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Improve Arm Extension for Better Swing Power and Control
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Understand the role of arm extension in generating swing speed.
- Identify the difference between training for speed vs. control in your swing.
- Learn how proper arm movement can enhance your follow-through for better impact.
In this Q&A session, we dive into the importance of arm extension in your follow-through and how it affects your swing power and path control. Gain insights on training movements for effective speed generation and consistent ball striking.
Video Transcript
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Alright guys, welcome to the part two edition of the stream on the big
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movements. If you
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have any questions please post them in the chat window and I'll get to as many
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as I
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can. But as you can see I still had a bunch of email questions that I didn't
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have a chance
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in to get to. So let me know if there's any audio problems. I got the mic going
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so hopefully
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we're pretty good. I didn't mean to time it perfectly but hopefully some of you
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're jumping
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over from the Duke Kansas game and hopefully we can have an exciting little
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half time show
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here. Without further ado, okay Robbie sent a question in about the arm
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extension in the
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follow through. Is it better to train it as part of how you're generating speed
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or is
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it better to train it as part of how you're controlling path? His comment was
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the typically
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finds it works better training it with speed. Well, I'm not too big on absol
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utes because
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it could be related to how the golfer is controlling the path or it could be
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how they're controlling
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the speed. One thing one little kind of insight that I'll give is if it is more
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of a power
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related issue then training positions is usually not as effective as training
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movements. And
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so when you're talking about arm extension that can be more related to how they
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're powering
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the swing because what will happen is a lot of golfers down at the bottom will
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feel a
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sense of power by bracing and flipping the wrist creating a lot of kind of
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tension in
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the forearms right around impact versus having that continued motorcycle where
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the hands
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are still slightly ahead of the clubhead and the body is just continuing on the
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way through.
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So I tend to agree with Robbie's question that I think it's more of a creating
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speed
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element that a lot of golfers just feel stronger when they have more forearm
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tension and then
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when they have that forearms tension the body is going to stall right around
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impact. So
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training like my hit your arms drill or hit my arms tends to create more of a
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feeling
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of power with a different part of your body and that tends to help really well
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with the
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getting the better flat spot or arm extension. His second question was is pron
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ation of the
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trail foot so he was only last time about the trail foot and I talked about how
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ideally
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the sequence is the trail foot will tend to bank and then it will extend and
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then after
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impact it will rotate mostly because of the rotation of the pivot. His question
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was is
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that pronation of the trail foot independent or is it a reaction of other
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movements? Nothing
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is truly independent but if you think about it from a more global picture right
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if we think
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about it as I'm trying to push through the ground and I'm trying to kind of
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spiral that
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leg in a movement kind of like this so I'm letting my arm kind of almost mirror
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the way
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my foot is pushing against the ground. Well in order to use the big muscles of
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my hip my
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foot has to create an anchor my foot has to create kind of a connection point
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and so
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when I start banking that foot it's kind of part of pushing against the inside
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of the
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foot to allow for that hip to really create some some force because it'll be
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have a stronger
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fix point and be in a better position or relationship so it's not truly
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independent just as in like
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just by rolling the foot isn't going to make your sequence any get any better
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but if you're
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using the foot and the hip together the foot will bank slightly before the hip
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will go
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into extension and external rotation. Where should you look related that
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question? Where
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should you look if students struggle first with that first trail foot movement
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so if
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they struggle with more of that pronation the foot where should you look. First
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thing
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you want to do is just kind of Robbie's coach so I give him kind of the coach's
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perspective.
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First thing you want to do is just a basic kind of form flat and arches test if
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you're
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good with the feet you can take off the shoes and you can look at the mobility
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if the foot
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has a hard time banking inside on its own you're going to have a hard time
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doing it
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with speed in the golf swing. So first thing is just clearing that physical
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capability.
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The second piece would then be if they have a good enough release where they
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could handle
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having side bend and continue rotating because what'll happen is a lot of golf
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ers you start
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banking that foot and they start either catching it thin or fat or more on the
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toe because
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they haven't trained a good enough white position. So work on make sure they
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have a release that
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can support a good foot action and then screen the foot make sure that the foot
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is working
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properly that usually gets that first movement. Okay Bazz had a question about
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the power package.
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I don't have the power package training aid but it looks very much like a swing
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guy except
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it has a second handle coming off of it kind of like this. So the thing I do
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like it better
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than the swing guy. I've mentioned for the problem with the swing guy is it
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really emphasizes
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the radial deviation and it emphasizes rehinging on the second side or on the
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follow through
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side. It can help for not bending the arms because typically when you bend the
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arm in
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the follow through it would be hard to also get the swing guy up against the
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forearm. But
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typically what I see is golfers who practice a lot with that end up getting
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more of kind
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of an arm dominant pull in transition. So not a huge fan but the power package
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emphasizes
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a little bit more of the trail risk getting that extension. So I like it a
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little bit
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better but it does. I don't think it teaches the right arm rotation quite as
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well as it
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needs to. So it's more of kind of a transition and setting in top of the swing
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trainer for
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me than really a dynamic downswing trainer. But it's better than the swing guy.
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So if
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you're looking to improve your extension of the wrist it's not a bad training
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aid for
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working at home. Okay. Guy or Guy, I'm not sure what part of the world he's in,
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he asked
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about the lead knee motion. So the lead knee motion in transition basically
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internal external
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trying to get looking at where the knee is happening. So I'm going to lower the
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camera
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so we can kind of see what's going on here. So here's one of the tricky things.
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What
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the question relates to is in the transition of basically okay if the knee
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stays in like
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this and I shift that's commonly referred to as internal rotation of the hip.
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And then
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if I get to the top of the swing and as I'm shifting that knee goes out that's
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typically
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referred to as external rotation of the hip or sometimes it's referred to as
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external
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rotation in the knee. By the book like the true knee rotation would actually
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happen more
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at the ankle like this. So when I turn that foot in that's the tibia rotating
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in and when
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I turn the foot out that's the tibia rotating out. So that's the true internal
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external rotation
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of the foot. So if I did external rotate or sorry of the knee if I did external
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rotation
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of the knee that's the same thing as the knee pointing in. So actually going
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that way would
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have more external rotation of the knee where if I go more out like this that
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would actually
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be more internal rotation of the knee. So the hard thing is the description
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that is most
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common doesn't really match the anatomical relationship. So the real question
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is do I
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want to have that knee stay put as I shift or should it work towards the target
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. I'll
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still be going into internal rotation. It's not a big difference as far as what
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's happening
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here at the hip as in. If I go this way I'm going into internal rotation if I
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go that
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way it's going into internal rotation. The big difference is typically what's
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happening
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with the trail leg and what's happening with the upper body. Ideally yes it's
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going to
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have a little bit more of a look of following. You don't want to have that look
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of the knee
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coming in. That's typically from a little bit too much upper body lunge or from
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going
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into that foot mechanic of spinning the heel as opposed to banking that foot.
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So I think
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the look he's going for and describing is correct but the word of internal
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external
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rotation unfortunately isn't quite accurate. Okay and then his last, his follow
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up question
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was kind of what does that play in rotation. As I demonstrated it's more of a
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sign of where
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the rotation is coming from. Here's how I look at it. So you want to take the
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big picture
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of what's the general movement and the general movement in the can be broken
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down into torsion.
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So in the there's two different types of torsion. I would have positive torsion
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which
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is when let's say it's to the left it would be flexing forward in rotating or
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negative
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torsion. So I would be extending and rotating. Those are a combination of
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movements but blend
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into one. So it's called torsion. In the backswing we tend to have negative t
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orsion and then
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in the downswing we're going to have positive torsion and then during the
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release we're
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going back into negative torsion and when you look at it more from that
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perspective of
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the global picture of what's happening at the spine then what's happening at
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the legs
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should match what you're trying to do with the spine. So it's not just that if
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you get
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the proper knee action it will work perfectly. The key is making sure that the
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foot, the
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knee, the hip are all related to what the spine is doing. Alright I want to get
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through
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as many of these as I can. Bob asked a tricky question. He asked what muscle
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groups initiate
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the key movement. So what muscle groups initiate arm shallowing, the Jackson 5
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and the motorcycle.
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So here's where unfortunately my brain would go. Yes Mike, thanks for tuning in
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from Sweden.
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There's your shout out. I appreciate you. Okay back to Bob's question. What
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initiates
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the arm shallowing? What initiates the Jackson 5? The trick is going to be what
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are we feeling
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what is actually triggering it? And where does the motion take place? So like
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let's take
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for example if I were doing a bicep curl, right? So if I was doing a bicep curl
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and you
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had sensors or if you had EMG measuring parts in my body the first thing you
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would see would
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be an impulse in my foot. Actually you would see my core and then you would see
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my foot
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and then you would see all the support up until the bicep. Then I would have a
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high activity
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of the bicep. So you'd say that this motion was a bicep activity but it started
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all the
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way down at the feet or in the core depending on how you're looking at it. So
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when we get
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to the big movements like the arm shallowing the Jackson 5 and the motorcycle
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what initiates
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the movement may not be where you're ultimately going to feel it. I know that's
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a little bit
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pretty. So for example the arm shallow is really initiated more by the foot and
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the core and
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the rib cage rotation and having a little bit of reduced grip pressure
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especially in
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the trail forearm. So many amateurs tend to really squeeze and pull down with
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the forearm
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as opposed to letting that forearm be soft and letting the speed come more from
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my body
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pulling on it and that body pull is initiating more at the feet because you
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need a fixed point
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in order to create force in a forcible way. So the arm shallow is initiated
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from the lower
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body or the core but you can feel it if you're actively doing it either in the
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lead forearm
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or in the trail shoulder you may even feel it more as a flexion kind of
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combination
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of the motorcycle movement. But that's again where you feel it and where the
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movement is
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actually originating might not be the same thing. So that's the arm shallow.
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his question was if when or sorry so with the motorcycle his question was is it
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more of
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an arm pull or core rotation on the way through. So basically here we'll switch
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legs so that
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I can rotate that way easier. So if I'm going on the way through the question
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was basically
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is it an arm pull in order to keep that rotation of the wrist or is it more a
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body pull and
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the arm just kind of rotates but follows the body pull. You know guys who
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showed with you
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can do either so whether it's more of like a Phil Mickelson upper body dominant
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style
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where the arms are pulling it into position or more of like a Ben Hogan style
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where the
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body is pulling through. You can do either but the more repeatable pattern is
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the body
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pulls through and the arm just kind of stays a little bit softer in order to
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control the
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movement as opposed to really driving a powerful arm activity.
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Then the last one was about the Jackson 5. So I already talked to it's a little
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bit more
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going from the feet rather than from the hips. The key is that the foot and the
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hip and the
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spine kind of all work together in that side tilt Jackson 5 pattern. So I'm a
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big fan of
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using the feet properly to help get the hips and core working properly as well
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as long as
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the arms in the club are in a position where you can take advantage of it.
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So we'll take a quick break from the emails and we'll answer some of the
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questions because
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I see them starting to really pour in. Okay so first question was from William
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how to prevent
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early extension when performing the Jackson 5. The key thing there is when you
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are doing
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the Jackson 5 to make sure that it's going in the slightly left of the target
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not in
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the direction of the hips. So when I teach the Jackson 5 it's a lateral
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movement like
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this but then when I go to the top of the swing a lot of golfers still go
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lateral with
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the direction of the pelvis and they start going that way. So what you have to
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feel is
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that it's actually going a little bit more backwards. So if I was doing let's
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say a better
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version or a more swing and a related version of the Jackson 5 it would
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actually be more
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like I was going like this where the hips were going back 45 instead of purely
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at the
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target. That helps my body flex forward which is part of that positive torsion
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pattern.
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So that's the other piece is making sure that you're using your abs with that
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Jackson 5
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and not just using too much of your back in order to move your hips. You had a
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second
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question he got here first so he gets two questions answered. Ideally when does
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the club
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catch up with the hands after impact both for driver and six iron. For driver I
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use
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the reference of about chef parallel is where you know the guys like Jordan
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speed or Joe
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Durant or Jim Furyk or Henrik Stenson like guys who tend to be have really good
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ball
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striking statistics. The club will catch up with them a little bit later here.
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With an
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iron it's probably closer to about chef 45. Alright Craig working on the
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motorcycle move
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but still can't get my hands forward enough. Do I need more motorcycle or could
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it be something
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else. Definitely could be something else. Motorcycle movement is solves two
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problems motorcycle
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movement let's get a little bit better in frame. So motorcycle movement solves
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the slice
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and it solves shaft lean because when I flex that lead wrist or twist the club
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if I didn't
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get my hands ahead the club face will be pointed really close so I'm going to
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hit massive
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pulls so it's a key component to getting the hands ahead and it squares the
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face to the
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path relationship which prevents the slice. That being said if your arm timing
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is if your
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arm timing is more going into kind of this under flip pattern where that right
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arm stays
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behind your body and the palm stays facing kind of more towards you instead of
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facing
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more away that will move the bottom the swing backward. It's very hard to do
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that and keep
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the motorcycle but it is possible because I could very easily keep that left
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wrist flat
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and release the right arm a little bit earlier so you'll start to see the club
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coming up
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through impact. So I do a lot of trail arm training got a couple new drills
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that I'll
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be filming tomorrow that have been working pretty well but things like the
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single arm
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drills throws the disc catcher all seem to help train that right arm getting
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more in
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front which helps support the motorcycle of the lead wrist. Okay Nick asked
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what would
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you suggest for across the line and slightly open at the top the current
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transition pulls
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down the club opens the face a bit more fixed backswing or transition. I would
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tend to try
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both and see which works for you. What typically happens is some golfers their
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brain interprets
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transition later than it actually is on video. What I mean by that is I'll back
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up enough
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so that we've got plenty of room here. So what many golfers do is when they
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start doing
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a transition move it actually happens right around here. So what that means is
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all of
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this is kind of like a blind spot like their brain isn't really aware of what's
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going
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on at that point. So what I frequently have to do is train more trying to
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motorcycle
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to end the top of the backswing instead of starting the downswing. The other
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thing would
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be looking at the direction that you're pushing on the club. So whether you're
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pulling more
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down or whether you have a feeling of almost pushing more up that can have a I
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've got
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a video coming out probably next week not this week but the following week that
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relates
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to how the hands push on the club and how it relates to arm shallowing. I've
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had some
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good success with some kind of mid lower handicap golfers with that feel. One
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more and then
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we'll jump back to the the emails. All right what type of backswing would you
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recommend
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if the autonomic core system of lateral head of the bicep is injured since a
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couple months
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ago the 13 handicap. So lateral head of the bicep it's like is it more though
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is it the
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left arm bicep or is it the right arm bicep. I'll come back to your question
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but I need
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a little bit more information. Okay so let me jump into some more of the email
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questions
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and then we'll get to some of these questions pouring in online. All right so
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Adam, Adam
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asked if we were doing slow motion sequence positions what would kind of the
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tempo be.
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So basically like if we had position one is the takeaway two as the start of
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transition
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three end of transition beginning of release for end of the release with the
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tempo beat
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even. Typically most of the all the research will show that the downswing is
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about a third
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of the backswing. So it has kind of a little bit more of a one two versus a one
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two where
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it's more the same tempo would be more like wedge shots or is you're getting
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into putting
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but it tends to be much faster on the downswing. So if you're training tempo
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and rhythm I would
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tend to say if you're counting it out you would want a little bit like one
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thousand one
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two is something that I've used for golfers in the past instead of trying to
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count differently
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just take a word that is going to take a lot longer to say or about three times
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longer
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to say. So I would do that one that one piece takeaway as position one one
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thousand one
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two and that would kind of get me all the way through there. Now it's really
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hard if
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you're doing it in sequence to to break up the transition and the release. But
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if you're
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doing it in more of the actual phase I would recommend doing it at half speed.
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So you might
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have to say it twice so let's go one thousand one one thousand one one two. So
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you go one
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thousand one one thousand one one two. And that would be slow motion training
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of more
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of the release and the follow through with a little bit of a tempo component to
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it but
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the downswing tempo is usually about three times faster than the backswing.
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Okay Fred
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had a bunch of questions so we'll get through some of his. First one he was
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asking about
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the orange whip wedge he just got it and he asked how do you practice it can
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you use
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it for distance wedges as well as finesse. I'm definitely a bigger fan of using
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it for
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finesse and the way I like to use it I know a couple coaches that use it polar
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opposites
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but the way I like to use it is having my students try to make the swing where
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the wedge does
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not move so there's basically no downswing loading. I know of a coach who's
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really good
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at getting more of the speed out into the handle but the real benefit and what
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I like
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about that orange whip wedge is making sure that I'm not getting any loading of
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the shaft
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in transition so feeling really almost castee and like the arms dropping and
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the weight
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of the club head is starting the downswing. We know that that's not really the
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case there's
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definitely some lower body movement but it's a feeling of more the weight out
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of the club
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and when you use the wedge it won't bend and flex very much. Second I don't
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like it as
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well for distance wedges maybe up to about 50 yards but when you start getting
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past there
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if you do have any amount of motorcycle and shaft lean it'll tend or motorcycle
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and more
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of a power sequence it does tend to hit the ball off to the right so I like it
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a lot more
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for around the greens but I know that we're having stand out late here sometime
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this spring
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so I'll pick his brain about how he uses it for distance wedges because he's
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the he's
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the king of that training tool. Okay his second question do I prefer low flight
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ed wedges with
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no divot? So there's two parts to this question. I do prefer low flighted wed
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ges the tour average
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you know being somewhere around 30 degrees of launch angle when I watch the
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guys close
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up you don't really see anyone deviating from that pattern. Now the key there
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or the second
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part of the question was where you take no divot that is entirely grass
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dependent. I've
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seen different events where they're taking fairly significant divots and other
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events
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where the grass is barely moved so it really depends on the saturation the root
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structure.
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I like to get a certain baseline at your home course but the key there is wed
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ges are steep
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but they have a low point that's relatively close to the ground so it's steep
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and it has
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a fair amount of overtaking or the club passing on the way through compared to
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the full swing
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and that's part of how you can be steep and not really gouge the ground but the
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size of
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the divot is going to depend a fair amount on the third conditions. He asked
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let's see
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you one more thread and then we'll jump back. Where is my main power source so
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how can I
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tell in the book I talk about one of the areas you know being or one way being
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where are
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you sore. I just did a video this past week where I showed kind of one where I
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showed
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the one of the key differences in the different power sources. First I categor
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ize a more lower
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body core or we more upper body and that can be determined by what's going on
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in here.
