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Steep Timeline - What Steepens At Different Times In The Downswing

Reading the feedback from a shot is a good skill for longterm development. In this video, we discuss the different times that you might start creeping toward too steep a path and the movements that would take you there. But becoming more focused on the timing of when the swing issue creeps in, you'll have a good understanding of what is causing it and ultimately what you have to change to fix it.

Playlists: Fix Your Slice, Understand Your Swing Plane/Path, Swing Plane Simplified - Working with steeps and shallows

Tags: Fundamentals, Not Enough Distance, Member Question, Intermediate

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This video is Steep and Shallow timeline the steep version.

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So we're going to look at the downswing and we're going to look at getting the club in the

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steep position.

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So if you review the Steep and Shallow flowsharter, you look at the Steep and Shallow video.

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You'll see that the major steepening movements are going to be pulling down with the arms,

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left rotation with the arms, narrowing with the arms, flexing with the body, left rotation

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left side bend.

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So when we're looking at this timeline, we're basically looking at when are you getting

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into the steep pattern and ultimately what do we think is the driving force?

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Now we're going to break the downswing into three different phases.

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The middle phase is kind of this blend between the transition and the release, but we

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get either get steep right off the bat during transition, which would tend to be more

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of a power source thing, or we could get steep during the middle phase of blending

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transition into the release or during the release.

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If it's one of the latter, I'm thinking it's more of a how I control the face situation.

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So if we were to break those up, go up towards the top of the swing, getting steep early

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would be basically getting steep before the left arm is parallel to the ground.

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The major movements that are going to do that would be this left rotation and a little

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bit of a lunge, so from a body kind of going like this.

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And the big one would be the arms rotating to the left and pulling down, so kind of this

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pattern here.

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That's going to tend to get me into a steep position unless I really early send a really

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shallow out with my body.

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So if my arms look like they're getting steep in the early phases, it's typically going

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to be how I'm creating speed or how I'm powering the swing.

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So then the second phase would be looking, if everything's kind of okay here, that means

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I started with my lower body and then it tends to get steep here.

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I'm starting to think of controlling low point in path, but the big movement that's

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going to tend to happen is going to be a little bit more of this forward lunge.

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So when I do that first movement, what should then happen is as I start the release,

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my body is going to brace and go into this side bend.

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But if my body continues to get on top, that will tend to get the club getting a little

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bit to outside or a little bit too steep.

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So that ends up looking like this from the face on and kind of like that where it's

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getting steep in there, which will usually result in a little bit more of this scoop early

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extension pattern.

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So then the last option would be down at the bottom of swing.

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And that's going to tend to be mostly from either not having a lot of this right side bend,

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or staying very level.

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But the big ones are now we're down in the release zone and it's going to tend to be more

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of what's happening with the arms.

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So if I'm getting steep down at the bottom, it usually means that either my arms are

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getting too rotated like this.

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So they're rotating left as opposed to my don't break the arm where we kind of maintain

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that alignment so that from down the line the right arm is a little bit more under the

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left or it could be hinging the wrist and kind of bending this way or not having enough

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of this owner deviation.

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So if I'm in a good position right into there, but then I continue rotating and don't

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release the owner, you can see that that tends to get on top and has really kind of

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diggy contact compared to if I got to that same position and released that owner, you can

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see that the club is now going to kind of slide and glide through the wall.

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So if you're struggling with trying to figure out when you get steep, I always recommend

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using video.

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If you tend to have consistent steep feedback so you're tend to get more outside in

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path, you're tend to get toe hits, maybe even really deep divots, I would lose video

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to kind of identify at the timing of when you're getting steep so that you'll be able

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to figure out the appropriate correction.

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If you're not sure you can always submit your swing and we'd be happy to guide you as to

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when you're getting steep and what drills we think have the best chance of fixing it.

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