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How to Avoid Getting Stuck with a Closed Club Face in Your Short Game

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the key faults that lead to a closed club face during your swing
  • Implement strategies to achieve a more consistent club path in your short game
  • Understand the importance of body movement and its effect on your wedge play

In this live Q&A, we dive into common short game issues, focusing on how to prevent getting stuck with a closed club face. You'll learn practical tips to improve your wedge play and enhance your overall short game performance.

Video Transcript
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Alright, welcome to another YouTube live event.

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This one I'm going to focus on the short game after I had a bunch of questions

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after the

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masters and I get a fair number of questions related to wedge play in

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particular.

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And so I figured we'd do a class or a talk specifically about that.

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But if you have questions about other areas, feel free to post them.

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And as always, just go ahead and introduce yourself if you're on the chat and I

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haven't

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talked with you or worked with you in person before.

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So what's your name?

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Where you're at?

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Okay, I'm going to run through a handful of these questions.

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But as live ones come in, I'll jump over and answer them.

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So the first question that kind of helped trigger this was a question last week

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from

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Franco.

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He asked, "How do I avoid getting under and stuck with a closed club face?"

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So many, many short game problems originate from having the club getting inside

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or under

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plane and having the club shut.

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The problem with that is that if you used really good cast pattern and just did

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a normal kind

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of short game pivot, you would tend to hit it fat or thin and at the very least

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you'd

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tend to hit a lot of leading edge contact.

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So you'd hit the front edge of the end of the ground leaving you very little

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margin of

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air.

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No.

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So as far as getting the club stuck in the inside, they're a handful of, or

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they're a

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small handful of culprits that will cause that pattern.

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One from the face on look, most good wedge players when I look at their 3D

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graphs tend

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to have a slight shift towards the target in the backswing.

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If you tend to have more of a shift into your right foot with some body

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rotation, you can

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see that if the body rotates and you shift that will tend to bring the club a

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little

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bit more inside compared to if you stayed a little bit more left and did the

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same basic

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body pivot.

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So if I shift and rotate versus if I stay more left having more of a tilt and

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rotate,

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that's one common culprit for getting the club stuck in inside.

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Second one would be related to the arms compared to the body.

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So most good wedge players will tend to keep their hands more or less in front

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of their

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chest.

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So if your takeaway is dominated by primarily to the trail arm pulling the club

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across your

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body.

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Now it's on the right side of your body, it's way back here.

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So that means in order to get the bottom of the swing out in front of the golf

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ball, I

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would have to rotate my body pretty aggressively and keep the arms back.

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Well by rotating my body, keeping the arms back, that's going to tend to

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produce too

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much power for these short little shots.

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And so that can cause the need to kind of stall or decelerate or release the

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arm.

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So if you keep your hands a little bit more in front of your chest, then that

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prevents

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the club from getting too far inside.

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In order to do so.

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So in order to keep the hands more in front of the chest, you're probably going

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to feel

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like there's more rotation with your hands as opposed to flexion, extension and

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abduction.

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So I'm not really pulling my arms across and closing like this.

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More or less keeping the wrists in about the same position and having a bit

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more rotation.

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If you're not used to that feeling of keeping the club face square through

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rotation, which

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looks a little bit more like that, it will tend to feel like it's very

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manipulated.

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One of the ways you can confirm it is if you do a left arm only backswing and

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then put

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the right hand on, it's very rare that you would pull the club dead inside with

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just

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your left hand.

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So it's more natural that you're going to swing the club on plane, it's kind of

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a quick

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little hack fix.

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And he actually asked when he does it with one hand, specifically the trail

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hand, it

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was fine.

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What that probably tells me is that it's more of the left arm pulling across

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and more of

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the lack of tilt.

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It's probably when he has both hands on the club, it's a little bit more of a

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body shift.

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Okay, I'll come back to Brian's question because it's less about the short game

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So Fred had a question about the short game kinematic sequence and the pelvis

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and chest

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grafts.

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Okay, so the short game kinematic sequence, for those of you who are unaware of

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the kinematic

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sequence, it's a 3D graft that shows the rotational speeds of different aspects

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of your body.

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With the full swing, there's a tendency that you'll see the lower body rotate

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first, then

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the upper body, then the arm, then the club, as far as the sequencing and order

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of transition.

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With the short game, what you'll tend to see is you'll still see that same

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order as far

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as lower body, upper body arms club.

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The club can go ahead of the arms sometimes, but you'll typically still see the

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same pattern.

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The biggest difference is you won't see a lot of acceleration peaking.

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You'll tend to see a very flat graft.

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So the phrase that I use is instead of rotating and then bracing with the short

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game shot,

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you'll tend to see a coasting pattern where basically the body and the arms are

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almost

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moving at the same speed all the way through the downswing.

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There's not a whole lot of acceleration, deceleration, or acceleration transfer

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of energy.

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Most of the energy is being controlled more from the shoulders.

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So I use the metaphor quite a bit of an underhand toss is more similar to a

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wedge shot as far

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as the basic rules and the power source, so with an underhand toss, the

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shoulder is more

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my power source and my lower body and hand are more supporting my accuracy.

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With an overhand throw, I'm going to have more of a weight shift, more of this

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sequencing,

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and then more of a snap at the end, so that more of the transfer of energy from

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my lower

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body through the core and into the hands.

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So the kinematic sequence is going to look fairly flat.

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As far as the chest and the pelvis grafts, the rotations aren't that

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dramatically different

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other than you typically won't see a really big X factor stretch in transition.

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You will tend to see the upper body a little bit more open at setup and at

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impact compared

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to the pelvis, and the pelvis bend will stay relatively consistent.

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There's not going to be quite as much pelvic tuck or glute squeeze on the way

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through.

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The bigger difference you'll see on 3D is more of the linear.

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So with the short game shot, you'll tend to see a little bit more of a drift of

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the upper

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body forward, and you'll tend to see a little bit more of a drift upward.

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You won't see quite as much down and back in the short game shot as you would

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in the

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full swing.

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So I'll answer the first kind of live question.

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So Dennis is asking about green side bunkers, maybe 30 yards of the pin, so a

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longer green

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side bunker shot.

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Much difficulty in determining how best they hit the longer sand shots.

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That is definitely, there's a reason that's a tough shot.

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It's, you either have to use your standard green side shot and move the contact

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point

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very close to the golf ball, which gives you a little bit of risk of maybe

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catching it

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in, or what I recommend for most of my above 10 handicap players to do is to

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use more of

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like a 9 iron on that shot and use their basic bunker technique.

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I'm actually a fan of using 9 irons, wedges, 8 irons as a green side practice

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because it

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still forces you to use the back of the club.

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It actually encourages you to get the handle a little bit lower and it tends to

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, because

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the club is a little bit lower, it almost encourages you needing to get more of

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a steep

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angle attack, which is helpful for both creating spin or distance control, as

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well as for controlling

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the bottom of the swing.

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Most poor bunker players have a tendency to not get too steep.

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They can get outside, but it's not that they're getting too steep.

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What typically happens is they frequently get too wide with either having too

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much upper

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body tilt behind the ball this way, or from getting the arms too much behind

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that way.

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And then they tend to have the bottom of the swing too far back, so they'll

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either blade

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it or chunk it and leave in the bunker.

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So with a little longer club, it encourages more of that tilting behind the

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ball, so it

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forces you to work a little bit harder on the movement that I think is really

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helpful

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for good low point control or solemnness of contact in the bunkers.

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So for your standard 30-yard shot, I would probably go with more of a 9 irons

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wedge unless

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you have a lot of practice time and have really good bunker technique to begin

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with.

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With a sand wedge or 58 degree wedge, I'll tell most of my students to get good

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at hitting

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that about 15 yards as a baseline and then learn to take a little off of it,

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but it's

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hard to get that to go all the way to 30 yards.

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Because the second you start trying to swing harder, you'll have a tendency to

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get more

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lower body involved, which has a tendency to create more shaft lean, and that

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affects

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your low point.

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Most good bunker players will talk about the club passing the handle down to

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the bottom,

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and that's hard to do when you're swinging too hard from your body.

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Okay, we'll get back on to some of the email questions, and the next question

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was also

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from Fred.

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He was asking for, how do you control trajectory?

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So it's difficult with the shift of one to three inches towards the target and

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cast.

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He has trouble matching the pace of the arms as a cast, as well as the shift of

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the upper

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body.