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Once you've figured out whether your upper body or more core lower body it gets
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a little
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bit trickier to try and identify exactly whether you're doing it more from the
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right
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side or more from the left side or right arm or left arm and that's where I
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would go to
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more of the soreness but he mentioned that he feels it more in his lower back
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and that
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could be more of a transition or more of an impact kind of compensation as
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opposed to
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more of a creating speed creating power phenomena. So I would start with that
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kind
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of corner zone but basically the blend of transition to release will reveal a
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lot and
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then you you can do strategies like if you're more upper body dominant and you
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did more
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of a lead arm only or a trail arm only which one feels the most similar that
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will give
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you an idea as far as right first left. If you exaggerated more weight forward
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weight
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back you could break down the lower body a little bit that way but it's more of
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an art
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than a true science to figure out your exact power sources that way. Actually
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we'll do
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one more because he has a real quick one. How is lifting a power source? So I
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talk about
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chopped verse lift or crunched verse extend while those different patterns. So
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lifting
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is a power source just the same way a chop would be. So imagine I have a
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medicine ball
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or a cable machine and I was going to pull a medicine ball or cable down that
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way. That
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would be creating force in that direction. Now imagine that I had a cable down
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there
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and now I was going to pull that cable or throw a ball a medicine ball up that
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way.
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That would be more of a lift pattern and that's what you'll tend to see with
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the with
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more of the tour swing. So with more of the driver in the long irons you'll
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tend to see
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more of a pattern where the energy in those arms are lifting up off the body
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which complements
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the body rotation on the way through and then more in the wedges and the short
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irons you'll
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see more of that chop pattern which complements more of a drifting less kind of
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bracing and
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powered generation from the from the corn body. Okay let's get back to some of
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these
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questions. Still didn't get which bicep from Mike so I got to move on. Golf
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Junkie asked
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are the Zora loops initiated from a closed upper body should it feel as if the
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forearms
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are rolling over. I understand that they are not but it might feel that they
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are. Yes the
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Zora loop is initiated basically at transition so your upper body is probably
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90 degrees
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closed at that point and what I like to what a lot of golfers describe the feel
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as is as
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those arms roll over they're also extending and most golfers feel it as more of
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this extension
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not so much of a rolling over. The danger of if it feels too much like rolling
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over is
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down at the bottom you can get kind of this steep look and the club going that
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way where
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if you have it more of the rotation where the club is going out the hands will
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work a little
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bit more left but the club will finish down the line and you'll finish with the
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club more
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in line with your forearms instead of that kind of quick flip look on the
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follow through.
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Jason asked release question one of my favorite topics good question for one
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who has mobility
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limitations and struggles to get into right lateral bend what other perhaps
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earlier shallowing
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movements are essentially keep the path from going too far left so if you there
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's a there's
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a later question to all kind of combo that one to one of Fred's he was asking
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about what
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do you do with older golfers because once you get over the age of about 60 you
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lose about
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two thirds of your right lateral bend so you won't see too many Justin Johnson
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's out on
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the senior tour it's just a phenomenon of what happens to the spine well I I
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coach I tell most
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of my senior golfers to do some stretching and try to get as much from the hips
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as you
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can because there's no real reason you need to lose a lot of the hip mobility
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if you can't
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do the spine but let's for argument sake say that we've lost that ability to
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really right
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lateral bend either from the hips or from the spot so now since this isn't
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going to get
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down towards the ground I'm going to have to use my arms a little bit earlier
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so straving
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the arms is a shallower and the the danger is that that will cause the low
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point to move
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backward unless I drift a little bit more forward so what I usually coach is if
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you're
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going to do more of an upper body cast pattern I focus a lot on upper body
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stability and
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I focus more on kind of the rhythm of when the arms extend instead of the
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absolute positions
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I also still focus and get a lot of success working on the motorcycle movement
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and it's
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more of a kind of getting those arms to extend out in front as opposed to less
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of that like
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body driven white movement it's more just the arm direction white movement you
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'll tend
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to have a little bit steeper angle of attack that way so for the longer clubs
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you may have
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to make some conversations potentially a little bit more loft playing a shorter
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club some
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setup changes but I typically what if you've lost lateral bend a cast pattern
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does help
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in terms of shallowing things out and making sure that you're not spinning too
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much from
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your upper body can help make sure it showers it out both of those would help
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prevent the
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path from getting too far left Jason also said the book is fantastic by the way
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thank
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you very much I really appreciate the feedback some of it's been a little
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overwhelming the
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way you empower the readers to deco the pattern and the stuffs on steep and
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shallows is gold
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well thank you very much I you know I had a lesson this week and the gentleman
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said that
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you know he doesn't hit every shot perfectly but it's fun because he's at least
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able to
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move the needle as he described it or basically he can kind of self correct if
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he starts having
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some problems so that's the that's what I think is the ultimate goal right no
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one ever
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has their swing perfect forever the goal is that you learn the tools to be able
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to course
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correct and self-correct when it gets off because I promise if you think you
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have it today by next
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week something will have crept in and you better have the strategy to be able
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to handle it Patrick
637
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asked can you explain how to shallow the arms while the hand path works down
638
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mine tend to work
639
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out too much so typically working through this question so typically when the
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hands move out
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the club will shallow unless it goes more everything together so let's say that
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my interpretation of
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the question is that everything is going out together so the club's not shall
644
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owing what's typically
645
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happening there is that more of the that transition move is happening more from
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that left shoulder
647
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kind of spinning as opposed to a feeling getting more of a little bit of
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stretch so if I if I face
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this way what you'll see is as my lower body starts can you see how that
650
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shoulder blade gets
651
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stretched a bit so the shoulder is not following the rib cage movement for the
652
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initial portion of
653
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the downswing allowing the arms to have some softness and let them kind of
654
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shallow a bit
655
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a bit because again typically when the hands work out if it's purely from the
656
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arms perspective
657
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:16.460
that's the force that causes it to shallow but if the hands work out because of
658
00:36:16.460 --> 00:36:17.280
the body or the
659
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.680
left shoulder kind of pulling back that will cause it to steepen okay let's get
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back to a few of these
661
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:33.680
email questions so Fred asked if the kinematic sequence isn't the only way what
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other successful
663
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patterns do you see so in the last class he was asking about or in the last
664
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youtube live he was
665
00:36:40.160 --> 00:36:45.780
asking about what kinematic like what's the stock tour swing kinematic sequence
666
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pattern and
667
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I with the kinematic sequence you will typically see a very consistent
668
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:55.680
transition sequence of
669
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pelvis um pelvis trunk arm club but when you start working at looking at the pe
670
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aking order
671
00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:10.000
you'll typically see the lower body go first but or peak first but not always
672
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:10.560
sometimes it has
673
00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:16.560
more of a plateau sometimes it's later um it really depends on swing styles
674
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body capabilities release
675
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patterns whether you prioritize distance whether you prioritize accuracy so the
676
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transition I would
677
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say you know what what everybody said the kinematics sequence shows absolutely
678
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correct what everyone's
679
00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:35.280
talked from the ground up all that stuff is well and true if you're talking
680
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about the downswing
681
00:37:36.560 --> 00:37:42.240
peaking order I've just seen way too many examples of really good ball strikers
682
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like you know elite
683
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level toward ball strikers who don't have a perfect uh one two three four kinem
684
00:37:48.020 --> 00:37:49.440
atic sequence oftentimes
685
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:55.200
it's one three two four uh but there are some really good ball strikers who
686
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where it's more
687
00:37:56.160 --> 00:38:04.160
stacked up and the time delay between one two three are is almost nothing so um
688
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I would say
689
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if you're use the kinematic sequence and more as a reference for guiding what
690
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you want to work on
691
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in the gym like where the potential injury points are where the potential
692
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weaknesses or
693
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:26.150
inhibitions are and then use that as more of a long-term focus of what to work
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on rehab wise
695
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strength wise as opposed to um the downswing peaking port order being an
696
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absolute guide of
697
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what it takes to be consistent uh so I um I kind of already answered his last
698
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.000
question about golfers
699
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.810
who can't left tilt during stiff uh due to stiffness but he did ask about what
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about early
701
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extension um I basically okay so if I can't left tilt or sorry if I can't right
702
00:38:53.590 --> 00:38:54.560
tilt then
703
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maybe I can early extend in order to create um some of the shallowness well um
704
00:39:01.670 --> 00:39:02.960
I'm not a big fan
705
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.560
of coaching early extension at any level if you're going if you need to be
706
00:39:06.560 --> 00:39:07.680
taller to be shallower
707
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than I would recommend starting taller to begin with for my older golfers um I
708
00:39:12.100 --> 00:39:13.760
think that the
709
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:21.440
bigger combination is getting more of a um cast pattern so getting that arm to
710
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:21.920
straighten a
711
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little bit sooner and timing that with the right amount of lunge and the right
712
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amount of upper body
713
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position so I do a lot of upper body location training making sure that um they
714
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:34.000
're pretty accurate
715
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.680
with where that is and I do a lot of rhythm training and I still do a lot of
716
00:39:38.680 --> 00:39:40.240
the motorcycle training
717
00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:46.600
it's just a little bit more arm driven instead of um more body driven okay uh
718
00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:49.840
question from Joseph
719
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:55.350
when uh he's working on the motorcycle he says when I kind of do it too quickly
720
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um and so basically
721
00:39:58.560 --> 00:40:03.680
what he's asking is when he's doing the motorcycle he he kind of does it really
722
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aggressively at the
723
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top and what ends up happening is it goes a little bit steep like this so he
724
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tends to hit more of
725
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kind of steep and um chunky poles um what I would say there is really monitor
726
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the grip pressure
727
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especially in that trail hand um and work a little bit more on the owner
728
00:40:23.740 --> 00:40:25.680
deviation or getting the club
729
00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:31.600
to shallow out um this way while you're doing it what can what can happen is if
730
00:40:31.600 --> 00:40:32.560
you just focus on
731
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that motorcycle movement the past starts to get too steep and then you have um
732
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:38.240
some of what he
733
00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:42.490
described as toe contact you have some of these predictable mispatterns um that
734
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happen from more
735
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of a steepness not from a motorcycle thing uh he asks when does the lead wrist
736
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go into supination
737
00:40:50.640 --> 00:40:56.260
um so on the 3d graphs the lead wrist will start going into supination right
738
00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:57.760
around shaft 45 so
739
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:03.700
kind of right about here is where the wrist starts to supinate and the neat
740
00:41:03.700 --> 00:41:06.240
thing is it's as it's
741
00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:10.780
going in transition so through here it's pronating so that I can start sup
742
00:41:10.780 --> 00:41:12.240
inating without having the
743
00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:17.120
club follow it initially so it kind of ramps up it's not really an explosive
744
00:41:17.120 --> 00:41:18.800
the explosive action
745
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:23.930
but it starts right about here and it'll end um basically at the end of the
746
00:41:23.930 --> 00:41:25.040
release roughly shaft
747
00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:31.900
parallel to the ground uh here's the last question um how does the trail wrist
748
00:41:31.900 --> 00:41:34.160
go into extension um
749
00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:39.200
from p2 to the top of the swing and make it more vertical not behind um well
750
00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:40.800
when we look at how
751
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:47.320
the wrists are on the club um that trail wrist is not truly on the side of the
752
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.320
club it's a little
753
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:53.110
bit more on top so when I extend the wrist especially if I add radial deviation
754
00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:54.640
at the same time
755
00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:59.520
that will tend to move the club more up in line with the forearm as opposed to
756
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:01.520
around this way to
757
00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:07.530
get it more around this way you'll see in addition to extension I also had to
758
00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:08.960
do a fair amount of
759
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:17.120
rotation right so working on that trail wrist to um extend wall radial dev
760
00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:19.920
iating um will help make
761
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:25.920
it more uh vertical as opposed to extension and letting that shoulder rotate or
762
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.120
letting that lead
763
00:42:27.120 --> 00:42:32.390
arm come away too much which would make it a little bit more horizontally um
764
00:42:32.390 --> 00:42:34.080
the key there is the if
765
00:42:34.080 --> 00:42:38.970
you get it more vertical so if you're across the line I'll exaggerate if I'm
766
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really across the line
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then I really have to shallow um the more that I get it in that horizontal
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position more like a
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john rom I don't have to shallow quite as um aggressively or as long so just
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making sure that
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you're utilizing radial deviation um while you're going into extension because
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those are kind of
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couple motions and making sure that it's not um rotating too much uh supination
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will prevent it
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from getting um too flat at the top or too flat or more around you okay um come
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back to that when
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I see another live question Craig where should you where do I like to see the
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club face at P2
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and at P6 should it match the spine angle or both at both positions um I'm a
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lot uh as far as P2 goes
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I'm definitely like I look at the ranges and where it is at P2 is um you can be
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anywhere from let's
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say vertical to spine angle and I guess I would say that's pretty close to the
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same at P6 um anywhere
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from vertical to spine angle the the key thing is understanding the
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relationship of okay the more
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closed it is the more that I could um body rotate and wipe so the more I could
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potentially take the
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hands out of it um the the more vertical it is the more I'm still going to have
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to continue
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that motorcycle late and some guys especially if you have a lot of tension if
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you create a lot of
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arm tension and really grip the club down at the bottom it's very hard to have
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the continued rotation
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so if you know that you have a constitution where you're more you're really
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going to hold on
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on the way through and tighten those arms then I would probably try to get it a
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little bit more
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close to spine angle um if you have some softness in your arms you can you have
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a little bit more
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flexibility you can do either or now that being said with if we're now talking
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short irons wedges
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I would like to see it closer to toe vertical if you're looking at more driver
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long irons I would
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like to see it closer to the spine angle but it's more um matching relative
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pieces rather than an
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absolute look that you're trying to train okay last one um but quick one on
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here is there an
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archive um I believe that they're linked on youtube um for those on the site I
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am going to um copy
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them over and create a playlist of all the archived uh Q&As so that way you can
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check out all the ones
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that I've done in the past um okay uh Jim had a last minute question he emailed
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right before um
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about the right arm what does the right arm do in the backswing in the down
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swing specifically
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the right wrist so um he he had some really good success working on the
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motorcycle and the wipe
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combo um but then he was getting a little bit of a steep steeper mispattern so
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we started to try
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to introduce some older deviation and in getting that older deviation we were
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losing what's going
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on at the the trail wrist um so in that last question I kind of described some
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of what's going on
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where basically that right wrist is going to um extend and radial deviate and
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it'll feel like it
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goes into some pronation as well um as long as the shoulder is then externally
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rotated that combo
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doesn't put it across the line where if I um don't it radial deviate and if I
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supinate but then I
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really let my elbow go that's actually the more common pattern for getting
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across the line so
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I'm rotated kind of like that with some good uh radial deviation then down
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through impact
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down at the bottom is the trickier zone um through early part of transition or
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sorry mid kind of
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late transition before you get into the release it's going to um increase that
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extension uh radial
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deviation and extension so it's gonna have that little white look and then in
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order to not bottom
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out and lose it uh lose that extension and basically lose your low point
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control um one of the big
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keys is making sure that the extension of the wrist is maintained it feels like
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it's maintained
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all the way through impact um but in practicality what'll happen is with the
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speed and the bracing
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you'll lose that risk through impact but what I find is golfers trying to lose
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that wrist tend
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to have low point control issues where golfers trying to maintain that
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extension and have more
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of the rotation of the arm as opposed to more of kind of an attempt to hold it
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off like this
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tend to have better low point control it can get the low point forward with a
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little bit more
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um shallower contact so they can get shaft lean without a steep angle of attack
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which is uh one of
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the key different traders there for um you know good right arm mechanics okay
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uh so we we just
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crossed kind of the 45 minute zone that's kind of where I like to cap these so
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they're not too long
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enjoy the rest of march of madness and the master is coming up in two weeks is
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a fun time for sports
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if you have any questions then that either my comments here triggered or that
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somehow I missed
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and I didn't answer um please shoot me an email at support@golfsmartacademy.com
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if you haven't checked it out this is the the book that um a couple of the
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comments were referencing
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published in the fall um covers a lot of the overview of how I think my system
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works together
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and then if you're looking for more details on any of the movements or the
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drills head over to
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golfsmartacademy.com um please hopefully share this with your friends and uh
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yeah if you have any
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questions shoot them to me I enjoy doing these and we'll uh we'll get one
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scheduled here in the new
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future so thanks again for tuning in and enjoy your transition into the golf
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season
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Alright guys, welcome to the part two edition of the stream on the big
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movements. If you
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have any questions please post them in the chat window and I'll get to as many
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can. But as you can see I still had a bunch of email questions that I didn't
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have a chance
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in to get to. So let me know if there's any audio problems. I got the mic going
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we're pretty good. I didn't mean to time it perfectly but hopefully some of you
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're jumping
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over from the Duke Kansas game and hopefully we can have an exciting little
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half time show
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here. Without further ado, okay Robbie sent a question in about the arm
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extension in the
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follow through. Is it better to train it as part of how you're generating speed
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or is
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it better to train it as part of how you're controlling path? His comment was
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the typically
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finds it works better training it with speed. Well, I'm not too big on absol
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utes because
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it could be related to how the golfer is controlling the path or it could be
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how they're controlling
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the speed. One thing one little kind of insight that I'll give is if it is more
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of a power
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related issue then training positions is usually not as effective as training
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movements. And
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so when you're talking about arm extension that can be more related to how they
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're powering
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the swing because what will happen is a lot of golfers down at the bottom will
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feel a
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sense of power by bracing and flipping the wrist creating a lot of kind of
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tension in
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the forearms right around impact versus having that continued motorcycle where
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the hands
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are still slightly ahead of the clubhead and the body is just continuing on the
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way through.
