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hi I'm Tyler Farrell with golf smart

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Academy this webinar I'm going to

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present the presentation that I gave at

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the world golf fitness summit in October

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of 2016 in New Orleans the topic is

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looking at the 3d differences between

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the driver and the iron swing basically

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addressing the question is there one

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swing that you can use throughout the

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bag or do you need to make adjustments

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to your swing other than just set up

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when you're going from say a driver to a

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short iron now in this presentation I'm

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gonna break it down into two different

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parts in the first part we're gonna look

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at a bunch of 3d graphs so if you're a

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golf coach or just a 3d golf nerd and

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you want to see some of the data behind

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the concepts that I tend to teach I'm

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going to present that for about 15

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minutes or so if you want to just jump

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to the end you know if you're not really

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into the 3d space and you really just

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want to jump to the end and see some of

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the before-and-afters and look at more

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2d video practical applications I think

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that that's fine I'll put a little link

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here where you can jump right to when we

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start looking at golf swings instead of

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looking at 3d graphs so I'll show you

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how understanding some of the

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differences between driver and iron can

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help you make changes so this was one

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individual lesson who basically by

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understanding a different pivot concept

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was able to completely change his

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release and ball flight and then I have

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another example where we'll go through a

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golfer who was driving the ball really

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well but struggling with his iron play

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because of what I've what I've noticed

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with both my students as well as myself

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is it's rare that you have the best

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driver day and the best iron day on the

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same day so in this the rest of this

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presentation we're gonna take a look at

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why that might be the case before I get

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into the data I interviewed a number of

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coaches trying to figure out what they

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thought might be the difference between

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the driver swing and the iron swing now

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some coaches continue to stress that

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there's no difference it's just setup

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but many golf instructors focus on the

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axis tilt or

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the position of the body and what

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changes during the swing with a driver

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and during the night with an iron other

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coaches tend to focus more on what the

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goals are so with a driver you're trying

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to hit four angles and you're trying to

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maximize distance where with an iron

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you're trying to strike it solidly and

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control trajectory and proximity to the

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whole you know a few biomechanist

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described the driver swing as more of a

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total body activity while the upper the

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iron swing is more of an upper body

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activity let's look at the data and see

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which one of ones of these hypotheses

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the data supports so before we jump into

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the data I want to give a big thank you

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to John Sinclair for providing some of

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these Tour Pro folders I have a lot of

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driver swings but he was able to share

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31 different Tour Pro folders which had

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driver 5-iron a short iron whether it

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was 8-iron threw wedge as well as a

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30-yard pitch shot so I was able to

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analyze some of these patterns and see

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if it was more of a spectrum or see if

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they were the same or where it changed

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and and come up with some theories as to

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why so the first section we're gonna go

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over the kinematic sequence some

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positional changes between the upper and

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lower body and then some movements

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during the release specifically looking

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at supination again in the second half

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of this presentation you can just jump

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ahead and see some case studies of how

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we apply this 3d data because I don't

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necessarily think every golfer out there

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needs to understand the 3d data but if

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you're a coach it can be really helpful

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for helping you think about the movement

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patterns in a more specific way so my

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goal is to present you with the data and

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visuals and let you come up with ways

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that you can teach it I'm not here to

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say that there's one perfect way to

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adjust the swing just because the graphs

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are a little bit different but I want to

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get your brain thinking about the actual

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differences between the two and

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hopefully you can come up with some

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creative ways to get your students to

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make these changes and make it feel as

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seamless or athletic as possible now we

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know that the angle of attack tends to

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change throughout the bag

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we know that with the short iron that's

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going to be somewhat down and with the

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driver it's gonna be flat or even up

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hopefully up if you're trying to

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maximize distance one of the questions

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is that we've kind of served with is is

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this purely a setup change purely a

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equipment change or is there an

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intentional change to how the golfer is

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trying to swing the club

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hopefully the 3d data will shed a little

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light on which of these is the case now

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with the 3d data I took two I took a

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look at a number of different parameters

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but in this presentation because I was

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limited to 45 minutes I focused on the

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kinematic sequence changes the axis tilt

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changes which would be we'll look at the

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differences in the sway graphs and then

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the lead wrist looking at supination but

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as you can see if you want to pause this

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slide you can see that there were

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changes in what the body did in how the

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club worked as well as in the arms and

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the legs

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and if you have a good data set you can

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take a look at some of these patterns as

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well and see if your data matches the

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the data that I was looking at

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so the general change in the kinematic

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sequence if you are a if you've looked

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at 3d and you've seen some of these 3d

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graphs you may be familiar with the tool

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on screen we have kind of the standard

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or classic of full swing kinematic

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sequence and then we have the standard

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or classic 30 yard wedge shot the 30

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yard wedge shot has more of a Fanning

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pattern more of a cast pattern where the

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club is moving faster than the arm arm

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moving faster than the torso the torso

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moving faster than the pelvis even

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though the transition sequence is the

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same with the full swing we see more of

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a downswing loading pattern so we see

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more of a lower body moving faster than

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the upper body upper body moving faster

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than the arm arm moving faster than the

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club to help maximize the speed gains

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and to potentially help with a little

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bit of the path requirements for the

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driver the question is is this more of a

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switch where you go from driver and all

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your full swing should look like the top

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graph and then once you get to these

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half shots it switches or

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and more of a spectrum let's take a look

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at some different full-swing graphs to

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help possibly explain that pattern is it

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more of a switch or is it more of a