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Well, so in general, I coach most of my students to avoid the three major death

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moves of wedges.

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Three major death moves being more of a sequencing error of pulling on the

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handle and creating

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whole lot of leg, number two, getting too much tilt behind the ball, although

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that's actually

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the first one I usually teach, and then the last one being more of an upper

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body dive.

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So a lot of golfers who have kind of a flinchy or yip tend to have more of the

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upper body

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diving down towards the golf ball that can create a little bit of too steep of

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an angle

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of attack forcing you to get shaft lean, taking away bounce, the whole host.

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Anyway, the main one that I'll focus on for usually the first lesson in order

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to get solid

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contact is keeping the shoulders more level, and usually that feels like

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keeping the right

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shoulder high.

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I'll show golfers how to figure out if they have too much side bend from the

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spine or

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the hips, but focusing on keeping that right shoulder high helps to create a

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place where

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you don't have to have a whole lot of handle drag in order to make solid

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contact.

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And so then you can control the trajectory by moving the ball position just

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slightly

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back in your stance, slightly forward, playing with little things like opening

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the club face

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slightly or bringing it more towards square.

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I never really like to get it too close unless you're hitting a low running

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specialty shot.

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And then you can play around with how much hand action you have down at the

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bottom, so

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creating more of the hit from the hands versus creating more of the hit from

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the body pivot.

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So if you have a little bit softer hands and more body pivot, it'll tend to

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have a little

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less spin and come out lower.

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If you tend to have a little bit more of the hands passing down to the bottom,

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it will

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tend to come a little bit higher with a little bit more spin.

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So if you're struggling with contact though, I would first go after shoulders

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level, and

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then I would go after the cast pattern.

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And one of the common things that I see with the cast pattern is the cast

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pattern is more

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of a whole arm and shoulder release.

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So basically putting energy into the club from the whole arm, it's not just

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throwing

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with the wrist.

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What I tend to see is some golfers cast it with the wrist but then because they

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keep this

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arm on the side and keep it in more of a loaded position, they get into this

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side bend pattern.

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So letting the arm, especially the trail arm, just fully lengthen and release

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to bring the

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club down towards impact while keeping the shoulders level tends to create an

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environment

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where you're going to have more solid contact.

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His next question, so Fred had a bunch of short game and was part of the reason

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we went

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this direction, foot pressure in the finesse and distance wedges.

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So with the full swing, we're going to have more of a load into the right leg,

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shift into

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the left leg, and then getting in more towards that left heel.

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With the finesse wedge, more of the pressure is going to stay in the left heel

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for the

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majority of the shot, and it's going to tend to be a little bit flatter.

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So I'll usually, let's say that this club is my foot and I'll usually draw it

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on the

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whiteboard and I'll basically say here's my toes, here's my heel, I'll say if

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you divide

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it in half, I want you to keep your pressure in this left half of your foot the

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entire

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swing.

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So basically keeping it from the ball of the foot backwards during the entire

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swing and

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not having a really aggressive or pronounced press into the ground the same way

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you would

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with your full swing.

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I do that usually by focusing on keeping the knees a little bit softer instead

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of having

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more of a bracing pattern on the way through.

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Alright I see a question come in, what causes a wedge shot to fall out of the

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sky quickly?

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So for the ball to fall out of the sky it's typically going to have less spin.

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Now frequently that combination happens when a golfer has too much side bend

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and they'll

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feel like the ball slides off the face because with that side bend it's easier

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to get a little

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bit of grass in between the ball and the club and it's easier to add a little

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bit too much

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locks and get the feeling of the ball sliding up the face.

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I tell most golfers if you ever have that feeling where the ball just slides up

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the face

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and comes out a little dead it's usually a result of side bend.

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There's a chance you could do it more with the wrist down at the bottom but it

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's almost

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always too much side bend, too much access to coming into the ball.

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With a 10 to 20 yard wedge shot, Dr. Neal was talking at a conference that I

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was speaking

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at and he said that most of the numbers are somewhere between 5 to 10 degrees

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of angle

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of attack with a lot of the better wedge players being closer to the 7 to 10

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range so a little

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bit steeper so if you can imagine in order to hit down 10 degrees and not have

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a whole

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lot of cut spin then the path would be let's say 6, 7 maybe upwards of 10

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degrees out to

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in so that pull of coming a little bit out to in is part of what gets the ball

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to launch

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a little bit lower and it tends to help with the clean contact so it doubles in

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clean

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contact helping to get the face and then basically having a little bit more of

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a pull

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pattern and that pull pattern comes from the shoulders being level a little bit

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more of

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a chop action with the arms instead of a lift action with the arms and more

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body turn on

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the way through cool see turf oh yeah so sliding up the face I would definitely

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do some awareness

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drills more on side then that's that sounds like that's exactly what's

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happening Rick is

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asking what causes high and mid handicappers to flip their rips their wrist on

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chip shots

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um okay so flipping the wrist on chip shots it can come from a variety of

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different problem patterns

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I would say the most common would be starting with your hands too far forward

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for the higher

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handicap they start with the hands too far forward and then instead of let's

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say I would say instead

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of having more of the impact and hit controlled by the body pivot and arm

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straightening they tend

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to control it more with the hand straightening so what they do is they set up

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with the hands too

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far forward like this and then flip the hands down at the bottom um moving the

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bottom of swing

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backward usually what I do first is I'll have them get set up and then I'll

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take them to impact

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and I'll basically say okay where your hands are at impact we're going to bring

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the club around

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and I'll come to this point and kind of guide them into hitting my hands more

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with the grip working

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around instead of hitting it more with either the club head or getting the grip

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going straight

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towards the target a lot of poor amateur or higher handicap golfers have a

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tendency to have the handle

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moving straight towards impact or sorry straight towards the target through

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impact as opposed to

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keeping the handle moving left and keeping the club face more let's say quiet

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or or square

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Peter asked how to chip off very tight almost bare hard pain so when you're ch

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ipping off bare

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hard pin there's two different options you can either play a little bit more

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shaft lean with the

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hands but then you have to be really careful to make sure that the body pivot

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is hitting it on the

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way through because if you get a little bit more hand action with that shaft

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lean you don't have

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the bounce to save you so that becomes a real problem what I coach most golfers

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to do is to get

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that to lengthen the right side of their spine and basically get that right

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side of the rib cage

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really tall that helps encourage more of a left path steep angle of attack and

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it allows you to

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cast and even flip a little bit and not hit it fat so you can use the the old

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stand outly where

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are your fingers along your leg and basically trying to get the left hand lower

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at setup and

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then pretty much staying there the the thing off tight lies is the common

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approach of hands back

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handle forward tilt behind almost always creates bounce issues so if you're not

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very good with

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controlling the bottom the swing while keeping that shaft lean I tend to err on

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a little bit

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more left tilt let me jump back to a couple of these emails and then I'll get

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to I see a couple

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more questions coming in and I had a few questions unrelated to short game but

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that's what how these

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live Q&A's works so Brian asked about down cocking the wrists in the downswing

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so basically why is it

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bad to have too much radial what are the problems it causes as well as maybe a

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drill to solve it

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so basically what he's describing is what what was commonly taught as lag is

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increasing this

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radial deviation are basically hinging the left wrist like this now what what

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you'll see on 3d

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is that the left wrist might increase a degree or two during the downswing it

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doesn't change very

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much at all in fact many higher handicap golfers who have a look of more of a

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cast like this will

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increase their radial deviation more than golfers who look like they have more

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lag and it's because

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of the the 3d aspect if I get it more closer to the camera like this it will

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tend to look like it has

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more more or sorry less lag even if I have more radial deviation where if I

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have it back this way

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even if I have more ulnar deviation it will tend to look as if it has more lag

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to it because you're

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looking more at the angle instead of oblique to the angle so what a lot of golf

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ers do is they

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pull down quite like this trying to create extra lag and hinge but the problem

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is that does two

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things one when you really hinge this way you can see and you can try it your

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wrist will naturally

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want to extend and the extension of the wrist tends to open the club face so

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now I have a situation

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where the club is very vertical and the club face is really open so it presents

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a problem of how do

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I deliver a shallow angle of attack to the ball and how do I get that club face

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to square so what

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more golfers do is when they're trying to create or when more of the tour

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pattern would be is trying

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to create more of the load in the extension of the trail wrist as opposed to

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extension of the lead

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wrist and getting that face to rotate sooner which requires or almost always is

