31.860
have a few videos on the site relating

00:02:31.860 --> 00:02:34.530
to leg that that might help clarify and

00:02:34.530 --> 00:02:37.110
show different perspectives on it but

00:02:37.110 --> 00:02:40.260
one of the one of the big points for me

00:02:40.260 --> 00:02:43.590
to to address is that when you try to

00:02:43.590 --> 00:02:47.160
increase the angle when you try to pull

00:02:47.160 --> 00:02:49.470
the club back like so what typically

00:02:49.470 --> 00:02:51.330
happens is that lead wrist is going to

00:02:51.330 --> 00:02:54.120
go into extension when that lead wrist

00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:56.520
goes into extension that's going to have

00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.130
an effect of opening the club face and

00:02:59.130 --> 00:03:03.030
so what'll happen is golfers who try to

00:03:03.030 --> 00:03:05.940
hold and increase the leg tend to get in

00:03:05.940 --> 00:03:09.209
a situation where the clubface is in an

00:03:09.209 --> 00:03:11.820
open position late in the downswing

00:03:11.820 --> 00:03:14.250
well if the club is in an open position

00:03:14.250 --> 00:03:16.080
late in the downswing you're gonna have

00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:18.810
to do something pretty dramatic to try

00:03:18.810 --> 00:03:20.970
to close it what most people end up

00:03:20.970 --> 00:03:23.310
doing is they stall their body rotation

00:03:23.310 --> 00:03:25.769
because body rotation delays the closing

00:03:25.769 --> 00:03:29.400
of the clubface and then they cast the

00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:31.950
wrist or they they kind of straighten

00:03:31.950 --> 00:03:33.090
the arms or they get into more of a

00:03:33.090 --> 00:03:35.760
scoop pattern because scooping will

00:03:35.760 --> 00:03:38.390
close the club face gets that two point

00:03:38.390 --> 00:03:41.640
more so here it's pointing off to the

00:03:41.640 --> 00:03:44.040
right there it's pointing more to the

00:03:44.040 --> 00:03:45.690
left so a scoop

00:03:45.690 --> 00:03:49.170
while many many have talked about a

00:03:49.170 --> 00:03:51.480
scoop as holding the face open it does

00:03:51.480 --> 00:03:53.519
actually close the face it just doesn't

00:03:53.519 --> 00:03:59.040
do it rotationally so the one of the

00:03:59.040 --> 00:04:02.760
other questions relating to okay if leg

00:04:02.760 --> 00:04:06.720
too long can be a problem then what's

00:04:06.720 --> 00:04:08.880
the what's the intention so what what

00:04:08.880 --> 00:04:10.410
are players trying to do when they

00:04:10.410 --> 00:04:12.269
create a look of lag if they're not

00:04:12.269 --> 00:04:15.000
trying to create a lookalike I like to

00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:18.180
think of it more as proper sequencing is

00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:20.690
going to help create the look of lag and

00:04:20.690 --> 00:04:24.900
soft enough arms will also help create

00:04:24.900 --> 00:04:26.550
that look of leg

00:04:26.550 --> 00:04:29.039
I go back to looking at other sports and

00:04:29.039 --> 00:04:30.930
if you're teaching someone to throw

00:04:30.930 --> 00:04:33.210
you're never really going to teach them

00:04:33.210 --> 00:04:36.240
to try and maximally extend that wrist

00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.419
and hold the wrist back as you're going

00:04:39.419 --> 00:04:42.060
to throw what you would teach is leading

00:04:42.060 --> 00:04:45.090
with the lower body following with the

00:04:45.090 --> 00:04:48.539
the shoulder and then lastly the arm so

00:04:48.539 --> 00:04:52.020
sequencing will obviously have a big

00:04:52.020 --> 00:04:54.960
effect in how well you're able to get

00:04:54.960 --> 00:04:56.849
that look of leg

00:04:56.849 --> 00:04:59.810
not just actively holding the wrist back

00:04:59.810 --> 00:05:03.479
holding the wrist back to aggressively

00:05:03.479 --> 00:05:06.300
will trigger some signals to stop your

00:05:06.300 --> 00:05:08.729
ribcage to help stabilize the arms so

00:05:08.729 --> 00:05:10.830
that they can apply more force and so

00:05:10.830 --> 00:05:14.129
that combination usually creates face

00:05:14.129 --> 00:05:15.389
control issues down at the bottom

00:05:15.389 --> 00:05:18.180
because as I said if I increase that

00:05:18.180 --> 00:05:20.460
extension of the wrist I increase or I

00:05:20.460 --> 00:05:22.889
open up the face compared to the past so

00:05:22.889 --> 00:05:24.810
then what happens is I get down to the

00:05:24.810 --> 00:05:26.849
bottom the club face is open and I have

00:05:26.849 --> 00:05:29.159
to close it in an incredibly fast amount

00:05:29.159 --> 00:05:33.270
of time and it uh it creates a lot of

00:05:33.270 --> 00:05:35.849
variability the metaphor that I learned

00:05:35.849 --> 00:05:38.490
from John Hardy that I think is

00:05:38.490 --> 00:05:41.340
brilliant is it's like if you were to

00:05:41.340 --> 00:05:43.949
turn up the sensitivity of your mouse

00:05:43.949 --> 00:05:46.319
right so if you if you've got your mouse

00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:48.930
and you make like a little movement but

00:05:48.930 --> 00:05:50.159
the cursor goes flying all the way

00:05:50.159 --> 00:05:52.380
across the screen you have to be really

00:05:52.380 --> 00:05:54.270
precise with how you're going to move

00:05:54.270 --> 00:05:56.879
the mouse now what we want to do with

00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:58.440
our golf swing is we want to turn down

00:05:58.440 --> 00:06:01.469
the sensitivity of the mouse we want to

00:06:01.469 --> 00:06:03.870
turn down the sensitivity of the

00:06:03.870 --> 00:06:07.080
clubface closing or or opening but

00:06:07.080 --> 00:06:08.129
basically we want to turn down the

00:06:08.129 --> 00:06:11.039
sensitivity of our movements to - how it

00:06:11.039 --> 00:06:12.090
relates to where the club face is

00:06:12.090 --> 00:06:14.340
pointing so that we don't have to be

00:06:14.340 --> 00:06:17.069
quite as precise as when that mouse

00:06:17.069 --> 00:06:20.789
sensitivity is turned way up because we

00:06:20.789 --> 00:06:22.949
all know that when you get under the gun

00:06:22.949 --> 00:06:25.159
when you get a little bit of pressure

00:06:25.159 --> 00:06:28.110
you're gonna have probably some tougher

00:06:28.110 --> 00:06:30.150
times keeping the same rhythm keeping

00:06:30.150 --> 00:06:36.620
the same level of intensity okay so

00:06:36.620 --> 00:06:40.169
another question as it relates

00:06:40.169 --> 00:06:45.330
to this transition all right as it

00:06:45.330 --> 00:06:48.120
relates to the transition would be you

00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.060
see that some instructors okay let's say

