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Cast Overview

The cast is an upper body dominant move which results in the following characteristics:

  • Spin with upper body and limited use of lower body
  • Apply force with arms and hands only and early in transition
  • Typical for athletes from other sports
  • Outside to inside swing path loses distance (golf digest article - "Add 42 yards now")
  • Force applied early in the downswing with the arms instead of letting it build gradually

The cast or upper body dominant swing pattern is one of the most prevalent among higher handicap golfers. A cast happens when the upper body spins to fast, soo soon and dominates transition. This spinning action creates a force that helps propel the arms, hands, and club outward.  On 3D I will typically see an early straightening of the trail arm, or an early flexing of the trail wrist.  There is also a distinct look to the kinematic sequence for casters.

An athletic move

When it comes to spinning, some athletes have it all figured out. One of the best examples is figure skaters. They build a lot of speed, and then when they want to spin faster, they pull their arms in close. When you let the club head (not your hands in golf) gets far away from you, it’s like the figure skater letting his or her arms go out. This movement SLOWS down rotation. In the golf swing, the timing of when you want the club to get away from you, is through impact.

As you work on impact and follow through, you can start working on the overall feel of the swing which is being narrow in transition, and wide in the follow through. If you are used to playing sports that require a lot of strength, this narrow position will probably feel weak, so initially, you will have to rely on how it looks in your video instead of how it feels in your swing.

Short game

A cast is not necessarily bad, unless it is used at the wrong time. The idea time to use a cast sequence is for the short game.  If you are a good wedge player, but struggle with distance or with the longer clubs, then there is a good chance that you swing the golf club with a cast or upper body dominant swing pattern.

Playlists: Fix Your Cast, STS - Faults and Fixes

Tags: Cast, Concept, Beginner

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In this concept video, we're going to take a look at the cast or the upper body dominance

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swing pattern.

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Now the cast or upper body dominance swing pattern is really a transition air, but sometimes

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if it's subtle, you won't see the evidence of the cast until down in the release.

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But overall, it's a transition air, and what it is is getting your upper body too active

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too soon.

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So if we were to break down your body into thirds, say the hips in the lower body, and then

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the trunk in the core, and then the shoulders and arms, we want to control and create

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our speed from a blend of all three of these.

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The cast pattern is getting speed primarily from the shoulders and the arms early during

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the downswing.

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It shows up pretty easy on 3D.

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It typically looks like the club sensor or the club shaft is moving faster than the rest

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of the body pretty early in the downswing.

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On video, if you see someone who's doing it in more of an exaggerated fashion, what

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will typically look for is a straightening of the trail elbow or a flexion of the trail

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wrist going this way, or an early rotation of the upper body compared to the lower

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In general, that tends to look like something like this.

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The arms kind of getting active too soon, or it could be more like this where the upper

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body is rotating on top of the lower body and the lower body is not really leading the

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Either way, it gets the club moving faster than your body, so it tends to limit your ability

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to create speed.

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Typically golfers who cast can have pretty good short games, but they'll struggle off

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the tee.

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As you'll see in the analysis video, there are a few pros who do it.

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There's even a long drive guy who does it very well.

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But all in all, it tends to be more of a weak controlled pattern as opposed to a maximum

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power generation pattern.

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Now often, the cast is accompanied by something that we call a forward lunge, and you'll

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start to see why these two kind of go hand in hand.

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With the cast pattern, I'm going to get this club head far away from me sooner than if I had

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a normal tour sequence that we tried a tee tier.

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So if I was to get that club away from me, and I did all the other good movements that

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a tour pro would do, I'm typically going to have the club bottom out.

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So the forward lunge is a lack of right side bend and a shift of the upper body kind of

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towards the target kind of like so.

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I'll tend to have my upper body very much on top of my lower body and have a little

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amount of side tilt.

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This prevents me from hitting the ground behind the ball, but it tends to give me a steep

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angle of attack and a very small flat spot.

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So this can result in a lot of problems with your long irons, your hybrids, and particularly

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the driver.

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Since the cast is a downswing problem, we know that it relates to how we're controlling

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path, how we're controlling face, and how we're creating speed.

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Typically, as I mentioned earlier in this video, it is going to be an upper body dominated

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power producer.

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So as opposed to getting that initial movement happening from the lower body, I will

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tend to have the initial movement happening more from the upper body kind of like so.