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accompanied by earlier

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ulnar deviation so not trying to hinge it as much as possible but focusing more

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on the club face

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staying square or the wrist staying neutral tends to prevent that over setting

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up at the top so if

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you have a you know as a simple drill I have you can take a piece of tape or

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put a ruler or a tee

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or something in a golf club and you can basically make sure that that wrist

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stays pretty straight

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if the wrist doesn't extend it's very hard to over set the wrist okay Chris uh

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Chris asked watching

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Jordan speed the master's last week it looked like he doesn't hinge on chip pit

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shots looks like he

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rolls the wrist under thoughts um or thought that was not correct it's uh it's

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becoming a more common

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pattern um you've got guys like Jason day um and Steve Stricker who kind of

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popularized the

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basically almost keeping the same amount of hinge ulnar deviation setting up

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more square and then

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controlling that low point um more by the upper body getting far enough forward

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um as opposed to

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some golfers who teach a little bit quicker wrist set um you know I tend to

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personally

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gravitate a little bit more towards that speed pattern that you were seeing the

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the key there is

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um if you are going to if you're looking at from a geometry standpoint if you

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're going to keep this

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part wide then I cannot get any of this behind the ball whatsoever you're gonna

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hear me say this um

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probably multiple times today but um if you're going to do more of that pattern

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where you're

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preventing the the wrist from hinging and you're basically keeping it um that

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ulnar deviation then

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you have to get more of the steepness from staying forward kind of like this uh

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but I tend to find

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it works out pretty well um so the uh the under flip part of that is a is more

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a result of

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not letting that wrist flip um or extend sorry to close the face and the under

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flip part especially

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on the really tight lies will help with getting more of a bounce contact so the

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key is just like a

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high handicap or hitting a slice they'll tend to lunge more forward and use

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that under flip

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well that pattern creates a slight pull which gives you enough friction um and

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the steepness of

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angle of attack but using the bounce so it's a pretty good combination for um

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especially really

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tight grass like they were playing with at the masses okay lee was asking how

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to keep the ball

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from checking when striking chip shots want the ball to hit the ground and

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start rolling um if

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you're getting a lot of spin uh there are um okay so the the main factors for

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spin are club head speed

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and solidness of contact the if you make really solid contact then you're going

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to tend to get a

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lot of friction which is going to create a lot of speed um and if you have a

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lot of club head speed

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you're going to tend to create more spin so that's part of the reason why tour

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pros tend to make

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contact away from the center of the club either or slow on the bottom of the

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face or slightly more

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on the toe so that they can swing faster in order to create more spin so if you

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're trying to take

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off spin um what you can try to do is take the hands a little bit more out of

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it so that it's more

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of a body pivot release um and try to hit it a little bit more in the center of

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the club instead

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of um low or even on the toe but the big one i would say is more um basically

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if you if you move

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contact from away from the center to the center you're going to get a lot more

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energy transfer

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so that by itself is going to require that you swing a little bit slower um but

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i would i'd say

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that's one option the second option of course is you can always go down in

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clubs you know basically

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take away some of the loft um but usually if you get more of the body release

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of everything coming

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through together without having a whole lot of hand speed down at the bottom it

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keeps the club

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head speed a little bit lower okay um mark asked about um when you're just off

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the green so like

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three yards off the green and you've got a little bit thicker kind of grabby

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grass so whether it's a

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like a poana or like a Bermuda if you've got kind of more of that grass that's

511
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going to absorb a

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lot of the energy um what do you do so when it when you have grass that can

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potentially absorb the

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energy you want to have a little bit steeper angle of attack and um in order to

515
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this is almost

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the opposite of how do i take off spin you're going to take off spin on that

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shot because it's

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in grabby grass and it's going to be virtually impossible to get ball first

519
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contact you're going

520
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to get um friction reduction from having uh debris in between the clubface and

521
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the golf ball so if

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you set up with a little bit more um left shoulder low and then um the the big

523
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thing on that is making

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sure that you're going to use the bounce of the club so making sure that on the

525
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way coming through

526
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that the loft of the club or the face has very little rotation golfers who tend

527
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to have a little

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bit more face rotation which is great for the full swing um that will cause

529
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more bounce issues

530
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and when you're in that grabby grass it will tend the to get the club to kind

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of stall or stop so

532
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really feeling more of what we talked about earlier of a little bit of that

533
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under release where the

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palm stays facing up and the face stays a little bit more open and then making

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sure that it's not

536
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sliding under by making sure that you're hitting more of almost the pull

537
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pattern with the upper

538
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body slightly more on top that combination tends to work really well um out of

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out of bermuda out

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of really thick rough when you um don't want to have to swing too hard so if

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you're just slightly

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off the green falls in that category um okay so chris also asked um keeping the

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upper body and

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lower body connected so this is separate from short game um but more getting

545
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into just kind of some

546
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physical of transition um so he was asking about keeping the upper body and

547
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lower body connected

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which muscles are engaged uh this is a common pattern i've had a a handful of

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cases in the last

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month or so of um golfers coming in knowing that they want to have the lower

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body lead first

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but doing it in a way that doesn't really influence the club i'll show you what

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i mean

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so the i'll give the answer first the main muscles that are going to connect

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the pelvis to the rib

556
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gauge are your abdominals and your back muscles so basically having the um

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internal leak external

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leak transverse abdominis rectus abdominis um and then multividus or your par

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aspinals um and

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primarily your transverse spinalis uh those guys are the core connection of the

561
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um pelvis to the

562
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ribcage what can happen is some golfers get more like disassociation kind of

563
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like this

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but no energy moves from the pelvis to the ribcage it kind of gets absorbed in

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the back

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or i should say it doesn't really move all the way into the club so what i

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frequently do is

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i'll go up to the top of swinging apply a little bit of resistance and i'll say

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when you turn your

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lower body i should feel that effort getting into the handle of the club and in

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order to even do it

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against myself like this i feel that my abs are getting a little bit more

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turned on so some golfers

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in order to sequence properly have more of a feeling of their uh body working

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more as one unit

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instead of a feeling of big disassociation um and then almost having to

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re-speed up the arms in the hands so the big ones would be tbi internal oblique

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external oblique rectus being more from like big power generation not

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necessarily that connection

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so um lots of your core activation breathing dead bugs that style

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um for ed also asked one non short game related question so as far as exercises

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for increasing

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distance and preventing injury he was hoping that we could talk maybe about

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both exercises that

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improve distance and exercises that reduce injury risk and what would be five

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non-negotiable

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exercises so exercise is always a tricky topic um i've i study exercise like i

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go to more classes

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and discuss exercise protocols and theory more than i do um going to say golf

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swing style classes

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i i get a lot of my ideas as far as how the golf swing works from understanding

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how the body moves

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and then um comparing that against a lot of the 3d data that i've had access to

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um so the hard

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thing is from an exercise standpoint if we're going after distance and injury

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the main thing

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the main thing from an injury perspective is to distribute force through your

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whole body

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and keep joints closer to their end range of motion for longer um so not going

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to end range of motion

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with high speed and not absorbing like not having poor energy transfer from one

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joint to the next

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i would say from an energy standpoint the most common places where that breaks

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down is either

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at the hips the lower back the rib cage or the shoulder blade so i would really

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focus on um hip

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mobility and strength exercises um pelvis control and SI joint um stability

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exercises rib cage

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mobility disassociation and all the planes and um i use a lot of aldoa

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technique uh

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exercises in order to try to create some more space there and some more

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mobility in those joints

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and then scapular control and really getting a good handle on the the shoulder

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blades because the

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shoulder blade um can quickly if it starts to get too elevated or protracted

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can make it really

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hard to do good shallowing movements um and from a longevity standpoint forces

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you to do a little

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bit more action from the elbow and the wrist and less from the trunk so that

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can relate to either

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forearm wrist neck issues or you may then actually compensate with the lower

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back so many golfers

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have a tight rib cage and then that stress either goes down into the lower back

624
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or up into the neck

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and shoulder so exercises that work on um the ribs movement would probably be

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my my biggest

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tip as far as injury prevention um he was asking about hypertrophy and the the

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hard thing there is

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there are there's not enough research as far as to hypertrophy of the muscles

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and its relationship

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to club head speed there are too many um anecdotal issues of golfers on tour

632
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getting bigger getting

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stronger and losing club head speed um you know some as many as uh ten you know

