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Live Q & A - Big Moves 2 - March 25, 2018

Live Q&A discussing the Motorcycle, Jackson 5, Arm shallow and more..

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alright guys welcome to the part 2

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edition of the stream on the big

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movements if you have any questions

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please post them in the chat window and

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I'll get to as many as I can but as you

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can see I still had a bunch of email

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questions that I didn't have a chance in

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to get to so let me know if there's any

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audio problems I got the mic going so

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hopefully we're pretty good

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I didn't mean to time it perfectly but

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uh hopefully some of your jumping over

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from the Duke Kansas game and uh

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hopefully we can have a exciting little

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halftime show here without further ado

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ok

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Robby sent a question in about the arm

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extension in the follow-through

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is it better to train it as part of how

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you're generating speed or is it better

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to train it as part of how you're

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controlling path he's his comment was

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the typically finds it works better

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training it with speed well I'm not too

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big on absolutes because it could be

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related to how the golfer is controlling

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the path or it could be how they're

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controlling the speed one thing one

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little kind of insight that will give is

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if it is more of a power related issue

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then training positions is usually not

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as effective as training movements and

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so when you're talking about arm

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extension that can be more related to

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how they're powering the swing because

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what will happen is a lot of golfers

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down at the bottom will feel a sense of

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power by bracing and flipping the wrists

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creating a lot of kind of tension in the

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forearms right around impact versus

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having that continued motorcycle where

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the hands are still slightly ahead of

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the the club head and the body is just

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continuing on the way through so I tend

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to agree with with Robbie's question

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that

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I think it's more of a creating speed

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element that a lot of golfers just feel

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stronger when they have more forearm

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tension and then when they have that

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forearm tension the body is going to

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stall right around impact so training

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like my hit might hit your arms drill or

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hit my arms tends to create more of a

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feeling of power with a different part

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of your body and that tends to help

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really well with the getting the better

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flat spot or arm extension his second

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question was his pronation of the trail

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foot so he was the one who asked last

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time about the trail foot and I talked

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about how ideally the sequences the

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trail foot will tend to Bank and then it

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will extend and then after impact it

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will rotate mostly because of the

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rotation of the pivot no his question

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was is that pronation of the trail for

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it independent of or is it a reaction of

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other movements so nothing is truly

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independent but if you think if you

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think about it from a more global

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picture right if we think about it as

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I'm trying to push through the ground

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and I'm trying to kind of spiral that

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leg in a movement kind of like this so

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I'm letting my arm kind of almost mirror

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the way my foot is pushing against the

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ground well in order to use the big

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muscles of my hip my foot has to create

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an anchor my foot has to create kind of

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a connection point and so when I start

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banking that foot it's kind of part of

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pushing against the inside of the foot

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to allow for that hip to really create

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some some force because it'll be have a

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stronger fixed point and be in a better

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position or relationship so it's not

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truly independent just as in like just

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by rolling the foot isn't gonna make

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your sequence any get any better but if

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you're using the foot and the hips

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yeah there the foot will bank slightly

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before the hip will go into extension

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and external rotation where should you

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look related that question where should

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you look if students struggle first with

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that first trail foot movement so if

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they struggle with more of that

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pronation the foot where should you look

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first thing you want to do is just kind

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of Robbie's coach so I'll give them kind

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of the coach's perspective first thing

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you want to do is just a basic kind of

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form flattened arches test if you're

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good with the feet you can take off the

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shoes and you can look at the mobility

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if the foot has a hard time banking

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inside on its own they're gonna have a

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hard time doing it with speed in the

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golf swing so first thing is just

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clearing that physical capability the

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second piece would then be if they have

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a good enough release where they could

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handle having side Bend and continue

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rotating because what will happen is a

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lot of golfers you start banking that

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foot and they start either catching it

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thin or fat or more on the toe because

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they haven't trained it good enough

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white position so work on make sure they

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have a release that can support a good

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foot action and then screen the foot

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make sure that the foot is working

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properly that usually gets that first

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movement okay baaz had a question about

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the power package I don't have the power

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package training aid but it looks very

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much like a swing guy except it has a

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second handle coming off of it kind of

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like this so the thing I I do like it

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better than the swing guide the I've

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mentioned for the problem with the swing

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guide is it really emphasizes the radial

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deviation and it emphasizes reimaging on

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the second side or on the follow-through

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side it can help for not bending the

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arms because typically when you bend the

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arm in the follow-through it would be

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hard to also get the the swing guide up

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against the forearm but typically what I

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see is golfers who practice a lot with

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that end up getting more of kind of an

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arm dominant pole and

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transition so not a huge fan but the

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power package emphasizes a little bit

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more of the trail risk getting that

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extension so I like it a little bit

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better but it does I don't think it

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teaches the right arm rotation quite as

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well as it needs to so it's more of kind

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of a transition and setting in top of

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the swing trainer for me then really a

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dynamic down swing trainer but it's it's

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better than the swing go so if you're

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looking to improve your extension of the

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wrist it's not a bad training it for

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working out okay

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gy├Ârgy I'm not sure what part of the

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world he's in he asked about the lead

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knee motion so then lead knee motion in

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transition basically

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internal/external trying to get looking

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at where the knee is happening so I'm

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gonna lower the camera so we can kind of

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see what's going on here oh so here's

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one of the tricky things what what the

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question relates to is in the transition

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of basically okay if the knee stays in

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like this and I shift that's commonly

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referred to as internal rotation of the

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hip and then if I get to the top of the

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swing and as I'm shifting that knee goes

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out that's typically referred to as

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external rotation of the hip or

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sometimes it's referred to as external

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rotation the knee by the book like the

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true knee rotation would actually happen

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more at the ankle like this so when I

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turn that foot in that's the tibia

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rotating in and when I turn the foot out

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that's the tibia rotating out so that's

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the true internal external rotation of

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the foot so if I did external rotate or

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sorry open the knee if I did external

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rotation of the knee after the same

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thing isn't the knee pointing in so

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actually going that way would have more

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external rotation of the knee where if I

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go morality

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this that would actually be more

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internal rotation on the knee so the

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that the hard thing is the description

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that is most common doesn't really match

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the anatomical relationship so the real

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question is do I want to have that knees

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stay put as I shift or should it work

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towards the target I'll still be going

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into internal rotation it's not a big

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difference as far as what's happening

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here at the hip as in if I go this way

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I'm going into internal rotation if I go

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that way it's going into internal

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rotation the the big difference is

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typically what's happening with the

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trail leg and what's happening with the

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upper body ideally yes it's going to

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have a little bit more of a look of

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following you don't want to have that

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look of the knee coming in that's

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typically from a little bit too much

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upper body lunge or from going into that

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bad foot mechanic of spinning the heel

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as opposed to banking that foot so I

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think the look he's going for it and

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describing is correct but the the word