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So I tend to agree with Robbie's question that I think it's more of a creating
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speed
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element that a lot of golfers just feel stronger when they have more forearm
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tension and then
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when they have that forearms tension the body is going to stall right around
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impact. So
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training like my hit your arms drill or hit my arms tends to create more of a
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feeling
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of power with a different part of your body and that tends to help really well
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with the
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getting the better flat spot or arm extension. His second question was is pron
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ation of the
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trail foot so he was only last time about the trail foot and I talked about how
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ideally
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the sequence is the trail foot will tend to bank and then it will extend and
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then after
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impact it will rotate mostly because of the rotation of the pivot. His question
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was is
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that pronation of the trail foot independent or is it a reaction of other
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movements? Nothing
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is truly independent but if you think about it from a more global picture right
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if we think
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about it as I'm trying to push through the ground and I'm trying to kind of
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spiral that
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leg in a movement kind of like this so I'm letting my arm kind of almost mirror
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the way
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my foot is pushing against the ground. Well in order to use the big muscles of
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my hip my
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foot has to create an anchor my foot has to create kind of a connection point
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and so
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when I start banking that foot it's kind of part of pushing against the inside
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of the
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foot to allow for that hip to really create some some force because it'll be
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have a stronger
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fix point and be in a better position or relationship so it's not truly
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independent just as in like
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just by rolling the foot isn't going to make your sequence any get any better
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but if you're
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using the foot and the hip together the foot will bank slightly before the hip
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will go
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into extension and external rotation. Where should you look related that
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question? Where
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should you look if students struggle first with that first trail foot movement
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so if
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they struggle with more of that pronation the foot where should you look. First
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thing
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you want to do is just kind of Robbie's coach so I give him kind of the coach's
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perspective.
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First thing you want to do is just a basic kind of form flat and arches test if
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you're
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good with the feet you can take off the shoes and you can look at the mobility
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if the foot
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has a hard time banking inside on its own you're going to have a hard time
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doing it
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with speed in the golf swing. So first thing is just clearing that physical
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capability.
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The second piece would then be if they have a good enough release where they
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could handle
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having side bend and continue rotating because what'll happen is a lot of golf
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ers you start
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banking that foot and they start either catching it thin or fat or more on the
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toe because
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they haven't trained a good enough white position. So work on make sure they
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have a release that
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can support a good foot action and then screen the foot make sure that the foot
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is working
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properly that usually gets that first movement. Okay Bazz had a question about
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the power package.
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I don't have the power package training aid but it looks very much like a swing
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guy except
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it has a second handle coming off of it kind of like this. So the thing I do
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like it better
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than the swing guy. I've mentioned for the problem with the swing guy is it
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really emphasizes
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the radial deviation and it emphasizes rehinging on the second side or on the
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follow through
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side. It can help for not bending the arms because typically when you bend the
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arm in
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the follow through it would be hard to also get the swing guy up against the
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forearm. But
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typically what I see is golfers who practice a lot with that end up getting
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more of kind
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of an arm dominant pull in transition. So not a huge fan but the power package
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emphasizes
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a little bit more of the trail risk getting that extension. So I like it a
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little bit
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better but it does. I don't think it teaches the right arm rotation quite as
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well as it
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needs to. So it's more of kind of a transition and setting in top of the swing
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trainer for
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me than really a dynamic downswing trainer. But it's better than the swing guy.
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So if
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you're looking to improve your extension of the wrist it's not a bad training
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aid for
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working at home. Okay. Guy or Guy, I'm not sure what part of the world he's in,
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he asked
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about the lead knee motion. So the lead knee motion in transition basically
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internal external
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trying to get looking at where the knee is happening. So I'm going to lower the
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camera
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so we can kind of see what's going on here. So here's one of the tricky things.
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What
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the question relates to is in the transition of basically okay if the knee
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stays in like
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this and I shift that's commonly referred to as internal rotation of the hip.
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if I get to the top of the swing and as I'm shifting that knee goes out that's
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typically
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referred to as external rotation of the hip or sometimes it's referred to as
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external
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rotation in the knee. By the book like the true knee rotation would actually
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happen more
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at the ankle like this. So when I turn that foot in that's the tibia rotating
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in and when
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I turn the foot out that's the tibia rotating out. So that's the true internal
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external rotation
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of the foot. So if I did external rotate or sorry of the knee if I did external
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rotation
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of the knee that's the same thing as the knee pointing in. So actually going
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that way would
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have more external rotation of the knee where if I go more out like this that
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would actually
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be more internal rotation of the knee. So the hard thing is the description
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that is most
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common doesn't really match the anatomical relationship. So the real question
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is do I
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want to have that knee stay put as I shift or should it work towards the target
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. I'll
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still be going into internal rotation. It's not a big difference as far as what
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's happening
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here at the hip as in. If I go this way I'm going into internal rotation if I
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go that
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way it's going into internal rotation. The big difference is typically what's
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with the trail leg and what's happening with the upper body. Ideally yes it's
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going to
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have a little bit more of a look of following. You don't want to have that look
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of the knee
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coming in. That's typically from a little bit too much upper body lunge or from
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going
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into that foot mechanic of spinning the heel as opposed to banking that foot.
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the look he's going for and describing is correct but the word of internal
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rotation unfortunately isn't quite accurate. Okay and then his last, his follow
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up question
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was kind of what does that play in rotation. As I demonstrated it's more of a
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sign of where
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the rotation is coming from. Here's how I look at it. So you want to take the
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big picture
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of what's the general movement and the general movement in the can be broken
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down into torsion.
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is when let's say it's to the left it would be flexing forward in rotating or
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negative
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torsion. So I would be extending and rotating. Those are a combination of
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movements but blend
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into one. So it's called torsion. In the backswing we tend to have negative t
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orsion and then
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in the downswing we're going to have positive torsion and then during the
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release we're
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going back into negative torsion and when you look at it more from that
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perspective of
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the global picture of what's happening at the spine then what's happening at
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the legs
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should match what you're trying to do with the spine. So it's not just that if
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you get
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the proper knee action it will work perfectly. The key is making sure that the
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foot, the
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knee, the hip are all related to what the spine is doing. Alright I want to get
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through
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as many of these as I can. Bob asked a tricky question. He asked what muscle
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groups initiate
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the key movement. So what muscle groups initiate arm shallowing, the Jackson 5
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and the motorcycle.
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So here's where unfortunately my brain would go. Yes Mike, thanks for tuning in
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from Sweden.
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There's your shout out. I appreciate you. Okay back to Bob's question. What
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initiates
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the arm shallowing? What initiates the Jackson 5? The trick is going to be what
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are we feeling
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what is actually triggering it? And where does the motion take place? So like
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for example if I were doing a bicep curl, right? So if I was doing a bicep curl
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and you
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had sensors or if you had EMG measuring parts in my body the first thing you
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would see would
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be an impulse in my foot. Actually you would see my core and then you would see
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my foot
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and then you would see all the support up until the bicep. Then I would have a
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high activity
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of the bicep. So you'd say that this motion was a bicep activity but it started
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all the
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way down at the feet or in the core depending on how you're looking at it. So
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to the big movements like the arm shallowing the Jackson 5 and the motorcycle
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what initiates
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the movement may not be where you're ultimately going to feel it. I know that's
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a little bit
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pretty. So for example the arm shallow is really initiated more by the foot and
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the core and
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the rib cage rotation and having a little bit of reduced grip pressure
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the trail forearm. So many amateurs tend to really squeeze and pull down with
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the forearm
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as opposed to letting that forearm be soft and letting the speed come more from
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my body
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pulling on it and that body pull is initiating more at the feet because you
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need a fixed point
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in order to create force in a forcible way. So the arm shallow is initiated
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from the lower
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body or the core but you can feel it if you're actively doing it either in the
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lead forearm
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or in the trail shoulder you may even feel it more as a flexion kind of
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combination
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of the motorcycle movement. But that's again where you feel it and where the
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movement is
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actually originating might not be the same thing. So that's the arm shallow.
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his question was if when or sorry so with the motorcycle his question was is it
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more of
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an arm pull or core rotation on the way through. So basically here we'll switch
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legs so that
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I can rotate that way easier. So if I'm going on the way through the question
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was basically
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is it an arm pull in order to keep that rotation of the wrist or is it more a
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body pull and
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the arm just kind of rotates but follows the body pull. You know guys who
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showed with you
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can do either so whether it's more of like a Phil Mickelson upper body dominant
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style
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where the arms are pulling it into position or more of like a Ben Hogan style
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where the
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body is pulling through. You can do either but the more repeatable pattern is
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the body
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pulls through and the arm just kind of stays a little bit softer in order to
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control the
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movement as opposed to really driving a powerful arm activity.
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Then the last one was about the Jackson 5. So I already talked to it's a little
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bit more
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going from the feet rather than from the hips. The key is that the foot and the
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hip and the
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spine kind of all work together in that side tilt Jackson 5 pattern. So I'm a
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big fan of
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using the feet properly to help get the hips and core working properly as well
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as long as
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the arms in the club are in a position where you can take advantage of it.
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So we'll take a quick break from the emails and we'll answer some of the
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questions because
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I see them starting to really pour in. Okay so first question was from William
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how to prevent
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early extension when performing the Jackson 5. The key thing there is when you
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are doing
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the Jackson 5 to make sure that it's going in the slightly left of the target
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not in
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the direction of the hips. So when I teach the Jackson 5 it's a lateral
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movement like
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this but then when I go to the top of the swing a lot of golfers still go
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lateral with
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the direction of the pelvis and they start going that way. So what you have to
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feel is
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that it's actually going a little bit more backwards. So if I was doing let's
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say a better
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version or a more swing and a related version of the Jackson 5 it would
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actually be more
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like I was going like this where the hips were going back 45 instead of purely
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at the
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target. That helps my body flex forward which is part of that positive torsion
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pattern.
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So that's the other piece is making sure that you're using your abs with that
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Jackson 5
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and not just using too much of your back in order to move your hips. You had a
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second
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question he got here first so he gets two questions answered. Ideally when does
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the club
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catch up with the hands after impact both for driver and six iron. For driver I
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use
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the reference of about chef parallel is where you know the guys like Jordan
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speed or Joe
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Durant or Jim Furyk or Henrik Stenson like guys who tend to be have really good
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ball
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striking statistics. The club will catch up with them a little bit later here.
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iron it's probably closer to about chef 45. Alright Craig working on the
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motorcycle move
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but still can't get my hands forward enough. Do I need more motorcycle or could
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it be something
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else. Definitely could be something else. Motorcycle movement is solves two
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problems motorcycle
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movement let's get a little bit better in frame. So motorcycle movement solves
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the slice
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and it solves shaft lean because when I flex that lead wrist or twist the club
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if I didn't
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get my hands ahead the club face will be pointed really close so I'm going to
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hit massive
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pulls so it's a key component to getting the hands ahead and it squares the
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face to the
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path relationship which prevents the slice. That being said if your arm timing
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is if your
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arm timing is more going into kind of this under flip pattern where that right
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arm stays
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behind your body and the palm stays facing kind of more towards you instead of
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facing
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more away that will move the bottom the swing backward. It's very hard to do
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that and keep
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the motorcycle but it is possible because I could very easily keep that left
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wrist flat
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and release the right arm a little bit earlier so you'll start to see the club
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coming up
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through impact. So I do a lot of trail arm training got a couple new drills
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that I'll
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be filming tomorrow that have been working pretty well but things like the
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single arm
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drills throws the disc catcher all seem to help train that right arm getting
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more in
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front which helps support the motorcycle of the lead wrist. Okay Nick asked
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what would
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you suggest for across the line and slightly open at the top the current
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transition pulls
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down the club opens the face a bit more fixed backswing or transition. I would
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tend to try
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both and see which works for you. What typically happens is some golfers their
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brain interprets
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transition later than it actually is on video. What I mean by that is I'll back
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up enough
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so that we've got plenty of room here. So what many golfers do is when they
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start doing
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a transition move it actually happens right around here. So what that means is
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all of
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this is kind of like a blind spot like their brain isn't really aware of what's
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going
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on at that point. So what I frequently have to do is train more trying to
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motorcycle
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to end the top of the backswing instead of starting the downswing. The other
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thing would
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be looking at the direction that you're pushing on the club. So whether you're
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pulling more
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down or whether you have a feeling of almost pushing more up that can have a I
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've got
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a video coming out probably next week not this week but the following week that
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relates
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to how the hands push on the club and how it relates to arm shallowing. I've
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had some
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good success with some kind of mid lower handicap golfers with that feel. One
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more and then
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we'll jump back to the the emails. All right what type of backswing would you
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recommend
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if the autonomic core system of lateral head of the bicep is injured since a
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couple months
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ago the 13 handicap. So lateral head of the bicep it's like is it more though
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is it the
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left arm bicep or is it the right arm bicep. I'll come back to your question
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but I need
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a little bit more information. Okay so let me jump into some more of the email
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questions
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and then we'll get to some of these questions pouring in online. All right so
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Adam, Adam
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asked if we were doing slow motion sequence positions what would kind of the
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tempo be.
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transition
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three end of transition beginning of release for end of the release with the
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tempo beat
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even. Typically most of the all the research will show that the downswing is
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about a third
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of the backswing. So it has kind of a little bit more of a one two versus a one
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two where
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it's more the same tempo would be more like wedge shots or is you're getting
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into putting
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but it tends to be much faster on the downswing. So if you're training tempo
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and rhythm I would
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tend to say if you're counting it out you would want a little bit like one
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thousand one
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two is something that I've used for golfers in the past instead of trying to
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count differently
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just take a word that is going to take a lot longer to say or about three times
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longer
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to say. So I would do that one that one piece takeaway as position one one
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thousand one
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two and that would kind of get me all the way through there. Now it's really
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hard if
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you're doing it in sequence to to break up the transition and the release. But
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if you're
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doing it in more of the actual phase I would recommend doing it at half speed.
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So you might
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have to say it twice so let's go one thousand one one thousand one one two. So
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you go one
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thousand one one thousand one one two. And that would be slow motion training
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of more
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of the release and the follow through with a little bit of a tempo component to
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it but
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the downswing tempo is usually about three times faster than the backswing.
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Okay Fred
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had a bunch of questions so we'll get through some of his. First one he was
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asking about
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the orange whip wedge he just got it and he asked how do you practice it can
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you use
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it for distance wedges as well as finesse. I'm definitely a bigger fan of using
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it for
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finesse and the way I like to use it I know a couple coaches that use it polar
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opposites
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but the way I like to use it is having my students try to make the swing where
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the wedge does
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not move so there's basically no downswing loading. I know of a coach who's
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really good
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at getting more of the speed out into the handle but the real benefit and what
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I like
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about that orange whip wedge is making sure that I'm not getting any loading of
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the shaft
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in transition so feeling really almost castee and like the arms dropping and
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the weight
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of the club head is starting the downswing. We know that that's not really the
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case there's
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definitely some lower body movement but it's a feeling of more the weight out
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of the club
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and when you use the wedge it won't bend and flex very much. Second I don't
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like it as
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well for distance wedges maybe up to about 50 yards but when you start getting
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past there
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if you do have any amount of motorcycle and shaft lean it'll tend or motorcycle
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and more
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of a power sequence it does tend to hit the ball off to the right so I like it
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a lot more
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for around the greens but I know that we're having stand out late here sometime
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this spring
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so I'll pick his brain about how he uses it for distance wedges because he's
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the he's
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the king of that training tool. Okay his second question do I prefer low flight
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ed wedges with
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no divot? So there's two parts to this question. I do prefer low flighted wed
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ges the tour average
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you know being somewhere around 30 degrees of launch angle when I watch the
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guys close
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up you don't really see anyone deviating from that pattern. Now the key there
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or the second
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part of the question was where you take no divot that is entirely grass
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dependent. I've
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seen different events where they're taking fairly significant divots and other
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events
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where the grass is barely moved so it really depends on the saturation the root
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structure.
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I like to get a certain baseline at your home course but the key there is wed
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ges are steep
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but they have a low point that's relatively close to the ground so it's steep
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and it has
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a fair amount of overtaking or the club passing on the way through compared to
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the full swing
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and that's part of how you can be steep and not really gouge the ground but the
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size of
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the divot is going to depend a fair amount on the third conditions. He asked
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let's see
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you one more thread and then we'll jump back. Where is my main power source so
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how can I
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tell in the book I talk about one of the areas you know being or one way being
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where are
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you sore. I just did a video this past week where I showed kind of one where I
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showed
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the one of the key differences in the different power sources. First I categor
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ize a more lower
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body core or we more upper body and that can be determined by what's going on
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in here.
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Once you've figured out whether your upper body or more core lower body it gets
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a little
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bit trickier to try and identify exactly whether you're doing it more from the
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right
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side or more from the left side or right arm or left arm and that's where I
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would go to
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more of the soreness but he mentioned that he feels it more in his lower back
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and that
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could be more of a transition or more of an impact kind of compensation as
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opposed to
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more of a creating speed creating power phenomena. So I would start with that
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kind
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of corner zone but basically the blend of transition to release will reveal a
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lot and
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then you you can do strategies like if you're more upper body dominant and you
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did more
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of a lead arm only or a trail arm only which one feels the most similar that
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will give
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you an idea as far as right first left. If you exaggerated more weight forward
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weight
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back you could break down the lower body a little bit that way but it's more of
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an art
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than a true science to figure out your exact power sources that way. Actually
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we'll do
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one more because he has a real quick one. How is lifting a power source? So I
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talk about
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chopped verse lift or crunched verse extend while those different patterns. So
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lifting
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is a power source just the same way a chop would be. So imagine I have a
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medicine ball
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or a cable machine and I was going to pull a medicine ball or cable down that
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way. That
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would be creating force in that direction. Now imagine that I had a cable down
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there
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and now I was going to pull that cable or throw a ball a medicine ball up that
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way.