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i've heard of one

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student who were one tour bro who lost about 10 miles per hour from doing about

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six months of

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strength training so um in the in the global sense i don't think you have to do

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a ton of

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hypertrophy training to improve your ball speed but if you were i would

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probably say the safest

641
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areas to go after would be more your your core and your hips um possibly scap

642
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ular control

643
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but definitely um be a little cautious with too much internal rotation training

644
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so whether

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it's bench press or lat pull down or pull ups um those can create some some

646
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problematic patterns

647
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i've had a handful of juniors uh who start taking weightlifting class and then

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we have to rebalance

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their their face and path because of too much internal rotation exercises or

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hypertrophy training

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in the gym um okay let me see i got another couple questions coming in um do

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you advocate

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changing alignment based on angle attack for example wedges have a steeper

654
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angle of attack

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so it pushes the path to the right so would you um aim more left uh my my gut

656
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instinct on that is

657
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changing alignment based on the angle of attack i wouldn't necessarily change

658
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it just based on

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the angle of attack um because the the relationship would be more the face

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alignment combined with

661
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the angle of attack so you could have the same angle of attack and very

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different face alignments

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and your start line would be would be different um so i would probably go more

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off of face alignment

665
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and in in terms of how open close you're setting up with the club face um

666
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rather than the angle of

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attack i think the angle of attack can help negate some of the club face

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opening and create more

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of a pole situation um but i wouldn't just make my setup changes based on that

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uh okay ed is coming

671
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in with uh with a finesse wedge i seem to pull the ball left um okay so you

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want to rule out or

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you'd want to figure out is the pole coming more from too much face rotation so

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the club face is

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just coming in uh too close or is the pole um coming in more from the path

676
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being way to the left or

677
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possibly um alignment i if it's more of the path going to the left um if you

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have a good trajectory

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and you're hitting a solid and it's just a pole then i would potentially adjust

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my stance there's no

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real rule of thumb that you have to be a certain amount open my gut is you're

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probably getting more

683
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of the pole from too much face rotation which would lead towards a diggy mis

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pattern and if

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that's more of the case um then i'd work on the the single arm releases for the

686
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finesse wedge and

687
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work on um keeping the same loft and face relationship through the follow

688
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through instead of letting

689
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it really twist over like the full swing uh ed also had another question i'm

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having frequent

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thin shots with my irons i focus on the steeps and shallows but to continue

692
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struggle the direction

693
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is good but thin okay so the main culprits for a thin shot with the full swing

694
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are either going

695
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to be more of the under flip style release which would be more typically lead

696
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arm training um or

697
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it would be too much uh early extension and side bend so either the body is

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getting a little bit too

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00:39:35.680 --> 00:39:41.720
shallow moving the low point backward or the um release is getting a little bit

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too scoopy

701
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too flippy moving the low point backward um so i would evaluate if it's um the

702
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:51.920
easiest way to be

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00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:58.250
would be to look at video um from the face on uh you look more at the release

704
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and seeing through

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impact is the right hand staying under you know all the way into the follow

706
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through or is the right

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hand um getting a little bit more on top that would uh if it's staying under

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that can lead towards

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that thin pattern or from the down the line checking to see um if the butt is

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moving too much in towards

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the golf ball or the knee is getting out past the feet um that would be one

712
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other area that you could

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potentially look at i heard that there was an interesting question that came in

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uh but it looks like uh that was Ed's question so thank you Ed for jumping over

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from email

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and moving it here to more the facebook pattern or the youtube pattern all

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right i think

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that about covers all of the um all of the email questions i had in so if you

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have any last minute

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questions um post them right now if i don't get to them i will uh save them for

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the next youtube

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or uh yeah youtube live event um i hope you're still enjoying these um we're

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gonna be uh making a

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little announcement with the site um so always working on stuff but um thanks

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again it's beautiful

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out here so i'm probably gonna head over and maybe do a little practice myself

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um if you have any

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questions that we didn't get to cover either about short game or about the full

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swings please send

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them to me through the email at support@golfsmartacademy.com um there's another

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youtube video on the three

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danger wedge or the three danger moves of wedgeplay if you're struggling that

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'll i'll demonstrate

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kind of the three moves you really want to avoid if you're struggling with

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finesse or distance wedges

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and if you haven't checked it out of course um take a look at my book and check

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out my website

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where i've got lots of videos discussing in detail the different areas the

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different concepts and

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drills on how to train it so thanks again for coming in for another youtube

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live and we will

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hopefully post another one of these very shortly
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How to Avoid Getting Stuck with a Closed Club Face in Your Short Game

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the key faults that lead to a closed club face during your swing
  • Implement strategies to achieve a more consistent club path in your short game
  • Understand the importance of body movement and its effect on your wedge play

In this live Q&A, we dive into common short game issues, focusing on how to prevent getting stuck with a closed club face. You'll learn practical tips to improve your wedge play and enhance your overall short game performance.

Video Transcript
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Alright, welcome to another YouTube live event.

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This one I'm going to focus on the short game after I had a bunch of questions

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after the

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masters and I get a fair number of questions related to wedge play in

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particular.

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And so I figured we'd do a class or a talk specifically about that.

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But if you have questions about other areas, feel free to post them.

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And as always, just go ahead and introduce yourself if you're on the chat and I

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haven't

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talked with you or worked with you in person before.

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So what's your name?

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Where you're at?

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Okay, I'm going to run through a handful of these questions.

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But as live ones come in, I'll jump over and answer them.

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So the first question that kind of helped trigger this was a question last week

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Franco.

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He asked, "How do I avoid getting under and stuck with a closed club face?"

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So many, many short game problems originate from having the club getting inside

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or under

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plane and having the club shut.

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The problem with that is that if you used really good cast pattern and just did

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a normal kind

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of short game pivot, you would tend to hit it fat or thin and at the very least

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tend to hit a lot of leading edge contact.

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So you'd hit the front edge of the end of the ground leaving you very little

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margin of

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No.

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So as far as getting the club stuck in the inside, they're a handful of, or

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they're a

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small handful of culprits that will cause that pattern.

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One from the face on look, most good wedge players when I look at their 3D

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graphs tend

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to have a slight shift towards the target in the backswing.

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If you tend to have more of a shift into your right foot with some body

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rotation, you can

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see that if the body rotates and you shift that will tend to bring the club a

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little

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bit more inside compared to if you stayed a little bit more left and did the

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same basic

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body pivot.

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So if I shift and rotate versus if I stay more left having more of a tilt and

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rotate,

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that's one common culprit for getting the club stuck in inside.

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Second one would be related to the arms compared to the body.

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So most good wedge players will tend to keep their hands more or less in front

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of their

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chest.

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So if your takeaway is dominated by primarily to the trail arm pulling the club

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across your

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body.

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Now it's on the right side of your body, it's way back here.

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So that means in order to get the bottom of the swing out in front of the golf

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ball, I

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would have to rotate my body pretty aggressively and keep the arms back.

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Well by rotating my body, keeping the arms back, that's going to tend to

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produce too

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much power for these short little shots.

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And so that can cause the need to kind of stall or decelerate or release the

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arm.

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So if you keep your hands a little bit more in front of your chest, then that

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prevents

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the club from getting too far inside.

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In order to do so.

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So in order to keep the hands more in front of the chest, you're probably going

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to feel

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like there's more rotation with your hands as opposed to flexion, extension and

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abduction.

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So I'm not really pulling my arms across and closing like this.

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More or less keeping the wrists in about the same position and having a bit

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more rotation.

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If you're not used to that feeling of keeping the club face square through

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rotation, which

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looks a little bit more like that, it will tend to feel like it's very

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manipulated.

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the right hand on, it's very rare that you would pull the club dead inside with

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your left hand.

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So it's more natural that you're going to swing the club on plane, it's kind of

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a quick

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little hack fix.

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And he actually asked when he does it with one hand, specifically the trail

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hand, it

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was fine.

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What that probably tells me is that it's more of the left arm pulling across

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the lack of tilt.

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It's probably when he has both hands on the club, it's a little bit more of a

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body shift.

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Okay, I'll come back to Brian's question because it's less about the short game

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So Fred had a question about the short game kinematic sequence and the pelvis

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and chest

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grafts.

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Okay, so the short game kinematic sequence, for those of you who are unaware of

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the kinematic

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sequence, it's a 3D graft that shows the rotational speeds of different aspects

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of your body.