00:06:51.060 --> 00:06:53.909
a common problem is getting the arms

00:06:53.909 --> 00:06:58.949
behind you in a stuck position right so

00:06:58.949 --> 00:07:01.379
some instructors advocate getting the

00:07:01.379 --> 00:07:03.449
arms back in front so kind of holding

00:07:03.449 --> 00:07:05.629
the body back like saying you've got to

00:07:05.629 --> 00:07:08.819
overactive legs or your lower body is

00:07:08.819 --> 00:07:11.939
too active and you need to quiet that a

00:07:11.939 --> 00:07:16.259
bit you need to slow down your body so

00:07:16.259 --> 00:07:18.749
that the arms can catch up and then you

00:07:18.749 --> 00:07:20.610
have other instructors who say no you

00:07:20.610 --> 00:07:24.569
don't want to quiet your lower body what

00:07:24.569 --> 00:07:26.789
you'd rather do is you want to use the

00:07:26.789 --> 00:07:30.449
lower body differently so this one

00:07:30.449 --> 00:07:32.189
relates more to how you're creating

00:07:32.189 --> 00:07:35.810
speed in that transition rather than the

00:07:35.810 --> 00:07:40.020
the actual effect of the clubface as we

00:07:40.020 --> 00:07:41.069
discussed in kind of that first

00:07:41.069 --> 00:07:46.050
transition segment so ideally you want

00:07:46.050 --> 00:07:47.849
to be using your body as a whole team

00:07:47.849 --> 00:07:50.370
right you want to be using your legs

00:07:50.370 --> 00:07:52.800
with your core with your ribcage with

00:07:52.800 --> 00:07:54.449
your shoulders with your arms and if

00:07:54.449 --> 00:07:58.080
you're it's not so much that your lower

00:07:58.080 --> 00:08:01.949
body gets too too active what happens is

00:08:01.949 --> 00:08:04.919
if your lower body really kind of spins

00:08:04.919 --> 00:08:07.770
out of the shot your ribcage gets

00:08:07.770 --> 00:08:10.560
disconnected from your your pelvis and

00:08:10.560 --> 00:08:12.539
so what usually happens is then the

00:08:12.539 --> 00:08:14.430
ribcage gets disconnected and then the

00:08:14.430 --> 00:08:16.409
arms kind of go on their own so instead

00:08:16.409 --> 00:08:18.810
of having a link between the lower body

00:08:18.810 --> 00:08:21.719
the pelvis the ribcage and the arms you

00:08:21.719 --> 00:08:25.889
have like a broken connection system and

00:08:25.889 --> 00:08:27.330
so usually those broken connection

00:08:27.330 --> 00:08:32.219
systems cause contact problems or timing

00:08:32.219 --> 00:08:33.930
problems down at the bottom of the swing

00:08:33.930 --> 00:08:39.389
so the two solutions are the one camp of

00:08:39.389 --> 00:08:43.019
basically okay if you get your arms more

00:08:43.019 --> 00:08:44.880
in front of your body that typically

00:08:44.880 --> 00:08:47.279
requires you to connect your ribcage and

00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:48.540
your pelvis better so you're you're

00:08:48.540 --> 00:08:50.730
using your abs you're using your core in

00:08:50.730 --> 00:08:53.810
order to get those arms more in front so

00:08:53.810 --> 00:08:57.880
helps with the sequencing and oftentimes

00:08:57.880 --> 00:09:00.770
you're not really gonna slow down your

00:09:00.770 --> 00:09:02.540
lower body quite as much as you think

00:09:02.540 --> 00:09:04.370
you're just speeding up your upper body

00:09:04.370 --> 00:09:06.440
to kind of get it to match match up a

00:09:06.440 --> 00:09:09.200
little bit better the the other option

00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:11.720
would be you take someone whose lower

00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:14.029
body is getting too active oftentimes

00:09:14.029 --> 00:09:16.070
when it gets too active it has either

00:09:16.070 --> 00:09:18.200
too much of a thrust component or it has

00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.600
too much of a slide component so you

00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:23.150
teach instead of actively going that way

00:09:23.150 --> 00:09:26.570
to actively stay a little bit more in

00:09:26.570 --> 00:09:28.970
the box or or keep the pelvis away from

00:09:28.970 --> 00:09:31.820
the golf ball and to have more of a

00:09:31.820 --> 00:09:34.220
rotation component because again most of

00:09:34.220 --> 00:09:36.680
the muscles that are going to rotate the

00:09:36.680 --> 00:09:38.900
bot the upper body with the lower body

00:09:38.900 --> 00:09:44.080
are connecting the ribcage to the pelvis

00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:50.270
so if you're I'm a big fan because I

00:09:50.270 --> 00:09:51.440
know most you're thinking well which one

00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:54.680
do I try I'm a big fan of testing so I

00:09:54.680 --> 00:09:57.550
like to try both and see which one

00:09:57.550 --> 00:10:01.100
relates to your specific movement better

00:10:01.100 --> 00:10:04.700
right so if you if you do the upper body

00:10:04.700 --> 00:10:05.810
one

00:10:05.810 --> 00:10:08.570
let's talk kind of more dangers so like

00:10:08.570 --> 00:10:10.580
why would I not want to do a certain

00:10:10.580 --> 00:10:12.440
pattern some golfers when they try to

00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.290
get the upper body more in front lose a

00:10:15.290 --> 00:10:17.540
lot of their path control and at like a

00:10:17.540 --> 00:10:19.610
downswing checkpoint instead of the club

00:10:19.610 --> 00:10:21.110
being in line with the hands it gets

00:10:21.110 --> 00:10:24.200
outside the hands or they're pulling

00:10:24.200 --> 00:10:28.280
down by using instead of getting the

00:10:28.280 --> 00:10:31.580
arms in front by using and the shoulders

00:10:31.580 --> 00:10:34.430
they'll pull it down using the wrist and

00:10:34.430 --> 00:10:36.890
they'll tend to get that lead wrist into

00:10:36.890 --> 00:10:38.900
a little bit more extension position so

00:10:38.900 --> 00:10:41.690
trying to get those arms in front could

00:10:41.690 --> 00:10:44.360
potentially cause some path issues or

00:10:44.360 --> 00:10:48.260
some face issues as far as the getting

00:10:48.260 --> 00:10:52.910
more more turning a lot of that I'm a

00:10:52.910 --> 00:10:54.950
big fan of matching pieces so matching

00:10:54.950 --> 00:10:56.690
your steeps in your shallows and if a

00:10:56.690 --> 00:10:59.750
slide and an extension so an overactive

00:10:59.750 --> 00:11:01.790
lower body tend to create shallow

00:11:01.790 --> 00:11:03.620
patterns then what will happen is

00:11:03.620 --> 00:11:04.880
sometimes if you take those patterns

00:11:04.880 --> 00:11:06.920
away the club

00:11:06.920 --> 00:11:09.050
get steep it'll be a pure path problem

00:11:09.050 --> 00:11:10.190
the club will just get a little bit

00:11:10.190 --> 00:11:14.120
steeper as it enters the release and so

00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:15.829
what you have to do is you have to give

00:11:15.829 --> 00:11:19.820
it a separate a separate shallow or a

00:11:19.820 --> 00:11:22.100
new movement to balance out the pattern

00:11:22.100 --> 00:11:23.720
because we took away some form of

00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:25.970
shallow you got to add one back in or