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of internal external rotation

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unfortunately isn't quite accurate okay

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and then his last well his follow-up

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question was kind of what does that play

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in rotation as I demonstrate it it's

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more of a sign of where the where the

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rotation is coming from here's them

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here's how I look at it so you want to

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take the big picture of what's the

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general movement and the general

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movement in the can be broken down into

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torsion so in the there's two different

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types of torsion I would have a positive

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torsion we justwhen let's say it's to

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the left it would be flexing forward and

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rotating or a negative portion so I

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would be extending and rotating those

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are a a combination of movements but

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blend into one so it's called torsion in

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the backswing we tend to have negative

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torsion

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then in the downswing we're gonna have

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positive torsion and then during the

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release we're going back into negative

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torsion and when you look at it more

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from that perspective of the global

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picture of what's happening at the spine

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then what happening what's happening at

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the legs should match what you're trying

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to do with the spine so it's not just

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that if you get the proper knee action

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it will work perfectly

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the key is making sure that the foot the

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knee the hip are all related to what the

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spine is doing all right

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I want to get through as many of these

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as I can Bob asked a tricky question he

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asked the what muscle groups initiate

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the key movement so what muscle groups

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initiate arm shallowing the Jackson 5

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and the motor cycle so here's where

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unfortunately my brain would go

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yes Mike on thanks for tuning in from

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Sweden there's your shoutout I

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appreciate you ok back to Bob's question

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what initiates the arm shallowing what

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initiates the Jackson 5 the the trick is

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going to be what are we are we feeling

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what is actually triggering it and where

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does the motion take place so like let's

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take for example if I were doing a bicep

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curl right so if I was doing a bicep

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curl and you had sensors or if you had

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EMG measuring parts of my body the first

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thing you would see would be a impulse

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in my foot actually you would see my

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core and then you would see my foot and

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then you would see all the support up

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until the bicep then I would have a high

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activity of the bicep so you'd say that

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this motion was a bicep activity but it

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started all the way down at the feet or

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in the core depending on how you're

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looking at it so when we get to the big

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movements like the arm showing to

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Jackson 5 the motorcycle what initiates

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the movement may not be where you're

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ultimately going to feel it I know

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that's a little bit tricky so for

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example the arm shallow is really in

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initiated more by the foot and the core

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and the ribcage rotation and having a

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little bit of reduced grip pressure

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especially in the trail form so many

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amateurs tend to really squeeze and pull

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down with the forearm as opposed to

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letting that forearm be soft and letting

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the speed come more from my body pulling

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on it and that body pull is initiating

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more at the feet because you need a

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fixed point in order to create force in

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a forcible way so the arm shot was

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initiated from the lower body or the

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core but you can feel it if you're

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actively doing it either in the lead

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forearm or in the trail shoulder you may

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even feel it more as a flexion kind of

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combination of the motorcycle movement

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but that's that's again where you feel

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it and where the movement is actually

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originating might not be the same thing

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so that's the arm shout the motorcycle

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his question was if when sorry so what

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the motorcyclist question was is it more

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of an arm pull or core rotation on the

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way through

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so basically here we'll switch legs so

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that I can rotate that way easier so if

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I'm going on the way through the

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question was basically is an arm pull in

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order to keep that rotation of the wrist

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or is it more a body pull and the arm

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just kind of rotates but follows the

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body pull you know guys have showed with

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you can do either so whether it's more

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of like a phil mickleson upper body

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dominant style where the arms are

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pulling it into position or more of like

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a ven Hogan style where the body is

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pulling through you can do either but

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more

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P double pattern is the body pulls

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through and the arm just kind of stays a

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little bit softer in order to control

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the movement as opposed to really

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driving a powerful arm activity then the

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last one was about the Jackson 5 so I

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already talked it's a little bit more

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going from the from the feet rather than

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from the hips the the key is that the

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foot and the hip and the spine kind of

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all worked together in that Sai until

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Jackson 5 pattern so I'm a big fan of

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using the feet properly to help get the

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hips in core working properly as well as

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long as the arms and the club are in a

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position where you could take advantage

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of it okay so we'll take a quick break

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from the emails and we'll answer some of

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the questions because I see them

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starting to really pour in okay

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so first question was from William how

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to prevent early extension when

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performing the Jackson 5 the key thing

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there is when you are doing the Jackson

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5 to make sure that it's going in the

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slightly left of the target not in the

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direction of the hips so when I teach

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the Jackson 5 it's a lateral movement

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like this but then when I go to the top

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of the swing a lot of golfers still go

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lateral with the direction of the pelvis

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and they start going that way so what

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you have to feel is that it's actually

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going a little bit more backwards so if

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I was doing let's say a better version

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or a more swing and related version of

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the Jackson 5 it would actually be more

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like I was going like this where the

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hips were going back 45 instead of

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purely at the target that helps my body

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flex forward which is part of that

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positive torsion pattern so that's the

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other piece is making sure that you're

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using your abs with that

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Jackson five and not just using too much

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of your back in order to move your hips

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he had a second question he got here

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first so he gets two questions answered

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ideally when does the club catch up with

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the hands after impact both for driver

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and 6-iron for driver I use the

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reference of about chef parallel is

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where you know the guys like Jordan

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speith or Joe Durant or Jim Furyk or

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henrik stenson like guys who tend to be

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have really good ball striking

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statistics the club will catch up with

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them a little bit later here with an

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iron it's probably closer to about chef

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45 all right Craig working on the

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motorcycle move but still can't get my

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hands forward enough do I need more

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motorcycle or could it be something else

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um definitely could be something else

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motorcycle movement is solves two

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problems motorcycle movement let's get a

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little bit better in frame so motorcycle

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movement solves the slice and it solves

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chef lean because when I flex that lead

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wrist or twist the club if I didn't get

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my hands ahead the clubface will be

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pointed really close so I'm gonna hit

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massive poles so it's a key component to

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getting the hands ahead and it squares

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the face to the path relationship which

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prevents the slice that being said if

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your arm timing is if your arm timing is

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more going into kind of this under flip

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pattern where that right arm stays

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behind your body and the palm stays

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facing kind of more towards you instead

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of facing more away that will move the

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bottom the swing backward it's very hard

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to do that and keep the motorcycle but

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it is possible because I could very

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easily keep up that left wrist flat and

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release the right arm a little bit

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earlier so you'll start to see the club

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coming up through impact so I do a lot

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of trail arm training

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got a couple new drills that I'll be

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filming tomorrow they've been working

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pretty well but things like the single

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arm drills throws the disc catcher all

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seem to help train that right arm

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getting more in front which helped

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support the motorcycle of the lead wrist

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okay Nick asked what would you suggest

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for across the line and slightly open at

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the top the current transition pulls

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down the club opens the face a bit more

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fixed backswing or transitioned I would