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With the full swing, there's a tendency that you'll see the lower body rotate

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first, then

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the upper body, then the arm, then the club, as far as the sequencing and order

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of transition.

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With the short game, what you'll tend to see is you'll still see that same

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order as far

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as lower body, upper body arms club.

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The club can go ahead of the arms sometimes, but you'll typically still see the

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same pattern.

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The biggest difference is you won't see a lot of acceleration peaking.

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So the phrase that I use is instead of rotating and then bracing with the short

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game shot,

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you'll tend to see a coasting pattern where basically the body and the arms are

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almost

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moving at the same speed all the way through the downswing.

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There's not a whole lot of acceleration, deceleration, or acceleration transfer

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of energy.

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So I use the metaphor quite a bit of an underhand toss is more similar to a

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wedge shot as far

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as the basic rules and the power source, so with an underhand toss, the

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shoulder is more

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my power source and my lower body and hand are more supporting my accuracy.

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With an overhand throw, I'm going to have more of a weight shift, more of this

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sequencing,

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and then more of a snap at the end, so that more of the transfer of energy from

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my lower

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body through the core and into the hands.

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So the kinematic sequence is going to look fairly flat.

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As far as the chest and the pelvis grafts, the rotations aren't that

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dramatically different

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other than you typically won't see a really big X factor stretch in transition.

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You will tend to see the upper body a little bit more open at setup and at

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impact compared

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to the pelvis, and the pelvis bend will stay relatively consistent.

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through.

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The bigger difference you'll see on 3D is more of the linear.

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So with the short game shot, you'll tend to see a little bit more of a drift of

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the upper

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body forward, and you'll tend to see a little bit more of a drift upward.

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You won't see quite as much down and back in the short game shot as you would

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in the

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full swing.

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So I'll answer the first kind of live question.

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So Dennis is asking about green side bunkers, maybe 30 yards of the pin, so a

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longer green

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side bunker shot.

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Much difficulty in determining how best they hit the longer sand shots.

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That is definitely, there's a reason that's a tough shot.

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It's, you either have to use your standard green side shot and move the contact

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point

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very close to the golf ball, which gives you a little bit of risk of maybe

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catching it

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in, or what I recommend for most of my above 10 handicap players to do is to

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use more of

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like a 9 iron on that shot and use their basic bunker technique.

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I'm actually a fan of using 9 irons, wedges, 8 irons as a green side practice

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because it

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still forces you to use the back of the club.

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It actually encourages you to get the handle a little bit lower and it tends to

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, because

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the club is a little bit lower, it almost encourages you needing to get more of

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a steep

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angle attack, which is helpful for both creating spin or distance control, as

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well as for controlling

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the bottom of the swing.

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Most poor bunker players have a tendency to not get too steep.

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They can get outside, but it's not that they're getting too steep.

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What typically happens is they frequently get too wide with either having too

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much upper

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body tilt behind the ball this way, or from getting the arms too much behind

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that way.

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And then they tend to have the bottom of the swing too far back, so they'll

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either blade

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it or chunk it and leave in the bunker.

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So with a little longer club, it encourages more of that tilting behind the

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ball, so it

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forces you to work a little bit harder on the movement that I think is really

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helpful

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for good low point control or solemnness of contact in the bunkers.

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So for your standard 30-yard shot, I would probably go with more of a 9 irons

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wedge unless

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you have a lot of practice time and have really good bunker technique to begin

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with.

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With a sand wedge or 58 degree wedge, I'll tell most of my students to get good

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at hitting

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that about 15 yards as a baseline and then learn to take a little off of it,

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but it's

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hard to get that to go all the way to 30 yards.

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Because the second you start trying to swing harder, you'll have a tendency to

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get more

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lower body involved, which has a tendency to create more shaft lean, and that

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affects

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your low point.

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Most good bunker players will talk about the club passing the handle down to

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the bottom,

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and that's hard to do when you're swinging too hard from your body.

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Okay, we'll get back on to some of the email questions, and the next question

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was also

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from Fred.

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He was asking for, how do you control trajectory?

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So it's difficult with the shift of one to three inches towards the target and

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cast.

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He has trouble matching the pace of the arms as a cast, as well as the shift of

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the upper

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body.

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Well, so in general, I coach most of my students to avoid the three major death

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moves of wedges.

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Three major death moves being more of a sequencing error of pulling on the

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handle and creating

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whole lot of leg, number two, getting too much tilt behind the ball, although

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that's actually

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the first one I usually teach, and then the last one being more of an upper

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body dive.

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So a lot of golfers who have kind of a flinchy or yip tend to have more of the

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upper body

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diving down towards the golf ball that can create a little bit of too steep of

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an angle

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of attack forcing you to get shaft lean, taking away bounce, the whole host.

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Anyway, the main one that I'll focus on for usually the first lesson in order

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to get solid

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contact is keeping the shoulders more level, and usually that feels like

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keeping the right

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shoulder high.

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I'll show golfers how to figure out if they have too much side bend from the

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spine or

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the hips, but focusing on keeping that right shoulder high helps to create a

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place where

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you don't have to have a whole lot of handle drag in order to make solid

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contact.

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And so then you can control the trajectory by moving the ball position just

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slightly

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back in your stance, slightly forward, playing with little things like opening

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the club face

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slightly or bringing it more towards square.

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I never really like to get it too close unless you're hitting a low running

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specialty shot.

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And then you can play around with how much hand action you have down at the

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bottom, so

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creating more of the hit from the hands versus creating more of the hit from

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the body pivot.

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So if you have a little bit softer hands and more body pivot, it'll tend to

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have a little

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less spin and come out lower.

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If you tend to have a little bit more of the hands passing down to the bottom,

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it will

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tend to come a little bit higher with a little bit more spin.

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So if you're struggling with contact though, I would first go after shoulders

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level, and

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then I would go after the cast pattern.

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And one of the common things that I see with the cast pattern is the cast

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pattern is more

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of a whole arm and shoulder release.

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So basically putting energy into the club from the whole arm, it's not just

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throwing

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with the wrist.

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What I tend to see is some golfers cast it with the wrist but then because they

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keep this

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arm on the side and keep it in more of a loaded position, they get into this

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side bend pattern.

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So letting the arm, especially the trail arm, just fully lengthen and release

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to bring the

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club down towards impact while keeping the shoulders level tends to create an

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environment

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where you're going to have more solid contact.

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His next question, so Fred had a bunch of short game and was part of the reason

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we went

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this direction, foot pressure in the finesse and distance wedges.

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So with the full swing, we're going to have more of a load into the right leg,

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shift into

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the left leg, and then getting in more towards that left heel.

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With the finesse wedge, more of the pressure is going to stay in the left heel

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for the

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majority of the shot, and it's going to tend to be a little bit flatter.

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So I'll usually, let's say that this club is my foot and I'll usually draw it

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on the

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whiteboard and I'll basically say here's my toes, here's my heel, I'll say if

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you divide

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it in half, I want you to keep your pressure in this left half of your foot the

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entire

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swing.

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So basically keeping it from the ball of the foot backwards during the entire

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swing and

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not having a really aggressive or pronounced press into the ground the same way

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you would

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with your full swing.

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I do that usually by focusing on keeping the knees a little bit softer instead

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of having

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more of a bracing pattern on the way through.

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Alright I see a question come in, what causes a wedge shot to fall out of the

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sky quickly?

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So for the ball to fall out of the sky it's typically going to have less spin.

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Now frequently that combination happens when a golfer has too much side bend

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and they'll

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feel like the ball slides off the face because with that side bend it's easier

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to get a little

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bit of grass in between the ball and the club and it's easier to add a little

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bit too much

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locks and get the feeling of the ball sliding up the face.

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I tell most golfers if you ever have that feeling where the ball just slides up

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the face

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and comes out a little dead it's usually a result of side bend.

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There's a chance you could do it more with the wrist down at the bottom but it

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's almost

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always too much side bend, too much access to coming into the ball.