00:11:25.970 --> 00:11:29.329
else you're gonna be steep the most

00:11:29.329 --> 00:11:32.540
common one which actually gets to one of

00:11:32.540 --> 00:11:34.910
the other questions which is I did a

00:11:34.910 --> 00:11:37.160
video on cello position shallow

00:11:37.160 --> 00:11:39.070
movements and there was a question about

00:11:39.070 --> 00:11:42.139
Fred Couples like what movements is he

00:11:42.139 --> 00:11:46.880
doing so the if you keep your body more

00:11:46.880 --> 00:11:48.529
in the box and you're really kind of

00:11:48.529 --> 00:11:50.660
powering it with the body then your arms

00:11:50.660 --> 00:11:52.040
have to provide some of the shallow or

00:11:52.040 --> 00:11:54.860
else you would get steep and so the two

00:11:54.860 --> 00:11:58.190
main movements that you'll see on 3d are

00:11:58.190 --> 00:12:01.370
or at least on a mm3d systems you'll see

00:12:01.370 --> 00:12:04.579
a pronation of the lead wrist so it'll

00:12:04.579 --> 00:12:08.750
rotate this way about 10 maybe up to 15

00:12:08.750 --> 00:12:14.269
degrees and the tricky one is the you'll

00:12:14.269 --> 00:12:16.399
see a pronation of the trail wrist and

00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:18.380
an extension of the trail wrist so

00:12:18.380 --> 00:12:21.560
you'll actually see the trail wrist go

00:12:21.560 --> 00:12:25.490
like that and I know that if I see that

00:12:25.490 --> 00:12:27.320
pattern that's a sign that there

00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.170
shallowing from that trail shoulder but

00:12:30.170 --> 00:12:32.779
unfortunately the shoulders are really

00:12:32.779 --> 00:12:37.040
tricky to measure so you have to you

00:12:37.040 --> 00:12:39.920
have to really coordinate or you have to

00:12:39.920 --> 00:12:43.310
interpret the graphs so when this is

00:12:43.310 --> 00:12:45.079
going that way what that usually means

00:12:45.079 --> 00:12:47.390
is that the shoulder was going more like

00:12:47.390 --> 00:12:49.100
that and it's that shoulder external

00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:51.410
rotation and adduction that kind of

00:12:51.410 --> 00:12:53.930
helps create the force on the club that

00:12:53.930 --> 00:12:58.339
gets the club to drop behind when I when

00:12:58.339 --> 00:13:00.350
I see a golfer that I think is too

00:13:00.350 --> 00:13:03.560
shallow what usually happens because I

00:13:03.560 --> 00:13:05.540
can sorry I'm answering Jason's question

00:13:05.540 --> 00:13:08.480
that popped up so when when I see a

00:13:08.480 --> 00:13:10.699
golfer that is considered too shallow

00:13:10.699 --> 00:13:15.410
what's usually happened is that the the

00:13:15.410 --> 00:13:18.430
shallow movements from the body are

00:13:18.430 --> 00:13:20.579
preventing some of the

00:13:20.579 --> 00:13:22.529
low point control movements that I would

00:13:22.529 --> 00:13:24.360
like to see during the release basically

00:13:24.360 --> 00:13:26.489
usually a golfer who gets too shallow is

00:13:26.489 --> 00:13:28.589
going to have either too much side Bend

00:13:28.589 --> 00:13:31.170
or too much extension and both of those

00:13:31.170 --> 00:13:35.160
are going to prevent the ribcage and

00:13:35.160 --> 00:13:37.319
thoracic rotation through the shot and

00:13:37.319 --> 00:13:39.059
that's one of the other patterns that I

00:13:39.059 --> 00:13:42.360
tend to see on 3d which is the upper

00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.209
body moving faster than the arms faster

00:13:45.209 --> 00:13:48.029
than the pelvis through the shot for

00:13:48.029 --> 00:13:51.119
more consistent golfers where it'll be a

00:13:51.119 --> 00:13:53.069
little bit slower for golfers we tend to

00:13:53.069 --> 00:13:57.720
have higher clubface variability and it

00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:01.199
relates to the arc with graph and the 3d

00:14:01.199 --> 00:14:02.939
flat spot and getting the bottom of the

00:14:02.939 --> 00:14:05.489
swing you know shallowly out and in

00:14:05.489 --> 00:14:09.689
front of the in front of impact all

00:14:09.689 --> 00:14:11.519
right so let me let me scroll back up

00:14:11.519 --> 00:14:16.160
and address a couple of these long-term

00:14:16.160 --> 00:14:19.589
drunken monkeys I have a long-term issue

00:14:19.589 --> 00:14:22.170
where my arms collapse in transition and

00:14:22.170 --> 00:14:24.600
both arms Bend excessively do you have

00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:25.939
any drills training aids which I'll

00:14:25.939 --> 00:14:28.339
maintain width during that part of swing

00:14:28.339 --> 00:14:32.389
so there are there are a number of

00:14:32.389 --> 00:14:35.519
golfers the the most prominent example

00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.739
would be like a Jason Day but I've

00:14:37.739 --> 00:14:39.299
worked with a number of mini-tour

00:14:39.299 --> 00:14:42.779
caliber players who get a fair amount of

00:14:42.779 --> 00:14:44.999
this kind of Bend look through

00:14:44.999 --> 00:14:48.059
transition I don't think it's necessary

00:14:48.059 --> 00:14:50.369
I don't think it's optimal if

00:14:50.369 --> 00:14:51.959
consistency is our main goal but it's a

00:14:51.959 --> 00:14:54.869
big power source so like guys like Jason

00:14:54.869 --> 00:14:56.339
Day or the players who have worked with

00:14:56.339 --> 00:14:58.949
hit the ball a long way what can happen

00:14:58.949 --> 00:15:02.239
is if it does it too much it's usually

00:15:02.239 --> 00:15:04.709
accompanied by a little bit more of a

00:15:04.709 --> 00:15:07.559
kind of scoop style or release which for

00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.540
me is the bigger problem for that

00:15:09.540 --> 00:15:13.919
pattern but if you're trying to get the

00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:18.360
the arms to stay a little bit wider than

00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:19.499
what you have to do is you have to

00:15:19.499 --> 00:15:22.730
create more of the hand movement from

00:15:22.730 --> 00:15:25.589
ribcage rotation or from using your core

00:15:25.589 --> 00:15:27.869
so imagine that you're in the gym and

00:15:27.869 --> 00:15:30.360
you're doing like a horizontal chop that

00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:33.360
would be creating speed and movement

00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:34.980
more with my abs more with my spine

00:15:34.980 --> 00:15:38.610
rotation and less from my arms pulling

00:15:38.610 --> 00:15:43.920
right my arms pulling is more of a lat

00:15:43.920 --> 00:15:46.410
or a upper back style pattern of

00:15:46.410 --> 00:15:50.190
creating force in the club so I've had

00:15:50.190 --> 00:15:54.209
more success with doing for working on

00:15:54.209 --> 00:15:56.640
that pattern doing two things really

00:15:56.640 --> 00:15:59.459
working on getting the earlier shaft

00:15:59.459 --> 00:16:02.010
rotation because the earlier shaft

00:16:02.010 --> 00:16:04.620
rotation if you then pull in narrow you

00:16:04.620 --> 00:16:06.899
tend to hit really bad poles so it

00:16:06.899 --> 00:16:10.290
forces you to too shallow and pretty

00:16:10.290 --> 00:16:12.209
much every shallower also opens the

00:16:12.209 --> 00:16:15.029
clubface so by getting that shaft

00:16:15.029 --> 00:16:17.220
rotation it'll it forces you to get more

00:16:17.220 --> 00:16:20.399
of the shallow which then puts your arms

00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:21.959
in a position where they're not going to