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That would be more of a lift pattern and that's what you'll tend to see with
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the with
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more of the tour swing. So with more of the driver in the long irons you'll
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tend to see
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more of a pattern where the energy in those arms are lifting up off the body
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which complements
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the body rotation on the way through and then more in the wedges and the short
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irons you'll
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see more of that chop pattern which complements more of a drifting less kind of
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bracing and
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powered generation from the from the corn body. Okay let's get back to some of
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these
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questions. Still didn't get which bicep from Mike so I got to move on. Golf
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Junkie asked
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are the Zora loops initiated from a closed upper body should it feel as if the
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forearms
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are rolling over. I understand that they are not but it might feel that they
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are. Yes the
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Zora loop is initiated basically at transition so your upper body is probably
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90 degrees
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closed at that point and what I like to what a lot of golfers describe the feel
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as is as
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those arms roll over they're also extending and most golfers feel it as more of
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this extension
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not so much of a rolling over. The danger of if it feels too much like rolling
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over is
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down at the bottom you can get kind of this steep look and the club going that
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way where
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if you have it more of the rotation where the club is going out the hands will
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work a little
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bit more left but the club will finish down the line and you'll finish with the
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club more
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in line with your forearms instead of that kind of quick flip look on the
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follow through.
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Jason asked release question one of my favorite topics good question for one
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who has mobility
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limitations and struggles to get into right lateral bend what other perhaps
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earlier shallowing
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movements are essentially keep the path from going too far left so if you there
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's a there's
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a later question to all kind of combo that one to one of Fred's he was asking
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about what
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do you do with older golfers because once you get over the age of about 60 you
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lose about
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two thirds of your right lateral bend so you won't see too many Justin Johnson
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's out on
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the senior tour it's just a phenomenon of what happens to the spine well I I
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coach I tell most
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of my senior golfers to do some stretching and try to get as much from the hips
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as you
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can because there's no real reason you need to lose a lot of the hip mobility
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if you can't
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do the spine but let's for argument sake say that we've lost that ability to
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really right
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lateral bend either from the hips or from the spot so now since this isn't
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going to get
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down towards the ground I'm going to have to use my arms a little bit earlier
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so straving
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the arms is a shallower and the the danger is that that will cause the low
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point to move
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backward unless I drift a little bit more forward so what I usually coach is if
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you're
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going to do more of an upper body cast pattern I focus a lot on upper body
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stability and
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I focus more on kind of the rhythm of when the arms extend instead of the
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absolute positions
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I also still focus and get a lot of success working on the motorcycle movement
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and it's
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more of a kind of getting those arms to extend out in front as opposed to less
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of that like
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body driven white movement it's more just the arm direction white movement you
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'll tend
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to have a little bit steeper angle of attack that way so for the longer clubs
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you may have
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to make some conversations potentially a little bit more loft playing a shorter
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club some
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setup changes but I typically what if you've lost lateral bend a cast pattern
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does help
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in terms of shallowing things out and making sure that you're not spinning too
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much from
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your upper body can help make sure it showers it out both of those would help
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prevent the
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path from getting too far left Jason also said the book is fantastic by the way
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thank
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you very much I really appreciate the feedback some of it's been a little
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overwhelming the
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way you empower the readers to deco the pattern and the stuffs on steep and
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shallows is gold
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well thank you very much I you know I had a lesson this week and the gentleman
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said that
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you know he doesn't hit every shot perfectly but it's fun because he's at least
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able to
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move the needle as he described it or basically he can kind of self correct if
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he starts having
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some problems so that's the that's what I think is the ultimate goal right no
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one ever
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has their swing perfect forever the goal is that you learn the tools to be able
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to course
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correct and self-correct when it gets off because I promise if you think you
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have it today by next
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week something will have crept in and you better have the strategy to be able
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to handle it Patrick
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asked can you explain how to shallow the arms while the hand path works down
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mine tend to work
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out too much so typically working through this question so typically when the
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hands move out
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the club will shallow unless it goes more everything together so let's say that
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my interpretation of
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the question is that everything is going out together so the club's not shall
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owing what's typically
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happening there is that more of the that transition move is happening more from
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that left shoulder
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kind of spinning as opposed to a feeling getting more of a little bit of
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stretch so if I if I face
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this way what you'll see is as my lower body starts can you see how that
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shoulder blade gets
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stretched a bit so the shoulder is not following the rib cage movement for the
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initial portion of
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the downswing allowing the arms to have some softness and let them kind of
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shallow a bit
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a bit because again typically when the hands work out if it's purely from the
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arms perspective
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that's the force that causes it to shallow but if the hands work out because of
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the body or the
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left shoulder kind of pulling back that will cause it to steepen okay let's get
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back to a few of these
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email questions so Fred asked if the kinematic sequence isn't the only way what
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other successful
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patterns do you see so in the last class he was asking about or in the last
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youtube live he was
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asking about what kinematic like what's the stock tour swing kinematic sequence
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pattern and
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I with the kinematic sequence you will typically see a very consistent
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transition sequence of
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pelvis um pelvis trunk arm club but when you start working at looking at the pe
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aking order
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you'll typically see the lower body go first but or peak first but not always
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sometimes it has
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more of a plateau sometimes it's later um it really depends on swing styles
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body capabilities release
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patterns whether you prioritize distance whether you prioritize accuracy so the
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transition I would
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say you know what what everybody said the kinematics sequence shows absolutely
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correct what everyone's
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talked from the ground up all that stuff is well and true if you're talking
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about the downswing
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peaking order I've just seen way too many examples of really good ball strikers
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like you know elite
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level toward ball strikers who don't have a perfect uh one two three four kinem
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atic sequence oftentimes
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it's one three two four uh but there are some really good ball strikers who
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where it's more
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stacked up and the time delay between one two three are is almost nothing so um
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I would say
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if you're use the kinematic sequence and more as a reference for guiding what
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you want to work on
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in the gym like where the potential injury points are where the potential
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weaknesses or
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inhibitions are and then use that as more of a long-term focus of what to work
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on rehab wise
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strength wise as opposed to um the downswing peaking port order being an
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absolute guide of
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what it takes to be consistent uh so I um I kind of already answered his last
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question about golfers
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who can't left tilt during stiff uh due to stiffness but he did ask about what
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about early
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extension um I basically okay so if I can't left tilt or sorry if I can't right
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tilt then
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maybe I can early extend in order to create um some of the shallowness well um
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I'm not a big fan
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of coaching early extension at any level if you're going if you need to be
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taller to be shallower
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than I would recommend starting taller to begin with for my older golfers um I
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think that the
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bigger combination is getting more of a um cast pattern so getting that arm to
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straighten a
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little bit sooner and timing that with the right amount of lunge and the right
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amount of upper body
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position so I do a lot of upper body location training making sure that um they
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're pretty accurate
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with where that is and I do a lot of rhythm training and I still do a lot of
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the motorcycle training
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it's just a little bit more arm driven instead of um more body driven okay uh
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question from Joseph
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when uh he's working on the motorcycle he says when I kind of do it too quickly
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um and so basically
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what he's asking is when he's doing the motorcycle he he kind of does it really
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aggressively at the
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top and what ends up happening is it goes a little bit steep like this so he
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tends to hit more of
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kind of steep and um chunky poles um what I would say there is really monitor
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the grip pressure
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especially in that trail hand um and work a little bit more on the owner
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deviation or getting the club
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to shallow out um this way while you're doing it what can what can happen is if
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you just focus on
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that motorcycle movement the past starts to get too steep and then you have um
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some of what he
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described as toe contact you have some of these predictable mispatterns um that
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happen from more
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of a steepness not from a motorcycle thing uh he asks when does the lead wrist
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go into supination
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um so on the 3d graphs the lead wrist will start going into supination right
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around shaft 45 so
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kind of right about here is where the wrist starts to supinate and the neat
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thing is it's as it's
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going in transition so through here it's pronating so that I can start sup
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inating without having the
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club follow it initially so it kind of ramps up it's not really an explosive
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the explosive action
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but it starts right about here and it'll end um basically at the end of the
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release roughly shaft
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parallel to the ground uh here's the last question um how does the trail wrist
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go into extension um
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from p2 to the top of the swing and make it more vertical not behind um well
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when we look at how
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the wrists are on the club um that trail wrist is not truly on the side of the
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club it's a little
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bit more on top so when I extend the wrist especially if I add radial deviation
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at the same time
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that will tend to move the club more up in line with the forearm as opposed to
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around this way to
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get it more around this way you'll see in addition to extension I also had to
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do a fair amount of
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rotation right so working on that trail wrist to um extend wall radial dev
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iating um will help make
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it more uh vertical as opposed to extension and letting that shoulder rotate or
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letting that lead
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arm come away too much which would make it a little bit more horizontally um
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the key there is the if
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you get it more vertical so if you're across the line I'll exaggerate if I'm
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really across the line
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then I really have to shallow um the more that I get it in that horizontal
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position more like a
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john rom I don't have to shallow quite as um aggressively or as long so just
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making sure that
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you're utilizing radial deviation um while you're going into extension because
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those are kind of
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couple motions and making sure that it's not um rotating too much uh supination
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will prevent it
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from getting um too flat at the top or too flat or more around you okay um come
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back to that when
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I see another live question Craig where should you where do I like to see the
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club face at P2
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and at P6 should it match the spine angle or both at both positions um I'm a
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lot uh as far as P2 goes
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I'm definitely like I look at the ranges and where it is at P2 is um you can be
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anywhere from let's
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say vertical to spine angle and I guess I would say that's pretty close to the
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same at P6 um anywhere
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from vertical to spine angle the the key thing is understanding the
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relationship of okay the more
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closed it is the more that I could um body rotate and wipe so the more I could
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potentially take the
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hands out of it um the the more vertical it is the more I'm still going to have
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to continue
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that motorcycle late and some guys especially if you have a lot of tension if
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you create a lot of
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arm tension and really grip the club down at the bottom it's very hard to have
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the continued rotation
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so if you know that you have a constitution where you're more you're really
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going to hold on
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on the way through and tighten those arms then I would probably try to get it a
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little bit more
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close to spine angle um if you have some softness in your arms you can you have
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a little bit more
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flexibility you can do either or now that being said with if we're now talking
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short irons wedges
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I would like to see it closer to toe vertical if you're looking at more driver
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long irons I would
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like to see it closer to the spine angle but it's more um matching relative
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pieces rather than an
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absolute look that you're trying to train okay last one um but quick one on
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here is there an
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archive um I believe that they're linked on youtube um for those on the site I
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am going to um copy
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them over and create a playlist of all the archived uh Q&As so that way you can
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check out all the ones
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that I've done in the past um okay uh Jim had a last minute question he emailed
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right before um
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about the right arm what does the right arm do in the backswing in the down
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swing specifically
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the right wrist so um he he had some really good success working on the
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motorcycle and the wipe
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combo um but then he was getting a little bit of a steep steeper mispattern so
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we started to try
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to introduce some older deviation and in getting that older deviation we were
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losing what's going
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on at the the trail wrist um so in that last question I kind of described some
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of what's going on
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where basically that right wrist is going to um extend and radial deviate and
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it'll feel like it
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goes into some pronation as well um as long as the shoulder is then externally
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rotated that combo
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doesn't put it across the line where if I um don't it radial deviate and if I
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supinate but then I
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really let my elbow go that's actually the more common pattern for getting
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across the line so
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I'm rotated kind of like that with some good uh radial deviation then down
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through impact
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down at the bottom is the trickier zone um through early part of transition or
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sorry mid kind of
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late transition before you get into the release it's going to um increase that
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extension uh radial
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deviation and extension so it's gonna have that little white look and then in
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order to not bottom
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out and lose it uh lose that extension and basically lose your low point
842
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control um one of the big
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keys is making sure that the extension of the wrist is maintained it feels like
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it's maintained
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all the way through impact um but in practicality what'll happen is with the
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speed and the bracing
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you'll lose that risk through impact but what I find is golfers trying to lose
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00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:22.800
that wrist tend
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to have low point control issues where golfers trying to maintain that
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extension and have more
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of the rotation of the arm as opposed to more of kind of an attempt to hold it
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off like this
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tend to have better low point control it can get the low point forward with a
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little bit more
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um shallower contact so they can get shaft lean without a steep angle of attack
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which is uh one of
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the key different traders there for um you know good right arm mechanics okay
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uh so we we just
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crossed kind of the 45 minute zone that's kind of where I like to cap these so
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they're not too long
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enjoy the rest of march of madness and the master is coming up in two weeks is
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a fun time for sports
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if you have any questions then that either my comments here triggered or that
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somehow I missed
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and I didn't answer um please shoot me an email at support@golfsmartacademy.com
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if you haven't checked it out this is the the book that um a couple of the
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comments were referencing
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published in the fall um covers a lot of the overview of how I think my system
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works together
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and then if you're looking for more details on any of the movements or the
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drills head over to
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golfsmartacademy.com um please hopefully share this with your friends and uh
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yeah if you have any
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questions shoot them to me I enjoy doing these and we'll uh we'll get one
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scheduled here in the new
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future so thanks again for tuning in and enjoy your transition into the golf
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season
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Improve Arm Extension for Better Swing Power and Control
After this video, you'll be able to:
- Understand the role of arm extension in generating swing speed.
- Identify the difference between training for speed vs. control in your swing.
- Learn how proper arm movement can enhance your follow-through for better impact.
In this Q&A session, we dive into the importance of arm extension in your follow-through and how it affects your swing power and path control. Gain insights on training movements for effective speed generation and consistent ball striking.
Video Transcript
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Alright guys, welcome to the part two edition of the stream on the big
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movements. If you
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have any questions please post them in the chat window and I'll get to as many
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as I
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can. But as you can see I still had a bunch of email questions that I didn't
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have a chance
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in to get to. So let me know if there's any audio problems. I got the mic going
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so hopefully
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we're pretty good. I didn't mean to time it perfectly but hopefully some of you
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're jumping
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over from the Duke Kansas game and hopefully we can have an exciting little
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half time show
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here. Without further ado, okay Robbie sent a question in about the arm
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extension in the
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follow through. Is it better to train it as part of how you're generating speed
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or is
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it better to train it as part of how you're controlling path? His comment was
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the typically
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finds it works better training it with speed. Well, I'm not too big on absol
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utes because
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it could be related to how the golfer is controlling the path or it could be
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how they're controlling
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the speed. One thing one little kind of insight that I'll give is if it is more
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of a power
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related issue then training positions is usually not as effective as training
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movements. And
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so when you're talking about arm extension that can be more related to how they
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're powering
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the swing because what will happen is a lot of golfers down at the bottom will
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feel a
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sense of power by bracing and flipping the wrist creating a lot of kind of
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tension in
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the forearms right around impact versus having that continued motorcycle where
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the hands
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are still slightly ahead of the clubhead and the body is just continuing on the
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way through.
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element that a lot of golfers just feel stronger when they have more forearm
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tension and then
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when they have that forearms tension the body is going to stall right around
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impact. So
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training like my hit your arms drill or hit my arms tends to create more of a
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feeling
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of power with a different part of your body and that tends to help really well
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with the
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getting the better flat spot or arm extension. His second question was is pron
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ation of the
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trail foot so he was only last time about the trail foot and I talked about how
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ideally
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the sequence is the trail foot will tend to bank and then it will extend and
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then after
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impact it will rotate mostly because of the rotation of the pivot. His question
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was is
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that pronation of the trail foot independent or is it a reaction of other
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movements? Nothing
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is truly independent but if you think about it from a more global picture right
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if we think
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about it as I'm trying to push through the ground and I'm trying to kind of
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spiral that
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leg in a movement kind of like this so I'm letting my arm kind of almost mirror
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the way
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my foot is pushing against the ground. Well in order to use the big muscles of
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my hip my
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foot has to create an anchor my foot has to create kind of a connection point
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and so
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when I start banking that foot it's kind of part of pushing against the inside
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of the
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foot to allow for that hip to really create some some force because it'll be
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have a stronger
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fix point and be in a better position or relationship so it's not truly
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independent just as in like
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just by rolling the foot isn't going to make your sequence any get any better
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but if you're
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using the foot and the hip together the foot will bank slightly before the hip
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will go
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into extension and external rotation. Where should you look related that
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question? Where
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should you look if students struggle first with that first trail foot movement
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so if
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they struggle with more of that pronation the foot where should you look. First
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thing
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you want to do is just kind of Robbie's coach so I give him kind of the coach's
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perspective.
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First thing you want to do is just a basic kind of form flat and arches test if
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you're
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good with the feet you can take off the shoes and you can look at the mobility
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if the foot
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has a hard time banking inside on its own you're going to have a hard time
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doing it
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with speed in the golf swing. So first thing is just clearing that physical
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capability.
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The second piece would then be if they have a good enough release where they
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could handle
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having side bend and continue rotating because what'll happen is a lot of golf
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ers you start
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banking that foot and they start either catching it thin or fat or more on the
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toe because
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they haven't trained a good enough white position. So work on make sure they
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have a release that
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can support a good foot action and then screen the foot make sure that the foot
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is working
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properly that usually gets that first movement. Okay Bazz had a question about
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the power package.
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I don't have the power package training aid but it looks very much like a swing
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guy except
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it has a second handle coming off of it kind of like this. So the thing I do
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like it better
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than the swing guy. I've mentioned for the problem with the swing guy is it
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really emphasizes
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the radial deviation and it emphasizes rehinging on the second side or on the
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follow through
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side. It can help for not bending the arms because typically when you bend the
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arm in
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the follow through it would be hard to also get the swing guy up against the
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forearm. But
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typically what I see is golfers who practice a lot with that end up getting
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more of kind
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of an arm dominant pull in transition. So not a huge fan but the power package
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emphasizes
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a little bit more of the trail risk getting that extension. So I like it a
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little bit
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better but it does. I don't think it teaches the right arm rotation quite as
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well as it
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needs to. So it's more of kind of a transition and setting in top of the swing
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trainer for
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me than really a dynamic downswing trainer. But it's better than the swing guy.
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you're looking to improve your extension of the wrist it's not a bad training
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aid for
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working at home. Okay. Guy or Guy, I'm not sure what part of the world he's in,
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he asked
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about the lead knee motion. So the lead knee motion in transition basically
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internal external
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trying to get looking at where the knee is happening. So I'm going to lower the
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camera
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so we can kind of see what's going on here. So here's one of the tricky things.
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the question relates to is in the transition of basically okay if the knee
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stays in like
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this and I shift that's commonly referred to as internal rotation of the hip.
