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Keeping the Lead Arm Straight? - Member Question

The left arm is often thought of the radius of the swing, but since the swing is not a pure circle, it might make sense to change the radius. Keeping the left arm completely straight can also limit some of the powerful movements of the body during transition. The two times keeping the lead arm straight during the swing can be helpful is during the takeaway and after impact into the finish. 

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The left arm is often thought of the radius of the swing, but since the swing is not a pure circle, it might make sense to change the radius. Keeping the left arm completely straight can also limit some of the powerful movements of the body during transition. The two times keeping the lead arm straight during the swing can be helpful is during the takeaway and after impact into the finish. 

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Video Transcript
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In this golf smart insight, we're going to take a look at the member question,

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00:00:03.990 --> 00:00:04.260
keeping

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the left arm straight throughout the whole swing.

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00:00:06.760 --> 00:00:10.950
So I know that it's a commonly discussed swing thought of trying to keep that

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00:00:10.950 --> 00:00:11.740
left arm straight

6
00:00:11.740 --> 00:00:13.040
in the entire swing.

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In this video, I'm going to give you some of the numbers of what 3D actually

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00:00:16.550 --> 00:00:17.280
shows and

9
00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:21.770
talk to you about when I think it's helpful to try to keep it straight and when

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00:00:21.770 --> 00:00:22.360
it might

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be problematic to try to keep it straight.

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00:00:25.200 --> 00:00:30.200
So the tour average, or if you look at any of these arm bend graphs, you'll see

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that

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nobody keeps it perfectly straight.

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The closest that I have bends the arm about 10 degrees during the backswing and

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then it

17
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straightens a bit in transition and then bends a little bit, but stays within

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kind of like

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a 10 degree window.

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The tour average is compared to where they are at setup.

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They're going to be bent, let's say, 5 to 8 degrees more at impact, but the arm

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is going

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to bend that left arm, that lead arm is going to bend about 30 degrees up

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towards the top

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of the swing.

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Now it doesn't often look that way because there's also going to be some

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rotation.

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So when you get towards the top of the swing, the arm is bent, but there's been

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some shoulder

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rotation, so now you're looking more kind of in the plane of the bend.

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So it looks fairly straight as opposed to if it stayed perfectly in plane with

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the camera

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kind of like this instead of rotating, then you would be able to see more of

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the bend.

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But because there's some rotation, you won't see nearly as much of the bend.

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But it does tend to soften as it gets towards the top of the swing.

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So when are the times, if we know that it doesn't stay perfectly straight, when

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are the

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key times to try to actually keep it straight?

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The two or three major times that I think are helpful for training, trying to

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keep that

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left arm straight, would be during takeaway, because most tour golfers actually

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increase

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their, the straightness of their arms during takeaway.

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So just between that phase there, that helps them power it more with the core

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and make

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more of kind of a one piece move.

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But then as you go to set, I actually think trying to keep that right arm to

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have a little

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bit width is going to be more helpful to trying to keep the left arm straight.

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What tends to happen when golfers try to keep the left arm straight up towards

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the

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top of the swing is they tend to get a little bit more of this look where they

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bend that

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right arm and bring it around.

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And the left arm just kind of comes very close across their chest.

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As opposed to having some of that rotation and keeping the hands a little bit

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more out

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in front, I think trying to keep that right arm straight helps create better

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width at

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the top rather than the left arm.

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The time where I see a huge problem with trying to keep the left arm straight

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is in transition.

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And so many golfers that try to keep that left arm straight through transition

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will actually

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end up doing more of, more of a cast pattern and they'll tend to kind of steep

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en the arms

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a little bit more like that.

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That's a very effective lat or shoulder pull which creates some speed in the

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handle but

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it's more of a vertical motion where what I tend to like to see is in

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transition if you're

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going to use more of your lower body against the ground, you're going to use

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more of your

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core to pull through your arms, that's going to tend to cause a little bit more

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of this

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lag and you're going to see those shoulders and the elbows actually narrow a

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bit or bend.

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But then one of the last places where it's really helpful to try to keep the

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arm straight

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is not an impact but through past follow through.

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So if you take a look at many tour golfers, especially when they're hitting

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drivers, you'll

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tend to see that the arms stay straight all the way until the club is well past

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here.

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I see amateurs frequently when they're trying to keep the arm straight, they

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just worry about

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it trying to stay straight through there and then it bends very quickly kind of

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like this.

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But when you start to add speed to that, it'll start moving earlier and earlier

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or closer

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and closer to impact.

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So if you're trying to keep that arm straight through impact, which we know

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that it's not

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actually going to be straight, I already told you it's going to be a little bit

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more bent.

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But the key is that it's actually straightening.

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And in order to get it to straighten long enough, it's helpful to do little

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shots where you

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train it staying straight as you kind of turn that corner there.

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If you can keep it or get it to stay straight during that phase there, then you

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're going

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to have a good wide look at impact, you're going to avoid that look of the

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chicken wing.

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So quick recap.

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The places where it's helpful are in takeaway, possibly at the top of the swing

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, definitely

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not during transition.

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And then again, helpful during the release and even past the release for trying

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to keep

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that arm straight.