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tend to try both and see which works for

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you what typically happens is some

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golfers their brain interprets strange

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transition later than it actually is on

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video what I mean by that so what what

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many golfers do is when they start doing

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a transition move it actually happens

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right around here so what that means is

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all of this is kind of like a blind spot

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like their brain isn't really aware of

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what's going on at that point so what I

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frequently have to do is train more

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trying to motorcycle to end the top of

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the backswing instead of starting the

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downswing the other thing would be

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looking at the direction that you're

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pushing on the club so whether you're

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pulling more down or whether you have a

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feeling of almost pushing more up that

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can have a I've got a video coming out

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probably next week not this week but the

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following week there relates to how the

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hands push on the club and how it

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relates to your arm challenge I've had

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some good success with some kind of mid

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lower handicap golfers with that feel

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one more eat and then we'll jump back to

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the emails all right what type of

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backswing would you recommend if the

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autonomic core system of lateral head of

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the bicep is injured since a couple

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months ago the 13 handicap so lateral

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head of the bicep it's Mike is it more

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than is it the left arm by

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where is the right arm bicep I'll come

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back to your question but I need a

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little bit more information

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okay so let me jump into some more of

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the email questions and then we'll get

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to some of these questions pouring in

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online

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all right so Adam Adam asked if we were

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doing slow motion sequence positions

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what would kind of the tempo be so

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basically like if we had position 1 is

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the takeaway 2 as the start of

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transition 3 end of transition beginning

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of release for end of the release with

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the tempo beat even typically all the

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research will show that the downswing is

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about a third of the backswing so it has

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kind of a little bit more of a 1/2

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versus a 1/2 where it's more the same

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tempo would be more like wedge shots or

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as you're getting into pudding but it

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tends to be much faster on the downswing

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so if you're training tempo and rhythm I

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would tend to say if you're counting it

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out you would want a little bit like

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1000 1 2 is something that I've used for

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golfers in the past instead of trying to

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count differently just take a word that

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is gonna take a lot longer to say we're

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about three times longer to say so I

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would do that one that one-piece

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takeaway is position 1 1000 1 2 and that

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would kind of get me all the way through

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there now it's really hard if you're

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doing it in sequence to to break up the

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transition and the release but if you're

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doing it in more of of the actual phase

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I would recommend doing it at half speed

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so you might have to say it twice so

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let's go one thousand one one thousand

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one one two so you go one thousand one

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one thousand one

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- and that would be slow-motion training

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of more the release and follow-through

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with a little bit of a tempo component

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to it but the downswing tempo is usually

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about three times faster than the

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backswing okay Fred had a bunch of

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questions so we'll get through some of

00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:07.260
his first one he was asking about the

00:24:07.260 --> 00:24:10.770
orange whip wedge he just got it and he

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asked how do you practice it can you use

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it for distance wedges as well as

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finesse I'm definitely a bigger fan of

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using it for finesse and the way I like

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to use it I know a couple coaches that

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use it polar opposites but the way I

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like to use it is having my students try

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to make the swing where the wedge does

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not move so there's basically no

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downswing loading the I know of a coach

00:24:38.280 --> 00:24:41.160
who's really good at getting more of the

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speed out into the handle but the real

00:24:43.920 --> 00:24:46.470
benefit and what I like about the that

00:24:46.470 --> 00:24:49.920
orange which whip wedge is making sure

00:24:49.920 --> 00:24:52.560
that I'm not getting any loading of the

00:24:52.560 --> 00:24:54.990
shaft in transition so feeling really

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almost caste and like the arms dropping

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and the weight of the club head is

00:25:02.010 --> 00:25:03.870
starting the downswing we know that

00:25:03.870 --> 00:25:05.010
that's not truly the case there's

00:25:05.010 --> 00:25:08.070
definitely some lower body movement but

00:25:08.070 --> 00:25:09.990
it's a feeling of more the weight out at

00:25:09.990 --> 00:25:12.180
the club and when you use the wedge it

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won't Bend the Flex very much second I

00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:19.470
don't like it as well for distance

00:25:19.470 --> 00:25:22.080
wedges maybe up to about 50 yards but

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when you start getting past there if you

00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.510
do have any amount of motorcycle and

00:25:27.510 --> 00:25:30.540
shaft lean it'll tent or motorcycling

00:25:30.540 --> 00:25:32.640
and more of a power sequence it does

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:34.800
tend to hit the ball off to the right so

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I like it a lot more for around the

00:25:36.810 --> 00:25:41.760
greens but I know the word were having

00:25:41.760 --> 00:25:44.490
stand out late here sometime this spring

00:25:44.490 --> 00:25:47.100
so I'll pick his brain about how he uses

00:25:47.100 --> 00:25:48.720
it for distance wedges because he's that

00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:52.770
he's the king of that training tool okay

00:25:52.770 --> 00:25:55.790
his second question do I prefer low

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flighted wedges with no dead

00:25:58.040 --> 00:25:59.690
so there's two parts of this question I

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do prefer low flighted wedges the tour

00:26:04.850 --> 00:26:06.260
average you know being somewhere around

00:26:06.260 --> 00:26:10.130
thirty degrees of launch angle when I

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watch the guys close-up you don't really

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see anyone deviating from that pattern

00:26:15.230 --> 00:26:17.930
now the the key there or the second part

00:26:17.930 --> 00:26:19.400
of the question was where you've taken

00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.190
no divot that is entirely grass

00:26:22.190 --> 00:26:24.110
dependent I've seen different events

00:26:24.110 --> 00:26:26.960
where they're taking fairly significant

00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.990
difference divots and other events where

00:26:29.990 --> 00:26:32.810
the grass is barely moved so it really

00:26:32.810 --> 00:26:36.890
depends on the saturation the root

00:26:36.890 --> 00:26:41.240
structure I I like to get a certain

00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:46.760
baseline at your home course but the key

00:26:46.760 --> 00:26:49.070
there is wedges are steep but they have

00:26:49.070 --> 00:26:51.440
a low point that's relatively close to

00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:54.680
the ground so it's steep and it has a

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fair amount of overtaking or the club

00:26:57.500 --> 00:26:59.990
passing on the way through compared to

00:26:59.990 --> 00:27:02.270
the full swing and that's part of how

00:27:02.270 --> 00:27:05.540
you can be steep and not really gouge

00:27:05.540 --> 00:27:08.390
the ground but the size of the divot is

00:27:08.390 --> 00:27:11.780
going to depend a fair amount on the

00:27:11.780 --> 00:27:17.120
turf conditions he asked let's you one

00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:20.150
more Fred and then we'll jump back where

