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How to Manage a Steep Arms Pattern in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the key adjustments needed to play with steep arms effectively
  • Understand how to keep your upper body positioned correctly over the golf ball
  • Learn to create vertical power for better shot outcomes while using a steep arm pattern

In this video, learn how to effectively play with a steep arms pattern, especially when you're short on time for practice. We'll explore strategies to maintain control and consistency in your swing despite this less-than-ideal technique.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
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In this concept video, we're going to discuss how to play the steep arm pattern

2
00:00:09.350 --> 00:00:09.360
.

3
00:00:09.360 --> 00:00:14.760
So the steep arm pattern is not ideal, but if you don't have enough time to

4
00:00:14.760 --> 00:00:15.280
work on the

5
00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:20.540
pieces, like let's say I've been doing this steep arm pattern for 20 years and

6
00:00:20.540 --> 00:00:21.240
I'm going

7
00:00:21.240 --> 00:00:25.870
to play a trip in two weeks and I don't have like a good feel of shallowing the

8
00:00:25.870 --> 00:00:26.520
arms.

9
00:00:26.520 --> 00:00:31.240
Well, then I probably don't want to do anything radically different to try to

10
00:00:31.240 --> 00:00:31.720
shallow out

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the arms.

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I want to just play that steep arm pattern.

13
00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.090
So if I'm going to play that steep arm pattern, then there's a couple

14
00:00:38.090 --> 00:00:39.120
suggestions I give

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for most golfers.

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00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:47.390
First, the easiest thing to understand is the more that I create this power

17
00:00:47.390 --> 00:00:48.560
vertically,

18
00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:50.440
my body is going to shallow out.

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00:00:50.440 --> 00:00:53.520
Now I could either do that from really tilting behind, but that tends to cause

20
00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:54.120
some timing

21
00:00:54.120 --> 00:00:59.240
and low point issues, or I could do that by staying a little bit taller.

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So I'm going to stand up a little bit taller so that I can pull down and still

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have enough

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room to then get those arms straight.

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And as I'm getting the arms straight, you'll notice I let the club pass as

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opposed to kind

27
00:01:15.720 --> 00:01:18.120
of bending the arms and bringing it in like this.

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So I want to make sure that from this tall position, I'm really letting my arms

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stay

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straight and letting the wrist do a little bit more down at the bottom.

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Kind of more like that as opposed to trying to do too much with the body.

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If I am really steep with the arms, then short term trying to do too much with

33
00:01:40.520 --> 00:01:42.120
the body often

34
00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:44.840
disrupts my timing.

35
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The other piece with the steepness aspect, or with the staying tall aspect, is

36
00:01:50.030 --> 00:01:50.720
I really

37
00:01:50.720 --> 00:01:54.560
want to make sure that my upper body stays on top of the golf ball.

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It's very hard to be steep arms and be back behind the golf ball kind of like

39
00:01:59.230 --> 00:01:59.860
this.

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And that's part of the reason why the steep arm pattern doesn't tend to work as

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well with

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the driver.

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So I'm going to not only stay tall, but I'm also going to stay a little bit

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more on my

45
00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:12.720
front foot.

46
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This will help get the solid contact.

47
00:02:16.480 --> 00:02:23.560
So get the low point ahead of the golf ball without having to overly rotate my

48
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body.

49
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Because what will usually happen is if I have a steep arm pattern kind of like

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this, then

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the last thing my body will want to do is get wide open because I'd have a

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really hard

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time squaring it up.

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So I'm going to be tall and I'm going to be on top.

55
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Those are the two kind of set up and pivot ideas that compliment the steep arm

56
00:02:41.450 --> 00:02:42.120
pattern.

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From a rhythm perspective, I have to be really careful not to swing out of my

58
00:02:46.690 --> 00:02:47.420
shoes.

59
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I have to be really careful not to try to ratchet things up.

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Oftentimes when I have more of this shallow body, steeper arm pattern, it's

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more timing

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sensitive.

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I'm also going to have a lot more trouble hitting kind of flighted shots or

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easy tempo,

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like three quarter swings.

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I want to kind of stick with around the same tempo for most of my shots as best

67
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I can.