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But if you're trying to keep that arm straight, the entire swing, I think is

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probably going

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to do more harm than good, especially during transition.

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Keeping the Lead Arm Straight? - Member Question

The left arm is often thought of the radius of the swing, but since the swing is not a pure circle, it might make sense to change the radius. Keeping the left arm completely straight can also limit some of the powerful movements of the body during transition. The two times keeping the lead arm straight during the swing can be helpful is during the takeaway and after impact into the finish. 

Show more

The left arm is often thought of the radius of the swing, but since the swing is not a pure circle, it might make sense to change the radius. Keeping the left arm completely straight can also limit some of the powerful movements of the body during transition. The two times keeping the lead arm straight during the swing can be helpful is during the takeaway and after impact into the finish. 

Hide
Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.990
In this golf smart insight, we're going to take a look at the member question,

2
00:00:03.990 --> 00:00:04.260
keeping

3
00:00:04.260 --> 00:00:06.760
the left arm straight throughout the whole swing.

4
00:00:06.760 --> 00:00:10.950
So I know that it's a commonly discussed swing thought of trying to keep that

5
00:00:10.950 --> 00:00:11.740
left arm straight

6
00:00:11.740 --> 00:00:13.040
in the entire swing.

7
00:00:13.040 --> 00:00:16.550
In this video, I'm going to give you some of the numbers of what 3D actually

8
00:00:16.550 --> 00:00:17.280
shows and

9
00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:21.770
talk to you about when I think it's helpful to try to keep it straight and when

10
00:00:21.770 --> 00:00:22.360
it might

11
00:00:22.360 --> 00:00:25.200
be problematic to try to keep it straight.

12
00:00:25.200 --> 00:00:30.200
So the tour average, or if you look at any of these arm bend graphs, you'll see

13
00:00:30.200 --> 00:00:30.640
that

14
00:00:30.640 --> 00:00:32.600
nobody keeps it perfectly straight.

15
00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:38.410
The closest that I have bends the arm about 10 degrees during the backswing and

16
00:00:38.410 --> 00:00:40.200
then it

17
00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.290
straightens a bit in transition and then bends a little bit, but stays within

18
00:00:43.290 --> 00:00:43.920
kind of like

19
00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:45.440
a 10 degree window.

20
00:00:45.440 --> 00:00:49.200
The tour average is compared to where they are at setup.

21
00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:53.970
They're going to be bent, let's say, 5 to 8 degrees more at impact, but the arm

22
00:00:53.970 --> 00:00:54.320
is going

23
00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.890
to bend that left arm, that lead arm is going to bend about 30 degrees up

24
00:00:58.890 --> 00:00:59.800
towards the top

25
00:00:59.800 --> 00:01:01.040
of the swing.

26
00:01:01.040 --> 00:01:05.500
Now it doesn't often look that way because there's also going to be some

27
00:01:05.500 --> 00:01:06.440
rotation.

28
00:01:06.440 --> 00:01:09.430
So when you get towards the top of the swing, the arm is bent, but there's been

29
00:01:09.430 --> 00:01:10.080
some shoulder

30
00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:15.040
rotation, so now you're looking more kind of in the plane of the bend.

31
00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:20.790
So it looks fairly straight as opposed to if it stayed perfectly in plane with

32
00:01:20.790 --> 00:01:21.640
the camera

33
00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:25.080
kind of like this instead of rotating, then you would be able to see more of

34
00:01:25.080 --> 00:01:25.600
the bend.

35
00:01:25.600 --> 00:01:31.000
But because there's some rotation, you won't see nearly as much of the bend.

36
00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.240
But it does tend to soften as it gets towards the top of the swing.

37
00:01:34.240 --> 00:01:39.030
So when are the times, if we know that it doesn't stay perfectly straight, when

38
00:01:39.030 --> 00:01:39.420
are the

39
00:01:39.420 --> 00:01:43.920
key times to try to actually keep it straight?

40
00:01:43.920 --> 00:01:49.320
The two or three major times that I think are helpful for training, trying to

41
00:01:49.320 --> 00:01:49.920
keep that

42
00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:56.250
left arm straight, would be during takeaway, because most tour golfers actually

43
00:01:56.250 --> 00:01:57.000
increase

44
00:01:57.000 --> 00:02:00.880
their, the straightness of their arms during takeaway.

45
00:02:00.880 --> 00:02:05.150
So just between that phase there, that helps them power it more with the core

46
00:02:05.150 --> 00:02:05.680
and make

47
00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.400
more of kind of a one piece move.

48
00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:12.590
But then as you go to set, I actually think trying to keep that right arm to

49
00:02:12.590 --> 00:02:13.200
have a little

50
00:02:13.200 --> 00:02:17.000
bit width is going to be more helpful to trying to keep the left arm straight.

51
00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.830
What tends to happen when golfers try to keep the left arm straight up towards

52
00:02:19.830 --> 00:02:19.900
the

53
00:02:19.900 --> 00:02:23.990
top of the swing is they tend to get a little bit more of this look where they

54
00:02:23.990 --> 00:02:24.640
bend that

55
00:02:24.640 --> 00:02:26.080
right arm and bring it around.