00:27:20.150 --> 00:27:22.040
is my main power source or how can I

00:27:22.040 --> 00:27:24.590
tell in the book I talk about one of the

00:27:24.590 --> 00:27:26.810
areas you know being or one way being

00:27:26.810 --> 00:27:29.810
where are you sore I just did a video

00:27:29.810 --> 00:27:31.880
this past week where I showed kind of

00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:35.420
one where I showed the one of the key

00:27:35.420 --> 00:27:37.460
differences in the different power

00:27:37.460 --> 00:27:41.450
sources I first I categorize are we more

00:27:41.450 --> 00:27:43.810
lower body core are we more upper body

00:27:43.810 --> 00:27:47.030
and that can be determined by what's

00:27:47.030 --> 00:27:50.960
going on in here once you've figured out

00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:53.510
whether your upper body or more core

00:27:53.510 --> 00:27:56.060
lower body it gets a little bit trickier

00:27:56.060 --> 00:27:59.900
to try and identify exactly whether

00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:03.380
you're doing it more from the right side

00:28:03.380 --> 00:28:05.929
or more from the left side or right arm

00:28:05.929 --> 00:28:08.509
farm and that's where I would go to more

00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:11.029
the soreness but he mentioned that he

00:28:11.029 --> 00:28:12.889
feels it more in his lower back and that

00:28:12.889 --> 00:28:18.350
could be more of a transition or more of

00:28:18.350 --> 00:28:21.769
a impact kind of compensation as opposed

00:28:21.769 --> 00:28:24.350
to more of a creating speed creating

00:28:24.350 --> 00:28:27.950
power phenomenon so I would start with

00:28:27.950 --> 00:28:31.159
that kind of corner zone but basically

00:28:31.159 --> 00:28:33.740
the blend of transition to release will

00:28:33.740 --> 00:28:39.139
reveal a lot and then you you can do

00:28:39.139 --> 00:28:40.340
strategies like if you're more

00:28:40.340 --> 00:28:42.409
upper-body dominant and you did more of

00:28:42.409 --> 00:28:44.779
a lead arm only or a trail arm only

00:28:44.779 --> 00:28:47.210
which one feels the most similar that

00:28:47.210 --> 00:28:48.529
will give you an idea as far as right

00:28:48.529 --> 00:28:50.779
first left if you exaggerated more

00:28:50.779 --> 00:28:53.119
weight forward weight back you could

00:28:53.119 --> 00:28:54.649
break down the lower body a little bit

00:28:54.649 --> 00:28:57.379
that way but it's it's more of an art

00:28:57.379 --> 00:28:58.909
than a true science to figure out your

00:28:58.909 --> 00:29:01.879
exact power sources that way actually

00:29:01.879 --> 00:29:03.049
we'll do one more because he has a real

00:29:03.049 --> 00:29:05.389
quick one how is lifting a power source

00:29:05.389 --> 00:29:07.570
so I talked about chopped first lift or

00:29:07.570 --> 00:29:09.950
crunch first extend a lot of those

00:29:09.950 --> 00:29:12.710
different patterns so lifting is a power

00:29:12.710 --> 00:29:15.710
source just the same way a chalk would

00:29:15.710 --> 00:29:17.840
be so imagine I have a medicine ball or

00:29:17.840 --> 00:29:20.690
a cable machine and I was going to pull

00:29:20.690 --> 00:29:22.700
a medicine ball or cable down that way

00:29:22.700 --> 00:29:25.220
that would be creating force in that

00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:27.679
direction now imagine that I had a cable

00:29:27.679 --> 00:29:31.399
down there and now I was going to pull

00:29:31.399 --> 00:29:34.220
that cable or throw a ball a medicine

00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:37.009
ball up that way that would be more of a

00:29:37.009 --> 00:29:38.779
lift pattern and that's what you'll tend

00:29:38.779 --> 00:29:43.159
to see with the with more of the tour

00:29:43.159 --> 00:29:45.139
swing so with more of the driver and the

00:29:45.139 --> 00:29:46.759
long irons you'll tend to see more of a

00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.070
pattern where the energy and those arms

00:29:49.070 --> 00:29:50.990
are lifting up off the body which

00:29:50.990 --> 00:29:53.029
complements the body and rotation on the

00:29:53.029 --> 00:29:53.450
way through

00:29:53.450 --> 00:29:56.029
and then we're in the wedges and the

00:29:56.029 --> 00:29:57.950
short irons you'll see more of that chop

00:29:57.950 --> 00:30:00.230
pattern which complements more of a

00:30:00.230 --> 00:30:03.529
drifting less kind of bracing and power

00:30:03.529 --> 00:30:05.539
generation from the from the core and

00:30:05.539 --> 00:30:10.009
body ok let's get back to some of these

00:30:10.009 --> 00:30:14.029
questions still didn't get which bicep

00:30:14.029 --> 00:30:16.009
from Mike's are gonna move on golf

00:30:16.009 --> 00:30:18.080
junkie asked are the zora loops

00:30:18.080 --> 00:30:19.490
initiated from a

00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:21.650
closed upper body should it feel as if

00:30:21.650 --> 00:30:23.330
the forearms are rolling over I

00:30:23.330 --> 00:30:25.730
understand that they are not but it

00:30:25.730 --> 00:30:29.390
might feel that they are yes the zora

00:30:29.390 --> 00:30:32.690
loop is initiated basically at

00:30:32.690 --> 00:30:34.370
transition so your upper body is

00:30:34.370 --> 00:30:36.910
probably 90 degrees closed at that point

00:30:36.910 --> 00:30:40.670
and what I like to what a lot of golfers

00:30:40.670 --> 00:30:44.150
describe the feel as is as those arms

00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:46.940
roll over they're also extending and

00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:49.370
most golfers feel it has more of this

00:30:49.370 --> 00:30:52.400
extension not so much of a rolling over

00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.290
the danger of if it feels too much like

00:30:54.290 --> 00:30:56.870
rolling over is down at the bottom you

00:30:56.870 --> 00:30:59.390
can get kind of this steep look and the

00:30:59.390 --> 00:31:02.090
club going that way where if you have it

00:31:02.090 --> 00:31:04.429
more of the rotation where the club is

00:31:04.429 --> 00:31:06.650
going out the hands will work a little

00:31:06.650 --> 00:31:08.900
bit more less but the club will finish

00:31:08.900 --> 00:31:11.000
down the line and you'll finish with the

00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.950
club more in line with your forms

00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:16.220
instead of that kind of quick flip look

00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:22.309
on the follow-through okay Jason asked

00:31:22.309 --> 00:31:24.230
release question one my favorite topics

00:31:24.230 --> 00:31:28.100
good question for one who has mobility

00:31:28.100 --> 00:31:30.920
limitations and struggles to get into

00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.440
right lateral bend what other perhaps

00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:35.720
earlier shallowing movements are

00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:37.520
essential to keep the path from going