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if I get to the top of the swing and as I'm shifting that knee goes out that's
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typically
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referred to as external rotation of the hip or sometimes it's referred to as
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external
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rotation in the knee. By the book like the true knee rotation would actually
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happen more
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at the ankle like this. So when I turn that foot in that's the tibia rotating
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in and when
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I turn the foot out that's the tibia rotating out. So that's the true internal
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external rotation
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of the foot. So if I did external rotate or sorry of the knee if I did external
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rotation
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of the knee that's the same thing as the knee pointing in. So actually going
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that way would
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have more external rotation of the knee where if I go more out like this that
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would actually
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be more internal rotation of the knee. So the hard thing is the description
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that is most
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common doesn't really match the anatomical relationship. So the real question
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is do I
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want to have that knee stay put as I shift or should it work towards the target
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. I'll
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still be going into internal rotation. It's not a big difference as far as what
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's happening
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here at the hip as in. If I go this way I'm going into internal rotation if I
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go that
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way it's going into internal rotation. The big difference is typically what's
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with the trail leg and what's happening with the upper body. Ideally yes it's
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have a little bit more of a look of following. You don't want to have that look
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of the knee
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coming in. That's typically from a little bit too much upper body lunge or from
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going
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into that foot mechanic of spinning the heel as opposed to banking that foot.
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the look he's going for and describing is correct but the word of internal
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rotation unfortunately isn't quite accurate. Okay and then his last, his follow
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up question
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was kind of what does that play in rotation. As I demonstrated it's more of a
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sign of where
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the rotation is coming from. Here's how I look at it. So you want to take the
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big picture
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of what's the general movement and the general movement in the can be broken
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down into torsion.
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So in the there's two different types of torsion. I would have positive torsion
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is when let's say it's to the left it would be flexing forward in rotating or
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negative
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torsion. So I would be extending and rotating. Those are a combination of
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movements but blend
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into one. So it's called torsion. In the backswing we tend to have negative t
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orsion and then
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in the downswing we're going to have positive torsion and then during the
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release we're
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going back into negative torsion and when you look at it more from that
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perspective of
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the global picture of what's happening at the spine then what's happening at
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the legs
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should match what you're trying to do with the spine. So it's not just that if
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you get
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the proper knee action it will work perfectly. The key is making sure that the
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foot, the
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knee, the hip are all related to what the spine is doing. Alright I want to get
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through
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as many of these as I can. Bob asked a tricky question. He asked what muscle
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groups initiate
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the key movement. So what muscle groups initiate arm shallowing, the Jackson 5
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and the motorcycle.
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So here's where unfortunately my brain would go. Yes Mike, thanks for tuning in
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from Sweden.
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There's your shout out. I appreciate you. Okay back to Bob's question. What
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initiates
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the arm shallowing? What initiates the Jackson 5? The trick is going to be what
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are we feeling
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what is actually triggering it? And where does the motion take place? So like
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for example if I were doing a bicep curl, right? So if I was doing a bicep curl
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had sensors or if you had EMG measuring parts in my body the first thing you
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would see would
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be an impulse in my foot. Actually you would see my core and then you would see
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my foot
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and then you would see all the support up until the bicep. Then I would have a
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high activity
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of the bicep. So you'd say that this motion was a bicep activity but it started
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way down at the feet or in the core depending on how you're looking at it. So
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to the big movements like the arm shallowing the Jackson 5 and the motorcycle
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what initiates
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the movement may not be where you're ultimately going to feel it. I know that's
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a little bit
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pretty. So for example the arm shallow is really initiated more by the foot and
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the core and
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the rib cage rotation and having a little bit of reduced grip pressure
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the trail forearm. So many amateurs tend to really squeeze and pull down with
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the forearm
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as opposed to letting that forearm be soft and letting the speed come more from
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my body
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pulling on it and that body pull is initiating more at the feet because you
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need a fixed point
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in order to create force in a forcible way. So the arm shallow is initiated
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from the lower
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body or the core but you can feel it if you're actively doing it either in the
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lead forearm
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or in the trail shoulder you may even feel it more as a flexion kind of
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combination
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of the motorcycle movement. But that's again where you feel it and where the
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movement is
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actually originating might not be the same thing. So that's the arm shallow.
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his question was if when or sorry so with the motorcycle his question was is it
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more of
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an arm pull or core rotation on the way through. So basically here we'll switch
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legs so that
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I can rotate that way easier. So if I'm going on the way through the question
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was basically
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is it an arm pull in order to keep that rotation of the wrist or is it more a
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body pull and
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the arm just kind of rotates but follows the body pull. You know guys who
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showed with you
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can do either so whether it's more of like a Phil Mickelson upper body dominant
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where the arms are pulling it into position or more of like a Ben Hogan style
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where the
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body is pulling through. You can do either but the more repeatable pattern is
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the body
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pulls through and the arm just kind of stays a little bit softer in order to
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control the
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movement as opposed to really driving a powerful arm activity.
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Then the last one was about the Jackson 5. So I already talked to it's a little
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bit more
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going from the feet rather than from the hips. The key is that the foot and the
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hip and the
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spine kind of all work together in that side tilt Jackson 5 pattern. So I'm a
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big fan of
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using the feet properly to help get the hips and core working properly as well
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as long as
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the arms in the club are in a position where you can take advantage of it.
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So we'll take a quick break from the emails and we'll answer some of the
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questions because
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I see them starting to really pour in. Okay so first question was from William
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how to prevent
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early extension when performing the Jackson 5. The key thing there is when you
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are doing
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the Jackson 5 to make sure that it's going in the slightly left of the target
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not in
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the direction of the hips. So when I teach the Jackson 5 it's a lateral
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movement like
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this but then when I go to the top of the swing a lot of golfers still go
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lateral with
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the direction of the pelvis and they start going that way. So what you have to
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feel is
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that it's actually going a little bit more backwards. So if I was doing let's
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say a better
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version or a more swing and a related version of the Jackson 5 it would
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actually be more
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like I was going like this where the hips were going back 45 instead of purely
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at the
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target. That helps my body flex forward which is part of that positive torsion
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pattern.
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So that's the other piece is making sure that you're using your abs with that
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Jackson 5
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and not just using too much of your back in order to move your hips. You had a
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second
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question he got here first so he gets two questions answered. Ideally when does
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the club
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catch up with the hands after impact both for driver and six iron. For driver I
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use
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the reference of about chef parallel is where you know the guys like Jordan
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speed or Joe
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Durant or Jim Furyk or Henrik Stenson like guys who tend to be have really good
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ball
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striking statistics. The club will catch up with them a little bit later here.
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With an
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iron it's probably closer to about chef 45. Alright Craig working on the
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motorcycle move
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but still can't get my hands forward enough. Do I need more motorcycle or could
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it be something
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else. Definitely could be something else. Motorcycle movement is solves two
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problems motorcycle
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movement let's get a little bit better in frame. So motorcycle movement solves
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the slice
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and it solves shaft lean because when I flex that lead wrist or twist the club
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if I didn't
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get my hands ahead the club face will be pointed really close so I'm going to
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hit massive
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pulls so it's a key component to getting the hands ahead and it squares the
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face to the
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path relationship which prevents the slice. That being said if your arm timing
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is if your
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arm timing is more going into kind of this under flip pattern where that right
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arm stays
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behind your body and the palm stays facing kind of more towards you instead of
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facing
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more away that will move the bottom the swing backward. It's very hard to do
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that and keep
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the motorcycle but it is possible because I could very easily keep that left
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wrist flat
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and release the right arm a little bit earlier so you'll start to see the club
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coming up
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through impact. So I do a lot of trail arm training got a couple new drills
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that I'll
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be filming tomorrow that have been working pretty well but things like the
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single arm
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drills throws the disc catcher all seem to help train that right arm getting
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more in
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front which helps support the motorcycle of the lead wrist. Okay Nick asked
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what would
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you suggest for across the line and slightly open at the top the current
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transition pulls
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down the club opens the face a bit more fixed backswing or transition. I would
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tend to try
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both and see which works for you. What typically happens is some golfers their
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brain interprets
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transition later than it actually is on video. What I mean by that is I'll back
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up enough
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so that we've got plenty of room here. So what many golfers do is when they
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start doing
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a transition move it actually happens right around here. So what that means is
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all of
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this is kind of like a blind spot like their brain isn't really aware of what's
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going
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on at that point. So what I frequently have to do is train more trying to
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motorcycle
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to end the top of the backswing instead of starting the downswing. The other
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thing would
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be looking at the direction that you're pushing on the club. So whether you're
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pulling more
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down or whether you have a feeling of almost pushing more up that can have a I
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've got
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a video coming out probably next week not this week but the following week that
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relates
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to how the hands push on the club and how it relates to arm shallowing. I've
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had some
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good success with some kind of mid lower handicap golfers with that feel. One
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more and then
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we'll jump back to the the emails. All right what type of backswing would you
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recommend
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if the autonomic core system of lateral head of the bicep is injured since a
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couple months
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ago the 13 handicap. So lateral head of the bicep it's like is it more though
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is it the
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left arm bicep or is it the right arm bicep. I'll come back to your question
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but I need
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a little bit more information. Okay so let me jump into some more of the email
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questions
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and then we'll get to some of these questions pouring in online. All right so
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Adam, Adam
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asked if we were doing slow motion sequence positions what would kind of the
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tempo be.
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So basically like if we had position one is the takeaway two as the start of
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transition
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three end of transition beginning of release for end of the release with the
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tempo beat
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even. Typically most of the all the research will show that the downswing is
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about a third
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of the backswing. So it has kind of a little bit more of a one two versus a one
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two where
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it's more the same tempo would be more like wedge shots or is you're getting
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into putting
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but it tends to be much faster on the downswing. So if you're training tempo
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and rhythm I would
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tend to say if you're counting it out you would want a little bit like one
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thousand one
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two is something that I've used for golfers in the past instead of trying to
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count differently
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just take a word that is going to take a lot longer to say or about three times
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longer
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to say. So I would do that one that one piece takeaway as position one one
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thousand one
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two and that would kind of get me all the way through there. Now it's really
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hard if
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you're doing it in sequence to to break up the transition and the release. But
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if you're
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doing it in more of the actual phase I would recommend doing it at half speed.
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So you might
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have to say it twice so let's go one thousand one one thousand one one two. So
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you go one
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thousand one one thousand one one two. And that would be slow motion training
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of more
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of the release and the follow through with a little bit of a tempo component to
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it but
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the downswing tempo is usually about three times faster than the backswing.
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Okay Fred
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had a bunch of questions so we'll get through some of his. First one he was
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asking about
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the orange whip wedge he just got it and he asked how do you practice it can
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you use
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it for distance wedges as well as finesse. I'm definitely a bigger fan of using
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it for
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finesse and the way I like to use it I know a couple coaches that use it polar
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opposites
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but the way I like to use it is having my students try to make the swing where
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the wedge does
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not move so there's basically no downswing loading. I know of a coach who's
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really good
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at getting more of the speed out into the handle but the real benefit and what
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I like
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about that orange whip wedge is making sure that I'm not getting any loading of
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the shaft
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in transition so feeling really almost castee and like the arms dropping and
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the weight
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of the club head is starting the downswing. We know that that's not really the
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case there's
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definitely some lower body movement but it's a feeling of more the weight out
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of the club
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and when you use the wedge it won't bend and flex very much. Second I don't
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like it as
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well for distance wedges maybe up to about 50 yards but when you start getting
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past there
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if you do have any amount of motorcycle and shaft lean it'll tend or motorcycle
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and more
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of a power sequence it does tend to hit the ball off to the right so I like it
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a lot more
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for around the greens but I know that we're having stand out late here sometime
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this spring
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so I'll pick his brain about how he uses it for distance wedges because he's
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the he's
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the king of that training tool. Okay his second question do I prefer low flight
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ed wedges with
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no divot? So there's two parts to this question. I do prefer low flighted wed
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ges the tour average
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you know being somewhere around 30 degrees of launch angle when I watch the
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guys close
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up you don't really see anyone deviating from that pattern. Now the key there
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or the second
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part of the question was where you take no divot that is entirely grass
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dependent. I've
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seen different events where they're taking fairly significant divots and other
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events
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where the grass is barely moved so it really depends on the saturation the root
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structure.
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I like to get a certain baseline at your home course but the key there is wed
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ges are steep
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but they have a low point that's relatively close to the ground so it's steep
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and it has
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a fair amount of overtaking or the club passing on the way through compared to
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the full swing
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and that's part of how you can be steep and not really gouge the ground but the
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size of
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the divot is going to depend a fair amount on the third conditions. He asked
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let's see
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you one more thread and then we'll jump back. Where is my main power source so
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how can I
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tell in the book I talk about one of the areas you know being or one way being
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where are
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you sore. I just did a video this past week where I showed kind of one where I
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showed
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the one of the key differences in the different power sources. First I categor
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ize a more lower
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body core or we more upper body and that can be determined by what's going on
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in here.
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Once you've figured out whether your upper body or more core lower body it gets
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a little
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bit trickier to try and identify exactly whether you're doing it more from the
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right
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side or more from the left side or right arm or left arm and that's where I
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would go to
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more of the soreness but he mentioned that he feels it more in his lower back
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and that
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could be more of a transition or more of an impact kind of compensation as
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opposed to
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more of a creating speed creating power phenomena. So I would start with that
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kind
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of corner zone but basically the blend of transition to release will reveal a
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lot and
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then you you can do strategies like if you're more upper body dominant and you
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did more
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of a lead arm only or a trail arm only which one feels the most similar that
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will give
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you an idea as far as right first left. If you exaggerated more weight forward
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weight
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back you could break down the lower body a little bit that way but it's more of
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an art
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than a true science to figure out your exact power sources that way. Actually
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we'll do
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one more because he has a real quick one. How is lifting a power source? So I
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talk about
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chopped verse lift or crunched verse extend while those different patterns. So
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lifting
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is a power source just the same way a chop would be. So imagine I have a
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medicine ball
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or a cable machine and I was going to pull a medicine ball or cable down that
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way. That
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would be creating force in that direction. Now imagine that I had a cable down
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there
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and now I was going to pull that cable or throw a ball a medicine ball up that
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way.
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That would be more of a lift pattern and that's what you'll tend to see with
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the with
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more of the tour swing. So with more of the driver in the long irons you'll
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tend to see
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more of a pattern where the energy in those arms are lifting up off the body
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which complements
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the body rotation on the way through and then more in the wedges and the short
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irons you'll
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see more of that chop pattern which complements more of a drifting less kind of
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bracing and
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powered generation from the from the corn body. Okay let's get back to some of
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these
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00:30:10.720 --> 00:30:16.020
questions. Still didn't get which bicep from Mike so I got to move on. Golf
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Junkie asked
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00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.530
are the Zora loops initiated from a closed upper body should it feel as if the
550
00:30:21.530 --> 00:30:22.200
forearms
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00:30:22.200 --> 00:30:26.850
are rolling over. I understand that they are not but it might feel that they
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are. Yes the
553
00:30:29.120 --> 00:30:34.370
Zora loop is initiated basically at transition so your upper body is probably
554
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90 degrees
555
00:30:35.520 --> 00:30:42.530
closed at that point and what I like to what a lot of golfers describe the feel
556
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as is as
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00:30:43.480 --> 00:30:49.010
those arms roll over they're also extending and most golfers feel it as more of
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this extension
559
00:30:50.760 --> 00:30:55.060
not so much of a rolling over. The danger of if it feels too much like rolling
560
00:30:55.060 --> 00:30:55.640
over is
561
00:30:55.640 --> 00:31:00.070
down at the bottom you can get kind of this steep look and the club going that
562
00:31:00.070 --> 00:31:01.560
way where
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00:31:01.560 --> 00:31:06.050
if you have it more of the rotation where the club is going out the hands will
564
00:31:06.050 --> 00:31:06.720
work a little
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00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.390
bit more left but the club will finish down the line and you'll finish with the
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club more
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00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:18.960
in line with your forearms instead of that kind of quick flip look on the
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00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:20.960
follow through.