56
00:02:26.080 --> 00:02:30.360
And the left arm just kind of comes very close across their chest.

57
00:02:30.360 --> 00:02:34.350
As opposed to having some of that rotation and keeping the hands a little bit

58
00:02:34.350 --> 00:02:34.760
more out

59
00:02:34.760 --> 00:02:38.750
in front, I think trying to keep that right arm straight helps create better

60
00:02:38.750 --> 00:02:39.120
width at

61
00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:41.440
the top rather than the left arm.

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00:02:41.440 --> 00:02:45.190
The time where I see a huge problem with trying to keep the left arm straight

63
00:02:45.190 --> 00:02:46.720
is in transition.

64
00:02:46.720 --> 00:02:52.740
And so many golfers that try to keep that left arm straight through transition

65
00:02:52.740 --> 00:02:53.580
will actually

66
00:02:53.580 --> 00:02:58.340
end up doing more of, more of a cast pattern and they'll tend to kind of steep

67
00:02:58.340 --> 00:02:59.060
en the arms

68
00:02:59.060 --> 00:03:02.140
a little bit more like that.

69
00:03:02.140 --> 00:03:06.970
That's a very effective lat or shoulder pull which creates some speed in the

70
00:03:06.970 --> 00:03:07.740
handle but

71
00:03:07.740 --> 00:03:12.090
it's more of a vertical motion where what I tend to like to see is in

72
00:03:12.090 --> 00:03:13.300
transition if you're

73
00:03:13.300 --> 00:03:16.740
going to use more of your lower body against the ground, you're going to use

74
00:03:16.740 --> 00:03:17.380
more of your

75
00:03:17.380 --> 00:03:21.100
core to pull through your arms, that's going to tend to cause a little bit more

76
00:03:21.100 --> 00:03:21.600
of this

77
00:03:21.600 --> 00:03:26.720
lag and you're going to see those shoulders and the elbows actually narrow a

78
00:03:26.720 --> 00:03:27.700
bit or bend.

79
00:03:27.700 --> 00:03:31.140
But then one of the last places where it's really helpful to try to keep the

80
00:03:31.140 --> 00:03:31.860
arm straight

81
00:03:31.860 --> 00:03:36.140
is not an impact but through past follow through.

82
00:03:36.140 --> 00:03:40.900
So if you take a look at many tour golfers, especially when they're hitting

83
00:03:40.900 --> 00:03:41.660
drivers, you'll

84
00:03:41.660 --> 00:03:46.870
tend to see that the arms stay straight all the way until the club is well past

85
00:03:46.870 --> 00:03:47.540
here.

86
00:03:47.540 --> 00:03:51.090
I see amateurs frequently when they're trying to keep the arm straight, they

87
00:03:51.090 --> 00:03:51.940
just worry about

88
00:03:51.940 --> 00:03:56.140
it trying to stay straight through there and then it bends very quickly kind of

89
00:03:56.140 --> 00:03:56.900
like this.

90
00:03:56.900 --> 00:04:01.670
But when you start to add speed to that, it'll start moving earlier and earlier

91
00:04:01.670 --> 00:04:02.260
or closer

92
00:04:02.260 --> 00:04:04.100
and closer to impact.

93
00:04:04.100 --> 00:04:09.290
So if you're trying to keep that arm straight through impact, which we know

94
00:04:09.290 --> 00:04:10.300
that it's not

95
00:04:10.300 --> 00:04:13.200
actually going to be straight, I already told you it's going to be a little bit

96
00:04:13.200 --> 00:04:14.220
more bent.

97
00:04:14.220 --> 00:04:18.100
But the key is that it's actually straightening.

98
00:04:18.100 --> 00:04:22.740
And in order to get it to straighten long enough, it's helpful to do little

99
00:04:22.740 --> 00:04:23.700
shots where you

100
00:04:23.700 --> 00:04:29.300
train it staying straight as you kind of turn that corner there.

101
00:04:29.300 --> 00:04:34.420
If you can keep it or get it to stay straight during that phase there, then you

102
00:04:34.420 --> 00:04:35.140
're going

103
00:04:35.140 --> 00:04:39.600
to have a good wide look at impact, you're going to avoid that look of the

104
00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:40.700
chicken wing.

105
00:04:40.700 --> 00:04:42.020
So quick recap.

106
00:04:42.020 --> 00:04:47.000
The places where it's helpful are in takeaway, possibly at the top of the swing

107
00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:47.980
, definitely

108
00:04:47.980 --> 00:04:49.780
not during transition.

109
00:04:49.780 --> 00:04:54.930
And then again, helpful during the release and even past the release for trying

110
00:04:54.930 --> 00:04:55.460
to keep

111
00:04:55.460 --> 00:04:56.580
that arm straight.

112
00:04:56.580 --> 00:04:59.410
But if you're trying to keep that arm straight, the entire swing, I think is

113
00:04:59.410 --> 00:05:00.020
probably going

114
00:05:00.020 --> 00:05:03.300
to do more harm than good, especially during transition.

115
00:05:05.140 --> 00:05:12.160
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