00:16:21.959 --> 00:16:24.810
be able to pull narrowly as powerfully

00:16:24.810 --> 00:16:27.589
so it kind of weakens their position now

00:16:27.589 --> 00:16:30.750
the problem is some golfers hate that

00:16:30.750 --> 00:16:32.579
feeling of getting weak especially if

00:16:32.579 --> 00:16:35.250
their main feeling of power is in the

00:16:35.250 --> 00:16:36.899
shoulders or the triceps or something

00:16:36.899 --> 00:16:41.660
like that because it's going to make it

00:16:41.660 --> 00:16:47.670
feel weaker and golfers especially under

00:16:47.670 --> 00:16:50.310
pressure hate the feeling of not being

00:16:50.310 --> 00:16:55.589
able to go hard at it so I I find that

00:16:55.589 --> 00:16:57.149
the easiest way to work on that is

00:16:57.149 --> 00:16:59.130
through kind of proper offseason

00:16:59.130 --> 00:17:01.220
planning where you're working on good

00:17:01.220 --> 00:17:03.750
oblique and spine rotation and then

00:17:03.750 --> 00:17:06.839
getting into even some med balls or

00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:10.110
there's a product I I use training wise

00:17:10.110 --> 00:17:12.959
called the tornado wall or the twister

00:17:12.959 --> 00:17:15.900
wall I use the lighter one but it's

00:17:15.900 --> 00:17:17.459
basically a medicine ball on a rope and

00:17:17.459 --> 00:17:19.620
that can really help with coordinating

00:17:19.620 --> 00:17:21.630
more of a feeling of pulling on

00:17:21.630 --> 00:17:24.750
something from the core because if you

00:17:24.750 --> 00:17:26.579
pull on it with your arms you hit

00:17:26.579 --> 00:17:28.590
yourself with a medicine ball and it's

00:17:28.590 --> 00:17:32.429
it's not too Pleasant so I would kind of

00:17:32.429 --> 00:17:36.750
I I would start with the looking at the

00:17:36.750 --> 00:17:40.110
clubface control in transition and I

00:17:40.110 --> 00:17:42.720
would look on video a lot at how well

00:17:42.720 --> 00:17:46.950
the spine is rotating and I would also

00:17:46.950 --> 00:17:49.080
remind myself that Jason day got the

00:17:49.080 --> 00:17:49.980
number one in the world with that

00:17:49.980 --> 00:17:51.240
pattern so it doesn't mean that you

00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.330
can't have success with that pattern I

00:17:54.330 --> 00:17:57.450
would but if you're going to improve it

00:17:57.450 --> 00:17:59.760
you're gonna have to rebalance how your

00:17:59.760 --> 00:18:01.500
body creates power it's not it's usually

00:18:01.500 --> 00:18:03.450
not a path thing it's usually more of a

00:18:03.450 --> 00:18:09.900
this feels really strong okay so I had

00:18:09.900 --> 00:18:15.030
another question that I had another

00:18:15.030 --> 00:18:20.550
question about kind of someone who's got

00:18:20.550 --> 00:18:23.610
more of a barrel-chested right so if

00:18:23.610 --> 00:18:25.740
you're if you're larger and you don't

00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:28.290
have quite as much range of motion for

00:18:28.290 --> 00:18:33.330
making these shallow movements what do

00:18:33.330 --> 00:18:35.610
you do and and I'll relate it to the

00:18:35.610 --> 00:18:36.930
backswing because I see another question

00:18:36.930 --> 00:18:40.680
related to that you know it's there

00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:42.090
there are definitely some advantages

00:18:42.090 --> 00:18:44.340
there's a reason why a lot of the young

00:18:44.340 --> 00:18:47.600
guns are kind of wiry and fit because

00:18:47.600 --> 00:18:50.820
ideally you want to act with the club a

00:18:50.820 --> 00:18:52.620
little bit more like a pitcher with some

00:18:52.620 --> 00:18:56.510
of this kind of delayed timing and

00:18:56.510 --> 00:18:59.700
larger range of motion but there there

00:18:59.700 --> 00:19:01.620
have been some really good golfers who

00:19:01.620 --> 00:19:04.650
are more barrel chested the the thing

00:19:04.650 --> 00:19:05.760
that you need to make sure is that

00:19:05.760 --> 00:19:09.570
you're in the backswing you're

00:19:09.570 --> 00:19:12.330
controlling the arms relationship to the

00:19:12.330 --> 00:19:15.870
chest so what I see with more barrel

00:19:15.870 --> 00:19:17.550
chested golfers is they kind of really

00:19:17.550 --> 00:19:19.770
stabilize dig into the ground and they

00:19:19.770 --> 00:19:21.810
create more of the turn with the arms

00:19:21.810 --> 00:19:24.510
getting behind well if I get my arm

00:19:24.510 --> 00:19:26.970
behind in a position kind of like that

00:19:26.970 --> 00:19:30.090
when when my elbow gets behind my

00:19:30.090 --> 00:19:32.880
shoulder I'm going to lose a lot of the

00:19:32.880 --> 00:19:35.520
external range of motion so it's gonna

00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:37.230
force me to then pull down which is

00:19:37.230 --> 00:19:39.750
going to create a really steep alignment

00:19:39.750 --> 00:19:43.230
on the way back so I'll do I'll do

00:19:43.230 --> 00:19:45.210
drills kind of where I'm applying

00:19:45.210 --> 00:19:47.400
resistance and getting more of the

00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:49.590
backswing of rotation where the club

00:19:49.590 --> 00:19:51.060
feels like it's staying a little bit

00:19:51.060 --> 00:19:53.040
more in front of your chest and that'll

00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:55.740
give you the kind of the best

00:19:55.740 --> 00:19:58.080
opportunity or the that will give you

00:19:58.080 --> 00:19:59.490
some slack too then

00:19:59.490 --> 00:20:01.620
and allow a little bit of shallowing on

00:20:01.620 --> 00:20:03.720
the way down now you're probably never

00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.530
going to get the arms well in front on

00:20:07.530 --> 00:20:09.660
the way down just because you got more

00:20:09.660 --> 00:20:12.140
mass than you know skinny guys like me

00:20:12.140 --> 00:20:16.170
but what will what will happen is if you

00:20:16.170 --> 00:20:17.850
keep it in front you'll have that extra

00:20:17.850 --> 00:20:20.040
range of motion to get the club to

00:20:20.040 --> 00:20:23.670
shallow mostly from the lead arm so

00:20:23.670 --> 00:20:26.760
mostly from letting that left arm relax

00:20:26.760 --> 00:20:30.960
I did a video on the site on you know

00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:33.690
some of the I want to say larger golfers