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With a 10 to 20 yard wedge shot, Dr. Neal was talking at a conference that I

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was speaking

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at and he said that most of the numbers are somewhere between 5 to 10 degrees

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of angle

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of attack with a lot of the better wedge players being closer to the 7 to 10

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range so a little

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bit steeper so if you can imagine in order to hit down 10 degrees and not have

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a whole

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lot of cut spin then the path would be let's say 6, 7 maybe upwards of 10

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degrees out to

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in so that pull of coming a little bit out to in is part of what gets the ball

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to launch

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a little bit lower and it tends to help with the clean contact so it doubles in

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clean

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contact helping to get the face and then basically having a little bit more of

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a pull

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pattern and that pull pattern comes from the shoulders being level a little bit

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more of

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a chop action with the arms instead of a lift action with the arms and more

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body turn on

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the way through cool see turf oh yeah so sliding up the face I would definitely

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do some awareness

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drills more on side then that's that sounds like that's exactly what's

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happening Rick is

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asking what causes high and mid handicappers to flip their rips their wrist on

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chip shots

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um okay so flipping the wrist on chip shots it can come from a variety of

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different problem patterns

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I would say the most common would be starting with your hands too far forward

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for the higher

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handicap they start with the hands too far forward and then instead of let's

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say I would say instead

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of having more of the impact and hit controlled by the body pivot and arm

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straightening they tend

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to control it more with the hand straightening so what they do is they set up

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with the hands too

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far forward like this and then flip the hands down at the bottom um moving the

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bottom of swing

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backward usually what I do first is I'll have them get set up and then I'll

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take them to impact

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and I'll basically say okay where your hands are at impact we're going to bring

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the club around

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and I'll come to this point and kind of guide them into hitting my hands more

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with the grip working

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around instead of hitting it more with either the club head or getting the grip

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going straight

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towards the target a lot of poor amateur or higher handicap golfers have a

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tendency to have the handle

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moving straight towards impact or sorry straight towards the target through

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impact as opposed to

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keeping the handle moving left and keeping the club face more let's say quiet

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or or square

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Peter asked how to chip off very tight almost bare hard pain so when you're ch

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ipping off bare

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hard pin there's two different options you can either play a little bit more

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shaft lean with the

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hands but then you have to be really careful to make sure that the body pivot

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is hitting it on the

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way through because if you get a little bit more hand action with that shaft

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lean you don't have

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the bounce to save you so that becomes a real problem what I coach most golfers

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to do is to get

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that to lengthen the right side of their spine and basically get that right

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side of the rib cage

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really tall that helps encourage more of a left path steep angle of attack and

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it allows you to

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cast and even flip a little bit and not hit it fat so you can use the the old

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stand outly where

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are your fingers along your leg and basically trying to get the left hand lower

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at setup and

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then pretty much staying there the the thing off tight lies is the common

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approach of hands back

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handle forward tilt behind almost always creates bounce issues so if you're not

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very good with

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controlling the bottom the swing while keeping that shaft lean I tend to err on

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a little bit

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more left tilt let me jump back to a couple of these emails and then I'll get

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to I see a couple

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more questions coming in and I had a few questions unrelated to short game but

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that's what how these

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live Q&A's works so Brian asked about down cocking the wrists in the downswing

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so basically why is it

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bad to have too much radial what are the problems it causes as well as maybe a

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drill to solve it

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so basically what he's describing is what what was commonly taught as lag is

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increasing this

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radial deviation are basically hinging the left wrist like this now what what

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you'll see on 3d

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is that the left wrist might increase a degree or two during the downswing it

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doesn't change very

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much at all in fact many higher handicap golfers who have a look of more of a

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cast like this will

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increase their radial deviation more than golfers who look like they have more

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lag and it's because

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of the the 3d aspect if I get it more closer to the camera like this it will

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tend to look like it has

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more more or sorry less lag even if I have more radial deviation where if I

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have it back this way

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even if I have more ulnar deviation it will tend to look as if it has more lag

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to it because you're

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looking more at the angle instead of oblique to the angle so what a lot of golf

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ers do is they

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pull down quite like this trying to create extra lag and hinge but the problem

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is that does two

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things one when you really hinge this way you can see and you can try it your

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wrist will naturally

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want to extend and the extension of the wrist tends to open the club face so

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now I have a situation

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where the club is very vertical and the club face is really open so it presents

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a problem of how do

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I deliver a shallow angle of attack to the ball and how do I get that club face

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to square so what

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more golfers do is when they're trying to create or when more of the tour

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pattern would be is trying

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to create more of the load in the extension of the trail wrist as opposed to

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extension of the lead

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wrist and getting that face to rotate sooner which requires or almost always is

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accompanied by earlier

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ulnar deviation so not trying to hinge it as much as possible but focusing more

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on the club face

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staying square or the wrist staying neutral tends to prevent that over setting

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up at the top so if

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you have a you know as a simple drill I have you can take a piece of tape or

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put a ruler or a tee

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or something in a golf club and you can basically make sure that that wrist

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stays pretty straight

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if the wrist doesn't extend it's very hard to over set the wrist okay Chris uh

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Chris asked watching

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Jordan speed the master's last week it looked like he doesn't hinge on chip pit

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shots looks like he

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rolls the wrist under thoughts um or thought that was not correct it's uh it's

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becoming a more common

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pattern um you've got guys like Jason day um and Steve Stricker who kind of

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popularized the

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basically almost keeping the same amount of hinge ulnar deviation setting up

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more square and then

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controlling that low point um more by the upper body getting far enough forward

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um as opposed to

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some golfers who teach a little bit quicker wrist set um you know I tend to

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personally

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gravitate a little bit more towards that speed pattern that you were seeing the

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the key there is

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um if you are going to if you're looking at from a geometry standpoint if you

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're going to keep this

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part wide then I cannot get any of this behind the ball whatsoever you're gonna

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hear me say this um

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probably multiple times today but um if you're going to do more of that pattern

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where you're

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preventing the the wrist from hinging and you're basically keeping it um that

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ulnar deviation then

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you have to get more of the steepness from staying forward kind of like this uh

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but I tend to find

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it works out pretty well um so the uh the under flip part of that is a is more

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a result of

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not letting that wrist flip um or extend sorry to close the face and the under

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flip part especially

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on the really tight lies will help with getting more of a bounce contact so the

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key is just like a

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high handicap or hitting a slice they'll tend to lunge more forward and use

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that under flip

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well that pattern creates a slight pull which gives you enough friction um and

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the steepness of

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angle of attack but using the bounce so it's a pretty good combination for um

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especially really

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tight grass like they were playing with at the masses okay lee was asking how

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to keep the ball

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from checking when striking chip shots want the ball to hit the ground and

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start rolling um if

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you're getting a lot of spin uh there are um okay so the the main factors for

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spin are club head speed

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and solidness of contact the if you make really solid contact then you're going

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to tend to get a

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lot of friction which is going to create a lot of speed um and if you have a

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lot of club head speed

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you're going to tend to create more spin so that's part of the reason why tour

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pros tend to make

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contact away from the center of the club either or slow on the bottom of the

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face or slightly more

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on the toe so that they can swing faster in order to create more spin so if you

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're trying to take

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off spin um what you can try to do is take the hands a little bit more out of

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it so that it's more

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of a body pivot release um and try to hit it a little bit more in the center of

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the club instead

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of um low or even on the toe but the big one i would say is more um basically

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if you if you move

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contact from away from the center to the center you're going to get a lot more

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energy transfer

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so that by itself is going to require that you swing a little bit slower um but

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i would i'd say

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that's one option the second option of course is you can always go down in

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clubs you know basically

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take away some of the loft um but usually if you get more of the body release

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of everything coming

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through together without having a whole lot of hand speed down at the bottom it

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keeps the club

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head speed a little bit lower okay um mark asked about um when you're just off

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the green so like

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three yards off the green and you've got a little bit thicker kind of grabby

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grass so whether it's a

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like a poana or like a Bermuda if you've got kind of more of that grass that's

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going to absorb a

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lot of the energy um what do you do so when it when you have grass that can

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potentially absorb the

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energy you want to have a little bit steeper angle of attack and um in order to

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this is almost

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the opposite of how do i take off spin you're going to take off spin on that

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shot because it's

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00:28:53.280 --> 00:28:56.550
in grabby grass and it's going to be virtually impossible to get ball first

519
00:28:56.550 --> 00:28:57.520
contact you're going

520
00:28:57.520 --> 00:29:03.400
to get um friction reduction from having uh debris in between the clubface and

521
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:04.800
the golf ball so if

522
00:29:04.800 --> 00:29:11.580
you set up with a little bit more um left shoulder low and then um the the big

523
00:29:11.580 --> 00:29:13.440
thing on that is making

524
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.390
sure that you're going to use the bounce of the club so making sure that on the