00:31:37.520 --> 00:31:43.309
too far left so if you there's a there's

00:31:43.309 --> 00:31:46.070
a later question to all kind of come up

00:31:46.070 --> 00:31:48.710
combo that one to one of Fred's he was

00:31:48.710 --> 00:31:50.330
asking about what do you do with older

00:31:50.330 --> 00:31:53.120
golfers because once you get over the

00:31:53.120 --> 00:31:55.730
age of about 60 you lose about two

00:31:55.730 --> 00:31:58.670
thirds of your right lateral bend so you

00:31:58.670 --> 00:32:00.860
won't see too many Dustin Johnson's out

00:32:00.860 --> 00:32:04.309
on the Senior Tour what happens to the

00:32:04.309 --> 00:32:08.900
spine well I I coach I tell most of my

00:32:08.900 --> 00:32:10.760
senior golfers to do some stretching and

00:32:10.760 --> 00:32:13.010
try to get as much from the hips as you

00:32:13.010 --> 00:32:15.950
can because there's no real reason you

00:32:15.950 --> 00:32:18.050
need to lose a lot of the hip mobility

00:32:18.050 --> 00:32:21.230
if you can't do the spine but let's for

00:32:21.230 --> 00:32:23.120
our even say say that we've lost that

00:32:23.120 --> 00:32:25.880
ability to really right lateral bend

00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.400
either from the hips or from the spot so

00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:31.059
now since this isn't going to get

00:32:31.059 --> 00:32:32.769
down towards the ground I'm gonna have

00:32:32.769 --> 00:32:34.779
to use my arms a little bit earlier so

00:32:34.779 --> 00:32:36.820
straightening the arms is a shallower

00:32:36.820 --> 00:32:41.169
and the the danger is that that will

00:32:41.169 --> 00:32:44.070
cause the low point to move backward

00:32:44.070 --> 00:32:46.769
unless I drift a little bit more forward

00:32:46.769 --> 00:32:49.720
so what I usually coach is if you're

00:32:49.720 --> 00:32:51.759
gonna do more of an upper body cast

00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.100
pattern I focus a lot on upper body

00:32:54.100 --> 00:32:56.980
stability and I focus more on kind of

00:32:56.980 --> 00:32:59.279
the rhythm of when the arms extend

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:03.899
instead of the absolute positions I also

00:33:03.899 --> 00:33:06.639
still focus and get a lot of success

00:33:06.639 --> 00:33:09.100
working on the motorcycle movement and

00:33:09.100 --> 00:33:11.619
it's more of a kind of getting those

00:33:11.619 --> 00:33:14.740
arms to extend out in front as opposed

00:33:14.740 --> 00:33:19.840
to less of that like body driven white

00:33:19.840 --> 00:33:21.369
movement it's more just the arm

00:33:21.369 --> 00:33:23.320
direction in white movement it will tend

00:33:23.320 --> 00:33:24.820
to have a little bit steeper angle of

00:33:24.820 --> 00:33:27.279
attack that way so for the longer clubs

00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.279
you may have to make some compensations

00:33:30.279 --> 00:33:32.440
potentially a little bit more loft

00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:35.799
playing a shorter club some set up

00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:38.289
changes but I typically what if you've

00:33:38.289 --> 00:33:41.440
lost set a lateral bend a cast pattern

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:43.840
does help in terms of shallowing things

00:33:43.840 --> 00:33:45.909
out and making sure that you're not

00:33:45.909 --> 00:33:48.009
spinning too much from your upper body

00:33:48.009 --> 00:33:49.740
can help make sure it shallows it out

00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:51.999
both of those would help prevent the

00:33:51.999 --> 00:33:55.869
path from getting too far left Jason

00:33:55.869 --> 00:33:58.480
also said the book is fantastic by the

00:33:58.480 --> 00:33:58.690
way

00:33:58.690 --> 00:34:02.080
thank you very much I really appreciate

00:34:02.080 --> 00:34:03.820
the the feedback some of its been a

00:34:03.820 --> 00:34:06.100
little overwhelming the way you empower

00:34:06.100 --> 00:34:08.589
the readers to decode the pattern the

00:34:08.589 --> 00:34:11.200
stuff songs steep and shallows is gold

00:34:11.200 --> 00:34:13.960
well thank you very much I you know I

00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.450
had a lesson this week and the gentleman

00:34:16.450 --> 00:34:18.940
said that you know he doesn't hit every

00:34:18.940 --> 00:34:22.419
shot perfectly but it's fun because he's

00:34:22.419 --> 00:34:26.260
at least able to move the needle as he

00:34:26.260 --> 00:34:28.960
described it or basically he can kind of

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.639
self correct if he starts having some

00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.020
problems so that's the that's what I

00:34:35.020 --> 00:34:38.290
think is the ultimate goal right no one

00:34:38.290 --> 00:34:40.690
ever has their Swing perfect forever the

00:34:40.690 --> 00:34:42.970
goal is that you learn the tools to be

00:34:42.970 --> 00:34:44.110
able to

00:34:44.110 --> 00:34:46.810
course correct and self correct when it

00:34:46.810 --> 00:34:49.210
gets off because I promise if you think

00:34:49.210 --> 00:34:52.540
you have it today by next week something

00:34:52.540 --> 00:34:54.520
will have crept in and you better have

00:34:54.520 --> 00:34:57.060
the strategy to be able to handle it

00:34:57.060 --> 00:35:00.010
Patrick asked can you explain how to

00:35:00.010 --> 00:35:02.560
shallow the arms while the hand path

00:35:02.560 --> 00:35:05.860
works down mine tend to work out too

00:35:05.860 --> 00:35:12.850
much so typically working through this

00:35:12.850 --> 00:35:15.310
question so typically when the hands

00:35:15.310 --> 00:35:18.010
move out the club will shallow unless it

00:35:18.010 --> 00:35:20.920
goes more everything together so let's

00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:23.230
say that my interpretation of the

00:35:23.230 --> 00:35:24.700
question is that everything is going out

00:35:24.700 --> 00:35:26.170
together so the club's not shallowing

00:35:26.170 --> 00:35:28.930
what's typically happening there is that

00:35:28.930 --> 00:35:31.900
more of the that transition move is

00:35:31.900 --> 00:35:33.730
happening more from that left shoulder

00:35:33.730 --> 00:35:38.980
kind of spinning as opposed to a feeling

00:35:38.980 --> 00:35:41.950
of getting more of a little bit of

00:35:41.950 --> 00:35:45.490
stretch so if I if I face this way what

00:35:45.490 --> 00:35:47.860
you'll see is as my lower body starts

00:35:47.860 --> 00:35:50.170
can you see how that shoulder blade gets

00:35:50.170 --> 00:35:53.350
stretched a bit so the shoulder is not

00:35:53.350 --> 00:35:56.290
following the ribcage movement for the

00:35:56.290 --> 00:35:58.680
initial portion of the downswing

00:35:58.680 --> 00:36:00.970
allowing the arms that have some

00:36:00.970 --> 00:36:05.770
softness and let them kind of shallow it

00:36:05.770 --> 00:36:08.620
a bit because again typically when the

00:36:08.620 --> 00:36:10.630
hands work out if it's purely from the

00:36:10.630 --> 00:36:12.820
arms perspective that's the force that

00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:14.920
causes it to shallow but if the hands