00:20:33.690 --> 00:20:35.429
and you'll tend to see a pattern where

00:20:35.429 --> 00:20:39.030
the the right hand will come off the

00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:40.559
club at different points in the swing

00:20:40.559 --> 00:20:43.410
because most of the larger golfers who

00:20:43.410 --> 00:20:46.320
got to a really high level seem to

00:20:46.320 --> 00:20:48.420
control it more with the left hand and

00:20:48.420 --> 00:20:50.550
less with the right hand or the trail

00:20:50.550 --> 00:20:53.460
hand or a right-handed golfer because

00:20:53.460 --> 00:20:56.250
that restriction you know having that

00:20:56.250 --> 00:20:58.710
extra mass having that restriction in

00:20:58.710 --> 00:21:00.900
the shoulder would cause a really steep

00:21:00.900 --> 00:21:03.470
movement of the arms or of the club

00:21:03.470 --> 00:21:06.480
unless you did it mostly with that lead

00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:10.140
arm so doing is especially some of the

00:21:10.140 --> 00:21:11.790
lead arm release drills and kind of

00:21:11.790 --> 00:21:14.190
getting comfortable with controlling it

00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:17.429
more with the left arm I found with some

00:21:17.429 --> 00:21:19.490
of my husky or golfers that that really

00:21:19.490 --> 00:21:23.760
tends to help tends to help clean things

00:21:23.760 --> 00:21:28.020
up but if it if it's more of the back

00:21:28.020 --> 00:21:29.730
swing issue I would look at the spine

00:21:29.730 --> 00:21:32.160
movements more so than the arm movements

00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:37.740
and and kind of start from there I had a

00:21:37.740 --> 00:21:41.130
question about my thoughts on the orange

00:21:41.130 --> 00:21:43.760
whip as it relates to training

00:21:43.760 --> 00:21:46.110
transition which i think is a good

00:21:46.110 --> 00:21:49.590
question I do I like the orange whip as

00:21:49.590 --> 00:21:52.170
far as kind of the I call it a path

00:21:52.170 --> 00:21:56.090
trainer because what usually happens is

00:21:56.090 --> 00:21:59.910
things like the orange whip or things

00:21:59.910 --> 00:22:02.040
like the speed sticks things were you're

00:22:02.040 --> 00:22:04.610
focusing on getting a lot of speed

00:22:04.610 --> 00:22:07.590
usually creates a better path now the

00:22:07.590 --> 00:22:10.140
problem is with those objects you don't

00:22:10.140 --> 00:22:13.320
have to worry about the clubface

00:22:13.320 --> 00:22:14.669
the other thing you don't have to worry

00:22:14.669 --> 00:22:17.190
about is low point control so what I've

00:22:17.190 --> 00:22:24.059
seen is the orange whip can create face

00:22:24.059 --> 00:22:26.130
control issues where the club is coming

00:22:26.130 --> 00:22:28.950
in kind of he'll open or clubface open

00:22:28.950 --> 00:22:32.309
and you you tend to I've seen it cause

00:22:32.309 --> 00:22:34.049
shanks you can get into just kind of

00:22:34.049 --> 00:22:36.659
like flaring it off to the right or the

00:22:36.659 --> 00:22:38.820
one that I think is worse is it causes

00:22:38.820 --> 00:22:41.549
low point control because it gets you

00:22:41.549 --> 00:22:44.009
using your body inside bending and if

00:22:44.009 --> 00:22:45.929
you still have a bit of a cast pattern

00:22:45.929 --> 00:22:47.610
for squaring the clubface and you get

00:22:47.610 --> 00:22:50.159
into a better body position which the

00:22:50.159 --> 00:22:53.100
orange whip tends to train then if you

00:22:53.100 --> 00:22:54.690
don't make any adjustment to your arms

00:22:54.690 --> 00:22:56.580
the bottom of the swing is going to be

00:22:56.580 --> 00:23:00.120
more back behind the golf ball here so I

00:23:00.120 --> 00:23:02.129
like the orange whip for creating speed

00:23:02.129 --> 00:23:05.960
but in the short term I've seen it

00:23:05.960 --> 00:23:08.070
create some low point issues so I

00:23:08.070 --> 00:23:10.110
wouldn't try it you know I wouldn't

00:23:10.110 --> 00:23:12.990
break it out and test it the week before

00:23:12.990 --> 00:23:15.149
an important event unless you've already

00:23:15.149 --> 00:23:22.019
practiced with a bunch see a couple okay

00:23:22.019 --> 00:23:24.750
so would you say that another way from

00:23:24.750 --> 00:23:26.639
from Jason would you say that another

00:23:26.639 --> 00:23:30.149
way of looking at shallowing the club

00:23:30.149 --> 00:23:32.519
head is either behind the hands or even

00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:35.360
with the hands throughout the downswing

00:23:35.360 --> 00:23:37.649
you can correct me if I'm wrong about

00:23:37.649 --> 00:23:39.990
your when you say even with the hands

00:23:39.990 --> 00:23:46.580
but but yes so shallowing for me is the

00:23:46.580 --> 00:23:49.200
relationship of the club shaft compared

00:23:49.200 --> 00:23:52.379
to the body horizontally or it's the

00:23:52.379 --> 00:23:55.080
amount of width so that's where some

00:23:55.080 --> 00:23:57.690
guys shallow it more by getting the club

00:23:57.690 --> 00:23:59.820
far away from you and then it's like a

00:23:59.820 --> 00:24:03.539
circle that's with a wider radius like

00:24:03.539 --> 00:24:05.210
it has less change down at the bottom

00:24:05.210 --> 00:24:09.000
others would be getting it more behind

00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:11.549
the hands as you're describing which

00:24:11.549 --> 00:24:15.059
then it's basically like like flattening

00:24:15.059 --> 00:24:17.549
the lie angle so now instead of slamming

00:24:17.549 --> 00:24:19.049
into the ground it kind of skims the

00:24:19.049 --> 00:24:21.510
ground that way both of those tend to

00:24:21.510 --> 00:24:24.990
shallow the club the when you get the

00:24:24.990 --> 00:24:26.790
club more behind it'll

00:24:26.790 --> 00:24:28.530
allows you to use body rotation to then

00:24:28.530 --> 00:24:30.360
bring it back out in front and that body

00:24:30.360 --> 00:24:33.890
rotation typically creates more speed so

00:24:33.890 --> 00:24:37.080
for at the very least even if it doesn't

00:24:37.080 --> 00:24:39.420
create more speed it allows for the arm

00:24:39.420 --> 00:24:41.820
extension that happened later which

00:24:41.820 --> 00:24:43.680
tends to slow down the clubface closure

00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:46.380
which tends to produce a little bit more

00:24:46.380 --> 00:24:48.240
repeatability when you get good at that

00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:52.980
pattern so a good you know there are a

00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:55.200
couple of good checkpoints you know when

00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.480
the when the shaft is getting in line

00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:59.610
with the right forearm or at shaft

00:24:59.610 --> 00:25:01.320
parallel if the hand if the club is

00:25:01.320 --> 00:25:03.990
still behind the hands as providing that

00:25:03.990 --> 00:25:05.970
the chest is facing roughly around the

00:25:05.970 --> 00:25:08.130
golf ball then that would indicate that

00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:11.820
you have more of a shallow arm movement