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So one of the ways that you can work on it is by learning to get your lower body to initiate

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and learning to get the feeling of more speed from the lower body.

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Typically, this results in a feeling of a later tempo or typically a smoother swing.

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Now from a face and path perspective, the cast is pretty interesting.

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Typically, what's going on in a cast pattern is you are going to have an open clubface

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that you tend to keep open and you use the cast in order to get the club to go to the left

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or rather to get the path to go to the left so that this open clubface is now pointed

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at the target.

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It is possible to have my body closed enough so that this cast brings it from the inside

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and I can still hit a draw.

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So typically, casters are going to struggle with drawing them all, they'll typically hit

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poles or slight fades unless they're hitting down as they would wish short arms.

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So typically, the way that that's going to look is there my clubface is kind of in an open

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And now if I was too cast by spinning my upper body and straightening my arms kind of

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like so, you can see that I can get that clubface that is open to the path facing at the

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target by taking this path and moving it a little bit more outside to end.

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That's typically that upper body spin or that upper body dominated pattern.

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Now from a face perspective, getting the club to extend out away from me causes the club

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face to actually want to close.

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The more that I have this club in a lag position or the more that my hands are leading

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the club head, it will tend to force that face open unless I'm doing the motorcycle move,

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which we teach in the transition session.

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So by having that clubface open, if I could either do the motorcycle move to close it or

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I could cast and release that arm.

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And when I release that arm, now the clubface is pointing the direction of the target,

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but I did so with a very vertical shaft as opposed to in the full swing stock program where

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we're trying to have a little bit of shaft lean that would result in an open clubface

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unless I was to close it using this rotation.

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So a castor is typically using the whole shaft to square the clubface instead of just

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shaft rotation to square the clubface.

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If you're going to work on the cast pattern, as you'll see in the drills, there are three

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primary areas that you'll need to improve on.

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One will be getting your arms to lag a little bit and getting the club to be narrow in

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Two will be getting the club to shallow in transition slightly different way because

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the cast pattern gets the club out of way for me.

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So it creates more of a shallow angle of attack just from the simple fact that I'm getting

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my arms away from me.

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Now it's a little tricky because typically that's accompanied with a deep upper body movement

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so those two balance out.

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So if I'm going to take away the shallow, I need to add a shallow in a different way.

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Lastly, the thing that I'm going to have to do that's probably going to feel the most

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uncomfortable is I'm going to have to create the early part of the downswing speed

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from my lower body and my trunk and my core as opposed to you from my shoulder blades,

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my shoulders and my arms.

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So let's go through those one by one.

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First let's talk about this narrow.

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So if I go up to the top of my swing, the cast pattern tends to get wide very early from the top

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of the swing.

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So the opposite of that would be as my lower body is leading if my arms were to get narrow as we

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teach in the transition sequence and as you'll see in this cast section that allows my body

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to rotate inside then without having my arms extend and bottom out behind the golf ball.

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As a result, my arms will extend a little bit later than in the cast pattern and help me

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produce this more shallow angle of attack with a long flat spot.

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The second piece would be looking at the shallowing component.

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So the shallowing component would be letting my arms fall as a result of my lower body

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leading the golf swing.

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So we talk a lot about those hands staying high and letting this club kind of shallow,

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where a castor will typically shallow by getting the club away from me as opposed to getting

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the swing path of the arms a little bit more horizontal.

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So that's one of the other challenges and then the last one is the general sequencing of learning

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to get that lower body to initiate the downswing.

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Now if you've played sports where it was a reward to be kind of upper body dominant, say you were

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alignment in football or wrestler, something where you did a lot with moving your upper body

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in big movements, this is going to be a little bit of a challenge.

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If you played other sports such as striking sports like tennis, baseball, hockey, lacrosse,

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or if you played lower body dominant sports like soccer, this will tend to feel a little bit more

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athletic and it'll actually be reminiscent of how you use athleticism in those other sports.

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And typically what you'll have to do is remove the barrier of how you control the face and path

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to allow you to be more aggressive with the lower body or to be more athletic and initiate with the

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lower body. So the cast pattern is a great pattern to keep because you want to use it for

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your finesse wedges, your distance wedges, but if you're using it for your stock full swing,

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it's definitely limiting your distance and power potential.

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