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spectrum

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the general trend with the kinematic

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sequence was that the driver swing was

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more of a loading pattern and then the

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wedge swing was more of a cast pattern

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so we'll look at a number of different

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examples so you can visualize what I'm

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talking about

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but while while each individual golfer

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kept a little bit of their own signature

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in their own pattern you'll see from

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looking at these graphs that Tour Pros

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do make some subtle shifts to how

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they're applying energy and how they are

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swinging the golf club within full

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swings whether it's a short iron like an

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eight hundred nine iron wedge or a full

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swing with the driver it is not exactly

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the same pattern what was interesting

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was Tour Pros pretty consistently made

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these changes to their swings where

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amateurs usually made the same swing

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with every club in their bag and tended

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to struggle with one end or the other

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depending on which and their pattern

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that are matched so here's how we're

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gonna look at these graphs I'm going to

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put up the driver and the iron version

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and then we're going to just kind of

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eyeball some of these differences I'm

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not gonna throw a ton of numbers at you

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we're just gonna look at the general

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movement patterns now if you've never

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seen a kinematic sequence graph

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basically we have a timeline of the golf

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swing so we have address top of the

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swing impact finish so this is all

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backswing right here is down swing and

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then between these two lines is the

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follow-through when a line is negative

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it's rotating away from the target when

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it's positive it's rotating towards the

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target and what we can see is the red

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line is the pelvis the Green Line is the

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thorax the blue line is the left arm or

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lead arm and then the brown line is the

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club so this particular golfer you can

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see it's lower body change direction

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when it went from negative to positive

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change direction here clearly before the

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upper body then the upper body before

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the arm arm before the club and you can

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see that the red line is above for part

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of the downswing the blue line is above

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for part of the downswing that's more of

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a loading pattern what we see here is

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the when we now look at the wedge swing

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we can see that the red and the green

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kind of change direction together and

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the red is underneath the other graphs

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for the entire downswing we can see that

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the blue and the brown are pretty much

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mirrored on top of each other if I kind

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of toggle back and forth you can see the

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general shift of being less of a load

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and more of a cast when we get to the

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wedge so here's another golfer and in

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this one we'll see primarily a lower

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body or a hip change so we can see the

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red line being well above the green line

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and kind of going first and faster and

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then if we shift we can see that the red

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line is now kind of in with going at

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about the same speed as the other parts

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of the body kind of like so okay here's

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another example of a golfer who makes

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adjustments to both the hips and trunk

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so you can look at that transition

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starting sequence and we can see pretty

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clearly that that red line goes from

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leading the early part of the downswing

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to now just kind of supporting and we

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can see that the the torso kind of

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follows in that same casting pattern as

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well okay so we see that the Tour Pros

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tend to use a similar pattern throughout

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the bag but it's more of a cast

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what about amateurs now amateurs are

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typically going to struggle with one end

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or the other and more often than that

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they struggle with the driver so here's

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a mid handicap golfer with their driver

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and we can see that it's already a cast

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pattern we can see that it's going to be

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difficult to beat or even if it becomes

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more of a cast pattern it's never a

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loading pattern which is part of what's

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required to have the proper angle of

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attack and hit a driver well so we can

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see that yes the lower body does get a

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little bit slower but you can see for

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all in tennis

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most of the swing doesn't really change

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in fact if we compare this is his driver

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this is his wedge we can see that the

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lower body actually has better

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sequencing and starts earlier with the

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wedge than it did with the driver so

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again this is an example of a golfer

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failing to make the changes between a

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driver and a wedge swing

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so this golfer is much better with

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hitting the short irons than he is with

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hitting the driver

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here's another golfer who has a pretty

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clear cast pattern and we can see the

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shift between these two you can see that

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the overall pattern looks about the same

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scales just a little different so the

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graph is kind of jumping around but you

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can see that the pattern between the two

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is pretty close to the same one last

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example

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we've got driver here and wedge here you

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can see that if anything this golfer

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actually struggles with having more of a

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load pattern with the wrists with the

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with the wedge here than he does with

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the driver so he has more of a cast

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pattern with the driver than he does

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with the wedge the wedge he actually

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demonstrates more of the downswing

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loading pattern so this 10 handicap

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tends to struggle a little bit more with

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wedge consistency contact okay so we saw

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that pros made these adjustments to

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their patterns where amateurs typically

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kept the same pattern or in one case

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actually reversed the pattern in the

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wrong direction so looking back at our

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hypotheses we can rule out that the

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swings are identical or at least I'm

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willing to rule out that the swings are

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identical and that it's just ball

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position I think we've built some

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support for the case that it's a total

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body versus an upper body move and I

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think we built some a case for the speed

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versus precision argument but we haven't

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done much to address some of the other

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goals like the angle of attack or the

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axis tilt or sweeper strike so that's

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what we'll look at next when we talk

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more about these positions now this

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image up here is the same

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her hitting a full swing with a sand

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wedge on the right and a driver on the

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left and we can see that there are some

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different looks to these movements we

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can see that the upper body is a little

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bit more on top of the lower body

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there's differences in the extension or

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the width between the upper body and the

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hands and we can see that there's

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differences in the arm straightening now

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again I'm not here to tell you that

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these need to be intentional differences

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but I am going to show you the data that

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shows that you do need to make some

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adjustments if you're gonna have success

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with both clubs what I've what I found

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looking at the general trends is that

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there is a big difference in the sway

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pattern so the sway is the movement of