00:25:11.820 --> 00:25:13.950
so those are two good kind of video

00:25:13.950 --> 00:25:17.820
checkpoints you can use I have a

00:25:17.820 --> 00:25:21.300
question from Arasu classic swings

00:25:21.300 --> 00:25:24.240
appear to have more leg drive and access

00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:26.610
tilt at impact is it equipment related

00:25:26.610 --> 00:25:30.090
do you have preference for young golfers

00:25:30.090 --> 00:25:31.800
to model after classic versus modern

00:25:31.800 --> 00:25:35.790
swings there's you know I I definitely

00:25:35.790 --> 00:25:39.420
think that the equipment has a large

00:25:39.420 --> 00:25:41.550
role in why we see swings the way that

00:25:41.550 --> 00:25:45.450
they are now and there's enough cases of

00:25:45.450 --> 00:25:47.370
golfers who've grabbed old equipment

00:25:47.370 --> 00:25:49.140
right I know that they did this at the

00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:52.800
the BMW when it was in Denver and I

00:25:52.800 --> 00:25:55.950
remember Rory doing it at another event

00:25:55.950 --> 00:25:59.100
but grabbing old equipment so the old

00:25:59.100 --> 00:26:01.260
golf ball and the old shafts and trying

00:26:01.260 --> 00:26:03.390
to make swings and not being able to hit

00:26:03.390 --> 00:26:08.550
it very well at all the when when you

00:26:08.550 --> 00:26:10.680
had kind of the high spinning golf ball

00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.350
you really had to launch it low and so

00:26:13.350 --> 00:26:17.220
getting that leg drive was one way to

00:26:17.220 --> 00:26:21.600
help get more shaft lean and I don't

00:26:21.600 --> 00:26:24.200
even know if it's more more shaft lean

00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:28.050
per se because I haven't seen the I

00:26:28.050 --> 00:26:31.200
don't know if they've done any any

00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:34.320
research or any any even video analysis

00:26:34.320 --> 00:26:37.410
of looking at how much more the the

00:26:37.410 --> 00:26:40.110
handle would be ahead but I think

00:26:40.110 --> 00:26:42.540
you you see the images and if you played

00:26:42.540 --> 00:26:44.580
whatas you saw the balls lunch really

00:26:44.580 --> 00:26:46.650
low and then spin up and if you launched

00:26:46.650 --> 00:26:48.240
it high it's still spun up

00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.450
it wasn't until really the pro-v that

00:26:51.450 --> 00:26:53.520
you could launch it high and get the the

00:26:53.520 --> 00:26:57.890
spin rate really low so I think that

00:26:57.890 --> 00:27:02.160
there are some I think that there are

00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:05.490
some possible benefits for the like

00:27:05.490 --> 00:27:06.929
looking at some of the older swings for

00:27:06.929 --> 00:27:10.350
more of the fluid aspect you know kind

00:27:10.350 --> 00:27:13.320
of more like a softer phil mickelson

00:27:13.320 --> 00:27:19.350
style of creating speed but the there's

00:27:19.350 --> 00:27:21.900
a reason why most of the top guys right

00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:22.410
now

00:27:22.410 --> 00:27:24.330
have more of the modern swing look I

00:27:24.330 --> 00:27:29.280
think performance wise it's it it's

00:27:29.280 --> 00:27:34.290
better i I think that let's see I think

00:27:34.290 --> 00:27:36.030
you were asking for yeah for young

00:27:36.030 --> 00:27:38.850
golfers the the thing that really is

00:27:38.850 --> 00:27:41.580
tough for young golfers is that they

00:27:41.580 --> 00:27:44.840
have so many tournaments and so much

00:27:44.840 --> 00:27:47.940
demand as far as playing well at all

00:27:47.940 --> 00:27:51.419
times throughout the year that they they

00:27:51.419 --> 00:27:53.910
almost get locked into their swing too

00:27:53.910 --> 00:27:55.200
soon

00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.580
because most of them like it's really

00:27:59.580 --> 00:28:04.049
hard to have solid sequencing until your

00:28:04.049 --> 00:28:08.850
abs really develop and most kids develop

00:28:08.850 --> 00:28:10.559
the legs grow first so they get really

00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.390
powerful with their legs then the arms

00:28:12.390 --> 00:28:14.280
tend to grow second and then the spine

00:28:14.280 --> 00:28:17.040
tends to grow third and so during that

00:28:17.040 --> 00:28:19.410
phase where the spine is where the legs

00:28:19.410 --> 00:28:21.120
are more powerful and the spine is still

00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:23.700
weak they tend to get into typically

00:28:23.700 --> 00:28:26.070
some of that kind of overuse of the

00:28:26.070 --> 00:28:29.660
lower body and then when the upper body

00:28:29.660 --> 00:28:33.210
catches up and comes back in it can be

00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:36.900
challenging for some to kind of go

00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:38.580
through the growing pains of learning to

00:28:38.580 --> 00:28:40.470
rebalance and get the core a little bit

00:28:40.470 --> 00:28:44.540
more involved so I think that's a bigger

00:28:44.540 --> 00:28:48.000
bigger issue as it relates to kids

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:52.110
because they're not necessarily using

00:28:52.110 --> 00:28:53.220
the older equipment right they're not

00:28:53.220 --> 00:28:53.860
really

00:28:53.860 --> 00:28:57.460
going to be they're not gonna have the

00:28:57.460 --> 00:28:59.970
same incentives to have that low launch

00:28:59.970 --> 00:29:01.809
because they won't have the high spin

00:29:01.809 --> 00:29:06.220
with the current golf ball okay what's

00:29:06.220 --> 00:29:07.990
the importance of pelvic tilt spine

00:29:07.990 --> 00:29:10.929
alignment from Rob what's the important

00:29:10.929 --> 00:29:12.490
of pelvic tilt spine alignment and

00:29:12.490 --> 00:29:14.410
address is there a range you like to see

00:29:14.410 --> 00:29:16.929
can hit pinching in the downswing be

00:29:16.929 --> 00:29:19.840
more advantageous than doing it more at

00:29:19.840 --> 00:29:24.730
address good good question so this is

00:29:24.730 --> 00:29:27.580
where I'm probably gonna do some stuff

00:29:27.580 --> 00:29:30.160
related to this but a lot of those

00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.040
numbers that you'll see on 3d most of

00:29:33.040 --> 00:29:34.720
you know that I've got a pretty strong

00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.630
3d background I've been using a MM

00:29:37.630 --> 00:29:44.799
system since 2004 i I think that 3d is

00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:48.040
great for getting the big global

00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:50.890
pictures of what your pattern is so are

00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:52.720
you more of a Lunger than a caster or

00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:53.980
you more your caster than a Lunger

00:29:53.980 --> 00:29:55.179
because on video it looks like you do

00:29:55.179 --> 00:29:57.429
both 3d is great for answering those

00:29:57.429 --> 00:30:00.190
questions for getting into some of the

00:30:00.190 --> 00:30:02.980
specific details like what you're asking

00:30:02.980 --> 00:30:04.419
about with pelvic alignment spine

00:30:04.419 --> 00:30:07.890
alignment it's 3d is not detailed enough

00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:10.240
because if you think about it like the