00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:17.590
work out because of the body or the left

00:36:17.590 --> 00:36:19.990
shoulder kind of pulling back that will

00:36:19.990 --> 00:36:23.350
cause it to steepen okay let's get back

00:36:23.350 --> 00:36:27.610
to a few of these email questions so

00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:30.450
Fred asked if the kinematic sequence

00:36:30.450 --> 00:36:32.950
isn't the only way

00:36:32.950 --> 00:36:35.050
what other successful patterns do you

00:36:35.050 --> 00:36:37.540
see so in the last class he was asking

00:36:37.540 --> 00:36:40.150
about or in the last YouTube live he was

00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:43.780
asking about what kinematic see like

00:36:43.780 --> 00:36:45.820
what's the stock tour swing kinematic

00:36:45.820 --> 00:36:51.070
sequence pattern and I with the

00:36:51.070 --> 00:36:53.110
kinematic sequence you will typically

00:36:53.110 --> 00:36:55.480
see a very consistent transition sequel

00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:01.780
of pelvis pelvis trunk arm club but when

00:37:01.780 --> 00:37:03.280
you start working at looking at the

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.369
peeking order you'll typically see the

00:37:06.369 --> 00:37:08.859
lower body go first but or peek first

00:37:08.859 --> 00:37:10.869
but not always sometimes it has more of

00:37:10.869 --> 00:37:14.290
a plateau sometimes it's later um it

00:37:14.290 --> 00:37:17.050
really depends on swing styles body

00:37:17.050 --> 00:37:18.790
capabilities release patterns whether

00:37:18.790 --> 00:37:20.710
you prioritize distance whether you

00:37:20.710 --> 00:37:24.760
prioritize accuracy so the transition I

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:26.590
would say you know what what everybody

00:37:26.590 --> 00:37:28.830
said the kinematics sequence shows

00:37:28.830 --> 00:37:30.609
absolutely correct what everyone's

00:37:30.609 --> 00:37:33.160
talked from the ground up all that stuff

00:37:33.160 --> 00:37:35.770
is well and true if you're talking about

00:37:35.770 --> 00:37:37.450
the downswing peaking order

00:37:37.450 --> 00:37:40.080
I've just seen way too many examples of

00:37:40.080 --> 00:37:43.000
really good ball strikers like you know

00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:44.980
elite level Tour ball strikers who don't

00:37:44.980 --> 00:37:46.410
have a perfect

00:37:46.410 --> 00:37:48.640
one-two-three-four kinematic sequence

00:37:48.640 --> 00:37:53.350
often times it's one three to four but

00:37:53.350 --> 00:37:55.480
there are some really good ball strikers

00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:57.310
who where it's more stacked up and the

00:37:57.310 --> 00:38:00.640
time delay between one two three are is

00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:06.190
almost nothing so I would say if you're

00:38:06.190 --> 00:38:08.890
using the kinematic sequence and more as

00:38:08.890 --> 00:38:12.280
a reference for guiding what you want to

00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.250
work on in the gym like where the

00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:17.280
potential injury points are where the

00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:21.190
potential weaknesses or inhibitions are

00:38:21.190 --> 00:38:24.609
and then use that as more of a long-term

00:38:24.609 --> 00:38:27.160
focus of what to work on rehab wise

00:38:27.160 --> 00:38:30.820
strength wise as opposed to the

00:38:30.820 --> 00:38:32.710
downswing peaking port order being an

00:38:32.710 --> 00:38:34.600
absolute guide of what it takes to be

00:38:34.600 --> 00:38:40.270
consistent so I I kind of already

00:38:40.270 --> 00:38:41.980
answered his last question about golfers

00:38:41.980 --> 00:38:44.859
who can't left tilt during stiff due to

00:38:44.859 --> 00:38:46.900
stiffness but he did have asked about

00:38:46.900 --> 00:38:49.660
what about early extension ice basically

00:38:49.660 --> 00:38:52.930
okay so if I can't left till we're sorry

00:38:52.930 --> 00:38:55.090
if I can't write tilt then maybe I can

00:38:55.090 --> 00:38:59.410
early extend in order to create some of

00:38:59.410 --> 00:39:02.980
the shallowness well I'm not a big fan

00:39:02.980 --> 00:39:04.750
of coaching early extension at any level

00:39:04.750 --> 00:39:06.640
if you're going if you need to be taller

00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:08.000
to be shallower then

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:10.070
would recommend starting taller to begin

00:39:10.070 --> 00:39:13.430
with for my older golfers I think that

00:39:13.430 --> 00:39:15.680
the bigger combination is getting more

00:39:15.680 --> 00:39:21.500
of a cast pattern so getting that arm to

00:39:21.500 --> 00:39:23.030
straighten a little bit sooner and

00:39:23.030 --> 00:39:25.550
timing that with the right amount of

00:39:25.550 --> 00:39:27.770
lunge and the right amount of upper body

00:39:27.770 --> 00:39:30.170
position so I do a lot of upper body

00:39:30.170 --> 00:39:32.290
location training making sure that

00:39:32.290 --> 00:39:34.700
they're pretty accurate with where that

00:39:34.700 --> 00:39:36.980
is and I do a lot of rhythm training and

00:39:36.980 --> 00:39:39.890
I still do a lot of the motorcycle

00:39:39.890 --> 00:39:41.630
training it's just a little bit more arm

00:39:41.630 --> 00:39:47.660
driven instead of more body driven okay

00:39:47.660 --> 00:39:52.430
question from Joseph when he's working

00:39:52.430 --> 00:39:54.350
on the motorcycle he says when he I kind

00:39:54.350 --> 00:39:58.580
of do it too quickly and so basically

00:39:58.580 --> 00:40:00.770
what he's asking is when he's doing the

00:40:00.770 --> 00:40:03.320
motorcycle he kind of does it really

00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:06.530
aggressively at the top and what ends up

00:40:06.530 --> 00:40:09.140
happening is it goes a little bit steep

00:40:09.140 --> 00:40:10.640
like this so he tends to hit more of

00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:14.810
kind of steep and chunky poles what I