525
00:29:17.390 --> 00:29:18.480
way coming through

526
00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:25.120
that the loft of the club or the face has very little rotation golfers who tend

527
00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:25.840
to have a little

528
00:29:25.840 --> 00:29:31.760
bit more face rotation which is great for the full swing um that will cause

529
00:29:31.760 --> 00:29:33.280
more bounce issues

530
00:29:33.280 --> 00:29:37.360
and when you're in that grabby grass it will tend the to get the club to kind

531
00:29:37.360 --> 00:29:39.280
of stall or stop so

532
00:29:39.280 --> 00:29:43.550
really feeling more of what we talked about earlier of a little bit of that

533
00:29:43.550 --> 00:29:44.720
under release where the

534
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:49.410
palm stays facing up and the face stays a little bit more open and then making

535
00:29:49.410 --> 00:29:50.720
sure that it's not

536
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:55.460
sliding under by making sure that you're hitting more of almost the pull

537
00:29:55.460 --> 00:29:56.640
pattern with the upper

538
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:01.590
body slightly more on top that combination tends to work really well um out of

539
00:30:01.590 --> 00:30:02.800
out of bermuda out

540
00:30:02.800 --> 00:30:07.510
of really thick rough when you um don't want to have to swing too hard so if

541
00:30:07.510 --> 00:30:08.720
you're just slightly

542
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:18.690
off the green falls in that category um okay so chris also asked um keeping the

543
00:30:18.690 --> 00:30:20.000
upper body and

544
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:24.360
lower body connected so this is separate from short game um but more getting

545
00:30:24.360 --> 00:30:25.840
into just kind of some

546
00:30:25.840 --> 00:30:31.430
physical of transition um so he was asking about keeping the upper body and

547
00:30:31.430 --> 00:30:32.880
lower body connected

548
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:38.850
which muscles are engaged uh this is a common pattern i've had a a handful of

549
00:30:38.850 --> 00:30:40.160
cases in the last

550
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:44.940
month or so of um golfers coming in knowing that they want to have the lower

551
00:30:44.940 --> 00:30:46.000
body lead first

552
00:30:46.560 --> 00:30:50.560
but doing it in a way that doesn't really influence the club i'll show you what

553
00:30:50.560 --> 00:30:50.880
i mean

554
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:56.560
so the i'll give the answer first the main muscles that are going to connect

555
00:30:56.560 --> 00:30:57.680
the pelvis to the rib

556
00:30:57.680 --> 00:31:03.790
gauge are your abdominals and your back muscles so basically having the um

557
00:31:03.790 --> 00:31:05.920
internal leak external

558
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:12.220
leak transverse abdominis rectus abdominis um and then multividus or your par

559
00:31:12.220 --> 00:31:14.160
aspinals um and

560
00:31:14.800 --> 00:31:23.130
primarily your transverse spinalis uh those guys are the core connection of the

561
00:31:23.130 --> 00:31:25.280
um pelvis to the

562
00:31:25.280 --> 00:31:32.960
ribcage what can happen is some golfers get more like disassociation kind of

563
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:34.000
like this

564
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:39.410
but no energy moves from the pelvis to the ribcage it kind of gets absorbed in

565
00:31:39.410 --> 00:31:39.920
the back

566
00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:43.570
or i should say it doesn't really move all the way into the club so what i

567
00:31:43.570 --> 00:31:44.560
frequently do is

568
00:31:44.560 --> 00:31:47.760
i'll go up to the top of swinging apply a little bit of resistance and i'll say

569
00:31:47.760 --> 00:31:48.640
when you turn your

570
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:54.410
lower body i should feel that effort getting into the handle of the club and in

571
00:31:54.410 --> 00:31:56.000
order to even do it

572
00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.630
against myself like this i feel that my abs are getting a little bit more

573
00:32:00.630 --> 00:32:03.040
turned on so some golfers

574
00:32:03.040 --> 00:32:09.340
in order to sequence properly have more of a feeling of their uh body working

575
00:32:09.340 --> 00:32:10.960
more as one unit

576
00:32:10.960 --> 00:32:16.480
instead of a feeling of big disassociation um and then almost having to

577
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:22.560
re-speed up the arms in the hands so the big ones would be tbi internal oblique

578
00:32:22.560 --> 00:32:29.670
external oblique rectus being more from like big power generation not

579
00:32:29.670 --> 00:32:30.960
necessarily that connection

580
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.760
so um lots of your core activation breathing dead bugs that style

581
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:47.840
um for ed also asked one non short game related question so as far as exercises

582
00:32:47.840 --> 00:32:48.720
for increasing

583
00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:53.880
distance and preventing injury he was hoping that we could talk maybe about

584
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:55.680
both exercises that

585
00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:01.620
improve distance and exercises that reduce injury risk and what would be five

586
00:33:01.620 --> 00:33:02.640
non-negotiable

587
00:33:02.640 --> 00:33:10.320
exercises so exercise is always a tricky topic um i've i study exercise like i

588
00:33:10.320 --> 00:33:11.920
go to more classes

589
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:18.950
and discuss exercise protocols and theory more than i do um going to say golf

590
00:33:18.950 --> 00:33:21.040
swing style classes

591
00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:26.050
i i get a lot of my ideas as far as how the golf swing works from understanding

592
00:33:26.050 --> 00:33:27.360
how the body moves

593
00:33:27.360 --> 00:33:31.920
and then um comparing that against a lot of the 3d data that i've had access to

594
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.160
um so the hard

595
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:39.600
thing is from an exercise standpoint if we're going after distance and injury

596
00:33:39.600 --> 00:33:40.720
the main thing

597
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.830
the main thing from an injury perspective is to distribute force through your

598
00:33:43.830 --> 00:33:44.800
whole body

599
00:33:44.800 --> 00:33:50.930
and keep joints closer to their end range of motion for longer um so not going

600
00:33:50.930 --> 00:33:52.240
to end range of motion

601
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:57.680
with high speed and not absorbing like not having poor energy transfer from one

602
00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:58.800
joint to the next

603
00:33:58.800 --> 00:34:03.680
i would say from an energy standpoint the most common places where that breaks

604
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:04.560
down is either

605
00:34:04.560 --> 00:34:09.520
at the hips the lower back the rib cage or the shoulder blade so i would really

606
00:34:09.520 --> 00:34:11.520
focus on um hip

607
00:34:11.520 --> 00:34:19.380
mobility and strength exercises um pelvis control and SI joint um stability

608
00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:21.760
exercises rib cage

609
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:27.350
mobility disassociation and all the planes and um i use a lot of aldoa

610
00:34:27.350 --> 00:34:28.720
technique uh

611
00:34:28.720 --> 00:34:31.890
exercises in order to try to create some more space there and some more

612
00:34:31.890 --> 00:34:33.120
mobility in those joints

613
00:34:33.120 --> 00:34:39.450
and then scapular control and really getting a good handle on the the shoulder

614
00:34:39.450 --> 00:34:40.320
blades because the

615
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:46.090
shoulder blade um can quickly if it starts to get too elevated or protracted

616
00:34:46.090 --> 00:34:47.280
can make it really

617
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:53.770
hard to do good shallowing movements um and from a longevity standpoint forces

618
00:34:53.770 --> 00:34:55.360
you to do a little

619
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.040
bit more action from the elbow and the wrist and less from the trunk so that

620
00:35:00.040 --> 00:35:01.760
can relate to either

621
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:06.740
forearm wrist neck issues or you may then actually compensate with the lower

622
00:35:06.740 --> 00:35:08.320
back so many golfers

623
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:14.080
have a tight rib cage and then that stress either goes down into the lower back

624
00:35:14.080 --> 00:35:15.600
or up into the neck

625
00:35:15.600 --> 00:35:22.240
and shoulder so exercises that work on um the ribs movement would probably be

626
00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:24.560
my my biggest

627
00:35:24.560 --> 00:35:30.380
tip as far as injury prevention um he was asking about hypertrophy and the the

628
00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:31.680
hard thing there is

629
00:35:31.680 --> 00:35:39.200
there are there's not enough research as far as to hypertrophy of the muscles

630
00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:40.080
and its relationship

631
00:35:40.080 --> 00:35:46.640
to club head speed there are too many um anecdotal issues of golfers on tour

632
00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:48.800
getting bigger getting

633
00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:56.720
stronger and losing club head speed um you know some as many as uh ten you know