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the upper body or the lower body either

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towards the target or away from the

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target

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so it's not just a bad thing like a sway

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in the backswing it's just a the term we

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use for the linear movement of the of

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the body in that plane the general

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pattern was that the irons were more

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stacked and the driver had more of a

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tilt away from the target most golfers

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adjusted the thorax while keeping the

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lower body the same but about or a small

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percentage adjusted the pelvis while

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keeping the upper body the same and a

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handful of them changed both so but it

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was about two thirds of the golfers who

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kept the lower body of the pelvis pretty

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consistent and made most of the

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adjustment with the thorax there was a

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difference in both the lift and the

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thrust pattern but when there they were

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aren't as significant so we're not gonna

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look at them in this video okay so this

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golfer is that typical pattern that

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adjusts the thorax this graph is now

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looking at the pelvis sways thrust and

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lifts the pelvis sway is the main graph

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we're gonna look at which is the red

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line so the red line is looking at the

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linear movement of the pelvis towards or

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away from the target when it goes

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negative it's swaying off the ball or

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it's moving away from the target when it

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goes positive it is swaying towards the

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target

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so this golfer had a little bit of a

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weight shift during take away and then

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more of a centered pivot and then

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shifted towards the target in the

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downswing and kind of slid on the way

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through if you look down at the bottom

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of the screen bottom left you can see

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the amount of sway at impact so I have

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all these graphs kind of frozen at that

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point in time

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so between setup and impact this golfer

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shifted 5.4 inches closer to the target

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or the driver now with an 8-iron this

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golfer shifted 5.1 inches so it was a

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little bit less but pretty close and if

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I toggle back and forth you can see the

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overall pattern for the red is pretty

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consistent pretty similar between these

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two now if we look at the upper body

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it's the same graph so we're looking at

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the red line which is the thorax way and

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we'll see a little bit of a shift during

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off the ball during the takeaway and

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then a little bit of a shift towards the

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target during the early part of the

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downswing and then once they've done

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that little shift towards the target

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you'll see with the driver there's a

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pretty significant movement away from

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the target I refer to that movement as

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part of the bracing strategy or how they

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use their body to help stabilize and get

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in the position to deliver the arms in

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the right way so this golfer shifted

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about two and a half inches towards the

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target and then by the end of their

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release so roughly when the club's about

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parallel they're about 1.5 inches away

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from wherever they started but you can

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see that between those two there's a

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pretty consistent movement away from the

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target now here we have that same golfer

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with an iron and we saw that the pelvis

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was about the same we can see that the

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pattern the shape of the red line

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between these two looks pretty similar

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but we can see that some of the

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magnitudes are different so this golfer

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had about the same shift towards the

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target during transition that that

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movement helps create the pressure in

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the lead foot and then during the

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release we can see that this golfer

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didn't shift nearly as much off the ball

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in fact we're sorry' away from the

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target not off the ball so this golfer

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shifted towards the target and then

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when they made contact her about 1.6

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inches closer to the target than where

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they started so because we're comparing

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where they started if a golfer sets up

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with more tilt and gets more behind the

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ball with a driver and then sets up more

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stacked with an iron we're gonna tend to

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see even with that the upper body is

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gonna get more in front of where they

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started with the iron where with the

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driver they're going to work their way

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more behind where they started so even

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though they're starting further away

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they still work more behind with the

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driver

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but this golfer if we toggle back and

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forth we can see the differences even

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though the pattern looks similar we can

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see that this golfer is not shifting

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their upper body nearly as far off or

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away from the target during the release

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and that creates the difference in the

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axis tilt so this golfer had the pelvis

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move about the same amount but the the

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there was a little over a one inch

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difference in where the position of the

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upper body was and that helped create

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the axis still different for the driver

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compared to the short iron now here's a

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second golfer looking at another one of

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the classic patterns of more of the

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thorax adjusters so this golfer actually

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shifted their lower body 3.7 inches with

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both the driver and the iron driver and

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9-iron you can see a very little

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difference in the pattern of the red

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line there's a little difference in the

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pattern of the blue line in green line

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but we're primarily looking at the red

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line for this section so now we can go

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back and forth between the driver and

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the iron and we can see again that

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similar shift so while they shifted

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about the same amount towards the target

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to help apply the pressure into the lead

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foot we can see during the release with

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the driver

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this golfer works about two and a half

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inches or a total of about four or five

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inches away from the target from the

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maximum point there to the maximum point

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there

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and impact is about half an inch further

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away than where he started with a driver

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and then with an iron we can see that he

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goes from about a little less than two

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and a half to right around zero so he

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has about half the amount of shift away

00:19:50.040 --> 00:19:51.480
from the target even though the pelvis

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was in exactly the same position so you

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can see the general slope change as well

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as the magnitude change here's one more

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thorax adjuster because it's the more

00:20:02.970 --> 00:20:04.590
dominant pattern I wanted to show a few

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examples

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so this golfer shifted 7.1 inches

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towards the target with the driver seven

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inches with the 8-iron and again you can

00:20:16.800 --> 00:20:19.380
see a pretty consistent pattern or

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similar looking grass between those two

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that's clearly the same golfer now if we

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look at the adjustment of the upper body

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we can see that there's a pretty big

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difference between the upper body

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now this golfer doesn't get quite as far

00:20:34.260 --> 00:20:36.150
away from the golf ball so this this

00:20:36.150 --> 00:20:38.070
golfer is probably gonna we're sorry'

