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Analysis - Examples of What Shallows The Downswing

In this analysis videos we explore the common downswing strategies for shallowing the path of the club head. The common tour strategy is early shallowing with the arm movements instead of the body. This allows the body to make steeper movements in transition. The steep movements in transition are better designed for creating speed.

Tags: Transition, Analysis, Concept, Intermediate

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In this analysis video, we're going to take a look at shallowing the club and the different methods that pros and

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amateurs use to shallow the club. Now to start, we're going to take a look at Charles Barkley.

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Charles is unique in that he has almost no shallowing movement in transition, which is part of what's given him his flinch.

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If you look over on the right, you'll see he gets where the club is practically vertical and there's virtually nothing he can do,

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so he stops and then through the release he adds no more steepening moves in all shallow moves.

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It's a much better idea to have a general blend of this steepening and shallowing movement.

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For a quick idea of what we're going to cover in this video, the major shallowing movements

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are going to come from either the arms or the body. If they come from the arms,

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it's going to be the arms moving to the right of the body, rotating to the right,

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where away from the target, or the arms straightening. From the body, the major shallowing movements are going to be

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standing up or going into extension, side bending to the right, or limiting your body rotation.

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So keep those in mind as we look through these different shallowing strategies. So now if we jump back to

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Charles, we can see that during transition, his body flexes. It doesn't really side bend to the right.

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And he rotates a bit. You can see his lower body and upper body rotating. So he adds all three

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steepeners from the body. You can also see that the arms rotate a little bit to the left.

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The arms work more out in front of his chest. They don't fall behind his body,

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but there is an attun of trail arm straightening. So if the six possible shallowing methods,

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he uses five of them and he gets into a position where it's virtually impossible for him to continue

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his body doing anything except for stand up, which shallows it, extend that arm, which shallows it,

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limit rotation, which also shallows it. So hopefully you can come up with a better strategy for

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shallowing out your swing than the one that Charles has used to create one of the worst golf swings

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in recent history. Now for the format of this video, we're going to rapid fire look through

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different swings and someone categorized their different shallowing movements. So over on the left,

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you'll see that Adam Scott's upper body flexes slightly forward so you can see that his head is

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dropping just a little bit. His chest is getting closer to the golf ball and he's rotating. So by

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definition in order to have the club pointed in the general direction of the golf ball,

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his arms must be shallowing since his body is steepening. So now if you look subtly,

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if you look at his lead arm, you can see that his lead arm is rotating away from the target

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or to the right and you can see that compared to where his arms are here, where there is hands

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are roughly in front of his chest, you can see that as he starts going down, because of this left arm

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really working across his body that's moved it more to the right of his body. So he's steepened

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with his body and he's shallowed with his arms. Over here on the right, we have Graham McDowell.

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You can see the upper body flexing as the body rotates so he has that same pattern of

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steepening with his body and you'll see a very pronounced shallowing movement with the left arm.

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You can see that the right arm and the right elbow is actually going into external rotation

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that elbows almost working a little bit behind him, but you can see that the club is following

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the movements of the left arm not the movements of the right arm. So while his body is steepening,

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he's rotating his arms to the right and moving them off towards the right of his body.

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Those are both shalloweres. So both of these two exhibit the classic,

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kind of stock-tourswing model, where they are steepening with their body during transition

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and shallowing with the arms. So now on the right, we have Kevin Stabler on the left, we have John

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Daly. Every swing is going to give us a little bit more understanding of this global shallowing concept.

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So you can see that as he starts down, there's a fair amount of rotation of that lead arm.

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So looking at those two segments there, you'll see that they start rotating more towards

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pointing up towards the sky than pointing vertically. So there's a fair amount of shallowing there.

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And you can see that his right arm is actually an esteepening move, but his right hand is actually

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coming off of the club because he's controlling it largely with that lead hand. His other shallowing

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movement is he's controlling the amount of rotation. So if we got him in this position here and we had

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him rotate as much as say and Adam Scott, the club, if his arms stayed in the same relationship

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to his body would actually be out here, which would be more of a steepening movement. So he's

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shallowing with his arms, but he's also not steepening quite as much with his body. So now John Daly

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will see a powerful pulling motion of the arms, which is actually more of a steepening movement.

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So you can see as he gets in here, he's still kind of in that could be dangerous as far as being

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too steep for the longer clubs, but then you'll see right through there. He's now doing more of a

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shallow with his body backing up or his upper body kind of extending away as his arms are now

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doing more of the right rotation. So you'll see that he's shallowing a little bit more a little bit

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later, but as long as he's done it before he gets down into that delivery zone he'll be fine.

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So now on the left we have Jim Furik. We'll see that he didn't rotate a ton with his body in the

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in the backswing. So that is a lack of a shallow movement, but you'll see that he has a tremendous

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arm-shallowing move in transition. You can see that that arm is completely across his chest.

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It was arms are to the right of his body, but they've still rotated to the right. So that's a

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fair amount of shallowing and you'll see as a result his upper body can actually stay relatively

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close to the golf ball and rotate because those are both steepening movements. So now he's in a very

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good delivery position to apply a blend in a balanced release. We'll cover that in other videos.