634
00:35:56.720 --> 00:35:57.840
i've heard of one

635
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:02.100
student who were one tour bro who lost about 10 miles per hour from doing about

636
00:36:02.100 --> 00:36:02.800
six months of

637
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:09.150
strength training so um in the in the global sense i don't think you have to do

638
00:36:09.150 --> 00:36:09.760
a ton of

639
00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.600
hypertrophy training to improve your ball speed but if you were i would

640
00:36:14.600 --> 00:36:16.240
probably say the safest

641
00:36:16.240 --> 00:36:21.530
areas to go after would be more your your core and your hips um possibly scap

642
00:36:21.530 --> 00:36:22.560
ular control

643
00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:29.030
but definitely um be a little cautious with too much internal rotation training

644
00:36:29.030 --> 00:36:29.440
so whether

645
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:34.190
it's bench press or lat pull down or pull ups um those can create some some

646
00:36:34.190 --> 00:36:35.840
problematic patterns

647
00:36:35.840 --> 00:36:39.740
i've had a handful of juniors uh who start taking weightlifting class and then

648
00:36:39.740 --> 00:36:41.440
we have to rebalance

649
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:46.320
their their face and path because of too much internal rotation exercises or

650
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:47.360
hypertrophy training

651
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:54.380
in the gym um okay let me see i got another couple questions coming in um do

652
00:36:54.380 --> 00:36:55.600
you advocate

653
00:36:55.600 --> 00:37:00.000
changing alignment based on angle attack for example wedges have a steeper

654
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:00.720
angle of attack

655
00:37:00.720 --> 00:37:08.870
so it pushes the path to the right so would you um aim more left uh my my gut

656
00:37:08.870 --> 00:37:11.200
instinct on that is

657
00:37:11.200 --> 00:37:17.760
changing alignment based on the angle of attack i wouldn't necessarily change

658
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:19.600
it just based on

659
00:37:19.600 --> 00:37:25.380
the angle of attack um because the the relationship would be more the face

660
00:37:25.380 --> 00:37:26.960
alignment combined with

661
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.890
the angle of attack so you could have the same angle of attack and very

662
00:37:29.890 --> 00:37:31.200
different face alignments

663
00:37:31.200 --> 00:37:37.670
and your start line would be would be different um so i would probably go more

664
00:37:37.670 --> 00:37:38.960
off of face alignment

665
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:44.960
and in in terms of how open close you're setting up with the club face um

666
00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.880
rather than the angle of

667
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:51.850
attack i think the angle of attack can help negate some of the club face

668
00:37:51.850 --> 00:37:52.960
opening and create more

669
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:58.240
of a pole situation um but i wouldn't just make my setup changes based on that

670
00:37:58.240 --> 00:38:01.360
uh okay ed is coming

671
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:07.300
in with uh with a finesse wedge i seem to pull the ball left um okay so you

672
00:38:07.300 --> 00:38:09.360
want to rule out or

673
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:14.310
you'd want to figure out is the pole coming more from too much face rotation so

674
00:38:14.310 --> 00:38:15.440
the club face is

675
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.930
just coming in uh too close or is the pole um coming in more from the path

676
00:38:20.930 --> 00:38:22.640
being way to the left or

677
00:38:22.640 --> 00:38:30.170
possibly um alignment i if it's more of the path going to the left um if you

678
00:38:30.170 --> 00:38:32.320
have a good trajectory

679
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.020
and you're hitting a solid and it's just a pole then i would potentially adjust

680
00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:38.160
my stance there's no

681
00:38:38.160 --> 00:38:42.430
real rule of thumb that you have to be a certain amount open my gut is you're

682
00:38:42.430 --> 00:38:44.080
probably getting more

683
00:38:44.080 --> 00:38:48.300
of the pole from too much face rotation which would lead towards a diggy mis

684
00:38:48.300 --> 00:38:49.120
pattern and if

685
00:38:49.120 --> 00:38:55.150
that's more of the case um then i'd work on the the single arm releases for the

686
00:38:55.150 --> 00:38:56.560
finesse wedge and

687
00:38:56.560 --> 00:39:02.150
work on um keeping the same loft and face relationship through the follow

688
00:39:02.150 --> 00:39:03.520
through instead of letting

689
00:39:03.520 --> 00:39:07.970
it really twist over like the full swing uh ed also had another question i'm

690
00:39:07.970 --> 00:39:09.120
having frequent

691
00:39:09.120 --> 00:39:13.440
thin shots with my irons i focus on the steeps and shallows but to continue

692
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.120
struggle the direction

693
00:39:15.120 --> 00:39:20.720
is good but thin okay so the main culprits for a thin shot with the full swing

694
00:39:20.720 --> 00:39:21.600
are either going

695
00:39:21.600 --> 00:39:26.300
to be more of the under flip style release which would be more typically lead

696
00:39:26.300 --> 00:39:28.880
arm training um or

697
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:34.120
it would be too much uh early extension and side bend so either the body is

698
00:39:34.120 --> 00:39:35.680
getting a little bit too

699
00:39:35.680 --> 00:39:41.720
shallow moving the low point backward or the um release is getting a little bit

700
00:39:41.720 --> 00:39:42.480
too scoopy

701
00:39:42.480 --> 00:39:50.360
too flippy moving the low point backward um so i would evaluate if it's um the

702
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:51.920
easiest way to be

703
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:58.250
would be to look at video um from the face on uh you look more at the release

704
00:39:58.250 --> 00:39:59.840
and seeing through

705
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:04.520
impact is the right hand staying under you know all the way into the follow

706
00:40:04.520 --> 00:40:05.920
through or is the right

707
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:10.580
hand um getting a little bit more on top that would uh if it's staying under

708
00:40:10.580 --> 00:40:11.760
that can lead towards

709
00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:16.030
that thin pattern or from the down the line checking to see um if the butt is

710
00:40:16.030 --> 00:40:17.360
moving too much in towards

711
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:23.130
the golf ball or the knee is getting out past the feet um that would be one

712
00:40:23.130 --> 00:40:24.720
other area that you could

713
00:40:24.720 --> 00:40:30.160
potentially look at i heard that there was an interesting question that came in

714
00:40:30.160 --> 00:40:37.040
uh but it looks like uh that was Ed's question so thank you Ed for jumping over

715
00:40:37.040 --> 00:40:38.000
from email

716
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:42.890
and moving it here to more the facebook pattern or the youtube pattern all

717
00:40:42.890 --> 00:40:46.560
right i think

718
00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:55.350
that about covers all of the um all of the email questions i had in so if you

719
00:40:55.350 --> 00:40:56.400
have any last minute

720
00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:02.600
questions um post them right now if i don't get to them i will uh save them for

721
00:41:02.600 --> 00:41:04.240
the next youtube

722
00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:09.130
or uh yeah youtube live event um i hope you're still enjoying these um we're

723
00:41:09.130 --> 00:41:11.760
gonna be uh making a

724
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:17.080
little announcement with the site um so always working on stuff but um thanks

725
00:41:17.080 --> 00:41:18.160
again it's beautiful

726
00:41:18.160 --> 00:41:22.560
out here so i'm probably gonna head over and maybe do a little practice myself

727
00:41:22.560 --> 00:41:24.160
um if you have any

728
00:41:24.160 --> 00:41:28.250
questions that we didn't get to cover either about short game or about the full

729
00:41:28.250 --> 00:41:29.680
swings please send

730
00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:36.960
them to me through the email at support@golfsmartacademy.com um there's another

731
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.560
youtube video on the three

732
00:41:38.560 --> 00:41:42.690
danger wedge or the three danger moves of wedgeplay if you're struggling that

733
00:41:42.690 --> 00:41:43.680
'll i'll demonstrate

734
00:41:43.680 --> 00:41:46.270
kind of the three moves you really want to avoid if you're struggling with

735
00:41:46.270 --> 00:41:47.600
finesse or distance wedges

736
00:41:47.600 --> 00:41:53.750
and if you haven't checked it out of course um take a look at my book and check

737
00:41:53.750 --> 00:41:54.720
out my website

738
00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:58.310
where i've got lots of videos discussing in detail the different areas the

739
00:41:58.310 --> 00:41:59.760
different concepts and

740
00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:05.730
drills on how to train it so thanks again for coming in for another youtube

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00:42:05.730 --> 00:42:07.200
live and we will

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00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:14.320
hopefully post another one of these very shortly
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