00:20:38.070 --> 00:20:40.410
away from the target this golfer is

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probably going to have more of a

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downward angle of attack because his

00:20:44.220 --> 00:20:47.910
upper body is still 2.1 inches closer

00:20:47.910 --> 00:20:49.380
than where it started he doesn't really

00:20:49.380 --> 00:20:54.560
have a big shift away from the target

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but with the iron you can see that it's

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less so you can see that this is a more

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of a gradual slope it's not quite as

00:21:02.370 --> 00:21:04.590
sharp and you can see that he finishes

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two and a half inches closer you know

00:21:07.770 --> 00:21:09.990
his lowest peak is two and a half inches

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closer than where he started so that

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upper body is definitely shifting more

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towards the target with the iron than he

00:21:17.130 --> 00:21:20.550
was with the driver while the blue and

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the green stay somewhat consistent

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now there was a small subset of golfers

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who tended to adjust the pelvis instead

00:21:30.570 --> 00:21:32.399
of the upper body so that looks more

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like this with the driver

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this golfer if I just showed you these

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two without us looking at the scale you

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would say that that's pretty close to

00:21:42.330 --> 00:21:44.849
the same pattern but if we look at the

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values we can see that in the bottom

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left-hand corner with the driver he's

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shifted nine inches towards the target

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with the pitching wedge he's only

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shifted six point three inches towards

00:21:56.849 --> 00:21:58.049
the target so about a three inch

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difference between wears up his lower

00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:03.950
body was compared to the start position

00:22:03.950 --> 00:22:06.809
so now what we'll see by looking at his

00:22:06.809 --> 00:22:08.940
upper body we can see that the upper

00:22:08.940 --> 00:22:11.220
body graphs tend to have a more

00:22:11.220 --> 00:22:14.009
consistent pattern so we only had a

00:22:14.009 --> 00:22:16.529
shift of a difference of about point

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eight inches so the difference between

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his lower body and his upper body still

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:25.470
increased about two inches based on the

00:22:25.470 --> 00:22:27.330
difference between the driver and the

00:22:27.330 --> 00:22:30.179
iron but he did it more by increasing

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the lower body not by moving the upper

00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:34.619
body back and that two inch the the

00:22:34.619 --> 00:22:37.440
average in the database was about 2.1

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inches of additional shift so now here's

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a the smallest subset was more of the

00:22:46.289 --> 00:22:48.509
adjuster of both so neither of them is

00:22:48.509 --> 00:22:51.960
going to stay the same they're gonna

00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:55.049
change kind of different amounts in

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order to create that two inch difference

00:22:56.669 --> 00:22:59.009
between the upper body or the two inch

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greater difference between the upper

00:23:00.450 --> 00:23:02.159
body and the lower body for their own

00:23:02.159 --> 00:23:06.869
pattern so here we've got golfer going

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six point four inches with the driver

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and then five point eight inches with

00:23:11.009 --> 00:23:14.279
the iron and then with the upper body we

00:23:14.279 --> 00:23:17.580
can see a similar looking pattern but

00:23:17.580 --> 00:23:21.239
his upper body moves about 0.6 inches

00:23:21.239 --> 00:23:23.999
closer to the target with the iron than

00:23:23.999 --> 00:23:25.769
it did with the driver so he had a

00:23:25.769 --> 00:23:27.299
little bit of shift from lower body and

00:23:27.299 --> 00:23:28.409
a little bit of shift from the upper

00:23:28.409 --> 00:23:30.779
body and that combo gives him the access

00:23:30.779 --> 00:23:32.830
tilt that he's looking for

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in general there's a pretty big

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difference in the pattern when we

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compare the two ends of the spectrum

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when we looking at this axis tool or

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we're looking at this way those irons

00:23:46.250 --> 00:23:49.730
there tend to be more stacked so a you

00:23:49.730 --> 00:23:51.320
know just a couple inch difference

00:23:51.320 --> 00:23:52.730
whether it's two two four or something

00:23:52.730 --> 00:23:55.190
like that difference between the upper

00:23:55.190 --> 00:23:57.140
body and the lower body but with the

00:23:57.140 --> 00:23:58.880
driver you'll see a much greater

00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:00.710
difference especially if you look at the

00:24:00.710 --> 00:24:04.070
maximum difference such as at the end of

00:24:04.070 --> 00:24:06.340
their release it can be somewhere in the

00:24:06.340 --> 00:24:08.900
five six even up to eight inch

00:24:08.900 --> 00:24:10.640
difference between the upper body and

00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.710
the lower body so if your upper body is

00:24:12.710 --> 00:24:14.600
directly on top of your lower body

00:24:14.600 --> 00:24:16.670
you're probably going to struggle with

00:24:16.670 --> 00:24:21.470
the driver so what about amateurs if we

00:24:21.470 --> 00:24:23.870
look at them we're gonna tend to see a

00:24:23.870 --> 00:24:26.090
little bit of change right similar to

00:24:26.090 --> 00:24:27.470
what we saw with the kinematic sequence

00:24:27.470 --> 00:24:32.510
so here's a amateur golfer whose wedge

00:24:32.510 --> 00:24:35.210
swing so the the driver swing he had an

00:24:35.210 --> 00:24:37.490
extra inch of shift towards the target

00:24:37.490 --> 00:24:40.220
so it went four point eight to three

00:24:40.220 --> 00:24:42.380
point eight but we can see overall the

00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:44.870
patterns kind of about the same so