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So then here we have John Senden. John Senden is a little bit more of an upper body pull.

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And so you'll see that because the upper body pulling and the arm's steepening is part of his

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power source, you'll see that his upper body tends to move away from the golf ball. He tends to

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stall that rotation and straighten that right arm. So his major shallowing movements are the upper

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body moving away and that right arm's straightening a little bit fuller with the driver than someone who

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has more of a gradual blend of the shallowing movements. It should be noted that from those who

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have ever watched John Senden play, he's a tremendous ball striker, but he swings well within himself.

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He never looks like he's swinging hard. He swings with full control. If you have a hard time

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getting more of your arms to shallow and body to steep in, he is a great model to look at,

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but understand that you will never be able to swing really hard without having control issues off the

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tee. So on the left we have Lee Westwood on the right we'll look at Bill Hoss. So Lee Westwood

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has a very pronounced upper body kind of crunch move. So he has steepening movements there,

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but you can see that Lee Darm is rotating as he goes into that transition move to get more facing

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in the sky and remember by definition, if the club is on a shallower path. So here it is in the

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backswing if it's on a shallower path, but his body has flex forward and rotated to the left.

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That means that the arms had to have done the shallowing movement in order for the club to not

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steep it. So he doesn't do as much of the arms working across his body. He does it more with the arms

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rotating, which helps him shallow it out. Bill Hoss is an interesting one where as he gets towards

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the top of the swing he is very pronounced upper body early extension move. So the upper body works

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away from the golf ball. That's a major shallower. Most people who do that would also

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extend the spine and stand up, but he actually flexes slightly forward. So he stays down

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even though he's moving his whole body away from the golf ball. So that requires some body timing,

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but he's very good with that and it doesn't require that he makes as big a shallowing movement

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with the arms. He doesn't have a lot of the arm rotation. You can see that the back of the left hand

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isn't really working more so that it's pointed up towards the sky. It's actually saying

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pretty much the same compared to his body, but he does have a fair amount of the arms working more

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to the right of his body or working across his body. So his major shallowers are going to be

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the upper body moving away and then the arms working more to the right of his body,

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which allows him to then have more of a classic release even though he still has that

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unique movement of his upper body moving away significantly from the top of the swing as a shallowing

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move. So on the left we have Charlie Wee over on the right we have Jeff Ogilby. So Charlie Wee,

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you can see a pretty good shallow movement of rotating that lead arm, but you can see that the

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he doesn't have a ton of a shallowing from the arm staying across his body. They're actually working

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more out in front of his chest. So as a result, he stalled some of his body rotation or limit some

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of his body's rotation to rebalance that back out. So on the right we have Jeff Ogilby.

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You'll see that he is also a little bit more of that arm pull. You'll see the arms are in a

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steepish position. So now he's going to have to add some shallow movements from here in order to

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not have the club slam into the ground. So his major shallow movement is going to be that

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extension of the body working away. So his body moving up this way, pelvis moving in that way,

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ultimately moving all of this away from the golf ball, which helps allow him to get more of a full

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extension of that right arm. He's not too bad. It's the last pretty good sequencing,

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which you see that the major shallowing movements are coming more from that extension and lack of

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rotation than true arm movements. So on the left we have Joe Durant, one of my favorite swings

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and Hunter Mayhand on the right. Joe Durant we can see a very pronounced shallow movement

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from that lead and trail arm. So you can see the back of his left hand facing almost parallel

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to the way our his shoulders are parallel to his spine perpendicular to his shoulders. However you

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want to look at it, that allows him to have a very good amount of late body rotation through the

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shot, which I think helps him with a lot of his consistency. Hunter Mayhand you can see doesn't have a

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ton of the shaft or arm rotation. He gets it more from the arm staying to the right of his body

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or working more to the right of his body. And then because he hasn't had a ton of rotation of

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that lead arm, but the shaft is still shallowing with steep body movements, we know that the only

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thing that could probably be doing it is going to be that right arm. So he gets more of the shallow

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from the arm's working across his body and more of that right arm shallowing as opposed to the

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left arm, but with the body bending forward, rotating, doing mostly steep movements in order to have

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that club in a shallow position here. We know that he had to have done shallow movements from his arms.

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So here we have a couple interesting ones, Kenny Perry and Keegan Bradley on the left. So Keegan

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has a little bit more. He gets some arm rotation, you can see that lead wrist, lead forearm,

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lead shoulder, shelling the club there. But you'll see that his right arm is in a fairly steepish

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position. And so what he ends up doing is he shallows with side bend late. So he's probably in

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more of a steep position right here. And you'll see that he has a fair amount of that right side bend

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coupled with extension. So he's having some major shallow movements through there, which means that in

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order to have the club somewhat on plane, his arm and release pattern is going to be a little

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bit more in the steep category. Over on the right with Kenny Perry, you can see he's got his classic

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loss of posture in the backswing, but then applies really traditional movements during the transition.