00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:15.419
pelvis sensor is really addressing the

00:30:15.419 --> 00:30:21.340
hip the SI joints the lower back so

00:30:21.340 --> 00:30:24.130
there's probably like 10 15 joints that

00:30:24.130 --> 00:30:26.290
are all related to the pelvic sensor

00:30:26.290 --> 00:30:29.470
right so you can't just say that hey

00:30:29.470 --> 00:30:31.809
this golfer is five degrees open with an

00:30:31.809 --> 00:30:33.730
upper body zero degrees with this pelvis

00:30:33.730 --> 00:30:35.919
that's the right alignment no because

00:30:35.919 --> 00:30:37.390
there's lots of different combinations

00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:38.650
that could create that specific

00:30:38.650 --> 00:30:42.610
alignment so I like to go off of I

00:30:42.610 --> 00:30:46.390
actually will if if I have a golfer who

00:30:46.390 --> 00:30:50.710
is highly focused on their address and

00:30:50.710 --> 00:30:53.200
trying to really narrow in where they

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.540
feel the most balanced or where they

00:30:55.540 --> 00:30:57.910
should be aligned and I'm just I'm

00:30:57.910 --> 00:30:59.860
seeing some weird stuff going on with

00:30:59.860 --> 00:31:03.160
the spine tilt or the legs I'll usually

00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.500
do some of my tests to look in and see

00:31:05.500 --> 00:31:07.300
what's happening at the pelvis what's

00:31:07.300 --> 00:31:07.660
happening

00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:11.830
the SI joint because it's very common

00:31:11.830 --> 00:31:15.010
for golfers to have slightly off or

00:31:15.010 --> 00:31:17.260
having some torsion in the pelvis and

00:31:17.260 --> 00:31:18.580
then what you'll see is they'll use

00:31:18.580 --> 00:31:20.680
their legs and their feet to get that

00:31:20.680 --> 00:31:24.730
pelvis back in normal mode position so

00:31:24.730 --> 00:31:27.310
I'm not a huge fan of finding like an

00:31:27.310 --> 00:31:33.310
absolute best spinal alignment as like a

00:31:33.310 --> 00:31:36.400
global you know everybody needs to be at

00:31:36.400 --> 00:31:39.010
20 degrees but you can you can figure

00:31:39.010 --> 00:31:42.370
out like your long-term goal is to keep

00:31:42.370 --> 00:31:44.680
your spine in relatively neutral

00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:50.440
position so that you can create create

00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:54.490
speed safely and create speed throughout

00:31:54.490 --> 00:31:56.740
the whole spine or the whole unit of

00:31:56.740 --> 00:32:01.440
legs pelvis hips ribcage shoulders arms

00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:05.710
if you get if you get too much torsion

00:32:05.710 --> 00:32:08.230
in one area you'll create kind of a weak

00:32:08.230 --> 00:32:10.780
point where you typically will either

00:32:10.780 --> 00:32:13.300
overuse that area or you'll completely

00:32:13.300 --> 00:32:15.310
avoid that area so that those are the

00:32:15.310 --> 00:32:18.430
problems that I'd see more for spine

00:32:18.430 --> 00:32:20.380
alignment so I could give you a rough

00:32:20.380 --> 00:32:23.200
range on 3d but I think that you know if

00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:24.460
you're working with good players you

00:32:24.460 --> 00:32:26.910
need to get past that the rough range

00:32:26.910 --> 00:32:30.850
isn't as good as what I think the the

00:32:30.850 --> 00:32:33.820
best guys are doing but can hip hinging

00:32:33.820 --> 00:32:35.170
in the downswing be more advantageous

00:32:35.170 --> 00:32:38.710
than doing it at setup um yeah you mean

00:32:38.710 --> 00:32:41.080
whether it's a pre stretch or a stretch

00:32:41.080 --> 00:32:47.290
shorten or kind of a you know a getting

00:32:47.290 --> 00:32:50.410
the I we don't know for sure if it's

00:32:50.410 --> 00:32:53.710
stretch shorten or if it's just by pre

00:32:53.710 --> 00:32:55.960
loading the muscle it can then apply

00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:59.500
more force it's probably more the latter

00:32:59.500 --> 00:33:01.000
than a true stress shorten but if your

00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:03.400
hint if you're stretching something

00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:05.200
during the downswing or during

00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.620
transition then the muscle will be able

00:33:08.620 --> 00:33:10.900
to activate stronger than if you

00:33:10.900 --> 00:33:13.450
stretched it at the start and just

00:33:13.450 --> 00:33:15.430
started from there the example would be

00:33:15.430 --> 00:33:18.580
like if you do a running jump versus a

00:33:18.580 --> 00:33:21.549
standing jump so in a standing jump

00:33:21.549 --> 00:33:24.759
gonna be basically you know all muscle

00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.529
activity that's going to create some

00:33:26.529 --> 00:33:29.950
elevation with the running drum when you

00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:33.369
run and you plant your foot your your

00:33:33.369 --> 00:33:37.389
quad is going to decelerate your moments

00:33:37.389 --> 00:33:39.730
I'm going forward and it's by activating

00:33:39.730 --> 00:33:42.489
that quad in decelerating that then when

00:33:42.489 --> 00:33:46.059
it gets into lift me up it's going at a

00:33:46.059 --> 00:33:47.679
higher level because it got to activate

00:33:47.679 --> 00:33:50.019
a whole lot earlier without causing you

00:33:50.019 --> 00:33:53.859
to lose that position so there's

00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:57.309
probably like you'll see a lot with with

00:33:57.309 --> 00:34:00.100
kids and young people who are really

00:34:00.100 --> 00:34:02.230
create or really creating a lot of speed

00:34:02.230 --> 00:34:03.519
from the lower body that they'll hip

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:04.769
hinge in the downswing

00:34:04.769 --> 00:34:08.889
my goal would be the the danger with

00:34:08.889 --> 00:34:11.950
that is that you may have some sequence

00:34:11.950 --> 00:34:14.559
issues and path issues that could relate

00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.990
to the bottom of swing so you just want

00:34:16.990 --> 00:34:19.049
to monitor that and make sure that

00:34:19.049 --> 00:34:21.849
they're not doing it so much that it

00:34:21.849 --> 00:34:25.659
messes up their their upper body and

00:34:25.659 --> 00:34:27.040
their arm motions down through the

00:34:27.040 --> 00:34:31.569
release alright another question if I

00:34:31.569 --> 00:34:34.059
pull my hands towards the ball some say

00:34:34.059 --> 00:34:36.399
that's bad if I fold my hands to be

00:34:36.399 --> 00:34:38.770
desired impact location this would seem

00:34:38.770 --> 00:34:40.960
to be consistent with the white concept

00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:44.290
yet so the white concept for me is my

00:34:44.290 --> 00:34:46.359
term of basically getting your arms back

00:34:46.359 --> 00:34:49.750
in front of you and doing it mostly from

00:34:49.750 --> 00:34:52.780
the shoulders right so many golfers have

00:34:52.780 --> 00:34:54.190
talked about getting the club in front

00:34:54.190 --> 00:34:56.859
of you but obviously if you get the club

00:34:56.859 --> 00:34:58.559
in front of you you can't have your body

00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.910
rotated or side bend at impact