00:24:44.870 --> 00:24:47.720
that'd be fine it we're expecting to see

00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:49.850
a little bit more shift away from the

00:24:49.850 --> 00:24:53.330
target with the with the iron than we do

00:24:53.330 --> 00:24:56.090
with the driver and we can see that

00:24:56.090 --> 00:24:58.930
there's a little bit of a shift but

00:24:58.930 --> 00:25:01.610
again these the two are also very close

00:25:01.610 --> 00:25:04.520
four inch shift with the driver so we

00:25:04.520 --> 00:25:06.110
were expecting to see that actually be

00:25:06.110 --> 00:25:08.900
less than the wedge he'd shifted more

00:25:08.900 --> 00:25:10.640
than the wedge so the actual difference

00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:12.860
between the axis tilt stayed about the

00:25:12.860 --> 00:25:14.900
same because he he gained some with the

00:25:14.900 --> 00:25:16.520
pelvis but then he lost some based on

00:25:16.520 --> 00:25:18.670
the pelvis and thorax

00:25:18.670 --> 00:25:21.440
so both shifted but the difference was

00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.840
pretty much the same on that case now

00:25:23.840 --> 00:25:27.890
we've got another golfer who we can see

00:25:27.890 --> 00:25:31.160
has a about a one inch difference

00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:33.920
between where the pelvis is and then if

00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.500
we jump to the lower body this is the

00:25:36.500 --> 00:25:39.890
driver and then this is the wedge we can

00:25:39.890 --> 00:25:42.260
see 1.5 inch difference but the driver

00:25:42.260 --> 00:25:43.450
is actually more

00:25:43.450 --> 00:25:46.960
head or closer to the target than the

00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:50.169
wedge so he negates what he gains with

00:25:50.169 --> 00:25:51.909
the pelvis again it ends up being about

00:25:51.909 --> 00:25:54.159
the same relationship and that's very

00:25:54.159 --> 00:25:55.539
consistent pattern that you'll see with

00:25:55.539 --> 00:25:57.429
kind of the mid handicap level where

00:25:57.429 --> 00:25:59.620
whatever that excess tilt relationship

00:25:59.620 --> 00:26:02.080
is with one swing they'll typically have

00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:05.950
that with all of their full swings so

00:26:05.950 --> 00:26:08.590
amateurs frequently retain those similar

00:26:08.590 --> 00:26:10.539
access tilt relationships and that

00:26:10.539 --> 00:26:13.000
typically causes a problem at one end of

00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.360
the spectrum or the other

00:26:15.360 --> 00:26:18.610
back to our hypotheses we know that

00:26:18.610 --> 00:26:20.110
there's some differences but we're

00:26:20.110 --> 00:26:21.700
starting to confirm what a lot of the

00:26:21.700 --> 00:26:23.769
coaches thought the one piece that I

00:26:23.769 --> 00:26:25.269
couldn't really confirm was standing

00:26:25.269 --> 00:26:26.529
further away from the golf ball and

00:26:26.529 --> 00:26:28.059
that's just not measured on the 3d

00:26:28.059 --> 00:26:31.419
system but the good news is pros were or

00:26:31.419 --> 00:26:33.220
coaches were kind of looking in the

00:26:33.220 --> 00:26:36.100
right areas and the the data is

00:26:36.100 --> 00:26:38.529
supporting the difference in the

00:26:38.529 --> 00:26:42.730
patterns of the load versus the cast and

00:26:42.730 --> 00:26:44.799
the more access to it versus less access

00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.380
to so amateurs really just need to learn

00:26:47.380 --> 00:26:50.380
to adjust a few key parameters in order

00:26:50.380 --> 00:26:53.710
to have success throughout the bag now

00:26:53.710 --> 00:26:55.419
let's look at one thing that was not

00:26:55.419 --> 00:26:57.760
mentioned by the coaches but that I

00:26:57.760 --> 00:26:59.769
think is incredibly useful which is

00:26:59.769 --> 00:27:01.870
looking at the amount of supination

00:27:01.870 --> 00:27:05.409
because the what the body does and what

00:27:05.409 --> 00:27:08.350
happens in the load pattern is typically

00:27:08.350 --> 00:27:10.269
going to affect what happens in the

00:27:10.269 --> 00:27:14.590
release and vice versa so what we're

00:27:14.590 --> 00:27:16.240
gonna look at is just one simple

00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:17.559
parameter we're gonna look at the blue

00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:19.539
line the blue line is looking at

00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:23.049
pronation supination when it is negative

00:27:23.049 --> 00:27:25.330
its pronating and when it's positive it

00:27:25.330 --> 00:27:27.940
is supinating so what we'll see here is

00:27:27.940 --> 00:27:30.789
the golfer with the left wrist is going

00:27:30.789 --> 00:27:33.580
to have some pronation and reach a

00:27:33.580 --> 00:27:36.100
maximum value somewhere in mid downswing

00:27:36.100 --> 00:27:39.580
and then supinate during the entire

00:27:39.580 --> 00:27:42.820
release now what's interesting is you'll

00:27:42.820 --> 00:27:46.690
see a similar pattern but the supination

00:27:46.690 --> 00:27:51.279
value will tend to be increased on the

00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:52.860
driver swing so

00:27:52.860 --> 00:27:55.049
gonna get into more of a supinated

00:27:55.049 --> 00:27:57.960
position by the end of the release when

00:27:57.960 --> 00:28:00.900
he gets up here compared to what he does

00:28:00.900 --> 00:28:05.130
with the wedge so here's another example

00:28:05.130 --> 00:28:08.070
we can look at the actual numbers so

00:28:08.070 --> 00:28:10.679
somewhere down here you know whether

00:28:10.679 --> 00:28:14.400
that's 60 just below 56 we can see gets

00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.580
close to 70 degrees of supination by the