68
00:03:14.160 --> 00:03:21.840
So because if I swing hard, what will usually happen is I pull harder, I lose

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the timing

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of when my body should be either lunging or standing up and I tend to get some

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called

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facing or contact issues.

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So we're going to stay tall, we're going to stay on top of the ball and we're

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not going

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to swing hard.

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Ball flight wise, everyone always asks is it better to hit more of a fade or a

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draw?

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That really depends on your grip and your club face alignment, but I would say

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you will

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do better playing one ball flight rather than trying to do a whole lot of shot

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shaping.

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And I would say that the better ball flight to play is one that isn't dead

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straight.

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So if I'm more on top of it, it's a little bit easier if I have the club face

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open, that

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thing's going to fade fairly, you know, a good amount.

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And if I do end up keeping my body a little bit more closed, then that's going

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to tend

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to draw a fair amount.

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So it becomes harder to have a really stable club face.

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So it's easier to have a little margin of error and make sure that I'm going to

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hit

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either a bigger fade or a bigger draw.

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Now, lastly, equipment wise, you'll tend to do better with shorter clubs and

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even a little

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bit more upright.

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So the driver is typically the most problematic pattern, which you can either

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try to resolve

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by choking up or remembering some of those other keys and making sure that you

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don't

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swing hard and that you stay pretty tall.

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So what I usually recommend is in order to play the driver, you don't want to

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get the

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ball too far forward.

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So you're going to tend to hit the ball a little bit lower.

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It might be a little bit spinnier coming off, but that'll make it closer to

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your iron pattern

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so you don't have to make as big a change.

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I think that varying your ball position too much is almost the same thing as

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varying the

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length of swing.

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So quick summary, tying it all together.

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If you're going to, let's say you're going on a trip and you haven't had time

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to figure

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out how to shallow out the arms and get the body a little bit more involved or

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steep,

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we're going to get a little bit taller, a little bit more on top of that left

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foot.

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So shoulders are a little bit more level.

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We're going to focus on staying within ourselves as far as our rhythm goes.

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Shot wise, we're going to make sure that we're not trying to hit it dead

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straight.

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We're going to play one curve or the other and driver position, we're

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definitely not

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going to try to kill it and we might be comfortable hitting it a little bit

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lower from being more

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on top of the ball.

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If you do that, oftentimes some of these steep arm golfers have pretty good

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short games.

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This will be a way you can manage the full swing, avoid some of those big

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numbers, keep

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it in play until you have enough time where you can work on putting some of

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these pieces

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together.

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So let's do one more difference.

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So we'll do one where I do the steep arm pattern, kind of like that, a little

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less body turn,

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little more arm pull, kept the body a little bit more tall and quiet.

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And now we'll do more of my normal, so a little bit more arm shallow, a little

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bit more body

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rotation, kind of like that.

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Tyler Ferrell is the only person in the world named to Golf Digest's list of Best Young Teachers in America AND its list of Best Golf Fitness Professionals in America.

How to Manage a Steep Arms Pattern in Your Golf Swing

After this video, you'll be able to:

  • Identify the key adjustments needed to play with steep arms effectively
  • Understand how to keep your upper body positioned correctly over the golf ball
  • Learn to create vertical power for better shot outcomes while using a steep arm pattern

In this video, learn how to effectively play with a steep arms pattern, especially when you're short on time for practice. We'll explore strategies to maintain control and consistency in your swing despite this less-than-ideal technique.

Video Transcript
WEBVTT

1
00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:09.350
In this concept video, we're going to discuss how to play the steep arm pattern

2
00:00:09.350 --> 00:00:09.360
.

3
00:00:09.360 --> 00:00:14.760
So the steep arm pattern is not ideal, but if you don't have enough time to

4
00:00:14.760 --> 00:00:15.280
work on the

5
00:00:15.280 --> 00:00:20.540
pieces, like let's say I've been doing this steep arm pattern for 20 years and

6
00:00:20.540 --> 00:00:21.240
I'm going

7
00:00:21.240 --> 00:00:25.870
to play a trip in two weeks and I don't have like a good feel of shallowing the

8
00:00:25.870 --> 00:00:26.520
arms.

9
00:00:26.520 --> 00:00:31.240
Well, then I probably don't want to do anything radically different to try to

10
00:00:31.240 --> 00:00:31.720
shallow out

11
00:00:31.720 --> 00:00:32.720
the arms.