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Jason asked release question one of my favorite topics good question for one
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who has mobility
571
00:31:28.360 --> 00:31:33.670
limitations and struggles to get into right lateral bend what other perhaps
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00:31:33.670 --> 00:31:34.800
earlier shallowing
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00:31:34.800 --> 00:31:41.410
movements are essentially keep the path from going too far left so if you there
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's a there's
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00:31:43.280 --> 00:31:48.790
a later question to all kind of combo that one to one of Fred's he was asking
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about what
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00:31:49.560 --> 00:31:54.660
do you do with older golfers because once you get over the age of about 60 you
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lose about
579
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two thirds of your right lateral bend so you won't see too many Justin Johnson
580
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:01.280
's out on
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00:32:01.280 --> 00:32:06.570
the senior tour it's just a phenomenon of what happens to the spine well I I
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00:32:06.570 --> 00:32:08.760
coach I tell most
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of my senior golfers to do some stretching and try to get as much from the hips
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as you
585
00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:18.170
can because there's no real reason you need to lose a lot of the hip mobility
586
00:32:18.170 --> 00:32:18.960
if you can't
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00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:24.710
do the spine but let's for argument sake say that we've lost that ability to
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00:32:24.710 --> 00:32:25.400
really right
589
00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:30.060
lateral bend either from the hips or from the spot so now since this isn't
590
00:32:30.060 --> 00:32:30.920
going to get
591
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.790
down towards the ground I'm going to have to use my arms a little bit earlier
592
00:32:34.790 --> 00:32:35.520
so straving
593
00:32:35.520 --> 00:32:42.350
the arms is a shallower and the the danger is that that will cause the low
594
00:32:42.350 --> 00:32:43.120
point to move
595
00:32:43.120 --> 00:32:49.130
backward unless I drift a little bit more forward so what I usually coach is if
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00:32:49.130 --> 00:32:49.680
you're
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00:32:49.680 --> 00:32:54.100
going to do more of an upper body cast pattern I focus a lot on upper body
598
00:32:54.100 --> 00:32:55.120
stability and
599
00:32:55.120 --> 00:33:00.630
I focus more on kind of the rhythm of when the arms extend instead of the
600
00:33:00.630 --> 00:33:02.320
absolute positions
601
00:33:02.320 --> 00:33:08.840
I also still focus and get a lot of success working on the motorcycle movement
602
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and it's
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00:33:09.600 --> 00:33:16.120
more of a kind of getting those arms to extend out in front as opposed to less
604
00:33:16.120 --> 00:33:18.480
of that like
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00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.790
body driven white movement it's more just the arm direction white movement you
606
00:33:22.790 --> 00:33:23.320
'll tend
607
00:33:23.320 --> 00:33:27.210
to have a little bit steeper angle of attack that way so for the longer clubs
608
00:33:27.210 --> 00:33:28.000
you may have
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00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:34.990
to make some conversations potentially a little bit more loft playing a shorter
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00:33:34.990 --> 00:33:35.480
club some
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00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:41.690
setup changes but I typically what if you've lost lateral bend a cast pattern
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00:33:41.690 --> 00:33:42.560
does help
613
00:33:42.560 --> 00:33:46.870
in terms of shallowing things out and making sure that you're not spinning too
614
00:33:46.870 --> 00:33:47.480
much from
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your upper body can help make sure it showers it out both of those would help
616
00:33:51.340 --> 00:33:51.960
prevent the
617
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path from getting too far left Jason also said the book is fantastic by the way
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thank
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you very much I really appreciate the feedback some of it's been a little
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overwhelming the
621
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way you empower the readers to deco the pattern and the stuffs on steep and
622
00:34:10.140 --> 00:34:11.320
shallows is gold
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well thank you very much I you know I had a lesson this week and the gentleman
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said that
625
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:24.300
you know he doesn't hit every shot perfectly but it's fun because he's at least
626
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able to
627
00:34:25.120 --> 00:34:29.560
move the needle as he described it or basically he can kind of self correct if
628
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he starts having
629
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some problems so that's the that's what I think is the ultimate goal right no
630
00:34:37.900 --> 00:34:38.520
one ever
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has their swing perfect forever the goal is that you learn the tools to be able
632
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to course
633
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.060
correct and self-correct when it gets off because I promise if you think you
634
00:34:49.060 --> 00:34:51.280
have it today by next
635
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:55.380
week something will have crept in and you better have the strategy to be able
636
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to handle it Patrick
637
00:34:58.240 --> 00:35:03.870
asked can you explain how to shallow the arms while the hand path works down
638
00:35:03.870 --> 00:35:05.200
mine tend to work
639
00:35:05.200 --> 00:35:14.630
out too much so typically working through this question so typically when the
640
00:35:14.630 --> 00:35:16.080
hands move out
641
00:35:16.080 --> 00:35:21.370
the club will shallow unless it goes more everything together so let's say that
642
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my interpretation of
643
00:35:23.120 --> 00:35:26.090
the question is that everything is going out together so the club's not shall
644
00:35:26.090 --> 00:35:27.200
owing what's typically
645
00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:32.710
happening there is that more of the that transition move is happening more from
646
00:35:32.710 --> 00:35:34.400
that left shoulder
647
00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:41.730
kind of spinning as opposed to a feeling getting more of a little bit of
648
00:35:41.730 --> 00:35:44.400
stretch so if I if I face
649
00:35:44.400 --> 00:35:48.790
this way what you'll see is as my lower body starts can you see how that
650
00:35:48.790 --> 00:35:50.160
shoulder blade gets
651
00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:56.420
stretched a bit so the shoulder is not following the rib cage movement for the
652
00:35:56.420 --> 00:35:58.080
initial portion of
653
00:35:58.080 --> 00:36:04.630
the downswing allowing the arms to have some softness and let them kind of
654
00:36:04.630 --> 00:36:05.840
shallow a bit
655
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:10.820
a bit because again typically when the hands work out if it's purely from the
656
00:36:10.820 --> 00:36:11.920
arms perspective
657
00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:16.460
that's the force that causes it to shallow but if the hands work out because of
658
00:36:16.460 --> 00:36:17.280
the body or the
659
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.680
left shoulder kind of pulling back that will cause it to steepen okay let's get
660
00:36:22.680 --> 00:36:24.480
back to a few of these
661
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:33.680
email questions so Fred asked if the kinematic sequence isn't the only way what
662
00:36:33.680 --> 00:36:34.400
other successful
663
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:38.900
patterns do you see so in the last class he was asking about or in the last
664
00:36:38.900 --> 00:36:40.160
youtube live he was
665
00:36:40.160 --> 00:36:45.780
asking about what kinematic like what's the stock tour swing kinematic sequence
666
00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:47.440
pattern and
667
00:36:48.720 --> 00:36:54.480
I with the kinematic sequence you will typically see a very consistent
668
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:55.680
transition sequence of
669
00:36:55.680 --> 00:37:02.960
pelvis um pelvis trunk arm club but when you start working at looking at the pe
670
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:04.240
aking order
671
00:37:04.240 --> 00:37:10.000
you'll typically see the lower body go first but or peak first but not always
672
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:10.560
sometimes it has
673
00:37:10.560 --> 00:37:16.560
more of a plateau sometimes it's later um it really depends on swing styles
674
00:37:16.560 --> 00:37:18.080
body capabilities release
675
00:37:18.080 --> 00:37:24.000
patterns whether you prioritize distance whether you prioritize accuracy so the
676
00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:24.880
transition I would
677
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:29.570
say you know what what everybody said the kinematics sequence shows absolutely
678
00:37:29.570 --> 00:37:30.560
correct what everyone's
679
00:37:30.560 --> 00:37:35.280
talked from the ground up all that stuff is well and true if you're talking
680
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:36.560
about the downswing
681
00:37:36.560 --> 00:37:42.240
peaking order I've just seen way too many examples of really good ball strikers
682
00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:43.360
like you know elite
683
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:48.020
level toward ball strikers who don't have a perfect uh one two three four kinem
684
00:37:48.020 --> 00:37:49.440
atic sequence oftentimes
685
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:55.200
it's one three two four uh but there are some really good ball strikers who
686
00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:56.160
where it's more
687
00:37:56.160 --> 00:38:04.160
stacked up and the time delay between one two three are is almost nothing so um
688
00:38:04.160 --> 00:38:04.800
I would say
689
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:11.790
if you're use the kinematic sequence and more as a reference for guiding what
690
00:38:11.790 --> 00:38:12.720
you want to work on
691
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:19.050
in the gym like where the potential injury points are where the potential
692
00:38:19.050 --> 00:38:20.320
weaknesses or
693
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:26.150
inhibitions are and then use that as more of a long-term focus of what to work
694
00:38:26.150 --> 00:38:27.280
on rehab wise
695
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:32.410
strength wise as opposed to um the downswing peaking port order being an
696
00:38:32.410 --> 00:38:33.760
absolute guide of
697
00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:39.880
what it takes to be consistent uh so I um I kind of already answered his last
698
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.000
question about golfers
699
00:38:42.000 --> 00:38:46.810
who can't left tilt during stiff uh due to stiffness but he did ask about what
700
00:38:46.810 --> 00:38:47.600
about early
701
00:38:47.600 --> 00:38:53.590
extension um I basically okay so if I can't left tilt or sorry if I can't right
702
00:38:53.590 --> 00:38:54.560
tilt then
703
00:38:54.560 --> 00:39:01.670
maybe I can early extend in order to create um some of the shallowness well um
704
00:39:01.670 --> 00:39:02.960
I'm not a big fan
705
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.560
of coaching early extension at any level if you're going if you need to be
706
00:39:06.560 --> 00:39:07.680
taller to be shallower
707
00:39:07.680 --> 00:39:12.100
than I would recommend starting taller to begin with for my older golfers um I
708
00:39:12.100 --> 00:39:13.760
think that the
709
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:21.440
bigger combination is getting more of a um cast pattern so getting that arm to
710
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:21.920
straighten a
711
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:26.480
little bit sooner and timing that with the right amount of lunge and the right
712
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:27.840
amount of upper body
713
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:32.800
position so I do a lot of upper body location training making sure that um they
714
00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:34.000
're pretty accurate
715
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.680
with where that is and I do a lot of rhythm training and I still do a lot of
716
00:39:38.680 --> 00:39:40.240
the motorcycle training
717
00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:46.600
it's just a little bit more arm driven instead of um more body driven okay uh
718
00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:49.840
question from Joseph
719
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:55.350
when uh he's working on the motorcycle he says when I kind of do it too quickly
720
00:39:55.350 --> 00:39:58.560
um and so basically
721
00:39:58.560 --> 00:40:03.680
what he's asking is when he's doing the motorcycle he he kind of does it really
722
00:40:03.680 --> 00:40:05.120
aggressively at the
723
00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:09.460
top and what ends up happening is it goes a little bit steep like this so he
724
00:40:09.460 --> 00:40:10.720
tends to hit more of
725
00:40:10.720 --> 00:40:16.390
kind of steep and um chunky poles um what I would say there is really monitor
726
00:40:16.390 --> 00:40:17.520
the grip pressure
727
00:40:17.520 --> 00:40:23.740
especially in that trail hand um and work a little bit more on the owner
728
00:40:23.740 --> 00:40:25.680
deviation or getting the club
729
00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:31.600
to shallow out um this way while you're doing it what can what can happen is if
730
00:40:31.600 --> 00:40:32.560
you just focus on
731
00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:37.360
that motorcycle movement the past starts to get too steep and then you have um
732
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:38.240
some of what he
733
00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:42.490
described as toe contact you have some of these predictable mispatterns um that
734
00:40:42.490 --> 00:40:43.440
happen from more
735
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:49.250
of a steepness not from a motorcycle thing uh he asks when does the lead wrist
736
00:40:49.250 --> 00:40:50.640
go into supination
737
00:40:50.640 --> 00:40:56.260
um so on the 3d graphs the lead wrist will start going into supination right
738
00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:57.760
around shaft 45 so
739
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:03.700
kind of right about here is where the wrist starts to supinate and the neat
740
00:41:03.700 --> 00:41:06.240
thing is it's as it's
741
00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:10.780
going in transition so through here it's pronating so that I can start sup
742
00:41:10.780 --> 00:41:12.240
inating without having the
743
00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:17.120
club follow it initially so it kind of ramps up it's not really an explosive
744
00:41:17.120 --> 00:41:18.800
the explosive action
745
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:23.930
but it starts right about here and it'll end um basically at the end of the
746
00:41:23.930 --> 00:41:25.040
release roughly shaft
747
00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:31.900
parallel to the ground uh here's the last question um how does the trail wrist
748
00:41:31.900 --> 00:41:34.160
go into extension um
749
00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:39.200
from p2 to the top of the swing and make it more vertical not behind um well
750
00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:40.800
when we look at how
751
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:47.320
the wrists are on the club um that trail wrist is not truly on the side of the
752
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.320
club it's a little
753
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:53.110
bit more on top so when I extend the wrist especially if I add radial deviation
754
00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:54.640
at the same time
755
00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:59.520
that will tend to move the club more up in line with the forearm as opposed to
756
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:01.520
around this way to
757
00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:07.530
get it more around this way you'll see in addition to extension I also had to
758
00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:08.960
do a fair amount of
759
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:17.120
rotation right so working on that trail wrist to um extend wall radial dev
760
00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:19.920
iating um will help make
761
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:25.920
it more uh vertical as opposed to extension and letting that shoulder rotate or
762
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.120
letting that lead
763
00:42:27.120 --> 00:42:32.390
arm come away too much which would make it a little bit more horizontally um
764
00:42:32.390 --> 00:42:34.080
the key there is the if
765
00:42:34.080 --> 00:42:38.970
you get it more vertical so if you're across the line I'll exaggerate if I'm
766
00:42:38.970 --> 00:42:40.560
really across the line
767
00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:44.830
then I really have to shallow um the more that I get it in that horizontal
768
00:42:44.830 --> 00:42:46.000
position more like a
769
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:52.420
john rom I don't have to shallow quite as um aggressively or as long so just
770
00:42:52.420 --> 00:42:54.480
making sure that
771
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.650
you're utilizing radial deviation um while you're going into extension because
772
00:42:59.650 --> 00:43:00.400
those are kind of
773
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.960
couple motions and making sure that it's not um rotating too much uh supination
774
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.400
will prevent it
775
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:17.520
from getting um too flat at the top or too flat or more around you okay um come
776
00:43:17.520 --> 00:43:18.880
back to that when
777
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:24.320
I see another live question Craig where should you where do I like to see the
778
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:25.680
club face at P2
779
00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:32.230
and at P6 should it match the spine angle or both at both positions um I'm a
780
00:43:32.230 --> 00:43:36.560
lot uh as far as P2 goes
781
00:43:36.560 --> 00:43:43.710
I'm definitely like I look at the ranges and where it is at P2 is um you can be
782
00:43:43.710 --> 00:43:45.120
anywhere from let's
783
00:43:45.120 --> 00:43:49.620
say vertical to spine angle and I guess I would say that's pretty close to the
784
00:43:49.620 --> 00:43:51.680
same at P6 um anywhere
785
00:43:51.680 --> 00:43:55.450
from vertical to spine angle the the key thing is understanding the
786
00:43:55.450 --> 00:43:57.280
relationship of okay the more
787
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.070
closed it is the more that I could um body rotate and wipe so the more I could
788
00:44:02.070 --> 00:44:03.600
potentially take the
789
00:44:03.600 --> 00:44:09.100
hands out of it um the the more vertical it is the more I'm still going to have
790
00:44:09.100 --> 00:44:10.080
to continue
791
00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:14.670
that motorcycle late and some guys especially if you have a lot of tension if
792
00:44:14.670 --> 00:44:16.400
you create a lot of
793
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.600
arm tension and really grip the club down at the bottom it's very hard to have
794
00:44:21.600 --> 00:44:22.960
the continued rotation
795
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.350
so if you know that you have a constitution where you're more you're really
796
00:44:27.350 --> 00:44:28.640
going to hold on
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on the way through and tighten those arms then I would probably try to get it a
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little bit more
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close to spine angle um if you have some softness in your arms you can you have
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a little bit more
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flexibility you can do either or now that being said with if we're now talking
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short irons wedges
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I would like to see it closer to toe vertical if you're looking at more driver
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long irons I would
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like to see it closer to the spine angle but it's more um matching relative
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pieces rather than an
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absolute look that you're trying to train okay last one um but quick one on
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here is there an
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archive um I believe that they're linked on youtube um for those on the site I
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am going to um copy
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them over and create a playlist of all the archived uh Q&As so that way you can
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check out all the ones
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that I've done in the past um okay uh Jim had a last minute question he emailed
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right before um
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about the right arm what does the right arm do in the backswing in the down
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swing specifically
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the right wrist so um he he had some really good success working on the
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motorcycle and the wipe
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combo um but then he was getting a little bit of a steep steeper mispattern so
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we started to try
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to introduce some older deviation and in getting that older deviation we were
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losing what's going
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on at the the trail wrist um so in that last question I kind of described some
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of what's going on
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where basically that right wrist is going to um extend and radial deviate and
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it'll feel like it
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goes into some pronation as well um as long as the shoulder is then externally
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rotated that combo
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doesn't put it across the line where if I um don't it radial deviate and if I
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supinate but then I
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really let my elbow go that's actually the more common pattern for getting
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across the line so
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I'm rotated kind of like that with some good uh radial deviation then down
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through impact
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down at the bottom is the trickier zone um through early part of transition or
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sorry mid kind of
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late transition before you get into the release it's going to um increase that
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extension uh radial
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deviation and extension so it's gonna have that little white look and then in
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order to not bottom
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out and lose it uh lose that extension and basically lose your low point
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control um one of the big
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keys is making sure that the extension of the wrist is maintained it feels like
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it's maintained
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all the way through impact um but in practicality what'll happen is with the
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speed and the bracing
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you'll lose that risk through impact but what I find is golfers trying to lose
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that wrist tend
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to have low point control issues where golfers trying to maintain that
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extension and have more
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of the rotation of the arm as opposed to more of kind of an attempt to hold it
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off like this
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tend to have better low point control it can get the low point forward with a
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little bit more
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um shallower contact so they can get shaft lean without a steep angle of attack
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which is uh one of
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the key different traders there for um you know good right arm mechanics okay
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uh so we we just
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crossed kind of the 45 minute zone that's kind of where I like to cap these so
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they're not too long
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enjoy the rest of march of madness and the master is coming up in two weeks is
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a fun time for sports
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if you have any questions then that either my comments here triggered or that
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somehow I missed
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and I didn't answer um please shoot me an email at support@golfsmartacademy.com
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if you haven't checked it out this is the the book that um a couple of the
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comments were referencing
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published in the fall um covers a lot of the overview of how I think my system
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works together
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and then if you're looking for more details on any of the movements or the
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drills head over to
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golfsmartacademy.com um please hopefully share this with your friends and uh
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yeah if you have any
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questions shoot them to me I enjoy doing these and we'll uh we'll get one
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scheduled here in the new
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future so thanks again for tuning in and enjoy your transition into the golf
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season
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Alright guys, welcome to the part two edition of the stream on the big
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movements. If you
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have any questions please post them in the chat window and I'll get to as many
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can. But as you can see I still had a bunch of email questions that I didn't
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have a chance
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in to get to. So let me know if there's any audio problems. I got the mic going
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we're pretty good. I didn't mean to time it perfectly but hopefully some of you
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're jumping
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over from the Duke Kansas game and hopefully we can have an exciting little
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half time show
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here. Without further ado, okay Robbie sent a question in about the arm
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extension in the
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follow through. Is it better to train it as part of how you're generating speed
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or is
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it better to train it as part of how you're controlling path? His comment was
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the typically
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finds it works better training it with speed. Well, I'm not too big on absol
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utes because
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it could be related to how the golfer is controlling the path or it could be
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how they're controlling
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the speed. One thing one little kind of insight that I'll give is if it is more
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of a power
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related issue then training positions is usually not as effective as training
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movements. And
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so when you're talking about arm extension that can be more related to how they
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're powering
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the swing because what will happen is a lot of golfers down at the bottom will
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feel a
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sense of power by bracing and flipping the wrist creating a lot of kind of
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tension in
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the forearms right around impact versus having that continued motorcycle where
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the hands
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are still slightly ahead of the clubhead and the body is just continuing on the
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way through.