00:28:17.580 --> 00:28:21.059
end of their release now if we look at

00:28:21.059 --> 00:28:24.179
the wedge swing we'll see a little bit

00:28:24.179 --> 00:28:26.880
less or pretty close to the same amount

00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:29.370
of pronation during the downswing but

00:28:29.370 --> 00:28:30.540
we'll see

00:28:30.540 --> 00:28:33.600
significantly less supination on the way

00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:37.380
through one of the interesting ones that

00:28:37.380 --> 00:28:40.350
I saw looking at the amateurs was this

00:28:40.350 --> 00:28:42.960
golfer who actually had more supination

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.059
with his wedge swing than he does with

00:28:45.059 --> 00:28:47.070
it with the driver swing this is also

00:28:47.070 --> 00:28:49.169
the golfer who tended to have more of a

00:28:49.169 --> 00:28:51.960
cast pattern with the driver than he had

00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.590
with the with the wedge so what you'll

00:28:55.590 --> 00:28:58.169
see is the more that you load those

00:28:58.169 --> 00:29:01.910
risks by using good sequencing good

00:29:01.910 --> 00:29:04.530
proximal to distal loading patterns

00:29:04.530 --> 00:29:06.660
you'll tend to see more of this

00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:09.330
supination value increase with the

00:29:09.330 --> 00:29:13.320
release so this golfer gets close to 80

00:29:13.320 --> 00:29:15.660
degrees supination on the way through

00:29:15.660 --> 00:29:18.450
with a driver close to 60 degrees and

00:29:18.450 --> 00:29:22.740
what you'll this relates to a lot of the

00:29:22.740 --> 00:29:25.799
arm tension that amateurs describe when

00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:27.540
they feel like they're bracing or

00:29:27.540 --> 00:29:30.020
they're squeezing their forearms to help

00:29:30.020 --> 00:29:32.100
control the clubface on the way through

00:29:32.100 --> 00:29:33.600
or to start bending their arms like

00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:34.679
they're getting into a chicken wing

00:29:34.679 --> 00:29:38.340
pattern those will tend to diminish the

00:29:38.340 --> 00:29:40.940
amount of supination on the way through

00:29:40.940 --> 00:29:43.740
so that was just a quick little point

00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:48.390
that I think gets overlooked when

00:29:48.390 --> 00:29:49.799
talking about the differences between

00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:51.510
the iron and the driver but there are

00:29:51.510 --> 00:29:55.220
definitely some differences between the

00:29:55.220 --> 00:29:57.780
amount of supination in the driver and

00:29:57.780 --> 00:29:59.940
the iron swing if it's going to look the

00:29:59.940 --> 00:30:03.620
same on video I'll show you what I mean

00:30:03.620 --> 00:30:07.110
so we're gonna get into some case

00:30:07.110 --> 00:30:09.059
studies we're going to look at some 2d

00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:11.120
examples so that you'll be able to

00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:13.679
relate what you're seeing on these

00:30:13.679 --> 00:30:17.150
graphs to what actually happens with

00:30:17.150 --> 00:30:20.820
with you know 2d video with the way most

00:30:20.820 --> 00:30:23.190
of us are used to looking at it so the

00:30:23.190 --> 00:30:25.080
coaching Keys would be looking at the

00:30:25.080 --> 00:30:27.570
axis tilt the power source the release

00:30:27.570 --> 00:30:30.120
style and something that I don't have

00:30:30.120 --> 00:30:32.190
data for but has worked very well for me

00:30:32.190 --> 00:30:33.660
which is looking at Club height to

00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:37.020
ground now in this presentation we're

00:30:37.020 --> 00:30:39.600
gonna look at a couple different key

00:30:39.600 --> 00:30:42.570
concepts so the fall away from the

00:30:42.570 --> 00:30:45.210
target or the access tilt movement when

00:30:45.210 --> 00:30:47.610
we look at the drivers case study and

00:30:47.610 --> 00:30:49.440
with the iron we're going to look at a

00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:53.010
little bit of low point training so here

00:30:53.010 --> 00:30:56.550
is a single lesson a before and after

00:30:56.550 --> 00:30:59.550
this is looking at a case study looking

00:30:59.550 --> 00:31:04.410
at the amount of tilt so this golfer we

00:31:04.410 --> 00:31:06.660
we've been working together for a few

00:31:06.660 --> 00:31:08.309
lessons already mostly working on the

00:31:08.309 --> 00:31:12.030
release and I'll show you what we did

00:31:12.030 --> 00:31:14.040
during this lesson to get the changes to

00:31:14.040 --> 00:31:16.290
go from this over here on the Left this

00:31:16.290 --> 00:31:18.960
amount of extension to this over here on

00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:24.350
the right so here's the initial swing