00:40:14.810 --> 00:40:16.940
would say there is really monitored the

00:40:16.940 --> 00:40:18.770
grip pressure especially in that trail

00:40:18.770 --> 00:40:23.390
hand and work a little bit more on the

00:40:23.390 --> 00:40:25.940
owner deviation or getting the club to

00:40:25.940 --> 00:40:29.390
shallow out this way while you're doing

00:40:29.390 --> 00:40:31.700
it what can what can happen is if you

00:40:31.700 --> 00:40:33.830
just focus on that motorcycle movement

00:40:33.830 --> 00:40:35.720
the pass starts to get too steep and

00:40:35.720 --> 00:40:38.660
then you have some of what he described

00:40:38.660 --> 00:40:40.190
as toe contact you have some of these

00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:42.650
predictable miss patterns that happen

00:40:42.650 --> 00:40:44.870
from more of a steepness not from a

00:40:44.870 --> 00:40:48.500
motorcycle thing he asked when does the

00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:51.920
lead wrist go into supination so on the

00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:54.140
3d graphs the lead wrist will start

00:40:54.140 --> 00:40:57.080
going into supination right around chef

00:40:57.080 --> 00:41:00.050
45 so kind of right about here is where

00:41:00.050 --> 00:41:04.040
the wrist starts to supinate and the

00:41:04.040 --> 00:41:06.680
neat thing is it as it's going in

00:41:06.680 --> 00:41:08.420
transition so through here it's

00:41:08.420 --> 00:41:10.940
pronating so that I can start supinating

00:41:10.940 --> 00:41:13.190
without having the club follow it

00:41:13.190 --> 00:41:15.800
initially so it kind of ramps up it's

00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:16.369
not really

00:41:16.369 --> 00:41:19.099
explosion the explosive action but it

00:41:19.099 --> 00:41:21.759
starts right about here and it all in

00:41:21.759 --> 00:41:24.230
basically at the end of the release

00:41:24.230 --> 00:41:27.880
roughly shaft parallel to the ground

00:41:27.970 --> 00:41:31.369
here's the last question um how does the

00:41:31.369 --> 00:41:35.329
trail wrist go into extension from p2 to

00:41:35.329 --> 00:41:37.220
the top of the swing and make it more

00:41:37.220 --> 00:41:40.640
vertical not behind well when we look at

00:41:40.640 --> 00:41:44.269
how the wrists are on the club that

00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:47.240
trail wrist is not truly on the side of

00:41:47.240 --> 00:41:49.130
the club it's a little bit more on top

00:41:49.130 --> 00:41:51.529
so when I extend the wrist especially if

00:41:51.529 --> 00:41:54.140
I add radial deviation at the same time

00:41:54.140 --> 00:41:56.990
that will tend to move the club more up

00:41:56.990 --> 00:41:59.480
in line with the forearm as opposed to

00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:02.539
around this way to get it more around

00:42:02.539 --> 00:42:05.589
this way you'll see in addition to

00:42:05.589 --> 00:42:08.420
extension I also had to do a fair amount

00:42:08.420 --> 00:42:12.980
of rotation right so working on that

00:42:12.980 --> 00:42:17.390
trail wrist to extend wall radial

00:42:17.390 --> 00:42:20.950
deviating will help make it more

00:42:20.950 --> 00:42:24.319
vertical as opposed to extension and

00:42:24.319 --> 00:42:26.690
letting that shoulder rotate or letting

00:42:26.690 --> 00:42:28.789
that lead arm come away too much which

00:42:28.789 --> 00:42:30.069
would make it a little bit more

00:42:30.069 --> 00:42:34.039
horizontally the key there is that if

00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:36.349
you get it more vertical so if you're

00:42:36.349 --> 00:42:39.259
across the line exaggerated if I'm

00:42:39.259 --> 00:42:41.390
really across the line and I really have

00:42:41.390 --> 00:42:44.299
to shallow the more that I get it in

00:42:44.299 --> 00:42:45.950
that horizontal position more like a

00:42:45.950 --> 00:42:48.259
John Rama I don't have to shallow quite

00:42:48.259 --> 00:42:53.150
as aggressively or as long so just

00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:56.509
making sure that you're utilizing radial

00:42:56.509 --> 00:42:59.239
deviation while you're going into

00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:00.470
extension because those are kind of

00:43:00.470 --> 00:43:02.539
couple motions and making sure that it's

00:43:02.539 --> 00:43:08.089
not rotating too much supination will

00:43:08.089 --> 00:43:11.630
prevent it from getting too flat at the

00:43:11.630 --> 00:43:17.289
top or too flat or more around you okay

00:43:17.380 --> 00:43:20.269
come back to that one I see another live

00:43:20.269 --> 00:43:22.880
question Craig where should you where do

00:43:22.880 --> 00:43:26.140
I like to see the clubface at p2

00:43:26.140 --> 00:43:28.029
at P six shouldn't match the spine angle

00:43:28.029 --> 00:43:34.289
or both at both positions um I'm a lot

00:43:34.289 --> 00:43:37.960
as far as p2 goes I'm definitely like I

00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:41.859
look at the ranges and where it is it p2

00:43:41.859 --> 00:43:45.339
is you can be anywhere from what's a

00:43:45.339 --> 00:43:47.680
vertical the spine angle and I guess I

00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:49.119
would say that's pretty close to the

00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.359
same @ p6 anywhere from vertical to

00:43:52.359 --> 00:43:54.819
spine angle the the key thing is

00:43:54.819 --> 00:43:56.890
understanding the relationship of okay

00:43:56.890 --> 00:43:58.720
the more closed it is the more that I

00:43:58.720 --> 00:44:02.470
could body rotate and wipe so the more I

00:44:02.470 --> 00:44:04.390
could potentially take the hands out of

00:44:04.390 --> 00:44:07.690
it the the more vertical it is the more

00:44:07.690 --> 00:44:10.299
I'm still going to have to continue that

00:44:10.299 --> 00:44:13.180
motorcycle late and some guys especially

00:44:13.180 --> 00:44:15.579
if you have a lot of tension if you

00:44:15.579 --> 00:44:18.640
create a lot of arm tension and really

00:44:18.640 --> 00:44:20.470
grip the club down at the bottom it's

00:44:20.470 --> 00:44:22.990
very hard to have the continued rotation

00:44:22.990 --> 00:44:25.420
so if you know that you have a

00:44:25.420 --> 00:44:27.220
constitution where you're more you're

00:44:27.220 --> 00:44:29.289
really gonna hold on on the way through

00:44:29.289 --> 00:44:32.049
and tighten those arms then I would

00:44:32.049 --> 00:44:34.150
probably try to get it a little bit more

00:44:34.150 --> 00:44:40.960
close to spine angle if you have some

00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:42.910
softness in your arms you can you have a

00:44:42.910 --> 00:44:44.500
little bit more flexibility you can do

00:44:44.500 --> 00:44:46.930
either/or now that being said with if

00:44:46.930 --> 00:44:49.630
we're now talking short irons wedges I

00:44:49.630 --> 00:44:51.400
would like to see it closer to toe

00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:53.500
vertical if you're looking at more