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speed
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element that a lot of golfers just feel stronger when they have more forearm
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tension and then
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when they have that forearms tension the body is going to stall right around
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impact. So
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training like my hit your arms drill or hit my arms tends to create more of a
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feeling
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of power with a different part of your body and that tends to help really well
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with the
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getting the better flat spot or arm extension. His second question was is pron
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ation of the
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trail foot so he was only last time about the trail foot and I talked about how
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ideally
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the sequence is the trail foot will tend to bank and then it will extend and
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then after
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impact it will rotate mostly because of the rotation of the pivot. His question
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was is
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that pronation of the trail foot independent or is it a reaction of other
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movements? Nothing
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is truly independent but if you think about it from a more global picture right
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if we think
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about it as I'm trying to push through the ground and I'm trying to kind of
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spiral that
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leg in a movement kind of like this so I'm letting my arm kind of almost mirror
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the way
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my foot is pushing against the ground. Well in order to use the big muscles of
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my hip my
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foot has to create an anchor my foot has to create kind of a connection point
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and so
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when I start banking that foot it's kind of part of pushing against the inside
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of the
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foot to allow for that hip to really create some some force because it'll be
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have a stronger
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fix point and be in a better position or relationship so it's not truly
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independent just as in like
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just by rolling the foot isn't going to make your sequence any get any better
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but if you're
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using the foot and the hip together the foot will bank slightly before the hip
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will go
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into extension and external rotation. Where should you look related that
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question? Where
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should you look if students struggle first with that first trail foot movement
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so if
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they struggle with more of that pronation the foot where should you look. First
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you want to do is just kind of Robbie's coach so I give him kind of the coach's
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perspective.
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you're
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good with the feet you can take off the shoes and you can look at the mobility
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has a hard time banking inside on its own you're going to have a hard time
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doing it
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with speed in the golf swing. So first thing is just clearing that physical
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capability.
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The second piece would then be if they have a good enough release where they
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could handle
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having side bend and continue rotating because what'll happen is a lot of golf
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ers you start
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banking that foot and they start either catching it thin or fat or more on the
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toe because
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they haven't trained a good enough white position. So work on make sure they
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have a release that
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can support a good foot action and then screen the foot make sure that the foot
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is working
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properly that usually gets that first movement. Okay Bazz had a question about
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the power package.
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I don't have the power package training aid but it looks very much like a swing
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guy except
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it has a second handle coming off of it kind of like this. So the thing I do
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like it better
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than the swing guy. I've mentioned for the problem with the swing guy is it
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really emphasizes
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the radial deviation and it emphasizes rehinging on the second side or on the
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follow through
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side. It can help for not bending the arms because typically when you bend the
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arm in
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the follow through it would be hard to also get the swing guy up against the
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forearm. But
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typically what I see is golfers who practice a lot with that end up getting
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more of kind
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of an arm dominant pull in transition. So not a huge fan but the power package
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emphasizes
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a little bit more of the trail risk getting that extension. So I like it a
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little bit
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better but it does. I don't think it teaches the right arm rotation quite as
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well as it
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needs to. So it's more of kind of a transition and setting in top of the swing
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trainer for
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me than really a dynamic downswing trainer. But it's better than the swing guy.
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you're looking to improve your extension of the wrist it's not a bad training
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aid for
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working at home. Okay. Guy or Guy, I'm not sure what part of the world he's in,
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he asked
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about the lead knee motion. So the lead knee motion in transition basically
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internal external
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trying to get looking at where the knee is happening. So I'm going to lower the
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camera
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so we can kind of see what's going on here. So here's one of the tricky things.
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What
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the question relates to is in the transition of basically okay if the knee
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stays in like
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this and I shift that's commonly referred to as internal rotation of the hip.
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if I get to the top of the swing and as I'm shifting that knee goes out that's
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typically
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referred to as external rotation of the hip or sometimes it's referred to as
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external
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rotation in the knee. By the book like the true knee rotation would actually
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happen more
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at the ankle like this. So when I turn that foot in that's the tibia rotating
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in and when
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I turn the foot out that's the tibia rotating out. So that's the true internal
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external rotation
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of the foot. So if I did external rotate or sorry of the knee if I did external
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rotation
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of the knee that's the same thing as the knee pointing in. So actually going
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that way would
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have more external rotation of the knee where if I go more out like this that
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would actually
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be more internal rotation of the knee. So the hard thing is the description
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that is most
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common doesn't really match the anatomical relationship. So the real question
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is do I
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want to have that knee stay put as I shift or should it work towards the target
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. I'll
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still be going into internal rotation. It's not a big difference as far as what
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's happening
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here at the hip as in. If I go this way I'm going into internal rotation if I
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go that
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way it's going into internal rotation. The big difference is typically what's
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happening
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with the trail leg and what's happening with the upper body. Ideally yes it's
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going to
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have a little bit more of a look of following. You don't want to have that look
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of the knee
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coming in. That's typically from a little bit too much upper body lunge or from
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into that foot mechanic of spinning the heel as opposed to banking that foot.
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the look he's going for and describing is correct but the word of internal
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rotation unfortunately isn't quite accurate. Okay and then his last, his follow
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up question
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was kind of what does that play in rotation. As I demonstrated it's more of a
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sign of where
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the rotation is coming from. Here's how I look at it. So you want to take the
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big picture
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of what's the general movement and the general movement in the can be broken
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down into torsion.
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is when let's say it's to the left it would be flexing forward in rotating or
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negative
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torsion. So I would be extending and rotating. Those are a combination of
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movements but blend
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into one. So it's called torsion. In the backswing we tend to have negative t
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orsion and then
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in the downswing we're going to have positive torsion and then during the
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release we're
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going back into negative torsion and when you look at it more from that
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perspective of
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the global picture of what's happening at the spine then what's happening at
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the legs
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should match what you're trying to do with the spine. So it's not just that if
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you get
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the proper knee action it will work perfectly. The key is making sure that the
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foot, the
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knee, the hip are all related to what the spine is doing. Alright I want to get
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through
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as many of these as I can. Bob asked a tricky question. He asked what muscle
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groups initiate
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the key movement. So what muscle groups initiate arm shallowing, the Jackson 5
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and the motorcycle.
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So here's where unfortunately my brain would go. Yes Mike, thanks for tuning in
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from Sweden.
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There's your shout out. I appreciate you. Okay back to Bob's question. What
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initiates
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the arm shallowing? What initiates the Jackson 5? The trick is going to be what
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are we feeling
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what is actually triggering it? And where does the motion take place? So like
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for example if I were doing a bicep curl, right? So if I was doing a bicep curl
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had sensors or if you had EMG measuring parts in my body the first thing you
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would see would
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be an impulse in my foot. Actually you would see my core and then you would see
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my foot
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and then you would see all the support up until the bicep. Then I would have a
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high activity
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of the bicep. So you'd say that this motion was a bicep activity but it started
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all the
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way down at the feet or in the core depending on how you're looking at it. So
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to the big movements like the arm shallowing the Jackson 5 and the motorcycle
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what initiates
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the movement may not be where you're ultimately going to feel it. I know that's
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a little bit
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pretty. So for example the arm shallow is really initiated more by the foot and
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the core and
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the rib cage rotation and having a little bit of reduced grip pressure
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especially in
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the trail forearm. So many amateurs tend to really squeeze and pull down with
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the forearm
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as opposed to letting that forearm be soft and letting the speed come more from
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my body
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pulling on it and that body pull is initiating more at the feet because you
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need a fixed point
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in order to create force in a forcible way. So the arm shallow is initiated
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from the lower
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body or the core but you can feel it if you're actively doing it either in the
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lead forearm
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or in the trail shoulder you may even feel it more as a flexion kind of
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combination
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of the motorcycle movement. But that's again where you feel it and where the
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movement is
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actually originating might not be the same thing. So that's the arm shallow.
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his question was if when or sorry so with the motorcycle his question was is it
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more of
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an arm pull or core rotation on the way through. So basically here we'll switch
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legs so that
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I can rotate that way easier. So if I'm going on the way through the question
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was basically
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is it an arm pull in order to keep that rotation of the wrist or is it more a
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body pull and
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the arm just kind of rotates but follows the body pull. You know guys who
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showed with you
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can do either so whether it's more of like a Phil Mickelson upper body dominant
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style
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where the arms are pulling it into position or more of like a Ben Hogan style
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where the
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body is pulling through. You can do either but the more repeatable pattern is
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the body
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pulls through and the arm just kind of stays a little bit softer in order to
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control the
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movement as opposed to really driving a powerful arm activity.
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Then the last one was about the Jackson 5. So I already talked to it's a little
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bit more
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going from the feet rather than from the hips. The key is that the foot and the
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hip and the
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spine kind of all work together in that side tilt Jackson 5 pattern. So I'm a
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big fan of
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using the feet properly to help get the hips and core working properly as well
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as long as
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the arms in the club are in a position where you can take advantage of it.
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So we'll take a quick break from the emails and we'll answer some of the
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questions because
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I see them starting to really pour in. Okay so first question was from William
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how to prevent
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early extension when performing the Jackson 5. The key thing there is when you
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are doing
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the Jackson 5 to make sure that it's going in the slightly left of the target
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not in
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the direction of the hips. So when I teach the Jackson 5 it's a lateral
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movement like
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this but then when I go to the top of the swing a lot of golfers still go
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lateral with
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the direction of the pelvis and they start going that way. So what you have to
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feel is
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that it's actually going a little bit more backwards. So if I was doing let's
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say a better
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version or a more swing and a related version of the Jackson 5 it would
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actually be more
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like I was going like this where the hips were going back 45 instead of purely
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at the
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target. That helps my body flex forward which is part of that positive torsion
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pattern.
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So that's the other piece is making sure that you're using your abs with that
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Jackson 5
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and not just using too much of your back in order to move your hips. You had a
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second
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question he got here first so he gets two questions answered. Ideally when does
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the club
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catch up with the hands after impact both for driver and six iron. For driver I
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use
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the reference of about chef parallel is where you know the guys like Jordan
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speed or Joe
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Durant or Jim Furyk or Henrik Stenson like guys who tend to be have really good
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ball
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striking statistics. The club will catch up with them a little bit later here.
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iron it's probably closer to about chef 45. Alright Craig working on the
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motorcycle move
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but still can't get my hands forward enough. Do I need more motorcycle or could
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it be something
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else. Definitely could be something else. Motorcycle movement is solves two
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problems motorcycle
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movement let's get a little bit better in frame. So motorcycle movement solves
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the slice
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and it solves shaft lean because when I flex that lead wrist or twist the club
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if I didn't
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get my hands ahead the club face will be pointed really close so I'm going to
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hit massive
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pulls so it's a key component to getting the hands ahead and it squares the
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face to the
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path relationship which prevents the slice. That being said if your arm timing
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is if your
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arm timing is more going into kind of this under flip pattern where that right
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arm stays
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behind your body and the palm stays facing kind of more towards you instead of
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facing
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more away that will move the bottom the swing backward. It's very hard to do
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that and keep
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the motorcycle but it is possible because I could very easily keep that left
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wrist flat
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and release the right arm a little bit earlier so you'll start to see the club
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coming up
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through impact. So I do a lot of trail arm training got a couple new drills
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that I'll
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be filming tomorrow that have been working pretty well but things like the
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single arm
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drills throws the disc catcher all seem to help train that right arm getting
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more in
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front which helps support the motorcycle of the lead wrist. Okay Nick asked
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what would
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you suggest for across the line and slightly open at the top the current
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transition pulls
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down the club opens the face a bit more fixed backswing or transition. I would
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tend to try
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both and see which works for you. What typically happens is some golfers their
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brain interprets
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transition later than it actually is on video. What I mean by that is I'll back
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up enough
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so that we've got plenty of room here. So what many golfers do is when they
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start doing
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a transition move it actually happens right around here. So what that means is
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all of
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this is kind of like a blind spot like their brain isn't really aware of what's
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going
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on at that point. So what I frequently have to do is train more trying to
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motorcycle
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to end the top of the backswing instead of starting the downswing. The other
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thing would
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be looking at the direction that you're pushing on the club. So whether you're
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pulling more
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down or whether you have a feeling of almost pushing more up that can have a I
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've got
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a video coming out probably next week not this week but the following week that
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relates
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to how the hands push on the club and how it relates to arm shallowing. I've
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had some
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good success with some kind of mid lower handicap golfers with that feel. One
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more and then
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we'll jump back to the the emails. All right what type of backswing would you
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recommend
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if the autonomic core system of lateral head of the bicep is injured since a
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couple months
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ago the 13 handicap. So lateral head of the bicep it's like is it more though
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is it the
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left arm bicep or is it the right arm bicep. I'll come back to your question
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but I need
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a little bit more information. Okay so let me jump into some more of the email
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questions
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and then we'll get to some of these questions pouring in online. All right so
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Adam, Adam
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asked if we were doing slow motion sequence positions what would kind of the
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tempo be.
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So basically like if we had position one is the takeaway two as the start of
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transition
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three end of transition beginning of release for end of the release with the
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tempo beat
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even. Typically most of the all the research will show that the downswing is
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about a third
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of the backswing. So it has kind of a little bit more of a one two versus a one
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two where
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it's more the same tempo would be more like wedge shots or is you're getting
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into putting
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but it tends to be much faster on the downswing. So if you're training tempo
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and rhythm I would
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tend to say if you're counting it out you would want a little bit like one
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thousand one
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two is something that I've used for golfers in the past instead of trying to
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count differently
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just take a word that is going to take a lot longer to say or about three times
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longer
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to say. So I would do that one that one piece takeaway as position one one
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thousand one
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two and that would kind of get me all the way through there. Now it's really
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hard if
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you're doing it in sequence to to break up the transition and the release. But
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if you're
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doing it in more of the actual phase I would recommend doing it at half speed.
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So you might
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have to say it twice so let's go one thousand one one thousand one one two. So
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you go one
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thousand one one thousand one one two. And that would be slow motion training
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of more
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of the release and the follow through with a little bit of a tempo component to
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it but
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the downswing tempo is usually about three times faster than the backswing.
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had a bunch of questions so we'll get through some of his. First one he was
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asking about
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the orange whip wedge he just got it and he asked how do you practice it can
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you use
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it for distance wedges as well as finesse. I'm definitely a bigger fan of using
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it for
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finesse and the way I like to use it I know a couple coaches that use it polar
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opposites
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but the way I like to use it is having my students try to make the swing where
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the wedge does
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not move so there's basically no downswing loading. I know of a coach who's
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really good
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at getting more of the speed out into the handle but the real benefit and what
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I like
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about that orange whip wedge is making sure that I'm not getting any loading of
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the shaft
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in transition so feeling really almost castee and like the arms dropping and
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the weight
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of the club head is starting the downswing. We know that that's not really the
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case there's
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definitely some lower body movement but it's a feeling of more the weight out
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of the club
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and when you use the wedge it won't bend and flex very much. Second I don't
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like it as
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well for distance wedges maybe up to about 50 yards but when you start getting
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past there
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if you do have any amount of motorcycle and shaft lean it'll tend or motorcycle
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and more
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of a power sequence it does tend to hit the ball off to the right so I like it
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a lot more
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for around the greens but I know that we're having stand out late here sometime
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this spring
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so I'll pick his brain about how he uses it for distance wedges because he's
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the he's
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the king of that training tool. Okay his second question do I prefer low flight
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ed wedges with
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no divot? So there's two parts to this question. I do prefer low flighted wed
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ges the tour average
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you know being somewhere around 30 degrees of launch angle when I watch the
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guys close
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up you don't really see anyone deviating from that pattern. Now the key there
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or the second
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part of the question was where you take no divot that is entirely grass
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dependent. I've
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seen different events where they're taking fairly significant divots and other
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events
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where the grass is barely moved so it really depends on the saturation the root
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structure.
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I like to get a certain baseline at your home course but the key there is wed
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ges are steep
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but they have a low point that's relatively close to the ground so it's steep
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and it has
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a fair amount of overtaking or the club passing on the way through compared to
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the full swing
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and that's part of how you can be steep and not really gouge the ground but the
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size of
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the divot is going to depend a fair amount on the third conditions. He asked
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let's see
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you one more thread and then we'll jump back. Where is my main power source so
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how can I
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tell in the book I talk about one of the areas you know being or one way being
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where are
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you sore. I just did a video this past week where I showed kind of one where I
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showed
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the one of the key differences in the different power sources. First I categor
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ize a more lower
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body core or we more upper body and that can be determined by what's going on
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in here.
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Once you've figured out whether your upper body or more core lower body it gets
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a little
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bit trickier to try and identify exactly whether you're doing it more from the
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right
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side or more from the left side or right arm or left arm and that's where I
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would go to
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more of the soreness but he mentioned that he feels it more in his lower back
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and that
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could be more of a transition or more of an impact kind of compensation as
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opposed to
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more of a creating speed creating power phenomena. So I would start with that
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kind
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of corner zone but basically the blend of transition to release will reveal a
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lot and
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then you you can do strategies like if you're more upper body dominant and you
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did more
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of a lead arm only or a trail arm only which one feels the most similar that
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will give
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you an idea as far as right first left. If you exaggerated more weight forward
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weight
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back you could break down the lower body a little bit that way but it's more of
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an art
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than a true science to figure out your exact power sources that way. Actually
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we'll do
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one more because he has a real quick one. How is lifting a power source? So I
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talk about
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chopped verse lift or crunched verse extend while those different patterns. So
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lifting
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is a power source just the same way a chop would be. So imagine I have a
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medicine ball
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or a cable machine and I was going to pull a medicine ball or cable down that
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way. That
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would be creating force in that direction. Now imagine that I had a cable down
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there
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and now I was going to pull that cable or throw a ball a medicine ball up that
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way.