00:31:24.350 --> 00:31:28.170
this was one of his swings during warmup

00:31:28.170 --> 00:31:30.300
and you can see those arms bending on

00:31:30.300 --> 00:31:33.900
the way through now here is during

00:31:33.900 --> 00:31:34.679
warmup

00:31:34.679 --> 00:31:37.410
with an iron and he described having

00:31:37.410 --> 00:31:39.450
some good success with his iron

00:31:39.450 --> 00:31:41.940
consistency and most the pros who I

00:31:41.940 --> 00:31:43.770
showed this to at the World Golf Fitness

00:31:43.770 --> 00:31:46.290
on it agreed that this looks better he's

00:31:46.290 --> 00:31:48.480
got more arm extension you know there's

00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.220
still a little bit of maybe a scuba

00:31:50.220 --> 00:31:52.860
shattered but he's got much better arm

00:31:52.860 --> 00:31:54.510
extension on the way through it looks

00:31:54.510 --> 00:31:56.160
like he's doing something different with

00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.890
the driver than the iron but now from

00:31:58.890 --> 00:32:00.690
looking at the data perhaps you'll

00:32:00.690 --> 00:32:02.040
understand that he's actually doing

00:32:02.040 --> 00:32:05.490
closer to the same thing with the driver

00:32:05.490 --> 00:32:07.470
and the iron and that's why it looks

00:32:07.470 --> 00:32:10.559
different so I wanted him to understand

00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:12.169
the difference in the

00:32:12.169 --> 00:32:14.750
relationship of the axis tilt so I gave

00:32:14.750 --> 00:32:17.330
him a drill that we have on the site to

00:32:17.330 --> 00:32:19.820
help him feel pushing into that front

00:32:19.820 --> 00:32:20.169
leg

00:32:20.169 --> 00:32:23.440
Waldo's arms extend past his body and

00:32:23.440 --> 00:32:26.450
making sure that his upper body fell

00:32:26.450 --> 00:32:28.039
away from the target a little bit

00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.649
helping to create that improved access

00:32:30.649 --> 00:32:33.260
tilt so we discussed it and he did this

00:32:33.260 --> 00:32:35.450
drill took about three minutes in

00:32:35.450 --> 00:32:38.090
between that first swing and what you're

00:32:38.090 --> 00:32:40.820
going to see right here so this was the

00:32:40.820 --> 00:32:43.190
very next wing after doing his drill and

00:32:43.190 --> 00:32:46.100
understanding the concept better and he

00:32:46.100 --> 00:32:48.830
was able to increase his launch angle

00:32:48.830 --> 00:32:50.690
and pick up about thirty yards but the

00:32:50.690 --> 00:32:53.510
big thing was he was able to control his

00:32:53.510 --> 00:32:56.269
uh his a trajectory in the amount of

00:32:56.269 --> 00:32:58.730
curve he was no longer afraid of the

00:32:58.730 --> 00:33:02.510
smother hook after practicing it for the

00:33:02.510 --> 00:33:09.590
rest of the session okay so he had been

00:33:09.590 --> 00:33:11.149
working on the supination and we added

00:33:11.149 --> 00:33:12.500
the access tilt and the difference

00:33:12.500 --> 00:33:16.279
between the two now his iron swing in

00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.529
his driver swing the release looks very

00:33:18.529 --> 00:33:21.769
similar but the important thing is it

00:33:21.769 --> 00:33:23.600
looks similar because he's now doing

00:33:23.600 --> 00:33:25.909
different things if you were to now use

00:33:25.909 --> 00:33:27.559
some of this information that you've

00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:30.440
been presented with take a look at the

00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:32.510
location of his upper body compared to

00:33:32.510 --> 00:33:34.190
either the golf ball or compared to the

00:33:34.190 --> 00:33:35.360
pelvis and you can see that they're

00:33:35.360 --> 00:33:37.070
pretty much on top of each other

00:33:37.070 --> 00:33:40.399
just a slight tilt away now over here

00:33:40.399 --> 00:33:43.130
with the driver we can or with the after

00:33:43.130 --> 00:33:44.539
version we can see that that right

00:33:44.539 --> 00:33:46.669
shoulder is well behind the golf ball

00:33:46.669 --> 00:33:48.919
the chest is behind kind of his right

00:33:48.919 --> 00:33:51.320
hip he's got a lot more access to which

00:33:51.320 --> 00:33:53.389
helps produce more of this flat bottom

00:33:53.389 --> 00:33:55.669
to the swing now we have a golfer

00:33:55.669 --> 00:33:57.799
demonstrating some low point control so

00:33:57.799 --> 00:34:00.679
this golfer was struggling more with

00:34:00.679 --> 00:34:02.990
iron consistency was driving the ball

00:34:02.990 --> 00:34:07.490
great so what you'll see here I'll let

00:34:07.490 --> 00:34:10.550
this play a couple times you'll see the

00:34:10.550 --> 00:34:14.560
club working up quickly after impact

00:34:14.560 --> 00:34:18.050
now I had him in slow motion

00:34:18.050 --> 00:34:20.240
show me the release that he was training

00:34:20.240 --> 00:34:23.119
and you can see that the low points

00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.950
pretty much in the middle of his stance

00:34:24.950 --> 00:34:29.180
and then starting to work up very

00:34:29.180 --> 00:34:31.430
quickly right through impact and you can

00:34:31.430 --> 00:34:35.840
also see that the clubface is tending to

00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.720
stay open we we've addressed all those