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So flexing forward and rotating both steep. You can see that the arm stand at the right of his

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body as they are rotating. So he gets that great combination of shaft plane from steepening the body

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and shallowing out the arms. So over on the left here we have Matt Coacher on the right way of

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Sergio Garcia. With Matt Coacher you can see he is the the Jim Hardy school and the one plane

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school talks about really rotating the arm so the left especially that right arm in transition.

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Now if he were to actually do that we would see the shaft work more and more towards vertical.

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But what you'll see is that he doesn't do that. He's actually shallowing out with his arms because

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his upper body is staying flex forward as it's rotating. Those are both steepeners. So the club should

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steepen a lot based on what his body is doing and what he is described as trying to do with his arms,

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but we can see that he's not actually doing that. His arms are shallowing quite nicely.

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Get him into this classic delivery position and then from there he has a very good release.

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It's no wonder that he's one of the consistent solid iron players solid ball strikers.

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Now Sergio Garcia has his trademark kind of shallowing movement where he has a fair amount of

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that forearm rotation. So if you look at his elbow you can see that not a ton of the rotation is

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happening from the elbow. So he's having a very big shallow movement from the forearms.

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He has the same upper body flexing forward as it's rotating. So those are both steepening movements.

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But in the arms disconnect from his chest a little bit earlier in the downswing which is also

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a steepening movement. But because of the forearm rotation he's able to get the club in an

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overall shallow path. Now looking at a couple of the legends you we have been hogan and jacknickless.

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So been hogan on the left. You can see that his arms are well across his body so he's kind of

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pre-shallowing and they're already rotated a fair amount. So he's pre-shallowing some of the movements

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of his arms. But you can see in transition he still has some shallowing movement especially from

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that lead arm. Back in the hand the blur is getting more and more facing the sky.

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And at the same time you'll see that his upper body is flexing slightly forward as it's rotating.

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So in order to get into a position like this where the club is coming more along that right forearm

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plane there had to be some some shallowing movements from the shoulders if the body stayed

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flex forward and rotate it or flex more forward and rotated because those are both steepening

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movements. And then over here on the right we'll see who I think had one of the best shallowing

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movements in the game. You can see that those arms really shallow early and a good bit.

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And that allows his body to rotate and to to get into a very similar looking delivery position

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to what Ben Hogan wasn't. Even a little bit more flexed forward which means that his shoulders

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and his arms by definition had to have had more of a steepening movement or more of a shallowing

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movement to balance out that extra steep. So now as we take a look at a handful of amateurs you'll see

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a different rates in different combinations. So over on the left you'll see that the body movements

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are fairly similar where the body staying flexed and rotating but the club is in a totally

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different position because the arms have not shallowed and so because the arms did not shallow,

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they didn't rotate. The club ends up being very vertically and now he has to shallow more during

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this midsection of the downswing instead of during transition.

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Conversely here's a golfer who's shallowing largely with the body. You can see a big

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pronounced shallow movement with the body so then by definition in order to have a club path that's

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not incredibly shallow that means his arms are working in more of a steep fashion. So this is a

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little bit more of that paradoxical where the body is doing most of the shallowing in transition

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and the arms are mostly steep. So now we have a couple examples of good golfers who are just

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slightly steep with the arms in transition. So you'll see that the gentleman on the right

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has the arms to the right of the body but there's not a lot of right rotation so the arms

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aren't shallowing a ton during that rotation move. And so as a result his body has to stall a little

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bit and go into more of an extension pattern late during the release which gets the path.

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Having a tendency of working too much in doubt here's a golfer who gets more of the shallowing

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movement with the arm working across his body. You can see a fair amount of the arm working across

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his chest but because there wasn't a ton of arm rotation you can see there's a very little arm

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rotation from that lead arm. So as a result he now has to stall and release those arms or the other

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way to look at it would be the brain knows that it wants to stall and release those arms to square

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the club face and so shallowing the club would open the face more than he would want for that release

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pattern. So what you do in transition and what you do in release often go hand in hand. Part of the

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reason why torporos are able to make this great shallowing movement during transition is because they

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have such a clean balance of the steepest in shallows during the release. So a very good wipe

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very good early club face closing, very good timing of the arm extension. Those two go hand in hand

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hopefully this video helps you visualize some of the ways that you may be organizing the steepest

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in shallows to analyze it, look at it from down the line, look at it top of the swing and then

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look at it when the club is about parallel. If when the club is about parallel if the club is

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well inside or well outside, well inside would be more of a shallow pattern, well outside would be more

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of a steep pattern and then you can isolate the different or look at the different body parts to see

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which one might be contributing. As a quick refresher the major shallow movements are going to be

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right rotation of the arms, moving your arms to the right of your body which is known as

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horizontal adduction of the left shoulder or straightening the arms. Straightening the arms is one of

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the common ways that amateur shallow the club very late. From the body's perspective, the shallowing

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movements are going to be extension or standing up, limiting your body's rotation or right side bend.

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Figuring out your combination of steepest in shallows will ultimately help you understand

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the overall pattern of your golf swing and what you need to work on and when you need to work on balancing.

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