12
00:00:32.720 --> 00:00:34.560
I want to just play that steep arm pattern.

13
00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.090
So if I'm going to play that steep arm pattern, then there's a couple

14
00:00:38.090 --> 00:00:39.120
suggestions I give

15
00:00:39.120 --> 00:00:41.240
for most golfers.

16
00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:47.390
First, the easiest thing to understand is the more that I create this power

17
00:00:47.390 --> 00:00:48.560
vertically,

18
00:00:48.560 --> 00:00:50.440
my body is going to shallow out.

19
00:00:50.440 --> 00:00:53.520
Now I could either do that from really tilting behind, but that tends to cause

20
00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:54.120
some timing

21
00:00:54.120 --> 00:00:59.240
and low point issues, or I could do that by staying a little bit taller.

22
00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:04.890
So I'm going to stand up a little bit taller so that I can pull down and still

23
00:01:04.890 --> 00:01:05.920
have enough

24
00:01:05.920 --> 00:01:08.880
room to then get those arms straight.

25
00:01:08.880 --> 00:01:14.670
And as I'm getting the arms straight, you'll notice I let the club pass as

26
00:01:14.670 --> 00:01:15.720
opposed to kind

27
00:01:15.720 --> 00:01:18.120
of bending the arms and bringing it in like this.

28
00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:23.270
So I want to make sure that from this tall position, I'm really letting my arms

29
00:01:23.270 --> 00:01:23.400
stay

30
00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:30.600
straight and letting the wrist do a little bit more down at the bottom.

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00:01:30.600 --> 00:01:35.120
Kind of more like that as opposed to trying to do too much with the body.

32
00:01:35.120 --> 00:01:40.520
If I am really steep with the arms, then short term trying to do too much with

33
00:01:40.520 --> 00:01:42.120
the body often

34
00:01:42.120 --> 00:01:44.840
disrupts my timing.

35
00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:50.030
The other piece with the steepness aspect, or with the staying tall aspect, is

36
00:01:50.030 --> 00:01:50.720
I really

37
00:01:50.720 --> 00:01:54.560
want to make sure that my upper body stays on top of the golf ball.

38
00:01:54.560 --> 00:01:59.230
It's very hard to be steep arms and be back behind the golf ball kind of like

39
00:01:59.230 --> 00:01:59.860
this.

40
00:01:59.860 --> 00:02:02.410
And that's part of the reason why the steep arm pattern doesn't tend to work as

41
00:02:02.410 --> 00:02:02.840
well with

42
00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:04.560
the driver.

43
00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:10.160
So I'm going to not only stay tall, but I'm also going to stay a little bit

44
00:02:10.160 --> 00:02:11.400
more on my

45
00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:12.720
front foot.

46
00:02:12.720 --> 00:02:16.480
This will help get the solid contact.

47
00:02:16.480 --> 00:02:23.560
So get the low point ahead of the golf ball without having to overly rotate my

48
00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:24.320
body.

49
00:02:24.320 --> 00:02:28.090
Because what will usually happen is if I have a steep arm pattern kind of like

50
00:02:28.090 --> 00:02:28.640
this, then

51
00:02:28.640 --> 00:02:32.130
the last thing my body will want to do is get wide open because I'd have a

52
00:02:32.130 --> 00:02:32.840
really hard

53
00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:34.000
time squaring it up.

54
00:02:34.000 --> 00:02:37.200
So I'm going to be tall and I'm going to be on top.

55
00:02:37.200 --> 00:02:41.450
Those are the two kind of set up and pivot ideas that compliment the steep arm

56
00:02:41.450 --> 00:02:42.120
pattern.

57
00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:46.690
From a rhythm perspective, I have to be really careful not to swing out of my

58
00:02:46.690 --> 00:02:47.420
shoes.

59
00:02:47.420 --> 00:02:51.200
I have to be really careful not to try to ratchet things up.

60
00:02:51.200 --> 00:02:57.180
Oftentimes when I have more of this shallow body, steeper arm pattern, it's

61
00:02:57.180 --> 00:02:58.240
more timing

62
00:02:58.240 --> 00:02:59.240
sensitive.