00:44:53.500 --> 00:44:55.299
driver or long irons I would like to see

00:44:55.299 --> 00:44:57.549
it closer to the spine angle but it's

00:44:57.549 --> 00:45:00.789
more matching relative pieces rather

00:45:00.789 --> 00:45:02.470
than an absolute look that you're trying

00:45:02.470 --> 00:45:08.619
to Train okay last one but quick one on

00:45:08.619 --> 00:45:11.230
here is there an archive I believe that

00:45:11.230 --> 00:45:13.059
they're linked on YouTube for those on

00:45:13.059 --> 00:45:16.359
the site I am going to copy them over

00:45:16.359 --> 00:45:18.130
and create a playlist of all the

00:45:18.130 --> 00:45:21.339
archived q nays so that way you can

00:45:21.339 --> 00:45:22.690
check out all the ones that I've done in

00:45:22.690 --> 00:45:26.619
the past okay Jim had a last minute

00:45:26.619 --> 00:45:29.650
question he emailed right before about

00:45:29.650 --> 00:45:32.529
the right arm what is the right arm do

00:45:32.529 --> 00:45:34.180
in the backswing in the downswing

00:45:34.180 --> 00:45:37.930
specifically the right wrist so he he

00:45:37.930 --> 00:45:39.910
really good success working on the

00:45:39.910 --> 00:45:42.700
motorcycle and the wipe combo but then

00:45:42.700 --> 00:45:44.130
he was getting a little bit of a steep

00:45:44.130 --> 00:45:46.960
steeper miss pattern so we started to

00:45:46.960 --> 00:45:48.700
try to introduce some older deviation

00:45:48.700 --> 00:45:51.400
and in getting that ulnar deviation we

00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:53.650
were losing what's going on at the trail

00:45:53.650 --> 00:45:56.829
risk so in that last question I kind of

00:45:56.829 --> 00:45:59.589
described some of what's going on where

00:45:59.589 --> 00:46:02.579
basically that right wrist is going to

00:46:02.579 --> 00:46:05.349
extend and radial deviate and it'll feel

00:46:05.349 --> 00:46:07.650
like it goes into some pronation as well

00:46:07.650 --> 00:46:09.940
as long as the shoulder is then

00:46:09.940 --> 00:46:12.609
externally rotated that combo doesn't

00:46:12.609 --> 00:46:17.470
put it across the line where if I don't

00:46:17.470 --> 00:46:20.380
it radial deviate and if I supinate but

00:46:20.380 --> 00:46:22.869
then I really let my elbow go that's

00:46:22.869 --> 00:46:24.730
actually the more common pattern for

00:46:24.730 --> 00:46:27.700
getting across the line so I'm rotating

00:46:27.700 --> 00:46:30.250
kind of like that with some good radial

00:46:30.250 --> 00:46:33.430
deviation then down through impact down

00:46:33.430 --> 00:46:36.210
at the bottom is the trickier zone

00:46:36.210 --> 00:46:39.130
through early part of transition or

00:46:39.130 --> 00:46:43.000
sorry mid kind of late transition before

00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.690
you get into the release it's going to

00:46:45.690 --> 00:46:49.299
increase that extension radial deviation

00:46:49.299 --> 00:46:51.430
and extension so it's gonna have that

00:46:51.430 --> 00:46:54.190
little white look and then in order to

00:46:54.190 --> 00:46:57.609
not bottom out and lose it lose that

00:46:57.609 --> 00:47:00.490
extension and basically lose your low

00:47:00.490 --> 00:47:03.309
point control one of the big keys is

00:47:03.309 --> 00:47:05.829
making sure that the extension of the

00:47:05.829 --> 00:47:08.980
wrist is maintained it feels like it's

00:47:08.980 --> 00:47:11.190
maintained all the way through impact

00:47:11.190 --> 00:47:14.559
but in practicality what'll happen is

00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.690
with the speed and the bracing you'll

00:47:16.690 --> 00:47:20.109
lose that wrister impact but what I find

00:47:20.109 --> 00:47:22.210
is golfer is trying to lose that wrist

00:47:22.210 --> 00:47:24.339
tend to have low point control issues

00:47:24.339 --> 00:47:26.309
where golfer is trying to maintain that

00:47:26.309 --> 00:47:30.849
extension and have more of the rotation

00:47:30.849 --> 00:47:33.160
of the arm as opposed to more of kind of

00:47:33.160 --> 00:47:35.579
a an attempt to hold it off like this

00:47:35.579 --> 00:47:38.170
tend to have better low point control

00:47:38.170 --> 00:47:39.670
they can get the low point forward with

00:47:39.670 --> 00:47:42.430
a little bit more shallower contact so

00:47:42.430 --> 00:47:44.890
they can get shaft lean without a steep

00:47:44.890 --> 00:47:47.450
angle of attack which is one

00:47:47.450 --> 00:47:51.080
key differentiators therefore you know

00:47:51.080 --> 00:47:56.840
good right arm mechanics okay so we just

00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:59.750
crossed kind of the 45 minute so that's

00:47:59.750 --> 00:48:00.950
kind of where I like to cap these so

00:48:00.950 --> 00:48:02.570
they're not too long

00:48:02.570 --> 00:48:05.330
enjoy the rest of March Madness and the

00:48:05.330 --> 00:48:07.280
Masters coming up in two weeks is a fun

00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:09.770
time for sports if you have any

00:48:09.770 --> 00:48:12.710
questions and that either my comments

00:48:12.710 --> 00:48:15.020
here triggered or that somehow I missed

00:48:15.020 --> 00:48:18.020
and I didn't answer please shoot me an

00:48:18.020 --> 00:48:20.210
email at support at golf smart

00:48:20.210 --> 00:48:21.340
academy.com

00:48:21.340 --> 00:48:25.880
if you haven't checked it out this is

00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:29.090
the the book that a couple of the

00:48:29.090 --> 00:48:32.120
comments were referencing published in

00:48:32.120 --> 00:48:36.080
the fall covers a lot of the overview of

00:48:36.080 --> 00:48:38.750
how I think my system works together and

00:48:38.750 --> 00:48:40.220
then if you're looking for more details

00:48:40.220 --> 00:48:42.800
on any of the movements or the drills

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.340
head over to golf smart academy.com

00:48:45.340 --> 00:48:47.750
please hopefully share this with your

00:48:47.750 --> 00:48:50.150
friends and yeah if you have any

00:48:50.150 --> 00:48:51.620
questions shoot them to me I enjoy doing

00:48:51.620 --> 00:48:53.750
these and we'll we'll get one scheduled

00:48:53.750 --> 00:48:56.420
here in the new future so thanks again

00:48:56.420 --> 00:49:00.830
for tuning in and enjoy your transition

00:49:00.830 --> 00:49:03.670
into the golf season

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