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That would be more of a lift pattern and that's what you'll tend to see with
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the with
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more of the tour swing. So with more of the driver in the long irons you'll
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tend to see
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more of a pattern where the energy in those arms are lifting up off the body
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which complements
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the body rotation on the way through and then more in the wedges and the short
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irons you'll
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see more of that chop pattern which complements more of a drifting less kind of
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bracing and
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powered generation from the from the corn body. Okay let's get back to some of
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these
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questions. Still didn't get which bicep from Mike so I got to move on. Golf
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Junkie asked
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are the Zora loops initiated from a closed upper body should it feel as if the
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forearms
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are rolling over. I understand that they are not but it might feel that they
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are. Yes the
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Zora loop is initiated basically at transition so your upper body is probably
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90 degrees
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closed at that point and what I like to what a lot of golfers describe the feel
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as is as
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those arms roll over they're also extending and most golfers feel it as more of
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this extension
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not so much of a rolling over. The danger of if it feels too much like rolling
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over is
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down at the bottom you can get kind of this steep look and the club going that
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way where
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if you have it more of the rotation where the club is going out the hands will
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work a little
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bit more left but the club will finish down the line and you'll finish with the
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club more
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in line with your forearms instead of that kind of quick flip look on the
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follow through.
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Jason asked release question one of my favorite topics good question for one
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who has mobility
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limitations and struggles to get into right lateral bend what other perhaps
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earlier shallowing
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movements are essentially keep the path from going too far left so if you there
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's a there's
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a later question to all kind of combo that one to one of Fred's he was asking
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about what
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do you do with older golfers because once you get over the age of about 60 you
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lose about
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two thirds of your right lateral bend so you won't see too many Justin Johnson
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's out on
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the senior tour it's just a phenomenon of what happens to the spine well I I
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coach I tell most
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of my senior golfers to do some stretching and try to get as much from the hips
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as you
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can because there's no real reason you need to lose a lot of the hip mobility
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if you can't
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do the spine but let's for argument sake say that we've lost that ability to
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really right
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lateral bend either from the hips or from the spot so now since this isn't
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going to get
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down towards the ground I'm going to have to use my arms a little bit earlier
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so straving
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the arms is a shallower and the the danger is that that will cause the low
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point to move
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backward unless I drift a little bit more forward so what I usually coach is if
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you're
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going to do more of an upper body cast pattern I focus a lot on upper body
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stability and
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I focus more on kind of the rhythm of when the arms extend instead of the
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absolute positions
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I also still focus and get a lot of success working on the motorcycle movement
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and it's
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more of a kind of getting those arms to extend out in front as opposed to less
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of that like
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body driven white movement it's more just the arm direction white movement you
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'll tend
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to have a little bit steeper angle of attack that way so for the longer clubs
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you may have
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to make some conversations potentially a little bit more loft playing a shorter
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club some
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setup changes but I typically what if you've lost lateral bend a cast pattern
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does help
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in terms of shallowing things out and making sure that you're not spinning too
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much from
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your upper body can help make sure it showers it out both of those would help
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prevent the
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path from getting too far left Jason also said the book is fantastic by the way
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thank
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you very much I really appreciate the feedback some of it's been a little
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overwhelming the
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way you empower the readers to deco the pattern and the stuffs on steep and
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shallows is gold
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well thank you very much I you know I had a lesson this week and the gentleman
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said that
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you know he doesn't hit every shot perfectly but it's fun because he's at least
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able to
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move the needle as he described it or basically he can kind of self correct if
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he starts having
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some problems so that's the that's what I think is the ultimate goal right no
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one ever
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has their swing perfect forever the goal is that you learn the tools to be able
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to course
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correct and self-correct when it gets off because I promise if you think you
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have it today by next
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week something will have crept in and you better have the strategy to be able
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to handle it Patrick
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asked can you explain how to shallow the arms while the hand path works down
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mine tend to work
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out too much so typically working through this question so typically when the
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hands move out
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the club will shallow unless it goes more everything together so let's say that
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my interpretation of
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the question is that everything is going out together so the club's not shall
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owing what's typically
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happening there is that more of the that transition move is happening more from
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that left shoulder
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kind of spinning as opposed to a feeling getting more of a little bit of
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stretch so if I if I face
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this way what you'll see is as my lower body starts can you see how that
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shoulder blade gets
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stretched a bit so the shoulder is not following the rib cage movement for the
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initial portion of
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the downswing allowing the arms to have some softness and let them kind of
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shallow a bit
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a bit because again typically when the hands work out if it's purely from the
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arms perspective
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that's the force that causes it to shallow but if the hands work out because of
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the body or the
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left shoulder kind of pulling back that will cause it to steepen okay let's get
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back to a few of these
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email questions so Fred asked if the kinematic sequence isn't the only way what
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other successful
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patterns do you see so in the last class he was asking about or in the last
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youtube live he was
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asking about what kinematic like what's the stock tour swing kinematic sequence
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pattern and
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I with the kinematic sequence you will typically see a very consistent
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transition sequence of
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pelvis um pelvis trunk arm club but when you start working at looking at the pe
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aking order
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you'll typically see the lower body go first but or peak first but not always
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sometimes it has
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more of a plateau sometimes it's later um it really depends on swing styles
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body capabilities release
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patterns whether you prioritize distance whether you prioritize accuracy so the
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transition I would
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say you know what what everybody said the kinematics sequence shows absolutely
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correct what everyone's
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talked from the ground up all that stuff is well and true if you're talking
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about the downswing
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peaking order I've just seen way too many examples of really good ball strikers
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like you know elite
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level toward ball strikers who don't have a perfect uh one two three four kinem
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atic sequence oftentimes
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it's one three two four uh but there are some really good ball strikers who
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where it's more
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stacked up and the time delay between one two three are is almost nothing so um
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I would say
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if you're use the kinematic sequence and more as a reference for guiding what
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you want to work on
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in the gym like where the potential injury points are where the potential
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weaknesses or
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00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:26.150
inhibitions are and then use that as more of a long-term focus of what to work
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on rehab wise
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00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:32.410
strength wise as opposed to um the downswing peaking port order being an
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absolute guide of
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what it takes to be consistent uh so I um I kind of already answered his last
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question about golfers
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who can't left tilt during stiff uh due to stiffness but he did ask about what
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about early
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00:38:47.600 --> 00:38:53.590
extension um I basically okay so if I can't left tilt or sorry if I can't right
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tilt then
703
00:38:54.560 --> 00:39:01.670
maybe I can early extend in order to create um some of the shallowness well um
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00:39:01.670 --> 00:39:02.960
I'm not a big fan
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of coaching early extension at any level if you're going if you need to be
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taller to be shallower
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than I would recommend starting taller to begin with for my older golfers um I
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00:39:12.100 --> 00:39:13.760
think that the
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00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:21.440
bigger combination is getting more of a um cast pattern so getting that arm to
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straighten a
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little bit sooner and timing that with the right amount of lunge and the right
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amount of upper body
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position so I do a lot of upper body location training making sure that um they
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're pretty accurate
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00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.680
with where that is and I do a lot of rhythm training and I still do a lot of
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the motorcycle training
717
00:39:40.240 --> 00:39:46.600
it's just a little bit more arm driven instead of um more body driven okay uh
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00:39:46.600 --> 00:39:49.840
question from Joseph
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00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:55.350
when uh he's working on the motorcycle he says when I kind of do it too quickly
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00:39:55.350 --> 00:39:58.560
um and so basically
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00:39:58.560 --> 00:40:03.680
what he's asking is when he's doing the motorcycle he he kind of does it really
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aggressively at the
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top and what ends up happening is it goes a little bit steep like this so he
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tends to hit more of
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kind of steep and um chunky poles um what I would say there is really monitor
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the grip pressure
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especially in that trail hand um and work a little bit more on the owner
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00:40:23.740 --> 00:40:25.680
deviation or getting the club
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00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:31.600
to shallow out um this way while you're doing it what can what can happen is if
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you just focus on
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00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:37.360
that motorcycle movement the past starts to get too steep and then you have um
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00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:38.240
some of what he
733
00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:42.490
described as toe contact you have some of these predictable mispatterns um that
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00:40:42.490 --> 00:40:43.440
happen from more
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00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:49.250
of a steepness not from a motorcycle thing uh he asks when does the lead wrist
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00:40:49.250 --> 00:40:50.640
go into supination
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00:40:50.640 --> 00:40:56.260
um so on the 3d graphs the lead wrist will start going into supination right
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00:40:56.260 --> 00:40:57.760
around shaft 45 so
739
00:40:57.760 --> 00:41:03.700
kind of right about here is where the wrist starts to supinate and the neat
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00:41:03.700 --> 00:41:06.240
thing is it's as it's
741
00:41:06.240 --> 00:41:10.780
going in transition so through here it's pronating so that I can start sup
742
00:41:10.780 --> 00:41:12.240
inating without having the
743
00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:17.120
club follow it initially so it kind of ramps up it's not really an explosive
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00:41:17.120 --> 00:41:18.800
the explosive action
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00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:23.930
but it starts right about here and it'll end um basically at the end of the
746
00:41:23.930 --> 00:41:25.040
release roughly shaft
747
00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:31.900
parallel to the ground uh here's the last question um how does the trail wrist
748
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go into extension um
749
00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:39.200
from p2 to the top of the swing and make it more vertical not behind um well
750
00:41:39.200 --> 00:41:40.800
when we look at how
751
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:47.320
the wrists are on the club um that trail wrist is not truly on the side of the
752
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.320
club it's a little
753
00:41:48.320 --> 00:41:53.110
bit more on top so when I extend the wrist especially if I add radial deviation
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00:41:53.110 --> 00:41:54.640
at the same time
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00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:59.520
that will tend to move the club more up in line with the forearm as opposed to
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00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:01.520
around this way to
757
00:42:01.520 --> 00:42:07.530
get it more around this way you'll see in addition to extension I also had to
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00:42:07.530 --> 00:42:08.960
do a fair amount of
759
00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:17.120
rotation right so working on that trail wrist to um extend wall radial dev
760
00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:19.920
iating um will help make
761
00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:25.920
it more uh vertical as opposed to extension and letting that shoulder rotate or
762
00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:27.120
letting that lead
763
00:42:27.120 --> 00:42:32.390
arm come away too much which would make it a little bit more horizontally um
764
00:42:32.390 --> 00:42:34.080
the key there is the if
765
00:42:34.080 --> 00:42:38.970
you get it more vertical so if you're across the line I'll exaggerate if I'm
766
00:42:38.970 --> 00:42:40.560
really across the line
767
00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:44.830
then I really have to shallow um the more that I get it in that horizontal
768
00:42:44.830 --> 00:42:46.000
position more like a
769
00:42:46.000 --> 00:42:52.420
john rom I don't have to shallow quite as um aggressively or as long so just
770
00:42:52.420 --> 00:42:54.480
making sure that
771
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:59.650
you're utilizing radial deviation um while you're going into extension because
772
00:42:59.650 --> 00:43:00.400
those are kind of
773
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.960
couple motions and making sure that it's not um rotating too much uh supination
774
00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:08.400
will prevent it
775
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:17.520
from getting um too flat at the top or too flat or more around you okay um come
776
00:43:17.520 --> 00:43:18.880
back to that when
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00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:24.320
I see another live question Craig where should you where do I like to see the
778
00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:25.680
club face at P2
779
00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:32.230
and at P6 should it match the spine angle or both at both positions um I'm a
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00:43:32.230 --> 00:43:36.560
lot uh as far as P2 goes
781
00:43:36.560 --> 00:43:43.710
I'm definitely like I look at the ranges and where it is at P2 is um you can be
782
00:43:43.710 --> 00:43:45.120
anywhere from let's
783
00:43:45.120 --> 00:43:49.620
say vertical to spine angle and I guess I would say that's pretty close to the
784
00:43:49.620 --> 00:43:51.680
same at P6 um anywhere
785
00:43:51.680 --> 00:43:55.450
from vertical to spine angle the the key thing is understanding the
786
00:43:55.450 --> 00:43:57.280
relationship of okay the more
787
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:02.070
closed it is the more that I could um body rotate and wipe so the more I could
788
00:44:02.070 --> 00:44:03.600
potentially take the
789
00:44:03.600 --> 00:44:09.100
hands out of it um the the more vertical it is the more I'm still going to have
790
00:44:09.100 --> 00:44:10.080
to continue
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00:44:10.080 --> 00:44:14.670
that motorcycle late and some guys especially if you have a lot of tension if
792
00:44:14.670 --> 00:44:16.400
you create a lot of
793
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:21.600
arm tension and really grip the club down at the bottom it's very hard to have
794
00:44:21.600 --> 00:44:22.960
the continued rotation
795
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.350
so if you know that you have a constitution where you're more you're really
796
00:44:27.350 --> 00:44:28.640
going to hold on
797
00:44:28.640 --> 00:44:33.440
on the way through and tighten those arms then I would probably try to get it a
798
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:34.400
little bit more
799
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:42.800
close to spine angle um if you have some softness in your arms you can you have
800
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:43.440
a little bit more
801
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:48.240
flexibility you can do either or now that being said with if we're now talking
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00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:49.520
short irons wedges
803
00:44:49.520 --> 00:44:54.080
I would like to see it closer to toe vertical if you're looking at more driver
804
00:44:54.080 --> 00:44:54.800
long irons I would
805
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.800
like to see it closer to the spine angle but it's more um matching relative
806
00:44:59.800 --> 00:45:01.280
pieces rather than an
807
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:08.210
absolute look that you're trying to train okay last one um but quick one on
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00:45:08.210 --> 00:45:09.520
here is there an
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00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:13.920
archive um I believe that they're linked on youtube um for those on the site I
810
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:16.000
am going to um copy
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them over and create a playlist of all the archived uh Q&As so that way you can
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00:45:21.040 --> 00:45:22.080
check out all the ones
813
00:45:22.080 --> 00:45:27.590
that I've done in the past um okay uh Jim had a last minute question he emailed
814
00:45:27.590 --> 00:45:29.360
right before um
815
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:33.390
about the right arm what does the right arm do in the backswing in the down
816
00:45:33.390 --> 00:45:34.640
swing specifically
817
00:45:34.640 --> 00:45:39.620
the right wrist so um he he had some really good success working on the
818
00:45:39.620 --> 00:45:41.280
motorcycle and the wipe
819
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:45.950
combo um but then he was getting a little bit of a steep steeper mispattern so
820
00:45:45.950 --> 00:45:47.040
we started to try
821
00:45:47.040 --> 00:45:51.230
to introduce some older deviation and in getting that older deviation we were
822
00:45:51.230 --> 00:45:52.400
losing what's going
823
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:58.210
on at the the trail wrist um so in that last question I kind of described some
824
00:45:58.210 --> 00:45:59.280
of what's going on
825
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:04.610
where basically that right wrist is going to um extend and radial deviate and
826
00:46:04.610 --> 00:46:05.600
it'll feel like it
827
00:46:05.600 --> 00:46:11.100
goes into some pronation as well um as long as the shoulder is then externally
828
00:46:11.100 --> 00:46:12.320
rotated that combo
829
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:19.070
doesn't put it across the line where if I um don't it radial deviate and if I
830
00:46:19.070 --> 00:46:20.720
supinate but then I
831
00:46:20.720 --> 00:46:24.710
really let my elbow go that's actually the more common pattern for getting
832
00:46:24.710 --> 00:46:26.320
across the line so
833
00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:32.400
I'm rotated kind of like that with some good uh radial deviation then down
834
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:33.280
through impact
835
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:39.750
down at the bottom is the trickier zone um through early part of transition or
836
00:46:39.750 --> 00:46:41.040
sorry mid kind of
837
00:46:41.040 --> 00:46:47.210
late transition before you get into the release it's going to um increase that
838
00:46:47.210 --> 00:46:49.040
extension uh radial
839
00:46:49.040 --> 00:46:53.700
deviation and extension so it's gonna have that little white look and then in
840
00:46:53.700 --> 00:46:55.440
order to not bottom
841
00:46:55.440 --> 00:47:00.450
out and lose it uh lose that extension and basically lose your low point
842
00:47:00.450 --> 00:47:02.800
control um one of the big
843
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:08.500
keys is making sure that the extension of the wrist is maintained it feels like
844
00:47:08.500 --> 00:47:09.440
it's maintained
845
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:14.560
all the way through impact um but in practicality what'll happen is with the
846
00:47:14.560 --> 00:47:16.400
speed and the bracing
847
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:21.520
you'll lose that risk through impact but what I find is golfers trying to lose
848
00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:22.800
that wrist tend
849
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:26.400
to have low point control issues where golfers trying to maintain that
850
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.240
extension and have more
851
00:47:28.240 --> 00:47:34.150
of the rotation of the arm as opposed to more of kind of an attempt to hold it
852
00:47:34.150 --> 00:47:35.360
off like this
853
00:47:35.360 --> 00:47:39.600
tend to have better low point control it can get the low point forward with a
854
00:47:39.600 --> 00:47:40.240
little bit more
855
00:47:40.240 --> 00:47:46.000
um shallower contact so they can get shaft lean without a steep angle of attack
856
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:47.280
which is uh one of
857
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:54.390
the key different traders there for um you know good right arm mechanics okay
858
00:47:54.390 --> 00:47:56.800
uh so we we just
859
00:47:56.800 --> 00:48:00.550
crossed kind of the 45 minute zone that's kind of where I like to cap these so
860
00:48:00.550 --> 00:48:01.840
they're not too long
861
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:06.850
enjoy the rest of march of madness and the master is coming up in two weeks is
862
00:48:06.850 --> 00:48:08.080
a fun time for sports
863
00:48:08.080 --> 00:48:13.760
if you have any questions then that either my comments here triggered or that
864
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:15.440
somehow I missed
865
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:21.040
and I didn't answer um please shoot me an email at support@golfsmartacademy.com
866
00:48:21.040 --> 00:48:29.090
if you haven't checked it out this is the the book that um a couple of the
867
00:48:29.090 --> 00:48:30.320
comments were referencing
868
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:37.660
published in the fall um covers a lot of the overview of how I think my system
869
00:48:37.660 --> 00:48:38.800
works together
870
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.840
and then if you're looking for more details on any of the movements or the
871
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:43.920
drills head over to
872
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:49.140
golfsmartacademy.com um please hopefully share this with your friends and uh
873
00:48:49.140 --> 00:48:50.080
yeah if you have any
874
00:48:50.080 --> 00:48:53.270
questions shoot them to me I enjoy doing these and we'll uh we'll get one
875
00:48:53.270 --> 00:48:54.560
scheduled here in the new
876
00:48:54.560 --> 00:49:05.370
future so thanks again for tuning in and enjoy your transition into the golf
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00:49:05.370 --> 00:49:06.480
season
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