00:34:38.720 --> 00:34:42.620
issues with a cluster of drills and I'll

00:34:42.620 --> 00:34:44.600
show you here in a second now if you're

00:34:44.600 --> 00:34:46.580
not used to seeing that drill of just

00:34:46.580 --> 00:34:48.080
like a slow-motion release here's a

00:34:48.080 --> 00:34:51.070
student who has more of a iron base wing

00:34:51.070 --> 00:34:54.700
demonstrating end of the same thing and

00:34:54.700 --> 00:34:57.680
what you'll were doing the same drill I

00:34:57.680 --> 00:34:59.750
should say and what you'll see is that

00:34:59.750 --> 00:35:02.840
his tendency is to have the club working

00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:05.900
much more high to low where the golfer

00:35:05.900 --> 00:35:07.940
previously was having much more low to

00:35:07.940 --> 00:35:09.520
high

00:35:09.520 --> 00:35:13.370
so now after doing a nine a drill called

00:35:13.370 --> 00:35:14.870
nine to low point that we use on the

00:35:14.870 --> 00:35:17.960
site he was working on getting without

00:35:17.960 --> 00:35:19.430
letting his upper body lunge that's why

00:35:19.430 --> 00:35:21.080
he had to stick here he was working on

00:35:21.080 --> 00:35:23.450
getting the the club to bottom out more

00:35:23.450 --> 00:35:26.150
in front of the golf ball so now what

00:35:26.150 --> 00:35:28.730
you'll tend to see is a little bit more

00:35:28.730 --> 00:35:30.560
neutral pattern where the club is coming

00:35:30.560 --> 00:35:32.720
down through contact and then working up

00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:35.330
on the way through but you'll see that

00:35:35.330 --> 00:35:37.790
after impact the club is lower to the

00:35:37.790 --> 00:35:40.010
ground with that arm extension it's less

00:35:40.010 --> 00:35:44.480
of a club working up pattern so here

00:35:44.480 --> 00:35:49.160
we've got both versions we'll try to get

00:35:49.160 --> 00:35:53.390
them about even after impact you can see

00:35:53.390 --> 00:35:55.460
this is a little bit more of that driver

00:35:55.460 --> 00:35:57.020
base movement where the club is coming

00:35:57.020 --> 00:35:59.000
up pretty quickly this is more of the

00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:00.530
iron based movement where he's got a

00:36:00.530 --> 00:36:02.090
little bit better access tilt and that

00:36:02.090 --> 00:36:05.480
Club working more down so it doesn't

00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:08.360
have to look perfectly but if you make

00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:10.520
some smart adjustments to your pattern

00:36:10.520 --> 00:36:13.490
you can make progress with either the

00:36:13.490 --> 00:36:16.550
iron or the driver the next goal is then

00:36:16.550 --> 00:36:20.000
to train going back and forth between

00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.190
those two shots so that you have a

00:36:22.190 --> 00:36:24.290
better success rate of being able to

00:36:24.290 --> 00:36:26.270
pull it off on the course if you

00:36:26.270 --> 00:36:28.700
struggle with one area the other I would

00:36:28.700 --> 00:36:31.400
tend to suggest with the driver you

00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.560
would want to focus on access tilt the

00:36:33.560 --> 00:36:35.510
club path as well as the face to path

00:36:35.510 --> 00:36:36.700
relationship

00:36:36.700 --> 00:36:39.490
I use a number of drills on the website

00:36:39.490 --> 00:36:41.320
frequently to help people with these

00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.900
concepts mostly revolving around how the

00:36:43.900 --> 00:36:45.490
lower body works since it's more of a

00:36:45.490 --> 00:36:47.589
total body activity and how to create

00:36:47.589 --> 00:36:50.530
the proper axis tilt as well as how to

00:36:50.530 --> 00:36:52.270
release the club with a little bit more

00:36:52.270 --> 00:36:54.070
supination to support more of that

00:36:54.070 --> 00:36:56.890
loading pattern with iron consistency

00:36:56.890 --> 00:36:58.930
I'm typically working on more low point

00:36:58.930 --> 00:37:01.270
control or face to target relationship

00:37:01.270 --> 00:37:04.450
so things such as the open right hand or

00:37:04.450 --> 00:37:06.430
getting a little bit more access to it

00:37:06.430 --> 00:37:07.839
and learning where the upper body should

00:37:07.839 --> 00:37:10.390
be in space and potentially tempo drills

00:37:10.390 --> 00:37:11.770
work really well for this particular

00:37:11.770 --> 00:37:14.680
problem but one of the goals Sanders I

00:37:14.680 --> 00:37:16.450
go for with low point control is the arm

00:37:16.450 --> 00:37:18.849
extension timing and direction which I

00:37:18.849 --> 00:37:20.260
have a number of different videos to

00:37:20.260 --> 00:37:22.390
help support so if you enjoyed this

00:37:22.390 --> 00:37:24.040
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00:37:24.040 --> 00:37:26.530
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00:37:26.530 --> 00:37:28.300
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are interested head over to golf smart

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academy.com that's my site where I kind

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of share all the thoughts of the what I

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learned from doing classes and what I

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come up with when working with my

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students and what I learned from other

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instructors so it's kind of my my

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Dropbox for all the different swing

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ideas to help amateur golfers and those

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do-it-yourself style golfers as well as

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golf coaches I've got a upcoming book

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called the stock tour swing which should

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be around either by the end of the year

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or early in 2017 and I'm working on a

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coaches certification but if you have

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any questions about anything presented

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in this certificate or in this webinar

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or anything else please don't hesitate

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to contact me Tylar golf smart academy

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or you could submit a question through

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the site thank you for taking a look at

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my presentation from the World Golf

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Fitness summit 2016 on driver vs. iron

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differences