63
00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:04.840
I'm also going to have a lot more trouble hitting kind of flighted shots or

64
00:03:04.840 --> 00:03:06.040
easy tempo,

65
00:03:06.040 --> 00:03:08.120
like three quarter swings.

66
00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:13.520
I want to kind of stick with around the same tempo for most of my shots as best

67
00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:14.160
I can.

68
00:03:14.160 --> 00:03:21.840
So because if I swing hard, what will usually happen is I pull harder, I lose

69
00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:22.960
the timing

70
00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:28.360
of when my body should be either lunging or standing up and I tend to get some

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00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:28.560
called

72
00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.440
facing or contact issues.

73
00:03:30.440 --> 00:03:33.950
So we're going to stay tall, we're going to stay on top of the ball and we're

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00:03:33.950 --> 00:03:34.400
not going

75
00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:37.400
to swing hard.

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00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.390
Ball flight wise, everyone always asks is it better to hit more of a fade or a

77
00:03:40.390 --> 00:03:40.880
draw?

78
00:03:40.880 --> 00:03:45.600
That really depends on your grip and your club face alignment, but I would say

79
00:03:45.600 --> 00:03:46.080
you will

80
00:03:46.080 --> 00:03:51.680
do better playing one ball flight rather than trying to do a whole lot of shot

81
00:03:51.680 --> 00:03:52.600
shaping.

82
00:03:52.600 --> 00:03:56.530
And I would say that the better ball flight to play is one that isn't dead

83
00:03:56.530 --> 00:03:57.360
straight.

84
00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:03.580
So if I'm more on top of it, it's a little bit easier if I have the club face

85
00:04:03.580 --> 00:04:04.280
open, that

86
00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:08.800
thing's going to fade fairly, you know, a good amount.

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And if I do end up keeping my body a little bit more closed, then that's going

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to tend

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00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.440
to draw a fair amount.

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00:04:17.440 --> 00:04:21.720
So it becomes harder to have a really stable club face.

91
00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:25.310
So it's easier to have a little margin of error and make sure that I'm going to

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00:04:25.310 --> 00:04:25.640
hit

93
00:04:25.640 --> 00:04:28.760
either a bigger fade or a bigger draw.

94
00:04:28.760 --> 00:04:34.980
Now, lastly, equipment wise, you'll tend to do better with shorter clubs and

95
00:04:34.980 --> 00:04:35.760
even a little

96
00:04:35.760 --> 00:04:37.200
bit more upright.

97
00:04:37.200 --> 00:04:43.800
So the driver is typically the most problematic pattern, which you can either

98
00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:45.040
try to resolve

99
00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:50.190
by choking up or remembering some of those other keys and making sure that you

100
00:04:50.190 --> 00:04:50.520
don't

101
00:04:50.520 --> 00:04:53.480
swing hard and that you stay pretty tall.

102
00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:59.920
So what I usually recommend is in order to play the driver, you don't want to

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get the

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ball too far forward.

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So you're going to tend to hit the ball a little bit lower.

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It might be a little bit spinnier coming off, but that'll make it closer to

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your iron pattern

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so you don't have to make as big a change.

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I think that varying your ball position too much is almost the same thing as

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varying the

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length of swing.

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So quick summary, tying it all together.

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If you're going to, let's say you're going on a trip and you haven't had time

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to figure

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out how to shallow out the arms and get the body a little bit more involved or

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steep,

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we're going to get a little bit taller, a little bit more on top of that left

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foot.

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So shoulders are a little bit more level.

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We're going to focus on staying within ourselves as far as our rhythm goes.

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Shot wise, we're going to make sure that we're not trying to hit it dead

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straight.

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We're going to play one curve or the other and driver position, we're

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definitely not

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going to try to kill it and we might be comfortable hitting it a little bit

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lower from being more

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on top of the ball.

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If you do that, oftentimes some of these steep arm golfers have pretty good

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short games.

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This will be a way you can manage the full swing, avoid some of those big

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numbers, keep

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it in play until you have enough time where you can work on putting some of

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these pieces

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together.

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So let's do one more difference.

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So we'll do one where I do the steep arm pattern, kind of like that, a little

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less body turn,

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little more arm pull, kept the body a little bit more tall and quiet.

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And now we'll do more of my normal, so a little bit more arm shallow, a little

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bit more body

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rotation, kind of like that.

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