00:35:00.910 --> 00:35:02.980
so you it's more about getting the arms

00:35:02.980 --> 00:35:04.720
and the hands out in front of your body

00:35:04.720 --> 00:35:08.500
and it if you find that you I've had

00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:11.049
I've had many golfers where when they

00:35:11.049 --> 00:35:12.490
feel like they swing more with their

00:35:12.490 --> 00:35:15.640
arms they they get the better alignments

00:35:15.640 --> 00:35:17.710
like they get the arms out in front of

00:35:17.710 --> 00:35:20.410
the golf ball especially if they tend to

00:35:20.410 --> 00:35:22.059
have more of a early extension or thrust

00:35:22.059 --> 00:35:28.210
better so I'm enjoying all the questions

00:35:28.210 --> 00:35:31.270
but I've realized that you know my goal

00:35:31.270 --> 00:35:33.369
was about 20-30 minutes and we're

00:35:33.369 --> 00:35:34.870
getting towards the

00:35:34.870 --> 00:35:37.360
the end of this I'm planning to do more

00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.370
of these so I really appreciate all your

00:35:39.370 --> 00:35:42.010
comments if you if I discuss something

00:35:42.010 --> 00:35:45.130
and you want to know more head over to

00:35:45.130 --> 00:35:47.050
golf smart academy.com if you're not a

00:35:47.050 --> 00:35:49.600
member you can sign up for a free trial

00:35:49.600 --> 00:35:52.060
membership and you can send me questions

00:35:52.060 --> 00:35:53.620
and I can point you in the directions of

00:35:53.620 --> 00:35:55.270
the videos that will hopefully help

00:35:55.270 --> 00:35:59.890
answer your questions or if you if you

00:35:59.890 --> 00:36:02.050
want to know when we're gonna be doing

00:36:02.050 --> 00:36:03.430
these make sure that if you're not

00:36:03.430 --> 00:36:04.990
subscribed to subscribe to our YouTube

00:36:04.990 --> 00:36:07.450
channel like and share all that stuff

00:36:07.450 --> 00:36:11.590
helps us gain momentum this was a lot of

00:36:11.590 --> 00:36:15.670
fun yeah someone asked about can I hold

00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:18.010
my book up I've got a few of the early

00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:22.590
copies here but I just wrote a kind of

00:36:22.590 --> 00:36:27.270
pretty massive book it's about 350 pages

00:36:27.270 --> 00:36:31.990
going through lots of the different kind

00:36:31.990 --> 00:36:34.000
of ways that all the pieces fit together

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.060
so kind of taking science taking some

00:36:37.060 --> 00:36:40.690
practical coaching and really tying it

00:36:40.690 --> 00:36:42.850
all together into hopefully a way that

00:36:42.850 --> 00:36:46.330
you can figure out what you need to do

00:36:46.330 --> 00:36:48.810
with your swing so I always I always

00:36:48.810 --> 00:36:50.890
harp on my students that you got to

00:36:50.890 --> 00:36:52.150
figure out what you're trying to do so

00:36:52.150 --> 00:36:54.550
is it are you working on your face

00:36:54.550 --> 00:36:56.470
control are you working on solid contact

00:36:56.470 --> 00:36:59.280
and low point control are you working on

00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:05.220
creating speed better I I think that

00:37:05.220 --> 00:37:07.810
when you figure out what main skill

00:37:07.810 --> 00:37:09.820
you're working on it opens up the road

00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:11.980
and it kind of makes it easier to then

00:37:11.980 --> 00:37:14.980
know if a tip that you heard or a swing

00:37:14.980 --> 00:37:16.540
thought makes sense or if it's just

00:37:16.540 --> 00:37:18.190
gonna be one of those kind of you know

00:37:18.190 --> 00:37:20.380
things that's only gonna work for a day

00:37:20.380 --> 00:37:22.150
I like long-term growth and long-term

00:37:22.150 --> 00:37:25.000
improvement and the goal of this book

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.160
was to really help you understand the

00:37:27.160 --> 00:37:29.830
pieces so that you can have a real

00:37:29.830 --> 00:37:35.410
long-term plan I see one last question

00:37:35.410 --> 00:37:37.300
if you have any other questions please

00:37:37.300 --> 00:37:39.430
send them to send them to support at

00:37:39.430 --> 00:37:41.590
golf smart Academy comm and I'll get

00:37:41.590 --> 00:37:42.190
back to them

00:37:42.190 --> 00:37:45.160
hopefully in a timely manner last

00:37:45.160 --> 00:37:46.960
question do you promote more of a rotary

00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:48.640
movement through the ball or

00:37:48.640 --> 00:37:52.390
a stall like Phil seems like I hit more

00:37:52.390 --> 00:37:54.099
solid shots with a stall which probably

00:37:54.099 --> 00:37:56.010
means I'm over the top when rotating

00:37:56.010 --> 00:37:59.200
through the motorcycle what it probably

00:37:59.200 --> 00:38:02.609
means is that you don't have an eye

00:38:02.609 --> 00:38:05.680
advocate more of the rotary style Phil

00:38:05.680 --> 00:38:07.890
obviously has some face control issues

00:38:07.890 --> 00:38:12.700
but the the more upper body on top arm

00:38:12.700 --> 00:38:17.349
Arne dominant swing can work really well

00:38:17.349 --> 00:38:18.940
with for the short irons which is more

00:38:18.940 --> 00:38:20.740
of kind of a circular shaped less of the

00:38:20.740 --> 00:38:27.160
flat bottom as far as it what's likely

00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:29.349
happening if you hit better with a stall

00:38:29.349 --> 00:38:31.809
is that yes you would probably need a

00:38:31.809 --> 00:38:33.910
little bit more motorcycle and you'd

00:38:33.910 --> 00:38:35.710
probably need more of the Jackson 5 or a

00:38:35.710 --> 00:38:37.180
little bit more of the access tool

00:38:37.180 --> 00:38:39.309
because what's probably happening is

00:38:39.309 --> 00:38:41.289
you're getting early movement from the

00:38:41.289 --> 00:38:43.660
shoulders and then by stalling you

00:38:43.660 --> 00:38:46.869
haven't kind of gotten as much outside

00:38:46.869 --> 00:38:49.990
in or steep and then when you straighten

00:38:49.990 --> 00:38:52.539
your arms because of the stall you're

00:38:52.539 --> 00:38:54.309
able to coordinate the face and control

00:38:54.309 --> 00:38:56.799
hopefully my only concern would be if

00:38:56.799 --> 00:38:59.769
you had face control issues with the

00:38:59.769 --> 00:39:03.099
driver or potentially like 3-wood if

00:39:03.099 --> 00:39:04.450
those are your main struggles then I

00:39:04.450 --> 00:39:07.170
would probably make a plan to work on

00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:10.480
the kind of the timing of that through

00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:11.880
impact

00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.829
so all right thank you all for for

00:39:14.829 --> 00:39:17.019
joining me and if you have any other

00:39:17.019 --> 00:39:20.549
questions you can you can